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Speaker 4: welcome to season three ninety four, Episode five of Deady's Guy.

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Speaker 4: The exciting conclusion of season three ninety four, one of

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Speaker 4: It's Friday, June twenty since twenty since twenty seventh, twenty

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Speaker 4: What's happening on June twenty seven?

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I was just so disappointed Jack that you

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's oh look, it's National Sunglasses to Day, National

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Speaker 6: So yeah, great, I love a sunglass.

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Speaker 2: Do you call it song? Just put my sunglasses a long?

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Speaker 4: What is he doing on this show?

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Speaker 6: Doesn't it feel good to feel good?

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Speaker 1: Is this for real?

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Speaker 1: Is this gonna get fucking destroyed? Right, because that's what

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Speaker 4: obvious thing they needed to do to win. That's what

441
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Speaker 4: the last big moment they had, Well, they give it.

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Speaker 3: Let them fail so that in nine months then they

443
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Speaker 3: can say, look how they fail and we'll all be dead.

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Speaker 3: But they can.

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Speaker 6: Say that, right, like how we killed our base.

446
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Speaker 4: Whoops, it's really giving Nico And like the the Luca trade,

447
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 4: it's just bad because I just like the what the

448
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Speaker 4: Democrats did in the twenty twenty four election, where like

449
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Speaker 4: they came in, had like a little spark at the start,

450
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Speaker 4: and we're like, we're gonna call them weird, We're gonna

451
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Speaker 4: like talk about price gouging and shit like that, and

452
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Speaker 4: then immediately started like tacking right and just ignoring what

453
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Speaker 4: everybody in their base like knew they should do. Is like, yeah,

454
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Speaker 4: it's it's giving Nico. Like the ninety eight percent of

455
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Speaker 4: their fans and supporters would have done a better job

456
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Speaker 4: than they just did. And it was like a highly public,

457
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Speaker 4: highly consequential this series of decisions that they just failed

458
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Speaker 4: at in a way that we were like, well that

459
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Speaker 4: seems wrong, like over and over repeatedly.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I mean yes, and it's the same

461
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Speaker 3: thing they did in twenty twenty. I won't. I'm still

462
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Speaker 3: upset about March twenty twenty when Bernie was doing okay

463
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: and then like Amy klover Jar and Buddha Judge and

464
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: everybody was just like, oh shit, let's just jump behind

465
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Speaker 3: the centrist and it's it's it's them attacking what their

466
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 3: voters actually want like they it's it's it's we're never

467
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Speaker 3: going to freaking learn this lesson of doing slow Fascism

468
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Speaker 3: is what I think the Democrats are pitching to us,

469
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Speaker 3: because it's like they keep saying like, oh, democracy is

470
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Speaker 3: in danger. We have to do things that like actually

471
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Speaker 3: in it, like energize people, and then Zoron comes out

472
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Speaker 3: here and is like, I'm a freezer rent. I'm actually

473
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Speaker 3: going to do some price controls for food. I'm not

474
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Speaker 3: saying you got a shop at the NYC grudge shop

475
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Speaker 3: at the grit do it. I don't care. I'm gonna

476
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Speaker 3: make buses fast and free. None of this is bad.

477
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Speaker 3: Like the fact that the Democrats, which are supposed to

478
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Speaker 3: be the opposition party, have like you know, Hakim Jeffries,

479
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Speaker 3: I think a couple like right after the election finally

480
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Speaker 3: said like I'm gonna sit down and talk to this

481
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Speaker 3: or really really like a year into his or two

482
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Speaker 3: years into him running for this seat, you finally decided

483
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Speaker 3: that you're going to You're going to stand for the

484
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Speaker 3: guy who is not the sexual predator. You're going to

485
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Speaker 3: stand for the guy who was not killing people's grandmas.

486
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Speaker 3: And like it's I'm still trying to understand why Andrew

487
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: Cuomo thought he could come back, because it's like that

488
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Speaker 3: was three years ago. Dog like some of us have

489
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Speaker 3: like COVID brain, but not that I remember my grandma.

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Speaker 1: That you did. The established I mean, I think all

491
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Speaker 1: these establishment Democrats, whether they're like part of the infrastructure

492
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Speaker 1: of the party or the politicians themselves, they just think

493
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Speaker 1: it's it's still nineteen ninety eight or some shit like

494
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Speaker 1: they're thinking is stuck there and they don't even see

495
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Speaker 1: like what the what the consequences are of them constantly

496
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Speaker 1: knocking back a perceived leftist or hyper ultra left wing

497
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Speaker 1: policy in favor for something that looks more like two.

