WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Learnin' The Blues

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The you've had your first lesson

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<v Speaker 1>in learning the Blues. Addition, as the Bengals playoff chances

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<v Speaker 1>take a hit with a gut wrenching overtime loss to

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<v Speaker 1>the San Francisco forty nine Ers. Coming up, you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches, and analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Then, in this week's

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<v Speaker 1>fun fact segment, you'll learn that Frank Pollock is not

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<v Speaker 1>only a great offensive line coach, but a sensational storyteller.

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<v Speaker 1>by subscribing wherever you get your podcast ASTs. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest thing since eighty Bryant. The current season of Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Live isn't doing much for me, but the one

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<v Speaker 1>cast member who consistently makes me laugh is Ady Bryant.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's her physical comedy, intentionally weird pronunciations, or one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent commitment to the musical. Shorts like the one

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<v Speaker 1>about regifting a Christmas candle, Aidy Bryant elevates every sketch

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<v Speaker 1>she's in. So here's to my SNL MVP Ady Bryant,

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<v Speaker 1>with a thumbs up to Kate McKinnon and Keenan Thompson too.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get to Sunday's game. After the two teams

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<v Speaker 1>traded punts on their opening series, the Bengals force the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers to punt again. The second time they

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<v Speaker 1>got the ball, Wishnavsky lets it rip, Phillips, moving forwards,

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<v Speaker 1>struggles to catch it, leases the ball. He muffed it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a wrestling match for the ball and the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine Ers recover at this Cincinnati twenty three yea. So

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers took over on the cusp of

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone, and while the Bengals defense did not

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<v Speaker 1>give up a first down, Robbie Gold kicked a short

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<v Speaker 1>field goal to give Sam Fran a three nothing lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Phillips was briefly injured when he muffed the punt, and

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Morgan took overs. The Bengals kick returner. He promptly

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<v Speaker 1>muffed the ensuing kickoff before recovering and getting tackled at

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<v Speaker 1>the fourteen. Cincinnati overcame that and drove to the San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco nineteen before settling for a field goal in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone that tied the game at three at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the first quarter. The Bengals d only gave

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<v Speaker 1>up two first downs in the first quarter, but Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan is too good of a play designer and the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers have too many good players to shut

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<v Speaker 1>them down all day. Second down at eight, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven Garoppolo fakes a handoff, no he did give

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<v Speaker 1>it to Deebo Samuel, spreading to the right, turns the

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<v Speaker 1>corner down the sideline into the end zone, touchdown. St. Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Deebo Samuel is listed as a wide receiver, but he

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<v Speaker 1>frequently lines up at running back, and that twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>yard run gave the Niners a ten three lead. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals cut the margin to four when they drove into

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone again before settling for a short field

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<v Speaker 1>goal with one forty two left in the half, and

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like Cincinnati might score again when the defense

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<v Speaker 1>forced to quit three and out one oh seven left

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. The forty Niners half to punt way

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<v Speaker 1>up into the air. Phillips calls for a fair catch

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<v Speaker 1>and the balls it's recovered by San Francisco at the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati thirty yard line. Second muff punt of the game

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<v Speaker 1>for Darius Phillips. Phillips did not return another kick or

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<v Speaker 1>punt for the rest of the game. Here's Mike Kilton

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinions, one of the hardest job is to

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<v Speaker 1>be a punt returner. You know, you got guys screaming

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<v Speaker 1>down and you just got a number one kissed the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in. You know he didn't do it, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not losing confidence in him. We know if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hands in space, you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to make plays for us. Those were the first

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<v Speaker 1>two umbles that Darius Phillips has lost this year. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense has been phenomenal this year after turnovers, only

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<v Speaker 1>allowing two touchdowns the first seventeen times they took the

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<v Speaker 1>field after a turnover, and it looked like they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to come through again when they forced an incomplete

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<v Speaker 1>pass on third and seven that would have forced a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal. Try, but on the play, Von Bell was

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<v Speaker 1>called for taunting to give the forty nine ers a

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<v Speaker 1>first down. Was it a good call? Here's Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't personally see it, but it sounds like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably wispen called historically this season with taunting.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta be careful because I haven't seen you yet.

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<v Speaker 1>But something feedback was that that's kind of wispen called.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the second time this year that Bell has

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<v Speaker 1>been called for taunting, and this time it cost the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals four points. Cooppolo catches the shotgun snap, he's back

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<v Speaker 1>to throw, has time, looks around, floats it down toward

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<v Speaker 1>the two caught pie Kittle extends the ball to the pylon,

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown out. San Francisco. Man talk about mistakes, fumbles, penalties, taunted, penalties,

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<v Speaker 1>all it is a self destruction. It made the halftime

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<v Speaker 1>score seventeen six, San Francisco. Here's Sam Hubbard. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>beat yourself. I think that really is what comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to it. The good teams they don't beat themselves. They

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<v Speaker 1>will make those mistakes. And we want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>good team. You know, we do a lot of good things.

