1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The you've had your first lesson 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: in learning the Blues. Addition, as the Bengals playoff chances 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: take a hit with a gut wrenching overtime loss to 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine Ers. Coming up, you'll hear 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: radio replays, postgame comments from players and coaches, and analysis 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. 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The current season of Saturday 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Night Live isn't doing much for me, but the one 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: cast member who consistently makes me laugh is Ady Bryant. 19 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: Whether it's her physical comedy, intentionally weird pronunciations, or one 20 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent commitment to the musical. Shorts like the one 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: about regifting a Christmas candle, Aidy Bryant elevates every sketch 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: she's in. So here's to my SNL MVP Ady Bryant, 23 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: with a thumbs up to Kate McKinnon and Keenan Thompson too. 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Now let's get to Sunday's game. After the two teams 25 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: traded punts on their opening series, the Bengals force the 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers to punt again. The second time they 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: got the ball, Wishnavsky lets it rip, Phillips, moving forwards, 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: struggles to catch it, leases the ball. He muffed it. 29 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: There's a wrestling match for the ball and the forty 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: nine Ers recover at this Cincinnati twenty three yea. So 31 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers took over on the cusp of 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: the red zone, and while the Bengals defense did not 33 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: give up a first down, Robbie Gold kicked a short 34 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: field goal to give Sam Fran a three nothing lead. 35 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Phillips was briefly injured when he muffed the punt, and 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Stanley Morgan took overs. The Bengals kick returner. He promptly 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: muffed the ensuing kickoff before recovering and getting tackled at 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: the fourteen. Cincinnati overcame that and drove to the San 39 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Francisco nineteen before settling for a field goal in the 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: red zone that tied the game at three at the 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: end of the first quarter. The Bengals d only gave 42 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: up two first downs in the first quarter, but Kyle 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Shanahan is too good of a play designer and the 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: forty nine ers have too many good players to shut 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: them down all day. Second down at eight, the Bengals 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven Garoppolo fakes a handoff, no he did give 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: it to Deebo Samuel, spreading to the right, turns the 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: corner down the sideline into the end zone, touchdown. St. Francisco. 49 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is listed as a wide receiver, but he 50 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: frequently lines up at running back, and that twenty seven 51 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: yard run gave the Niners a ten three lead. The 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Bengals cut the margin to four when they drove into 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: the red zone again before settling for a short field 54 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: goal with one forty two left in the half, and 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: it looked like Cincinnati might score again when the defense 56 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: forced to quit three and out one oh seven left 57 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: and a half. The forty Niners half to punt way 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: up into the air. Phillips calls for a fair catch 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: and the balls it's recovered by San Francisco at the 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Cincinnati thirty yard line. Second muff punt of the game 61 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: for Darius Phillips. Phillips did not return another kick or 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: punt for the rest of the game. Here's Mike Kilton 63 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: in my opinions, one of the hardest job is to 64 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: be a punt returner. You know, you got guys screaming 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: down and you just got a number one kissed the 66 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: ball in. You know he didn't do it, but we're 67 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: not losing confidence in him. We know if he gets 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands in space, you know he's 69 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: able to make plays for us. Those were the first 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: two umbles that Darius Phillips has lost this year. The 71 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Bengals defense has been phenomenal this year after turnovers, only 72 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: allowing two touchdowns the first seventeen times they took the 73 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: field after a turnover, and it looked like they were 74 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: going to come through again when they forced an incomplete 75 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: pass on third and seven that would have forced a 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: field goal. Try, but on the play, Von Bell was 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: called for taunting to give the forty nine ers a 78 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: first down. Was it a good call? Here's Zach Taylor. 79 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: I didn't personally see it, but it sounds like it was. 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: It was probably wispen called historically this season with taunting. 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: But I gotta be careful because I haven't seen you yet. 82 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: But something feedback was that that's kind of wispen called. 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: It was the second time this year that Bell has 84 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: been called for taunting, and this time it cost the 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: Bengals four points. Cooppolo catches the shotgun snap, he's back 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: to throw, has time, looks around, floats it down toward 87 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: the two caught pie Kittle extends the ball to the pylon, 88 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: touchdown out. San Francisco. Man talk about mistakes, fumbles, penalties, taunted, penalties, 89 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: all it is a self destruction. It made the halftime 90 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: score seventeen six, San Francisco. Here's Sam Hubbard. You can't 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: beat yourself. I think that really is what comes down 92 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: to it. The good teams they don't beat themselves. They 93 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: will make those mistakes. And we want to be a 94 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: good team. You know, we do a lot of good things. 95 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: There's bright moments, But when it comes down to it, 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: there's situations where we can't make the mistakes we've been 97 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: making the last two weeks to win games. As for 98 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: tight end George Kittle, he destroyed the Bengals all day, 99 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: finishing with thirteen catches for one hundred and fifty one yards. 