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Speaker 4: Thousand and four Republicans yea, And they're like they're pitches

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Speaker 4: fascism you can sleep through. And he's like, change that

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Speaker 4: you can believe in, and they're like, I think we

501
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Speaker 4: want the fascism you can sleep through. I think that's

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Speaker 4: what people prefer. They've been doing it for like a

503
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Speaker 4: decade now. It's it's brunch. Fascism is what you can get,

504
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Speaker 4: and that's pretty what. You know.

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Speaker 1: Some people are insulated enough that they're fine with a

506
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Speaker 1: world like that, but the majority of us that live

507
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Speaker 1: in this country are absolutely not. And I think they

508
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: don't realize that. Every time they knock one of these

509
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,719
Speaker 1: policies back, they're saying fuck you to all the people

510
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Speaker 1: that stood to benefit from that policy. They don't realize that.

511
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Speaker 1: But when they say every time they don't take action

512
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Speaker 1: on police brutality and shit like that, they lose people. Okay,

513
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: every time they've pump faked codifying row, they lose people.

514
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Speaker 1: Every Time they don't take aggressive action to fight corporate greed,

515
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Speaker 1: they lose people. Every time they don't they fucking fail

516
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Speaker 1: the dreamers. They lose people. So how the fuck do

517
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Speaker 1: they think they're gonna get him back by being like, well,

518
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do some really cheeky rezoning to help some

519
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Speaker 1: you know, this luxury condo will have fourteen affordable units,

520
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Speaker 1: within it.

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Speaker 4: Like at a time and place of our choosing. That's

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Speaker 4: the summary of just being like we're gonna do that

523
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Speaker 4: at a time and place of our choosing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they realize, you know, because again,

526
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 3: so much of the power in the Democratic Party is

527
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Speaker 3: either old or is capitulating to the old I e.

528
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Speaker 2: Hockey and Jeffries.

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Speaker 3: And it's just like they don't realize the word socialism

530
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Speaker 3: is not it's not nineteen fifty eight. Like kids aren't

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Speaker 3: scared of that.

532
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Speaker 2: Like most like nineteen fifty eight.

533
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Speaker 3: In this I mean they talk like it's nineteen fifty eight.

534
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Speaker 3: I mean like fucking day after, not even a day

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Speaker 3: after he wins. It's just like there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: nine eleven in New York.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be his fault.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, okay, first of all, whatever, I don't

539
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Speaker 3: know where to begin.

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Speaker 1: With that, but like because oh, because it was Juliani's

541
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Speaker 1: fault too, Is that what I know?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: I was just saying because he's a Muslim, that that's

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Speaker 1: that that equals nine to eleven. Okay, cool, yeah, you're

545
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Speaker 1: you're naked. Islamophobia also ain't hidden.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I don't think. I don't think my niece.

547
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Speaker 3: I have a five sisters, so I have billion nieces

548
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: and laftews. I don't think these kids under like they're

549
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: not even kids anymore, most of young adults, but like

550
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: socialism is not a scary thing to them. Like a

551
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Speaker 3: lot of them, they grew up in a world where

552
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Speaker 3: they could see a kid in a country that had

553
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: like socialist leaders, and they're fine. They're perfectly fine. I'm

554
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: and I'm a big fan of France. I talk about

555
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: it way too much, as my friend tell me. But

556
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Speaker 3: like the mayor of France is a socialist France. Yeah,

557
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Speaker 3: an Hildago, she's this amazing socialist who has been pushing

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Speaker 3: through like things like making France even more. Sorry, Mayor,

559
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Speaker 3: I said, Mayor France, forget me, don't judge me French people.

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Speaker 7: American right now, I know, Oh god, you have no

561
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Speaker 7: idea how deeply you cut me by pointing that out

562
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Speaker 7: the mayor of Paris.

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Speaker 1: I was confused because I was willing to be like, oh,

564
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Speaker 1: maybe that this is just a position.

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Speaker 3: I no, no, no, no, no, I wish, Mayor, I actually

566
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Speaker 3: I don't wish, but like an Hildago, the mayor of Paris,

567
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Speaker 3: specific with the city of Parents, which is not France.

568
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Speaker 3: I know that French people forgive me uh is a

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Speaker 3: socialist and has been making the city bikable and walkable.

570
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Speaker 3: And guess what, she's not the left most leftist party

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Speaker 3: in the country. Like it's it's there are wonderful things

572
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: that can happen if your party makes their core. We

573
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: actually want to distribute wealth and resources, and and younger

574
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: people know that. And frankly, I think they I think

575
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: they finally understand that we've been conning them this whole

576
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Speaker 3: time with this idea that like America just is the best.

