WEBVTT - S3E5 Rufus Getting Married with Aaron Schwartz 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.560 Hey, I'm Aaron Schwartz. I played Bonja, I'm gossip Girl 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:18.640 and we are rewatching rufus getting there. Welcome back, listeners. 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.800 Do you want an only source into all things gossip crul? 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:28.320 You know you'll love it? X O x ol. Hey, 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:33.800 what's up? Hey everybody? Hi? Aeron dude, I'm doing good. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.360 How you doing? I'm in here. Sammy's excited right now. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.519 I don't know what I'm talking to somebody? What's going on? 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.080 Oh my gosh, we're talking to Aaron Schwartz today and 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:51.360 her beautiful dog Puppy's she's like, what are you doing? 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.080 She is too, she just turned to like a couple 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.040 of days ago. Yes, so handful. Yeah, but she's very 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.480 puppy like right she's she's rambunctious. I hear. So. It's 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.679 nice to see you both. Nice to see everybody here. Yes, 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.560 the last time we saw each other, this is Aaron Schwartz, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.759 everyone who played the lovely I'm gonna let you say 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.840 it with the accent. God knows, I might have lost 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.080 half of the accent the last time you did it. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.759 I think that's how Yeah, Vanya, I forget your last 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.280 name though, doesn't need one. I feel like it's just 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:34.760 very It's like Madonna, like, yeah, you just got it. Um, 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.040 but wait, let me ask about Sam. He's your dog's name, right, yes, yes, 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.760 So when you travel for work or like when we 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.520 were just in North or North Carolina? Is that where 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.160 we were? South Carolina? South Carolina, South Carolina? And when 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:50.800 I said no, I'm like, no, that's not okay. Yeah, 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.800 when we were in Charleston, which I loved. By the way, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.680 what do you do with your dog? I put her, 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.880 So it depends if I have friends. I moved to 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.000 Texas not too long ago, so I don't have a 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.960 ton of friends out here, but sometimes friends will watch her. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.080 But most of the time I keep her a place 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:14.040 called K nine Cowboy. It's very cute, very perfect. It's 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.840 a little house maybe like forty minutes. I do this 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:18.840 forty minute drive just to put her there because it's 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.480 kennel free and it's easy for her to like play 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.440 in a house with a bunch of other dogs, and 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.760 I just leave her there when well, yeah, because she's 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.320 like it's not easy to travel with that sized dog. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.440 Like are my dogs eleven you know, like eleven or 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.519 twelve pounds? So it's like very easy to bring her underneath, 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:40.320 like just yeah, I wish she was sometimes, Yeah, that 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.080 you have a place like that, because that's like very hard. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.240 I've had dogs where I couldn't travel, So to know 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:46.680 that you have a place where they're you know, can 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.600 run around and are taken care of, then you can 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.720 kind of go and like work without being stressed about it. Yeah, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.080 I do wish she could travel with me. I didn't 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.480 really think about that extensively before I got her. We 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.160 just have to get a tour bus, Aaron, you can 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:04.040 just do the van, I know, but you know, but 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.760 I've actually always been really inspired by Aaron for many 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.840 reasons as an actor, as an easy, tremendous friend, generous hearted, 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.240 lovely human. But he also is such an adventurous soul. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.520 So he's lived I think, you know, has this New 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.520 York East Coast family, lived in l A, did the 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.280 Hollywood thing, and then just picked up and went to Texas, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.400 lived in Israel for three years Israel, which I think 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.640 is so cool. It's so cool, right like, and he'd 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.639 like pass that. He he has that thing that we 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.720 talked about with Joanna Garcia. He always has that smile 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.920 to like you can see right now does not leave 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:42.600 your face. It's so so like warm, like warm and 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:48.200 beautiful and don't know, it's very true. But I'm like, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.920 what what Susanna I'll just said is like you have 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.040 like a very interesting story, and you've been to a 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.360 lot of places, and you've been an actor and worked 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.080 I mean like you've been in films that when I 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.640 was younger, if I would have own that we worked 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.040 on the same show together, sat like my younger self 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.680 would have flipped out like Mighty Ducks. Yeah, nobody knew 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:12.600 except for um, Matthew Settled. Matthew Settle. The first scene 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.960 last episode, I don't know, he came up to me 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.400 and was like, by the way, I know who you are, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.720 and I was like, am I in trouble? Like what's 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.760 going on? So that's the only person that ever knew. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.359 But also, you guys were pretty young. I was in 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.080 my early thirties at the time, and everybody on the 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.720 set was in their early twenties, So I don't think 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:38.039 it was like a thing that people really watched. Well, 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:42.120 speaking of young, you have this fascinating, um, you know, 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.040 sort of origin story as an actor because you were 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:45.600 on Mighty Ducks. When you were a kid. And then 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.760 you also were on what's the other movie? Um with Keenan, 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.640 Oh my god, Heavyweights, those movies that were kind of 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:57.279 cult classics. So you basically had this like Hollywood child 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.080 star thing. And I know that you've been working. I 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.600 don't know, you want to do something. Oh yeah, I 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.000 talk about later down the line. We've been working on 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:08.600 a project documentary on child stars. Yeah, that's awesome. It's 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.560 something that you're exploring and really invested in finding the 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:17.520 sort of psychological and emotional consequences of that kind of 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.960 like the stigma attached to child actors. You know. Going 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.240 back into the business when I was I was a 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.920 little kid, I left went to Israel for like three 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.120 four years off and on. I got back into the 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.359 business when I was i'd say twenty, but I didn't 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.800 really like really start hustling and getting an agent again 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.320 and really started from scratch. By the time I was 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.640 about twenty five, I did at Guiding Light, and then 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:45.279 like within not too long after that, I booked Manya 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.440 on Gossip Girl, and so that whole foray back into 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.680 the business was kind of like a little bit of 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.000 a you know, it was a little bit of a 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.520 shock to the system to get back into it in 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.800 my you know, late twenties, but I think it did 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:02.120 some thing where it allowed me to kind of stay 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.400 a little more grounded that I didn't keep on growing 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.760 through my late teens and early twenties in the limelight, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.800 and I think it helped me not you know, attached 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.760 to that stigma of child actors, which also can be 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.880 to like where it is kind of separate, you know 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.960 what I'm saying, in the sense of because you you 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.599 like getting to know yourself and yourself as an actor 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.840 all the way through all of that, because sometimes I 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.240 feel like you you you are a different actor in 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.200 your twenties and you were when you were on Mighty 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.480 Ducks than you are in your thirties. And sometimes if 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.840 you stay in that the whole time, it's hard for 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.240 people to disconnect and then reconnect in a new role 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.120 or a new film or so. I think it's like 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.680 quite awesome and neat and really amazing either. Something about 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:51.400 fame too, When you when you in the limelight and 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.839 you have fame, you kind of take on the persona 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.000 that people give you. I mean, I've seen it with 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.800 some of the younger castmates. They just got famous right 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.320 when I got on set and Gossip Girl, and I 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.400 can see some of the not in a negative way 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.159 at all. I just can see that some of the 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.360 stuff that even if it was tabloids, hopefully they didn't 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.440 listen to the tabloids, but you know, even just outside 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:18.440 fandom would kind of put on them. They kind of 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.960 took it as their personality in the beginning, and if 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.840 you're young and you don't really have a grounding on 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.560 your own personality, it could kind of envelop you and 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:33.360 you you're acting world, your personal life all kind of 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:38.600 becomes that same narrative, and it could be dangerous for sure. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.280 And there's probably something in that where it's like, because 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.640 if the world and people are appreciating it, like you're 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.040 being praised for it, and it's all this like wonderful 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.360 thing and it's the show that's hitting and everyone's liking 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:55.040 this about that character, it almost subconsciously probably feels like, oh, 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.160 if this feels right and it's working for all these 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.840 people that love it all over the world, then maybe 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.880 it's should bleed into all my other my life lanes 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.600 in my life. Yeah, And so you can you can 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.520 kind of see where that would happen and where it 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.800 could get like slippery or you know, depending on the 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:15.360 type of person you are, or how you can handle 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.680 it more well more well in anybody that I know. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.080 It's like you know that you you know your character 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.760 on Gossip Girl, you know, keep the fans don't separate 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.360 Jessica from your character that you are, you know, and 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.000 it's it becomes this thing where they talk to you 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.560 like you're her, and it could easily get just like 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:42.800 smeared into it. Yeah, it's a wild interesting world, right. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.079 It's so hard to be an actor for so many reasons, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:47.920 you know, And it's like we already have to do 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.240 so much like emotional maintenance to keep ourselves, you know, positive, 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.760 because there's so much rejection and it's such an unsteady 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:55.880 career path. And then on top of it, if you 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.120 do have some success that you have to you know, 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:03.160 stay grounded. And I have to keep it going. I 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.440 gotta stay relevant, I gotta stay It's like such an 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:10.560 anxiety written place to approach it to a lot of 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.240 people always ask did you love doing Gossip Grow Of 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:14.800 course I'm like, yes, it was such a good time 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:16.800 in our lives. It was such a good show that 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.280 so many people enjoyed, whether it was you know, getting 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.240 through you know, there's people that have come up to 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:28.080 us in South Carolina, remember and into Charlotte. Yes, like 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:32.880 now that was like my Charles, my mom was fighting 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.280 cancer and we really that was where we bonded and 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.320 got through that. Or you know, I had a really 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.760 tough pregnancy and I could check out and you know, 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:41.800 just be thankful. And so when you hear that and 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.040 see those types of things with fans, You're like, this 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.080 really is so beautiful that we get paid to do 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.280 something we love and it can affect people on some 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.800 sort of level in that way. And then there's times 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.720 where people like, well did you really love it like 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.200 with all you know, the fame that came with it, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.720 or the people that you know didn't like your character 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.840 so much, And I'm like, you know, it's it's a 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.920 it's a mine line to like even answer that question. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.160 I have to I have to like ride this like line, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.960 you know, like because yes, I was super blessed and 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.480 great and and you know what if people were affected 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.320 by how Vanessa was or came off in certain seasons 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.000 or the way she did certain things, to Dan, you 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.000 know that's part of the entertainment and the show that 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:23.560 we were in. Yeah, that's part because like sometimes loved 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.600 and then Hayden hearing Oh that girl, Yeah, I remember her, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.520 and I was like, I wish you could meet Jessica 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.880 because you would not feel this way. But it's so 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.320 crazy because it's also I'm like, no, in a million years, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.560 you know, you're as an actor, you were like, you 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.440 put all this time and effort into hoping that a 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.800 pilot that you do or show you a character you 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.880 play is able to keep coming back and keep growing 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.599 and the audience loves it. So I'm like, no, I 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.320 wouldn't change any of it. Um. But again, yeah, Vanessa 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.400 did certain things Jessica did not, so keep it separate. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.560 But it's like you said, they don't. So that's a 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.440 really good way to put it. Stephanie and Josh really 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:05.080 really stuck into you sometimes they did. Yeah. But speaking 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.640 of that, let's talk about your with Josh and Stephanie 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.240 or you're casting your story? What were you with Josh 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.520 and Stephanie? Were you in New York? Tell us, I 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.040 was in New York, so I'm born and raised in 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.200 New York and I was, I was getting back into 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.160 the business, and I I think it was a year 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.960 prior I was. Actually my ex told me I have 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.560 to be on the show. I remember my ex was like, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:32.840 you met Nikki Susan. She was fantastic and she was 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.120 a big girl fan, right huge, like right when right 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.000 when those billboards came up with like you know, like 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.120 two people like in the middle of it, and then 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.960 the ad was like, this is disgusting, don't let your 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.960 children watch it. I thought it was, but the parents, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.439 it was the parent council that was, oh yeah, it 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.559 was amazing. So she's like, you have to be honest, 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.319 and I'm I'm like this, do you know what's honey 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.439 about that? Sorry, I don't want to go off seeing 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.760 those billboards, the all the parent groups that were writing 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.400 those in that's what our marketing team did. They took 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.719 those quotes and then put it on like steamy billboards 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.760 with like Nate and Serena like naked in a pool 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.720 and Blair. So they did such a brilliant job anyway, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.320 and it was brilliant, and I think that was what 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.040 gave it that like momentum to like just shoot out 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.400 there and it became a fan favorite immediately. I didn't 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.000 know about it. She told me about it, and I 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:28.920 was trying to get back into the business and I 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.520 was doing things like I was hustling. I was like, 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.200 I gotta like get seen, you know, I just got 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.920 an agent and a manager, and I just decided to 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.640 go to these There's these intensives that people will do 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.040 to meet casting directors, and it's really to meet them, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.079 but it's supposed to be a class, and so it's 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.000 like this fine line, is it a class or are 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.920 you really trying to like network with casting directors. So 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.680 I would just it was mel A Naggler's mal cap 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.480 casting for the first and second season and then it 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.160 switched to Bowling Misha, But for the second season, I 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.040 would go to these intensives with Melli Nagler. I probably 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.560 paid her rent or her mortgage to that year. I 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:13.000 think I think I went like ten times, spending a thousand, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.360 and I was like, this is like going to spend 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.880 money to make money, Aaron, right, And they would just 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.080 like leave me alone. Almost she got to this point 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.560 where she started bringing me in for everything. And then 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.880 the Vanya one wasn't even supposed to be on the show. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:28.880 I think the Vanya one was supposed to be just 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.560 for Chasing the Rhodo, which was like the we've talked 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.880 about that before. Yeah, yeah, the spinoff the little web series. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.679 So they had introduced Vanya as the you know, as 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.040 the boyfriend figure. So it was born of the idea 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.440 of the spinoff. And then because Aaron was so fantastic, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.959 pH you know, just slotted right in and like he 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.960 made the most of Vanya. Yeah, all of a sudden, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.120 he's you know, popping up as a major plot player 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.640 in um, you know, g G proper. So it was 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.720 like such a cool thing that that, yeah, you know, 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.400 allowed for us to have a relationship. Yeah, we had 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.800 a great relationship, and it was I thought it was 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.400 just for the Verizon thing, and I don't know exactly 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.080 what happened, but I did the show first before the 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.200 Chasing the Road. I did the last episode of season 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:20.280 two first, and I was, man, I was nerve racked 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.480 because I was like, not expecting you get this to 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.320 do the spinoff and then they call you and they're like, hey, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.200 we actually want you to come to to work on 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.920 the c W show, to set on location. It wasn't 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.920 even in the studio and was that that was the 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.720 scene with paparazzi and it's the baseball that, Yeah, and 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.480 they're trying to get in there, they're trying to get 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:40.960 photos of Serena, and you're like pushing them out, pushing 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.680 people off. And I'm still working on the accent because 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.720 I just memorized the accent for the audition. And the 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.680 audition was funny because the audition wasn't the audition wasn't 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.920 supposed to be like he was kind of like I 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.880 made him kind of nerdy, and I don't think they 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.040 wrote it that way. I think they were like there 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.040 were people in the audition that were like trying to 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.480 look swab right, and I remember actually in the intensive, 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.760 Mela was saying, like make your audition different, like make 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:08.760 it different. So I was like, effort. I'm just gonna 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.120 go in and I'm just gonna like whatever. I've been 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.600 here a million times, I'm not gonna cast I'll just 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.200 go with it. And I like got myself look at 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.920 all nerdy and kind of did like a Don Nots 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:24.480 version of of a Russian dorman. And I got out 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.160 of there thinking, oh my god, I'm gonna get a 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.840 call from my agents saying you're an idiot, what are 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:33.200 you doing? And then somehow I banyas dorkiness made it 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.160 into the show. Well, that's what's so lovely about Vanya 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.400 is that this kind of earnestness and the fact that 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.960 he's such a sweet human. And so because I think 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.080 Dorota is a sweet, sweethearted person, the people like like 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.120 the two of them together because you were like, you know, 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.040 you believe that they were like, um, you know, good 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.040 people who could you take care of each other and 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:56.360 rot to crack the whip with Bonnia, but didn't such 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.960 like such a like a wholesome way, you know. But 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:05.040 and what's so like cool about the backstory and von 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.960 Yan de Rota is that this it was all things 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.080 that you never saw coming, which I know they do 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.960 that a lot in the show, but it was like 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.400 even in this episode, like at the end, I know, 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.960 I'm jumping forward when you're at the bar with Georgina, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.480 I'm like, wait, they were planting things and doing stuff. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.680 So when I hear the story of that's what your 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.160 audition you know process, and you know story was that 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.120 you went in for the you know, the spinoff and 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.600 then they asked you to come to set. Now you're 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:36.520 Serena's doorman the Vanderwoods and how much. Yeah, and then 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.040 you're sitting here and and this twist at the end 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.240 that you throw with Georgina, Now I'm like, wait, that's 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.400 gotta be through Blair and Derota, but like, we won't 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.200 know now for a couple episodes. But it's really wild 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:48.640 because it's so set up and go so smoothly, Like 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.400 something had to go down with Georgina because no one 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.200 on the Upper East Side is letting her get away 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.800 with what she pulled during this whole episode, which was 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.680 very vindictive and very wrong. And Georgina's she's not my 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.280 damn nerves because she was just not character you played that. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.520 You played that episode. I haven't seen that episode in 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.119 so long, and I was like, I know, she was 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:16.200 just day and then doing that to Dan and literally, yeah, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.119 we should probably say this. The episode is actually called 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.240 Rufus Getting Married Mary, the one that we're talking about 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.880 here today, so we have a lot of marriage plotlines, 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.480 and like you're saying, Georgina gets really nasty and like 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.840 really does some bad stuff here, and we get to 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.920 see this fantastic little moment of Vanya coming into totally 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.520 to save the day and like get rid of Georgina. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.600 So shall we say where we left off? But before 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.760 we do that, it's based on the movie title Rachel 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:47.400 Getting Married, which a little fun fact, Sebastian Stan who 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.080 is in this episode with all of us, is also 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:55.000 in that movie, so that's us. Like, okay, so I've 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.879 seen that. I don't remember that he was like on 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:06.479 the gas pedal mack then like, oh yeah, okay, So 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:10.040 we left off last time on Gossip Girls, Serena defused 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:13.800 a potential meltdown from disgrace actress Ursula, which was um 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.679 Tyra Banks at the cost of her job. She needed 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.320 to fend off Lily's design to send her off to college. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.320 On the bright side, Dan comes to terms with Olivia's 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.159 fame and identity, leaving hope for their future relationship, and 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.080 then Jenny begins letting go of her quest to break 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:33.439 school hierarchies and a lure for her own popularity. So 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.840 that is where we left off, and it's like we 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.600 kind of had that a little bit of a break 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.399 almost from some of the plot lines in that episode, 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.000 and that we're back with a vengeance today with this one. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.320 Um Lilian Riffus decided to move up their wedding day. 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.400 Chuck discovers a secret that Carter has been keeping from Serena, 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.600 which involves Brie and the Buckley's. Dan and Vanessa are 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.280 pulled into one of Georgina's schemes when she learns Scott 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.600 back to New York on a ruse. Also, Blair is 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.480 suspicious of Brie and she shares her concerns Nate. So 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.880 it's like, we're back to the brief stuff. We're back 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.840 to I knew Brie was in something up to something 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:11.160 from many well, see she's she plays it really well though, 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.000 in the sense of this sweet dynamic where you're like, Okay, 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.800 maybe she's just really going to fall for for Nate. 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.199 And I'm thinking the whole time that it's because of 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:24.760 their political families, like you know, like the Buckley's and 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:28.200 the you know, Archibalds. Like so I'm like, okay, that's 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.439 where this is going. And then of course, you know, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.600 then it has something to do with Carter and Serena 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.879 now and now it's like it's like a domino effect 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.440 every time, like it's always like boom boom, boom, boom 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.320 boom and then still that last Domino that's standing blows 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.000 your mind, like like you at the end of this episode, Erin, 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.480 I'm like, what, yeah, where that was crazy? And I 0:19:48.520 --> 0:20:03.959 got to play swab at one point I have to say, like, 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.160 like the whole Breeze storyline, Juanna plays it in such 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.840 a way that I really didn't. I was never convinced 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.199 that she was duplicitous or that she did have you know, 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.440 alter your motives. So it's it's really nice because then 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.199 you kind of at the end, it really is a 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.160 little bit of a heartbreak when she's when Nate comes 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.240 to her and says, were you're using me? And she 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:28.879 was and for what She was so endearing at the 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.080 end too, because she's also like, I'm really sorry to 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.240 say like me and anything, like I really am. He's like, no, 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:38.040 get out right, yes, okay. So it opens up with 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:41.120 Serena and Carter are happily together, Nate and bree they're 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.240 they get they're bouncing around. They keep cutting to each couple, 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:46.920 Dan as I am in, Olivia, Chuck and Blair and 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:50.800 bed together. Um. By the way, when they're doing this, 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:52.880 I'm like, these couples are just all real cute like 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.520 your guys are just cute, Like yeah, you know, even 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.840 even Brill and Brian Nate. At this point, I'm like, 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.720 I'm liking them. Dan and Olivia, I'm not quite sure 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.840 really what obviously what's going on there. I think it's 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.960 also like such a throwback to do the I am ng' 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.800 using vanessas doc you DOCU Girl ninety one or something. 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.960 Do you think Dan is okay Vanessa? So he's like 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.320