1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: My girlfriend doesn't see my foster kids as my real kids, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: so I chose them over her. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, what you say is you're not my real girlfriend. 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Can you break up with her? 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: My girlfriend EM and I met when we were at 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: university almost ten years ago. We had been friends on 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: and off since then, but it was never like we 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: were super close. We met again at a New Year's 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: party in twenty twenty three and we started talking more 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: and eventually we started dating. 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: I am a foster parent. 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: My parents were also foster parents when I was growing up, 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: and once I reached an age to qualify, I trained 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: to become one myself. I've been fostering since I was 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: about twenty two years old. 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: Woow, I didn't know you could do it that yet. 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that either. I currently foster three boys. 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: The older two are biological brothers and moved in with 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: me early twenty twenty two, but the youngest one is 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: eleven and has lived with me since. 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: June twenty nineteen. 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: And eleven isn't quote, So I think you might just 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: be going by eleven. 24 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: They like stranger things. Yeah, I was very I was 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: questioning the quotation work. 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he might be eleven. They're like, we don't 27 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: need both. 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: He's eleven and he goes by eleven eleven. By the way, 29 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: this comes from user throw are A five to six, seven, 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: nine to eight one on the r slash Okay storytime 31 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: sub read it. This is something that I obviously made 32 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: very clear to m when we started dating, to which 33 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: she has always been incredibly supportive. I introduced her as 34 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: my quote girlfriend to them about six months ago. I 35 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: know that took me a long time, but I'm super 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: cautious with introducing new people to them, especially considering some 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: of their past surrounding step parents. 38 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: I think that's very fair. 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seem like it worked out bas to have 40 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: a stable environment for the bost to children. She never 41 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: rushed me into introducing them and has never tried to 42 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: force a relationship with them. Looking back, I don't know 43 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: if she has even tried to form a solid relationship 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: with them at all. Eleven has been moved to a 45 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: long term placement with me, which is two steps below adoption. 46 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: It means he is never going to be removed from 47 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: my household or reintroduced back into his biological family. He 48 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: is my son, calls me dad et cetera. He hadn't 49 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: been in contact with his biological family for over two 50 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: years and has been really wanting to get in contact 51 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: with his mom. I've been trying my hardest to arrange 52 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: this for him, but his bio mom just hasn't been willing. 53 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Since he's moved in with me, she's had three more 54 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: children I have all stayed living with her. 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: This is something Eleven really struggles with. 56 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: He has such complex feelings of abandonment that I couldn't 57 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: even begin to unpack them here. But I have been 58 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: working to build his self worth back up. It has 59 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: been a long road with so many ups and downs, 60 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm getting somewhere with him finally. 61 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: Wow, shout out to Eleven. My heart goes out to you, Eleven. 62 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: That's really I mean, like good on Op two of Yeah, 63 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: like actually taking the time as seemingly a young person 64 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: taking the time to do this, and to actually be 65 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 2: like a good foster parent. 66 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly has a mission, is passionate about the mission, 67 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: and is a being a good foster parent. Me and 68 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: his social worker finally managed to arrange contact with his 69 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: bio mom and that she agreed to meet him in person. 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: This has been what he has been begging for for years. 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: It was arranged for last Sunday. Looking back, she immediately 72 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: seemed off after I told her. When I asked, she 73 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: just told me that she had a bad day at work, 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: even though she seemed fine prior. 75 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: About five days after I told her. 76 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: When the contact was arranged for, she asked to meet 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: up for a romantic dinner. I asked my mom to 78 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: have the boys for the evening and met her at 79 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: her favorite restaurant. She told me she had booked a 80 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: romantic lodge trip, and I was initially excited, but I 81 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: found out she had booked it for the same weekend 82 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Eleven was meeting his bio mom. Bad timing and presumably 83 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: OPI has informed her of this. Yeah, I would hope so, 84 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: or maybe it was just an unfortunate coincident. I told 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: her I wouldn't be able to go, that I needed 86 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: to be with Eleven because I knew that he was 87 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: going to have such a hard time processing his emotions 88 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: and thoughts after his contact, and that he would just 89 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: need that support. 90 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: She went off on. 91 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Gross, seeing how I always prioritize the boys and never her, 92 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: and how I should be happy that she booked and 93 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: paid for the getaway, even though I make more money 94 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: than her. She said, I should get my mom to 95 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: do the contact or ask the agency to arrange someone. 96 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: I said, no, I wanted to be there to support eleven. 97 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: She said something along the lines of, you won't be 98 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: able to do this when we have a child whoa yikes, Yo, 99 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: sounds like a little potential bridezilla. 100 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: It's almost a little jelly mom very jealous. 101 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she's I don't know it just clearly 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: doesn't understand the connection that Opie has with his foster kids. 103 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: And you would think that she would take an effort 104 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: like this is a really big, you know, journey to 105 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: go on as a person just to like and also 106 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: you know, know, making sure that the foster kids are okay 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: and you're okay emotionally to support them and stuff, and 108 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: then just not having a supportive partner. 