1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: A lot of talk about the year two for Marvin 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Harrison Junior? What about Trey Benson? God Paul Calvic with 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: me berg Gang, we talk running backs. Mac Wilson Senior 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: continues to fly around the field updated waits for a 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: handful of players, especially along the line of scrimmage and 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: what's the latest with Paul's mustache. It's Cardinals Cover two, 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: Episode nine oh three, and it starts now. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: Buda Baker, What Heart? 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: What rent? This guy's unbelievable? 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again, 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: some more hurry magic. 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcriolo. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 4: So can I begin with a quote? 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: Paul? 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: Well, Craig, Cardinals Cover two is your domain, so you 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: can do whatever you stink and want. You're under center 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: right now calling the place. Well, this is your quote. 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: Oh so here it is? Okay, Well we'll see if 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: it's really good. You might have to pay a royalty 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: or some sort of licensing fee. 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Quoting Paul Calvici no less than twenty four hours ago. 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: Quote, I always coach op gree ten minutes into the 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: big Red rage. Wow, what is going on? 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: Okay, somebody outed me on that one. I thought I 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: could slip that one in. We'll unnoticed. So obviously we 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: have a leak in the room. I'm gonna have to 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: find that out. We'll deal with that a little bit later. Yeah, Craig, 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: I just want to, you know, see if people are 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: paying attention, you know, just let everyone know that we're 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: just not down there taking video and watching football with 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: a cold beverage in our hand. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: You know, we're actually. 37 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: Providing a service, not unlike what Kalayis Campbell does with 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: the defense or Calvin Beacham does with the offense. I 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: like to think I'm able to do with my fellow 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: media colleagues. 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're the eighteen year veteran and I'm the 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: third year young players that what you're saying here, Paul, 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Well you're. 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: Saying maybe you're young in your own mind, but you know, 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: once again, this is your domain, Craig. If that's what 46 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: you want to think, it's a free country. 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So since you're coaching me up, coach me up 48 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: on what you saw, what you noticed, what you heard 49 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: here on Friday, day three, but day two of the 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: open practice, open portion of training camp here at State Farmstadium. 51 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: Well, I'm still reeling from getting an answer to my 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: biggest question at Cardinals camp the day before. If you 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: want to go twenty four hours in the rear view 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: mirror getting the answer to who's the mic linebacker? I 55 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: thought maybe that would be a little bit more of 56 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: a process. I thought maybe we might have to ask 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: a few more questions, pull a few more teeth to 58 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: get that answer. But boom, mac Wilson Senior letting us 59 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: know that he is the mic linebacker. So my I 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: today actually went to who was alongside mac Wilson Senior? 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: Hard not to notice that Cody Simon, the fourth round rookie, 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: was out there quite a bit. Hard not to notice 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: that Owen Papo was out there. Year three, all the 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: athleticism in the world, Is he ready to make an impact? 65 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: What did JG say before practice? You know it needs 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 3: to go out there and let a rip. Owen Papo 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: just needs to be a playmaker, be heard, be seen, 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: be disruptive. We know he did it on special teams, 69 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: can he do it as an inside backer? And then 70 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: there is a Keem Davis Gaither who had a chance 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: to interview in the offseason in the radio studio, and 72 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: he comes in brimming with confidence, a guy who proved 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: at the last half dozen games or so for the 74 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: Bengals down the stretch, not unlike Mac Wilson Senior did 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: in the final month or month plus for the New 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: England Patriots two years ago. So I think that is 77 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: quietly the most competitive position battle on this team. Who's 78 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: going to line up at inside linebacker next to Mac Wilson? 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: And honestly, I think it could be any of the 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: three now if they had their druthers, maybe it would 81 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: be Cody Simon, because Okay, you'd love to see a 82 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: rookie come off defensive MVP in the National Championship game 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: and pick right up where he left off and how 84 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: he seemingly got better with every single college game as 85 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Ohio State marched to the national title. But but I mean, 86 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: you just can't replace the experience that agg has and 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: that onwhen Papo has gained over the last two years. 88 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: So hey, let there be competition. 89 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Super smart is how Mac described Cody. Simon one asked Mac, hey, 90 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: what do you think about Cody? And that was where 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: the two words without hesitation. So you talk about, all right, 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: the adjustment level one in the offseason, it's picking up 93 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: the playbook and if you can master that as a rookie, 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: day two pick doesn't matter. But you're here, then okay, 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: how do you process the playbook? How do you get 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: that information to the guys in front of you, to 97 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: the guys behind you if eventually Cody does become the 98 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: wearer of the green dot. 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: But I'm more. 100 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: Curious how often I mentioned this on Thursday with Danny 101 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover too, how often Mac is by 102 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: himself solo amongst the defense or that second level because 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: you've got three definitive defensive lineman, you've got Josh wet 104 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: Baron Browning, Davin Collins outside linebackers, but close to the 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and Mac's just there floating around. And 106 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: we saw late in practice on Friday they were working 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: on third down ones versus one's eleven on eleven and 108 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: the first pass play Mac batted it down. It was 109 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: a quick out, at least from my perspective. It was 110 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: on the right side of the field where I was standing, 111 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: and he batted it down. And number two kinda is 112 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: looking like Number three Buddha Baker all over the field 113 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: and maybe getting unlocked here in his second year within 114 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: this defense. 