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<v Speaker 1>There's bright moments, But when it comes down to it,

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<v Speaker 1>there's situations where we can't make the mistakes we've been

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<v Speaker 1>making the last two weeks to win games. As for

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<v Speaker 1>tight end George Kittle, he destroyed the Bengals all day,

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<v Speaker 1>finishing with thirteen catches for one hundred and fifty one yards.

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<v Speaker 1>We tried everything. He's one of the best tight ends.

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<v Speaker 1>We've known that for a long time. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had similar production last week. I think he almost

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<v Speaker 1>had two hundred yards receiving. And it's it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he surprises people. When a guy is that explosive and

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<v Speaker 1>that big, that kind of hands, that catch radius, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of ways, and I promise you, we

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<v Speaker 1>try to like hell to take him away, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just he finds way to make those plays. The deficit

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<v Speaker 1>got bigger in the third quarter. The Bengals opened the

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<v Speaker 1>second half with three straight running plays and had to

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<v Speaker 1>put on fourth and one. The forty nine ers answered

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<v Speaker 1>with a field goal to take a twenty to six lead.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals responded with a nice drive, marching to the nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but a sack knocked him out of the red zone

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<v Speaker 1>and forced them to call on kicker Evan McPherson Harris's snap,

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<v Speaker 1>Hubert puts it down. The kick has plenty of distance

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<v Speaker 1>and it is wide left. Told it left. The misery

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<v Speaker 1>extended for the Bengals today, as they are having a

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<v Speaker 1>wide variety of failures in every aspect of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>To that point, there had been three muffs in the

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<v Speaker 1>kicking game, a taunting penalty on defense that turned a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal try into a touchdown, and three trips into

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<v Speaker 1>the red zone on offense without scoring a touchdown. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed highly unlikely that the Bengals would rally from fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>down in the fourth core, but then again, they have

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow and he was close to perfect for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the game. Fourth down in five in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone, the Bengals line up to go for trailing

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<v Speaker 1>twenty to six at the seventeen of San Francisco. Three

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<v Speaker 1>receivers left, one right. Burrow has the ball. He's back

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<v Speaker 1>to throw, scrambling left, turns back toward the right, running

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<v Speaker 1>to the right, looking down field, throws into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Baby to catch in the back line around touch

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<v Speaker 1>down Bengals Jamar Chase hauls it in have The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>are alive with nine twenty to go. It was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to tell on TV just how remarkable that play was.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Burrow threw the ball in the opposite direction of

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<v Speaker 1>where Chase was running in the back of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>When I threw it, he was still running left, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did a great job of you know, we were

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<v Speaker 1>just on the same page. I knew exactly when he

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<v Speaker 1>was seeing, and he knew exactly what I was seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I he was running left. It through it right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he put his food in the ground and went

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<v Speaker 1>and got it. I don't really know why he did that,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was just saying, you know, he was throwing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball away from the defender because the defender got

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<v Speaker 1>a ten of SIPs which way. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really kind of smartn't you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>food me off the So that was actually a good

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<v Speaker 1>play by him. That made a twenty to thirteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals defense got two straight stops to give Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. The first time they got him the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals had to punt, but the second time, Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>started at its own thirteen with two forty to go

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<v Speaker 1>and drove down the field to tie the game one

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five on the clock, a two by two formation,

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow back to throw, looking firing deep for Chase in

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. Touchdown down Joe Burrow and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>as he delivers to Numero uno, Jamar Chase, one nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>on the clock as he beat Thomas and now the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals will line up for the extra point with a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to tie it with one nineteen to go. You

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't put that ball on a better spot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase ran a great route and Joe Burrow threw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball over the outside shoulder. The only guy that could

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<v Speaker 1>make a plan that football was Jamar Chase. Unbelievable catch,

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<v Speaker 1>better throw. Here's Burrow and the Bengals come back. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've kind of been a second half team the whole season.

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<v Speaker 1>We figure out what we're seeing and then we go

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<v Speaker 1>and attack it. You know, it's a's four quarter game.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have ups and downs throughout the game, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the first half of the second half, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just got to finish strong and try to find wins.

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<v Speaker 1>The only negative about the touchdown was that it left

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<v Speaker 1>enough time on the clock for the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 1>to answer and a nineteen yard pass from Garoppolo to

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<v Speaker 1>Kittle on third and ten gave seventeen year veteran Robbie

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<v Speaker 1>Gould a chance to end it. On the final play,

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven yards away from the left hash to win

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<v Speaker 1>it for San Francisco. The kick is on its way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a line drive kick. It is oh good, he

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<v Speaker 1>missed it. Edward I handed over time tide at twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals won the toss and got the ball, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>they could win the game by scoring a touchdown. Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>hit Te Higgins for twenty six yards. After a run

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<v Speaker 1>by Joe Mixon got stopped for no gain, Burrow hit

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<v Speaker 1>c j Uzamba for a gain of twenty three. It

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<v Speaker 1>was first and ten at the San Francisco twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>In the fourth quarter and overtime, Burrow went eleven for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen for two hundred ten yards, two touchdowns and no picks,

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<v Speaker 1>for a passer rating of one fifty four point eight.

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<v Speaker 1>But rather than letting Burrow go for the juggular, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals handed it to Mixon for a gain of four,

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<v Speaker 1>then handed it to Joe again for a gain of three.