109 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: She's just acting like they're like like starter. 110 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's practicing on them. They're just the. 111 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: Test run kids, right, So you're gonna throw these ones 112 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: out and when we get new ones that I make, 113 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: those are the those are the ones you're allowed to 114 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: care about. 115 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, we ended up having a huge argument. 116 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: She left the restaurant and then texted me some pretty 117 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: nasty things later, and then yesterday she messaged just normal 118 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: messages as if nothing happened, but I haven't responded. That's right, 119 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: because you have emotional boundaries and they were crossed. 120 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: I hate just glossing over. 121 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the gloss. It's so uncomfortable. 122 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: I've come to realize that she doesn't consider my boys 123 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: as genuinely part of my family. She doesn't see me 124 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: as a dad, she sees me as a babysitter. I 125 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: don't want this relationship to be over. Genuinely, I do 126 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: love her. I'm the type of guy who wears his 127 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: heart on his sleeve, and I have felt so depressed 128 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: since the fight, and it was even worse that I 129 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: just had to almost wear an emotional mask for Eleven 130 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: the past week because he has been so depressed after 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: seeing his mom that I don't want him to. 132 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: See me depressed. Where do I go from here? 133 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Please don't give the advice of just breakup, because I 134 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: know that's an option, but I don't want to take it. 135 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: It's hard finding people with what I do for a living, 136 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: and I feel so broken that I thought I had 137 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: found someone real, Oh there is an update. 138 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: I think that if OP doesn't want to break up, 139 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: which is you know, kind of what I'm laving on, 140 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: But I think if that's not the first option, then 141 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: it's having a full on saying like, hey, we need 142 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: to talk because we can't just move on, we can't 143 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: just move past. 144 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that fight that we had, and. 145 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: Explaining you know, these kids are going to be in 146 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: my life beyond just you know, when I legally have 147 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: to take care of them. I have bonded with them 148 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: and they are important to me, and they are I 149 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: see them as my kids, and just saying like, if 150 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: you can't handle that, then maybe we need to explore, 151 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: you know, breaking up. 152 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Yep, you need to definitely have a cobras sit down 153 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: and have like a very serious conversation, yeah, and make 154 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: it clearly. 155 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: It's everything about your relationship with it. 156 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: You're thinking that me fostering children is a hobby. This 157 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: is not a hobby. 158 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: It's not temperarure. 159 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: My children and I will probably foster more children in 160 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: the future, as well as any biological children we may 161 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: or may not have in. 162 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Our theoretical future relationship. 163 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: But like if you literally just see my kids as 164 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: like like a bonus, just something just like tacked on 165 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: where it's like like something for your resume, like for 166 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: like college or whatever. It's like, yeah, this will look 167 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: good for the college board. Yeah, I have fostered some children. 168 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: But let's get into this update and see what happened. 169 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Thank you guys for the support I got 170 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: from my first post. I really appreciate all the love 171 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: I got sent about. 172 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Me and the boys. 173 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: The boys. 174 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 3: I just wanted to clarify some things from my original post. 175 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Some people made a lot of really unfounded assertions about 176 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: me and my family based simply off of a post. 177 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: People saying that I would let M abuse my sons 178 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: obviously not true. I think it's mad that people would 179 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: even come to that conclusion. I was slow to introduce 180 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: M to my boys due to their past trauma with 181 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: step parents, only introducing them about six months ago. Looking back, 182 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: I can notice that she was very distant with the boys, 183 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: but at the time I had attributed that to her 184 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: maintaining boundaries because of their past trauma. 185 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: I had people. 186 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: Commenting that I would be giving my sons up when 187 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I had biological children, which is not true or was 188 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: never even suggested by me. 189 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: This is crazy because opis I feel like it made 190 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: it very clear that he was super offended by his girlfriends, 191 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: you know words. 192 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: I think it's more like people just trying to say 193 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: that that's inevitably what you're gonna have to do. 194 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 3: It's like once you. 195 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Have your real kids, very companion or yes dog No 196 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: free sponsors were not sponsored by dogs? 197 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, free sponsors for dogs. 198 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: For dogs as with us. 199 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: What really ava you want to read the rest of 200 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: the story? No, yeah, okay, turned around? 201 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: Does it involve a tennis ball? Uh? I don't think so, 202 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: but it definitely could. There's definitely some bounce to this story. Yeah, 203 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: it's we're about to get bouncing. 204 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: I really don't need to say this, but obviously it's 205 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: not true that I would just give my children up 206 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: if I had my own biological children, and it's pretty 207 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: insulting to even try to suggest. I also had people 208 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: commenting that I shouldn't call my children my children because 209 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: they haven't been legally adopted. Eleven has been long term 210 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: matched with me, and my other two are in the 211 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: same process. They are as permanent as biological children. I 212 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: see them no different, and they don't see themselves as 213 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: any different. 214 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Also it's literally just because legally Opie cannot 215 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: adopt them because they have, you know, the family situation. 