00:00:08 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come to be empty, And I said, no, guest, your presences presents, and I already had too much stuff. So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 2: Welcome to? 00:00:49 Speaker 3: I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're feeling nice. A big week for me personally. Couple days ago he drove seventeen miles to eat a eero in my car and that was so far the big event of the week. But more than that, it's all about today. Today, we have a wonderful guest on the show, just a dear man. I'll call him a wonderful person, a terrific guest, And I'm so thrilled, beyond belief. Joel Kim Booster Joel. 00:01:25 Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to. 00:01:27 Speaker 3: I said, no gifts. 00:01:28 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm glad that we can finally make this happen. Just you know what's going on, what's going on, Well, there is a global pandemic happening, certainly, and what's going on, what's going on is actually a nice sidestep of how are you? Because how are you is the worst question you could ask or be asked these days. But what's going on? What's going on? 00:01:52 Speaker 1: Well? 00:01:53 Speaker 2: I cleaned this room, which is great. It I really, I really enjoyed yesterday's weather, which was cloudy all day. I tried not to think about why it was cloudy all day because in LA it's usually something unnatural that's made it that way. And yeah, and uh, I went and walked down. I got a salad and I'm drinking this red Bull because I find that I'm on Vivance, which is a prescription similar to Adderall okay, and it's it's limited, it's it's extended release, but if you drink caffeine, you get it all released in one go. And I said, for for Bridger, not only am I going to be focused, but I'm going to be a little methed out for the podcast because I'm going to drink this red Bull. And so that's sort of what's going on with me today in this moment. 00:02:42 Speaker 3: Are you a do you consume a decent amount of caffeine? 00:02:46 Speaker 2: I do? I do. I Unfortunately in quarantine, I've sort of gotten addicted to it in a way that like I used to be able to forget about caffeine in a big way. I used to be able to go. It used to be a treat, you know, like sort of something actually something I would only do before podcasts or if I had to wake up early. But now our lot, my life is so much about routine that i've it's it's been added to the routine and it's never going away. And now I think I'm drinking too much of it. 00:03:16 Speaker 3: And mostly to red bowl er. Is it coffee or what's going on? 00:03:19 Speaker 2: I'll walk to get I can't. I am This is the other thing that's laid bare, been laid bare in this pandemic, is that I am not an especially domestic person. I can't. I tried to make my own cold brew. Oh I do that. It's a simple it's a simple process. Did you use I just got some grounds, left it out, you know, and then across the counter and then try to filter it into a different container. But the thing is is I used the ground. I used regular coffee grounds. You've got to have a course ground. You gotta have a course ground. And it was and it said that in the instructions, And yet I said to myself, what is that? And so I just used what regular coffee grounds. I can't make it. I don't like hot coffee. It's just a mess. I haven't gone grocery shopping in months. I'm ordering exclusively takeout and meal delivery services, and so red bull is not something that I especially enjoy, but it's just an easy way to get the caffeine that I want. And I use a lot of pre workout because I am working out are you working out quarantine as well? I'm working out at home. I'm working out at outdoor gyms. I drive to see me Valley sometimes to work, to go to an outdoor gym. 00:04:35 Speaker 3: There doing anything outdoors and Seemi Vallet seems. 00:04:39 Speaker 2: It is rough and I don't do it often because I mean, A, it's Semi Valley, and B I mean I don't know. For your listeners, this is a this is an especially regional reference Semi Valley, but don't bother looking it up. There's nothing there. It is home to where most of our police force uh in LA lives. Valley. Yeah, and I will say. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: When you mentioned this, I was picturing just essentially a prison workyard. 00:05:08 Speaker 2: For the Yeah, and that is that is very much the vibe. It's very much the vibe. I'm the only person who's wearing a mask. And yeah, so that's what That's another reason I don't go quite so often because I have to, really, I have to go if I want to go when it's safe, I have to go at a roughly five point thirty in the morning, and it's about a forty minute drive and how long for about an hour forty five minutes to an hour to drive home after and then you drive home after. But I've really gotten used to the MPR hosts on the on doing that. You know what, I really like Corva Coleman, and I really like there's a lot of names that I really like in the Marketplace Morning Report. I love David Broncaccio, Sabri Bena. Sure, yeah, it's a it's an incredible lineup of names that they have on MPR these days. But yeah, I also built. I built a squat rack out of two by fours and use that sometimes in my backyards. 00:06:04 Speaker 3: What how did you build it? Did you find a tutorial online. 00:06:07 Speaker 2: A YouTube, a YouTube? It's it was all the rage early in Quarantine was to build a squat rack in your backyard. And I followed suit, and my dad would have been very proud that I went to Home Depot and I didn't cry, and I really made it out. Although they did let me buy two drills, and I knew that they do, they did it deliberately because what I did was bought them by mistake. I bought them by mistake. I bought one drill, and then I bought what I thought was a drill starter pack, which is sort of how it was. I advertised to myselfond drill is a drill starter Yeah, that's well, you know, this is what ended up happening is I just thought it was like extra bits and bobs for the drill. And my greatest fear is to go into a hardware store and embarrass myself. And so I was like, you know, so proud. I checked out. I got out of there and I was like, nobody, I didn't have to ask for help. Nobody you know, you know, said anything to me. You know, I didn't embarrass myself. Get home, realized I had bought a drill and then an identical drill, but the but with a starter pack, And that's basically what happened. And they knew and they saw me check out. They saw me check out, and they said, this man is buying a drill and then an identical drill with just additional bits and bobs included with it. And by them letting me purchase those drills, both of those drills, that is them calling me a faggot. That is a hate crime. 00:07:34 Speaker 3: Actually, I'm in their defense. Maybe they just thought you were a drill enthusiast. Possibly, but does that exist. I just they must have seen me, and they must have seen the fear in my eyes. And I think that it was either done out of cruelty or out of pity, because I think that they knew that to say anything to me at that point would have sent me over the edge. I would have been just crawled into my Do you still have both drills? 