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<v Speaker 1>On third and three, Burrow dropped back to throw and

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<v Speaker 1>got sacked. Joe was asked about the play calling on

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<v Speaker 1>the final drive. Whatever play calls is called, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>execute to the best of our ability. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>good drive there, we just weren't able to close it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe wasn't about to publicly second get the coaches, but

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor second guest himself when he was asked the

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<v Speaker 1>following question by my former colleague at Fox nineteen, Joe Daneman,

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<v Speaker 1>is there ever a thought as a play caller when

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback's hot to stick with a hot hand and

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<v Speaker 1>ride him. Yeah, yep, I agree with you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's that. That's one that'll keep you up

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<v Speaker 1>at night. You know, we got a quarterback that can

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<v Speaker 1>win us a lot of games, and you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one more pass instead of a run there. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>if we hit that run, I feel great about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we didn't, and so then you go back to hindsight,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure I'll feel a lot of that tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan McPherson kicked a forty one yard field goal to

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<v Speaker 1>give the Bengals their first lead all day, twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty, But that meant the forty nine ers would

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance to either tie it or win it.

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<v Speaker 1>From the twelve yard line. Garoppolo fakes a handoff short

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<v Speaker 1>throw caught by a UK ten five dives for the pieline.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes out of bounds first. Wow, he's out of

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<v Speaker 1>bounds at the two where it will be first in goal.

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<v Speaker 1>After a few it is a touchdown. Came over. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bitterly disappointing defeat for the Cincinnati Bengals. They rally

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<v Speaker 1>from fourteen down in the fourth quarter, take the lead

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<v Speaker 1>in overtime, and cannot stop to San Francisco forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>ers from driving seventy five yards for a game winning touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>The final score San Francisco twenty six, Cincinnati twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Not as painful as Montana to Taylor, but still painful.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are Sam Hubbard and Mike Hilton drive at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you got to stop them there, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't. So I'm proud of you know, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the guys on my team that we went out there

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<v Speaker 1>in battle. Nobody I don't even know what we were

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<v Speaker 1>down at one point, but we just kept sticking together,

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<v Speaker 1>getting stops, climbing back into it. Nobody you know, pointing fingers,

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, it's tough. It's tough, tough to win

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<v Speaker 1>in this league. These last two week we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dug ourselves in some depoles that we weren't able to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of. And you know, it's too lossy that

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like we played to our standard. We should

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<v Speaker 1>win those games. And we know as a team we

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<v Speaker 1>got to start faster and we gotta finish finished like

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<v Speaker 1>we've been finishing, but that first half, we just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>come out with more urgency and in more fight. Had

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals won, they would have moved into a tie

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<v Speaker 1>for first in the AFC North with the Ravens, who

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<v Speaker 1>not only lost in Cleveland on Sunday, but saw Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson taking off the field on a cart with an

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<v Speaker 1>ankle injury. Baltimore has dropped too straight and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't take advantage of the opportunity. Here's Burrow and when

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the teams that you're fighting for the

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<v Speaker 1>division with loses, you you got to take advantage of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we haven't been able to the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, like you said, missed opportunities. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>would no longer be a wild Card team. If the

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<v Speaker 1>season ended today, they fall into ninth on the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>Totem Pole and seven teams get in. Cincinnati's final four

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<v Speaker 1>games are at Denver, home against Baltimore, home against Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>and on the road in Cleveland. All four teams have

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<v Speaker 1>winning records. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>and Google Play. Now time for postgame analysis with my

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast partner Dave lapham Lap. This is a second guesser's

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<v Speaker 1>field day, as the Bengals drove in overtime down to

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty six yard line. They had at first in

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<v Speaker 1>ten and called two straight running plays that didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>very well. Eventually, Joe Burrow got sacked and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>kicked a field goal that did not turn out to

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<v Speaker 1>be the game winning points. Zach Taylor is pretty candid

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<v Speaker 1>When asked about it after the game, he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with you. I'm probably gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time getting to sleep tonight. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he is. You know that that ended up getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit curious, particularly the way that they were They

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<v Speaker 1>were moving the ball through the air in big chunks.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just that driving overtime, but the drives in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. I mean, Joe Burrow was unbelievable in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. In fact, it was unbelievable for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the game came down to two things. Turnovers.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals went minus two with the kicking game funnels

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<v Speaker 1>of all things. Man, that's a killer. In red zone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are when the number one and number

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<v Speaker 1>three offenses in the NFL and touchdown red zone touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>percentage efficiency, and the forty nine ers went two for

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<v Speaker 1>four scored two touchdownes. The Bengals go one for five

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone, only twenty percent conversion as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifty percent in a game that you lose

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<v Speaker 1>in overtime. In my mind, that's a massive difference right there.