577
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Speaker 3: It's like, no, we can I got, I got fucking TikTok.

578
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Speaker 3: Like I can see people going to like on vacation

579
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Speaker 3: for months.

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Speaker 4: And America once. That's why they're undermining us. Yeah, that's exactly,

581
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Speaker 4: That's how they That's how they win.

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Speaker 1: America is like a like a like an ultra sports

583
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Speaker 1: car from the eighties. But every year you get further

584
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Speaker 1: from the eighties, the more it looks like shit, you

585
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And you're like, oh, no, bro

586
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: blowing up in that. It looks fucking weird now, and

587
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: people are like, hey man, it's a Ferrari or whatever,

588
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: it's a Doorian.

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Speaker 4: These yeah, could really go for like fifteen seconds.

590
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Speaker 1: But like what Zorin is even you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: his policies aren't necessarily like capital s socialism either, Like

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Speaker 1: these are things like that you would have seen FDR

593
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Speaker 1: like get behind. It's like, hey man, we got to

594
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Speaker 1: make some food affordable. How about we expand the ability

595
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Speaker 1: for people to take care of their kids and you know,

596
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: but these again, these are things that are just straight

597
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Speaker 1: to the point because he's consistent around the concept of

598
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: shit costs too much and we need to do something

599
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Speaker 1: that the people will actually feel like when you say it,

600
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Speaker 1: they go, ah, yes, that rather than bureaucratic like wonk

601
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Speaker 1: talk and they're like, oh great, a three point the

602
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: three percent, Like what.

603
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: Like you start talking shit like that.

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00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: People don't understand free buses, yes, right, price controlled supermarket great, yeah, you.

605
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 3: Know, free things for new parents, how dare you?

606
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

607
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Speaker 4: But that's why I think it's so dangerous, so difficult

608
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: for the mainstream to deal with is just the one

609
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: thing that they had that the Democrats had was the

610
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Speaker 4: idea that they were the path, like they were the

611
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Speaker 4: practical path, like the you know, socialism is nice in theory,

612
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Speaker 4: you can't win elections. It scares people, and then you.

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Speaker 3: Know, people wildly vote for it.

614
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then everybody.

615
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: Votes for it.

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Speaker 4: And there I think now they're like, well, it doesn't

617
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Speaker 4: you can't actually do it. But I just want to

618
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Speaker 4: read this other quote from the article. But with Democrats

619
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Speaker 4: shut out of power in Washington and focused on taking

620
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Speaker 4: back the House next year, it remains unclear how closely

621
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Speaker 4: senior lawmakers will embrace mister Momdani as they try to

622
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Speaker 4: flip battleground districts where his far left stances might alienate voter.

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Speaker 4: It is, of course no acknowledgment that this very publication

624
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Speaker 4: where this is being written was saying this very same

625
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: thing about his policies in New York City, right, Like

626
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Speaker 4: they were like New York is tacked right and like

627
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Speaker 4: traditionally like they've been open to voting for Democrats and Republicans.

628
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Speaker 4: Oh and also it is the like this is said

629
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Speaker 4: elsewhere in the article, it is the fucking capital of capitalism.

630
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Speaker 2: It is the.

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Speaker 4: Capital of capitalism. They just voted for a socialist and

632
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: they're like, well that couldn't work anywhere else.

633
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh, so said it couldn't work there as far as

634
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Speaker 1: I know, those ago those people don't eat food or

635
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: have babies to take care of in that in those

636
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Speaker 1: battle ground states.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if these policies will fucking appeal, Like,

638
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: are be for real?

639
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Where is this place they're talking about? Because like

640
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Speaker 3: I will Okay, granted again, I come from Fresnoe, California.

641
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: It's a very conservative air part of California. They may be,

642
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: they may still be afraid of like the term socialism,

643
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: But if you just talk to people about like, yo,

644
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: do you want your house to be like less expensive? Right,

645
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: they're down? Would you like eggs to just be a

646
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: normal price? Again?

647
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: Yes?

648
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely down for it? Like do you have a problem

649
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: giving a new mother some supplies to get started with?

650
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: No?

651
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: What what? What kind of monster would? No one is

652
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: against these policies. They're against the the fear mongering that

653
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: you do around it. They're against this idea that somehow

654
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: raising the tax on the wealthiest people in your town

655
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Speaker 3: is going to impact most people, when in actuality, if

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Speaker 3: you go back to when you keep talking about what

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Speaker 3: America was great, those people would have been paying like

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Speaker 3: fifty percent taxes.

