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Speaker 1: Everybody Scott Patterson I Am all In Podcast one on
Speaker 1: one interview with Ricky Lindholm. Ricky played the role of
Speaker 1: Juliet for four episodes two thousand and five two thousand
Speaker 1: and six. She also appeared in season three as a
Speaker 1: student at Stars Hollow Higher. First appearance Seam five, episode fifteen,
Speaker 1: Jews and Chinese Food. Last appearance Season six, episode nineteen,
Speaker 1: I Get a sidekick out of You. Her character, Julietta
Speaker 1: is friends with Rosemary and the Girls, hang out Life
Speaker 1: and Death Brigade crowd, and sometimes spend time just with
Speaker 1: Finn Colin and Logan hunts Burger. A little bit about
Speaker 1: Ricky very interesting resume. She's an American actress, comedian, writer, producer,
Speaker 1: voice talent and musician. She is also known as a
Speaker 1: singer and songwriter in the comedy folk duo Garfunkel and Oats.
Speaker 1: After making her television debut in two thousand and two
Speaker 1: with minor roles in the series Titus Buffy the Butt
Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer, she guest starred on Gilmore Girls, also the
Speaker 1: cbas CBS sitcom The Big Bang Theory in the HBO
Speaker 1: series and Lighton. She co created and starred in the
Speaker 1: Comedy Central period sitcom Another Period. She voiced a recurring
Speaker 1: role of Kimberly Harris and the Fox animated sitcom series Duncanville,
Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty two, she starred as doctor Valerie
Speaker 1: Kinbot the Netflix comedy horror series Wednesday. Lindo made her
Speaker 1: feature film debut in two thousand and four film Million
Speaker 1: Dollar Baby as Mardelle Fitzgerald, and went on to star
Speaker 1: in the comedy horror films such as Hell Baby and
Speaker 1: the Wolf of snow Hollow. She also had supporting roles
Speaker 1: in the films My Best Friend's Girl, Much Ado About Nothing,
Speaker 1: the Lego Batman movie Knives Out, King Tweety They Listen.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, she formed garfunkl and Oes with
Speaker 1: actress Kate mccouchie. She wrote and produced and starred in
Speaker 1: an epiphanist television series on IFC, which aired for one
Speaker 1: season in twenty fourteen, and Let's Bring In Ricky. Thanks
Speaker 1: for being on. We're excited to have Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Were, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Could you just start in your career.
Speaker 3: Well the same way I got my role on Gilmore Girls,
Speaker 3: which was casting director workshops. Do you remember those? I
Speaker 3: never did it out lot.
Speaker 1: I never did those.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm from a town of one thousand people, so
Speaker 3: I knew truly nobody. I didn't know a dentist here.
Speaker 3: I knew nobody, and so the only way I could
Speaker 3: meet anyone was by doing these workshops. Which it really
Speaker 3: makes me sad that they're not around anymore, because I
Speaker 3: don't know how people can get in the door.
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's interesting. I don't know either. How do they
Speaker 1: do it now?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: No meetings, no casting sessions, no nothing, nothing.
Speaker 3: But I did a casting director workshop with one of
Speaker 3: the associate casting directors and they were talking about how
Speaker 3: to get a role on Gilmore Girls, and they said,
Speaker 3: you just have to talk really fast, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I already do that. I talk so fast. Everyone always
Speaker 3: tells me to slow down. So I was like, ooh,
Speaker 3: this might work for me. And then he brought me
Speaker 3: in and I played I think it was like student
Speaker 3: number three or something. Years years before I played Juliette.
Speaker 3: I was like a different I had like two lines.
Speaker 3: And then three or four years later they called me again,
Speaker 3: and I had another audition for a different character, and
Speaker 3: I was like, do they know I was already on? Well,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to mention it. So I came back
Speaker 3: talked really fast.
Speaker 1: Right, So you appeared in season three as a girl
Speaker 1: in a classroom. Then season five you come in as Juliet,
Speaker 1: one of Logan's friends. Yes, so did you have to
Speaker 1: audition for and did they bring you back in and
Speaker 1: give you that character?
Speaker 3: She just got another audition. Yeah, I auditioned again. So
Speaker 3: I auditioned for like the student. I was like sort
Speaker 3: of bullying LAURALI I'm like, didn't you get pregnant as
Speaker 3: a teenager or something? And then they thought of me
Speaker 3: again and brought me back as just a different person.