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<v Speaker 1>George Kills awesome, He's had as many as fifteen catches

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<v Speaker 1>in a game. He's mad that had more than two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards in a game. He had more than one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty. Last week against Seattle, he had thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>catches for one fifty one today. Why can't a team

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<v Speaker 1>stop George Kittle? It's remarkable, you know, and and you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. I mean, they've got good recite wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not like they have you know, Jerry Rice

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<v Speaker 1>and John Taylor out there. You know, Kittle, he just

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<v Speaker 1>he seems to He's so savvy, he's so smart, he's

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<v Speaker 1>so strong, he's so physical. He's just just as as

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<v Speaker 1>good a football player as as I've seen, honestly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what the position this guy approaches. Every

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<v Speaker 1>single down that it's the last play to win a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. Every single snap this guy takes, He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those one of those guys that you just you

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<v Speaker 1>feed off his energy and enthusiasm. I mean, he is

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<v Speaker 1>so serious. He takes the game of football so seriously

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<v Speaker 1>that it's contagious. It's it's unbelievable to watch the guy perform.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a really costly, painful loss, a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>move into a tie with Baltimore. We don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen with Lamar Jackson, who has carted out today,

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<v Speaker 1>you're down by fourteen and the fourth quarter rally to

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<v Speaker 1>tie it, to take the leading overtime. You were in

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room. How devastated was that room? It was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was quiet, quiet in there, and guys were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the many smiles, that's for darn't sure.

0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.800
<v Speaker 1>And and they just were very reflective, stunned. In a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cases. Um, you know, it's like in those situations.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in those situations, and it's almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>bomb goes off, you know, and you just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened, why it happened, how it happened, or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like anything else. And uh, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be that dramatic, particularly with what goes on in

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<v Speaker 1>today's world, but I mean, it's it's it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost uh, it's it's almost beyond comprehension that that something

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<v Speaker 1>like that unfolded the way it did, you know, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>after the amount to come back, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>get back in two weeks in a row. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're down twenty four nothing to score twenty two to

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<v Speaker 1>make it again, and then never take a lead though

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<v Speaker 1>and this one though, they come back from down two

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<v Speaker 1>scores in the fourth quarter, tie it, take the lead

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<v Speaker 1>in overtime, and then don't finish it so they're closer.

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<v Speaker 1>But still, man, they just have to they have to

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<v Speaker 1>quit the self destruction. I mean, these teams are good

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<v Speaker 1>enough teams. We say it every week. These teams were

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<v Speaker 1>all fighting for the playoffs. They're good enough to beat you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you help them, you're done. You're cooked. Forget it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's over. You can't help football teams beat you by stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>silly mistakes, whether it's dumb penalties, turnovers, whatever the case

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<v Speaker 1>may be. You just they're gonna have to be eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>And think about it this way too. In the last

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks, they've had four turnovers that weren't forced. Two

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<v Speaker 1>muffed punts today that led to ten points, that Jamarches

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<v Speaker 1>juggle that are raised to seventy one yard touchdown and

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<v Speaker 1>became an interception last week, and Joe Mixon's fumble where

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't really forced. He was just kind of doing

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<v Speaker 1>a jump cut and lost control of the ball. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad enough to commit turnovers, it is ten times

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<v Speaker 1>worse when the other team doesn't even force it. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's just like saying, here you go, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this football game, you know, I really I

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<v Speaker 1>can compete with you, but I'm still gonna let you

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<v Speaker 1>win it. Here you go, I'll just give it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>The only one that came close for them from a

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<v Speaker 1>turnover standpoint was Jimmy Garoppolo dropping and think took up

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<v Speaker 1>for tour Us bounce. But other than that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they played like a playoff team in terms of taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of the football. The Bengals didn't, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll guarantee you Darren Simmons is fit to be tied.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's probably pulling hair out by the roots

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak. I mean, because I've heard him so

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<v Speaker 1>many times say to return, guys, the primary thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest thing I need out of you is an ability

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<v Speaker 1>to track the football and catch the damn thing. Heard

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<v Speaker 1>him today In a game the Bengals wind up losing

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<v Speaker 1>by three points. They handed San Francisco four points? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it four? Final margin? Four? No? Three? Because there's no

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<v Speaker 1>extra yeah, said twenty six, twenty three. But they gave

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco four points. When vone Bell gets called for

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<v Speaker 1>taranting absolutely and that one, you know, I understand the intent,

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<v Speaker 1>but the pendulum has swung too far, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's when you're when you're in a hotly contested game

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<v Speaker 1>and the emotions are high. There's nothing wrong with a

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<v Speaker 1>little celebration of a play that you made. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not like you're in a guy's face and

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<v Speaker 1>mocking him, and it's just you know. The thing is, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to realize that if you're going to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>separate yourself from somebody and do a celebration. Don't walk

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<v Speaker 1>up to it. When he walked up to an opponent

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<v Speaker 1>and did it, he's done, he's done. He maybe had

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<v Speaker 1>something to say too. You can't do it use somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else as a prop in your celebration. You can't include

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else. If you want to just you know, let it,

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<v Speaker 1>let energy and you know, emotion boil. Do it alone,

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<v Speaker 1>Go find a quiet spot to do it. Man, those

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<v Speaker 1>things are killer. That was so costly unbelievable. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we have been going through the negative and there's

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<v Speaker 1>lots of it. Let's talk about the biggest positive. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrows unbelievable. He estimated his velocity at eighty to eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent because of the injured finger. Today, three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight passing yards, two touchdowns, one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>one yards in the fourth quarter alone when they had

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<v Speaker 1>to have it. The dude stepped up and delivered time

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<v Speaker 1>and time again. The future is so bright with this

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<v Speaker 1>guy at quarterback. And he sprayed the ball around. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing too. He goes five times to Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>for one hundred and fourteen yards. Every one of te

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<v Speaker 1>higgins catches were nineteen yards or more, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of more. That's two weeks in a row that he's

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<v Speaker 1>caught every ball he's caught his fifteen yards and more,

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<v Speaker 1>and today it's nineteen yards a more every single catch.

