Speaker 1: Hey there everyone, and welcome back to the Betting Pros
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Dan Harris. You can find me on Twitter at Dan
Speaker 1: Harris Ady. It is time for our early look at
Speaker 1: next week's lines. And with me to break it all
Speaker 1: down is Jason Logan, the senior managing editor for Covers.
Speaker 1: You can find him on Twitter at Covers j Loo. Jason,
Speaker 1: thanks again for coming on the show. How's it going.
Speaker 2: It's going pretty well? Pretty well? How about yourself?
Speaker 1: Not bad? How was week five for you? Out of
Speaker 1: curiosity in the betting department?
Speaker 2: Week five, I went a little lighter in week five.
Speaker 2: Week four was not so good. Yeah, week Week five
Speaker 2: was a little hit and miss. But I'm waiting on
Speaker 2: the Browns to come through tonight.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're recording this shortly before kickoff, so
Speaker 1: let's see if we can get you there so you
Speaker 1: can enjoy the game.
Speaker 2: I have a TVD yell asto.
Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. We'll move you in
Speaker 1: and out real quick. All right, So Jason and I
Speaker 1: are going to go through each game here on the slate.
Speaker 1: For week six, we're going to be using the consensus
Speaker 1: odds over at betting pros dot Com. That's just an
Speaker 1: aggregation of the odds that are available on the market.
Speaker 1: As always, there are going to be differences at the
Speaker 1: various sports books, so make sure you shop around for
Speaker 1: the best odds, and also if you want to see
Speaker 1: how some of the top sports betting experts are leaning
Speaker 1: on any given bet at any given time, bettingpros dot
Speaker 1: Com is going to show you that too. All right, Jason,
Speaker 1: let's dive right in here with the Giants against the
Speaker 1: Patriots on Thursday night. Right now, I've seen the spread
Speaker 1: move all the way up to seventeen. I checked earlier
Speaker 1: today it was about sixteen and a half, and the
Speaker 1: over under down to forty two and a half, down
Speaker 1: from forty four and a half. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: seen anything on whether or not Sequon Barkley is actually
Speaker 1: going to play, but it does sound like Sterling Shepherd's
Speaker 1: probably going to miss this game. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that accounts for the move. But what do you think
Speaker 1: about the line?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're down to what they're third string
Speaker 2: running back.
Speaker 1: Right now, John Hilleman, I believe is that it.
Speaker 2: Who knows at that point. Barkley wasn't Pats proxicing last week.
Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are kind of superheroes and the
Speaker 2: way they can come back. But this one's moved though
Speaker 2: almost a field goal. Since the opener. Some of the
Speaker 2: look ahead lines had minus fourteen, now up to minus seventeen.
Speaker 2: It's it's again it's that Belichick versus rookie QB. So
Speaker 2: I think, if I have my numbers correct, Patriots versus
Speaker 2: rookie QB's at home under Belichick. So that since two
Speaker 2: thy eleven and no straight up seven and four against the.
Speaker 1: Spread, Okay, well that's certainly something that pour ten's good
Speaker 1: things for the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The one thing is the Patriots are dealing with, you know,
Speaker 1: some minor injuries to themselves. You know, Philip dor said
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's a minor ankle injury. Rex burg
Speaker 1: Head may again miss his game. They start out kind
Speaker 1: of slow, oddly enough against the Redskins, right, they didn't
Speaker 1: look great, and then they wound up you know, and
Speaker 1: I know because I live in New England, so my
Speaker 1: entire my in laws were not happy. And I'm like
Speaker 1: watching the Jets get destroyed by the Eagles. So it's
Speaker 1: not a happy Sunday for me, but yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's at you know, Thursday games.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much more this is going to
Speaker 1: move at this point, but certainly, and the over under
Speaker 1: is dropped by at least when I checked it earlier,
Speaker 1: by two points as well. So it sounds like they
Speaker 1: seem to do you have do you see any value
Speaker 1: right now? In the early life it's seventeen or forty
Speaker 1: two and a half or is that about where it is?
Speaker 2: Boy? I mean is yeah, that's a tough one. I mean,
Speaker 2: if if you got that early the fourteen, good anya.
Speaker 2: But now that it's moving up, I mean I expect
Speaker 2: it to probably move up. I'm not the only one
Speaker 2: that's going to spit off these Belichick sort of stats,
Speaker 2: and everyone's going to play into that. And if Saquon
Speaker 2: Barkley doesn't play, I think that's probably worth another half point,
Speaker 2: you know, as the public kind of jumps on that too.
Speaker 2: So I mean, seventeen seventeen is still I mean, if
Speaker 2: you want to do the football mask stella, seventeen is
Speaker 2: still kind of a key number. So to say that
Speaker 2: it might be value to get the Pats at minus seventeen.
Speaker 2: Right now, it seems funny coming out of my mouth,
Speaker 2: but it might actually be the right play. However, like
Speaker 2: you said, they started slow. Brady didn't look good against
Speaker 2: the Bills. He didn't look great against the first half
Speaker 2: here against the There was the Jets last week. Correct, No, sorry,
Speaker 2: never Redskins, Redskins. It might yeah, it could have been anyway.
Speaker 1: Man, the Redskins, the Jets, the Dolphins, all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ring them on. That's right. The Redskins start off
Speaker 2: slow and then they but they make those second half
Speaker 2: a job. It was more Sony Michelle than anything. So
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to say, well, okay, maybe
Speaker 2: they stick with Sony Michelle, maybe they stick with the
Speaker 2: run game, then it doesn't a lot for that amount
Speaker 2: of points to be scored to cover the spread. But
Speaker 2: we've seen this defense do work too, so this defense
Speaker 2: can put up points as well too. So now that
Speaker 2: it is seventeen and knowing that it is a short
Speaker 2: week and probably you don't want to rush back Saquon
Speaker 2: Barkley from a high ankle spring, yeah, the Pats minus
Speaker 2: seventeen might be as good as it gets right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if I were going to make a
Speaker 1: play at this point, it would be on the Pats.