216 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: That doesn't make them any last opiece kids. 217 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love people on the internet just 218 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: trying to like man's plain like, yeah, they're like, actually, 219 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: you can't even call those your children because they're not 220 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: legally on a piece of paper technically your kid, So 221 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: shut up. 222 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: Found family. Someone didn't watch the Last of Us? 223 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: I got family, all right, Vin, let's finish this up. 224 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: They're just going over your head sovia to Day. I 225 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: don't know that was in Diesel Family. 226 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: I haven't watched any of Furious you have not. Seems 227 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: like I even had people saying I was perpetuating toxic 228 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: masculinity by saying I was wearing a mask to support 229 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Eleven while he was depressed after seeing his mom. 230 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: This guy just couldn't win on all sides. 231 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: He's getting there, but I was going through a really 232 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: hard Yeah. I was like, that's you're the worst. 233 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: You're like, you're just being a toxic man by not 234 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: feeding into you feel your impression like state of mind 235 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: that Eleven was in. 236 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: Uh oh what what are you doing? 237 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Abe was trying to take She was actually trying to 238 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: take the phone to read the story. 239 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: She was trying to take the cable. 240 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but poor Op is just getting it from all 241 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: angles in the story. Everyone's telling him he's doing it wrong. 242 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: I expressed my emotions to him plenty. He did not 243 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: need anything additional at that time. I did wear a 244 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: mask so I could support him without him thinking. I 245 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: was feeling overwhelmed, which is something you do as a parent. 246 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: Like you, you can't put all of your problems as 247 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: an adult on two children. 248 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: And people would be like, yo, you're big talks. 249 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: Just thought i'd hop on and give an update about 250 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: where em and I are at currently with our relationship. 251 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: I messaged Em back and asked that we meet up 252 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: and have a conversation in person. By this point, I 253 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: had already decided I was going to officially end things 254 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: with her, but I didn't say that over the phone, 255 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: as I think it's more proper to do it in person. 256 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: We met up in town. 257 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: I asked her why she booked the holiday for the 258 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: same weekend as Elevin's visit, even though she knew it was. 259 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Then Okay, so I know she really knew. 260 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's even worse. She did it on purpose. 261 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: She was trying to see if he would place her 262 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: for like as a priority, and this was the test. 263 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 4: And he didn't pass the test for her, but he 264 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: passed the test for elevenutes. 265 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he passed the test, and she failed her own 266 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: test that she didn't realize was actually a gotcha for herself. 267 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: She told me she low down quote fir, but honestly 268 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't believe her. I think this was a test. Yes, yes, 269 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: I call it. Someone commented that she purposefully put me 270 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: in a position where I could not be the good guy. 271 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: No matter what I would choose, someone would be let down. 272 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: And honestly, I think she underestimated my devotion to my children. 273 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: She thought I would just go with her, and I 274 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: think she was genuinely shocked when I didn't. But I 275 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: don't understand why. I am quite accommodating. But I've always 276 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: made it clear my children are my first priority. I 277 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: asked her if she fully understood what my boys mean 278 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: to me. She said she did, but then in the 279 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: same breath tried to say again that I could have 280 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: arranged someone from the agency to take him to the visit. 281 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: I asked how she would have felt if your father 282 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: canceled an important day with you to go on holiday 283 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: with their girlfriend. And she said to me, you aren't 284 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: their dad. You need to stop acting like you are 285 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: your girl. You are not getting it, not getting it. 286 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: It is not getting through to you. 287 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Is it thick brain not not going through? Wires are cross? 288 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: These are his children. 289 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 2: You're literally like, they literally call him dad. 290 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: His kids in his heart. That's what they are. 291 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: Oh, what she's on. 292 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: I tried to say something planned that I had written 293 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: out before, but I'm such a bad speaker. It probably 294 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: didn't sound anything as good as what I'm about to write. 295 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: But this is what my plan was. Quote. I am 296 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: their father. 297 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: I am Just because they aren't related to me by 298 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: blood does not mean they're not my family. They are 299 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: my children. The fact you think I'm not their dad 300 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: is insane. There's absolutely no way I am letting you 301 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: poison our relationship or act in any way toxic to them. 302 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: They mean far far more to me than you ever 303 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: have or ever will. Our relationship is over, Mike drop 304 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: and then I left. I feel like she's changed so much. 305 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: But someone commented that she actually just is now showing 306 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: her true colors, which is true perhaps, but I feel 307 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: so led on and hurt. It's so hard to date 308 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: what I do for a living so hard. But as 309 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: you guys said, I don't need to stay in a 310 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: toxic relationship just because I'm scared it will be hard 311 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: to find a new positive relationship. I also had people 312 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: say it will be easier in my thirties compared to 313 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: my twenties because people will want to settle down more. 314 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: I hope that is true. But yes, we are completely through. 315 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Thank goodness. You deserve better, and what you deserve is 316 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: to join us at three pm every weekday at three 317 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: pm on YouTube Live. 318 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: Just tap our profile, Just tap it, just tap it. 319 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: I think this was what always needed to happen. I 320 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: know that Opie didn't want to originally break up with her, 321 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: but he had the conversation and she still didn't get it. 322 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: So at that point, it's just like, you can't you're 323 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: not you can't change her mind if she doesn't want 324 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: to change her mind. 325 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's just very stuck on willing to hear you out. 326 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: I wonder why. 327 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: I wonder why she was so like latched onto the 328 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: idea where it's like, these are fakekads. 