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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show kicks off right now. Biggest story in the

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Speaker 2: world continues to be Israel's war against the terrorists of Hamas. Currently,

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Speaker 2: we have the Biden administration Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln,

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Speaker 2: who has travel to Tel Aviv trying to both support

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Speaker 2: Israel in this, and I will say Blincoln's statement on

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Speaker 2: this and Biden's statement on the situation in Israel have

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Speaker 2: both been along the lines of what you would hope

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Speaker 2: would be said by any US administration. It also seems

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Speaker 2: that there's a move to perhaps make it more difficult

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Speaker 2: for Iran to get its hands on that six billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: So he's got a number of pieces in motion right now.

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Speaker 2: A big part of this is Israeli forces are striking

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Speaker 2: in the Gaza Strip. Air strikes are underway. You have

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Speaker 2: three hundred thousand reservists who have been mobilized. They're going

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Speaker 2: to be making their way through a very challenging urban

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Speaker 2: warfare environment. The terrorists of Hamas, no doubt, are going

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Speaker 2: to try to maximize civilian casualties as well as any

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Speaker 2: Israeli casualties that they can military casualties that they can

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Speaker 2: incur in this process. It is the stated goal of

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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nott Yahoo that Hamas will be crushed.

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Speaker 2: He said, Hamas is isis. Just as Isis will be crushed,

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Speaker 2: so too will Hamas be crushed. So this is now.

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Speaker 2: We discussed this earlier. I think I said even Clay

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Speaker 2: yesterday that Hamas is al Qaeda and must be treated

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Speaker 2: with the same degree of honestly ferocious response. It calls

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Speaker 2: for exactly what the Israelis are doing here, which is

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Speaker 2: to go in with a capture kill order for all

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Speaker 2: senior Hamas leadership. We now have updated numbers on that

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Speaker 2: horrific sneak attack killed thirteen hundred Israelis, thirteen hundred Israelies.

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Speaker 2: So you have the three hundred thousand reservists have been

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Speaker 2: masked to go into Gaza. You have ongoing airstrikes that

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Speaker 2: are targeting senior Hamas leadership. You have the US Secretary

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Speaker 2: of State in the region hoping to prevent this from

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Speaker 2: becoming a broader war. But something has just happened in

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Speaker 2: the last hour or so Clay brought it to my attention.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be just as a warning here, going

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Speaker 2: to be hard to hear about and even harder if

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Speaker 2: you're going to see this. But Clay has seen it.

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Speaker 2: It is out there and it comes directly Clay from

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Speaker 2: the x account of Prime Minister net Yahoo's I understand it.

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Speaker 2: What has been released and what's what's the latest?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's incredibly graphic. So you heard us

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Speaker 3: yesterday talking with the reporter who initially broke the news

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Speaker 3: about what was done to babies, to infants in uh

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Speaker 3: in this country h during this attack by Hamas. And

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Speaker 3: this is the Prime Minister of Israel's official Twitter account

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Speaker 3: and they tweeted out in the last hour and I'm

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Speaker 3: reading directly from it. Here are some of the photos

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Benjamin Nett and Yahoo showed to US Secretary

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Speaker 3: of State Anthony Blincoln. Warning, these are horrifying photos of

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Speaker 3: babies murdered and burned the Hamas monsters. Hamas is inhuman,

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Speaker 3: Hamas is isis and there is a warning label on

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Speaker 3: these photos. Nicole's the deck you heard us with I

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Speaker 3: twenty four News was the first person to report this.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to describe what the photos show. I understand

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Speaker 3: if you want to turn down your radio or whatever else.

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Speaker 3: But we had Nicole on yesterday, Buck, because already propagandists

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Speaker 3: starts saying, as they said about the Holocaust, Oh, this

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Speaker 3: never happened, this is an exaggeration. There were no babies targeted.

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Speaker 4: You've heard.

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Speaker 3: We need to play that clip, Alley, if you'll grab it.

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Speaker 3: That's going viral. And we played one part of it

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Speaker 3: for Nicole's the Deck yesterday, which specifically said, oh, this

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Speaker 3: baby part of the story is made up. There's nobody

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Speaker 3: who got killed at the raves. It's going viral. And

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Speaker 3: for your kids or grandkids out there, a lot of

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Speaker 3: people who are hyper on law are often susceptible to lies.

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Speaker 3: There is a picture of a kid. Now they've blurred

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Speaker 3: out the face of this baby that I mean, the

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Speaker 3: children are burned, babies burned to a crisp Buck, I've

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Speaker 3: never seen anything like this. So and the babies are

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Speaker 3: in their cribs. I mean, this is awful, heinous. I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure that anyone in America has hardly ever seen

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Speaker 3: think even the amount of post traumatic stress for people

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Speaker 3: talking about the people who were there being victimized by

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Speaker 3: people who are bodybagging these bodies, they've never seen anything

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Speaker 2: This is this is beyond anything that I can even recall.

