1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: Welcome back to The Herd. I'm Danny Parkins in for Colin. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: We'll talk some gambling with the Bear coming up in 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: about twenty minutes. Very excited to be joining what I 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: would say is the best show in sports television. First 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: things first for this football season and going forward as 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: FtF expands to three hours, which means I will be 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: joining focus with our forces with our next guest, Chris 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: Brusard Brew, Thank you for joining the Herd. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: We have football this week. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: There's a Hall of Fame game, there's Top ten lists, 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: there's football. But then because it's Lebron and basketball, it. 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Finds a way. He's just it. It finds away into 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: the headlines. 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: What do you make of. 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: Nikola Jokicic's agent being on a yacht in France with 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: Lebron and Maverick Carter saying summer of twenty twenty five 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: perfect time to come up with big plans for fall 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty six. Like the picture is nothing, the 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: caption is something. 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 2: What is it to you? 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 5: Right? 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, let me say I can't wait 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 6: to have you on the show in a few weeks 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 6: where we expand the three hours on First things first, 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 6: So thanks. What's already great is going to be even 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 6: greater when you join this, So I'm. 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: Excited about that. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 6: But as far as the Jokic Lebron Maverick Carter photo, 36 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 6: a lot of people are talking about Lebron joining. 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: Forces with Jokic. I don't see that at all. 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 6: Now, what is possible he mentions, you know, fall the 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 6: twenty twenty six that is when Lebron will be a 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 6: free agent. If he wanted to go play with Jokic 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 6: on the veteran's minimum or maybe. 42 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: The mid level exception, whatever they could offer. 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 6: Him, then I guess that's possible. Lebron does like playing 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 6: with high IQ players. He obviously has tons of respect 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 6: for Jokic's game, so he could go have fun with that. 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 6: I don't see that happening, But I think this was 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 6: more about Remember, Lebron's best friend and business partner, Maverick Carter, 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 6: is starting this international league that. 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: Presumably is going to try to compete with. 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 6: The NBA, and Jokicic's agent has a ton of European players, 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 6: as you might imagine. So I think it was more 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 6: so about how they can work together and join forces 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 6: for that league, and what players might be able to 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 6: play for it, and so on and so forth, then 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 6: about Lebron teaming up with Yogics, As delicious as that 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 6: would be, I don't see it happening. 57 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: So they're trolling a little bit because no one, Yeah, 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: they're trolling. No one is thinking about it. 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 6: Lebron may have even given him that, like this is 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: how you're worried, because that's typical Lebron putting it out there, 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 6: making us wonder and oh my god, can this happen? 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: But I know I'll be. 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 6: Floored if Lebron and Jokic ever played together, as would I. 64 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: You are a journalist, so you know the difference between 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: journalism and pr And Luka Doncic graces us on the 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: cover of Men's Health, and Luka Doncic looks shredded, and Luka. 67 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Doncic to me, is doing some pr to. 68 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: Get people like, oh yeah, he cares and he's a 69 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: professional and he's working out. And I don't know if 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: those images are doctored or whatever, but good for Luca 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: forgetting in shape. But beyond the pictures, I read the 72 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: article and there are two men of Lebron James brew 73 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: in the article, both by the writer, like normally athleticism is, 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: you know, with Lebron James level biceps and you know 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: things like that, right, And then there is a quote 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: from Luka Doncic after he apparently credited witnessing Dirk Novitsky 77 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: early in his early in Luca's career, Dirk late in 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: his career about how he worked out. I want to 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: put the quote up here for the FS one audience. 80 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: He said, you know MJ and Kobe, you know, they 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: really did a lot in their careers. 82 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: They sacrificed a lot. 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking I thought the narrative was that Luca 84 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: was going to learn from Lebron how to take care 85 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: of his body. But he doesn't credit Lebron in the article. 86 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: What do you make of it? 87 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: Nothing? 