Speaker 3: And I was really grateful because I've never played two
Speaker 3: characters on one show before.
Speaker 1: Had you been a fan of the show before you
Speaker 1: came on.
Speaker 3: I'd never seen it before I did that workshop, and
Speaker 3: then once I did that, I was like, I feel
Speaker 3: like I could be on this show. And then I
Speaker 3: watched it and I was like, oh, I love this show, right,
Speaker 3: And then I was like, I really hope I'm on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: So when when we first when we're first introduced to
Speaker 1: Juliet as the friend who won't eat because she doesn't
Speaker 1: want to gain weight, which is that was That was
Speaker 1: a really funny scene. That wasn't Jews and Chinese food,
Speaker 1: very very funny. What did you think when you got
Speaker 1: the script and you saw the part and you had
Speaker 1: to play in this episode?
Speaker 3: This is going to sound awful. I thought I wasn't
Speaker 3: going to get it because I was too large. That's
Speaker 3: where my mind was. I was like, I'm not thin
Speaker 3: enough to play someone who won't eat. I just thought
Speaker 3: there's so many thinner actresses that I went that I
Speaker 3: wouldn't get it. And I was like, oh, okay, I
Speaker 3: guess I'm wrong. I just sort of put that own
Speaker 3: that barrier in my own head. I don't think that
Speaker 3: I'm large, but I just was like looking around the room,
Speaker 3: I guess and was like, I don't know that this
Speaker 3: is mine. But I thought it was very funny and
Speaker 3: I was excited that I got it right.
Speaker 1: So what do you remember from that dinner scene with
Speaker 1: Matt Alexis and the rest of the crew from the
Speaker 1: Life and Death Brigade. Did it take a long time
Speaker 1: to shoot those dinner table scenes?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: So long you usually take forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was stunned. I remember that I went last.
Speaker 3: I remember that I went last, and I think by
Speaker 3: the time I went, Alexis had to like go to
Speaker 3: get like she'd been there like the whole time, and
Speaker 3: then she had to go get like ready for the
Speaker 3: next scene or something. So I remember acting toward an
Speaker 3: X when it was all the all the people, and
Speaker 3: then she was like a taped X, right, she like
Speaker 3: had to leave for something. Wasn't like she's like, I
Speaker 3: won't do my line. She wasn't like that, but.
Speaker 1: She had to go green Ex on a stanchion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've acted with Greenex's on stanchion polls before. Yes, some
Speaker 1: of my best scene partners.
Speaker 3: But I know, right, sometimes they're better than the scene
Speaker 3: partners you get, not on Gore Girls, but no, But
Speaker 3: I remember just like loving all those people. It was
Speaker 3: so fun. I was just like I was just thrilled
Speaker 3: to be there. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're really enjoying the Light Life and Death Brigade.
Speaker 1: We really enjoy all those guys, and really really enjoying
Speaker 1: Matt Zugrie and what he did with Logan and.
Speaker 3: Gosh He's good, isn't he he is.
Speaker 1: He's so smooth.
Speaker 3: God, he's such a good actor. He makes it seem
Speaker 3: very effortless. And I'm like, oh, he is crushing this scene.
Speaker 1: He's just man, he's so smooth at the door when
Speaker 1: he came to her door, and just just all these
Speaker 1: lines just flying out of them so easily, and it's
Speaker 1: just also thrown away. It's just great.
Speaker 3: I love it. It's so good.
Speaker 1: Is any funny?
Speaker 3: Oh God, he's funny. I loved like hanging. We actually
Speaker 3: all hung out in real life a little bit. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: because you know, we were all like in our twenties
Speaker 3: with you know, not in relationships and with nothing to do,
Speaker 3: so we're like, let's go drink somewhere or whatever. So yeah,
Speaker 3: we hung out like a handful of times. And they
Speaker 3: all came to see me in a weird play that
Speaker 3: I did in Culver City.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they supported you, that's really yeah, Yeah they were.
Speaker 3: And then Alexis and I actually made a short film together.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, it was Gosh, when was it?
Speaker 3: I think it was No, it was right, And I
Speaker 3: think it was before the writers the two thousand eight
Speaker 3: writers strikes me. It was like two thousand and six
Speaker 3: or seven or something around there. It was when it
Speaker 3: was very hard to make sure. Now people can make
Speaker 3: them on their phones, but it was very hard then.