329 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: They're not even yours. 330 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: You didn't give birth to them, they're not your biologicals, 331 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: they're not even adapted. 332 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: She's a hater and there's a little there's a China 333 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: left of this story. 334 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: I think she is really immature, because again, they're pretty 335 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: un Yeah, I mean, did we get it for Emily 336 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: or I think because. 337 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: Any ages I know they started. 338 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: It twenty two, we don't know how I'm assuming he's 339 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: not thirty. 340 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm assuming he's still pretty. 341 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: Probably like mid to late twenties, because it seems like 342 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: he's based on the comment. Yeah, I think it's the 343 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: reason that you're finding all of this out now is 344 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: because this is when you started introducing the kids, and 345 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: so before she thought, oh I don't have to have 346 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: a relationship with them. But when you finally said, okay, 347 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: these are these kids are a part of my life. 348 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm trusting you to have that relationship, she didn't want. 349 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: That really fumbled the bag, super hard fumbling. Yeah. 350 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I really I'm careful about who I bring around them 351 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: because they've had like you know, past like bad relationships 352 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: with their step parents, YadA YadA, and She's like, Oh whatever, 353 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,359 Speaker 1: I don't care what they're fakes? 354 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: Do I care? Yeah, they're fake. She said, let's double it. Yeah, 355 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: double it, give it and give it to the next person, 356 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: Like you even want foster creatures. 357 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: It's pretty Beach says. She's one of those that starts 358 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: dating a man and immediately takes the dad away from 359 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: the kids. But in this case, she's more to loud 360 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: than normal exactly, and Vahardamis says, because if she considers 361 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: them real kids, it's harder for her to kick them 362 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: out of the house when they have bio ones exactly, 363 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: because she's just assuming when they turn eighteen, she's not 364 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: gonna have to deal with them. 365 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, uh, jokes on you. 366 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: They're still his kids eighteen. Isn't that crazy how that works. 367 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Let's just finish this off. We just got a little 368 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: bit more. If I could use this moment to say people, 369 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,119 Speaker 1: please look into fostering. 370 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: No free sponsors, Sorry, we. 371 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: Have to. 372 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Fostering is hard, so so hard, but really worth it. 373 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: You are actively creating a better future in life for 374 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: an individual in ways that you might not even see, 375 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: but you are. You are creating a safe space and 376 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: loving environment for an individual that may have never had 377 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: one before. You are helping a person have a positive future, 378 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: whereas they may have just fallen into the cycle of 379 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: abuse before. 380 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: If you are caring and loving person, please look into it. 381 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: Shout out to foster parents. 382 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out good. Shout out to foster care. Good 383 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: foster parents are. 384 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: My family is close with our close family friend does 385 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: fostering and they've done a great job. And it's it's 386 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: exactly what Op just described. It's like you're giving a 387 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: loving environment to a person who just needs it and 388 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: has never had it. 389 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story. And while 390 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: we're getting the next story ready, we'll read them of 391 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: your comments, Sammy, thank you for being a member for 392 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: eight months. 393 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: Wow, eight months. 394 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: Already listening to you guys as I'm delivering mail. 395 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: And packages every day. We love the post office, but 396 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: we love to see it. We love the post office. 397 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: Yes, post office every day except carriers every day. But Sunday, 398 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: yeah are you doing on Sunday? Patrick B. Thank you 399 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: for being a member for seven months. Fostering is basically 400 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: just brief adoption and oh pease do it for that. 401 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it really just depends on what kind of 402 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: fostering situation you're in, because there are situations where legally 403 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: you can't adopt the child, but it's like a long 404 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: term fostering. So it's you're gonna be with them until 405 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: they're eighteen legally. But there is another story to get into, 406 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: so let's do it. My brother's beliefs are hurting everyone 407 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: around him. I need to cut him off. 408 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like that's the right move. 409 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: Ever sounds healthy. So my brother Mail twenty seven is 410 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: sort of a niche micro celebrity with a decent following, 411 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: like to the point where a small percentage of people 412 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: who see this might know who he is. Ooh, everyone 413 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: put your. 414 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: Guesses in the chat. Let's all guess who it is. 415 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: Most of his content relates to food and eating natural 416 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: whole foods, but it is apparent from his videos he 417 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: sees this diet as part of a certain ideology. 418 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: It's definitely not keviat. 419 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from just suggestion ninety five 420 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: oh three on the ar Slashirky story. Tim separate it 421 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: so you may know the type. He sees eating steak 422 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: and drinking raw milk as an act of resistance to 423 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: the government. He believes things like the World Economic Forum 424 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: taking over the planet and feeding us bugs is real. 425 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: He believes in things such as white genocide and the 426 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: Great Replacement. He is anti any form of birth control. 427 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: He believes that immigrants are invading our country and will 428 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: be the failure of the United States like it was 429 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: to the Roman Empire, and more crazy crop I can't 430 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: remember off the top of my head. So this guy 431 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: is insane? 