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Speaker 2: Clay from the darkest and most heinous days of al

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Speaker 2: Kaide in Iraq and of what the Taliban and the

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you're comparing the most it's a

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Speaker 2: little bit like comparing the greatest evil of all time.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's yesharing pole pot with the Nazis. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's you're it's a level of evil that defies human normal,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember that there were you know, there

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Speaker 2: you know, only you people can make their own determinations

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Speaker 2: necessary to know that they're what happened, right which why

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Speaker 2: we're talking about it. It's necessary to have the record here,

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Speaker 2: the record here be clear of exactly what has gone

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Speaker 2: on to the degree that it can be shared. So

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Speaker 2: you need to know what these barbarous monsters of Hamas

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Speaker 2: did intentionally out of their way, planned to do to

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Speaker 2: what has gone on here if you choose to watch

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Speaker 2: full depth of the depravity and the evil. I understand,

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Speaker 2: But I also understand people who are going to say,

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Speaker 2: I know what it is. I oh, it's true, and

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Speaker 2: that's where I'm going to That's where I'm going to

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Speaker 2: leave it for now. It's important to understand all this,

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Speaker 2: I think Clay, because the response, now, the Israeli response

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Speaker 2: a lot of Palestinians who are going to die as

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Speaker 2: a result of this, as a result of this sneak attack,

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Speaker 2: And the Israelies are going to try to minimize casualties

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Speaker 3: Hamas wants that buck because they want the propaganda to say, oh,

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Speaker 3: as hell okay, and Hamas decided to make this war happen,

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Speaker 3: and in responding, Hamas is going to use children, hostages,

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Speaker 3: civilians as human shields in an effort to both dissuade

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Speaker 3: of these people die, they will put out their own

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Speaker 3: what happened to Israel.

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Speaker 4: It is not.

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Speaker 3: Hamas invaded Israel and they murdered what now you said,

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Speaker 3: it's thirteen hundred innocent people who were going about their

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Speaker 3: day to day existence. Israel's response to a terror attack

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Speaker 3: get fired up about this, Buck, and that's why I

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Speaker 3: want to share these messages. They're far too many people

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Speaker 3: bought into this idea of, oh, if my feelings get

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Speaker 4: This is out.

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Speaker 3: America is the greatest force for good that has ever

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Speaker 3: But evil still exists in our world. And the idea

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Speaker 3: is designed to delegitimize the good that we have done.

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Speaker 3: And when I see all these college kids, Buck, and

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Speaker 3: That is troubling to me because many of these kids

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Speaker 2: I remember in the in the my my earliest days,

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Speaker 2: more Jihattist terrorism going on than obviously right now. We've

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Speaker 2: But under the Trump administration, for example, we just didn't

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Speaker 2: Israel overreaches or Israel is going too far. It's a vile,

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Speaker 2: willing the lengths this enemy is willing to go to

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Speaker 2: I McLay. I'll be honest. It has been a depressing

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Speaker 2: gearing up. I even have one of my friends got

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Speaker 2: a message from a friend of his in Israel whose

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Speaker 2: for the world, really for humanity obviously first and foremost

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Speaker 2: for Israel and the Jewish people. But you know, everyone

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Speaker 2: needs needs to process this, and ever needs to be

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Speaker 2: reminded at some level. I suppose we have been reminded

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Speaker 3: leadership for making good decisions, But Buck, think about this,

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Speaker 3: if there had been a protest against BLM and George Floyd.

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Speaker 3: In the day or the week after the George flo

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Speaker 3: Lloyd video went viral, every kid that showed up at

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Speaker 3: that ANTIBLM protest would have been kicked out of the school.

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Speaker 3: You would not have been able to show up and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: I disagree with the motives of BLM, even though the

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Speaker 3: BLM motives anyone with a functional brain can see now

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Speaker 3: are incredibly destructive. You wouldn't have been able to show

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Speaker 3: up on campus and protest against BLM or say hey,

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Speaker 3: George Floyd deserved it. Any kid in America who showed

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Speaker 3: up on campus and there was a rally, it would

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Speaker 3: have gone viral. That kid's picture would have gotten out.

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Speaker 3: That kid would have been unemployable. He would have been

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Speaker 3: immediately kicked out of school. I don't think that's the

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Speaker 3: right move, and we'll talk about this at the top

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Speaker 3: of the second hour. But I would ask everybody out

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Speaker 3: there listening to us, why are kids allowed to show

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Speaker 3: up in protest and say Israel's evil Hamas did what

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Speaker 3: they should have done.

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Speaker 4: Nothing happens of those kids.

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Speaker 3: If you had shown up and said the same thing

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Speaker 3: about BLM and George Floyd, you would have immediately gotten

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Speaker 3: kicked out of school. We don't have free speech in

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Speaker 3: this country. On college campuses, we have protected class speech.

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Speaker 3: You can say anything you want about certain people, and

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Speaker 3: Jews evidently are one of them, and other groups are

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Speaker 3: so protected that you can't say a word of negativity

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Speaker 3: about them. Let me ask you this, Just think about this.