00:07:58 Speaker 2: I have both drills that I actually have of I didn't return it because I had opened it. And that's how I realized that drills. Listen, Sometimes you've got one drill charging and you're using the other trail. And then at one point I had to even use my neighbors. I had to borrow a third drill. These drills outside of building the square, nothing nothing, They're sitting in my shed Now, I don't think I'll ever use any of the drills again, maybe to hang something, but I'm now using a lot of you know, the adhesive hooks to hang everything. Well you shouldn't, because every couple of weeks I'll wake up to a big, a crashing sound and it will be something falling off the wall, which is mostly my fault because I'm using I'm using the lighter ones for heavier paintings, but that's that's another story entirely. No, I get the temptation with an adhesive hook because I don't own a drill and I'm not handy, but I so what I essentially do is I just don't hang anything, which is also not good. But maybe I need to take take a step and just buy a drill or something. This is the first time I've ever lived in where I've hung anything on the walls, and I gotta say it doesn't make me feel any different about the space that I'm not doing. It makes me feel nothing. I don't think you're missing out on anything. I think that's what you need it to do. I think if the things were not hanging and you would feel it, I think it's kind of numbing. You in a way that you're just not aware of it. I have plenty of things that I haven't hung yet, though, and I'm fine with that. How long it'll be a year in October. 00:09:37 Speaker 3: Okay, but that's a decent amount of time. 00:09:39 Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know that's nothing, though, because I lived in an apartment in Chicago. I lived in a studio apartment in Chicago for almost two years and when I moved out, there were still boxes that hadn't been unpacked. Oh good for you. Yeah, I never I never bought. I bought a kitchen table, but no chairs, so would at the table to eat sort of sat on a futon that the same Walmart futon that I bought my freshman year of college. I lived on until I was twenty twenty four years old, I want to say, and so that's just sort of that's that's who I am. Like when I say I'm not domestic, it goes beyond not being able to make cooking coffee. It really is just literally a sort of lifestyle. Yeah, this the pandemic has made. This is the most decorated any home I've ever lived in has looked. Because of the pandemic and because I went on a real spree of just ordering Wayfair cabinets, you know, sort of, and I'm now complicit in the trafficking that goes on at Wayfair. 00:10:42 Speaker 3: Of course you've got ten children that you're a partner house, and this sort of thing exactly. Wait, speaking of like shipping mysteries, have you read about these like mysterious seeds that are coming from China? What I guess people are just in the male receiving mysterious like packet some seeds that. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: They don't like that at all. I don't like that at all. That's such a that is such the beginning of a of a twilight zone sort of scenario. I don't enjoy it. What's gonna happen to the seeds? What are the people doing throwing them out, planting them them to what end? To what end? 00:11:22 Speaker 3: If I didn't order a packet of seeds and I just suddenly had one, the last thing I would do is want it growing in my yard. Who knows what I mean? Maybe if I I think if there was like a traveling salesman who gave me a mysterious seed or being of course I'm putting it in the ground. Yes, we know what happens in that but just to get it in the mail. What a weird, eerie thing. 00:11:42 Speaker 2: What is an incredible new sort of wave of warfare we're living through? Of course, is just this. Send those American seeds. They'll plant them. They're a planting bench. I don't like that. I hadn't heard of that, and now that's going to keep me up at night. Hopefully I'm also but I'm also simultaneously I haven't received any seeds. 00:12:01 Speaker 3: Of course, I feel left out. Why am I not on this list for seeds? Well, I've just revealed that I wouldn't plant them, but maybe if I did get them. If you're out there, if you're the seed giver and you're listening to this podcast, get in touch with my mailing address, Yeah, send me some seeds. I'd at least like to have that little fear that you know I'm here and that you think I might plant some seeds. 00:12:25 Speaker 2: A big following, big following for this podcast. I checked thirteen thousand reviews. 00:12:30 Speaker 3: Thirty five million reviews from Europe to Asia to Australia. 00:12:36 Speaker 2: People around the glidos go on other people's podcasts unless there is at least ten thousand reviews. Okay, five stars, Well, yeah, seeds all this sort of thing. It's well, actually, I'm you know, I'm not great at segues, but I'm seeing a beautiful segue here, which is receiving things in the mail, which is something that a few weeks ago, I did receive a package. 00:13:04 Speaker 3: In the mail address. Yeah, I was when I was looking at my old apartment. We've moved in the lift. Oh you just moved, yes, And you know, we had talked about you being on this podcast and et cetera, et cetera, and I was told that I would be getting something in the mail, and I thought, I, who knows what this could even mean. I'm happy to get things in the mail. It's always a fun surprise. But Joel, I knew, you knew this podcast was called I said no gifts, and yeah, so I got this box in the mail and then I had to move, which is just hell. And you know, there are certain valuable things when you're moving that you really want to keep track of, things that you don't do not want to lose. This isn't headed in the direction that you think it is. There were essentially two things that I said, if if we lose these in the move. I'm just gonna have to throw myself off because we've all had one situation with this recording. If I lose the box that Joel has sent, then I will have to leave comedy. But yeah, you know there's a box of like family photos. I had to keep my eye on those, and I also kept my eye on this box because okay, great, I managed to get both of these into my house and everything is fine. But Joel all that aside. Again, the podcast is called I said no gifts. 00:14:28 Speaker 2: I know, but I knew, actually I knew you were moving. I knew you were moving, and I knew that you would be opening it in your new home. And it's just it's in me my you know, my mom is from the South, A lot of family from the South. I couldn't I couldn't resist getting you a housewarming gift, a sort of a token, something, something to protect the house really as you know, as a as a as an emblem, sort of a protection for your new house and sort of set the tone. And because you know, I didn't realize this until you said it. But you're not a decorator. You're not hanging things on the wall. This isn't. This is something that I think you can sort of display over a mantle or a fireplace. And again I don't. I don't see it as a gift. I think that's that's a really the way you're framing it as a gift is is wrong. I actually it's a warning. I will say I was sort of panicked about the gift. I would give you all pretense aside that I knew I was going to get you a gift for the pod, and I was forced to go to Amazon, which I've been pretty good about divesting from. But Amazon was the only company I knew could get you this gift fast and then the cancelationship. If you had known yourn in a solid month, I could have gotten you something from an Etsy store in you know, Taiwan, something really really really special. But Amazon it was and we didn't know. But I you know, I do love the way that the gifts from Amazon are wrapped. So that's something. 