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<v Speaker 1>He averaged well over twenty yards a catch. Five catches

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<v Speaker 1>by Higgins, five catches by Chase, four catches by Zama,

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<v Speaker 1>four catches by Tyler Boyd, four catches by p Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's unbelievable distribution of the football. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's spraying around to all quadrants and being patient with

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. And he's unbelievable. He is such a

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<v Speaker 1>competitive guy. And with that said, uber competitive, but always

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>unbelievably composed. He has the perfect balance. I mean it's

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like that's juggling act to be that competitive. But never lou,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, never go over the top where you're hurting

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 1>yourself because your emotions. He has the perfect recipe, the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect formula for success. It's amazing to watch the guy

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<v Speaker 1>nothing flusters, the guy saying stone face during the entire

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<v Speaker 1>football game, pregame, post game, in the press room, doing

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<v Speaker 1>press conferences. He is amazing. Nor the word to describe it.

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<v Speaker 1>As we chat post game. We don't know the status

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<v Speaker 1>of Trey Hendrickson. It obviously was scary when they brought

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<v Speaker 1>out a cart just before halftime and then he got

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<v Speaker 1>up and walked to the sideline and walked to the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room. So that was encouraging, but I'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if he's able to come back next week. Yeah. I mean,

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.400
<v Speaker 1>back injuries are tricky. I mean, I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>it is. You'd assume it's lower back, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Um you know, I have I've had an

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>issue in my back that was between my shoulder blades

0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>one time, and that was about as problematic as anything

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<v Speaker 1>because you know everything you're doing with your upper body

0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and your shoulders and arms you know, and and then

0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 1>back injuries in general. I mean, when you're messing with

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<v Speaker 1>your spine and your back and the muscles that's around

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it and everything. Man, that's that's no joke, and that's

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 1>that's nothing to mess with. So yeah, to think that

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<v Speaker 1>he would be able to come back if it unless

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<v Speaker 1>it was just totally musculature and all it did was

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>spasm and tightened up to the point where he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>move and it relieved itself for some reason. I mean,

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>if it was something like that, But if it's if

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<v Speaker 1>it's anything else with other soft tissue or other things

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<v Speaker 1>around there, and you certainly have to be careful with

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<v Speaker 1>back problems, that's for sure. So four games to go.

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<v Speaker 1>The Broncos won by four touchdowns today, the Chiefs kick tail.

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<v Speaker 1>The other games are within the division. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to win those games. The Bengals have gone from

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<v Speaker 1>being in a pretty good shape to now a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>uphill climb to qualify for the postseason. There's no question.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's gonna be so many games you look

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<v Speaker 1>back on and you say, ah, if and but it's

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas time. If from Butler Candy and that has to

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<v Speaker 1>be Christmas every day. But all the teams can say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and the thing, the thing you gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>careful about Cleveland. Cleveland's got a winning record now and

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<v Speaker 1>they're the only ones that have a tiebreaker against the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the Bengals and thrash them here here Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have to go up in the lake and the last

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<v Speaker 1>game of the season and if that's a game you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta win to qualify the playoffs, or win the division

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<v Speaker 1>to qualify the playoffs, or where it may be, that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to be an easy, easy dynamic whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, yeah, they're they've they've they've started to paint

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in a corner. They're giving themselves no margin for

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<v Speaker 1>error because of error that they've had in trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get to that final four games of the season. They're

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<v Speaker 1>finally there and it's the final quarter of such. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be easy on an every day,

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<v Speaker 1>every week basis. It is going to be like you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing a playoff game. And that's that's how you have

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<v Speaker 1>to approach it. That's the intensity level of it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>we saw last week, that's what we saw this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be the same the last four

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<v Speaker 1>games remaining no different or on Sunday's win. Joined Lap

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<v Speaker 1>and Lance McAllister for Bengals Line Monday Night from six

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<v Speaker 1>to nine on seven hundred WLW. Now time for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's fun Facts segment, where you are about to get

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<v Speaker 1>to know a Bengals coach who turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>an exceptional storyteller. Time for some fun facts with offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line coach Frank Pollock. Born in Camp Springs, Maryland, near Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 1>before attending high school in Phoenix, Arizona. Where did you

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<v Speaker 1>spend the bulk of your childhood and what did you

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<v Speaker 1>like to do as a kid. Grew up in Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>I moved out there when I was two. My parents

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<v Speaker 1>were in the Navy, and when they met and got

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 1>married and had me and we moved out to Phoenix.