100 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: We tried everything. He's one of the best tight ends. 101 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: We've known that for a long time. And you know, 102 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: he had similar production last week. I think he almost 103 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: had two hundred yards receiving. And it's it's not like 104 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: he surprises people. When a guy is that explosive and 105 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: that big, that kind of hands, that catch radius, he 106 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: makes a lot of ways, and I promise you, we 107 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: try to like hell to take him away, and he 108 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: just he finds way to make those plays. The deficit 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: got bigger in the third quarter. The Bengals opened the 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: second half with three straight running plays and had to 111 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: put on fourth and one. The forty nine ers answered 112 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: with a field goal to take a twenty to six lead. 113 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: The Bengals responded with a nice drive, marching to the nineteen, 114 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: but a sack knocked him out of the red zone 115 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: and forced them to call on kicker Evan McPherson Harris's snap, 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: Hubert puts it down. The kick has plenty of distance 117 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: and it is wide left. Told it left. The misery 118 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: extended for the Bengals today, as they are having a 119 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: wide variety of failures in every aspect of the game. 120 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: To that point, there had been three muffs in the 121 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: kicking game, a taunting penalty on defense that turned a 122 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: field goal try into a touchdown, and three trips into 123 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: the red zone on offense without scoring a touchdown. It 124 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: seemed highly unlikely that the Bengals would rally from fourteen 125 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: down in the fourth core, but then again, they have 126 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and he was close to perfect for the 127 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: rest of the game. Fourth down in five in the 128 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: red zone, the Bengals line up to go for trailing 129 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: twenty to six at the seventeen of San Francisco. Three 130 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: receivers left, one right. Burrow has the ball. He's back 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: to throw, scrambling left, turns back toward the right, running 132 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: to the right, looking down field, throws into the end zone. 133 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: Oh Baby to catch in the back line around touch 134 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: down Bengals Jamar Chase hauls it in have The Bengals 135 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: are alive with nine twenty to go. It was hard 136 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: to tell on TV just how remarkable that play was. 137 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: Is Burrow threw the ball in the opposite direction of 138 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: where Chase was running in the back of the end zone. 139 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: When I threw it, he was still running left, and 140 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: he did a great job of you know, we were 141 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: just on the same page. I knew exactly when he 142 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: was seeing, and he knew exactly what I was seeing, 143 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: and I he was running left. It through it right, 144 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and he put his food in the ground and went 145 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and got it. I don't really know why he did that, 146 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: but he was just saying, you know, he was throwing 147 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: the ball away from the defender because the defender got 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: a ten of SIPs which way. I was like, man, 149 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: that's really kind of smartn't you know what I'm saying, 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: food me off the So that was actually a good 151 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: play by him. That made a twenty to thirteen, and 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals defense got two straight stops to give Burrow 153 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: a chance. The first time they got him the ball, 154 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals had to punt, but the second time, Cincinnati 155 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: started at its own thirteen with two forty to go 156 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: and drove down the field to tie the game one 157 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,239 Speaker 1: twenty five on the clock, a two by two formation, 158 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Burrow back to throw, looking firing deep for Chase in 159 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: the end zone. Touchdown down Joe Burrow and the Bengals 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: as he delivers to Numero uno, Jamar Chase, one nineteen 161 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: on the clock as he beat Thomas and now the 162 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: Bengals will line up for the extra point with a 163 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: chance to tie it with one nineteen to go. You 164 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: couldn't put that ball on a better spot. I mean, 165 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: Chase ran a great route and Joe Burrow threw the 166 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: ball over the outside shoulder. The only guy that could 167 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: make a plan that football was Jamar Chase. Unbelievable catch, 168 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: better throw. Here's Burrow and the Bengals come back. And 169 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: we've kind of been a second half team the whole season. 170 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: We figure out what we're seeing and then we go 171 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: and attack it. You know, it's a's four quarter game. 172 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have ups and downs throughout the game, whether 173 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: it's in the first half of the second half, and 174 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: you just got to finish strong and try to find wins. 175 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: The only negative about the touchdown was that it left 176 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: enough time on the clock for the forty nine ers 177 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: to answer and a nineteen yard pass from Garoppolo to 178 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: Kittle on third and ten gave seventeen year veteran Robbie 179 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: Gould a chance to end it. On the final play, 180 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: forty seven yards away from the left hash to win 181 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: it for San Francisco. The kick is on its way. 182 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: It's a line drive kick. It is oh good, he 183 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: missed it. Edward I handed over time tide at twenty. 184 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: The Bengals won the toss and got the ball, meaning 185 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: they could win the game by scoring a touchdown. Burrow 186 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: hit Te Higgins for twenty six yards. After a run 187 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: by Joe Mixon got stopped for no gain, Burrow hit 188 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: c j Uzamba for a gain of twenty three. It 189 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: was first and ten at the San Francisco twenty six. 190 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter and overtime, Burrow went eleven for 191 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: fifteen for two hundred ten yards, two touchdowns and no picks, 192 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: for a passer rating of one fifty four point eight. 193 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: But rather than letting Burrow go for the juggular, the 194 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Bengals handed it to Mixon for a gain of four, 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: then handed it to Joe again for a gain of three. 196 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: On third and three, Burrow dropped back to throw and 197 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: got sacked. Joe was asked about the play calling on 198 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: the final drive. Whatever play calls is called, we're gonna 199 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: execute to the best of our ability. We had a 200 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: good drive there, we just weren't able to close it out. 201 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Joe wasn't about to publicly second get the coaches, but 202 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor second guest himself when he was asked the 203 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: following question by my former colleague at Fox nineteen, Joe Daneman, 204 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: is there ever a thought as a play caller when 205 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback's hot to stick with a hot hand and 206 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: ride him. Yeah, yep, I agree with you. You know, 207 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's that. That's one that'll keep you up 208 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: at night. You know, we got a quarterback that can 209 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: win us a lot of games, and you know there's 210 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: maybe one more pass instead of a run there. Sure, 211 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: if we hit that run, I feel great about it. 212 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: But we didn't, and so then you go back to hindsight, 213 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: and I'm sure I'll feel a lot of that tonight. 