00:16:08 Speaker 3: Another dollar in Jeff Bezos pocket. And here we are, well, I mean all four podcast we're here. I mean it's actually now, I mean it is in a bag that says. 00:16:21 Speaker 2: No, wait cool, I didn't know that that's what it came in. Well, all things aside, I put it in this bad oh okay, okay, okay. 00:16:31 Speaker 3: You know when when we switched to pandemic recording, you know, a certain responsibility now follows on me as a host, which is frequently you've got to put You've got to wrap these gifts on something. Yah, most of the time. Absolutely, so you know I had Well. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: I think I think you might be surprised to find that this gift was wrapped. Oh well, let's. 00:16:51 Speaker 3: Get I mean, this is going to be a lot of unwrapping, so let me get into it here and okay, we'll just. 00:16:59 Speaker 2: Still in the box. Still in the box. But in that box I think you'll find Yeah, let's see here. At least I paid extra for it. So oh look at this and see look at look at the Harry Potter sort of, this is wrapping bag that it comes in. There really is. If you've ever received a gift from Amazon, you gotta admit, you gotta admit. As evil, as evil as the company is, they really nail the gift wrapping. 00:17:29 Speaker 3: I will say, well, let me let's say there's a card on here, so I'm gonna open this. 00:17:33 Speaker 2: Okay, I can't remember what I said. This is enjoy your gift from Joel. Okay, I guess I didn't say anything. Yeah. 00:17:41 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like a blue like a night sky. 00:17:46 Speaker 2: The bag. 00:17:47 Speaker 3: It's got triangles on it and I'm going to open it. 00:17:50 Speaker 2: Up now a gold ribbon. 00:17:52 Speaker 3: Oh this is a magic bag that this is and it's crazy. Okay, Okay, here we go. What's happened? 00:18:01 Speaker 2: And it's wrapped even further. Wow, Amazon stick imagine the pee breaks that didn't happen to get that double wrapped like that. 00:18:10 Speaker 3: Our soul was placing these stickers of oh my god. 00:18:13 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I feel I've just sort of created a Rube started a Rube Goldberg machine of terror just to get you this gift. Wait, which is and again, I want you to display this prominently in your home. I wanted to displayed prominently in the home above the mantle to watch over you. 00:18:39 Speaker 3: Then this will follow me into the workplace and yeah, I'll just hatred will surround me. Uh huh, you've sent me which it's a babble ahead of Michael Scott from the office. 00:18:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because I thought I was really thinking about you, and I was thinking about sort of what your vibe and what sort of your desk escape would be at whatever writing job you found yourself at next And I thought this would be a really good addition to the desk and I. 00:19:12 Speaker 2: Horrifying, Can I see it? Actually? Because I didn't, I didn't get a good look at it. I mean, I wanted to get you appt in more things I want. I really wanted to get you Jim, not Michael. I thought Jim was sort of a funnier option for me than Michael. And I also wanted to get you a pop head. But this is this is delightful. This is this is actually delightful. 00:19:39 Speaker 3: You know, you either get this on Amazon or you head to the NBC store. Those are the two places on Earth where you can get this one. Possibly a Spencer's. Yeah, possibly Spencers Spencer's. I mean it does say it's fourteen plus. I'd like that there's an age range on the A thirteen. 00:19:57 Speaker 2: Year old would not enjoy this. The satires would go well over their head. Okay, they wouldn't. They would say, a thirteen year old would say that that guy's not a very good boss at all. Who's what's going on? 00:20:13 Speaker 3: First? Running the paper company? Yeah, full disclosure. Look at this before we get into this. Apparently there are only on the back of the box. There's a Michael or there's a Dwight. Apparently those are the two options. Wow, there's not a gym. See that's what I was disappointed in. I almost got. I almost spent and this is ghost to bring up how much you'd spend on a gift. But here's the thing. 00:20:36 Speaker 2: I really wanted to get you one of those pop figurines right like the right the Funko Pop, the Funko pops I wanted to get There was a gym Funko Pop that was like eighty five dollars, and I would have been furious. I would have been so mad that you shrewth I really considered it, and I was like the mountain Like, I was like, is there a way on Amazon gifts to sort of indicate how much you spent? Like can you include the receipt? I was like, is there a way to include the receipt because the fact the eighty dollars of it actually would have been a big part of the joke, a big part of the comedy for me, and the fact that I couldn't include it was and. 00:21:20 Speaker 3: Also it should that should be an option on the gift receipts. You should be able to choose the font and color of the price. I think that you should really be able to indicate and present to the recipient how much money you've spent on them. I think let's get away from hiding the amount. Let's just make people feel guilt as soon as they open the package exactly, just show it off eighty five dollars for what is happening. I do not understand the world of funco pop. They I don't yell. The economy of funko pop is truly wild to me. I don't, I guess I don't. I don't really get collectible culture. I do there at all. 00:21:57 Speaker 2: I don't fling shoot, I don't understand. I own, you know what I will say. I own like hundreds of comic books that I keep for I used to think and they a lot. I used to like keep them in plastic covers because I thought, maybe I grew up I was a beanie baby generation person, and I was lied to by my parents who said that someday like basically, my parents treated my beanie babies as though they were a college fund for so many years because they were convinced. We were told, we were told that those beanie babies would be worth something they and so I did. I had sort of the same notion with comic books, but I have sense sort of just lugged them around with me because of aesthetic purposes, Like they're just like a fun just like truly the most base bass superhero comic books. I wish I could tell you I was somebody who was like into indie you know, presses and things like that, and you know the stuff that is elevated and now turned into prestige television. But no, it's it's all bass. It's all Marvel x men, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And that's sort of why I got you the Michael Scott gift too, because there's a big I have a big sort of chip on my shoulder about feeling like I my taste is so bad. 00:23:18 Speaker 3: So I feel like a bad taste. I feel like I think I don't know you that well, but I've always kind of looked at you as somebody of decent taste. 