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 6: Nothing, First of all, it might be pr the way 89 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 6: Luca looks. But he had me at hello, coach, I mean, 90 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 6: my goodness, he looks. 91 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: I'm sold. Dude looks awesome. Man. 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be better than ever to get 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 6: to the Lebron MJ Kobe thing. 94 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: We all know. Luca has talked about. 95 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 6: His love for Lebron, watching him growing up and you know, 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 6: modeling some of his play affter Lebron and I look, 97 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 6: you're right, he said him Jay and Kobe and who 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 6: can fall through for that too? 99 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: All time greats. Obviously Kobe a Laker great, But I 100 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: and remember who he works for. 101 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 6: To some degree, he's a Jordan athlete, right, Yeah, he's 102 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 6: a Jordan bred athlete. 103 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: So he mentions Jordan, his shoe company. 104 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 6: He mentions Kobe the legend of the team that he 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 6: plays for. 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be honest, Danny. 107 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: When I saw this article, saw how Luca looked, read 108 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 6: it about you know how he's changed and this summer 109 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 6: is different for him. I gave a big shout out 110 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: to Lebron James like this, this is a testament to 111 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 6: Lebron James's example and the impact it had on Luka 112 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 6: Doncics like lead, he's been in the League six seven years. 113 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 6: And I know we've always seen pictures of slim Luca 114 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 6: in the summers, but this. 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: Is clearly different. 116 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 6: And he said as much that this is different this summer, 117 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 6: I think he played with Lebron and saw wow, as 118 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 6: much physical ability as Lebron has, as much natural ability, 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 6: as much size and strength and athleticism as Lebron has naturally, 120 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 6: he goes above and beyond to become the player he. 121 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 4: Is, Like, he's not just playing off. 122 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 6: His natural ability and giving you the basic doing the basic. 123 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: Workout that all the other NBA players do. 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 6: We know he goes above and beyond. And I think 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,119 Speaker 6: that really clicked with Luca. And I think he said, 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 6: you know what, if I want to be as good 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 6: as him, then I need. 128 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: To do something different. 129 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 6: And he's going through two A days right now according 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 6: to that article. So but I shout out Lebron, Shout 131 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 6: out Lebron. 132 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: Why this team? Because this is current teammate. 133 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 6: You don't want to be all falling over your current teammate. 134 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: You got love for me, You follow my. 135 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 6: Example, Nick writes, follow my example, y'all. 136 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: Don't fall over me. Yeah, come at me. 137 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 6: For some reason, you're trying to come at me, But 138 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 6: you grew up watching me, you know. 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I get it. 140 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 6: You know, I say, you'd rather talk about you know, 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 6: somebody else that's not on the show with you, So. 142 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: I get it. 143 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 144 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 5: and Noone Eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 145 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 146 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 7: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 147 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 7: five to seven pm Eastern. 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I 177 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: know you have a lot of practice. 178 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: Going at Knicks lists, but I feel like you really dislike. 179 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: My quarterback rankings. Brew. 180 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 4: I feel. 181 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: We called parkins peak on FtF. They asked me to 182 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: do my. 183 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: Top ten here. I was like, I'll just bring it 184 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: on over. It was an easy transfer. 185 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 9: Here. 186 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: I look at that and I see a perfect indisputable 187 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: top ten. 188 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: You see something different? 189 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, first of all, look, you you got the. 190 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: Number one, right, That's I'll start positive. 191 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 6: All right, you got the number one guy, and you 192 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 6: can I would put Lamar too, but Josh Allen's fine. 193 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: He's been better in the playoffs. 194 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 6: So I'll give you that. But I have to put 195 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 6: Lamar a head of Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow some of 196 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 6: his injuries, but hasn't been in the playoffs since twenty 197 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 6: twenty two. And I love Burrow, but I've never seen 198 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 6: a player ride so much off of one playoff victory 199 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 6: over Patrick Mahomes. You know he's riding off of that. 200 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 6: So I would have to switch Lamar and Burrow and 201 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 6: have Burrow at four. And then this is where it 202 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 6: gets crazy. Is that the justin Herbert that through the 203 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 6: four interceptions the last time we saw him in the 204 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 6: playoff game to him is. 205 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: That hands in fairness? 