115 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: Okay, that's in astute observation. I'll mark that in the 116 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: win column for you. That's that's well done. You're not 117 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: just hanging around the dessert tray in the media press box. 118 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: So you're right, here's the thing. And I watched that too, 119 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, all right, guess what if you fortified 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: your defensive front, which you have, then maybe that does 121 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: give you the ability to go with a single inside packer. 122 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: But what did the Detroit Lions doing Week three a 123 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: year ago? They started the game with what six offensive 124 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: linemen and they just said, here it comes, can you 125 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: stop us? So if you're going to go consistently with 126 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 3: a single inside linebacker, I'm guessing other teams will make 127 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 3: the in game adjustment and they're just going with a 128 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: power running game and they will cram it vertical. On 129 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: the other hand, if you're stout enough upfront, with the 130 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: addition of Dalvin Tomlinson, who ain't no stinking three to 131 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: twenty five. 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: By the way they did. 133 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: They did relist his weight, didn't he Because I'm the 134 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 3: big red rage Craig right after I said I was 135 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: coaching you up, Wolf, and I expressed a little bit 136 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: of skepticism that three twenty five was act right in 137 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: the waight callum. 138 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing what happens in a day's time. But yeah, 139 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: the updated roster and this is there been. I mean 140 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: two dozen players have had their weights adjusted, whether they're 141 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: increased or decreased. MacWilson Senior lost six pounds in a day. 142 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: He went from two forty six to two forty. But 143 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Dalvin is listed at three thirty five, okay, and he 144 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: looks every bit at three thirty five. But again, watching 145 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: the defensive line on that side of the field on Friday. 146 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: He is quick. 147 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: It's not a slow plotting three thirty five. He gets 148 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: in that three point stance and comes off the ball, 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: so he takes up a lot of space plus and 150 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: you hope that he can get into the backfield quickly 151 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, maybe that inside linebacker, 152 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: whether it's Mac or someone else, doesn't have a lot 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: of obstacles in his way and can make some plays 154 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: at the second level and don't have guys ball carriers 155 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: getting into the secondary. And now all of a sudden, 156 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Budda Baker to make one hundred and fifty plus tackles. 157 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: Right, and look, if you have to, let's reverse engineer this. 158 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: What did they not get with Kaizer White that they're 159 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: trying to achieve this season. There's a reason they moved 160 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: away from Kaizer White, who was one of four team 161 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: captains who had played the second most snaps on defense, 162 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 3: only to boot A Baker. So did they want more 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: of an inside linebacker crew? They can go sideline to sideline, 164 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: that's my guess. Oh, by the way, mac Wilson senior 165 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: can run. We know that because he's played off the edge. 166 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: In fact, he did this second half of last year, 167 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: played off the edge quite a bit out of necessity, 168 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: A because of injuries, b because they needed to affect 169 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: the quarterback at a greater rate. But wait a minute, now, 170 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: he lost how many pounds? Six pounds? 171 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 4: Six? 172 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so now ostensibly he's even quicker. He's caught your 173 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: eye in being quick. So if mac Wilson's senior, all 174 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 3: of a sudden, okay, what does he give you the 175 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: kaizer White did not the ability to go sideline to sideline. 176 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: Cody Simon said, I don't have the exact stat but 177 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: he said a bunch of records last year at Ohio State, 178 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: for a the number of tackles combined with the number 179 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: of stops in the backfield, he had seven sacks. He 180 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: had seven tackles for loss. In other words, he was 181 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: an inside linebacker who was all over the field and 182 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: consistently behind the line of scrimmage. So if that's something 183 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: that Cody Simon can give you, along with and even 184 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: quicker mac Wilson Senior, man that and you have a 185 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: stout defensive line that's gonna keep those guys clean at 186 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: a much greater degree than the last couple of years. Now, 187 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I agree with you. You can 188 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: go seek and destroy MacWilson Senior and Buddha Baker Jalen 189 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: Thompson rabbit. We've seen how aggressive he can be. So 190 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, you're dialing up this combination 191 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: of safeties inside linebackers. But you have the ability to 192 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: do that because now all of a sudden, kalais Dalvin 193 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 3: Tomlinson a new and approved Darius Robinson. You know, you 194 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: just have guys in the trenches Josh Sweat at six five, 195 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 3: two sixty five, zaman At about the same, maybe even 196 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: two seventy on Zavian Collins. So if you can put 197 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: that kind of beef up front and let your linebackers 198 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: in safety, ze, Yeah, I can see Nick Rowlis go 199 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: in that direction. 