214 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: Evan McPherson kicked a forty one yard field goal to 215 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: give the Bengals their first lead all day, twenty three 216 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: to twenty, But that meant the forty nine ers would 217 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: get a chance to either tie it or win it. 218 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: From the twelve yard line. Garoppolo fakes a handoff short 219 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: throw caught by a UK ten five dives for the pieline. 220 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: He goes out of bounds first. Wow, he's out of 221 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: bounds at the two where it will be first in goal. 222 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: After a few it is a touchdown. Came over. Wow. 223 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I'll bitterly disappointing defeat for the Cincinnati Bengals. They rally 224 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: from fourteen down in the fourth quarter, take the lead 225 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: in overtime, and cannot stop to San Francisco forty nine 226 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: ers from driving seventy five yards for a game winning touchdown. 227 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: The final score San Francisco twenty six, Cincinnati twenty three. 228 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Not as painful as Montana to Taylor, but still painful. 229 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: Here are Sam Hubbard and Mike Hilton drive at the end. 230 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: You know you got to stop them there, and uh 231 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: we didn't. So I'm proud of you know, I love 232 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: the guys on my team that we went out there 233 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: in battle. Nobody I don't even know what we were 234 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: down at one point, but we just kept sticking together, 235 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: getting stops, climbing back into it. Nobody you know, pointing fingers, 236 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, it's tough. It's tough, tough to win 237 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: in this league. These last two week we kind of 238 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: dug ourselves in some depoles that we weren't able to 239 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: get out of. And you know, it's too lossy that 240 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: we feel like we played to our standard. We should 241 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: win those games. And we know as a team we 242 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: got to start faster and we gotta finish finished like 243 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: we've been finishing, but that first half, we just gotta 244 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: come out with more urgency and in more fight. Had 245 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals won, they would have moved into a tie 246 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: for first in the AFC North with the Ravens, who 247 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: not only lost in Cleveland on Sunday, but saw Lamar 248 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: Jackson taking off the field on a cart with an 249 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: ankle injury. Baltimore has dropped too straight and the Bengals 250 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: couldn't take advantage of the opportunity. Here's Burrow and when 251 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: the one of the teams that you're fighting for the 252 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: division with loses, you you got to take advantage of that, 253 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: and we haven't been able to the last two weeks. 254 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: So you know, like you said, missed opportunities. The Bengals 255 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: would no longer be a wild Card team. If the 256 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: season ended today, they fall into ninth on the AFC 257 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: Totem Pole and seven teams get in. Cincinnati's final four 258 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: games are at Denver, home against Baltimore, home against Kansas City, 259 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: and on the road in Cleveland. All four teams have 260 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: winning records. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, 261 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: the free to play fantasy football game. Ultimate Bengals will 262 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: be awarding a weekly winner during the course of the season, 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: with tickets, autograph merchandise, and money can't buy experiences all 264 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: up for grabs. Find Ultimate Bengals in the App Store 265 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: and Google Play. Now time for postgame analysis with my 266 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: broadcast partner Dave lapham Lap. This is a second guesser's 267 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: field day, as the Bengals drove in overtime down to 268 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: the twenty six yard line. They had at first in 269 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: ten and called two straight running plays that didn't work 270 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: very well. Eventually, Joe Burrow got sacked and the Bengals 271 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: kicked a field goal that did not turn out to 272 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: be the game winning points. Zach Taylor is pretty candid 273 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: When asked about it after the game, he said, yeah, 274 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you. I'm probably gonna have 275 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: a hard time getting to sleep tonight. Yeah, I think 276 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: he is. You know that that ended up getting a 277 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: little bit curious, particularly the way that they were They 278 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: were moving the ball through the air in big chunks. 279 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Not just that driving overtime, but the drives in the 280 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I mean, Joe Burrow was unbelievable in the 281 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. In fact, it was unbelievable for the game. 282 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: But I think the game came down to two things. Turnovers. 283 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: The Bengals went minus two with the kicking game funnels 284 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: of all things. Man, that's a killer. In red zone. 285 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean, these are when the number one and number 286 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: three offenses in the NFL and touchdown red zone touchdown 287 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: percentage efficiency, and the forty nine ers went two for 288 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: four scored two touchdownes. The Bengals go one for five 289 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: in the red zone, only twenty percent conversion as opposed 290 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: to the fifty percent in a game that you lose 291 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: in overtime. In my mind, that's a massive difference right there. 292 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: George Kills awesome, He's had as many as fifteen catches 293 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: in a game. He's mad that had more than two 294 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: hundred yards in a game. He had more than one 295 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty. Last week against Seattle, he had thirteen 296 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: catches for one fifty one today. Why can't a team 297 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: stop George Kittle? It's remarkable, you know, and and you 298 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: look at it. I mean, they've got good recite wide receivers, 299 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: but it's not like they have you know, Jerry Rice 300 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and John Taylor out there. You know, Kittle, he just 301 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: he seems to He's so savvy, he's so smart, he's 302 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: so strong, he's so physical. He's just just as as 303 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: good a football player as as I've seen, honestly. I mean, 304 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't care what the position this guy approaches. Every 305 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: single down that it's the last play to win a 306 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Every single snap this guy takes, He's one 307 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: of those one of those guys that you just you 308 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: feed off his energy and enthusiasm. I mean, he is 309 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,119 Speaker 1: so serious. He takes the game of football so seriously 310 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: that it's contagious. It's it's unbelievable to watch the guy perform. 