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 4: That's okay? 207 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: Okay? 208 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 6: When still when I look at Broke Football Reference, it's 209 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 6: still says more interceptions. 210 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: And so look, I am with you, and. 211 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 6: Like everybody loves Herbert's talent, I assume and he was 212 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 6: great as early in his career, his first few years. 213 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 6: I assume you're saying, look, he's got a very good coach. 214 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 6: Even though he kind of took the ball out of 215 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 6: his hands, He's gonna start winning. He's gonna be you know, 216 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 6: you throw a fewer picks and things like that with hardball, 217 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 6: so you're projecting, and he does have top five talent, 218 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 6: but right now I can't put him there. I would 219 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 6: put Jaydon Daniels. You know, my my m O five 220 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 6: to twelve ish is fluid, but right now the tide 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 6: is pushing Jaydon Daniels to number five. We'll seev Holds 222 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 6: on Jalen Hurts. I gotta have above Justin Herbert Matthew Stafford. 223 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 6: I think, look, he's thirty seven. We know now the 224 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 6: back is bothering him. He's not gonna practice this week. 225 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 6: That's really been his problem since the Super Bowl win 226 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 6: a few years ago. Injuries have lessened his impact, even 227 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 6: kept him out of some game. So I think Stafford 228 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 6: just might be he feels like an old thirty seven, 229 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 6: and that's old enough as it is just by itself. 230 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 6: So I think Stafford is probably on the decline. I 231 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 6: think he got Jared Golfer tad Bit high. 232 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 4: But you know the list. 233 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 6: The main thing is Justin Herbert is too high, and 234 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 6: I don't understand it for the life of me. 235 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: Let's just say the trade was offered Herbert for Hertz 236 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: who says. 237 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: No, Philly, No, they would not. 238 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: Now. 239 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 6: AJ Brown might not say no or divide day Smith, 240 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 6: but I really I think. 241 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: Philly says no. How you doing the Toush push with Justin. 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: Herbert handed it to Saquon Barkley and you're throwing the 243 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: ball to A J. 244 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: Brown. 245 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 3: We could get rid of the Toush push. 246 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 6: Look, Herbert, I love Herbert, not as much as you, 247 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 6: thank you, but I do like Herbert. 248 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: Two things can be true. All the talent in the world. 249 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 6: And it's tough right physically tough's played through injury. But 250 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 6: you have to be a bit taken aback and have 251 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 6: to give pause because of the way he's played in 252 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 6: these playoffs. He wasn't horrible in the first game when 253 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 6: they let you know, Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville come back. 254 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 6: He didn't like throw a bunch of picks, but he 255 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 6: just didn't. 256 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: Do anything in the second half. 257 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 6: But he really hasn't been great in the biggest games 258 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 6: in the playoffs at least, so you do have. 259 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: To admit that. No. 260 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, ohldn't you with a terrible collapse in 261 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 3: one and four interceptions with the other? 262 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: I cannot hard. I cannot argue that point. 263 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 6: Those two sentences you just said, and number fifth best 264 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 6: quarter in the world. 265 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: Don't jive. 266 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: It's a team game, don't. I'm sorry, it's a team game. 267 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 4: That's right. It was Will Disley that through those. 268 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 6: Four interceptions just there, that's what Jim Harball's saying. Right 269 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 6: the other team, the other players got to pick it up. 270 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: They gotta catch up. 271 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: They got to catch up to get on. 272 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: Just now you're seeing me and Harbaugh as that next 273 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 3: level football thinking. I said it earlier in the show 274 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: Brew thirty one NFL Teams and a Television Producer. I 275 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: think Jerry Jones gave away the plot in the Netflix 276 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: documentary when he said it's a soap opera three hundred 277 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: and sixty five days a year. And when we are 278 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: trying to be like, why would they handle Ceedee Lamb 279 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: this way? Why would they handle Micah Parsons this way? 280 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: I feel like that four second clip in the trailer 281 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: explained everything. 