Speaker 3: But we did it.
Speaker 1: And what was the name of that little film.
Speaker 3: It was called Life Is Short?
Speaker 1: Life Is Short?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was with me Alexis and Seth Carlin
Speaker 3: and Sam Levine.
Speaker 1: And can can we see it? Is it? Is it
Speaker 1: out anywhere? Is it on DVD? Is it?
Speaker 3: You know? It was It's just a short film and
Speaker 3: I put it on YouTube, but there was just all
Speaker 3: this unlicensed music, so it immediately got taken down. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't, I mean it was I don't. I didn't know,
Speaker 3: you know, I wasn't trying to. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: didn't have I didn't know that. You couldn't use that stuff.
Speaker 1: You got to pay the rolling stuffs.
Speaker 3: Y can't pay Randy Duman.
Speaker 1: You got to pay the estate.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're expensive, that's the thing, all right. So you
Speaker 1: have Oh did you know your character was coming back
Speaker 1: in season six?
Speaker 3: They tell you no, No, I had no idea. That
Speaker 3: had not happened to me before. So yeah, I was
Speaker 3: I was super excited that I got to keep doing it.
Speaker 3: It was just fun. It was just a good vibe
Speaker 3: and everyone was kind of in the same place in
Speaker 3: life and it was just fun.
Speaker 1: Right right. So you've been in so many iconic shows.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite character that you've got to play?
Speaker 3: I think my favorite character was my character on Pushing Daisy's.
Speaker 3: I just did one episode of Pushing day Z's. I
Speaker 3: think it was like the second episode, and I got
Speaker 3: to play this like bleemiccar salesman, and that doesn't sell
Speaker 3: it very well, but it was very fun. I don't
Speaker 3: know what it was. I was just like I just
Speaker 3: had to play it, and I was just very excited
Speaker 3: about it. So maybe that mm hmm, but I guess
Speaker 3: it could change depending on the day. What's your favorite
Speaker 3: character you've ever played? Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, I think the one I'm playing now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a new series called Sullivan's Crossing.
Speaker 3: Oh nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's just you know, he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot going on in his life.
Speaker 3: And is it a comedy or drama?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, it's it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a rom drama.
Speaker 3: Oh nice.
Speaker 1: Ye. Part of them I'm part of the drama.
Speaker 3: I'm part of the drama.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm a strange from my daughter and
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of issues and pass, there's a pass,
Speaker 1: there's a whole thing which comes up. So it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's really my favorite so far. And of course
Speaker 1: Luke because it was well, of course, because it's you know,
Speaker 1: that's Luke. Oh.
Speaker 3: I know I should have said Juliet, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Would you like to redo on that? Hey, who's who's
Speaker 1: your favorite character.
Speaker 3: That you Julie or student number two?
Speaker 1: On these amazing characters, Nothing can even come close ever
Speaker 1: in the history of the universe as long as we'd
Speaker 1: be acting, millennium would be Thank you for clearing that up.
Speaker 1: So you play a therapist in a very popular Netflix
Speaker 1: show Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was a dream job.
Speaker 1: How did you get that part? It was? Did I
Speaker 1: sound shocked? I shouldn't sound shocked. How did you get
Speaker 1: that part? Yeah?
Speaker 3: See, then it shocked if he said how did you
Speaker 3: get why did they cast you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I got that part because it was during the pandemic
Speaker 3: and everyone's you know, just taping from home and I
Speaker 3: didn't know exact I was trying to I read this
Speaker 3: just like the couple scenes, and I couldn't quite get
Speaker 3: the tone. I was like, what is I was like,
Speaker 3: is it a comedy as a drama? And I packed
Speaker 3: to my manager and she's like, oh, it's actually Wednesday
Speaker 3: Atoms because in the script I think the character was
Speaker 3: called Willa or something. And then I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: got it, got it. And so I was like, what
Speaker 3: what would drive Wednesday Adams the most nuts? I was like,
Speaker 3: what would she hate the most? And so I was
Speaker 3: like I wore like pearls and white and my hair
Speaker 3: like curly, and I was like, she'd hate this, and
Speaker 3: so I just had that in my mind, and I
Speaker 3: sent a tape and then didn't hear anything for like
Speaker 3: four months or something, and then I was like, you know,
Speaker 3: you forget about it. And then my agent said, well,
Speaker 3: you're in the mix for the thing, and I thought
Speaker 3: I was going to test or something, and then I
Speaker 3: just got an email that said oh Netflix approved your tape,
Speaker 3: and I was like oh okay. So I thought, all right,
Speaker 3: well then I'm in the next round or whatever. And
Speaker 3: then my manager a few days later is like, so
Speaker 3: are you ready for Romania and I was like, what's
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And she's like, well, you
Speaker 3: got that part. And I was like, that's how you told.