200 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: And what does Mac offer you that maybe Kaiser didn't 201 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: or maybe Mac does it a little bit better. And 202 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: that's the versatility as far as near the line of 203 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: scrimmage sideline to sideline dropping, And what does that versatility 204 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: allow Nick Rowlis to do, be a little bit more 205 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: exotic figure out the best eleven. Maybe it doesn't look 206 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: traditionally like a three four or four to three. And 207 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll see Mac solo at inside 208 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: linebacker a lot, but it has been something that at 209 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: least through two days, has caught my eye. But again 210 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: it goes back to all right, if you you put 211 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: so much resources, whether financial or draft capital, along the 212 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: defensive line and outside linebacker, and you don't want to 213 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: lose any of those players when you're cutting from ninety 214 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: to fifty three, Well, it's got to come from somewhere else, 215 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: and maybe it comes from an inside linebacker position. Because 216 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: your best eleven includes three defensive linemen, four defensive linemen 217 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: and two or three outside linebackers, and of course in 218 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the secondary, three corners, three safeties. How do you work 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: that math to fifty three and obviously eleven for particular play. 220 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: So we know how much this coaching staff and this 221 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: GM loved positional flexibility, and then when it comes to 222 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: game planning, they love to flex that positional flexibility itself 223 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: by trying to confuse offenses and quarterbacks in particular. So 224 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: to your point, Mac Wilson Senior can play off the edge. 225 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: He's now playing the mic. He can be anywhere on 226 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 3: any given snap. Zaman Collins, former mic linebacker, now outside linebacker. 227 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: He's told us there have been games where he's played 228 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 3: a half dozen different positions, including a three technique who's 229 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: then asked to bail upon the snap and go play 230 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: center field. Okay, now you add a Baron Browning who 231 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: added how much? How many elbe's did he add? 232 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: That was the surprising one. 233 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: As far as the adjustments and weights, Baron Browning is 234 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: now listed at two hundred and fifty five pounds, an 235 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: increase from where he was again yesterday, but really last 236 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: season he added fifteen pounds and watching him again in 237 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: a single digit wearing number five, it looks albeit fifteen 238 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: pounds heavier, but the way it's proportioned, his shoulders are bigger, 239 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: his legs look twice the size. And remember you had 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: a couple of conversations with him when he arrived. He 241 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: was never really one hundred percent healthy in Denver and 242 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: in coming to Arizona, it took him a little while, 243 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: and then towards the back half of the season he 244 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: started to kind of feel like himself and then get 245 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: used to this defense. And now with a full off season, 246 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: something Jonathan Gannon discussed earlier on Friday, you might see 247 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more of Baron Brownie, not just straight 248 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: ahead rush, but also set the edge and maybe dropp 249 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,479 Speaker 1: into coverage a little bit, kind of like Zaven Collins. 250 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: See in Denver used him in a variety of different ways, 251 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: and that's one of the reasons he got off to 252 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: a bit of a slow start. Is a third round 253 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: pick out of Ohio State a few years ago, so 254 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: he has that versatility as well and then you take 255 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: a Jordan Birch. It was kind of a similar body 256 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: type to a Zavon Collins. So now you have four 257 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: guys right there, Craig who have a ton of versatility 258 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 3: that can be using in a variety of different ways. 259 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: So a year ago we sort of went with that 260 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: nickname affectionately, you know, eleven card pickup as opposed to 261 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: fifty two card pickup. Like, you just have dudes walking 262 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: around along the line of scrimmage and where are they 263 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 3: going to be? And it makes it look like it's 264 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 3: complete chaos. Now they know what their assignments are and 265 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: what gap they have to defend when the ball is snapped. 266 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: But I can just see Jonathan again and Nick Rowlis 267 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: scheming this up, devising this up, and really confusing offenses, 268 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: especially the first month of the year. What do they 269 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 3: always talk about, you want to get four games of 270 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: film on a team and on a scheme before you 271 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: really get a good handle. Well, I think in the 272 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: month of September Cardinals are gonna be throwing a lot 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: of curveballs out there with a lot of different players 274 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: used in a variety of different ways. And I think, yes, 275 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: it does start with guys like Mackwill's senior Zavin Collins, 276 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: Baron Browning, Jordan Birch, and then we've seen, you know, 277 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: even Kalais Campbell can play anywhere from the nose all 278 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: the way out to the five techniques. So it's gonna 279 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: be really intriguing to see just just how different the 280 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: defense looks series to series, starting Week one in New Orleans. 281 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: By the way, you bring up Zavian he has increased 282 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: ten pounds from a year ago, not enlisted at two 283 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds, Dante Stills and even three hundred pounds, 284 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: an additional fourteen pounds from a year ago. And then 285 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: stand along the line of scrimmage offensive lineman Paris Johnson 286 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: Junior a twelve pound increase listed at three to twenty five, 287 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: Christian Jones a fifteen pound increase listed at three twenty. 288 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Now we talk a lot about that defensive line and 289 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: offensive line. Well, two brand new position coaches at both 290 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: of those spots, justin Fry and coach Debo. And again 291 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: some of this is just Okay, what do we need, 292 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: what do we want you at? What are you comfortable at? 293 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Paul, everyone made a big deal of how 294 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, and how he looked and how many 295 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: pounds he gained. It wasn't just him, It's been throughout 296 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: this entire roster as far as guys gaining weight. And 297 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: again it's good weight, and some guys have dropped some weight, 298 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: but more than not, more often than not, it was 299 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: guys gaining anywhere between five to fifteen pounds because of 300 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: what this coaching staff wants them to do and believes 301 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: that they are best served to do at a certain 302 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: particular weight. 303 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: And maybe the most important guy we haven't cited yet, 304 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 3: Isaiah Adams. Does he have a new weight listed? Because 305 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: on the Big Red Rage a couple months ago, he 306 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: said his range was anywhere from three to fifteen to 307 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: three twenty five and he mentioned the strength and the 308 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: muscle mass that he had put on, how he did 309 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: feel stronger and more explosive. And the reason I bring 310 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: this up because as we track towards the first practice 311 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: with pads, I mean, I think if I could have, 312 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: if I could devise one matchup, I want to see 313 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: Isaiah Adams take on a Dalvin Thomlinson bul rush and 314 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: that's gonna. 