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Speaker 3: What does that say about where political power actually is?

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Speaker 3: If you can immediately yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah

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Speaker 3: a lot. If you can immediately be kicked out of

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Speaker 3: school for having an opinion that contrasts with the ascendant

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Speaker 4: At their alter and George Floyd.

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Speaker 2: Is a saint.

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Speaker 3: But you can say, hey, murder those Jewish kids and

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Speaker 3: nothing happens to you. What does that say about the

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Speaker 3: culture that exists on college campuses.

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Speaker 4: Just think about it.

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Speaker 2: Two, we want to hear from all of you. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this audience, you're our community, and you know this is

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Speaker 2: some of you. If you have friends or relatives who

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Speaker 2: thoughts or what you've heard from them, or if you're

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Speaker 1: Need a break from politics a little comedy to counter

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Speaker 1: the craziness. So the Sunday Hang, a weekend podcast to

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. Our three of Clay and Buck

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Speaker 2: kicks off, and we have a special guest for you,

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Speaker 2: somebody that is both in the news as well as

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Speaker 2: in the know when it comes to how to deal

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Speaker 2: with things like urban warfare tactics in a situation like

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Speaker 2: what we're seeing with the Israelis fighting against these hamas tera.

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Speaker 2: But this news story got our attention. Republican lawmaker erupts

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Speaker 2: it by administration officials during Israel briefing. Representative Derek van

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Speaker 2: Orden of Wisconsin confronted officials and shouted obscenities at them.

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Speaker 2: According to a Democratic lawmaker in the room, we wanted

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Speaker 2: to hear from Representative Van Orden, I was also a

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Speaker 2: former Navy seal talking about this, Congressman, thanks for being

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Speaker 2: to are.

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Speaker 7: Correct you bet hey. I want to be explicitly absolutely clear.

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Speaker 7: I use no profanity at all during that brief so

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Speaker 7: that is inaccurate. What is accurate is I didn't well

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Speaker 7: it's inaccurate that I erupted. I stood in line and

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Speaker 7: then spoke in a microphone. There was a doctor, I'm

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Speaker 7: not going to discuss anything classified during this interview. There

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Speaker 7: was a member from the National Intelligence Aincy, the State Department,

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Speaker 7: and the Department of Defense, and I just told him, Look,

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Speaker 7: I've been to hundreds of not thousands, of class by briefings,

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Speaker 7: and this was the most pathetic and useless one I've

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Speaker 7: ever heard. You've answered my question by your briefing. I

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Speaker 7: understand now why this is the greatest intelligence failure in

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Speaker 7: fifty years. It's your fault. You're horrible. Yes, I said that,

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Speaker 7: and then I talked to the State Department. I'm like,

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Speaker 7: what are you doing? Are we actually going to get

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Speaker 7: Americans out? Yes? Or no? And then the Department of

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Speaker 7: Defense talks like ten minutes, never mentioned the phrase American hostage.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, hey, that's your primary responsibility. We have American

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Speaker 7: citizens that are being helped captive by savages, and you're

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Speaker 7: telling me a bunch of stuff that has nothing to

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Speaker 7: do with this. Are you kidding me? So here's what

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Speaker 7: needs to happen. We need to vigorously and absolutely support

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Speaker 7: the State of Israel. Now we need to give them

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Speaker 7: whatever they need to get rid of these savages. That

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Speaker 7: includes all of our intelligence assets that they need, those,

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Speaker 7: all the ordinance, everything we need to provide that to

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Speaker 7: the people of Israel because Jews are being slaughtered in

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Speaker 7: a level that we have not seen since the Holocaust.

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Speaker 7: So I think my Democrat colleagues mistook what I was

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Speaker 7: trying to say. I'm terribly not happy with the Biden

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Speaker 7: administration in particular because they seem to have forgotten that

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Speaker 7: we are a co equal branch of government and anything

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Speaker 7: they want to send to Israel, which again I fully

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Speaker 7: support getting rid of all these terrorists, there's savages. I'm Austin,

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Speaker 7: so I'm how all these guys is long overdue to

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Speaker 7: get rid of these flows. But anything they want to

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Speaker 7: send over there, we have to authorize because we are

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Speaker 7: a co equal branch of government and I'm not going

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Speaker 7: to sit around anymore and just get walked on. Because

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Speaker 7: I'm a member of Congress, those people owe us truthful, honest, timely,

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Speaker 7: and accurate intelligence briefs so that we can decide and

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Speaker 7: do our constitutional duty as members of the House of

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Speaker 7: Representatives to provide the resources that are requested by the

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Speaker 7: executive branch. That's what that's about. And I tell you what,

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Speaker 7: if I was one of my Democrat colleagues and someone

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Speaker 7: talk to me like that, I would be very angry, because,

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Speaker 7: guess what, I disagree with my Democrat colleagues the vast

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Speaker 7: majority of time. But they're still members of this House.