Speaker 1: Me your agents really need to work on their I
Speaker 1: mean that's like a celebration, you know.
Speaker 3: I was like, I need like a woo.
Speaker 1: Take you to lunch and hey, let's celebrate exactly.
Speaker 3: I guess not during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: But they sent an email saying they approved your tape.
Speaker 1: And then she was like, oh my got a job.
Speaker 3: She was kind of like, oh that is no. She
Speaker 3: just laughed when I pointed that out. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that isn't very She's like, well, it's exciting. And then
Speaker 3: I had to move to Romania like a week later,
Speaker 3: and I moved for seven months.
Speaker 1: What yeah, so what is a gig?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was the best?
Speaker 1: So what what is Romania like it?
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, so it's beautiful. Everyone's very nice, but
Speaker 3: it's also very different. Like I remember my first day
Speaker 3: on set, I just went in to get a COVID
Speaker 3: test and there was like a little COVID tent and
Speaker 3: the nurse was smoking a cigarette inside the tent and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, got and she handed the cigarette
Speaker 3: to the PA did my swab and then put the
Speaker 3: cigarette back in her mouth, and I'm like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: in a different place. This is like a slightly different culture.
Speaker 3: But it ended up being just an amazing experience, and
Speaker 3: the cast got really close, and I got to travel
Speaker 3: all over Europe. Because I basically had one scene in
Speaker 3: episode only in the therapy office. I wasn't in any
Speaker 3: special effects or anything, so I just got to leave
Speaker 3: and go everywhere. And I've never been to Europe without
Speaker 3: jet lag, you know where. It was like a forty
Speaker 3: five minute flight to Greece.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, so you so you went where? Tell
Speaker 1: me where you went? Where you want to Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I went all over Greece. I went to Sweden, I
Speaker 3: went to Paris, I went to Italy. I went to
Speaker 3: the Arctic Circle like in Finland.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I just went everywhere Arctic Circle, yes, yeah, I
Speaker 3: went like I saw the Northern Lights, I went dog sledding,
Speaker 3: I camped out in this igloot. No. I was on
Speaker 3: my like eat, pray Love. I was like, I will
Speaker 3: never be I have this much free time in Europe
Speaker 3: where I am like just so close to everything. And
Speaker 3: I was like I need to take advantage of it,
Speaker 3: and so I just I And I'd also been sitting
Speaker 3: in my apartment for a year because of COVID like
Speaker 3: everyone else. So I was ready to see the world.
Speaker 1: You were ready to party. I get it. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is yes.
Speaker 3: And they had a baby coming when the show was over,
Speaker 3: so I was like, I need to live it up
Speaker 3: before he's here, because I knew that my life would become,
Speaker 3: you know, more sedentary once the baby came.
Speaker 1: So I was like I need to Oh you you
Speaker 1: personally were having it. Oh okay.
Speaker 3: So I was like I got to see everything I can.
Speaker 1: But now you have all these grapes. You have a
Speaker 1: son or a daughter.
Speaker 3: A son?
Speaker 1: Oh how old is he? Now?
Speaker 3: He's sixteen months?
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I have a nine year old and
Speaker 1: there's just nothing you do daughter, his son, nothing, there's
Speaker 1: isn't it the best? Every day is magic? It's magic.
Speaker 3: I totally agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 3: People warn you, They're like, oh, bubb And then I
Speaker 3: was like this is great, Like yeah, it's hard, but like, honestly,
Speaker 3: so is being on Gilmore Girl's That's right, right, you work,
Speaker 3: you know, fifteen hours a day or so, it's just
Speaker 3: like it's hard, but it's like, yeah, it's incredible. It's
Speaker 3: so worth it.
Speaker 1: If you work as a team and you pick up
Speaker 1: some slack here and there, and you know, it's it's wonderful.
Speaker 1: The whole time is magic. I mean the way they
Speaker 1: grow and little ways every single day and you can
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's so sweet. He's got so much hair.
Speaker 3: It's like like like this huge mop of curly hair.