Speaker 1: If anything, I think it might move I guess possibly
Speaker 1: a little higher. But this is probably in my mind
Speaker 1: where it's can settle and if I'm forced to bet
Speaker 1: some way, it's probably on the Patriots. But these big lines, man,
Speaker 1: I hate them. You know the fact that this is
Speaker 1: just every week you're going to get these these monstrous lines,
Speaker 1: Well just in a parody, I know, I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well a little more parody here with our next game
Speaker 1: in London Panthers versus Buccaneers. I actually did not realize,
Speaker 1: so you told me before we started recording that this
Speaker 1: is unlike this past week with the Raiders and the Bears,
Speaker 1: this is actually going to be at nine to third,
Speaker 1: which just makes me happy because it's all day Sunday football.
Speaker 1: The Panthers here are laying two and a half. The
Speaker 1: first time I looked it was at one and a half.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the look head line was, but
Speaker 1: when I looked at it early, I think last night
Speaker 1: it was at Panthers laying one and a half. They're
Speaker 1: laying two and a half now and it's moved the
Speaker 1: over under up two points from forty six and a
Speaker 1: half to forty eight and a half. This is that
Speaker 1: rough stretch here for the Bucks. This is basically their
Speaker 1: third straight road game, even though they're right, even though
Speaker 1: they're the home I don't I don't think they play
Speaker 1: a home game until Week ten.
Speaker 2: I believe the Bucks and the Raiders are kind of
Speaker 2: on that same yeah highway to hell. It's like forty
Speaker 2: nine days without a home game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Panthers, I mean they've they've kind of righted
Speaker 1: the ship a bit here with you know, Kyle Allen,
Speaker 1: who's kind of, you know, relative more accurate than Cam
Speaker 1: Newton was. Christian McCaffrey not a normal human being.
Speaker 2: So it has two working legs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that helps, that is So how do you feel here,
Speaker 1: Panthers laying two and a half at the moment over
Speaker 1: under forty eight and a half?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is kind of Tampa Bay's run defense, which
Speaker 2: is a giving up only three point one yards per
Speaker 2: carries versus McCaffrey. And this might as well be the
Speaker 2: Carolina McCaffrey's because that's how this guy has put the
Speaker 2: team on his shoulder. But they did a good job
Speaker 2: against McCaffrey in week two. I mean, this is kind
Speaker 2: of a this is a rematch, a rare rematch already, right,
Speaker 2: thirty seven yards on sixteen carries in Week two. The
Speaker 2: Panthers defense looked good against Minshew there last week, got
Speaker 2: some pressure on him, forced some fumbles. They have twenty
Speaker 2: sacks on the season. The Bucks allowed eighteen sacks already
Speaker 2: this year. We know that that Jameis Winston isn't the
Speaker 2: best decision maker when under pressure, so I could see
Speaker 2: why the line has swung such a such so much.
Speaker 2: I've seen it open around a pick yep. But like
Speaker 2: you said, three three road games in three weeks for
Speaker 2: this Bucks team is that's tough. And then you've got
Speaker 2: to go across the pond, and that's just a whole
Speaker 2: it's a whole other Hornets mess. There's so much, so
Speaker 2: many logistics and everything behind those I hate.
Speaker 1: I hate betting on Bucks games, I really do. You
Speaker 1: don't know what which Jamis Winston is going to show up, right, and.
Speaker 2: Then that's exactly what happened last week, exactly looked Terri
Speaker 2: Well on Sunday the week before. He was a golden
Speaker 2: fantasy gods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, I mean I think for me, right now,
Speaker 1: I'd probably lean towards the Panthers, but it's just not
Speaker 1: a game that I feel comfortable with. I like them
Speaker 1: in that first game. I think they were laying six
Speaker 1: and a half and they would have won that game,
Speaker 1: maybe not covering the spread, had Newton basically been able
Speaker 1: to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: I'm with you on these early games. I love the
Speaker 2: English thinglsh brought breakfast games, right, Bengers and beans and
Speaker 2: the eggs and.
Speaker 1: Toasts absolutely can't go wrong. Let's move on here to
Speaker 1: Texans and Chiefs. This one you've seen a load of
Speaker 1: movement in. I mean I checked last night, so I
Speaker 1: don't even know what the look aheadline was, but last
Speaker 1: night the consensus odes were minus eight. Right now it's
Speaker 1: all the way down to minus five. Now, I get
Speaker 1: you've got some issues here with the Chiefs after last night.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes dealing with the ankle injury. It doesn't it's
Speaker 1: obviously not going to keep him out or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but it's limiting him. Sammy Watkins now dealing with a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury on top of the shoulder. Chris Jones suffered
Speaker 1: a groin strain and is going to miss the games.
Speaker 1: Davier Williams sprained his ankle. He might play. Maybe Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill comes back. Meanwhile, the Texans put up a big
Speaker 1: number over beating down on the Falcons. How do you
Speaker 1: feel here? Chiefs now minus five over under still high
Speaker 1: fifty five and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, this one had to move off of
Speaker 2: sharp money because it was eight around noon today. It
Speaker 2: was still like eight seven and a half and then boom,
Speaker 2: instantly within I think within a half an hour, dropped
Speaker 2: to five. So that's that's big play coming in kind
Speaker 2: of you know, hedging those injuries. Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 2: want to get ahead of the get ahead of those injuries.
Speaker 2: And could this be, you know, the betting public falling
Speaker 2: out of favor with Kansas City. They had a tough
Speaker 2: game in Detroit, didn't cover there and then they get
Speaker 2: rolled by the Colts. And it may be that you
Speaker 2: look at what the Lions and the Colts did, did
Speaker 2: they build the blueprint for beating the Chiefs? And I
Speaker 2: talked about it today with Patrick Eeverson, who's our senior
Speaker 2: writer in Las Vegas, and said that with this Chiefs defense,
Speaker 2: you know they're bad, you know they're going to give
Speaker 2: up yards, but you can't if you if you're the offense,
Speaker 2: you can't be too greedy that you just blow through
Speaker 2: them and then give the ball back to my homes.