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>So I grew up Phoenix seventies and eighties. And I

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 1>love sports, love football right from the get go, and

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<v Speaker 1>just did all the sports growing up as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>like probably every other kid, and just got a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I always assume, and maybe it's stereotypical that the child

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<v Speaker 1>of military parents has a very disciplined life as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the case for you. Yeah, I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>they were military parents because they got out like right

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<v Speaker 1>after I was born, within two years, because then my

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>younger sister was born in the same DC area and

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<v Speaker 1>then we left, So I know, we really remember my

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>dad ever being in the military. I was like two,

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<v Speaker 1>so but yeah, I mean I was disciplined. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Cleveland and then went to Benedict in

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<v Speaker 1>high school and so kind of a you know, midwestern

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 1>upbringing out there in the West Coast. You know, discipline

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<v Speaker 1>was big in our house, and you know, so he

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>kept me in line if every got a little squirrelly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun facts with Frank Pollock. You're a big man.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a former NFL offensive lineman. Were you always the

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<v Speaker 1>big kid in the neighborhood. No, Actually, I was a

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<v Speaker 1>late bloomer. I was decent sized young with them. By

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<v Speaker 1>the time I got the high school, everyone was taller,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than me. It's funny to see some of my

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<v Speaker 1>high school JV team pictures and some of my good

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>buddies that they were all taller and bigger than me,

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>and now I tower over them. So I was a

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<v Speaker 1>late bloomer and grew a ton right before my senior

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<v Speaker 1>year and then obviously throughout college. When it came time

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<v Speaker 1>for college, you became a lumberjack at Northern Arizona University

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>y NAU. It was the only scholarship offer I had

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>outside of a couple of local junior colleges, so I

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>took it and ran with it. Northern Arizona has a

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable record of sending coaches to the NFL. Who did

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<v Speaker 1>you overlap with as a player and then as a

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<v Speaker 1>young assistant coach? Yeah, I was very fortunate to be

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<v Speaker 1>coached by some incredible coaches early on in my in

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>in college, my UH our my office, A line coach

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<v Speaker 1>my my sophomore junior years was Bill Callahan and then

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<v Speaker 1>before him, actually for one year really my true sophomore year,

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I had a late redshirt hardship there, but was Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Reid was my line coach before coach Callahan came in,

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<v Speaker 1>and then UH the OC for most of those years

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<v Speaker 1>four out of the five was Brad childress Um. Marty

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<v Speaker 1>morning Wig was a young GA running back coach on

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>that staff. Steve Hagen, who coached a long time in

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the league tight ends and receivers, was our was our

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>receiver's coach. Um, I was very fortunate. And then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a few good coaches kind of came in

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<v Speaker 1>after me when I had left on a different staff.

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And actually Brad Craigthorpe's dad was on that staff. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the younger Zampeeze kens Ampez was on that staff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>drawing a blank to head coach Carl Durell at Colorado

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>was on that staff. All these young guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>gone and have great career so um, and he's had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Mike Shanahan coach there early in his career. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drawing a blank. Now I'm the old New England

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>old line coach's Karnekia's he coached there early in his career.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of one of those unique, weird places.

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<v Speaker 1>I always call it the cradle to coaches on the

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<v Speaker 1>West coast. I know Miami, Ohios got that title on

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<v Speaker 1>the east of the Mississippi. I'm gonna I'm gonna claim

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<v Speaker 1>it on the west Mississippi. RIGHTFULLYSA, we're visiting with Frank Pollock.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Bill Callaghan, who is the brother the dad

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<v Speaker 1>I should say of offensive coordinator Brian Callahan. He was

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor's head coach at Nebraska. He is a big

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<v Speaker 1>reason why you became a coach. Correct, Yeah, he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>He's been huge impact on my life from a player

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<v Speaker 1>in coaching, I'm a member writing him a letter when

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing that I wanted to come in ga

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 1>for him at Wisconsin and then uh, and he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>me back, nice letter saying that'd love to have you

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<v Speaker 1>ga for me. In fact, I saved that letter, and

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<v Speaker 1>years later when I ended up coaching with him for

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>him in Dallas as his assistant, I showed him that letter.

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<v Speaker 1>He was flabbergast that I still kept it. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>been huge for me. Learned a ton and still learning

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a ton from him. He's been been very fortunate in

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<v Speaker 1>that regards. You learned a degree in advertising if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get into coaching, Is that what you would have done? No,

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>it was the classic. I didn't want to I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go down to the pe route. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>something a little bit different, So I just decided advertising

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a lot of math in it. Yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that, But yeah, I kind of always knew I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to coach. I tried to stay away from it

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<v Speaker 1>later in my life and then got back into it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where my badgion is. After being named an All

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<v Speaker 1>American in Northern Arizona, you were a sixth round draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick by the forty nine ers in nineteen ninety. Describe

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>your draft experience. It was funny you ask. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a little different than how they do things now. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of a drawn out process over three days,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, it went like Saturday, Sunday, and Monday

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like the last day. So my agent

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<v Speaker 1>at the time in Phoenix had a you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>big to do party and whatnot during the first day

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft, and he had a bunch of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>high first round draft guys. I knew I clearly was

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>not going to be taking that day, but just enjoyed

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>the festivities. But I was under the impression that maybe

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the next day I might go, And then I didn't

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>get any information and so I had to get up

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<v Speaker 1>early on Monday morning go to his office. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a little kid in Phoenix, and I was just a wreck.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're getting into the later rounds, the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>rounds gone, the seventh rounds gone. It's about we had

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<v Speaker 1>twelve rounds. We're in like the ninth and tenth round.