311 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: This is a really costly, painful loss, a chance to 312 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: move into a tie with Baltimore. We don't know what's 313 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: going to happen with Lamar Jackson, who has carted out today, 314 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: you're down by fourteen and the fourth quarter rally to 315 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: tie it, to take the leading overtime. You were in 316 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: the locker room. How devastated was that room? It was? 317 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: It was quiet, quiet in there, and guys were you know, 318 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: the one of the many smiles, that's for darn't sure. 319 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: And and they just were very reflective, stunned. In a 320 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of cases. Um, you know, it's like in those situations. 321 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: I've been in those situations, and it's almost like a 322 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: bomb goes off, you know, and you just don't know 323 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: exactly what happened, why it happened, how it happened, or 324 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: anything like anything else. And uh, and I don't want 325 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: to be that dramatic, particularly with what goes on in 326 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: today's world, but I mean, it's it's it's just it's 327 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: almost uh, it's it's almost beyond comprehension that that something 328 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: like that unfolded the way it did, you know, particularly 329 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: after the amount to come back, you know, and you 330 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: get back in two weeks in a row. Now you know, 331 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: they're down twenty four nothing to score twenty two to 332 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: make it again, and then never take a lead though 333 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: and this one though, they come back from down two 334 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: scores in the fourth quarter, tie it, take the lead 335 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: in overtime, and then don't finish it so they're closer. 336 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: But still, man, they just have to they have to 337 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: quit the self destruction. I mean, these teams are good 338 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: enough teams. We say it every week. These teams were 339 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: all fighting for the playoffs. They're good enough to beat you. 340 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: If you help them, you're done. You're cooked. Forget it, 341 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: it's over. You can't help football teams beat you by stupid, 342 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: silly mistakes, whether it's dumb penalties, turnovers, whatever the case 343 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: may be. You just they're gonna have to be eliminated. 344 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: And think about it this way too. In the last 345 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: two weeks, they've had four turnovers that weren't forced. Two 346 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: muffed punts today that led to ten points, that Jamarches 347 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: juggle that are raised to seventy one yard touchdown and 348 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: became an interception last week, and Joe Mixon's fumble where 349 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't really forced. He was just kind of doing 350 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: a jump cut and lost control of the ball. I mean, 351 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: it's bad enough to commit turnovers, it is ten times 352 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: worse when the other team doesn't even force it. Absolutely. 353 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's just like saying, here you go, I 354 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: don't want this football game, you know, I really I 355 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: can compete with you, but I'm still gonna let you 356 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: win it. Here you go, I'll just give it to you. 357 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: The only one that came close for them from a 358 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: turnover standpoint was Jimmy Garoppolo dropping and think took up 359 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: for tour Us bounce. But other than that, I mean, 360 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: they played like a playoff team in terms of taking 361 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: care of the football. The Bengals didn't, you know, And 362 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you Darren Simmons is fit to be tied. 363 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably pulling hair out by the roots 364 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: as we speak. I mean, because I've heard him so 365 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: many times say to return, guys, the primary thing, the 366 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: biggest thing I need out of you is an ability 367 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: to track the football and catch the damn thing. Heard 368 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: him today In a game the Bengals wind up losing 369 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: by three points. They handed San Francisco four points? Was 370 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: it four? Final margin? Four? No? Three? Because there's no 371 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: extra yeah, said twenty six, twenty three. But they gave 372 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco four points. When vone Bell gets called for 373 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: taranting absolutely and that one, you know, I understand the intent, 374 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: but the pendulum has swung too far, you know. And 375 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: it's when you're when you're in a hotly contested game 376 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: and the emotions are high. There's nothing wrong with a 377 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: little celebration of a play that you made. I mean, 378 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: it's it's not like you're in a guy's face and 379 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: mocking him, and it's just you know. The thing is, though, 380 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: you have to realize that if you're going to do this, 381 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: separate yourself from somebody and do a celebration. Don't walk 382 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: up to it. When he walked up to an opponent 383 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: and did it, he's done, he's done. He maybe had 384 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: something to say too. You can't do it use somebody 385 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: else as a prop in your celebration. You can't include 386 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: anybody else. If you want to just you know, let it, 387 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: let energy and you know, emotion boil. Do it alone, 388 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Go find a quiet spot to do it. Man, those 389 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: things are killer. That was so costly unbelievable. All right, 390 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: So we have been going through the negative and there's 391 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: lots of it. Let's talk about the biggest positive. Joe 392 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: Burrows unbelievable. He estimated his velocity at eighty to eighty 393 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: five percent because of the injured finger. Today, three hundred 394 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: forty eight passing yards, two touchdowns, one hundred and sixty 395 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: one yards in the fourth quarter alone when they had 396 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: to have it. The dude stepped up and delivered time 397 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: and time again. The future is so bright with this 398 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: guy at quarterback. And he sprayed the ball around. You know, 399 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: that's the thing too. He goes five times to Higgins 400 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: for one hundred and fourteen yards. Every one of te 401 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: higgins catches were nineteen yards or more, you know, all 402 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: of more. That's two weeks in a row that he's 403 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: caught every ball he's caught his fifteen yards and more, 404 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: and today it's nineteen yards a more every single catch. 