315 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: Be a real gauge. 316 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: Okay, how equipped is he in year two to handle 317 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: the physicality of playing interior offensive line? 318 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: Isaiah still listed at three fifteen as he was last year, 319 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: and Dobbins Dan. So you're gonna have three fifteen Isaiah 320 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Adams going against three thirty five Dalvin Tomlinson and that 321 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: first O line. D line padded practice on Monday. 322 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: And I want to see. I'm right there for it. 323 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm gonna be their front row seat. I 324 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: want to see those matchups. I want to see exactly 325 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: Jonah Williams. You know what he looks like as you 326 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: right tackle Christian Jones. Look, Christian Jones has potential, but 327 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: he's also a fifth round pick from last year who 328 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: didn't see the field a whole bunch his rookie season. 329 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: And let's not forget there are twenty eight draft picks 330 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 3: the last three years. Every single one of them as 331 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: of right now, is still on this roster. That's not 332 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 3: going to be the case a month from now. So 333 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some hard decisions on which draft picks 334 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 3: are going to be on this final fifty three and 335 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: who are not. And it's going to be really competitive, 336 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: and as even JG and all the players have said, 337 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: the real football does not start until the pads come on. 338 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: So for everything we can cite and we think we know, 339 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: you never truly know until it's full speed, full contact, 340 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 3: full pad football. And that starts here in a matter 341 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 3: of what seventy two hours in counting. 342 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: One more weight gain. 343 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: And this is something that we just learned immediately after 344 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: Friday's practice. But talking to second year running back Trey Benson, 345 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: who again a year ago listed at two sixteen, Friday 346 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: morning updated listed at two twenty though he tells the 347 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: media post practice that he's in the range of two 348 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: twenty six to two twenty eight. And again it goes 349 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: back to what you noticed late last season and how 350 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: much Tray Benson started to look and act like James Connor. 351 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you've got similar body types 352 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: and continuing that relationship on and off the field. But 353 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: what does what's year two look like for a Trey 354 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Benson who was all smiles, speaks very confidently, probably a 355 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: one to eighty difference from when we spoke to him 356 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: a year ago. Agree, a little bit unsure, and that's 357 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: to be expected coming in from college, not quite sure 358 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: what the NFL life is like or what it takes 359 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: to be ready on game day. But here he is 360 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: that injury late in the season that kind of derailed 361 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: where he was headed. He looks like he's picking up 362 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: where he left off before the injury and is coming 363 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: in with a lot more confidence and sure of himself, 364 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: maybe sure of his role within this offense. 365 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: It is amazing, and I'm the first one to forget 366 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: that no matter how big a star you are in 367 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: the college game, it's always going to be a transition. 368 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: And it's not just what we see, it's what they're feeling. 369 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: What did Marv tell the media just the other day? 370 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: He said, Yeah, here in year two, I'm quote not 371 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: as nervous and fidgety. I'm a lot more relaxed. I'm calm. 372 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: This is Marvin Harrison junior, who was a first team 373 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: All American and won a national championship at Ohio State, Right, 374 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: I mean think about all that and the acclaim and 375 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: being the son of a Hall of Famer and the 376 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 3: fourth pick overall, and you're still quote nervous in fidgety. 377 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: Trey Benson has been real open about He said, yeah, 378 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: I was anxious to start last year. A lot of 379 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: anxiety I was a little timid, and then he admitted 380 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: when it came to his running style, he was looking 381 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: for the home run all the time, which isn't going 382 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: to happen in the NFL. He just told the media 383 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: moments ago that he had to find out the hard 384 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: way for himself. It's so much faster at the NFL level, 385 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 3: and so even for a guy runs in the four 386 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 3: threes like Trey Benson does. And it still sticks with 387 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: me when you asked him after he was drafted well 388 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 3: about his forty times four to three nine and he 389 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: was unhappy with a four to three nine. He says 390 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: he's more explosive now, even at his heavier weight. And 391 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: I asked him after asking him about his weight, and 392 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: he said he was two twenty six, two twenty eight. 393 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: That's who he's playing at right now. I said, does 394 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: that mean you're more apt to lower the pads tray 395 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: and run through a tackler And he smiled and he said, 396 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: oh yeah. And there's no doubt that is rubbed off 397 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: on his game from James Connor. James Connor confirmed as much. 398 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: Trey Benson has confirmed as much. You know, those last 399 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: two or three games we saw of him. He was 400 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: a different running back. Unfortunately, I had the ankle injury 401 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: and it curtailed the end of his season. But man, 402 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: you know, I've been struggling to find an offensive player 403 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: for the Paul Pickskin breakout player at Camp Craig and 404 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, really, it really violates some 405 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: of the rules. It's supposed to be an undrafted rookie 406 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: or a Day three pick, a new com rookie. I've settle. 407 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna break news here for you. I've settled my 408 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: poly Pigskin breakout player at Camp on the defensive side 409 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: of the ball, ninety six Elijah Simmons, six to one, 410 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: listed at three thirty five, the nose tackle out of Tennessee. 