Speaker 2: And that's what the that's what the Lions and Colts
Speaker 2: have done. They've been really really thoughtical with it. The
Speaker 2: Detroit ran one hundred and eighty six yards on thirty
Speaker 2: five carries. Time of possession was almost thirty four minutes,
Speaker 2: and then the Colts ran one hundred and eighty yards
Speaker 2: on forty five carries. Time of possession was over thirty
Speaker 2: seven minutes.
Speaker 1: You know, the problem though, is that the Texans aren't
Speaker 1: really built to run an offense like that, right, I
Speaker 1: mean they don't have I mean they have, you know,
Speaker 1: they have success running the ball so far generally speaking
Speaker 1: with Hyde and Duke Johnson. But they're they're the type
Speaker 1: of team that you know, you turn around, then you
Speaker 1: come back and you know, Deshaun Watson's you know, busted
Speaker 1: off a fifty yard run or he's throwing them you know, right,
Speaker 1: So it's it's almost like an odd you know, way
Speaker 1: to attack them. But this really, I mean, with their injuries,
Speaker 1: this is really something that's going to be interesting. I know,
Speaker 1: they lost yesterday. But Arrowhead, of course, is still a
Speaker 1: difficult place to play. Do you think it's a godly
Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to drop lower than minus
Speaker 1: five or is this basically where you expect? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, five being that dead number, and they've
Speaker 2: already just blown through so many key numbers. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's going to come down too much further than this.
Speaker 2: I mean, so it goes through seven and a half
Speaker 2: and seven and six and a half, and so five
Speaker 2: seems to be that dead number, that's safe number right
Speaker 2: now until they get some more until they get some
Speaker 2: more information. Yeah. I need to remember too that usually
Speaker 2: limits at the sports books are a little bit lower
Speaker 2: earlier in the week when they open these odds. So
Speaker 2: I mean, while it is sharp money coming in, they
Speaker 2: they may be okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty dramatic move, you know, at
Speaker 1: least for me. I know you've been doing this for
Speaker 1: a while, but three points this early, right off the bat,
Speaker 1: especially when there are these limits coming on, It kind
Speaker 1: of shocked me to see it go three points without
Speaker 1: the major injury, you know, to a major offensive lineman
Speaker 1: or someone like Mahomes. So I was a little bit
Speaker 1: surprised on this one. All right, Jason, Let's move on
Speaker 1: to our next game, Seahawks at the Browns. Browns are
Speaker 1: laying two and a half and the over under is
Speaker 1: at forty seven. So we're recording this before I guess
Speaker 1: the Browns game has just started, so we don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen tonight. But I was a little
Speaker 1: bit surprised about this one. Just the Browns have looked
Speaker 1: a little disjointed. I know, they looked good last week
Speaker 1: against the Ravens, but the Seahawks have looked pretty strong.
Speaker 1: I mean they, you know, not great. They have their
Speaker 1: defense has been a little leaky, but certainly the offense
Speaker 1: has been great. So I honestly expected this to be
Speaker 1: closer to maybe like a pick them. I know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter that much when you're below sort of the
Speaker 1: key number of three, but I'm a little bit surprised
Speaker 1: here by the Browns laying two and a half and
Speaker 1: the over under at forty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean, there's still a lot to
Speaker 2: be said here with the Monday night game. There were
Speaker 2: a lot of positives coming out of Cleveland here over
Speaker 2: the last two games, even the last three games, the
Speaker 2: defense starting to really pick up, starting to get stingy,
Speaker 2: fantastic special teams really pinning teams back. They've got that
Speaker 2: strapping Scottish punter pinning guys way back in the ends.
Speaker 2: I've giving the defense a good helping hand as well too.
Speaker 2: But like you said, this one's still up in the air.
Speaker 2: But you know they're back home after two straight on
Speaker 2: the road. They had played i believe, three road games
Speaker 2: in four weeks, so a tough stretch to get to
Speaker 2: come back home, and you know, give this crowd what
Speaker 2: they've been waiting for for a long time now. Seattle, though,
Speaker 2: doing a lot of things right, limiting opponents on third downs.
Speaker 2: I think twenty nine percent of the last three games
Speaker 2: time of possession. They're chewing up the clock, they're running
Speaker 2: the football, they're not giving away the ball too. They
Speaker 2: got five takeaways. Russell Wilson no interceptions. He's probably the
Speaker 2: most It depends on where you're betting and if you're
Speaker 2: a Seahawks fan or not, but he's probably the most
Speaker 2: annoying player to watch if you're betting against him, because
Speaker 2: there's so many times in which you're cheering your mid
Speaker 2: cheer for a sack and all of a sudden, Wilson
Speaker 2: slips out. I mean, he's playing, he's he's earning all
Speaker 2: that money, he's playing out at MVP caliber right now. Again,
Speaker 2: there's so much to be left to be said here
Speaker 2: for Cleveland Monday night. But yeah, Seattle just looks really,
Speaker 2: really good right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and really one of the reasons why I was
Speaker 1: surprised is you know that the Browns are playing right now,
Speaker 1: it's Monday night. It's going to be a short week. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Seattle is basically playing off a mini bi here where
Speaker 1: they played on Thursday, so they have extra rest. And
Speaker 1: yet to your point about Wilson at one, correct, I
Speaker 1: mean to throw the touchdown there that you got it
Speaker 1: on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Not I wasn't even that wasn't upset and I had
Speaker 2: the Rams. I had the Rams plus two, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't he been upset. I was like, that's pretty damn nice. Bro.
Speaker 1: Well you wind up winning anyway, so that's all good.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well we'll see what happens. I think it's
Speaker 1: probably going to depend on tonight's game, because again, if
Speaker 1: the Browns come out and they look really strong again,
Speaker 1: then then things have probably changed and maybe that that
Speaker 1: line's correct.