405 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: He averaged well over twenty yards a catch. Five catches 406 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: by Higgins, five catches by Chase, four catches by Zama, 407 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: four catches by Tyler Boyd, four catches by p Ryan. 408 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's unbelievable distribution of the football. That's 409 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: that's spraying around to all quadrants and being patient with 410 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: what they're doing. And he's unbelievable. He is such a 411 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: competitive guy. And with that said, uber competitive, but always 412 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: unbelievably composed. He has the perfect balance. I mean it's 413 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: like that's juggling act to be that competitive. But never lou, 414 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: you know, never go over the top where you're hurting 415 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: yourself because your emotions. He has the perfect recipe, the 416 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: perfect formula for success. It's amazing to watch the guy 417 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: nothing flusters, the guy saying stone face during the entire 418 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: football game, pregame, post game, in the press room, doing 419 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: press conferences. He is amazing. Nor the word to describe it. 420 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: As we chat post game. We don't know the status 421 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: of Trey Hendrickson. It obviously was scary when they brought 422 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: out a cart just before halftime and then he got 423 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: up and walked to the sideline and walked to the 424 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: locker room. So that was encouraging, but I'd be surprised 425 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: if he's able to come back next week. Yeah. I mean, 426 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: back injuries are tricky. I mean, I don't know where 427 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: it is. You'd assume it's lower back, but you just 428 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: don't know. Um you know, I have I've had an 429 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: issue in my back that was between my shoulder blades 430 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: one time, and that was about as problematic as anything 431 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: because you know everything you're doing with your upper body 432 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: and your shoulders and arms you know, and and then 433 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: back injuries in general. I mean, when you're messing with 434 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: your spine and your back and the muscles that's around 435 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: it and everything. Man, that's that's no joke, and that's 436 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: that's nothing to mess with. So yeah, to think that 437 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: he would be able to come back if it unless 438 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: it was just totally musculature and all it did was 439 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: spasm and tightened up to the point where he couldn't 440 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: move and it relieved itself for some reason. I mean, 441 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: if it was something like that, But if it's if 442 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: it's anything else with other soft tissue or other things 443 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: around there, and you certainly have to be careful with 444 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: back problems, that's for sure. So four games to go. 445 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: The Broncos won by four touchdowns today, the Chiefs kick tail. 446 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: The other games are within the division. They're going to 447 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: have to win those games. The Bengals have gone from 448 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: being in a pretty good shape to now a difficult 449 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: uphill climb to qualify for the postseason. There's no question. 450 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be so many games you look 451 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: back on and you say, ah, if and but it's 452 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: Christmas time. If from Butler Candy and that has to 453 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: be Christmas every day. But all the teams can say that, 454 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, and the thing, the thing you gotta be 455 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: careful about Cleveland. Cleveland's got a winning record now and 456 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: they're the only ones that have a tiebreaker against the Bengals. 457 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: They beat the Bengals and thrash them here here Bengals 458 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: have to go up in the lake and the last 459 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: game of the season and if that's a game you 460 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: gotta win to qualify the playoffs, or win the division 461 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: to qualify the playoffs, or where it may be, that 462 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: that's not going to be an easy, easy dynamic whatsoever. 463 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, they're they've they've they've started to paint 464 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: themselves in a corner. They're giving themselves no margin for 465 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: error because of error that they've had in trying to 466 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: get to that final four games of the season. They're 467 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: finally there and it's the final quarter of such. But 468 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: it's not going to be easy on an every day, 469 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: every week basis. It is going to be like you're 470 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: playing a playoff game. And that's that's how you have 471 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: to approach it. That's the intensity level of it. That's 472 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: we saw last week, that's what we saw this week, 473 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: and it's going to be the same the last four 474 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: games remaining no different or on Sunday's win. Joined Lap 475 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: and Lance McAllister for Bengals Line Monday Night from six 476 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: to nine on seven hundred WLW. Now time for this 477 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: week's fun Facts segment, where you are about to get 478 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: to know a Bengals coach who turned out to be 479 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: an exceptional storyteller. Time for some fun facts with offensive 480 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: line coach Frank Pollock. Born in Camp Springs, Maryland, near Washington, DC, 481 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: before attending high school in Phoenix, Arizona. Where did you 482 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: spend the bulk of your childhood and what did you 483 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: like to do as a kid. Grew up in Phoenix. 484 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: I moved out there when I was two. My parents 485 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: were in the Navy, and when they met and got 486 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: married and had me and we moved out to Phoenix. 487 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: So I grew up Phoenix seventies and eighties. And I 488 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: love sports, love football right from the get go, and 489 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: just did all the sports growing up as a kid, 490 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: like probably every other kid, and just got a blast. 491 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: I always assume, and maybe it's stereotypical that the child 492 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: of military parents has a very disciplined life as a kid. 493 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: Was that the case for you. Yeah, I wouldn't say 494 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: they were military parents because they got out like right 495 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: after I was born, within two years, because then my 496 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: younger sister was born in the same DC area and 497 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: then we left, So I know, we really remember my 498 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: dad ever being in the military. I was like two, 499 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: so but yeah, I mean I was disciplined. My dad 500 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: grew up in Cleveland and then went to Benedict in 501 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: high school and so kind of a you know, midwestern 502 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: upbringing out there in the West Coast. You know, discipline 503 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: was big in our house, and you know, so he 504 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: kept me in line if every got a little squirrelly. 