00:23:27 Speaker 2: Wow, I really appreciate that, because comedically, I would say I worry sometimes like that some of the things that I traffic in are first thought or maybe basic like because the thing is is I like the Office and I'm a shit and it's like it's one of those things where I'm like, I'm ashamed that this is this is had a hand in shaping me and my comedic sort of sensibilities. Whereas I look to you as someone who is singular and sort of like respected and know and like in your own lane, I would say that I occupy a lane full of little trash goblins who are tweeting about the same things that I'm tweeting about. But I, you know, I just I worry that, like some of my interests are a little bit too of the world in a way that like am I bringing an interesting pop Like I remember listening to the Langan Kingsley episode of this podcasting a Queen a Queen among men one. 00:24:29 Speaker 3: Of the funniest look Have I ever watched The Office? No, I mean it's a whole thing where I watched the British version and then I was kind of a snob, and then I watched the pilot of the American version. I thought it was bed and then when people started saying it was getting good, that's when they really started leaning heavily on the Gym and Pam stuff, and I thought that was so distasteful and annoying, and so I've I never watch it, but a lot of people, a lot of people I respect, love the office. 00:25:04 Speaker 2: Okay, well myself included, because you know, I've cried. I cried. I cried when Jim and Pam got married. And I'm ashamed to say it. It is, I guess, and actually I guess like part of it is too, is like I'm a shamed that I'm ashamed. You know. I wish I could just like what I like, enjoy without without having these little voices in my head that's saying I remember it. 00:25:26 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's impossible to just purely enjoy anything. I think the internet makes you just question everything that you enjoy. It really samps. A lot of the currency is takes. 00:25:37 Speaker 2: The currency is you have to have a take on something horrible and I and it is it is awful because sometimes I just want to sit back and enjoy it. Oh you imagine, No, I can't. I honestly, I can't remember the last time I truly just enjoyed something without having this like running commentary in my head of Like okay, but like what's your takeaway, Like what's going to be your angle on the Mulan movie? Okay, Like you need to like, okay, people are going to be talking about Mulan now, and so you need to get in there with a with a good Mulan take. And it's got to be one that's not that's like a little out of left field, and it's got to be within a brand. You know, all of these things. It's a it's it's hell. It's hell. 00:26:14 Speaker 3: It's absolutely torture. I mean, the last time I just purely enjoyed something was probably high school. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: And what was it, I don't know. 00:26:23 Speaker 3: It was probably Strangers with Candy. 00:26:26 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good one. But even that is like cool. See you you were enjoying cool things first stuff. I mean, God, bless my two older brothers. They have not good taste. The bad taste. 00:26:40 Speaker 3: My family was a home improvement family. I don't know how the. 00:26:43 Speaker 2: Same for me? Oh you really? Yeah? And you know, I'm really good friends with her son in real life. Wait with whose son? Pat Patricia? Yeah? Patty Patty. Yeah, her son is a gay internet comedian who's very funny. Actually, Joe castle Baker is his name? Wait, Joe is is Uh he would kill me right now, but he I mean he's not. Assume he's not. No, no, no, no, he's not. He wouldn't actually, but like, it's it's it's it's no, it's knowledge. I find him. He's one of the funniest. If you're if you're listening to this and you're not familiar with Joe castle Baker, look up his Instagram or his Twitter. He is one of the funniest people who's putting out front facing videos right now. 00:27:34 Speaker 3: The acting duets he does are some of the most insane things amazing. 00:27:40 Speaker 2: And now I think that is another reason I'm going crazy right now, is because I have not I am not someone who is good at character work or front facing video comedy. And it is been and that is their time. Like I regret so often that I made fun of any YouTuber ever because their skill set, they are rising to the to the top, oh very top right now. They're the only ones who can do anything. 00:28:08 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:28:08 Speaker 2: I my friend gifted me with a wig recently and I said, oh no, you know, this is temptation. The temptation is too great. I don't know, like and there was The thing is is I run a blank? Like if I were to even try to imagine what that would look like for me, like what like pov uh? You know? Nope, See I can't even riff. I can't even riff. I can't even come up with something ridiculous. Did you have a premise for a video? Was there like a thought? Did your brainstorm at all? No? You know, because everything I've done, I did you know, the closest I've come to using TikTok is I used the editing capabilities of TikTok to do. I was asked to do a roast. I guess this medical school does a roast of every person who graduates the medical school, and they have comedians come and do them oka and I was one of the comedian. Is asked to roast one very specific guy. And I made a little a very like quick cut video of me roasting this guy using just pictures from his Facebook. And and when you when I'm given a very specific prompt, I can pull something together, but I really need the prompt. And right now the prompt just seems to be like make people forget that the world is on fire. And I can't. It's too broad. It's too broad. 00:29:28 Speaker 3: Even writing a tweet is difficult, it really is. There's so much awful thing. I mean, it's just it's too much for me to handle. 00:29:37 Speaker 2: And then I find myself hating every every anything as soon as it's liked by somebody. Too many times I'm suddenly looking at it and I'm like, well, this is trash, this is trash. Now I'm a fraud. I wrote a tweet about Lacroix recently that blew up, and I said, I've become a person who who's writing tweets about Lacroix. 00:29:59 Speaker 3: Now what Look, you know, everybody, I guess had some opinion on Lacroix. What was your take. 00:30:06 Speaker 2: Well, my take was Lacroix is meant to be sipped once and then abandoned, because that is if you've ever cleaned up after a party where there's the Klroy's around, you know that they're almost always mostly full. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Oh, I think partially because everybody is holding one and then it gets set down at some point and then they all look the same, yes, and so you don't want to dive back into somebody else's Lacroix. 00:30:31 Speaker 2: They have about a half an hour before they become undrinkable too. Oh, I really have to get in there and then drink them before it just all falls apart from the lacroix. 