Speaker 3: He looks like you know, Annie with brown hair.
Speaker 1: It's so cute.
Speaker 3: He's so sweet. So yeah, I'm so in love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, me too. I just you know, the couple
Speaker 1: of times I've had he's such a good kid. He's
Speaker 1: such a good hearted, big hearted kid. And a few
Speaker 1: times that I've had to discipline him, it just crushed me.
Speaker 1: It just killed me. I had to just leave the
Speaker 1: room and break down, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah, but man,
Speaker 1: you know it's like you've got that kid's heart in
Speaker 1: your hand, and oh man, I love being a dad
Speaker 1: more than anything. It's it's you know, that's my favorite role.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it is not a movie, no, it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's insane. It's I I It was the
Speaker 3: best year of my life, hands down, Like, there's what
Speaker 3: compares to that, like the birth of your first child,
Speaker 3: the best job ever traveling Europe. I was like, just
Speaker 3: this is I was just like, while it was happening,
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't believe that this is what
Speaker 3: I get to do. Very fortunate.
Speaker 1: We live in interesting times. Yeah, did you know when
Speaker 1: filming Wednesday that it was going to become as popular
Speaker 1: as it has become.
Speaker 3: No, nobody knew. Nobody knew, no, no, not because it
Speaker 3: was so far removed. Like we were just you know,
Speaker 3: in Bucharest and it was COVID. It was just it
Speaker 3: was just such a it was so far away from
Speaker 3: everything we and we couldn't see the other scenes. So
Speaker 3: because of COVID, the protocols, you know, we'd travel in
Speaker 3: our own little car to the set and it was
Speaker 3: like an hour away and you're in you're you're just
Speaker 3: so quarantined, and then you're back to your hotel that
Speaker 3: I could I never saw the big picture. All I
Speaker 3: saw was my therapy office. I'm like, hope it's good,
Speaker 3: I don't know, and a picture and then I would
Speaker 3: go to Greece, you know, and so I'm like, and
Speaker 3: we all hoped it would be, but we we truly,
Speaker 3: we just couldn't see any of it, so except for
Speaker 3: our own scenes, And it's hard to be objective about
Speaker 3: your own scenes or how they're going or how they
Speaker 3: look great, you know. And it obviously it had you know,
Speaker 3: Jenna's amazing. It had a great script, great directors, like
Speaker 3: the whole thing. It had a lot going for it.
Speaker 3: And the sets that I saw were beautiful, the costumes
Speaker 3: were beautiful. But you just never know.
Speaker 1: But some pr came out a few months ago about
Speaker 1: how her her work schedule is beginning to really wear
Speaker 1: her down and that she didn't There was some speculation
Speaker 1: that maybe she wasn't returning or she was trying to
Speaker 1: get Is any of that true? And have they resolved
Speaker 1: those issues? Is the show still on? Is it still on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh, I highly doubt that's true. I'm sure she's returning.
Speaker 3: That that would surprise me. She loved playing Wednesday. Everyone
Speaker 3: loves Jenna. She was the captain of the ship. She
Speaker 3: was incredible, Like, you cannot find someone in the cast
Speaker 3: who's not obsessed with Jenna. She's so awesome. She's like,
Speaker 3: I can't I can't imagine that being the case. I
Speaker 3: didn't actually hear that. I was like, oh, I'm sure
Speaker 3: she's I'm sure she's exhausted. I mean, right now she's
Speaker 3: filming Beetlejuice and she's doing Scream and you know, she's
Speaker 3: kind of everywhere doing SNL. But wow, I would be
Speaker 3: so so surprised if that's the case. She just loved
Speaker 3: playing that character.
Speaker 1: But I tell you the media, man, they really when
Speaker 1: they get their fangs in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, I didn't even Wow, it's funny. I didn't
Speaker 3: even hear that.
Speaker 1: It was like all these entertainment headlines. Wow, one day.
Speaker 3: This is why I don't think it's true, because the
Speaker 3: cast is like all gossips with each other about everything,
Speaker 3: and no one said anything to me about that because
Speaker 3: people would have been panicked, like, oh, are we not
Speaker 3: doing it again?
Speaker 1: Or so there's definitely a season two as far as
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's going to depend on
Speaker 3: the strike more than anything.
Speaker 1: Well, sure, then we find out tomorrow. I know you're
Speaker 1: going to find out tomorrow what's going on? Yeah, are
Speaker 1: you still on uh Wednesday, are you still on the show.