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Speaker 7: Each one of them represents seven hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 7: American citizens and they are due to respect for that

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Speaker 7: and that reason. All well, so I'm not taking this

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Speaker 7: anymore from this administration. I do want to caveat with this.

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Speaker 7: Anthony Blincoln spoke with mister mett Nahu over in Jerusalem,

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Speaker 7: and this is going to blow your mind. I fully

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Speaker 7: support everything that Anthony Blincoln said in regards to what

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Speaker 7: they're trying to do to help Israel. So those can

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Speaker 7: exist in the same universe. I can stand up to

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Speaker 7: these people and say, you know, please do your job

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Speaker 7: and remember who you're talking to, a coequal branch of government.

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Speaker 7: And I can also say I support what the Secretary

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Speaker 7: of State said in Jerusalem about US supporting Israel. Those

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Speaker 7: can both exist at the same time. Clear that.

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Speaker 2: Congressman, Yeah, thank you. I mean I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: follow up and get a census to do you believe

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Speaker 2: that your Democrat colleagues in the Congress have an understanding?

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Speaker 2: I mean, are they you know, are are they ready

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Speaker 2: for this moment? And are they psychologically fully mobilized in

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Speaker 2: this fight against barbarism insofar as it means the support

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Speaker 2: of Israel that you're talking about, you know, is there

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Speaker 2: any trepidation from them or are they? Are they mostly

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Speaker 2: on board?

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Speaker 7: Well, we do have a couple of people in the

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Speaker 7: Democratic Caucus who are about anti semits. So are they

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Speaker 7: on board with this? No? Is there a place for

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Speaker 7: that in Congress? No? Do the vast majority of my

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Speaker 7: Democrat colleagues support efforts to allow Israel not just to

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Speaker 7: have the right to exist, but to live peacefully and

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Speaker 7: freely with their children. Yeah, they do. And my Republican

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Speaker 7: colleagues do also. So here's what I went on a

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Speaker 7: different network this morning and I said this, man, Hey,

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Speaker 7: if you truly believe what you're saying to my Republican

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Speaker 7: colleagues and I and to my Democrat colleagues who have

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Speaker 7: standard Israel signs and everything all over their Congressional offices, Now,

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Speaker 7: if they truly believe that here's what they need to

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Speaker 7: do on both sides of the aisle. You need to

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Speaker 7: vote for Steve Scalise and get him in a spirit

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Speaker 7: because Jim Jordan has endorsed him. Jim Jordan is a

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Speaker 7: very good friend of mine. He's one of the most

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Speaker 7: honorable men I've ever met in my life. I told

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Speaker 7: him that yesterday after the vote, and I know Steve

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Speaker 7: Scalize very well. And if a group of Republicans, and

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Speaker 7: don't let's not forget two hundred and eight Democrats voted

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Speaker 7: to vacate the chair and they were joined by eight Republicans.

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Speaker 7: That's that's how that really worked. If they want to

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Speaker 7: have a more conservative person than Kevin McCarthy, they've got

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Speaker 7: it in Steve Scalise, and Jim Jordan's going to his

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Speaker 7: nominating speech on the floor. So if these people really

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Speaker 7: care about Israel, if they really care about stamping out

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Speaker 7: and crushing these babbages that have committed these horrific acts,

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Speaker 7: then they need to get a speaker in that chair

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Speaker 7: so that we can do our job as members of Congress.

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Speaker 7: And a lot of folks around here in the House

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Speaker 7: of Representatives also need to understand that we are a

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Speaker 7: co equal branch of government. So when I have people

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Speaker 7: worshiping at the altar of intelligence agencies and the Department

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Speaker 7: of Defense, that's not all right, man, it is not.

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Speaker 7: I spent my entire life, adult life in the Seal

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Speaker 7: Teams in the Navy for twenty six years, multiple combat tours,

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Speaker 7: all that stuff I did. I was a recognized subject

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Speaker 7: matter expert in all special operations for intelligence work and

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Speaker 7: all this stuff. And so what I'm telling you do

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Speaker 7: your damn job to these agencies. I know what I'm

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Speaker 7: talking about. It's not a flippid statement. That is like,

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Speaker 7: I know that you know better than that, so be

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Speaker 7: better than that. And the Biden administration every single thing

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Speaker 7: to be called out from what they're doing that is wrong,

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Speaker 7: and they also need to be acknowledged for saying what

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Speaker 7: was right, which is exactly what the Secretary of State

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Speaker 7: did in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 3: Today, we're talking to Representative Mature. Oh sorry, god, no, No,

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Speaker 3: you're fine. I appreciate you coming on. We're talking to

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Speaker 3: Representative Derek van and Orden of Wisconsin. You said you

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Speaker 3: support what Secretary of State has said, but you also

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Speaker 3: when you started and thanks for coming on with us,

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Speaker 3: said that you thought this was the biggest intelligence failure

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Speaker 3: in fifty years. Do you think this intelligence failure is

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Speaker 3: worse than the failure for nine to eleven?