00:30:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you give me a Lacroix. I'm not in a social situation. I'm drinking the whole thing. I'm yeah, tell us, yeah, you know. I'm trying to stay hydrated all times. So if I if I'm given a vessel with a liquid in it, I will finish the liquid. I don't care what it is. My heart has frequently almost stopped due to them out of cold brew. 00:31:01 Speaker 2: That I'll drink. But what are you gonna do? The brew and lacroix. 00:31:05 Speaker 3: I think those are two liquids that you know, everyone has now done a take on, and we've got to get a new liquid. We need a new beverage about you know. 00:31:14 Speaker 2: The new meme now is the generation Z's. The Z's, they're all the zoomers. They're all they've now ascribed cold brew iced coffee as a millennial affect. What are they there? I don't know what they're drinking. They're probably off caffeine because they know that it's bad for them. But they're all like the new Zoomer meme is like, oh, this is what a millennial looks like before they've had their iced coffee, or what a millennial sounds like talking about iced coffee or something like that. And I'm now suddenly realizing that like they have grown sentient, Like they've become sentient. The generation below us has finally become sentient enough to like just or deride us. And it is, but it's very scary. 00:32:01 Speaker 3: In our defense, I feel like the Generation Z is weirdly embracing the Office, which I think is such a deeply uncool thing. So all of you can kiss my hans. It is the most when I I was when I wrote on The Other Two, which stars at thirteen year old. We brought the thirteen year old into the writer's room and we were like, what do what? What are thirteen year olds today? 00:32:25 Speaker 2: Like? What are like? What do you watch? And what do you love? And he said, me and my friends cannot stop talking about the Office and Friends and those were the two big shows that they are obsessed with. And we were like, well, we're doomed because you're literally coming in here talking to a group of television writers and to hear that things seem to have stopped around twenty ten. 00:32:47 Speaker 3: Is Die You're horrifying, absolutely horrifying. Friends is another show I never really got into. I did learn really to play the theme song for a piano recital, and then I would occasionally watch episodes and emotion was caught up in the Ross and Rachel of it all, but it didn't actually watch the show that much. 00:33:03 Speaker 2: I was a very big NBC must CTV block kid, like I grew up watching Caroline in the City and Frasier and Friends was included in that. And here's what I'll say about Friends now as i've I have rewatched, I've done like a rewatch once it came to Netflix. I remember because it's very it's very on in the background sort of thing. And I'll say this, it's interesting. You didn't realize they really normalized every single character on that show. If they are in the background and they're not the focal point of the show is reading a book. A lot of them are reading constantly on that show. And it's such an interesting thing because you don't really see that in that If someone's reading on television these days, it's a part of their character, right, Like they're like, you're you're not like and that the thing is is that does ring true of like most like a lot of people I know are not smart, but they are reading, you know. And one of my favorite screenshots that I grabbed of friends is Rachel in the background of a scene reading a gigantic hardcover copy of The fountain Head. And to discover to discover that that Rachel is a libertarian and is was so so gratifying to me, so funny because it was clearly, I mean clearly that's the other thing. No thought is going like, there's not like Joey's reading these types of books and Rachel's reading these like Rachel's reading all you know, like you know, romance novels or something like that. They just grabbed whatever book they could find, and it happened to be The fountain Head. 00:34:46 Speaker 3: This is the stager, you know, like they just books to play in rooms and like, who gives a ship what this actually is? It's just a book. It just needs to be wow, exactly. 00:34:56 Speaker 2: Yeah. So they found a nine ran book and they gave it to Rachel, which God's you know, maybe she was reading it as you know a bit joe I feel like playing a game. Okay, let's do it. 00:35:07 Speaker 3: Do you want to play the game Gift or a Curse or a game called Gift Master. 00:35:10 Speaker 2: I would like to play Gift or a Curse, I think. Okay. 00:35:14 Speaker 3: First of all, I just need a number between one and ten from you. 00:35:17 Speaker 2: Seven. Okay. 00:35:18 Speaker 3: I have to do some calculating in the next minute or so. Promote something, recommend something, diminish something, do whatever you want with this time. You have the mic. 00:35:27 Speaker 2: I'll be right back. Yeah, I'm guess I'm gonna diminish the Mulan movie, which I did just see, and it is a horror. It is a horror of capitalism. It really is a movie that is such a desperate cash grab by Disney, which I guess is like every Disney movie, but it's a movie that is so ruined by the lack of music. It's a terrible trash movie that is for no one. It's certainly not for children. It's not for adults. I don't know who it's for. They've removed all of the interiority of Mulan character by removing the music. It is a movie about a gorgeous woman who gets a blowout and then goes into battle, and that is the and that's what the movie is. It's two hours long and there she never has develops a character. She never develops a personality beyond her blowout and a single tear. Gongle is in it and is amazing. I will say that, but none of the characters make any sense. Gonglee is a witch for no reason, she dies for no reason. And a spoiler alert. I guess if you haven't seen Mulan yet, if you haven't paid thirty dollars, if you haven't paid thirty dollars to see Mulan, which is an Apple screen saver. It is an Apple TV screen saver. It is all taking place, takes place in the desert apparently, which is not something that anybody needed to see. Don't rent move Laan. I am so glad you brought it back to Mulan. 00:36:55 Speaker 3: I haven't seen the movie, but it seems like the most joyless thing that they could have possible. 00:36:58 Speaker 2: Joyless, joyless, it is so it's it's it's sort of outrageous, how I you don't The thing is is like even the most like basic like bad movies from Disney, I find watchable like that. I find most of the remakes watchable, But I will say Mulan is unwatchable in a completely incompetent sort of way, like really difficult. And I think I think that have you seen any of the live. 00:37:25 Speaker 3: Actually I've seen a single one of them. 00:37:27 Speaker 2: Actually, I will say the only one, and this is a controversial take. The only one that improves on the original movie that it's remaking is Beauty and the Beast. And I'll say this not because of the singing. The singing is bad. I will say. There's a lot of things that are worse about it, but I will say this, they add an existential level of body horror to the servants, where not only are do they have until the pedals drop and then they become these objects forever and they lose their humanity. But there's also an element where they're slowly losing their sentience too, Like not only is the urgency that like, oh, if you don't fall in love, then we all stay fucking clocks and candlesticks, but we'll stay clocks and candlesticks without our human sentience as well, which is actually sort of horrific. And there's like one one character, there's a married couple that's a piano and an armoir and there's like a very tragic sort of undercurrent because they haven't seen each other since the curse began. Because he's a piano down in the ballroom and she's an armoire in the in the room, and I have to say, it's really powerful and affecting. 