282 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 6: What about you, You're right on the money, look it. 283 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: Remember you know thinking your favor sports movies. 284 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 6: I like loving basketball, Bulldoorham that's maybe before your time, 285 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 6: but these are movies. 286 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: They're sports movies. Right, Yeah, but. 287 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 6: They're not really about sports. They're just in a sports setting. 288 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 6: That's the Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones, at least since 289 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: they won their last Super Bowl. 290 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: They are a drama. 291 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 6: They are I've used that term to describe them soap 292 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: opera that's in a football setting. 293 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: They're not really a football franchise. 294 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 6: The New England Patriots, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Los Angeles Chargers, those. 295 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: Are football franchises. 296 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 6: The Dallas Cowboys are a soap opera, a drama, an 297 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 6: entertainment factory like that just happens to be in a 298 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 6: football setting. 299 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: And what I would say to Jerry, because you put 300 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: it out. I thought you spelled it out. 301 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 6: Well in your last segment. That's what this thing. 302 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 4: Is with Micah. 303 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 6: He might pay Mike, he's gonna make him the highest 304 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 6: paid non quarterback ever, but he might go well above TJ. 305 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: Watts forty one million dollars. 306 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 6: Per because he likes having that reputation. It will help 307 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 6: him among other players right on other teams. And say, man, 308 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 6: Jerry went way above, you know, making Mike of the 309 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 6: highest paid non qb. And but I would say this 310 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: to Jerry making another dollar on the Cowboys is not 311 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: going to change anything for him, but winning another Super 312 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 6: Bowl would. And I really think the entertainment value, the 313 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 6: value of the franchise, keeping the Cowboys on talk shows 314 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 6: like this and ours and the other networks is most 315 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 6: important to Jerry. But they already have a sky high 316 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 6: value as the Cowboys. What would change his world would 317 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 6: be winning another Super Bowl. And I don't think he 318 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 6: sees it that way unfortunately, because you know, make how 319 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 6: much more money does he need and how much more 320 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 6: valuable do they need to get? They're gonna keep rising 321 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: in value no matter what. So I just think he's 322 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 6: approaching it the wrong way. 323 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: Chris Brossard, First things first, we'll be watching later, Thank you, sir. 324 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: All right, man later, all right, talk to you soon. 325 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: That's Chris Brossard from First Things First, coming up. 326 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: It's a shame I don't have a bet yet for 327 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy. 328 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: I got a lot of futures bets already placed for football. 329 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: I need a little bit more on my college football card. 330 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: The Bear helps me fill that void. Plus, never too 331 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: early to bet Texas and Ohio State the Bear. 332 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: Next, I'm Danny Parkins. This is the Hurt. 333 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 5: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 334 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 5: and noon Eastern nin a Empacific. 335 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Herd. I'm Danny Parkins in for Colin. 336 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: It is football season because we have the Hall of 337 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: Fame game this week, but it's always football season if 338 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: you gamble on football, which means it's time to bring 339 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: on my. 340 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: Next guest, Chris Flika. 341 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: You know him as the Bear Box Big Neon Kickoff 342 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: host of Bear Bets with Jeff Schwartz. I've been a 343 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: guest on that show and bear listen. I don't want 344 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: you to have to bring it up, so I'll do it. 345 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: I went sixty five percent against the spread in the 346 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: NFL last year, documented on TV. 347 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: It's not it's not a big deal. 348 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: I beat Colin, I beat Nick, I beat you. It's 349 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: not a big deal. I don't want you to have 350 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: to bring it up, so I'm going to say it. 351 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: But you're the gambling expert, and college football is right 352 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: around the corner. I know you will be at Texas 353 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: and Ohio State. Do we have an early bear bet 354 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: for that game? 355 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 9: Sixty five orci? But who's counting, right? 356 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a big deal. 357 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: It's not a big deal. 358 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: Did I also have a winning record in the postseason? 