Speaker 3: I don't know yet because my character my character dies
Speaker 3: in the show, but like, we don't see me get buried.
Speaker 3: We don't see so I don't know what they have
Speaker 3: planned for season two.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about your famous comedy duo, Garfunkel
Speaker 1: and Oats. Where did you get this idea from? This
Speaker 1: is obviously a Simon and Garfunkle hall and all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went to see Hall of Notes at the Hollywood
Speaker 3: Bowl and I was in the very back. I had
Speaker 3: terrible seats, and so you have to look at the
Speaker 3: screen and the camera guy like didn't realize they were
Speaker 3: a duo, so it would just be Haul alone and
Speaker 3: then Oats in the band just like he was only
Speaker 3: in these wides and I'm like, this is just kind
Speaker 3: of funny. He just was the it was just the
Speaker 3: filming of it. He was so second Banana. And then
Speaker 3: you know, I also love Simon and Garfunkle, so we
Speaker 3: just like thought the name was funny and kept and
Speaker 3: then of course we found out, Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 3: found out two years ago that it was a Simpsons joke,
Speaker 3: years before we came up with it, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: everything's a Simpsons joke. It was like it was like
Speaker 3: Nash oh, Scarfunkle and something. Yeah. It was some sort
Speaker 3: of second Banana supergroup. And I'm like, well, well, oh, well.
Speaker 1: So you're a singer songwriter, you play, play guitar.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. We do comedy songs and then we write
Speaker 3: songs for you know, other people. We write songs for
Speaker 3: animated movies and TV shows and things like that. We
Speaker 3: wrote a song for a Big Bang Theory and you
Speaker 3: know and stuff. And yeah, I just love writing songs.
Speaker 3: It's the it's the best I do too.
Speaker 1: I've written a ton of them. Really, I spent I
Speaker 1: used to spend a great deal in my free time
Speaker 1: writing songs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. It's time consuming.
Speaker 1: It's like a whole But but you don't I don't
Speaker 1: notice the time going by when I'm doing it, you know,
Speaker 1: I just don't know. None of my wife says, are
Speaker 1: you coming to dinner? I said, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: I started writing at lunch. Just six hours just went by,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Really, yeah, I get in the.
Speaker 3: Song, I guess I get in the zone a little bit,
Speaker 3: but it's painstaking for me. I don't have an effortless
Speaker 3: ease about songwriting. I'm just like, I like, yeah.
Speaker 1: What are you writing songs for yourself.
Speaker 3: Well, I write songs for the Yes, I write songs
Speaker 3: for our band to perform. We do, and then we
Speaker 3: also write songs for other people, Like we wrote a
Speaker 3: song for the Lego movie. You know we you know.
Speaker 1: So you're so you're actually selling songs to productions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good for Well, it's an interesting it's been
Speaker 3: like a pretty well traveled route. Like a lot of
Speaker 3: comedy bands suddenly get jobs writing songs for legit things.
Speaker 3: That's just like a lot of comedy bands have done that.
Speaker 3: We're like, we're like, ooh, we want to do it.
Speaker 3: And so yeah. The first people that called us were
Speaker 3: the SpongeBob movie, and then we wrote a song for that.
Speaker 4: And then because they saw your comedy work, they saw
Speaker 4: a song that we wrote called the Loophole, which is
Speaker 4: easily the dirtiest song we've ever written I far, and
Speaker 4: we were like, that's the song that made you hire
Speaker 4: us and they're like yep, and we're like, okay, this
Speaker 4: is going to be fun, and they were very cool.
Speaker 3: It's a really really it's a dirty song.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm supposed to go to Nashville and co write
Speaker 1: with some artists down there, and I've never done it before.
Speaker 1: I've never co written, and I'm terrified. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to do it.
Speaker 3: Really, You've never you've never done that, it's so.
Speaker 1: Fun've never done a co writing session. I think I
Speaker 1: did one once and I just didn't know what to
Speaker 1: do right, because for me, it's just sort of getting
Speaker 1: an idea and hearing something in my head and then
Speaker 1: getting it down and then lyrics come.
Speaker 3: And oh, so your melody first, lyrics not vocal. I
Speaker 3: think it's I think it's easier when your lyrics first,
Speaker 3: because then people can sort of picture the melody together.