00:38:37 Speaker 3: Wow, maybe I need to give that a shut. Yeah, I've steered clear of all of them. I feel like, do you remember deviant Art? Yeah, I feel like deviant Art has just taken over the world or something. Yeah, just like these new remakes, it's like, what are we talking? Like, what is happening? 00:38:52 Speaker 2: I associate deviant Art with like furry adjacent porn, I guess. 00:38:58 Speaker 3: Like putting our favorite characters in bad positions essentially, And I feel like that's basically what happened. And I think the thing that opened this door was that weird photos shoot or that campaign that Disney did probably in the mid thousands, where they had celebrities dress up as their favorite Disney characters. 00:39:18 Speaker 2: Do you remember this? 00:39:19 Speaker 3: And they had was it some famous photographer I can't remember who was? 00:39:24 Speaker 2: Oh it was Annie, Yes it was, which is also what was happening moment. 00:39:30 Speaker 3: But I think that that was the thing that finally, and then they let Tim Burton get into the als in Wonderland, and away we go. We're just creating garbage after garbage after garbage. Well, and now here we are with that. Not a Disney, not a Disney. 00:39:43 Speaker 2: Gay. I will say that I have a lot of basic interests, but I won't. I blessedly missed that train, right, you. 00:39:52 Speaker 3: Know, I'll enjoy an occasional Well, I can't remember the last time I watched a Disney anything, but you know, like a Disney movie, it does a but well. 00:40:01 Speaker 2: It's all sort of Disney. 00:40:02 Speaker 3: Now. 00:40:02 Speaker 2: They own Marvel, they own Thoughts, they own It's it's that. 00:40:06 Speaker 3: A good way to go. I mean, corporations historically have had our best interests in the yes, so maybe it's great. But yeah, let's be Disney has got to be stopped at some point. I don't know who's breaking them break bring them up, please please let them. I'm so tired of these four hour long movies. Anyway, let's get into gift or a curse. Okay, this is a first. Actually, uh, listeners have now been sending in gift or a curse idea. So one of these is from a listener and it's the first one. This is okay, so basically, and I haven't even explained the rules to you. I'm gonna tell you a thing. You're gonna tell me if it's a gift or a curse and what and there are correct answers, so just be aware of that. Okay, okay, Well, the first thing is from a listener named Catherine, and she sent in gift or a curse, A whole ass watermelon a. 00:40:56 Speaker 2: Curse, an absolute curse. Why because it's an unyielding fruit. I find again, I'm not a domestic person. I wouldn't really know where to begin with the watermelon. And I find water melon the fruit to be the worst fruit. I find it sort of it's mostly water, you know right there, it's mostly water seeds. You're you're dealing with seeds again, which is, you know, the sort of the theme of the episode. And I don't enjoy a seed. I get scared of eating them. I find watermelon to be a good candy flavor, a good dessert flavor, but not a good fruit. And the candy flavor doesn't taste a lick like a real water in any I mean, no, and any fruit that you can't eat I don't. I don't enjoy fruit that that leaves behind too much detris, you know, like I don't like so much rime, so much rind and what are you to do with it? You know, I don't have a compost, so I would say a curse. 00:42:01 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to have to say you are correct. Yes, the whole ass watermelon is absolutely a curse. I mean, I mean everything you just said, I'm fully on the same page as. The One thing I will say about a whole ass watermelon is there's the potential there for someone to carve away all out of it, which I do think is a fun thing to see. I mean, the last one I saw was probably nineteen ninety four. But yeah, I'm picturing that in my mind right now, and that's kind of like a summer jack o' lantern. Yeah. 00:42:33 Speaker 2: I was about to say, why don't we see more hollowing out and carvings of watermelons? I wonder why we're not seeing more of. 00:42:40 Speaker 3: A lost art it feels. But you know, watermelon if even if it's available, I usually it's not my pick. It's no, and I'm not going to make it for myself. What I mean, the work you have to put in for what is essentially no flavor. It's wild to me that this fruit is it received any type of popularity whole ass not. I think it's a curse. 00:43:06 Speaker 2: I had a water there's a water I saw a watermelon savice on a on a menu recently, and I said, I said, what is that? It's just the watermelon with lemon juice on its right? Was there any other ingredient? I'm sure there were radishes of some sort, but it was a vegetarian savich and they used watermelon. Yeah, it's a salad. It's called it's a salad with lemon juice, an undressed salad. 00:43:31 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a savich. If it doesn't have fish in it, I don't know what we're talking about. You've got one out of one. Here's the second one. And now this is an interesting one. Gift or a curse. Mountain time, the mountain Mountain. 00:43:47 Speaker 2: Time, the time zone. I'm gonna say. I'm going to say a curse because here's the thing. I forget that Mountain time zone exists. And there's something about Mountain time zone that I question the validity of. And it's because it makes me think, well, why is it because you're higher up and there needs to be a sort of three D time zone up there. I don't like it. It's so few states, such a sliver of the time zone. There's something so clean about there just being East, Central and Pacific time. There's something so clean about splitting it up into three different time zones. And you forget that Mountain time zone even exists, and then you do, and then something terrible happens. You miss a podcast because of all of your mountain recordings. Yeah, JOm, I'm sorry. No, Mountain Time is an absolute gift, and partially for a reason you pointed out, which is it's kind of a shadow time zone. People forget about it. It's mysterious. We don't know what the rules are, and you know I'm coming from you times. You know I have to step up and defend the time zone. I do not know what rules they're playing by with that thing. It's kind of a mix between Pacific and Central. But it feels I don't think anyone, even an expert, could define what general Mountain time is. It just does feel very much like you got too high and you needed a new SIME zone up there. 00:45:24 Speaker 1: Now. 00:45:25 Speaker 2: Wait, very quick sidebar you're from Utah. Yes, you know that. This year they're premiering a new Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. 