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<v Speaker 1>My agents calling around teams. He calls the Washington Redskins

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<v Speaker 1>and hits up Charlie Castle. I guess he showed interest

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in me pre draft draft and he goes, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean the Niners took him way back in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth round and he goes, what, they haven't even called him?

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>And he tells me that. I go, I'm not believing

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I get a phone call. So he calls the Niners

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and he said, yeah, yeah, we're gonna call him. We

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<v Speaker 1>were just we just worked out a draft a trade

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<v Speaker 1>and we haven't a chance to call him yet. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's songs up in a nutshell. It's like, you know,

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there's some six round old line guy. We'll get back.

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to them whenever we can get to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was kind of my draft experience, but nonetheless

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<v Speaker 1>I got my foot in the door. That might be

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest example of how the draft has changed that

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<v Speaker 1>I have ever heard. You were an NFL player for

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<v Speaker 1>nine years, seven in San Franz, two in Denver. You

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>won a Super Bowl ring with the ninety four San

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Francisco forty nine ers when they beat the Chargers. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you cherish the most about your experience as an

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>NFL player? The great teammates, the camaraderie with all my teammates.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I told the guys all the time, that's what you're

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna miss. Number one. The great experiences and that we had.

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>We wanted a lot of football games. Loved my experiences

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>with all the different coaches that I came through the

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 1>nine years that I was there and in Denver, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just just those great experiences and being a part

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>of being able to, you know, play pro football is

0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>a dream come true. And being able to be on

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<v Speaker 1>so to a great winning organization. Again, a championship there

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<v Speaker 1>with the Niners was tremendous. Something always were relish. We're

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>doing fun facts with Frank Pollock. The list of Hall

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of Fame players that were your teammates is remarkable. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to name a few, and I would like you

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<v Speaker 1>to just share a memory or a description, whatever comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind. Joe Montana prankster. First thing that comes to

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>my training camp. He'd take guys bikes and throw them

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<v Speaker 1>up into the trees. We had at Rockland Community Seri

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Community College in rock And, California, because he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in late meetings. He knew the Skiss system

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<v Speaker 1>so kind of an old veteran. They let him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the meetings early and you'd find it was on

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<v Speaker 1>the campus as like he'd ride bikes to the meetings

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>back to the dorms and he would put guys bikes

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<v Speaker 1>in the trees. Great guy. Loved to go out with

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the full line especially and take him out, treat him

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>out for some drinks and dinners and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. Great guy. Did he prank you, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he never pranked me, but he did save me from

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>getting just abused as a rookie from Charles Haley. But

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he was guy, was constantly like to pick on rookies.

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 1>One day in the locker room, we would sign these

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>autograph footballs in front of the equipment room every day.

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 1>It was part of our deal. And then Charles Haley

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>sees me over there, so he's just you know, taking

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>his ribbings, getting his opportunities at me as a rookie.

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.760
<v Speaker 1>And Joe it's lockers right there, and he said, hey, hey, Charles,

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>leave him alone. And then I was like, oh, this

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 1>is a great guy. And then so Charles never mess

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with me again because Joe told him not to not

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 1>to mess with me. It's like, okay, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have new found respect for Joe Montana John Elway

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<v Speaker 1>John Ell was another guy loved hanging out with the

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>old line Um good time guy loves loves to hang

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.839
<v Speaker 1>out with the fellas. He was rehabbing his shoulder had

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>an injury, and then I was on an ir with

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>a back surgery that year. So at some point doing

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>rehab together, like they have you off to the side,

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 1>he was gonna start throwing some balls. So they asked

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>if I would just go stand over there and he's

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw these deep out routs to him. I just

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>had to stand there. Oh my god. I mean he

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>must have been like thirty forty yards away, and how

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>hard he through. My hands were hurting in red and

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>hurt afterwards. I mean, I was just trying to protect

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>my face from not getting just I mean, it is

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous how hard that guy throws. That was like, like, wow,

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>it's impressible. They talk about the Lway cross, the point

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>on the end of the football where you've got the

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>scenes that come together, and how he used to leave

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>an indentation of that cross on guy's chest and stuff

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 1>that's legit because he zipped the ball in there. Man,

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>it was crazy. Jerry Rice, unbelievable work ethic. I shared

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>stuff like this with my guys all the time. This

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 1>guy was so talented, but you were never ever going

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to outwork him. He was just my niacle over it.