411 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: Really didn't start that many games at Tennessee. This guy 412 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 3: is a complete unknown, but there are a lot of 413 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: expectations that, especially now with some of the injuries on 414 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 3: the d line Blaw Nichols, Walter Nole in the third, 415 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: he's gonna get a lot more opportunities and he's gonna 416 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: seize the day, seize the moment. So I got Elijah 417 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 3: Simmons ninety six is my defensive breakout player at Camp 418 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: year ago. I had Xavier Thomas and I had Xavier Weaver. 419 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 3: I'm half inclined to go Xavier Weaver for a second 420 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: year because I think he's gonna bust out again. Just 421 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: take the next step. Last year was make the roster. 422 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 3: Now I think he's gonna make an impact. I haven't 423 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: quite decided on that just yet, but Trey Benson is 424 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: intriguing because I think by the time we're done with camp, 425 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of people in a lot 426 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: of fantasy football drafts who are like, Wow, I should 427 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: have taken number thirty three. He has looked good so far, 428 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: and I think once the pads go on, people are 429 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: gonna find out he is a different dude and one 430 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: of a million lists in the offseason they had the 431 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: best one to two punches at running back and they'd 432 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: even make like the top ten. I think this time 433 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: a year from now, the whole James Connor Trey Benson 434 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: will be a top five one to two punch at 435 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: running back, not unlike a David Montgomery and a Jumior 436 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: Gibbs with the Detroit Lions. 437 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: Haven't seen it yet, at least I haven't seen it 438 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: yet here at training camp. But to that point, again, 439 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: it's about getting your best eleven on the field. How 440 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 1: often do we see both James and Trey on the field, 441 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: Not again, not for abundance of snaps, but a couple 442 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: of times a game or a half or whatever, and 443 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: whether they're sharing the backfield or then one splits out wide. 444 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: Because that was the other thing that I've noticed, and 445 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: this is in Harrison to Cliff Kingsbury, where it was 446 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: always four wide, five wide, and it was true four 447 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers, five wide receivers. Within this Drew Petsing offense, 448 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: we don't see a lot of four wide, but when 449 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: we do, it's three wide receivers and a tight end, 450 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: whether that's Trey McBride, Elijah Higgins, Tip Riman. Could you 451 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: still go four wide? But now you have. 452 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: James Connor, Trey Benson. Yep, so you have It still. 453 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: Counts as a you know, a ten personnel, but it's 454 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: not your traditional ten personnel because right now, the strength 455 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: and what this offense is is run first and great 456 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: running backs and great tight ends. But it doesn't have 457 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: to be the traditional hand in the dirt running back 458 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: and tight end. Utilize them as pass catchers. 459 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: Well, what is the most underrated part of James Connor's game. 460 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: I would answer that by saying his pass catching. How 461 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: many ridiculous one handed catcher has he made in his 462 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 3: Cardinals career. I mean, you need two hands to count 463 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: how many ridiculous one handed catches he has made. So 464 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: to your point, and I like it if you're going 465 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: with more two back sets and then all of a sudden, 466 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: James Connor is the back in motion who goes into 467 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: the slot or we've seen James Connor even go you know, 468 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: out wide into an X receiver position. So if they're 469 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: thinking to themselves, you know what, that's an underutilized part 470 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: of his game and our offense. We're gonna get the 471 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: ball in the air more often to James Connor, especially 472 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 3: where you can get ahead of steam and truck a 473 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: defender or or make someone miss. He's so impossible to 474 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: bring down in first contact. I'm with you on that, 475 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: and you're right. I mean I don't even necessarily look 476 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 3: at it any more like four receivers and a tight 477 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: end or a back I just think empty or not empty, 478 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: empty backfield or not. And if you're empty backfield, it 479 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: can be any variety. Two to three receivers, two three 480 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: tight ends, running backs and you know like a James 481 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 3: Connor and Mario de Mercado has been utilizing that a 482 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: little bit. So I think it's all on the table, 483 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: and combined with what Trey McBride tipped us off to 484 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: in the offseason about more motion, I mean, if you're looking, 485 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: if you're asking for an observation I've had so far, 486 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: and there hasn't been a lot of eleven on eleven, 487 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: but even in the seven on seven drills, you've seen 488 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: some of the cheap motions they've used for receivers, some 489 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: of the you know, right before the snap, all of 490 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: a sudden, somebody gets moving, not onlike the Dolphins did 491 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: a year ago, a Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. You 492 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: saw Cooper Cup utilize that way at times where you 493 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: know McVeigh was really good with that. Sometimes you saw 494 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba you know, some of those cheap 495 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: motions right before the snap, they're just on the move 496 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: laterally and then boom, it gives them that extra half 497 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: or one or two steps and they're often running and 498 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: it can be really effective. And so for a Marvin 499 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: Harrison junior, for example, Craig and we know some of 500 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: the analytics last year said that he was among the 501 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: receivers who was in motion the least of anybody in 502 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: the NFL. So if you're thinking, okay, how can we 503 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: get a little more separation from Marv in year two? 504 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: I think those sort of quick motions like that could 505 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: be a really effective addition to the offense. 506 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Here's the stat on Marvin per next Gen stats. MHJ 507 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: ran just seven routes after going in motion all season long, 508 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: only remarkable. Only eight receivers had fewer, and most were 509 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: part time players. So again, is it going to look 510 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: drastically different year two to year three of this offense? 