359 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 4: I did? 360 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: Did I also have a winning Super Bowl? 361 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 4: I did? 362 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 2: But stop bringing it up. Bear stop. 363 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 9: I'm sorry. I'll let you move on. I don't want 364 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 9: to have you live in the past. I'll stop bringing 365 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 9: you all of gak ex accolades from life from last season. 366 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 9: If that way we could focus twenty twenty five. You 367 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 9: had an unbelievable year and that was kudos to you 368 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 9: for that. But looking ahead to twenty twenty five and 369 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 9: notably Ohio State Texas to open the year, I know 370 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 9: everybody's looking for a side in this game, Texas or 371 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 9: Ohio State, But the thing that attracts me the most 372 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 9: is the total in this game. Fifteen and a half 373 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 9: seems like a very high number for a couple of 374 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 9: teams where you've got new coordinators, you've got new starting quarterbacks, 375 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 9: you've got new offensive linemen, you've got new running backs. 376 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 9: On the Ohio State side of the ball, I think 377 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 9: you look at the best union on the field will 378 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 9: probably be the Texas defense. So I don't think Steve 379 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 9: Sarkishan is going to put together a game plan that's 380 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 9: going to dictate arch Manning goes on the road at 381 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 9: Ohio State in Game one to win this game. Look 382 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 9: at the semi five game from a year ago. It 383 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 9: was twenty eight to fourteen, and that included a defensive 384 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 9: touchdown by Ohio State late in the game. So the 385 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 9: Texas defense held that unbelievable Ohio State offense to twenty 386 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 9: one points. So I was twenty at fourteen forty two 387 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 9: points including an that offensive score. I could see a 388 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 9: very similar tight twenty three seventeen type game where where 389 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 9: it doesn't even come close to going over fifty and 390 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 9: a half. So yeah, under fifty and a half is 391 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 9: what I like right now, and that big one that 392 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 9: I can't wait to get to with big un at 393 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 9: the end of August. 394 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: And people say unders are boring, not if they win, 395 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: exactly right, I'll take it back the same, Yeah, they're. 396 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: Not boring if they win. 397 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 3: At this point, I normally have a Heisman future and 398 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 3: I don't right now. 399 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: Can you help me out? It doesn't matter. I'll tell you. 400 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: I'll bet a favorite if it wins. But what's your 401 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: best Heisman bet? 402 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 9: I have bet two players in the Heisman trophy market. 403 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 9: I have bet Carson Beck, the Miami quarterback at thirty 404 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 9: three to one, and I bet Jeremiah Love, the Notre 405 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 9: Dame running back, at forty to one. So those are 406 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 9: the two I have in pocket. I think people forget 407 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 9: how good Carson Beck was a couple of years ago, 408 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 9: have like twenty five touchdowns, six picks, hit over seventy 409 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 9: percent of his passes. He's going to have one of 410 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 9: the best offensive lines in the country in Miami. He's 411 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 9: going to have a deep group of running backs. At Miami, 412 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 9: They're going to be a one first type of team. 413 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 9: They're not going to put too much pressure on it. 414 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 9: But I think with Elijah Laughton and Jojo Trader, they 415 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 9: have a wide receiver. They got a couple of guys 416 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 9: who they think very highly of. So if Miami were 417 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 9: to beat Notre Dame in Week one, that price is 418 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 9: going to get slashed in half. So grab that number 419 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 9: and now one Carson Beck. And then I also took 420 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 9: at Jeremiah Love, the Notre Dame running back. We saw 421 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 9: what he can do all year. He catches the ball 422 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 9: out of the backfield. Obviously a great runner. Notre Dame 423 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 9: can win that game. Maybe they go undefeated, even if 424 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 9: Notre Dame were to lose that game, they potentially went 425 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 9: out go to the playoff. He's the best player on 426 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 9: one of the biggest brands in college football. I think 427 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 9: maybe after last year with Travis Hunter winning the Heisman 428 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 9: is kind of a defensive hybrid wide receiver guy. I 429 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 9: can see a lot of voters maybe taking a step 430 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 9: back and getting a little bit more traditional this year 431 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 9: with the quarterback running back type. 432 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: Winner talking football, gambling with the bear. All right, let's 433 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: move to the NFL. Last year, Washington shattered their win total, 434 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to figure it out, like, not just 435 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: the team that ekes it over, but who's the team 436 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: with a low total that could shatter thereover and give 437 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 3: you a comfortable win? 438 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: All Right? 