432 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: Did he just blame immigration solely for the collapse of 433 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: the entire Roman Empire? All right? Someone finds guy. I 434 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 3: hope to find this guy. 435 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Is this the guy who like goes like he like 436 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: goes out to dinner and he just like says like 437 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: a dumb hot take and then like his response. 438 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: To it, and he's like, all right, that's yeah. 439 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: He's like, No, I've actually did a lot of research 440 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: on this. 441 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: You just don't know, can't I say, though, really quickly 442 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: that the bugs thing, the eating the bugs is it's 443 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: not Look, I have no take on whether the World 444 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Economic Forum wants you to eat bugs. 445 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: But crickets are a nearly complete food source. 446 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, crickets are the best. I mean, they've got 447 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: a lot. 448 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: Of micros macros everywhere, most all of them. 449 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: I'm good think they're basically a superfood. 450 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: You got cricket flower. 451 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: If you can, If you can grow a cricket farm 452 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: in the apocalypse, you're gonna be the king of your 453 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: little apocalypse community because you got all the food you'll 454 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: ever need. 455 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: Anyway, this has been slowly building for the four years 456 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: to the point where he's a total nut job. Now. 457 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: Should I have been calling him out on these things 458 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: as they progressed, Yes, But at the same time, when 459 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: his actions like this began, I mailed twenty one was 460 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: only around twelve to thirteen, So in the early stages 461 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: of this, during his twenty sixteen Trump phase, I wasn't 462 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: old enough to be politically informed, let alone navigate a 463 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: conversation like this. Around twenty twenty, he was a pretty 464 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: mellow dude. I think he voted third party in that election. 465 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 2: But at that point he was a very reasonable guy. 466 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: He was just pretty moderate. Liked guns but wasn't crazy, 467 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: got the COVID vaccine, but didn't take social distancing too seriously. 468 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: He was just like a normal guy. However, around twenty 469 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: twenty one to twenty twenty two, he began to spiral. 470 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, he got into that little echo chamber. 471 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: The delicious, the delicious, downward spirally conservative. 472 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: Dam Before I go into exp his history, I have 473 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: to give more context to his personality. He has been 474 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: extreme his entire life. When he gets into something, it 475 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: has to be his entire personality. He is also extremely dramatic. 476 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: When he was twelve and he went to church camp 477 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: for a couple of days and learned about what ending 478 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: your life was. Afterwards, he kept going on about how 479 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: he was going to end himself every time a minor 480 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: issue arose. My whole childhood, he would be screaming with 481 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: my parents back and forth, having all of these issues. 482 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: And I remember as a child this gave me the 483 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: idea that he was a ticking time bomb not to 484 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: be challenged with, an idea that I believe to an 485 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: extent has been instilled into me. 486 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: He's just like, just don't even mess with that guy. 487 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: That's that's the not to be challenged with. 488 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: I say. I think, just being like. 489 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: It's like, you can't even fight him because he's just 490 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: so far gone. 491 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: Just let him do what he's gotta do, let him, 492 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: let him go on his own, and hopefully he doesn't 493 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: do the thing that one thing, don't do that. 494 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I guess he likes raw meat, right, 495 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: that's was it the mistake? 496 00:21:59,359 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 497 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: Is it not raw? It was just steaks. 498 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: I think it's a stake. 499 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys on the internet that just 500 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: eat like raw meat. 501 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: I've seen that. 502 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they look very unwell. 503 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: To explain his spiral, it began with the Internet Workout 504 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: Challenge seventy five hard Right. That was the start to 505 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: his alt right pipeline. Anyway, with the program, he thinks 506 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: that it made him realize he was living life as 507 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: a degenerate and that this world is filled with evil 508 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: and degeneracy that needs to be condemned. 509 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: Ah. 510 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: Yes, as as is known. 511 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: Everyone knows this, and he's the savior. Keep in mind, 512 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: for him, things like immigrants wanting to come to the 513 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 2: US and refusing to assimilate is degeneracy. All people that 514 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: are LGBTQ are participating in generasy, et cetera. All those 515 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: things that come from hate are his idea of degeneracy. 516 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: Sounds judgmental, right. 517 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like this guy's got really he's 518 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: gotten really good at judging of it. 519 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's really judgmental. 520 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: It sounds dramatic. 521 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: He's a little bit yes, to generate, degenerate immigrant degenerated. 522 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: It's like degenerate, yes, but it's just degenerate. 523 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: It's just you're all degenerates. So, long story short. This 524 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 2: led to his next phase, Orthodox Christianity. He just goes 525 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: to the hyperxation phase. 526 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeahm Orthodox. 527 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, he just has a really strange like navigation 528 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: strategy for his ADHD is really really hyper fixated on 529 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: just the wrong stuff. 530 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: Rightley, wrong stuff. 531 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 532 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: Now, all of this has been reflected in his content. 