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Speaker 7: That is a very good question. I would let me

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Speaker 7: rephrase that this is the worst intelligence failure in fifty

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Speaker 7: years in the Middle East, and fifty years ago to

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Speaker 7: the day, October seventh was the younger poor war. That's

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Speaker 7: what I'm referring to.

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Speaker 2: No, nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Listen, dude, So why yeah, go ahead, No, I was

654
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Speaker 3: going to say, why do you think and that I

655
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Speaker 3: just want to make sure that that's not bigger than

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Speaker 3: nine eleven, because I think you could argue Buck and

657
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Speaker 3: I have talked about this, nine to eleven was comparatively

658
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Speaker 3: much smaller. So the number of people involved in nine

659
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Speaker 3: to eleven was not thousands, so proportionally yeah. Yeah, But

660
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Speaker 3: so it's easier in theory to hide something like that

661
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Speaker 3: than it might be to hide what effectively was an

662
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Speaker 3: invasion of Israel. So I was curious on that, why

663
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Speaker 3: do you think and let the failure happen?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't think that Biden administration is focusing on

665
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Speaker 7: priorities that should be priorities. I mean, you can't argue

666
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Speaker 7: that that they've been allocating law enforcement and intelligence assets

667
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Speaker 7: looking at places that I don't think is appropriate. And

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Speaker 7: I'll leave it at that. But let's let's remember here

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Speaker 7: when this happened, the reason that it happened. One of

670
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Speaker 7: the causative actions of this taking place is the Biden starting,

671
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Speaker 7: excuse me, starting with President Obama giving Iran millions and

672
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Speaker 7: millions of dollars in cash and Biden giving Iran millions

673
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Speaker 7: of dollars in cap and giving Hamas millions of dollars

674
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Speaker 7: in cash. Guns are not inexpensive. You have to buy ordinance.

675
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Speaker 7: You have to buy those paragliders and machine guns that

676
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Speaker 7: they use to slaughter young people at a music festival.

677
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Speaker 7: You don't just like go pick that up at the

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Speaker 7: store for five bucks. So the amount of money that

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Speaker 7: the Biden administration has funneled to Iran, which is a

680
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Speaker 7: terrorist regime that then gave it to Hamas is wrong

681
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Speaker 7: with Jahad and a large group of other isis everybody

682
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Speaker 7: that came from American tax Daire's dollars that were given

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Speaker 7: to this regime by the Biden administration and previously by

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Speaker 7: the Obama administration. And no one can argue that, you

685
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Speaker 7: know what I mean, that's not a political statement. That's

686
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Speaker 7: just it's actual. So you can't give Aron hundreds of millions,

687
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Speaker 7: now billions of dollars and expect them to like plant

688
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Speaker 7: a daisy field with that. They're gonna buy bombs and guns,

689
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Speaker 7: and they're gonna give them to Hamas, and they're going

690
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Speaker 7: to train them, they're gonna work them up, and they're

691
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Speaker 7: gonna help them infiltrate Israel. Those those are just factual statements.

692
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Speaker 7: Is the most absurd thing in the world. To think

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Speaker 7: that somebody from Wisconsin, where I live, best place in

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Speaker 7: the world, by the way, dairy farmer who's working, you know,

695
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Speaker 7: he's milking three times a day. It's absurd to think

696
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Speaker 7: that that person's tax dollars paid for the ordinance that

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Speaker 7: Hamas used to slaughter Jews at a level that we

698
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Speaker 7: haven't seen since the Holocaust. That's just that doesn't make

699
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Speaker 7: any sense to anybody if you actually break it down

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Speaker 7: to them. My dairy farmers in the state of Wisconsin

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Speaker 7: paid their tax dollars. Those tax dollars were given by

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Speaker 7: the Bombing administration and the Biding Ministe to Iran, who

703
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Speaker 7: gave money to Hamas who funded these attacks. Yeah, that's

704
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Speaker 7: not okay, dude.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when you.

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Speaker 3: Look, you mentioned that there are anti Semites, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's true in the Democrat caucus inside of the

708
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Speaker 3: House right now. I've heard from a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: and I'm curious if you have from your constituents in

710
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Speaker 3: the great state of Wisconsin, there that in some ways

711
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Speaker 3: when you see the way these college and universities have

712
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Speaker 3: responded to this, this has actually been a clarifying moment

713
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Speaker 3: because I've heard from a lot of people who are

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Speaker 3: stunned by how much support for Palestine, by how much

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Speaker 3: support for Hamas. Otherwise educated people have been putting out

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Speaker 3: into the world with their statements and their actions. Were

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Speaker 3: you surprised to see as much support as we have

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Speaker 3: seen for Hamas in the Palestinians in this week, even

719
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Speaker 3: in the immediate aftermath of what we saw on Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Or did you expect it?

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Speaker 7: I expected it. You know, a leopard can't change its spots. Man.