439 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 9: I know I'm kind of taking my life in my 440 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 9: own hands here a little bit with the Raheem Morris 441 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 9: school of game and clock management. But I think the 442 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 9: Falcons win total of seven and a half. It's a 443 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 9: very weak division. I am high on Michael Pennix. They 444 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 9: look great now for drafting him given what happened to 445 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 9: Kirk Cousins late last year. And if you look at 446 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 9: the Falcons last year, remember this was a team that 447 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 9: was six and three before Cousins got hurt and absolutely 448 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 9: fell off the cliff. You've got Drake Lundon, You've got 449 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 9: b John Robinson. You've got a schedule, like I said, 450 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 9: of a very poor division, maybe one cold weather game 451 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 9: late in the year against the Jets, who aren't very good. 452 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 9: Not a ton of Super Bowl playoff contenders on that schedule. 453 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 9: The Falcons are a team this year that I can 454 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 9: see very easily getting to that ten win mark, just 455 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 9: like the Commanders did last year. 456 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: All right, so the Falcons are at seven and a 457 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: half wins, so yeah, if they get to double digit 458 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 3: that would certainly qualify. So let's do the inverse of 459 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: the question. Give me a team with a win. 460 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: Total, let's say of nine to nine and a half 461 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: or higher. 462 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: Right, so, expected to be a double digit win team 463 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 3: that doesn't just win eight or nine games and eke under, 464 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: but has a chance to be way worse than projections suggest. 465 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 9: Kevin O'Connell was Coach of the Year last year. Brian 466 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 9: flora Is very easily could have been the assistant coach 467 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 9: of the Year last year. I can't quite get there yet. 468 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 9: With all of this love for the Minnesota Vikings. I 469 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 9: think Sam Darnold obviously had a magical year, and they 470 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 9: have a great receiving corp. Remember you went nine in 471 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 9: one in one score games. You're turning it over to 472 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 9: JJ McCarthy, who hasn't really played a competitive down of 473 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 9: football in a couple of years. Be very interested to 474 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 9: see how the Vikings do this year in that difficult division, 475 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 9: difficult schedule. Now, one thing that I like to do 476 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 9: with some of these teams that I don't necessarily have 477 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 9: a great feeling about in terms of them being super good. 478 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 9: The Vikings are a team that if you look at 479 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 9: the early part of the schedule, before they have that 480 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 9: London game and the idle week, they could start off 481 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 9: four in one, maybe five and zero, three and two. 482 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 9: You might be able to get an additional winneror two 483 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 9: on the win total, because when they come back from 484 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 9: the overseas trick, you've got Detroit, you've got Baltimore, you've 485 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 9: got Philly, you've got the Chargers, you got the Packers, 486 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 9: like you might be able to wait and potentially get 487 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 9: maybe under ten and a half or so on the Vikings. 488 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 9: Once that win total gets adjusted in season, so you 489 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 9: can play it now, or you could potentially wait and 490 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 9: hope that the Vikings get off to a good start 491 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 9: and you can be a better number at some point 492 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 9: during the year. 493 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: So the Steelers, it's like contractually obligated. You mentioned the Steelers, 494 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: they've never had They've never had a losing record right 495 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: under Mike Tomlin. Yep, but the win total actually expects 496 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: them to and that's not the first year that that 497 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: has happened. Do you believe that they actually will have 498 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: their first losing season under Mike Tomlin and cash and under. 