511 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: Probably not, but how it's displayed to the defense might 512 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: look a lot different. As far as that motion coming 513 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: across or the cheap motion that I remember when that 514 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 1: was utilized by the Rams and Sean McVay, that became 515 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: a talking point across the league because hey, that's a 516 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: false start they're getting off the line of scrimmage before 517 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: the ball is snapped. Well, there was a loophole somewhere, 518 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: and now maybe the Cardinals are picking it up because 519 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: they've got players who can handle it. In year two, year, three, year, four, 520 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: and it might be a little bit different. But again, 521 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, ten to eleven personnel, 522 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: they just pay attention to who's split wide, not the 523 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: individual you're listed as a wide receiver, running back or 524 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: tight end. But again it goes back to the numbers game. 525 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: Why a year ago they kept six wide receivers, could 526 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: you keep one less? Because you're not going to have 527 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: as many wide receiver four wide receiver sets. That fourth 528 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver is going to be a running back or 529 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: a tight end. 530 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely, especially with Elijah Higgins. I think you know a 531 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: former receiver who flashed at times. He had a really 532 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: good offseason. I think they're expecting more out of him. 533 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: Tip Briman is deserving of some more targets in the 534 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: past game. By the way, in today's practice, Trey McBride 535 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: made two ridiculous catches in traffic. 536 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: Just excellent. 537 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: I mean, he's already in regular season four. Not a 538 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 3: total surprise. I did ask him, by the way, a 539 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: tight end, you did you see Taylor Swift and he 540 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: smiled and nodded, So, okay, that's a plus, you know. 541 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like the only performance she's had since 542 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 3: a record breaking concert tour. So there was a you know, 543 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: the Cardinals three tight ends or front center for that one. 544 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: So I guess that's winning the offseason right there. But yeah, 545 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: I'm perfectly fine putting eighty five and bubble wrap right 546 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: now and just getting him ready for Week one at 547 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 3: New Orleans. But I'm with you, any any formula, any 548 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 3: combination of personnel, Craig that gets the Cardinals at least 549 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: at least in the upper half of chunk throws. We've 550 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: talked about this. Cardinals were top five a year ago 551 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: in chunk runs. They were in the bottom fourth of 552 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: the league when it comes to explosive pass plays, So 553 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: how can they That is to me the biggest addition 554 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: that is necessary to this offense. We can talk about 555 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: more motion, and you can talk about you know, personnel, 556 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: more two back sets, that's great, but I think you 557 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: have to make defenses pay downfield with the passing game 558 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: more than you did a year ago. That to me 559 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: is op Number one. 560 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: This year. 561 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: We did see a couple of deep shots on Friday's practice, 562 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: and again kind of was it underthrown or they running 563 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: full speed and the DB's can't really contest right now, 564 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: they're not in pads. But I go back to Okay, 565 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: maybe it's not so many deep shots, but more based 566 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: off some of the weight game breaking tackles, or an 567 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: eight yard catch is now fifteen yards because you broke 568 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: a tackle and its yards after catch. Maybe not the 569 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: air yards that you're gonna see Kyler Murray throw, because 570 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: now you're stretching the field because no one can catch 571 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: am hj or James Connor or Trey Benson because they 572 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: broke so many tackles and are getting to the second 573 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: and third levels on a more consistent basis than they 574 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: were all of last season. 575 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: Look Trey McBride at a very underwhelming rookie year. You 576 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: could almost say he was timid, maybe even intimidated a 577 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: little bit. The best case scenario is that Marvin Ierson 578 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 3: Junior follows this same career arc as Trey McBride and 579 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: not only did he unlock his athleticism and did you 580 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: see what a ridiculous athlete Trey McBride is. All you 581 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: have to do is look at the fact he had 582 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: the two hand dunk and mac Wilson's basketball game and 583 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: he's going yard in the Kyler softball game. I mean 584 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: he's just a phenomenal athlete. You see the athleticism. But 585 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: once he got confident in the notion that he belonged 586 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: in the NFL, well, now all of a sudden, he 587 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: started lowering the pads and lowering the boom on dudes. 588 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: And Marvin Errison Junior has every capability of doing the same. 589 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: And hopefully this is just me. Hopefully he's been following 590 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 3: the top one hundred and he's noticed that the three 591 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: receivers drafted after him all made the NFL's top one hundred. 592 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: That would be Malik Neighbors, Brian Thomas Jr. That would 593 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: be Lad McConkie, And he's every bit as talented as 594 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: those guys. So now, all of a sudden, guess what 595 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: it's time to let it rip? Not like Trey McBride 596 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 3: did starting halfway through his second year. 597 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: In the league. 598 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: And we hear it all the time, and we heard 599 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: it from GM Monty Austin Ford earlier on Friday, quote, 600 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: there's no bigger jump a player can make than from 601 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: year one to year two. And I know Marvin gets 602 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: a lot of that, but that entire twenty twenty four 603 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: draft class, what kind of a leap is there for 604 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: all of those guys, because if there is now, all 605 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got a twenty twenty four we 606 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: got a twenty twenty four draft class, twenty twenty five 607 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: draft class that now, all of a sudden, you've got 608 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: that core, that new foundation if you will, to build 609 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: upon and then hopefully again that equates to wins and 610 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: playoff appearances, meaning plural moving forward. 