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Speaker 7: These people have been saying that they're trying to equivocate

723
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Speaker 7: terrorist actions against Jews and against our own people, American people,

724
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Speaker 7: for a very very long period of time. So I

725
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Speaker 7: would have been surprised if they didn't come out and

726
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Speaker 7: do this. And we're kicking around some ways to I

727
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Speaker 7: don't think a single nickel of American taxpayers dollars should

728
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Speaker 7: be going to Harvard unless they clean up their house.

729
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Speaker 7: So they've got those student organizations that flat out said, well,

730
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Speaker 7: you know, maybe killing Jesus and so bad? Are you

731
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Speaker 7: kidding me? No? Why are we paying them? They got

732
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Speaker 7: what a billion dollar in endowment? Anyway, we shouldn't be

733
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Speaker 7: funding these universities if they are centers of hate, if

734
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Speaker 7: they are encouraging terrorism, why which they are, those statements

735
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Speaker 7: encourage terrorism? Why on earth should my dairy farmer from

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Speaker 7: Wisconsin pay his tax dollars into a system that's going

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Speaker 7: to pay those universities so that they ca and praise Hamas,

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Speaker 7: which is a terrorist organization. Again, that's not okay. Do

739
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Speaker 7: I have a problem with high education. No, I'm a

740
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Speaker 7: lifelong learner. I actual dropped out of high school and

741
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Speaker 7: I was sixteen. I didn't get a college degree until

742
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Speaker 7: I was forty four. I get accepted to law school fifty.

743
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Speaker 7: I love learning. But when you have an institution that

744
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 7: is harboring and fostering these ideas that promote terrorism. I

745
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 7: don't think I should give you any money at all.

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Speaker 7: That's just insane.

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Speaker 2: Congress and vanscons First off, sir, we just want to

748
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Speaker 2: say we we appreciate your decades of service in the

749
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Speaker 2: seal teams with the Navy. Thank you for that, bringing

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Speaker 2: your expertise here today, and for serving in Congress for Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, sir.

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Speaker 7: You got it. Man. Oh, by the way, it's not

753
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 7: the great statable assustment, it's the greatest station. Get that straight.

754
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Speaker 7: I'm going to be come back if I'm going to

755
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Speaker 7: come back on the show.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got you.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, so you know for going, I'm

758
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Speaker 4: going into the future.

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Speaker 3: Fifty three billion dollars is the endowment at Harvard right now.

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Speaker 3: We shouldn't be giving them any financial support as the country.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, Hey, if you go to Harvard,

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Speaker 7: I don't think you should be paying tuition. There you go,

764
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Speaker 7: I said it out loud. You care so much about

765
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Speaker 7: student debt, then you pay their bill, not me?

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, no, I think there's a strong argument for

767
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Speaker 3: that when you're talking about fifty three billion endowment that

768
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Speaker 3: they're not touching and that grows every single year. Thank you, Congressman.

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Speaker 3: Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, be cool. See later. Bye.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm seeing a date on the calendar in December

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Speaker 3: when Buck, You're going to be on the stage with

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Speaker 3: the CEO of rad Diversified, current President of the Alternative

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Speaker 3: Secure your seat at investwealthsummit dot com. Today, Clay Travis

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Speaker 3: and Buck Sexton chuck up a win for Team Reality.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in play Travis fuck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Shit oh.

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Speaker 3: She is a fabulous member of the Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 3: Sexton podcast network, as is by the way, Carol Markowitz,

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Speaker 3: whose first podcast is now up you can go download that.

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Speaker 3: And Tutor Dixon has been doing a fabulous job of

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Speaker 3: putting up consistently entertaining smart original content on the Tutor

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Speaker 3: Dixon podcast, which is distributed through the Clay Travis and

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Speaker 3: buck Sexton network. Tutor, we got all sorts of serious

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Speaker 3: things going on in the world, But you are a

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Speaker 3: former star of a horror movie. If I remember correctly,

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Speaker 3: tomorrow is October thirteenth. You have got four daughters, and

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Speaker 3: we are coming up closely on Halloween. Do you have

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Speaker 3: your Halloween costume picked out yet? Do the girls have

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Speaker 3: their costumes picked out yet? Let's go totally like to

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Speaker 3: start off the.

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Speaker 8: Girls absolutely have theirs. We have Dorothy. I think we

810
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Speaker 8: have two Barbies, and gosh, the oldest is Miraculous Ladybug.

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Speaker 8: Gotta get Miraculous Ladybug in there. So yes, they are

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Speaker 8: all set. And this is the earliest that I've been

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Speaker 8: set for October for Halloween, so I'm really happy about it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: I'll do, okay, so that I can't wait for Halloween

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Speaker 3: either tomorrow. By the way, October thirteenth, Friday the thirteenth

817
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Speaker 3: just bewared no telling what craziness might happen associated with that.