499 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 9: Well, I'm glad you did the payoff on the contractual 500 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 9: obligation because anytime you mentioned the Steelers, you are contractually 501 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 9: obligated that they've never had a losing record uder Mike Tomlin, don't. 502 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 9: I don't see it. I think they're always going to 503 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 9: be so well coached, they have such a great home 504 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 9: field advantage. They feel like a nine and eight type 505 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 9: of team. So I play how I played the Steelers 506 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 9: this year was to lose in the wild card round 507 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 9: at plus three twenty, because what that means is you 508 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 9: figure they're probably a playoff team, fringe wildcard team, and 509 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 9: that means they're going to I have to go on 510 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 9: the road and play either Buffalo or Baltimore or Kansas City, 511 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 9: and they're not going to win that game. So at 512 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 9: plus three twenty to make the playoffs and have that 513 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 9: first round loss, I thought that was a little bit 514 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 9: of an interesting way to kind of capitalize on what 515 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 9: you think might be a playoff team, but you don't 516 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 9: really think they're going to go very far in them. 517 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: I gotta say, I've been gambling on sports since I 518 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: was like fifteen years old. 519 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever made that bet. 520 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: The preseason wild card loser like That's a long time 521 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: to tie up your money for plus three twenty for 522 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: a very specific outcome like that, But precedent would suggest 523 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: that that's probably a very smart wager. 524 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: So congratulations on showing me a new way to bet 525 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: the NFL. 526 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 3: The Bears, by the way, you didn't send me a 527 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: tax congratulating that they are coming off of the three 528 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 3: peat of three straight offseason championships. It's okay, don't worry 529 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 3: about it. Does the off season ever convert? Are they 530 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: an over or an under team this year? 531 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 9: I think they're an under team, unfortunately, my man. Yeah, 532 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 9: I think they have a little too much hype in 533 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 9: thinking Ben Johnson's gonna turn come in right away and 534 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 9: completely turn them around. I remember you still as much 535 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 9: as it was high as not high as I am 536 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 9: on the Vikings, you still got the Packers, still got 537 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 9: the lines. It's a tough schedule, and uh it's I'm 538 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 9: still kind of taking a wait and see approach with 539 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 9: the with Caleb as well. So sorry to to burst 540 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 9: your bubble there to end the segment, but yeah, i'd 541 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 9: go under eight and a half there on the Bears. 542 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 9: I'm sorry, that's fine. 543 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: I mean, do you have any other NFL bet you 544 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: want to give out real quick thirty seconds? 545 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 9: I think the divide the reports of the demise of 546 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 9: the Kansas City Chiefs are a little exaggerated, and this 547 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 9: is not my co host Jeff Schwartz, mister Chieka being 548 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 9: in my ear. I think they solved a lot of 549 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 9: problems on the offensive line with Simmons. I think you 550 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 9: have a healthy year of wide receivers, a healthy year 551 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 9: at running back. Defensively, I think they'll be better. Obviously, Again, 552 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 9: like you can bet the Chiefs to win the division 553 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 9: at minus one twenty, you could potentially bet Patrick Mahomes 554 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 9: to win the MVP at a nice number. I think 555 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 9: this Chiefs team is still really good, and the fact 556 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 9: the way they lost the Super Bowl, I think you 557 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 9: can see them a little bit more motivated than usually. 558 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 9: It's a chance to get a really good team and 559 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 9: a really good quarterback and a really good head coach 560 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 9: going into the year a little bit extra motivated with 561 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 9: a little bit of a added chip on their shoulder. 562 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: Chris Filika, the Bear, We'll be seeing you on Big 563 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 3: Noon Kickoff. We'll be listening to the podcast. Thank you 564 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: for the time, my friend. 565 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 9: Thanks Danny anytime. 566 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 2: That's the Bear, one of the best in the business. 567 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: But I did go sixty five percent in the NFL 568 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: as you stop mentioning it. 569 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: Oh wait, I guess I really have no one else 570 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: to blame for that. 571 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: To myself, And it's true. The Bears are the all 572 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: hype team. 573 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: That's what happens when you're coming off a three p 574 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: when you've won three straight off seasons, there's going to 575 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: be a tremendous. 576 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: Amount of hype. It's an inevitability. 577 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: I just don't know if it'll be this year, so 578 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: we'll wait and see. But there's no part to me 579 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: that has any interest in betting the under. I'm Caleb 580 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: Williams and Ben Johnson this year, it's been a very 581 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: fun show. I'll be back each of the next two 582 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: days in for Colin. Can't wait to join the cast 583 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: of First Things First regularly for this football season, which 584 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: means my longtime best friend Nick Wright will be. 585 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 2: My new teammate at FtF and he'll join us tomorrow 586 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: on the herd. Danny Parkinson for Colin