00:45:32 Speaker 3: I've heard about this and now listen, I don't know that much about Real Housewives if we recently started watching it, and I've very much enjoyed what I've seen. But this Real house Wives of Salt Lake I will line up to watch whatever this is. 00:45:47 Speaker 2: It's very interesting. I will say, Bridger, you think they're all going to be Mormon. They're not. One is a one. There's two Mormons. One is a Pentecostal, one is a former Mormon terned Muslim. Wow, one is just a former Mormon that left the church. And yeah, and then there's two current Mormons. One of the Mormons is the air or no, no, no, the Pentecostal one is the heir to a bunch of businesses and restaurants and churches. And in order to become in order to get access to the fortune, she was forced to marry her grandmother's second husband, and so she married her grand Her step grandfather had a teenage son with him and was able to inherit the money. So that's what you're sort of getting at with the real Housewives Assault Lake. Wait has it started airing? No, it will not air until after the election because I do believe that. Of course, the Mormons are voting for Trump and they don't want they don't it. What are you doing? Yeah, yeah, I mean, but got to check it out when it's a good one. Dive in fresh, you know, because the housewives are impenetrable, because there's a lot of material to soak. 00:46:57 Speaker 3: Up, more than Lord of the Rings at this point. World that's been created by the lore. Yeah, it's wild. Wait, I mean, do I stand any chance of becoming a real housewife of Salt Lake Is Well, I mean. 00:47:11 Speaker 2: I have no, but you could become you could become a Selling Sunset real estate agent. That's very true. We started watching that as well. I mean, just the world of terrible people it goes on. It really is. But you know what I'll say about Selling Sunset. It is the only show that is about the thirty eight year old experience. There's not a lot of shows that star thirty eight year olds, and and I'm glad to have it. 00:47:34 Speaker 3: Bringing some visibility to the mid thirties, I think mid to late thirties. I suppose. Wow, Real Housewives of Salt Lake. I didn't realize it was so close and that there were any details. I'm thrilled out of my mind. 00:47:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just released the trailer today, so you're not today. Yeah. 00:47:48 Speaker 3: Dune and Real Housewives aday. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Two epic franchises. 00:47:56 Speaker 3: Wow, what an update for everyone here. Okay, okay, Soper on one out of two. You've got a final thing here to tell me, gift or a curse? Soup. 00:48:09 Speaker 2: This is tough. This is tough because I'm not a soup man myself, but I'm playing. I'm a game player, you know, and so I know this. I'm glad that there's a right answer here because otherwise, you know, it would make it easy. I'm gonna say a curse. I'm going to say a curse because if I wanted a drink, I would have a drink. But I want food, you know, and soup is messy and there's no pleasant way to eat soup. There's with a spoon, a spoon, our worst utensil, our worst least versatile utensil out there, and there's just this the aural sounds slurping, just slurping and clanging. I just think of clanging a spoon against a bowl as you try and get it, the uncouthness of sort of tipping the bowl, getting the last drop of soup dripping all over your clothes. I'm going to have to say, unequivocally, a. 00:49:11 Speaker 3: Curse, Jeel. I think that you. I think you've just made history here where I did have an answer to this, there was. I was going to say, soup is an absolute gift. But I think you've just made such so many salient a compelling case. Yes, yeah, that I'm going to have to I'm changing my answer. I don't believe it. 00:49:33 Speaker 2: I think soup is a curse. 00:49:36 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I enjoy a good soup, but how often do you have a good soup? 00:49:41 Speaker 2: Rarely? 00:49:42 Speaker 3: It's also a very weather specific food. Yeah, you know, if it's a thousand degrees outside, how often do you want to dive into a bowl of hot soup? 00:49:50 Speaker 2: Or are the cold soup a vishy swa. 00:49:52 Speaker 3: Come on, I'm not eating a cold soup ever. 00:49:54 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no. I mean. 00:49:58 Speaker 3: When do I choose a old soup? I guess if it's forced on me, I'll have it. But no, there's always going to be another item I'd rather have than cold soup. 00:50:06 Speaker 2: So and you push it, you push, you push. I either you push a soup in one direction and it's a drink, it's a smoothie. You push the soup in the other direction, and it could be a stew or a full meal, you know, and it's just pick a lane, I say to soup, pick a lane. 00:50:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have a very hard time. Let's say I'm trying to think of soups. I really enjoy I enjoy a fu, I enjoy a but then you get into things where it's like almost or you like, have a curry or you'll have you know, it's stew. Uh, soup is a curse. You you come up a curse two out of three here, just by your own I'm proud of that. 00:50:44 Speaker 2: Are happy with that. I'm proud of you. 00:50:47 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, now that you've kind of done an okay job at the game, we're going to answer a couple of listener emails. This is called I said no questions. People write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. The desperate for answers. They need answers to like what they need to get people in their lives. 00:51:04 Speaker 2: I love this thing. 00:51:05 Speaker 3: Let me read the first one it says dear Bridger. 00:51:08 Speaker 2: They didn't. 00:51:08 Speaker 3: Usually they'll say dear Bridger and guests or this sort of thing, but they I guess we're just kind of I didn't see. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: You in your night. Well maybe I won't answer. 00:51:16 Speaker 3: And old from an old friend from high school wants to meet me for lunch after losing touch with each other. It's been thirty seven years since we've spoken, and we recently found each other on Facebook. I'd like to give him a gift, but I feel a simple greeting card is not enough. Any suggestion would be appreciated. We were both marching bad band nerds theater geeks in high school. It would be great to rekindle this friendship. That's from Simon. He's in California. Simon, this is a deeply strange situation you found yourself in, Joe. What's your initial feeling. Thirty seven years go by, Suddenly we're having lunch. 00:51:53 Speaker 2: Suddenly you're having lunch and listen. I think a lunch is not an unsafe activity to have. But as some who's sort of shrunk my own social circle down considerably because of just the logistics of seeing other people, I find it very odd to take the time to go out and do the theater of getting tested and all of that and eating on a sidewalk for someone you haven't seen in thirty seven years. I'll say that, but I think it's you know, I don't know their situation. Though, maybe he's lonely. I think maybe, you know, it could be a nice rekindling. I can't tell if there's sexual chemistry. 