533 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: I forgot he was a content creator. He was on 534 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: and off trying to be an influencer six since twenty sixteen, 535 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 2: but hit his stride in twenty twenty on TikTok with 536 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: bait content and no real consistent niche. He tried finding 537 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: his niche for a while, first with male cheerleading, but 538 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: eventually found it in this hatred under the skies of 539 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: self improvement. Well, a lot of the content would be 540 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: food related. He would throw in conspiracy about COVID nineteen 541 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: being fake, about the World Economic Forum, about Jewish people 542 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: running the world, how the FBI supplies the guns and 543 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: school shootings and more. 544 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, he just checked every box there. It's 545 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: like every truth. 546 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: He just looked up like alphabetized conspiracy theories and just 547 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: went through. It was like yep, yep, yep, yep. 548 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 1: That is like you just like and I'm gonna make 549 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: this my entire personality a few weeks and then I'm 550 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: gonna move on to this next one. 551 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: And has his own wheel that he spins and he's 552 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: just like, Okay, what's my conspiracy theory for the week. 553 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: He has like a little pizza box where it's like, okay, 554 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: what am I flip a coin? 555 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: And that's it. That's I can actually do a really 556 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: quick conspiracy, just a side conspiracy. So okay, let me 557 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 3: let me do this. 558 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: We we don't know what stops a vampire, folks, garlic, 559 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: But do you know what garlic actually does to your blood? 560 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: It makes your blood thinner, and when your blood. 561 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: Is thinner, it makes you easier to drink, which means 562 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: garlic has just been seasoning for vampires this entire time. 563 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: Just smoothing our blood. 564 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 2: And there you have it, FOT and that's the truth, 565 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: and that's the year's reason and of course recently in 566 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: this new Orthodox Christian phase. He now posts about that 567 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: now in this Orthodox Christian phase, in less than six months, 568 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: he got married to someone from a Christian dating app, 569 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: female twenty four, dropped out of his doctorate program to 570 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: go live in a rural area and they are expecting 571 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: a child. Okay, this guy moves quick. 572 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 3: That dude became Orthodox Christian life. 573 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: Quick, really quick. Anyway, this takes us to now, I 574 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: am dating a woman, female twenty who was a second 575 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: generation immigrant. We have been dating since we were seventeen eighteen. 576 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: We are deeply in love. She comes from a hard background, 577 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: with her family not knowing American systems. She was forced 578 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: from a young age to be independent and figure things 579 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: out because her single mother did not know how all 580 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: these system works, and she was busy doing what she 581 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: could to make ends meet. Despite this, she is doing 582 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: great currently as a four point zero college and is 583 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: all around an amazing girl. She's super kind, outgoing, et cetera. 584 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: I could go on. I hope this isn't a problem 585 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: for the brother. I can only imagine think it is. 586 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna is he gonna maybe pivot and 587 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: become hyper says with like LGBTQ rights. 588 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe he's gonna switch up. He's like, 589 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm actually really liberal now, really progressed 590 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: her table. Now. My other brother, male twenty three, the 591 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: middle child, is engaged to a first generation immigrant. They 592 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 2: met in college. She female twenty four, can relate a 593 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: lot to my girlfriend, as they are both brown Muslim 594 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: girls and they share many similar experiences. It is slightly 595 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: different because she comes from a high status family in 596 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: her native country and is a first generation immigrant, so 597 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: her background is a bit different from my girlfriend, but 598 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: they have a lot in common and get along very 599 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: well as a whole. The four of us get along 600 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 2: great and are pretty close anyway. My brother here we 601 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: Go has posted many things that are extremely scary and dangerous. 602 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: Many of these things relate directly against us, anti IMMI, 603 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: great immigrant things, things that are anti interracial marriage, yikes, 604 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: anti Muslim rhetoric, et cetera. If he was a normal 605 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: trumpy I wouldn't even care too much. We all have 606 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: family members we disagree with, but it's deeper than that. 607 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: When my mom female fifty two, tried to confront him 608 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: on this, he went on a tangent and said tons 609 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: of crazy crap. I'll just put two of these in 610 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: a simple bullet point for him to make it easier 611 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: to read. 612 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: One. 613 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 2: He talked about how in school he has been brainwashed 614 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: to hate himself for being white, and told my mom 615 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: she hates herself. 616 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: Okay, well wait, here's my counterpoint. 617 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: If you're so smart and you're such a genius, how 618 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: did you get brainwashed into hating yourself because you're white. 619 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. 620 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound pretty stupid. He said that our white 621 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: culture is under attack from immigrants and that there is 622 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: no issue with him wanting to preserve our race since 623 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: we created the great civilized nations of this world and 624 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: most of the great modern advances in math science, which 625 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: is just ignoring all of the great advancements from Asia 626 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: at the Middle East, et cetera. Truly crazy, truly ignoring 627 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: so many of the advancements and technology. 628 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: For Asia, and like, if it wasn't for all of 629 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: these non white civilizations, yeah, the white culture would still 630 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: be in the dark ages. Literally, like when the fork 631 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: and knife were like utensils were brought to Europe the 632 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: first time, like by like an Arabian, like royal like 633 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: queen or princess or something like. All the church clergy 634 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: and stuff, like all the people who were in charge 635 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: were like, how dare. 636 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: You devise of an instrument to eat food? God gave 637 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: us hands to eat with. And then the black plague happened. 638 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: And then they got like, dude, all of the all 639 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: the white cultures were like, not, they're pretty dirty. I mean, 640 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: if we look at all of the cultures that had 641 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: effective what's the word like like water aquedu? 