Speaker 1: Now the words come from the sounds. The words come
Speaker 1: from that's the last thing that comes.
Speaker 3: I think most people are like you. Our stuff is
Speaker 3: all like punchlines, and so the words have to come first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gotta comfort but no, no, But sometimes it's
Speaker 1: it's an idea, it's a couple of words put together.
Speaker 1: It's like, what makes that melody sound right? And yeah,
Speaker 1: not a lot of words can fit into certain sounds right,
Speaker 1: And a lot of times they don't even make sense,
Speaker 1: and I don't care. They just sound good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot of songs I feel like. I
Speaker 3: feel like collaborating on a song on a song is
Speaker 3: like dating. Like some dates will go sometimes you'll like
Speaker 3: a lot of chemistry and you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: so fun, and sometimes you'll be like, yeah that was
Speaker 3: it was nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll totally finish that song some days. Like
Speaker 3: I think it's just like.
Speaker 1: That, right right, right, So who are your big influences?
Speaker 1: So us Simon and gar Phone call Hall and Knows.
Speaker 3: Who are who are you influences?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 3: My two big influences are weird Al and Stephen Sondheim.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, our stuff is very just like it's
Speaker 3: like musical theater. It'sh musical theater with jokes, so it's
Speaker 3: not really actually I just like Hollan Notes and Simon
Speaker 3: and Garfunkle. We don't actually sound like them. We're I
Speaker 3: love the word density of Stephen Sondheim, just how he
Speaker 3: fits so many words in one sentence. And we'd now
Speaker 3: because it was my introduction to comedy music.
Speaker 1: Interesting yeah, interesting yeah. So did you ever do any
Speaker 1: of the Gilmour songs in your shows?
Speaker 3: No? He did not even think of that. Our shows
Speaker 3: are like they're really are rated, they're very Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: they're for adults.
Speaker 1: They're very Where do you Where do you perform?
Speaker 3: We performed in Nashville a bunch of zenies really just
Speaker 3: like yeah, just comedy clubs and theaters and just everywhere.
Speaker 3: We've performed in Australia.
Speaker 1: And do you have an agent and you go on
Speaker 1: tours and that kind of oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh really yeah all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So what kind of venues are you playing? What kind
Speaker 1: of crowds?
Speaker 3: Are mostly just comedy club mostly, you know, like five
Speaker 3: or six hundred people and we do like four shows
Speaker 3: in a weekend something like that. It's so fun. We've
Speaker 3: been on hiatus though because of COVID and we haven't
Speaker 3: gotten back into it. But I'm really wanting to are.
Speaker 1: You gonna play around La? You gonna you know, get
Speaker 1: knock the rust off in LA venues?
Speaker 3: And I just started playing solo songs around LA just
Speaker 3: two weeks ago. Yeah really, I'm this is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is nothing to do with gummer girls, but I'm
Speaker 3: trying to write a musical about fertility, and so I
Speaker 3: was just like playing the songs and comedy clubs just
Speaker 3: because I don't know, why not, why not seeing how
Speaker 3: they go? Because they're funny. They're supposed to be funny.
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's really niche.
Speaker 3: People do not expect that. When I walk out, I'm like,
Speaker 3: so this is about being infertile. Here week go. And
Speaker 3: then I just like just began and I'm oh, well,
Speaker 3: you bought a ticket because you have to sit there. Well,
Speaker 3: when do you go to Nashville?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I was supposed to be God,
Speaker 1: I've delayed this so many times because of work. Work
Speaker 1: always comes up and gets the way. I'm all excited
Speaker 1: to get down there because it's Warner Chapel that wants
Speaker 1: me to come down and n and work with some
Speaker 1: of their artists. And I just like, why me, You know,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: You start you having like a little bit of the
Speaker 3: imposter voices? Yeah, yeah, I think that's good. Right. It's
Speaker 3: good to be like nervous or to be like because
Speaker 3: then it makes you be like, it makes you like
Speaker 3: want to be excellent. If you're like, if you don't
Speaker 3: doubt yourself at all, I feel like that's bad. You
Speaker 3: got to be like can I do this? Can I
Speaker 3: do this? Because it makes you like step up in
Speaker 3: my car.