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Speaker 2: It's insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like and then I think people people

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Speaker 1: are beginning to realize that like all the fear around

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Speaker 1: you know, a wealth like progressive taxes on the wealthy,

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Speaker 1: they're they're ambiently getting all that fear from the media

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Speaker 1: that they fund, you know what I mean. So like

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Speaker 1: at a certain point of taka, like, do I know

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Speaker 1: somebody who's actually get fucked over by these progressive wealth taxes?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Actually I stand a benefit from all these other policies.

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Speaker 2: So this is a dec There's also.

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Speaker 1: Like the amount of just bed pissing from the Democratic

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Speaker 1: consultant class is so telling that I think that they

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Speaker 1: are I think they do see that they are losing.

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Speaker 2: Their grip a bit, like on the party.

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Speaker 1: And because this is where it's getting real, Like we've

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Speaker 1: been saying since the election, like the next fight for

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Speaker 1: the Democrats is who is going to be at the

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Speaker 1: wheel of this party. Is it going to be the progressives,

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Speaker 1: Is it going to be where all this energy is

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Speaker 1: right now? Or are they going to do everything they

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Speaker 1: can to just rest control again and drag this thing

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Speaker 1: to the right. This one strategist told political quote, it

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Speaker 1: is extremely alarming that the only candidates who genuinely excite

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Speaker 1: our voters are the ones making absolutely insane promises on

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Speaker 1: politically toxic positions. That's their take on what has just happened.

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Speaker 1: That's how they're trying to spin that, is that like,

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Speaker 1: this is all fucking stupid quote leaving us in the

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Speaker 1: spot of trying to execute on bad policy and losing

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Speaker 1: terribly or failing to keep our promises, and reinforcing the

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Speaker 1: idea that all politics is bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, So.

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Speaker 1: Again, I think we're saying all of their reflexive habits

692
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Speaker 1: of just spending money on studies and going for a

693
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Speaker 1: superficial deregulation and like zoning reform is just not working anymore,

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Speaker 1: And I think this must be This feels kind of

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Speaker 1: like probably what never trumpers were thinking when Trump stepped

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Speaker 1: on the scene in twenty fifteen, that were like they

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Speaker 1: did fucking everything. They're like, bro, get this guy out

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Speaker 1: of here. He's doesn't know what the fuck time. It is,

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Speaker 1: like we have our own neo con shit that we're

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Speaker 1: on that we're really we've protected this thing. We have

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Speaker 1: all the money, we control the media. Let's say we

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Speaker 1: can get this guy out the box.

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Speaker 2: But they fucking couldn't.

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Speaker 6: They could not, They couldn't. And he's still fucking won.

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Speaker 1: And I think he just again he had an appeal

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Speaker 1: sadly to the voters that felt like the party wasn't

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Speaker 1: really following through on their like racial grievances, and Trump

708
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: was there for that, and they're like, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm kind of what I've been missing,

710
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Speaker 1: really and in this, in this and with Mamdani, he's

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Speaker 1: appealing to the voters who are fucking sick and tired

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Speaker 1: of the Democrats just failing to liver and just talking

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Speaker 1: around things getting better, and they don't realize that that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening. It's like the ship gets hollowed out and

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Speaker 1: somebody's offering what you want.

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Speaker 2: They're all gonna move.

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Speaker 1: This way now, so and there, And again you look

718
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Speaker 1: at all the money they spent trying to smear mom Donnie,

719
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Speaker 1: like all the those fucked up attack ads trying to

720
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Speaker 1: paint him as a terrorist and ship. And he's still

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Speaker 1: fucking won. And I think again, there's I think they're

722
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Speaker 1: they're starting to be like, fuck man like, but but

723
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Speaker 1: we don't do stuff that's going against the status quo.

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Speaker 2: We're they're a fuck.

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Speaker 6: We're the constant gardeners of the status quo.

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Speaker 3: And he won by getting people to go out again, Like,

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Speaker 3: can we just acknowledge that the big factor of last

728
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Speaker 3: the last presidential election was a lot of people just

729
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Speaker 3: did not want to vote because you gave them the

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Speaker 3: choice between the crazy guy that they had experienced already

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Speaker 3: and somebody who was doing a fucking whistle stop tour

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Speaker 3: with Liz Cheney, Like you we need.