505 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts with Frank Pollock. You're a big man. 506 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: You're a former NFL offensive lineman. Were you always the 507 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: big kid in the neighborhood. No, Actually, I was a 508 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: late bloomer. I was decent sized young with them. By 509 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: the time I got the high school, everyone was taller, 510 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,719 Speaker 1: bigger than me. It's funny to see some of my 511 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: high school JV team pictures and some of my good 512 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: buddies that they were all taller and bigger than me, 513 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: and now I tower over them. So I was a 514 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: late bloomer and grew a ton right before my senior 515 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: year and then obviously throughout college. When it came time 516 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: for college, you became a lumberjack at Northern Arizona University 517 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: y NAU. It was the only scholarship offer I had 518 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: outside of a couple of local junior colleges, so I 519 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: took it and ran with it. Northern Arizona has a 520 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: remarkable record of sending coaches to the NFL. Who did 521 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: you overlap with as a player and then as a 522 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: young assistant coach? Yeah, I was very fortunate to be 523 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: coached by some incredible coaches early on in my in 524 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: in college, my UH our my office, A line coach 525 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: my my sophomore junior years was Bill Callahan and then 526 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: before him, actually for one year really my true sophomore year, 527 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: I had a late redshirt hardship there, but was Andy 528 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: Reid was my line coach before coach Callahan came in, 529 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: and then UH the OC for most of those years 530 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: four out of the five was Brad childress Um. Marty 531 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: morning Wig was a young GA running back coach on 532 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: that staff. Steve Hagen, who coached a long time in 533 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: the league tight ends and receivers, was our was our 534 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: receiver's coach. Um, I was very fortunate. And then uh, 535 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: they had a few good coaches kind of came in 536 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: after me when I had left on a different staff. 537 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: And actually Brad Craigthorpe's dad was on that staff. Uh, 538 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: the younger Zampeeze kens Ampez was on that staff. I'm 539 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: drawing a blank to head coach Carl Durell at Colorado 540 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: was on that staff. All these young guys that have 541 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: gone and have great career so um, and he's had 542 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: a lot. Mike Shanahan coach there early in his career. Um, 543 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm drawing a blank. Now I'm the old New England 544 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: old line coach's Karnekia's he coached there early in his career. 545 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: So it's kind of one of those unique, weird places. 546 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: I always call it the cradle to coaches on the 547 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: West coast. I know Miami, Ohios got that title on 548 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: the east of the Mississippi. I'm gonna I'm gonna claim 549 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: it on the west Mississippi. RIGHTFULLYSA, we're visiting with Frank Pollock. 550 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned Bill Callaghan, who is the brother the dad 551 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: I should say of offensive coordinator Brian Callahan. He was 552 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's head coach at Nebraska. He is a big 553 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: reason why you became a coach. Correct, Yeah, he's he's 554 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: He's been huge impact on my life from a player 555 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: in coaching, I'm a member writing him a letter when 556 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: I was playing that I wanted to come in ga 557 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: for him at Wisconsin and then uh, and he wrote 558 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: me back, nice letter saying that'd love to have you 559 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: ga for me. In fact, I saved that letter, and 560 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: years later when I ended up coaching with him for 561 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: him in Dallas as his assistant, I showed him that letter. 562 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: He was flabbergast that I still kept it. So he's 563 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: been huge for me. Learned a ton and still learning 564 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: a ton from him. He's been been very fortunate in 565 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: that regards. You learned a degree in advertising if you 566 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't get into coaching, Is that what you would have done? No, 567 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: it was the classic. I didn't want to I didn't 568 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: want to go down to the pe route. I wanted 569 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: something a little bit different, So I just decided advertising 570 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of math in it. Yeah, I'll 571 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: do that, But yeah, I kind of always knew I 572 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: wanted to coach. I tried to stay away from it 573 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: later in my life and then got back into it. 574 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: That's where my badgion is. After being named an All 575 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: American in Northern Arizona, you were a sixth round draft 576 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: pick by the forty nine ers in nineteen ninety. Describe 577 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: your draft experience. It was funny you ask. It was 578 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: a little different than how they do things now. But 579 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: it was kind of a drawn out process over three days, 580 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: and in fact, it went like Saturday, Sunday, and Monday 581 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: was kind of like the last day. So my agent 582 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: at the time in Phoenix had a you know, a 583 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: big to do party and whatnot during the first day 584 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: of the draft, and he had a bunch of, you know, 585 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: high first round draft guys. I knew I clearly was 586 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: not going to be taking that day, but just enjoyed 587 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: the festivities. But I was under the impression that maybe 588 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: the next day I might go, And then I didn't 589 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: get any information and so I had to get up 590 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: early on Monday morning go to his office. He was 591 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: a little kid in Phoenix, and I was just a wreck. 592 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting into the later rounds, the sixth 593 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: rounds gone, the seventh rounds gone. It's about we had 594 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: twelve rounds. We're in like the ninth and tenth round. 