Speaker 2: And I think the line is set kind of where
Speaker 2: it can move right now. Sure off of that, so
Speaker 2: if they have a bad performance, so they can kind
Speaker 2: of maybe ticket down. If they look good, it can
Speaker 2: go up to the touchdown or sorry, the field goal.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, let's move on here to the Bengals
Speaker 1: at the Ravens. This one, when I first checked was
Speaker 1: the Ravens laying ten. It has moved to currently Ravens
Speaker 1: laying eleven and a half. The over under has moved
Speaker 1: half a point up to forty eight from forty seven
Speaker 1: and a half. Not look the Ravens. They have not
Speaker 1: looked particularly impressive lately. They didn't against the Steelers necessarily,
Speaker 1: they just lost Tony Jefferson. Marquise Brown is dealing with
Speaker 1: an ankle injury. They barely squeak by the Steelers. But really,
Speaker 1: on the other side you have the Bengals, which is
Speaker 1: basically a pure dumpster fire at this point. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: are we gonna keep is this sharp money? By the way,
Speaker 1: do you think that's moving it up from ten to
Speaker 1: eleven and a half?
Speaker 2: I mean, usually early money is sharp money to begin with,
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of injuries to the Cincinnati team
Speaker 2: right now. There is a team that likes to throw
Speaker 2: the ball in seventy percent of snaps and they don't
Speaker 2: have any wide receivers that left. Green's gone, Ross has gone,
Speaker 2: Alec Erickson out with a concussion. Yeah, it's basically Tyler
Speaker 2: Boyd and on and Tate Yeah, and then yeah, they're
Speaker 2: going to be bringing some guys out of the stands
Speaker 2: to catch some balls. Yeah. But it's like you said,
Speaker 2: the Ravens haven't looked great. It's a possible look ahead
Speaker 2: spot for them because they have Seattle next week. They
Speaker 2: go to Seattle. They haven't covered a spread in four
Speaker 2: weeks since the massacre against Miami there, right, And I
Speaker 2: actually I've liked the Bengals this season. I've actually bet
Speaker 2: them three times on the road and they've gone two
Speaker 2: and one for me. And they've been a good bet
Speaker 2: on the road. So since two thousand and seven, they're
Speaker 2: thirteen and six ats on the road yep. And they're
Speaker 2: eleven and six ats as a road dog. However, that
Speaker 2: Monday night game against the Steelers just completely soured me. Here.
Speaker 2: They got gas on the ground by Arizona as well too.
Speaker 2: Gave up two hundred and sixty six yards and that's
Speaker 2: exactly what the Ravens are going to do. They're just
Speaker 2: going to run it down their throats. You know. Do
Speaker 2: the Ravens take their foot off the gas at the end.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a divisional game. I guess I
Speaker 2: would have to lean Ravens here, But since the line
Speaker 2: is ticking upward and gone through the key numbers there,
Speaker 2: I just I don't want to touch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate this line. I'm not going anywhere near it.
Speaker 1: And I agree, Yeah, I love the Bengals on the road.
Speaker 1: I bet them, you know, especially when they were against
Speaker 1: the Bills and in Week two getting six, which they covered,
Speaker 1: you know, Andy Dalton. In primetime, you never know, you know,
Speaker 1: for that Monday night game that's a little scary. This
Speaker 1: one is not in primetime. But I agree, this is
Speaker 1: a game where look, if I if I had to,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of lay a position, it would probably
Speaker 1: be on the Ravens if it's going to stay at
Speaker 1: eleven and a half. But it is not something where
Speaker 1: I'm looking a bit. It's just something where you could
Speaker 1: easily see, you know, sort of like the Cardinals, not
Speaker 1: in the same way, but they were way ahead and
Speaker 1: they just kind of eased up a little bit and
Speaker 1: in the end almost wound up losing that game.
Speaker 2: And Bengals have Bengals have been strong in the second
Speaker 2: half of games. Yeah, so it could be a dirty
Speaker 2: back door cover. Yeah, talk to me like Sunday at
Speaker 2: like twelve fifty five.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do an emergency podcast that'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, no, absolutely, Yeah, it's a it's a little tough,
Speaker 1: but I agree, it's just not one that I particularly
Speaker 1: like before. Maybe yeah, I mean, yeah, if you get
Speaker 1: if you get a few more numbers up there for
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I may bite the bullet here and go
Speaker 1: to the Bengals because you do. You're right, they are
Speaker 1: very good against the spread when they're on the road.
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Speaker 1: let's move on here to the Saints at the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Saints are laying one at this point. The over under
Speaker 1: is forty four and a half. Pretty impressive showing by
Speaker 1: the Saints against the Bucks, taking the reins off Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: Jags is a tough game against the Panthers. Still looks
Speaker 1: like Jalen Ramsey's gonna be out here. What do you
Speaker 1: think Saints saying one over under at forty four and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been there with the Gardner Minshew show the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, and he was great and then
Speaker 2: horrible at times during Carolina. He's got to and he
Speaker 2: really showed his kind of his rookie stripes in that game.
Speaker 2: There were times in which he should have thrown away
Speaker 2: the ball, but he tried to make a little too
Speaker 2: much out of whatever. Uh, and he had those three
Speaker 2: fumbles and it killed me. I was on the Jags
Speaker 2: this weekend, by the way. Yeah, yeah, but they a
Speaker 2: tough spot for them too. They were playing back to
Speaker 2: back road games. That was three and four weeks for
Speaker 2: them as well too. But the Saints defense is really
Speaker 2: starting to show up. Yeah, they had that. I thought
Speaker 2: while they only had the one, they had one big
Speaker 2: sack against Dallas. They got good pressure in Prescott that
Speaker 2: six sacks against the Bucks. And if they can bring
Speaker 2: the heat here, I think they're gonna be okay. And
Speaker 2: the rushing defense stepping up as well too. They only
Speaker 2: give up three point six yards per carry over their
Speaker 2: last three games, and that includes Seahawks and Cowboys as
Speaker 2: well to two games two teams that really hit the ground,
Speaker 2: run and Fournette. You know, they might be able to
Speaker 2: take away Fournette and kind of put it on the
Speaker 2: shoulders of this of this team. It's it seems crazy,
Speaker 2: but you know, Teddy Bridgewater is doing just enough to
Speaker 2: keep them safe. He's not hurting them, and the defense,
Speaker 2: just after a terrible start of the season, seems to
Speaker 2: be picking it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this line's gonna move a little bit
Speaker 1: towards the Saints. I mean, it was a pick them
Speaker 1: when I first looked at it, and now it's minus one.