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Speaker 2: To excite people. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were like, you know, what would be a

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Speaker 4: ideas if we ran against Trump with something that is

736
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Speaker 4: as close to Jeb Bush as possible, the person that

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Speaker 4: he'd be in the very first place to make it

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Speaker 4: clear to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, please class, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna add did you guys see Bill

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Speaker 3: Ackman's like frantic midnight tweet I heard about People were

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Speaker 3: saying him and Elon's tweets were real something that night

743
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Speaker 3: of the primary. What was his I either, So it's

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Speaker 3: it's again He's not. I'm not saying Bill Ackman is

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Speaker 3: a part of the Democratic Party. I am saying he's

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Speaker 3: one of these people who would literally give money to

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Speaker 3: anyone who would stop progressive from doing anything, But, like

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Speaker 3: he literally said, I woke up in the morning gravely

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Speaker 3: concerned about New York City. I thought, what.

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Speaker 8: Has New York City become that it avowts of an

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Speaker 8: avowed socialist has supported, who supported defunding the police, whose

752
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Speaker 8: solution to lowering food prices is city owned supermarkets, Who

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Speaker 8: doesn't understand that freezing the rent will only reduce the

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Speaker 8: supply of housing, who has no experience managing organists, let

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Speaker 8: alone a city of one hundred million, one hundred billion

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Speaker 8: dollar budget and two trillion dollar economy, and who believes

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Speaker 8: that chance of globalizing the are acceptable? When's the democratic primary?

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Speaker 8: And it's just like every time I see something like that.

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Speaker 8: By the way, that's the first paragraph of I don't

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Speaker 8: even know how many paragraphs I'm looking.

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Speaker 3: At here, God, but like he is looking literally for

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Speaker 3: anyone to run against him, and basically saying, I will

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Speaker 3: fucking destroy democracy in the city of New York before

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Speaker 3: I allow these people to have a progressive.

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Speaker 2: Lead, right, And because they see what time it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I'm my big fear and concern, And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there are smarter people working with Zoron who

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Speaker 3: who have thought about this is that the Democratic, the

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Speaker 3: mainstream establishment Democratic Party having the chance to get like

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Speaker 3: Bill Eichman money, will trade the city of New York

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Speaker 3: for that money. And that is what I think we

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Speaker 3: all need to be looking out for because if we don't,

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Speaker 3: if I'm judging the Democratic Party for the for the

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Speaker 3: next election based on how strongly they support Zorahan going out,

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Speaker 3: because like the man did it.

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Speaker 4: He did it.

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Speaker 3: He fought, he fought an established democratic machine legacy, NEPO baby,

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Speaker 3: he fought the billionaires who were giving him money. He

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Speaker 3: fought the general racism of America, and he got people

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Speaker 3: to show up. And if you can't get behind that,

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if this country even has an

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Speaker 3: opposition party, the rope up Republicans anymore.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's where I think talk, like serious

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Speaker 1: talk has to be about, like where where does this

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Speaker 1: energy go? Because it can't be put They can't be

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Speaker 1: trusted with the Democrats at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it has to, right, like the Democrats

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Speaker 4: just need to fucking step up, because yeah, and good luck.

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Speaker 1: But again, the thing is right, all of these this

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Speaker 1: donor class, the consultant class, they see that all this

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Speaker 1: energy is coming from young people, normal people who aren't

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Speaker 1: wealthy and are starting to realize, oh, this this inequality

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Speaker 1: is fucked up, and for them, they're like, shit.

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Speaker 6: Man, they're fucking realizing that we're fucking drink. We've been

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Speaker 6: drinking their fucking milkshake for centuries now, and they're getting

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Speaker 6: behind policies that are actually going to address that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to live in that world.

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Speaker 4: We need to stop him. Have you guys ever seen

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Speaker 4: Dark Knight Rises? I'm aware, yes, yesterday there's a guy

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Speaker 4: who went on MSNBC and was like, they're talking eat

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Speaker 4: the Rich. Have you ever seen Dark Knight Rises? The

802
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Speaker 4: part where they make the stockbrokers walk on frozen river

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Speaker 4: and then they fall through? That's I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 4: saying like, that's like, he's a lot of stammers. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he was evoking bane, which is always the sign that

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Speaker 4: they're in a uh in touch with three.

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Speaker 3: I think people forget how Gotham City got, how Gotham

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Speaker 3: was people were treated like shit, and eventually a rich

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Speaker 3: person got got and one rich person was like, maybe

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Speaker 3: I'll do something about.

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Speaker 2: This on my watch.

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Speaker 4: A let's take a quick break, we'll be right back,

813
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Speaker 4: and we're back and update in the world of AI.

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Speaker 4: A federal judge just ruled in favor of Anthropic, the

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Speaker 4: very not evil sounding AI company, and declared that artificial

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Speaker 4: intelligence developers can train models using published books without authors consent.