611 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt when we get to the end 612 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: of this season, and we're only three days into this season, 613 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: I think that's going to absolutely be one of the keys. 614 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: What kind of return on investment did you get out 615 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: of last year's draft class? Darius Robinson, Marvin Harrison, Junior, 616 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: Trey Benson, even Rabbit is getting a lot of snaps, 617 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: a lot of you know, he's being featured quite a bit. 618 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: So you're gonna see all these guys, and then you 619 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: look at this year's draft class. Is Hayden Connor are 620 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: going to compete from a Day three pick along that 621 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: offensive line and then eventually Walter Nole in the third. 622 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: It was interesting to hear Kalais Campbell say his advice 623 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: to Walt would be take your time. He said, we 624 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: already know what you can do. It's interesting players, No 625 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: players Kalayis Campbell didn't need much, didn't even need full 626 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: pads to know. Yeah, kids talented. Just make sure when 627 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 3: you're good to go, they it'll you can sustain it 628 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: for the entirety of this season. And that's the luxury 629 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 3: now being so much deeper along the defensive line is 630 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: that you know what a ball Nickels and a Walter 631 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: Nole in the third Okay, they're not available right now. 632 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: Not necessarily a critical deal because you do have enough 633 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: depth and there's enough competition. But I'm with you, Craig. 634 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: There's look, they tore down this roster. There's only three 635 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: draft picks from the forder previous draft classes left before 636 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: Manti Austin Ford, and so they have invested and this 637 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 3: is where it needs to start paying off. And and 638 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: that's that's how you sustain a winning team for years 639 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: to come. If that draft class ends up being the platform, 640 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: the foundation upon which you are building. 641 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you build teams. You build teams through 642 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: the draft, not through free agency. And so far again 643 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: knock on wood, but three off seasons worth of work, 644 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: that's what you're seeing out of Manti Austin Ford. And 645 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: to your point you mentioned it earlier, every single draft 646 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: pick that money has made is on this roster. Now 647 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: that's the ninety man roster. You're going to see all 648 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: those names on the fifty three man roster. Most likely not, 649 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: but guys do wind up on the practice squad and 650 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: then young players develop and get off the practice squad 651 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: onto the active roster. So again something to pay attention 652 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: to is you whittle down from ninety to fifty three. 653 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: There was before we had in here another I. 654 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: Wouldn't say as scary as Thursday, but there was once 655 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: again on Friday, late in practice, Darling Thomas had to 656 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: be carted off the field, jumped up to make a 657 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: play on the ball, landed hard and all of a 658 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: sudden the music stops playing. And once again for the 659 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: third straight day, and I include Wednesday when JG announced 660 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: Walter Nolan the third was going to not be available. 661 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: But the air get sucked out of the room and 662 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 1: it would appear based off how Starr was carted off 663 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: and Moni went over to dab him up. We think 664 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: he's going to be okay, But again, you never like 665 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: to see the cart come out on the football field 666 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: and take a player off. 667 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 4: And that was just happening to be right in front 668 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: of me. That was the sideline I was on. 669 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: And yeah, I fear the worst at the beginning, just 670 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: based on his reactions Starling Thomas, But by the time 671 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: they were carting him off, he didn't seem to be 672 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: in a better place. And the fact that he got 673 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 3: up under his own power and got onto the cart 674 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 3: on his own hopefully knock on wood, that bodes well. 675 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: But he'd been playing some good football. I mean, he's 676 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: in he's such a smart guy, a to attach himself 677 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: to Buddha Baker from almost day one upon his arrival. 678 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: But you know the fact that he's out there and 679 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: he's pushing everyone else in that secondary and just the 680 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 3: competitive fire. And he had made a play the day 681 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 3: before knocking breaking up a pass and knocking it away. 682 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: So we'll see. 683 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: But once again they you know, my eye has also 684 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: been going to Elijah Jones, the round three pick from 685 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: a year ago, because he's maybe the biggest unknown in 686 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 3: camp right now, especially for a guy who's taken on 687 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: day two a year ago. 688 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 4: What's he all about? 689 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: So we'll see in a roundabout way Okay, Starling Thomas 690 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 3: needs some time to get back, all right, but you 691 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: know there's gonna be key troll. Clark got a shout 692 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: out from Jonathan Enning before the practice. Is having a 693 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 3: good day two of Cardinals camp. So you know, from 694 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 3: top to bottom, you know as interested as we are. 695 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 3: And that three headed monster to play will linebacker next 696 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 3: to Mac Wilson Senior. In terms of just number of 697 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: guys versus number of spots available, that cornerback room is 698 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: about as contested as it gets on this team. 699 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 4: Right now. 700 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: You've got eleven on the roster. How many do you keep? 701 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: And again I never include Garrett Williams as part of 702 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: that conversation. Yes he's listed as a corner, but he's 703 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: always gonna be on the field, whether he's the outside corner, 704 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: which we've seen a couple of times through these first 705 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: two open practices when it's just two corners on the field, 706 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: or he moves inside when they've got three corners. 707 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: On the field. 708 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: And that again, and all of a sudden you got 709 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams. 710 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 3: Max Meltin, Okay, stop right there, Max Melton, just I 711 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: don't know what you've heard, but in talking to some 712 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 3: people who have been watching practice, people. 