Speaker 1: I think you're I don't think you're gonna get close
Speaker 1: to the you know three or anything. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit the key number. But I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna go towards the Saints, and I kind of like
Speaker 1: it there, you know, if you if you can get
Speaker 1: it at minus one, I kind of like it. I
Speaker 1: think the Jags are just kind of the wheels are
Speaker 1: falling off a little bit here, especially with Jayalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: gonna be out and again, yeah, the Saints can stop
Speaker 1: the run, so I think they'll stop Fournette. And as
Speaker 1: good as Minshew has been generally speaking, you know, I
Speaker 1: think asking him to win a game, especially when you
Speaker 1: can have Lattimore maybe take out Chark or something like that,
Speaker 1: a little tough. So I like the Saints here, and
Speaker 1: I probably get in on it early because I think
Speaker 1: i'd expect the line to continue to move towards the Saints.
Speaker 1: Let's move on here at the Eagles. At the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Vikings are laying two and a half. It was three, actually,
Speaker 1: and the over under is at forty four. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, man, I still kind of feel like
Speaker 1: the Vikings are a little undervalued here. I thought they
Speaker 1: were against the Giants. I like them with that spread
Speaker 1: below three, I really like it. I expected it to
Speaker 1: climb because the Eagles they beat the Jets easily, but
Speaker 1: their offense didn't look particularly great. It was mostly their defense.
Speaker 1: So Vikings two and a half over under forty four,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. They haven't looked good and the slow starts.
Speaker 2: You still kind of haunt this Eagles team here too,
Speaker 2: But I mean you look at what they had against
Speaker 2: the Jets had two defensive scores because so I kind
Speaker 2: of puffs up that stat line. They didn't pass well,
Speaker 2: they didn't run well, and they've found themselves in routinely
Speaker 2: tight games here. It was a five point game against Washington,
Speaker 2: four point game against Atlanta, three points against Detroit, and
Speaker 2: it was seven points with a win over Green Bay,
Speaker 2: which was a big character win for them, right, But
Speaker 2: still that was that was a tight game. There was
Speaker 2: a seven point game for just about the entire fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Nothing's really come easy for them. I look at them.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on this one. I think the
Speaker 2: Vikings do have the better offense, or at least the
Speaker 2: more consistent offense. The way they've been able to run
Speaker 2: the football. They kind of they the squeak a wheel,
Speaker 2: got a little bit of the grease.
Speaker 1: They knew it was coming, but they did.
Speaker 2: They did it early on and then they got right
Speaker 2: back to the running game and pounded out. I think
Speaker 2: they I think they do have the better defense at
Speaker 2: only three at home, like you said, And if you
Speaker 2: look at the vig around this game too, like this
Speaker 2: afternoon it was minus it was Vikings minus three flat. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: So that that tells me that, you know, should this
Speaker 2: one go to minus two and a half, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take the Vikes right away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now. The consensus at two and a half.
Speaker 1: So you know, you obviously could get it at some
Speaker 1: sports books at this point if you can. I agree,
Speaker 1: I jump all over that. The one thing is that
Speaker 1: Eagles are pretty good against the run, but you know,
Speaker 1: the the Vikings show that they can pass in this game.
Speaker 1: They finally opened it up a little bit, so I
Speaker 1: really like them at home. I don't see much of
Speaker 1: a letdown coming in here. I think they know they're
Speaker 1: going to keep moving it, so I like them. If
Speaker 1: you can get a below three, even APT three, I
Speaker 1: think I like them. But I'm surprised that it, at
Speaker 1: least the consensus odds appear to have dropped from three
Speaker 1: to two and a half.
Speaker 2: I'll admit i'm actually checking accounts.
Speaker 1: You've got to have an alert set up.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, well I'm not gonna i'll plug a new app,
Speaker 2: but we do have an app that can alert to
Speaker 2: those sort of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, see if you could find it at two
Speaker 1: and a half, I don't let me see it. Hold
Speaker 1: on very quickly, let.
Speaker 2: Me see it. I'm shopping it as we speak. Isn't that.
Speaker 1: That's It looks like it's two and a half based
Speaker 1: on architects at DraftKings, So if you can get in
Speaker 1: on there, it's apparently two and a half there, it's
Speaker 1: two and a half at Sugarhouse. This is just fun.
Speaker 1: This is just two degenerates by the way, sitting here
Speaker 1: thinking where we can get the best odds.
Speaker 2: So no, you need to Now I I am. I
Speaker 2: am located in the Great White North of Canada. Ah,
Speaker 2: so we do not have all those Pennsylvania and New
Speaker 2: Jersey sports books. However, I do have all the filthy
Speaker 2: online books.
Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic, We'll keep looking at GET two and a half.
Speaker 1: We'll be all over that.
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing threes. I'm seeing threes again.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, well, I gotta go to New Jersey,
Speaker 1: come to the States.
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta gas up the Honda Odyssey and
Speaker 2: get my butt over the border.
Speaker 1: Perfect. All right, you look real cool moving in there
Speaker 1: to the sports we like. Give me everything on two
Speaker 1: and a half. Al right, let's move on to another
Speaker 1: game that's going to show us essentially how many gamblers
Speaker 1: there are in the country or in Canada. Of course,
Speaker 1: with the Redskins at the Dolphins. Redskins here are laying
Speaker 1: three and a half the over unders of forty one.
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, this line's crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get that the Dolphins are terrible and that they
Speaker 1: kind of you know, but the Redskins are in complete
Speaker 1: disarray at this point. I'm not even sure the Redskins
Speaker 1: should be favored.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I totally agree with you. Patrick and I
Speaker 2: discussed this one today and I said, I think the
Speaker 2: wrong team is favored here. I think it really comes
Speaker 2: down to is do you trust the tank or not?