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Speaker 4: Cool cool cool for thoroughly transformative. Is exceedingly transformative, is

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Speaker 4: what the judge said.

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked into is.

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Speaker 4: This judge, Like, is this judge an AI? Are they

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Speaker 4: funded by the decision filed Monday and US District Court

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Speaker 4: for the Northern District of California. Huh, yeah, what's up

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Speaker 4: in Northern California.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, like it's one of them, Valley the Silicone.

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Speaker 4: Or something, but it was. The suit was brought by

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Speaker 4: several authors who didn't grant permission for their books to

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Speaker 4: be used to train AM models, and the judge was like,

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Speaker 4: that's tough shit. I guess right, yeah, which you know,

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Speaker 4: some people have pointed out, like I don't know this.

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Speaker 4: There there are some limits to this, but it does

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Speaker 4: create a precedent for courts to favor AI companies over

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Speaker 4: individuals in AI copyright disputes, and obviously AI companies pretty

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Speaker 4: well funded as far as I can tell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they're sure the precedent is there. But

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are saying like that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean every every court will follow suit.

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Speaker 2: But it but it does.

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Speaker 1: I mean there is a precedent now, But I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is just you know, the slow, slow creep to

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Speaker 1: I think, like the large the biggest thing for me,

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Speaker 1: and you hear a lot of people, a lot of

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Speaker 1: creative people and artists talk about this in different ways.

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Speaker 1: Is like, how like, really it's not just like that

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Speaker 1: the works can be used to just make AI slop

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Speaker 1: that it can slowly erode our like humanity and our

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Speaker 1: will to create things from our own minds, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, And having these tools like that. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure obviously I think that people who are compelled to

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Speaker 1: create will always do that. But broadly, if it's like

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Speaker 1: becomes so easy by and I just type the words

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Speaker 1: in and now here's a video of the Pope of

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Speaker 1: you know, making a pizza out of a bed sheet

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Speaker 1: or whatever, You're like, this is really going to sounds

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Speaker 1: so sick, that is I look, I just did the

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Speaker 1: anthropic was pretty cool. But I just all that to

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Speaker 1: say is I can really see how this really disincentivizes

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Speaker 1: just even like the learning of an artistic skill. When

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Speaker 1: when things become created so like out of thin air

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Speaker 1: so easily, And I think that's just like kind of

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Speaker 1: the freaky part I think about all the time, like.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: You know, like when anyone can do everything, not to

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Speaker 1: say that that's a bad thing, but what does that

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Speaker 1: mean for the process of creating things?

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Speaker 3: I think you have hit on that because we talked

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Speaker 3: about this during the strike all the time, because you know,

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Speaker 3: we were AI was kind of new in the conversation

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Speaker 3: and we're like, what if they replaced us? And then

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Speaker 3: we started seeing what AI made and it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: this is a dog shit yeah, and it'll get better,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure as it steals from more people. But like,

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Speaker 3: at its core, there's this thing that I don't think

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Speaker 3: people are really thinking about.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear what a computer has to

876
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: say about being a black man in America. Miles. I

877
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but like.

878
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm open, let's see where they're going with us.

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00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 6: Let's see where this racist day I might be going

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00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 6: with this day.

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00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: It's going to make like the people engage with art

882
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: because it resonates with them, and generally people want to

883
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: feel a human connection to the source of the art.

884
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: I am sorry if you you might be able to

885
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: trick people into thinking that, you know, oh, let's just

886
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: let's let's pretend that like Fucking Sinners was made by AI.

887
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 3: Ryan's been lying to us this whole time, right, and

888
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: we saw this, this movie that was created by AI.

889
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: Once you realize that people not only not only do

890
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: people lose engagement with the art and with what they create,

891
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: but it loses its place in the in the zeitgeist,

892
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: that is that is what this and this is what

893
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: you cannot teach a lot of these like tech bros

894
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: And executives. That's what art is is that at its

895
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: core is it is a thing that connects with people.

896
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: Like Barbie is America's most if you really think about it,

897
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: Barbie's in one of America's most absurdist films. When you

898
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: think about it, it is about adult who lives in

899
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: an existence and then somehow magically trans transfers into reality

900
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: and has to deal with the oppressive the oppressive force

901
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: of misogyny. Like that is a crazy concept, and the

902
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: thing that makes it work is the connection that everyone

903
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 3: feels to having struggled against that, and I'm you know,

904
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: I'm again, I'm a writer. I obviously have a stake

905
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: in this, but like I I think that at I

906
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Speaker 3: think that as you go farther down this, it's going

907
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Speaker 3: to there's gonna be We're already seeing like fewer and

908
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: fewer returns from AI, Like people know what AI slop

909
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: is if you're under the age of fifty and you care.