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Speaker 2: Great day to have a big live event, Clay, but

819
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you and Tudor are going to be doing

821
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: that tomorrow in South Bend, Indiana. But Tudor, you have

822
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: got Michigan, Michigan State. You ran for governor of the

823
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 3: state of Michigan. We've been talking a lot in the

824
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: program so far about just being stunned by the lack

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Speaker 3: of moral just honesty from so many of these colleges

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Speaker 3: and universities. Are you surprised by how many students and

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Speaker 3: faculty all over the country have been refusing to condemn

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Speaker 3: Hamasa's terror attack and even worse than that, saying that

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Speaker 3: Israel's act actually the bad guy here.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think we're all surprised.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I've talked to so many people who are

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Speaker 8: just shocked by the fact that people are we had

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Speaker 8: heard this boogeyman of there's these people on the right

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Speaker 8: that are anti Semitic. It has been overwhelmingly young people too,

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Speaker 8: which I think is the saddest part. And I don't

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Speaker 8: know that they fully understand what they're saying or why

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Speaker 8: they're saying it, But I think that is where this

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Speaker 8: indoctrination comes in to play.

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Speaker 6: And we've been talking for so many years.

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Speaker 8: About who woke this, woke that, but it seems like

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Speaker 8: this has really been ingrained in the school system. And

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Speaker 8: you know, BLM was in our school systems. They were

843
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Speaker 8: doing these programs for kids. And now we have BLM

844
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Speaker 8: coming out and saying that they're on the side of Hamas.

845
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Speaker 8: I mean that they're on the side of a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 8: They have been educating our kids. Now we see our

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Speaker 8: college students who are suddenly coming out on the side

848
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Speaker 8: of a terrorist organization. This goes from woke to indoctrination

849
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Speaker 8: to radicalization. It's something we're completely shocked by I think

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Speaker 8: it's interesting that you see some of these Harvard students

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Speaker 8: come out now and go, oh, actually, that's not what

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Speaker 8: we meant. But we've also seen recently these studies that

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Speaker 8: have come out that say kids right now are so

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Speaker 8: desperate to be a part of something that they're joining

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Speaker 8: things and becoming activists on subjects that they don't fully understand.

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Speaker 8: I think that's partially what we're seeing. But we are

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Speaker 8: very much in dangerous territory.

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Speaker 2: Tutor the Biden administration response to this so far. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Tony blink In, the Secretary of State, is over in

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Speaker 2: Tel Aviv right now and he's trying to represent the

861
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Speaker 2: US and support our ally Israel and also talking to

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Speaker 2: other regional allies about what's going to happen in the

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Speaker 2: days and weeks ahead. What do you think about what

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Speaker 2: Biden has said so far and the general approach that

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Speaker 2: they've taken in the aftermath of this heinous terrorist attack.

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Speaker 8: You know, I have to say I wanted him to

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Speaker 8: come out strong and say that he supports Israel, and

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Speaker 8: he has he has said that, and you know, listening

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Speaker 8: to Anthony Blincoln this morning talking and talking about his

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Speaker 8: own family members who had been Holocaust survivors, and his

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Speaker 8: experience with that and understanding what it is to be

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Speaker 8: an American Jewish person and having that sympathy and that

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Speaker 8: his heart goes out to the folks in Israel and

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Speaker 8: that they have our full and total support as Americans.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's what we want to hear. I think

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Speaker 8: that there has been a little bit of you know,

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Speaker 8: why won't they call out Iran?

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Speaker 6: Why won't they do that?

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Speaker 8: And I think that for the most part, most Americans

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Speaker 8: right now are feeling like we need to cut off

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Speaker 8: the head of the beast and say this is the

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Speaker 8: beast and there needs to be there needs to be repercussions,

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Speaker 8: repercussions for this, and you can't just say we're going

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Speaker 8: to continue to give them money, they're not going to

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Speaker 8: have sanctions. They have to be tough on Iran, but

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Speaker 8: they're not doing that, and that I've been disappointed about.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt now you and Buck are going to

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Speaker 3: be getting together up in South Bend, Indiana tomorrow, I believe,

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Speaker 3: right What are the details, what are you guys up to,

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Speaker 3: and how can people get out and be able to

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Speaker 3: hang out with you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're going to be out there. I think it starts.

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Speaker 8: We open the doors at six or six. Wait, I'm

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Speaker 8: getting yes, six o'clock, six o'clock, and then we go

895
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Speaker 8: until about nine thirty eight, ten o'clock at night. So

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Speaker 8: come out and see us. We definitely want to. We'll

897
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Speaker 8: be chatting about everything that's going on in the news.

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Speaker 8: We'll have all the details for you on where everything stands,

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Speaker 8: and we're hoping that tomorrow is a pretty calm day.

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Speaker 8: We're hearing some rumblings of there may be some kerfuffles

901
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Speaker 8: around the country, so we're trying to make sure that

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Speaker 8: we get all of the news there for you when

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Speaker 8: we're there in South Bend.