595 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: My agents calling around teams. He calls the Washington Redskins 596 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: and hits up Charlie Castle. I guess he showed interest 597 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: in me pre draft draft and he goes, what do 598 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: you mean the Niners took him way back in the 599 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: sixth round and he goes, what, they haven't even called him? 600 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: And he tells me that. I go, I'm not believing 601 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: I get a phone call. So he calls the Niners 602 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, yeah, we're gonna call him. We 603 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: were just we just worked out a draft a trade 604 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: and we haven't a chance to call him yet. So 605 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: that's songs up in a nutshell. It's like, you know, 606 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: there's some six round old line guy. We'll get back. 607 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: We'll get to them whenever we can get to him. 608 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: So that was kind of my draft experience, but nonetheless 609 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: I got my foot in the door. That might be 610 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: the greatest example of how the draft has changed that 611 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: I have ever heard. You were an NFL player for 612 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: nine years, seven in San Franz, two in Denver. You 613 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl ring with the ninety four San 614 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers when they beat the Chargers. What 615 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: do you cherish the most about your experience as an 616 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: NFL player? The great teammates, the camaraderie with all my teammates. 617 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: I told the guys all the time, that's what you're 618 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna miss. Number one. The great experiences and that we had. 619 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: We wanted a lot of football games. Loved my experiences 620 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: with all the different coaches that I came through the 621 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 1: nine years that I was there and in Denver, and 622 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: then just just those great experiences and being a part 623 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: of being able to, you know, play pro football is 624 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: a dream come true. And being able to be on 625 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: so to a great winning organization. Again, a championship there 626 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: with the Niners was tremendous. Something always were relish. We're 627 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: doing fun facts with Frank Pollock. The list of Hall 628 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: of Fame players that were your teammates is remarkable. I'm 629 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: going to name a few, and I would like you 630 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: to just share a memory or a description, whatever comes 631 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: to mind. Joe Montana prankster. First thing that comes to 632 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: my training camp. He'd take guys bikes and throw them 633 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: up into the trees. We had at Rockland Community Seri 634 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Community College in rock And, California, because he didn't have 635 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: to stay in late meetings. He knew the Skiss system 636 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: so kind of an old veteran. They let him out 637 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: of the meetings early and you'd find it was on 638 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: the campus as like he'd ride bikes to the meetings 639 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: back to the dorms and he would put guys bikes 640 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: in the trees. Great guy. Loved to go out with 641 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: the full line especially and take him out, treat him 642 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: out for some drinks and dinners and it was a 643 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Great guy. Did he prank you, No, 644 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: he never pranked me, but he did save me from 645 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: getting just abused as a rookie from Charles Haley. But 646 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: he was guy, was constantly like to pick on rookies. 647 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: One day in the locker room, we would sign these 648 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: autograph footballs in front of the equipment room every day. 649 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: It was part of our deal. And then Charles Haley 650 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: sees me over there, so he's just you know, taking 651 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: his ribbings, getting his opportunities at me as a rookie. 652 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: And Joe it's lockers right there, and he said, hey, hey, Charles, 653 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: leave him alone. And then I was like, oh, this 654 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: is a great guy. And then so Charles never mess 655 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: with me again because Joe told him not to not 656 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: to mess with me. It's like, okay, I'll take it. 657 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: I have new found respect for Joe Montana John Elway 658 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: John Ell was another guy loved hanging out with the 659 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: old line Um good time guy loves loves to hang 660 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: out with the fellas. He was rehabbing his shoulder had 661 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: an injury, and then I was on an ir with 662 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: a back surgery that year. So at some point doing 663 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: rehab together, like they have you off to the side, 664 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: he was gonna start throwing some balls. So they asked 665 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: if I would just go stand over there and he's 666 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna throw these deep out routs to him. I just 667 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: had to stand there. Oh my god. I mean he 668 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: must have been like thirty forty yards away, and how 669 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: hard he through. My hands were hurting in red and 670 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: hurt afterwards. I mean, I was just trying to protect 671 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: my face from not getting just I mean, it is 672 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: ridiculous how hard that guy throws. That was like, like, wow, 673 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: it's impressible. They talk about the Lway cross, the point 674 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: on the end of the football where you've got the 675 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: scenes that come together, and how he used to leave 676 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: an indentation of that cross on guy's chest and stuff 677 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: that's legit because he zipped the ball in there. Man, 678 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: it was crazy. Jerry Rice, unbelievable work ethic. I shared 679 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: stuff like this with my guys all the time. This 680 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: guy was so talented, but you were never ever going 681 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: to outwork him. He was just my niacle over it. 682 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: Just relentless prepractice, post practice. It was it got. He's 683 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: just an animal on how he would work out in 684 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: his conditioning. His work ethic was unbelievable, unbelievable. Ronnie Lott. 685 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: Ronnie Lot is one of my most favorite individuals. I 686 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: got the utmost respect for that guy for how he 687 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: was on the field and in the locker room. But 688 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: him after a years later before I got on the 689 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: coach and I got to do some business stuff with 690 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: him and got to learn just get to know him 691 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: a little bit better. Such a class to act and 692 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: just a man, a man's man, a gentleman. He does 693 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: a lot for the community with his all star helping 694 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: kids charity. He is genuine, he's he taught me as 695 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: an early player leadership from the locker room and chemistry 696 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: matters more than anything on a football team. I played 697 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: with him for two years, and when he left to 698 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders. We had a slow start the next year 699 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: and we had a team only players meeting and I'm 700 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: a young guy. I'm as when they're listening, and all 701 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: the old guys our leaderships then got up in every 702 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: one of them to a man reference where Ronnie would 703 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: say this, Ronnie would do that. He wasn't on our 704 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: team anymore. I'm like, when I coach someday, never forget that. 705 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: So it's all about leadership. Got come from the players, 706 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: and team chemistry matters more than anything. Line one culture matters. 