910
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: And they don't like it, Like people.

911
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: Are actively rejecting it. Also, it's fucking boiling our fucking ocean,

912
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 3: right yeah, to your point of like I was listening

913
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Speaker 3: to some track online and I was like, what.

914
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 6: The fuck is this just kind of freaky sample they got.

915
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: Come to find out it's this French guy who just

916
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: like cooks up AI samples and then like flips them.

917
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 6: They don't really describe themselves as an artist.

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00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: But for me, I immediately was like, ah, all right,

919
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: like whatever, like it just like it's like to your

920
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: point in like, oh, this was so much more impressive

921
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: when you when you cause again someone who makes music,

922
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: like you know the time it takes to find a sample,

923
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: to to mess with it, to alter it and be

924
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: something new, and it's just like, oh no, I just

925
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: just do this to kind of find like weird stuff

926
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: and I make other things. It just I don't know,

927
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: it just completely took the enjoyment out of it for me.

928
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's true, like you you want to

929
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: connect to another person's creative process through enjoying their art.

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00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like people mainly use it. It's like this

931
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: look how like weird and like bad this shit, Like

932
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 4: that's the one place I've seen people be like the

933
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: hallucination is the point kind of like when the computer

934
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 4: gets really weird and you feel like you're looking at

935
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: someone's brain melting, like that's the only good thing.

936
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: But that's such a good point.

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00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: That almost feels like it's just like when someone's like

938
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 4: playing a guitar and like shredding the string, you know,

939
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 4: like it's just it's like the fun of it is

940
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 4: it being used against its purpose.

941
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: The most popular AI is AI that looks like shit,

942
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: so we can laugh at it. Yeah, always what it is.

943
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, well Zelle again, sorry for the truncated

944
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Speaker 4: run time. That is my fault, but it's been a truth.

945
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Speaker 4: I having you and we can't wait to have you back.

946
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Speaker 4: Uh where can people find you? Follow you? Hear you

947
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: all that good stuff.

948
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: You can go to the Inner Cities podcast wherever you

949
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 3: get podcasts. We started doing video podcast as well. You

950
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Speaker 3: can go do YouTube dot com slash at the Inner

951
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Speaker 3: Cities and you can see the interview I did with series.

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Speaker 3: And I'm azel Will on most things. I have a

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Speaker 3: website called azel Will dot com, my Blue Sky and

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Speaker 3: my ig or azel Will and uh oh yeah. You

955
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Speaker 3: can find me on Twitch and I'm actually starting to

956
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Speaker 3: do this experiment of writing plays live if you want

957
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: to see a playwright struggle writing plays live on Tuesday

958
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Speaker 3: nights and then other times I'm on Twitch getting my

959
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Speaker 3: ass beat in Street Fighter six, so you can see

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Speaker 3: that as well.

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Speaker 2: So what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, Aki Aki is the best and anybody Punk

963
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Speaker 3: the God has said a lot of shit about Aki.

964
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Speaker 3: You need to stop talking about my girl. You're mad

965
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Speaker 3: because you know she's good Punk. I respect you, don't

966
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Speaker 3: don't come at me. I'm sorry. If you know the FGC,

967
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 3: if you know the Fighting game community, I just stepped

968
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Speaker 3: to a person I should not and I already regret it.

969
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: I am the j Cole.

970
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't mean that. I mean that.

971
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Speaker 3: Please leave alone.

972
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Please. People were pressuring me to have that response and

973
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: it was misguided. Yeah, don't please, don't blame Kendrick.

974
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

975
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: Duster On HBO Max, there's a new show by jj

976
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: Abrams and LaToya Morgan that I cannot understand why nobody's

977
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 3: talking about. Like it's or I mean, I know there's

978
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff going on, but it's like they

979
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 3: have a very very beautiful look and high quality show

980
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: that stars Rachel Hilson from The Good Wife and Josh

981
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: Holloway from Lost and in the National backdamn Treasure. Yeah yo,

982
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: then the National Treasure that is Keith David in his

983
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: buttery smooth voice. The show is about a black female

984
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: FBI agent trying to take down a black crime family

985
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: in Arizona, and it's set in the seventies. Like I said,

986
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: it's got a great soundtrack, It looks really good, the

987
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: violence is really over the time and fun. But it's

988
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: just it's a really good show. And it's one of

989
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: these shows where, particularly as somebody who works in this industry,

990
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how marketing decides to market things. I

991
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: think it has something to do with like it came

992
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: out sort of towards the tail end of the of

993
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: the Last of Us season two, so I think they

994
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: were just like pumping all their money into Pager, which

995
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: I get. Like, it's a good show, it's fun. Watch Duster.