Speaker 2: He is Miami active tanking And if you think they are,
Speaker 2: then by all means bet the Redskins. But I made
Speaker 2: that mistake a couple of weeks ago and it's still
Speaker 2: still a sour taste. But if you look at if
Speaker 2: you look at these teams right now, like you said,
Speaker 2: like the QB situation is a mess, Gruden's gone, it's
Speaker 2: a mess. And then you've got Miami coming off of
Speaker 2: bye week and they actually have the better QB situation.
Speaker 2: Josh Rosen has looked okay over the last few weeks,
Speaker 2: like he's he had a good day against the Charger
Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty four, and he's playing with like zero
Speaker 2: offensive line defenses know that he's passing it because the
Speaker 2: Dolphins are trailing by twenty one. And then he has
Speaker 2: wide receiver corps that has the worst butter fingers in
Speaker 2: the league. I've never seen so many just spot on
Speaker 2: passes get dropped.
Speaker 1: Right, No, I completely agree I mean, I guess the
Speaker 1: one thing is it's a variable with you know, Gruden,
Speaker 1: Gon and it's something where we don't know how the
Speaker 1: team's going to react. Maybe somehow they rally around. But
Speaker 1: I agree. When I saw that this was especially over three,
Speaker 1: I was shocked. I expected this to be maybe a pick.
Speaker 2: Maybe this was the first bet I made of the week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Dolphins was Dolphins plus three. And then you know what
Speaker 2: I did, I went, I'm waiting for it because I
Speaker 2: don't think it was out at the time. I'll have
Speaker 2: to go back and check it was the first half spread.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Because you protect against the tanks and they may actually
Speaker 2: And the Dolphins have played okay in the early works
Speaker 2: the game. They were down ten to seven the first
Speaker 2: quarter against the Chargers, they were losing seventeen ten at
Speaker 2: the half. They were down ten three to the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: In the first quarter. They were down ten six and
Speaker 2: a half. So they haven't been terrible. Yeah, what an
Speaker 2: he means in the first thirty minutes, And if you
Speaker 2: do actively think that they're tanking, then go ahead and
Speaker 2: you know, grab them plus two or plus one and
Speaker 2: a half or whatever. They kind of put that first
Speaker 2: half line at and then the great thing is that
Speaker 2: you don't have to watch the rest of this terrible
Speaker 2: football game.
Speaker 1: That it's brilliant.
Speaker 2: Frank, you can just get on. You can get on
Speaker 2: at your day and you know it's a brilliant strategy.
Speaker 1: But I think for right now, if we're forced to
Speaker 1: bet at you and I both like the Dolphins getting
Speaker 1: three and a half, which makes me feel disgusting, but
Speaker 1: I'm willing to go with it for now. Nice forty
Speaker 1: nine ers at the Rams Rams here are laying four.
Speaker 1: Originally I think I saw might have been at five,
Speaker 1: but it's come down over under at forty nine. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you know, we'll see how the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers look tonight. As it's going on. They've looked pretty
Speaker 1: impressive early on.
Speaker 2: I think they're killing me. They're killing the Rams.
Speaker 1: Have not looked great in recent weeks. They've lost to
Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Seahawks. The offensive line is struggling,
Speaker 1: and in turn, so is Jared Goff Brandon Cooks dealing
Speaker 1: with the concussions. So what do you think here, Rams mind?
Speaker 1: As far you think, given how the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: look tonight, we haven't seen the end of the game.
Speaker 1: Is this gonna move further towards the forty nine.
Speaker 2: Ers they if they do win, Yeah, honestly, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean they're undefeated. They and they go in and come
Speaker 2: off the by with a strong performance. The Rams A
Speaker 2: crazy statu with the Rams. You know, the Rams are
Speaker 2: the only NFL team without a first quarter touchdown this season. Really,
Speaker 2: the only team without a first quarter touchdown are the.
Speaker 1: Yes That Actually, now that I'm thinking back at all
Speaker 1: their games, Yeah, wow.
Speaker 2: Golf has been incredibly slow. Fifty seven percent completion rate
Speaker 2: in the first quarter, two hundred and fifty seven total
Speaker 2: yards just in the first quarter. Teams kind of doing
Speaker 2: the same thing that they're doing to the Chiefs doing
Speaker 2: it to the Rams here. In the last few weeks,
Speaker 2: they've they've dominated time of possession and then the Rams
Speaker 2: have also been terrible trying to get them off the
Speaker 2: field on third downs, which is something that was the
Speaker 2: strength of this team last year. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 2: still waiting to see the final of the San Francisco
Speaker 2: game before I kind of go all in here, but yeah,
Speaker 2: the Rams have at least not look good in the
Speaker 2: early workings of the games, and if San Francisco gets
Speaker 2: off to a quick start like they are here against
Speaker 2: the Browns tonight, then you know the Rams are forced
Speaker 2: to throw that football. Todd Gurley showed flashes of goodness
Speaker 2: there in his last game. He had a couple a
Speaker 2: couple of mistakes here and there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he did fumble, but he had the two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and he had a couple of good runs. But his overall,
Speaker 1: I mean not that yards per carry is really the measure,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't great overall. Of still waiting kind of
Speaker 1: to see him. The big thing was he dominated the snap,
Speaker 1: so he's to play more. The Malcolm Brown experiment is silly,
Speaker 1: but I agree. If the forty nine ers, you know,
Speaker 1: finish this game, you don't know how it's gonna look.
Speaker 1: But if they do, I mean, I'm gonna expect this
Speaker 1: to move closer to three as we get there, because
Speaker 1: the Rams really have not looked great. Let's move on
Speaker 1: here to the Falcons. At the Cardinals. Falcons currently at
Speaker 1: minus two. They were minus one when I looked early
Speaker 1: on the over under has jumped to fifty two. It
Speaker 1: was at forty nine. Uh, it's a little surprising to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I guess not now that it's now
Speaker 1: that it's minus two, that that's really what I thought
Speaker 1: when I first looked at minus one. As it's trending
Speaker 1: towards the Falcons, that's kind of what I thought. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get that, you know, the Cardinals had their first
Speaker 1: win over the Bengals and the Falcons defense is terrible.