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Speaker 2: This is the the MNC Nation Noise event at the

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Speaker 2: Century Center's Bendix Theater for those of you who are

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Speaker 2: in the South Bend area, and you can still get

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Speaker 2: tickets at Clayandbuck dot com. Casey Hendrickson, who's an old

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Speaker 2: friend of mine, great radio host up in South Bend,

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Speaker 2: will be there. Tutor will be there. I'll be there

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Speaker 2: obviously a lot of news to cover, a lot of

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Speaker 2: discussion that we have to have on a whole range

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Speaker 2: of issues, and if I could just switch gears for

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Speaker 2: one second, Tutor, do you see this poll Fox News

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Speaker 2: poll that has Biden Biden beating Trump in the Fox

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Speaker 2: News poll by a little bit but losing to DeSantis

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Speaker 2: and Nicky Haley. Was this a shock to you? What

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Speaker 2: do you make of this one?

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm not totally shocked by that, because I

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Speaker 8: think that the country as a whole, they don't necessarily

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Speaker 8: follow Trump's his rallies as much as they follow what's

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Speaker 8: going on with the folks that are going on Fox

922
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Speaker 8: News to be honest, and what's going on in these debates.

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Speaker 8: So we sort of kind of anticipated that there could

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Speaker 8: be a jump for these other candidates if Trump were

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Speaker 8: to stay out of these debates for too long, if

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Speaker 8: he weren't out there in the mainstream with these folks.

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Speaker 6: And I think that's kind of what we're seeing.

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Speaker 8: People are going, Okay, well, we're seeing him at these rallies,

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Speaker 8: but we're not seeing him engage with the GOP, engage

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Speaker 8: with the candidates. I think people are kind of tired

931
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Speaker 8: of that. They want to see him engage or they're

932
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Speaker 8: going to say, hey, I see Nicki Haley very serious

933
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Speaker 8: out there right now about what's going on in the world,

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Speaker 8: and NICKI Haley is an interesting candidate for a lot

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Speaker 8: of women because that's a demographic that we have struggled with,

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Speaker 8: and a lot of women go well. I like her

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Speaker 8: answer on abortion, I like her answer on foreign policy,

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Speaker 8: and I think that DeSantis is the same. People are

939
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Speaker 8: starting to go well, you know, if we're not going

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Speaker 8: to see Trump come in and engage with these other candidates,

941
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Speaker 8: we're going to take a look at the candidates who

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Speaker 8: are out there engaging with each other.

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Speaker 3: Tutor, do you feel optimistic about Republicans winning in Michigan

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four? I mean, I know we're sitting

945
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Speaker 3: at thirteen months out, but what kind of groundswell, what

946
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Speaker 3: kind of respond are you seeing. Joe Biden certainly way underwater,

947
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Speaker 3: I think I saw in recent polls in terms of

948
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Speaker 3: his popularity in Michigan. Would you bet on Republicans winning

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Speaker 3: the state of Michigan right now, thirteen months out based

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Speaker 3: on what you're.

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Speaker 8: Seeing, I wouldn't bet on it. I mean, I think

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Speaker 8: Michigan is always going to be a tough state. I

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Speaker 8: think that we have to get a lot more people

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Speaker 8: to go out to the polls. They are very good

955
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Speaker 8: at getting people out to the polls. I think the

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Speaker 8: Democrats are going to have an interesting year in Michigan though,

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Speaker 8: because we already have quite a bit of conversation about

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Speaker 8: what's going on in Israel, and if that continues, that's

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Speaker 8: going to be a tough balance for Democrats in the

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Speaker 8: state of Michigan because we have a very large part

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Speaker 8: of our population that supports the Palestinians and the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to cut you off there, because we talked

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Speaker 3: about this yesterday and I got the county where Dearborn

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Speaker 3: was in wrong, and we've got a big audience right

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Speaker 3: now in Michigan. Could you believe when we saw that

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Speaker 3: huge rally in Dearborn, Michigan where they were saying Hamas

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Speaker 3: is not a terrorist organization and basically that Israel is

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Speaker 3: the bad guy. I mean, that happened in the state

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Speaker 3: that you ran in, not far outside.

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Speaker 4: Of Detroit, right.

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Speaker 8: And so you have Gretchen Whitmer who waffles on whether

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Speaker 8: or not she's going to come out with a statement.

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Speaker 6: She just talks about the.

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Speaker 8: Region and all of that, and really you have to

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Speaker 8: understand that in the state of Michigan, she's doing that

976
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Speaker 8: because she's a politician. She's not a leader, and so

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Speaker 8: she's looking at this politically. And that's what a lot

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Speaker 8: of our politicians, especially on the Democrats side, right now,

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Speaker 8: they're confused.

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Speaker 6: What do we do? How do we rally the base?

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Speaker 8: Because the base is very split on this issue, and

982
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Speaker 8: this issue doesn't seem to be going away.

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Speaker 6: So I think Michigan is.

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Speaker 8: Very much in play for Republicans and Democrats are struggling

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Speaker 8: to figure it out. Republicans are still struggling to figure

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Speaker 8: it out. We've got to get people to go out

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Speaker 8: and vote, and there's methods that we have to use

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Speaker 8: to do that that you and I have talked about

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Speaker 8: before that Republicans are just not using right now.

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Speaker 6: But twenty four is our opportunity.

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