Speaker 1: But I know when I'm writing my stuff. What is
Speaker 1: absolute shite and what is sort of decent and what
Speaker 1: is you know, the rare one that's like, oh that's
Speaker 1: you know that could do something, that could be something.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I hope I
Speaker 1: have time to go do it. I really want to
Speaker 1: go do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really curious about the experience. And they want
Speaker 1: me to play at the Blue Bird Cafe and I'm terrified.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm not going to play.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if we strike tomorrow, you'll have time.
Speaker 1: I guess I will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll find out tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Maybe well we'll cross paths on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That sounds so fun though, Yeah, what kind
Speaker 3: of music do you play? Well?
Speaker 1: I you know, I really like writing for a band, okay,
Speaker 1: because there's just so many options and so many sounds,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's so many genres you can mix
Speaker 1: with a band and with a synthesizer and with this
Speaker 1: and then you know, and a Fender and stratocaster, and
Speaker 1: you know, that's the kind of alchemy that I like
Speaker 1: to sort of try to come up with me. But
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever toured was with two acoustic guitars.
Speaker 1: And guitar, a really great guitar player backing me up
Speaker 1: and me singing. And I don't like singing. You don't, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm very good at it, and.
Speaker 3: I'm not very good at it either, but I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I'm like a bus I'm like, for some reason, it
Speaker 3: doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: But you enjoy it.
Speaker 3: See as good as I need to be for comedy songs.
Speaker 1: Okay, because that's the thing. It's it's the jokes right.
Speaker 3: Right, Like I'm not getting on Broadway anytime soon, but
Speaker 3: I can tell the punchlines.
Speaker 1: I just you know. And I really worked on my
Speaker 1: voice at one point and got it in great shape.
Speaker 1: And I was going to this coach and he was
Speaker 1: charging me all kinds of money and he had these
Speaker 1: great voice building techniques and they worked and I was
Speaker 1: just singing out and I was like wow, and I
Speaker 1: mean I have to do that to sound passable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be great, right. And then you
Speaker 1: hear like great singers, You're like, well, you know, they
Speaker 1: work at it too, some of them, don't. They just
Speaker 1: like roll out of bed they can do that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do this. These people are gifted.
Speaker 3: It does sort of bum me out when I'm around
Speaker 3: like a real thing because I'm writing, you know, this
Speaker 3: musical right now, and when I make the demos, I'll
Speaker 3: make them myself first, and then I'm like, what if
Speaker 3: I hire and then I have this like sort of
Speaker 3: you know, stable of demo singers. I'll hire one of them,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, now it's so much better. Like
Speaker 3: that sucks because it is way way way better. And
Speaker 3: they just sing it once and I'm like, I guess
Speaker 3: we should do it twice since you're here right right right.
Speaker 3: For me, I've got like thirty takes and I'm editing
Speaker 3: and trying to make it sound okay.
Speaker 1: But it's like, it's just if that's what you wanted
Speaker 1: to be in life, that's that's what I should have done,
Speaker 1: or that's what people should do from the time they're
Speaker 1: a kid, and then they're like in their twenties and
Speaker 1: they're doing it and they you know, they know how
Speaker 1: to do this and to conjure the the you know,
Speaker 1: the the muse and to go out there. It's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just hard. Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people just have that gift and it's just.
Speaker 1: They have to do it. That's the thing. They have
Speaker 1: to do it. They can't not do it.
Speaker 3: I feel like I was given like a sprinkle of
Speaker 3: every gift and I'm like, well, I'll still do it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll be a B minus at fifteen things.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, I can't, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Then I wish I could be a B minus at
Speaker 1: one of them. Jeez. But anyway, so you know what,
Speaker 1: let's have you back on because we you know, we'll
Speaker 1: talk more music, we'll talk all these gosh, look at
Speaker 1: all your resumes, very very impressive.
Speaker 3: It's a It's a lot of B minus stuff everywhere,
Speaker 3: and I'm kidding it's good sometimes.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, So how do we find out where you
Speaker 1: are playing?
Speaker 3: Just on my Instagram or my website.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you'll announce, Hey, I'm going to be at
Speaker 1: the comedy store Friday night. Come see me. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, good, all right, I talking to you. I
Speaker 1: may show up one night. I'm really intrigued. I love
Speaker 1: to laugh and I love singers and writers and the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I think it's well, thanks for coming on,
Speaker 1: so nice to meet you, and good luck with everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you too, and I hope I can find a
Speaker 1: show and find the time to come out and see
Speaker 1: it because it would be a real gas I would
Speaker 1: love that cool. Nice talking to you by everybody else again.
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