707 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders he was. He came in with all the 708 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: hype right primetime. You're like, God, what's this guy gonna 709 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: be like? You know? And then when he came in, 710 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: he was just like one of the guys that all 711 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: that was just his persona off the field to get 712 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: himself endorsements. He was just a regular guy, worked his 713 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: butt off. His work ethic was right up there with 714 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: the rest of the fellas and how we ran things there, 715 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: and his talent and speed were incredible. We had a 716 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: pretty good player. Dexter Carter was our kick returner, first 717 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: round draft pick out of Florida state same year as me. 718 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: Fast and he was good. And then Dion got there, 719 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: Well he's gonna start returning kicks, and then you could 720 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: literally see the difference of speed and I'm like, oh 721 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: my god, that's when I ever realized how fast he was, 722 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: and some of these players in this league was we 723 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: could literally see the difference where Dexter Carter is not slow, 724 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: he's fast, and you're like, holy cow up close and 725 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: seeing that. Um And he would lay out his whole uniform, pregame, ritual, 726 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: his shoes, his socks like it was like one of 727 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: them chalk lines of a dead body. His pants, his 728 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: band dans, his sweet towels, all that laid out, his 729 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: wrist bands on his elbows and wrists, whatever it was, 730 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: his gloves, his helmet. That's how he would he would 731 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: lay it out. And he would walk around the locker 732 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: room and dollars signed boxer shorts to get his getting 733 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: ready for a game. And it was kind of like 734 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: where I learned. Also is like every players got their 735 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: own unique way to get themselves ready. They're all professionals. 736 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: You just have their own unique way getting so als 737 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: ready to play and fantastic player, you don't do that 738 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: with your clothes. Now, I don't. I don't have the 739 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: physique or a skill set he has. I keep my 740 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: ikea clevered up there. All right, a couple of wild 741 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: card categories to wrap things up. Who is your all 742 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: time favorite athlete in any sport? Jeez, that's a great question. 743 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: I was a big Cowboy fan girl up, so I 744 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: love twenty Doors, said Rodostall back. We didn't have any 745 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: professional sports teams axcept the Suns, so at the time 746 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: that the Suns is a big Walter Davis fan. And 747 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: then I was a Dodgers fan, so Dusty Baker was 748 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: my favorite player growing up in the seventies. Those are 749 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: really the guys I idolized at the time growing up 750 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: as a kid. Do you have any hidden talents or 751 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: off field interests that might surprise us? My wife would 752 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: definitely say I have no hidden talents whatsoever. I'm worthless 753 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: at home. I can't do anything, so I would say 754 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: probably not, except I do like to golf a little 755 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: bit on my time off in the summer. But I'm horrible, 756 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: but I love it. It's fun to get outside and 757 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: a beautiful setting on the golf course and drink and 758 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: eat while you play. It's always fun to do that. 759 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: If you're horrible, but you love it, we'll play. We'd 760 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: be a good match. Last thing, and this is kind 761 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: of deep. If you could meet anybody in history, athlete, actor, statesman, politician, 762 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: religious figure, whatever it might, who would that person date. 763 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: That's a great question, and I've always I have pondered 764 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: that if I could go back in time, and I'd 765 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: always want to go back in time to meet some 766 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: of the legendary athletes and coaches. And then so with 767 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: my position right now, I had to say Vince Lombardi 768 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: and just pick his brain on his approach to the 769 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: game and practice and just experience and meet a guy 770 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: like him. But he's done so much to the sport 771 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: in person. But really, anybody, I'm a real big sports historian. 772 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: I love that stuff. So I'd love to meet any 773 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: of those guys. I mean, Babe Ruth, who would not 774 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: want to go back in time and just just to 775 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: be able to be around Babe Ruth? I mean, he 776 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: was heard he's pretty fun too to be around. But 777 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: Vince Lombarrie is the first guy that comes to mind. 778 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: Just would love to pick his brain on everything he'd done. 779 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: And I can't. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention 780 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: Paul Brown, all right, so he would. He's incredible how 781 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: much he's invented for this game, and since since I 782 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: come to the Bengals and learn a little bit more 783 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: about him. Already knew some of the stuff that he's 784 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: done and created and invented, but he'd be another guy 785 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: to be really cool. We have a I guess mister 786 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: Brown upstairs has got a lot of his artifacts and 787 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: memorabilia upstairs, and my first time I was here, I 788 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: got to go check out some of that stuff. I 789 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: know some of those things that I I was writings are 790 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: up there. I'd love to go up there one of 791 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: these days in the off season and read some of 792 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 1: his notes on plays and whatnot. This has been great. 793 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: It's awesome to have you back on the Bengals coaching staff. 794 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: Continued success and thanks for the time. Thank you, verm. 795 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: Which is awesome to be appreciate it. That's going to 796 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: do it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast, 797 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: brought to you by Ultimate Bengals. The free to play 798 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Next Level Fantasy Football game downloaded now from the App 799 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: Store and Google Play. 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