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Just relentless prepractice, post practice. It was it got. He's

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>just an animal on how he would work out in

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>his conditioning. His work ethic was unbelievable, unbelievable. Ronnie Lott.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Ronnie Lot is one of my most favorite individuals. I

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>got the utmost respect for that guy for how he

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>was on the field and in the locker room. But

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>him after a years later before I got on the

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 1>coach and I got to do some business stuff with

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>him and got to learn just get to know him

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better. Such a class to act and

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>just a man, a man's man, a gentleman. He does

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot for the community with his all star helping

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>kids charity. He is genuine, he's he taught me as

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>an early player leadership from the locker room and chemistry

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 1>matters more than anything on a football team. I played

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>with him for two years, and when he left to

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders. We had a slow start the next year

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>and we had a team only players meeting and I'm

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a young guy. I'm as when they're listening, and all

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the old guys our leaderships then got up in every

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>one of them to a man reference where Ronnie would

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>say this, Ronnie would do that. He wasn't on our

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>team anymore. I'm like, when I coach someday, never forget that.

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's all about leadership. Got come from the players,

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and team chemistry matters more than anything. Line one culture matters.

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Dion Sanders he was. He came in with all the

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>hype right primetime. You're like, God, what's this guy gonna

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 1>be like? You know? And then when he came in,

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he was just like one of the guys that all

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that was just his persona off the field to get

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>himself endorsements. He was just a regular guy, worked his

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>butt off. His work ethic was right up there with

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the fellas and how we ran things there,

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and his talent and speed were incredible. We had a

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty good player. Dexter Carter was our kick returner, first

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick out of Florida state same year as me.

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Fast and he was good. And then Dion got there,

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Well he's gonna start returning kicks, and then you could

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>literally see the difference of speed and I'm like, oh

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 1>my god, that's when I ever realized how fast he was,

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and some of these players in this league was we

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:01.760
<v Speaker 1>could literally see the difference where Dexter Carter is not slow,

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>he's fast, and you're like, holy cow up close and

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>seeing that. Um And he would lay out his whole uniform, pregame, ritual,

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>his shoes, his socks like it was like one of

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>them chalk lines of a dead body. His pants, his

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>band dans, his sweet towels, all that laid out, his

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>wrist bands on his elbows and wrists, whatever it was,

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 1>his gloves, his helmet. That's how he would he would

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 1>lay it out. And he would walk around the locker

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>room and dollars signed boxer shorts to get his getting

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>ready for a game. And it was kind of like

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 1>where I learned. Also is like every players got their

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>own unique way to get themselves ready. They're all professionals.

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>You just have their own unique way getting so als

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>ready to play and fantastic player, you don't do that

0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>with your clothes. Now, I don't. I don't have the

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 1>physique or a skill set he has. I keep my

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>ikea clevered up there. All right, a couple of wild

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 1>card categories to wrap things up. Who is your all

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>time favorite athlete in any sport? Jeez, that's a great question.

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I was a big Cowboy fan girl up, so I

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>love twenty Doors, said Rodostall back. We didn't have any

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>professional sports teams axcept the Suns, so at the time

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>that the Suns is a big Walter Davis fan. And

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>then I was a Dodgers fan, so Dusty Baker was

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>my favorite player growing up in the seventies. Those are

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>really the guys I idolized at the time growing up

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>as a kid. Do you have any hidden talents or

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>off field interests that might surprise us? My wife would

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely say I have no hidden talents whatsoever. I'm worthless

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>at home. I can't do anything, so I would say

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>probably not, except I do like to golf a little

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>bit on my time off in the summer. But I'm horrible,

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>but I love it. It's fun to get outside and

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful setting on the golf course and drink and

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>eat while you play. It's always fun to do that.

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.520
<v Speaker 1>If you're horrible, but you love it, we'll play. We'd

0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>be a good match. Last thing, and this is kind

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of deep. If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman, politician,

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>religious figure, whatever it might, who would that person date.

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>That's a great question, and I've always I have pondered

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that if I could go back in time, and I'd

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>always want to go back in time to meet some

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of the legendary athletes and coaches. And then so with

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>my position right now, I had to say Vince Lombardi

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and just pick his brain on his approach to the

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>game and practice and just experience and meet a guy

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like him. But he's done so much to the sport

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:31.320
<v Speaker 1>in person. But really, anybody, I'm a real big sports historian.

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I love that stuff. So I'd love to meet any

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of those guys. I mean, Babe Ruth, who would not

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>want to go back in time and just just to

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to be around Babe Ruth? I mean, he

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>was heard he's pretty fun too to be around. But

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Vince Lombarrie is the first guy that comes to mind.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Just would love to pick his brain on everything he'd done.

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And I can't. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Paul Brown, all right, so he would. He's incredible how

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>much he's invented for this game, and since since I

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>come to the Bengals and learn a little bit more

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>about him. Already knew some of the stuff that he's

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>done and created and invented, but he'd be another guy

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>to be really cool. We have a I guess mister

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Brown upstairs has got a lot of his artifacts and

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>memorabilia upstairs, and my first time I was here, I

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>got to go check out some of that stuff. I

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>know some of those things that I I was writings are

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>up there. I'd love to go up there one of

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>these days in the off season and read some of

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 1>his notes on plays and whatnot. This has been great.

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.440
<v Speaker 1>It's awesome to have you back on the Bengals coaching staff.

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Continued success and thanks for the time. Thank you, verm.

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