642 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look at you. 643 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: No, no, no no. 644 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 3: The Romans did it best though, but guess what but 645 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: we had like the Romans weren't all Winans. It's not 646 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: all white. 647 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's crazy. And also you wouldn't even have 648 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: guns without non white girltre as an idiot. 649 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: He just listens to what other people says and then 650 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: takes it. Is the word, the gospel. 651 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: The Gospel, the Gospel. 652 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 653 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, there was more, but I think you can all 654 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: get the point. This is not just a normal conservative 655 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: guy I disagree with, or normal Trump supporter. This is 656 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: someone who I would consider a white supremacist. Because of this, 657 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: my girlfriend, my brother is fiance and I all do 658 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: not want to be around him. Keep in mind he 659 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 2: also carries a weapon with him at all times. All times. 660 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: I would not want to be around this man. 661 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: America, baby, that's what it's all about. 662 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: America is about being weaponized at all times. 663 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: Irrigation was the word I was looking for. Thank you. 664 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: Irrigation. 665 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: Uh, yes, the way you described it, though maybe I 666 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: was sting. Maybe there's another word I'm thinking. Because of this, 667 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: my parents are heartbroken and are constantly telling us about 668 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: how we need to reach out to him and make 669 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: it known how we feel, because we need to talk 670 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: about any grievance says we have and make amends. 671 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: M No, you don't know. 672 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: You don't need to make amends with this man. Keep 673 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: him far away. 674 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: You're a heavily armed brother who's yeah, scary, making it 675 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: clear he hates you and your partner and that you're 676 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: not straight and that one of you is not white. 677 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't talk to that. 678 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: I don't think we need to talk to him. We 679 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: don't always have to forgive everyone. My dad went on 680 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: a long rant about how he has had a lot 681 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: of family drama because his siblings used to be jealous 682 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: of him being spoiled as the youngest child. And other 683 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: juvenile things like that. He told me that even though 684 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: I think this is a big issue, it is not 685 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: in the grand scheme and it is just as important 686 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: as those small family feuds. This guy, the dad is 687 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: like he's allowing this to keep going, like he's not 688 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: doing anything to stop this brother is not taking this seriously. 689 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: It might be a bit of an influence here, I'm feeling. 690 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: And also I don't think the whole story. I don't 691 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: think we're getting the whole story. When Dad's like, yeah, 692 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: my siblings were jealous of me, they were so jealous. Cool, Yeah, 693 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: it's like, well, maybe you actually suck. 694 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: And he keeps talking about how having a brother is 695 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: such a magical thing and how I'm throwing that all 696 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: away by not wanting to communicate how I feel about him. 697 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't hope he have like another brother. I thought that 698 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: was like, oh, he has two brothers, Yeah, he already 699 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: know like this, or they already know what it's like 700 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: to have a good brother. Keep in mind, my brother 701 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: knows how we feel. He did not reach out immediately 702 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: after my parents tried to talk to him about this. 703 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: My parents had to push him. This led to him 704 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: trying to apologize once, but it was more along the 705 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: lines of him just explaining his worldview and then ended 706 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: in him saying he would not post about the doom 707 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: and gloom anymore. No dialogue of the actual racism at 708 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: display anyway. Today I was going over everything I know 709 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: about him in my mind, and out of frustration, I 710 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: called him and confronted him about it. I will admit 711 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: I got pretty frustrated and wasn't as clear as I 712 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: could have been, but I put everything out on the table. 713 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: I could tell he was taken aback by how upfront 714 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: I was and how I knew things. He maybe thought 715 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know, because he began to stutter and seemed 716 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: confused about how I knew things. But he then began 717 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: to defend those positions. He uh, he began to start. 718 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: He was just looking, Yeah, I'm just gonna man explain 719 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: the whole world to you. And then she was like, 720 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I actually have thoughts on my own, and he's like, 721 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: oh the bus No, you're not supposed to do that. 722 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: How did you you foiled all my plans? 723 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh? Knowledge, But he began to start trying to debate 724 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: me on these things. But I told him I didn't 725 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: care to talk about policy, and that I was simply 726 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: making it clear from my own mouth that if he's 727 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: going to post hateful things out in the world that 728 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: are anti immigrant and refer to them as barbaric invaders, crazy, 729 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: crazy people who are immigrants are going to react accordingly 730 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: and not want to be around him. Well, afterwards, I 731 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: talked to my parents for like seven hours straight. Well, 732 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: we agreed on some there was a lot we disagreed on. 733 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: They kept telling me how I needed to talk to 734 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: him and work this out, how we need a happy 735 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: family and me going off on him will not lead 736 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: to any reckon and how me not communicating with him 737 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: is the reason our family is falling apart. 738 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, you not communicating with him, that's the reason. 739 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: That is the reason, not because he's a certifiable. 740 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: Crazy man o s. 741 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: And they defended him in what he said to an extent, 742 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 2: telling me he's ignorant, but that I am ignorant as well, 743 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: because I don't know why he believes those things. I 744 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: told him I don't need to give grace to someone 745 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: six years older than me, and that I want to 746 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: just make it known how I feel and he can 747 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: react accordingly. But they don't see it that way, and 748 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 2: Dutchess Sona says, correct me if I'm wrong. But isn't 749 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: op a guy? I think OPI might be? 750 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: No, I thought op I was female. 