713 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 4: In the know. 714 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: I mean, if you made me forecast and make a 715 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 3: prediction right now, I'd say Garrett Williams absolutely a starter. 716 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 3: Max Melton right now starting cornerback to me. The battle 717 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 3: is for the spot opposite Max Melton. But that's just 718 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 3: the vibe I get right now. We haven't put the 719 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: pads on, but they really like the leap, the jump 720 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: that Maximelton has made since the end of last year. 721 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: He flashed in those last couple of games, had some 722 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 3: nice pass breakups in week seventeen at the Rams, So 723 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: I think and just watching maximelt and the way he's interacting, 724 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: you can tell he's sort of like a trade bench. 725 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: It's sort like a Marvin Arrison junior. He's more comfortable, 726 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: he's definitely more confident. 727 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, another one of those guys. Part of that year 728 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: one to year two jump. And again, what did you 729 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: learn in year one that you can apply in year 730 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: two to where you might be a little bit ahead 731 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: of everyone else that's coming at you from behind. So again, 732 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: three days in two open practices. Team will take Saturday off. 733 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: Sunday is another practice. It is closed to the public, 734 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: open to season ticket holders. I know that's a big 735 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: deal because Paul will be a part of all that 736 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: for those season ticket holders that will be out here 737 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: at State Farm Stadium. We'll have to wait and see 738 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: because what Paul looks like now may not be what 739 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: he looks like on Sunday. Because here we are three 740 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: days into camp and we got a bunch of retirement 741 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: announcements this week from Tyron Matthew, Jordan Hicks, Justin Pugh 742 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: earlier on Friday calling it quits, but the mustache has 743 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: not been retired as a Friday, July twenty fifth. Yeah, 744 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: well two words, tick talk. It's just a matter of time. 745 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see if it makes it for Sunday. And Craig, 746 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: let's not over inflate my role. My job is to 747 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: get the microphone to the playmakers, to the decision makers. 748 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: That's what I'll be doing. So let's keep them on 749 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: camera and I'll just be over there playing the MC 750 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: the role of the narrator, if you will, up on stage. 751 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: But it was interesting to hear Kalis Campbell echo some 752 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: of our thoughts on Tyron Matthew. I'll just leave you 753 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: with this when Kalais said he's the only player he 754 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: ever saw that he was one of the best guys 755 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: on the field the first day he was on the field. 756 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: And I remember that like it was yesterday, that first 757 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: rookie mini camper. Oh yes, it was just a straight 758 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: mini camp where the veterans were there and they second field, 759 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: second field. 760 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: We were not privy to it. And you remember it 761 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: as well, And the veterans came off shaking their head 762 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 3: and there was a palpable buzz that, oh boy, we 763 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: got a playmaker, that round three kid, Tyron Matthew. He 764 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 3: is a player and it was really really interesting to 765 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 3: hear Kalayas Campbell echoed that memory, just like like we 766 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: had recollected. 767 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: Tip the cap to Tyron, to Jordan Hicks and Justin 768 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: Pugh as well, all three good cardinals and more importantly, 769 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: all three good people. And selfishly, Paul and you can 770 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: speak to this as well. Three good guys to deal 771 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: with in the locker room, win or lose, and more 772 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: likely than that, you want those guys you can go 773 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: to after a loss. Some guys are better at it 774 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: than others. Well, I just name three players who are 775 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: good no matter the situation. 776 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: Well, the first step is to make yourself available, don't 777 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 3: be in the showers of the training room after a loss. 778 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 3: And those guys were always present, accounted for and account 779 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 3: of bowl. And you know, Koalis said it about Tyron 780 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: and and I think we both echo it as well, 781 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 3: having covered him, just how honest he was with the media, 782 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 3: and Bruce Arians called him his favorite draft pick ever 783 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: and said the Cardinals never would have drafted him if 784 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 3: he would have blamed anyone else for what happened at LSU, 785 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 3: But he said he had to get better. He was 786 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: at fault, and that's when they knew, Okay, he's got 787 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 3: a chance. And I said it in a tweet and 788 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 3: I'll say it again. He's one of the He's the 789 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 3: one of the top three most memorable Cardinals players I 790 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 3: think I'll ever cover. And he was just so insightful, 791 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 3: so raw, so honest with all of us, and such 792 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: a joy to watch. I mean, he was just so 793 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 3: instinctive and the ability to play like he did, and 794 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 3: then just the innate athleticism he brought to the yield. 795 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: If it wasn't for that second knee injury, he would 796 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,439 Speaker 3: be a surefire Hall of Famer right now. 797 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: Well said first week of training Camp twenty twenty five, 798 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: presented by Desert Financial is in the books again. Team 799 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: will have Saturday off, back on the field on Sunday, 800 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: a closed practice open to season ticket holders of the 801 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: NFL Network will be here on Sunday, so if you 802 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: want to get some highlights. It is back together weekend 803 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: around the NFL Saturday and Sunday, and then the pads 804 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: come on Monday the twenty eighth. It is another open practice. 805 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: For a complete list of all the open practices and 806 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: how to attend, good Aisycardinals dot com. Reminder that parking 807 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: and admission are both free. You do need to register 808 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: get that digital ticket to come in and watch that 809 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: first padded practice on Monday, July twenty eighth. And on 810 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition 811 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by Yundai, proud partner of 812 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our EXEUS 813 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: Kid producer Jim mo Monro, our associate producer Coddy Pincher. 814 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig rail Lou. We'll talk to 815 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.