Speaker 1: But you know, I guess I'm a little surprised. I
Speaker 1: kind of expected it to be a little more towards
Speaker 1: the Falcons, But now that it's trending that way, that
Speaker 1: that makes a little more sense to me. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the hot seat game for Dan Quinn, right
Speaker 2: if he doesn't win this game, I think I think
Speaker 2: the axe has to fall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there, I mean I feel, you know, again,
Speaker 1: they've had tons of injuries on the defense can O'Neil
Speaker 1: being out, but I kind of expect them to rout.
Speaker 1: I just I don't trust the Cardinals, man. I mean,
Speaker 1: as much as you know to to win the game,
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons win it. And if you you know,
Speaker 1: if you think the Falcons are going to win it,
Speaker 1: then you probably think the Falcons are going to win it.
Speaker 2: Possible, let down for Kingsbury and these guys after their
Speaker 2: first win. Yeah, no, absolutely that there. And then David
Speaker 2: Johnson has back issues, correct, that's right, said he couldn't
Speaker 2: sit down. And I've had back issues, and as someone
Speaker 2: that just purchased a brand new office chair, it's this
Speaker 2: is nice, this is nice right now. But I've had
Speaker 2: I've had those back issues where you can't sit down
Speaker 2: because it's sciatic pain and stuff like that. And if
Speaker 2: that's what it is, then that's deep rooted. That's like
Speaker 2: bulging disc type stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I am a giant human, so I also
Speaker 1: have back problems. And I agree it's hard when you
Speaker 1: really when you win. And again Chase Edmonds is not
Speaker 1: going to get it done. It's unclear if Christian Kirk
Speaker 1: is going to play. So this strikes me as a
Speaker 1: game where the Falcons are absolutely desperate if they have
Speaker 1: any you know, belief at all, and Dan Quinn and
Speaker 1: I think they're going to come out firing. So I
Speaker 1: think more money is going to come in on the Falcons.
Speaker 1: I think the line will probably move, not get up
Speaker 1: to three.
Speaker 2: But can they scored a ton of points yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: thank Houston. They just allowed a lot more.
Speaker 1: Right, and they'll put up a ton of point That's
Speaker 1: why the over unders are fifty two. They'll put up
Speaker 1: a ton of points. I don't think they'll give up
Speaker 1: quite the offensive explosion to the Cardinals that they did
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Speaker 1: So go ahead and do it, all right, your Cowboys,
Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, right at my Jets, Cowboys right
Speaker 1: now are laying eight and a half. It was at
Speaker 1: seven the over unders of forty three and a half.
Speaker 1: Here's my take on it. You go ahead with it.
Speaker 1: If Sam Darnold plays, I'm going to feel disgusting, but
Speaker 1: I think I kind of like the Jets if the
Speaker 1: number is going to stay it eight and a half. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to move dramatically
Speaker 1: once we find out about Darnald sentence. If it's I'm
Speaker 1: all over the Cowboys, it doesn't matter because the defense
Speaker 1: is going to do it, and I assume that the
Speaker 1: number will move substantially. But if it's at eight and
Speaker 1: a half with Darnold, I kind of like the Jets.
Speaker 2: Is that crazy? No, it's not crazy. I absolutely agree
Speaker 2: with you. You know, they they've and the defense has
Speaker 2: played very very well for the Jets. Yeah, very very well.
Speaker 2: Now they're physical, they get after eight takeaways on the season.
Speaker 2: The problem is is that when they're playing offense, they're
Speaker 2: still playing defense, correct, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 2: just don't just don't do it, don't screw anything up, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they still do. They still screw it up. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: then the Cowboys play Philly next week as well too,
Speaker 2: so that's a big, big look ahead spot for them there.
Speaker 2: Turnovers have just killed the Cowboys here. They had two
Speaker 2: crucial fumbles in that game against the Saints. It was
Speaker 2: a tight game and that made the difference. Went and fumbled,
Speaker 2: and then Zeke fumbled, and then Dak was all over
Speaker 2: the place there yesterday with those turnovers, and they still,
Speaker 2: you know, they still had a chance at the end
Speaker 2: of the game. Had they not had those turnovers, had
Speaker 2: they had taken care of the football, probably a different result.
Speaker 2: But you've got a very dangerous Jets team here, and
Speaker 2: if they do get Donald back, it actually gives them
Speaker 2: a little teeth on offense.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's the first time I've ever heard anybody call
Speaker 1: the Jets dangerous, so I really appreciate it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they their cornerback situation is not good,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm sure that Dak's gonna be able,
Speaker 1: but they stop the run fairly well. They can get
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback, especially if CJ. Moseley does come
Speaker 1: back for this, so I'm inclined to agree. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, all this talk about the Jets, they've been terrible,
Speaker 1: but anybody would be terrible with Luke Falk at quarterback.
Speaker 1: So if Donald comes back, I'm kind of lean towards
Speaker 1: the Jets. Sounds like you do too, so, but again,
Speaker 1: we're going to see where this line goes once we
Speaker 1: learn the health of Darnald Titans at the Broncos. Broncos
Speaker 1: here laying two and a half. The over under is
Speaker 1: at thirty eight and a half. It wasn't forty. It's
Speaker 1: come down a bit. I want you to know that
Speaker 1: there is no team I hate more than the Titans,
Speaker 1: just because thank you for do you agree?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was just what to say. There's
Speaker 2: no way in hell a bet in this game because
Speaker 2: the goddamn Tennessee Titans. I said to a guy the
Speaker 2: other day that I work with, I said, the Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Betting on the Tennessee Titans is like watching my fourteen
Speaker 2: year old load the dish. It's the most frustrating, frustrating,
Speaker 2: goddamn thing to sit through because he means well and
Speaker 2: they're trying really hard. But yeah, man, at the end,
Speaker 2: at the end of it, I've got to do the
Speaker 2: whole dish. One.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I took him laying three to the Bills. I
Speaker 1: thought that they were gonna and you know, really they
Speaker 1: should have won that game. They had four miss field
Speaker 1: goes and the fact that they released Caro Sandoz is
Speaker 1: of just no consolation. So I agree for me, you know,
Speaker 1: in in in Denver, it's never an easy place to
Speaker 1: play no matter what, and they're coming off that big win.