996
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: I started, I started watching is it is it a

997
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: pretty jj Abrams show.

998
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: It's a jj Abrams show. It's a good time show.

999
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: It is not like I don't think you're gonna sit

1000
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: and watch be like it's not the bear, Like you're

1001
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: not gonna have like an emotional journey with Duster. But

1002
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: that's why I watch Dusters because like it's fun. You

1003
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: get to see cool seventy shit and again, like soundtrack

1004
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 3: is not it's perfect, it's great.

1005
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Miles, where can people find you as their

1006
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: work media you've been enjoying?

1007
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: Yes, find us everywhere on or find Me, I was

1008
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: about to do the ending of Mad Boostie's jack I

1009
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: gotta get that out of me.

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00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 6: I gotta get that out of me. You can find

1011
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: me everywhere after?

1012
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, but you can also find us in

1013
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: the final series finale episode of Miles and Jackot Mad

1014
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: Boosti's or we Reep Up the NBA Finals and cry

1015
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: and beg the NBA not to stop the show, but

1016
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: it And also if you want to hear me talk

1017
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: about ninety day Fiance, you can find me over there

1018
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Speaker 1: at four to twenty day Fiance. Some works of media

1019
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Speaker 1: I like. Here's some posts that I enjoyed on Blue Ski.

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Speaker 1: The first one is at Firefox dot com. He just

1021
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: said to close one's tab is to admit you were

1022
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Speaker 1: never truly committed to the journey. And I kind of

1023
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: feel like that is kind of the hesitation I have

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00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: sometimes when I'm closing a tab at cl hubes that

1025
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Speaker 1: be's got as social posted Cris Cross Apple Sauce is

1026
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Speaker 1: the best woke.

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Speaker 6: Rebrand of all time. So catchy caught on immediately A plus.

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Speaker 4: Woke work which really well done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashman.

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Speaker 1: Last when Ashmon Rodriguez dot com Muslim guy, what if

1031
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: a poor person could buy vegetables?

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Speaker 2: Reasonable New Yorker. I am moving to a whites.

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Speaker 1: Only compound eleven four miles away from here as soon

1034
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Speaker 1: as possible. Please invite me onto the television to say

1035
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: this again.

1036
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: They will be they will be on TV.

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: That's America, That's the New York.

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00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: Times I was looking for. You can find me on

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Speaker 4: Twitter at jack Underscore, Brian on Blue Sky at jack

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Speaker 4: Obi the Number one enjoyed. A tweet from Ella at

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Speaker 4: Blonde Hot Coffee tweeted, the lion does not concern himself

1042
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Speaker 4: with the check engine light and that's those are facts.

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00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 4: You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at

1044
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: Daily Zeikeeist. We're at v Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you

1045
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: can go to the description of the episode wherever you're

1046
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: listening to it, and there you will find the footnotes. No,

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00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: which is where we link off to the information that

1048
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: we talked about in today's episode. We also link off

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00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 4: to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

1050
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 4: is there a song that you think people might enjoy?

1051
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is out of straight out of Georgia. Eddie

1052
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 6: nine V amazing.

1053
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Speaker 1: Soul, blues funk kind of singer musician. This track that

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Speaker 1: I will recommend called Love Move Slow. It feels like

1055
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: this could have been like an Al Green track or

1056
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: an Isley Brothers track, like the production, the esthetic, like

1057
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: it's so so on point for that era. But it's

1058
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: it's now baby, It's it's modern music. So this is

1059
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: a fantastic track. Eddie nine B Love Moves Slow All right.

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Speaker 4: We will link off to that in the footnote for

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Speaker 4: The Daily ZEI Guys is a production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 4: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna do it for us this week.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: We are back on Monday to tell you what was trending,

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Speaker 4: and on Saturday we do a little Greatest Hits.

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Speaker 2: Of the week. The weekly is like catch up on.

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Speaker 4: You bye Brian the editor, so you can go check

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Speaker 4: out anything you missed, but we will talk to you

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Speaker 4: all on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Have a good one, bye bye bye.

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Speaker 6: The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long,

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Speaker 6: co produced by Bay Wag, co produced by Victor.

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Speaker 3: Wright, co written by J.

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Speaker 6: M McNabb, edited and engineered by Justin Connor.

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