751 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: Sick because I thought that was part of why they 752 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: were so nervous, just because it was like, oh, that's 753 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 1: like my brother's talking about how he hates gay people. 754 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: And I think that was just a sight out. But 755 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: it also doesn't say it just says my brother male 756 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: twenty seven. Yeah, we don't actually know Opie's gender. 757 00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: You know. 758 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: What we do know though, that you can join us 759 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: live every week to at three PMPSD just tap our profile. 760 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, regardless of your gender. 761 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 2: Of your gender, you can do that. But there is 762 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more of the story. But I think, well, 763 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 2: what do you think. 764 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: I think that like, this guy's right to carry a 765 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: firearm maybe needs to be taken away with all of 766 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: the crazy, unhinged stuff he keeps posting on the internet 767 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: and like scary. 768 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. Uh. 769 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: I think maybe relevant agencies need to be inform informed 770 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: about this guy's state of mind. 771 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully he's on some sort of list with all of 772 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: his online content. But yeah, I think that Honestly, you 773 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: don't owe any of your family members of relationship if 774 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: they are acting like this and if they are actively 775 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: hurting your loved ones and your partners. You already have 776 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: a You have a brother. You don't need two brothers. 777 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's a limit. There's a limit. 778 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: There's a limit to where grace can be given, exactly 779 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: like kind of what OP is saying? Or it is 780 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: like this person six years older than me, Like I 781 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: don't need to like give them like, oh, the benefit 782 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: of the doubt of like oh, I guess. 783 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: You'll learn or you'll chance. It's like, no, this is 784 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: just who you are. And if you're comfortable feeling this, 785 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 3: I don't really want. 786 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: Anything to do around you. 787 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 3: And yeah that's. 788 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: And there you have it. But there are some fan funding. 789 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 2: What were you to say? 790 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. 791 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: It's just seems like a guy who can get a 792 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: little off the rails, easily swayed by things, the little 793 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: intense about things. 794 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: So hopefully he doesn't hyper focus on trying to make your. 795 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: Life miserable because he feels like you slighted him, so again, 796 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: fully get the firearm. 797 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: Out of him. I would say, it's the fact that 798 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 2: he carries it all the time. 799 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 3: This is extra. 800 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope he's not taking it into church. Man. 801 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, nope. 802 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: It's burning beach, says relevant. Agencies won't do anything until 803 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 2: it's too late. So many things they know of before 804 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: it happens, and they choose not to do anything. You'll 805 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: but while we get ready for this next story, let's 806 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: read some of the donors forty. 807 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 3: Five for Father christ. 808 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: I had to say it. 809 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: I had to say it. It came in my head. I 810 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: had to say it. 811 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: What time are we at for this episode? 812 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: It will? 813 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: You know, like how long? 814 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: Probably like twenty? We're only a twenty for this episode 815 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 3: or for that story for the episode. 816 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: Oh it's pretty beach. Thank you for being a member 817 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: for four months, Dakota. You gained my six year old 818 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: daughter as a fan. She looked at you earlier and said, mom, 819 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 2: I like that guy. I said me too, he's funny. 820 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: We love you all. Look at you. 821 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 3: Thanks, Brittany. I appreciate it. I like you guys too. 822 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: I like you guys. I like you guys. You all 823 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: look pretty nice, pretty nice, pretty nice. 824 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: I bet you funny. You're probably funny too. 825 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: What's up? 826 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 3: Nothing? Uh? 827 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: What's the Yeah, what's the thing on the time. 828 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to find it. 829 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 2: It should be at the bottom. So the way that 830 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 2: the red right, like the red recording, time. 831 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: Only goes forward except if you're a reverse tachion. 832 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: Can we go back to the chat? 833 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: Recently been discovered? Does anyone in the chat know about 834 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: reverse tachions? 835 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 2: Takon drive? 836 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: I can't find. 837 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna help you sound off if you know 838 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: about reverse tachions. 839 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 3: It's actual time travel actual mm hmm, no way. Yeah. 840 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: So there's these there's these like really there's sort of 841 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 3: like quirks. 842 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: They're really small particles that have been observed at the 843 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: poles the north and that I believe. 844 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 3: The south, I can't remember which one. 845 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: But they can only move in one direction. They're like 846 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: direction locked. But they've scientists have observed tachions traveling backwards 847 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: along the same path that they were traveling, which means 848 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: that the tachions could theoretically be time traveling. 849 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: But the thing with time traveling pathway, I feel like 850 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: if it if someone time travel I don't know. I 851 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: think there's a bunch of things because it's like, wouldn't we. 852 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: Know, I don't know if someone is time travel but 853 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: it's like, well, they would have had articles following the. 854 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 3: Rules and laws of the universe. 855 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: That's true, which I think. I feel like if we 856 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 2: had invented time travel, or if we were going to 857 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: invent time travel. 858 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: We would have seen somebody. 859 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: Now yeah, well maybe they invented invisibility cloaks at the 860 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: same time. 861 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: But let's invent this next story.