Speaker 1: It's just not I'm just not gonna bet this at all.
Speaker 1: I don't have any faith, you know, in them whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you don't either, so let's just move That's.
Speaker 2: The one advantage we have over the bookmakers is that
Speaker 2: they have to set odds for every single game, but
Speaker 2: we can choose which once in one a bit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna choose to avoid this one. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to the Steelers. At the Chargers, this was five and
Speaker 1: a half, it's now six and a half. The over
Speaker 1: under was forty three and a half, it's now forty
Speaker 1: one and a half. I assume that you know, bookmakers
Speaker 1: are basically reacting to the Mason Rudolph injury and preparing
Speaker 1: for Devlin Hodges. Doesn't. I mean, I'm not a doctor,
Speaker 1: but given how hard it was, it it's going to
Speaker 1: shock me if Rudolf is able to recover in time
Speaker 1: to play for this. So I think you're probably looking
Speaker 1: at Devlin Hodges right, that Chargers predictably lay this egg
Speaker 1: against Denver when they come in when it was all
Speaker 1: set up for them to sort of go. So how
Speaker 1: do you feel out of curiosity assuming that Hodges starts
Speaker 1: Chargers laying six and a half over under forty one
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's under the key number right now, so
Speaker 2: that might be the best it's going to get once
Speaker 2: the once the injury reports finally roll out, you're going
Speaker 2: to see reaction to it. Chargers seven to three ats
Speaker 2: in their last ten awful loss, which is just classic
Speaker 2: Chargers for you, Yes, just up and down and up
Speaker 2: and down. So I would say, if you if you
Speaker 2: are leaning towards the favorite in this one, I don't
Speaker 2: think it's going to get any better than this one hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, because I mean, right now it's possible
Speaker 1: you don't know about my summer off. He was released
Speaker 1: from the hospital, so maybe they're thinking, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to be shocked. If he's gonna play, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Devlin Hodges, and I think they're gonna come out angry,
Speaker 1: and right now below the key number of seven, I
Speaker 1: think is if you like the Chargers like I do,
Speaker 1: you gotta hop all over it if you're if you're
Speaker 1: in life at them. So let's move on to our
Speaker 1: final game Lions at Packers. Really interesting one here. The
Speaker 1: Packers were originally favored by six. They're now favored by
Speaker 1: four and a half. The over under was forty six
Speaker 1: and a half now it's forty seven. Some injuries to
Speaker 1: the Packers secondary here, it sounds like Darnold Savage is
Speaker 1: going to be okay. I think Kevin King probably is
Speaker 1: going to be okay. It's unclear if DeVante Adams is
Speaker 1: going to play in this one. But you know, the
Speaker 1: Lions off of bye, what do you think They've been
Speaker 1: impressive so far? Packers laying four and a half over
Speaker 1: under forty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the Lions coming into the season. I
Speaker 2: thought they were going to be much more improved on
Speaker 2: defense under Matt Patricia in year two, and they lost
Speaker 2: so many key pieces of this offense at the end
Speaker 2: of last year that you really didn't get a fair
Speaker 2: shake and see what they could do. And this is
Speaker 2: a team that can hit the home run, which is great.
Speaker 2: And it's funny to come into a matchup where Detroit
Speaker 2: and Green Bay plays and you're like, you know what
Speaker 2: this is the home run team is the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: Because what we saw from what we've seen from Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Is you know this? They dominated Dallas on the ground,
Speaker 2: a little shorter, shorter, quicker passes. You want to know
Speaker 2: another crazy stat here, Aaron Rodgers does not have a
Speaker 2: fourth quarter touchdown pass?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking, is he not the king of
Speaker 1: fourth quarter touchdown They they have completely taken just through
Speaker 1: if you took at the season as a whole, they
Speaker 1: basically stopped playing in the second half. They barely had
Speaker 1: scored points right coming in. I don't really get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to make you worry if you are
Speaker 2: laying with the chief heads right near one point eight
Speaker 2: points in the final fifteen minutes of action so far
Speaker 2: on the season they did. I think they put up
Speaker 2: I think they put up fourteen to the fourth court
Speaker 2: sort in the third quarter versus the Cowboys. But they're
Speaker 2: still only averaging five point six points in the third quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so definitely definitely one of those. You know, check out
Speaker 2: the derivative odds for that one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, for me right now, I kind of lean
Speaker 1: towards the Lions coming off the by I was a
Speaker 1: little surprised the Cowboys didn't just run NonStop. It's almost
Speaker 1: felt like they outthoughted themselves a little bit at the
Speaker 1: beginning where they went to the pass a little too much.
Speaker 1: I thought they could have just ran Zeke exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: And they still they had with they ran the ball
Speaker 2: twenty one times, they had honored twenty one yards rushing
Speaker 2: almost that's what five point eight yards per carry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And you know, Matt Patricia really deep down
Speaker 1: wants to just kind of control the ball and run
Speaker 1: it and sort of have that even though they are
Speaker 1: explosive because Matt Stafford is not playing with a broken
Speaker 1: back anymore, so they do have the big playability. But
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you're you're you're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of Kerry On Johnson. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: with it being four and a half, I love I
Speaker 1: loved it at six. I still like it at four
Speaker 1: and a half. If if it keeps coming down, I'll
Speaker 1: be a little nervous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Packer's pass rush is nasty though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they are there. They're nasty, they are, but
Speaker 1: they really are vulnerable on the ground. So I do
Speaker 1: think that, you know, with an extra week to prepare,
Speaker 1: they'll probably go after him that one. Well, that is
Speaker 1: going to do it. We did it, buddy, We made
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, it was great talking to you. I
Speaker 1: hope we can do it again this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely awesome.
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