WEBVTT - Voters Like New Ideas? How To Do Creativity? 06.27.25 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.840 Oh you fuck with Arsenal, you name every player, because 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.280 when he posted that, I had tears in my eyes. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:13.640 I'm like zoring. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.079 Every day. This man makes everybody fall in love with 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:18.120 him just a little bit more. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:23.400 Yeah, yeah, it's I I'm suspicious. I know it's the 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.480 The thing that really fucked me up is him walking 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.319 the length of New York and not get not being 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.360 absolutely drenched and yeah. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:30.880 Well okay, I did see a couple of videos where 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.720 clearly he was smart. He wore a white shirt and like, 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.279 if you sweat a lot, it kind of does kind 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.239 of just become this kind of. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:38.880 Translate pastes to your body. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:40.480 It made me respect him more. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:44.440 But there's somebody like my shirt effect and like, whoa, 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.760 he's ripped under there. Then everyone's like, oh my god. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.320 Every everything his messiness like leads to people being like, 0:00:51.360 --> 0:01:00.760 and he's hotter than we thought. Hello the Internet, and 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.920 welcome to season three ninety four, Episode five of Deady's Guy. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.640 The exciting conclusion of season three ninety four, one of 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.360 my favorite seasons of the podcast. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.520 It's actually been the best season, one of the best personally, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.320 I think for us. The amount of kind words that 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:17.600 have been uttered to us. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:23.640 Our guests are like so nice, our listeners even nicer. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:28.080 the listeners too nice. We've gotten some guest bookings on 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.280 the horizon that we won't reveal as of yet, but 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.160 very exciting. And we've got a guest booking today that 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.759 we're very excited about. You. But this is a podcast 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.480 where we take a deep dab into American shared consciousness. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.520 It's Friday, June twenty since twenty since twenty seventh, twenty 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.520 twenty five. I'm coming in on a full William H. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.640 Macy and Fargo. I was a sweat flop, sweat everywhere, 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.400 like just doing my best not to punch the steering wheel, 0:01:55.560 --> 0:02:00.240 just being like fuck because I my internet died right 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.680 as we were about to start recording. Drove into the office, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:05.320 which is only ten minutes, realized I left my keys 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.919 to the office at home, drove back home. So we're 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.040 coming to you like forty minutes later than we were 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.040 supposed to, all on account of me just having that 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:23.240 real good William H. Macy, just everything collapsing around the energy, 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.480 But thank you for your patience, My dear co host, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:28.560 What's happening on June twenty seven? 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:33.519 Oh sorry, I was just so disappointed Jack that you 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.800 just took so long. It was I thought, you know, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.200 my abandonment issues, so I had some stuff going on. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.200 With my family too, is very triggering. I mean, so it's. 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.640 Okay, it's oh look, it's National Sunglasses to Day, National 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.359 onion Day, National ice cream cake Day, National orange blossom Day, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.560 National HIV Testing Day, and National PTSD Awareness Day. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.600 So yeah, great, I love a sunglass. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.680 Do you call it song? Just put my sunglasses a long? 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:02.520 Oh shit, Okay, onions, orange blossoms, great ice. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.680 Yeah, althay. If I had an HIV tester, you know, 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.320 orange blossoms or any of those things, I would partake 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.080 on those as well. That's that's a weird thing that 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:17.280 radio DJs are always doing. They're always wearing sunglasses indoors. 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.040 I mean, that's like the eighties movie version of a 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.840 radio detail always. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:23.880 That's the last time I pitched. 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.960 I think as someone who's worked a radio never seen 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:27.960 somebody wear shades. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:29.440 That was the DJ on. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.040 The artists will come in on some cool ship and 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.520 wear sunglasses, but the DJ is never they're working, and 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.280 they're always wearing sweatpants. 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.200 I'm too sleepy to wear sunglasses in the morning and 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.080 you think it's put you to sleep. Yeah, just put 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.960 me right asleep. Like, what is the bedtime names Jack 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:53.000 O'Brien aka let me Sleep, let me slumber? Why the 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:58.600 hell won't you open up? Are you just stupid? Oh? 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:03.600 I see your stupid. That one courtesy of New Chris 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:08.360 New christ Ventures with Old Christine. Is that something I 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.000 don't know? It's something I wrote this morning. It's uh 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.040 that that was a song from written from the perspective 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.440 of my youngest when I wouldn't let him into our 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.680 room when we were trying to do a sleep training. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.760 Just roasted me for like forty five minutes straight. 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:25.640 Yeah. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.640 Hey, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.279 co host, mister Miles grad. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.799 Yeah, straight off the streets of the San Fernando Valley 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:36.920 is the Lord of Lankersham, the show gun. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:37.599 With no gun. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.039 It's Miles great. Thank you for having me. It's great 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.120 to be also, it's great to have you Miles. Well, 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.560 I just want to say up tob des Moines, zeit gang. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.200 I'm going to be in your city this weekend. I 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:54.279 need recommendations, need to know where where do where do 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.839 the where do the fine people of des Moines. Where 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:57.800 do ZiT gang go? 0:04:58.160 --> 0:04:58.359 You know? 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.440 Where's the food that I need to eat? I want 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.440 to hear from y'all because I love y'all. Trust y'all, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.320 And if you see me in the streetside, what's up? 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.120 But but do it you know politely? 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:06.560 You know what I mean? 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.360 Yeah, yeah, awesome, that'll be fun. I don't know you're 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:10.440 going to des Moines? 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.120 Yeah for a winning it's. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.720 You know, obviously, I'm not going to miss out on 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.560 a chance to go to the great state of Iowa. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.240 Never Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.360 seat by an award winning playwright whose work has been 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.720 developed and performed at the Public Theater in New York, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.400 Interact Theater in Philadelphia, the Royal Court in London. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.360 What the fuck is? What's he doing on this show? 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:35.799 What is he doing on this show? 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.040 Because you like the show? 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:42.560 He's written on shows on TV from NBC's Law and Order, SVU, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.920 BT's American Soul, DMC's critically acclaimed Interview with a Vampire. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.960 What Oh. He also co hosts the podcast The Inner 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.080 Cities Podcast. So all right, all right? That makes me 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:54.560 feel better? 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:55.080 Brings it back? 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.560 Down a podcasts a podcaster. 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.080 Please welcome to the show, Hey Zell, Well. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:07.080 Yeah, thank you for having me. God Williams. But let's 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:13.719 hear it for Zorn Canada, who actually does shit. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.960 Yeah, it won't have it, but we love z all wrong. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:20.760 It was good to feel good. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.000 Doesn't it feel good to feel good? 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.040 It was just all my good feelings were. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.720 I didn't realize that I was reading so many takes 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.080 from people who are like, you know, a lot of 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.560 leftists progressive have been just sort of conditioned into believing 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.360 something like this was basically beyond reach, like a win 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.000 like that, And I think that's why I was so 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:39.480 this whole process, We're like. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:40.280 Is it okay? 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:41.240 Is this for real? 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:42.080 Surely? 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.680 Is this gonna get fucking destroyed? Right, because that's what 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.520 always happens every time this thing happens, and we think, oh, 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.479 we're moving forward, are we tuesday? 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:54.119 That their inner voice is Natasha Leoni? By the ways, Yeah, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:54.880 that's gonna happen. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.000 I'm gonna happen here. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.920 I could not believe it, and I refuse to believe 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.840 it until he started talking, like until he gave his speech, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.560 like I was like, Okay, there this this isn't this 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.480 could happen? I might have to go back. I used 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.840 to live in a story and I left in twenty sixteen, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.480 and I'm like, do I do I need to go back? 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:17.480 Is that what I's happened to? 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:17.800 Do? 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:18.520 I need to feel this? 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:19.080 Oh? 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.080 Man, thank you guys for having me. I love the show, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:21.600 big fan. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.200 Oh thank you so much for coming on. Yeah, insane, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.160 but we're thrilled to have you. That's how did you 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:29.679 like this show? You should talk to a therapist about 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.080 liking this show. No, We're that's very nice to hear, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.560 and we're very happy to have you. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:35.240 Very flattered. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.160 We're going to get to know you a little bit 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.200 better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.720 listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.960 are going to talk about Zorn's success and how the 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.280 New York Times is dealing with it, because that's mainly 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.360 what I'm worried about, Like how are they gonna hang 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:49.960 in there. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.400 With this, How they're gonna keep it together? 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.080 How are they gonna keep it together? We'll talk about that. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.480 We will talk about just what the latest in the 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.080 world of AI. We got a federal judge with an 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.280 AI company and copyright case and all that plenty more. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:07.840 But first, Zell, we do like to ask our guests, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.840 what is something from your search history that's revealing about 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:11.280 who you are? 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.600 Ninja rocks? Do you guys know what ninja rocks are? 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.480 No, so it's like pipe rock theory. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:22.200 Yeah, so rock rock right now? 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:22.400 Yeah? 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.960 Yeah? Correct, right now? I know ninja rock. So I've 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:29.000 seen a lot of videos recently of people actively throwing 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.640 their bodies in front of like ice SUVs to keep 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.040 their neighbors from being like a legally kidnapped, and it's 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.280 very impressive. I love that, but I'm really really scared 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:42.000 because these like chicken shits have no problem adding vehicular 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.920 assaults to like the crimes they're already doing of like 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.880 kidnapping and disappearing people. And then I remembered, or I 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.280 started to remember something from my teenage years which I 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:54.760 definitely never ever experimented with by the train tracks in Fresno, California, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.800 called ninja rocks. And basically it's this thing that I 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.560 need to stress is wildly illegal if you are caught 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.640 having them. Everybody needs to understand that. But if the 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.760 choice is between getting hit by a car and spraying 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.040 auto glass in the face of the Gestapo. If you 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.360 take the ceramic from a spark plug. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.360 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.560 The colloquial term for that is ninja rocks. And I 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.560 was thinking one day, like, what was that thing I 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.839 was really fascinated by as a teenager that would make 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.480 like auto glass explode? And I'm just like, at some point, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:34.080 the fact that we have allowed the federal government to 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.600 allow mass people to just grab folks on the street 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:42.199 compared to maybe just having something in case you happen 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.520 to find into a car, it feels weird because like 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.000 I I, you know, I also have lived in Los 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.920 Angeles this entire time during the hellscape. We've all survived somehow, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.240 some way, guys, and it's been weird to just be 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.200 riding my bike through a perfectly fine neighborhood but also 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.000 have a national conversation about how falling apart, which is 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.480 not true. So, like, I think we all need to 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:07.439 be looking at alternatives for in case a car happens 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.840 to decide our human life has no value, just saying. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.040 Yeah, what are the options? 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.679 I see a lot of people they're also saying you 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.080 should throw glitter on them glitter is. 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.240 Legal because they can't get it off glitter. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:22.880 I've also seen, you know, people being like, how do 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:26.760 you make spike strips that kind of search term pop up. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.240 This is just a podcast where we talk about what 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.080 is trending in the zeitgeist, and we're just talking about 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:31.640 what's trends. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.680 We're just talking about We're just talking about. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.120 We're identifying trends and those trends. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:36.240 Well. 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:36.760 The other thing I. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.400 See too, is like a lot of times you see 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.280 people really like pull their cars around like these uh, 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.280 masked goons whoever the fuck they are, and like try 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.840 and block them in, but then someone comes out with 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.880 like a machine gun and tells them to back up. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.880 I'm like people just be like parking their car and 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:52.680 taking the keys out and just split and being like 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.920 all right, yeah try and this rab four. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.079 But yeah, it's it's it's it's truly wild. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.800 Like just so many moments you see people who are 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.319 like in total disbelief that they are this is like 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.560 the interaction that they're having, but it's yeah, this is 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.880 just the norm now. And now they're using facial recognition, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.960 like the the stuff that you like when you enter 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.080 the country and they take a photo of you, they're you. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.880 They're accessing that data base now to facial like use 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.640 facial recognition to like identify people that are getting in 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.199 the way or like harassing the goons. It's really fucking 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:25.760 dark out there, so have you. 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.480 So I just I am new to Ninja rocks and 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.079 I do just want to like it. We'll link off 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.880 to this reddit demonstration of what they are, because like 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:36.640 what just googling it and like your description of it. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.240 I thought I had a sense of what it was, 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:38.959 but I thought it was. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.320 Like big no, no, no no. 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:41.920 I thought it was like I. 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.840 Was like, oh, a rock, like a ninja star that's 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.680 like a full rock and there's like little points going. Ever, no, 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.679 it's like literally like little shards of a spark that 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.719 come off a spark look and again, illegal to have. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.520 In your pocket in case the scots stop you. I 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:56.440 want to stress yet. 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.280 But when you throw just a tiny little thing at 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.320 the glass, the glass shatter, Yeah. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.000 And I feel like better than getting hit by a car. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:11.839 And it's harder. Like again, you can't really google it. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.320 It's it's not that easy to find other than on 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.120 the reddit you can find YouTube. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.000 I I because I actually could not remember. I thought 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.000 I thought they were called Ninja rocks, and I was like, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.360 I think that's the thing I came up with when 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.439 I was a kid, because I like ninja turtles or something. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.720 And then it turns out no, the was Ninja rocks. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.080 I just love Wikipedia. 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:34.840 There's from the American Ceramics Society and it said video 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.960 Ninja Rocks exploit ceramics dark side. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.520 Amazing, Oh the hidden side of cerami. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.520 Your mother never told you this in pottery class? 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:46.120 Exactly? 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.960 Yeah, Zelle, what's some of the things underrated? Uh? 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:54.280 Ceres Castle, I think you're ad in mine. So I 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:58.360 think Seres is LA's best journalist, like working right now. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.880 She was a guest on my podcast The Inner Cities 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.120 and we did it on YouTube and it's the first 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:04.680 time we did that and it worked out really well. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.880 But like cerse has this ability to find local LA 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.640 stories that have impact nationally, and I think she's prominently 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.880 known for exposing sheriff games back in twenty twenty one 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.040 with her piece on La Taco. She has now moved 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.840 to a new group called Capital in Maine, and she 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.760 has been following the story of Aby Hernandez Aby Hernandez 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.960 is a student athlete who has been targeted by their 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:34.160 own school superintendent for being trans and she has been 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.920 performing very, very well, but she's also being beaten by 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:42.360 other young women who've identified as women since birth, so 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.640 just proving that there's really no case here. And she's 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.640 having adults who have no children in the school whatsoever, 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.160 come to her meets and harass her. And she was 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:57.240 also targeted by President Trump and a true social statement, 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:01.320 which I think again, Soerice is like, has been on 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:05.400 top of stories that have such deep resonance and that 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.840 you may not even be realizing is happening in your community. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.240 And I just love her death. So check out series, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.920 follow her on everything, Follow any journalists she suggests to follow, 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.240 because I gotta be honest with you. I you know, 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.640 also doing a podcast where we talk about the news. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.320 I basically stop looking at American journalism. When it comes 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.320 to stories about American I go to the Guardian, I 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.640 go to like Lemon because speak a little French. But 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.480 when it comes to yeah, like, when it comes to stories, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.600 I'm looking directly at the intercept. I'm looking like occasionally wired, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.960 Wired's still good, but like it's hard. So you got 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:40.520 to support these Yeah, yeah is the best. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:45.040 Yeah, just like hyper local, like deep reporting on stories. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.680 And so fucking just so devoted to truth and speaking 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.640 truth to power and at any I mean like just 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.200 thinking of the like the harassment she was getting after 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.680 the LASD Gangs thing and just does not stop her. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.320 I don't know if she ever said this publicly. She 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.240 had to hire a bodyguard during that year. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:07.360 Yeah, we heard about that yet. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.240 Yeah, Like it's crazy. He's the best, He's amazing, totally. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.320 What is something you think's over it? 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.240 Unions that don't support other unions and this one might 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.160 get me in trouble. So this spring, the Writers Guild 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.920 of America, which I've been part of since twenty fourteen, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.440 their staff voted to unionize, and I am very thrilled 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.760 for them. I was a Writer's Guild captain during the 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.880 strike in twenty twenty three the entire time. We could 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:36.800 not have won that without the staff. I don't know 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.400 if people realized it. It wasn't just writers out there. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.480 The administrators of the staff, the lawyers of the staff, 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.440 the accounts of the staff. They were all there setting 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.000 up our pickets and managing them for us and occasionally 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.720 like dealing with emergency response and instances, so they are amazing. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.800 They were the backbone of the strike. When the staff 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.720 decided to organize, they were met with what I would 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.920 consider to be a little more resistance than I would 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.800 hope from another union, and it was really disappointing. The 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.880 most upsetting thing of this is that the the WGA 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:11.600 fired a labor labor organizer named Fatima Mareta, and Fatima 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.600 was an organizer for La Hotels before she came to 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.880 us to help out, and she really did this groundwork 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.680 to make it more than just like TV writers demanding 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.240 more money. We were picketing and marching with hotel workers 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.040 in this town, and we showed up at their rallies. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.440 It was really really amazing, and I felt I felt 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.040 really for the first time, particularly being like a working 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.560 class kid who whose mom had a union job, and 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.080 that's the only reason I was able to go to 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:41.240 college and become a writer in from Fresno, which I 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.080 feel like people don't understand how far that is from 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.560 LA even though it's not really that far from LA, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:50.920 it's very far from LA. I felt a kinship and 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.000 a community that I have not really felt all the time, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:59.200 I without being in the actual thing, in the actual 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.640 like Writers Guild Staff Union, which is what it's called, 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.399 the Writers' Guild Staff Union. I don't know what happened. 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.040 They said they let her go from cause, but the 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.880 union itself is asking the Writers Guild to reinstate Fatima, 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.440 and I really support this. I really really am saddened 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.120 that this has been the reaction of the Writers Guild 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.840 because I showed up at three am for pickets because 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.320 my union asked me too. When I was harassed by 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.640 studio lots during this picket, I still showed up. When 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.840 I was sometimes harassed by WGA members who didn't like 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.120 me asking them to not get hit by a car, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.760 I still showed up. And I will always have more 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.440 solidarity with Fatima, who is an immigrant who worked for 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.320 like working class people in this town than I ever 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.320 will the like white millionaires who were constantly giving speeches 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.880 and telling me what to do that time. I'm really upset. 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.439 If I could give a piece of action to people 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:52.640 to zeitgang like, go to their instagram, the WGA Staff 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.719 Union Instagram and just follow them and say congratulations. That's 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.399 all you have to do. If you are a WGA member, 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.200 and this is the first time you're hearing about this. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.480 You need to ask your captain why this happened and 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.320 let them know that it upsets you because she was 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.199 an amazing labor organizer. And it's really really sad what 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:12.879 the guilds do. They're not even talking about it. They 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.600 said she was fired for cause, and I know enough 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.480 people in the staff to know that that's not a 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:20.560 good enough answers. 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:20.760 All. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.760 I will say, Yeah. 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:30.680 So's the staff of the Guilt newly. 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.680 Formed in April. They they fired her the day before 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:38.639 they announced their formation, which is sus Writers Guild Staff Union. 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.440 Is what you should look for on Instagram. Just follow them, 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.720 and if you're in the guild, be nice, be nice 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:44.879 about asking the question. 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.600 Yeah, all right, great, overhanded, underrated. 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.000 We are gonna take a quick break. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:50.720 We're gonna come back. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.040 We're gonna talk about We're gonna check in on our 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:54.720 friends at the New York Times see how they're dealing 0:18:54.760 --> 0:19:00.080 with all this upheaval, all the stunning, shocking changes of 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:14.840 be right back and we're back, We're back, and yeah, 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.160 so I just I just want to read the headline 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.400 and then the sort of subhead from the New York 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:26.439 Times one Zorn's mayoral win primary win, uh said, Donnie 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.320 success in mayoral primary reverberates beyond New York City. Yeah 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:36.000 that makes sense, yeah, yeah yeah. And then as Zorammdanni 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:40.400 pledges major changes after his apparent primary win, national Democrats 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.080 are looking for lessons and Republicans see a new political target. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:51.800 So that's the headline that you would have if the 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.480