00:52:35 Speaker 3: There, right, I mean, thirty seven years, there's finding each other on Facebook. Actually it could go either way. Maybe there's some really hot pictures they've each got on Facebook and there is some sexual chemistry. Maybe there was some high school chemistry that they're looking to rekindle. Maybe they were dear friends. But ultimately, what do you if I was meeting somebody after decades, what gift? Would I take them? 00:52:59 Speaker 2: A lunch? I know what I would say. 00:53:02 Speaker 3: I would just buy lunch. I would just say it's on me. That to me, it feels like because if after thirty seven years, you show up with a wrapped gift, suddenly I feel like you're coming on a little strong. Yeah, you could scare them away. 00:53:18 Speaker 2: I think though, if they're the one who reached out, I think that the ball. I think a gift could be appropriate, and I think a nice little nostalgic gift could be nice, like get them, I would get them like a copy of the play that you were in together in high school. So sweet now that I think would that's that's thoughtful and it's not too intense. I think that is something that's that's definitely a workable gift that won't seem crazy, that seems very casual, and it doesn't beg a gift in return either, Yeah, because not like itels like it's not too extravagant to match it. So it's like, yeah, it doesn't feel expensive or you know, it's not a Michael Scott bobblehead this sort of thing. I think that that's good. 00:54:00 Speaker 3: Or you know, maybe you quietly sing, you know, the song from West Side Story that you did onto a tape. 00:54:07 Speaker 2: You give that to them and then it's kind of. 00:54:09 Speaker 3: An eerie thing. They can take home and be haunted. You never see them again, and that's a real you know, let's say thirty seven you were in high school. This person's around fifty. I guess they get to live another fifty years with Why did Simon record that song a cappella to a cassette tape, and that's something you can leave that person with. 00:54:31 Speaker 2: And I mean a definite curse because now this person has to track down a cassette player to play your cassette tape. 00:54:38 Speaker 3: But then that requires a lot of the cassette player industry and it's like world changing for all of us. Probably not going to happen, well, Joel, my podcast was my suggestions, Simon, get the play, get by lunch, maybe do it all. Go show up to this thing so strong that the old friend can't be you know, they are forced to become a new friend. There's no telling what's going to happen. Moving on, dear Bridger and guest, Joel, you're definitely thank you here. My niece is going to be born in a few months. She'll be my first niece and I'm excited to meet her. Once she's old enough. I want to start some sort of birthday gift tradition with her. I'd love to hear your ideas or thoughts. And that's from Jennifer, and who knows where Jennifer is about to have a baby niece. Do you have any nieces or nephews? 00:55:28 Speaker 2: I do. I have a niece and a nephew, and then my best friend who is like a sister to me. Okay, just literally last week had a baby girl. 00:55:40 Speaker 3: So congratulations. Yeah, yeah, do you give them gifts? 00:55:45 Speaker 2: I do. I give them bomb ass gifts because I don't live near my real my nephew and my niece, and so I need they're starting to hit the age where they'll remember me because I'm getting them incredible gifts, right, and that is sort of you know, that important someone exactly exactly. They're not going to remember me by any other means of course. So what you gotta starting a lot of Legos? And I think that is a really fun gift. And I think Legos have crossed over into unisex territory for. 00:56:17 Speaker 3: I think pretty progressive to me. 00:56:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, you know, a new Lego set starting with the age appropriate ones for babies and moving on up, starting a left, because that's what we need is we need more women in architecture. Oh please, Okay, let's get more women in stem, more women in architecture, more women in building. Okay. So I think a nice little Lego set every year is a great foundation for that. 00:56:41 Speaker 3: Right, every year, it'll become a little bit more complex. This niece is going to be building things, building things, building things. Suddenly they're twenty six, they're constructing a building in Dubai. Well, actually that's hope to buy maybe somewhere with a little more of a moral center. But I think that's not a bad idea because they've got them for all ages. As far as I know. This is coming from someone who doesn't know, but that's fine. Get some legos for the niece. 00:57:08 Speaker 2: I think I got the big ones that you can't swallow now for babies, and then slowly you get you slowly you build her into the smaller and smaller ones. And that's what I say. 00:57:19 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then maybe at some point that becomes a college fund taking her to architecture school. I think that. I mean, I don't even have anything else to say. I've got two nieces. I just you know, get online and send them things that I think are fun or you know, books. I think books are always a valuable Yeah, books are good, but kid, but I think that that's terrific. Joel just came right out of the gate with a thoughtful, useful gift that will lead this child towards a career, whether they like it. 00:57:49 Speaker 1: Or not. 00:57:50 Speaker 2: People really shit on me for saying this, But my love language is gifts and people are always like who says their love languages gifts. But I'm an excellent gift giver or I really love to give gifts who and giving gifts like siblings sometimes. I mean, I'll get I get people gifts at all the normal occasions birthdays and Christmas, et cetera. But I really do. I am a big fan of If I'm out and I see something that I know would be meaningful, and I to the person that I'm buying a like to a certain friend, I will buy a gift out of the blue for that person, wonder because I think, you know, you never know when you're gonna see a top with someone, like a vintage T shirt with someone's favorite, you know, with a vintage Taylor Dane for the person in your life who loves Taylor Dane. You know, it's just like things like that, like you really, I do think is a special way. Getting gifts is not my love language giving is. 00:58:49 Speaker 1: Sure? 00:58:49 Speaker 3: Are you uncomfortable with getting gifts? 00:58:52 Speaker 2: I just I am at a point in my life where I have everything I need right and I don't like I live a very minimum life, and I don't like having a lot of things. In fact, I felt a little guilt. The thought of your podcast really stresses me up because you must have accumulated so much shit oh over. 00:59:10 Speaker 3: The course of this podcast, you know, I was like, Oh, this was the one thing I can tell people who are planning to move in the future is not to start a podcast where you get gifts, because you will be moving a lot of objects that you had never planned on owning before and finding a new place for them to live. 00:59:26 Speaker 2: So and I don't like throwing things out like that. It just it feels so nasty, and so yeah, I just I would prefer not. I feel like I'm gonna. 00:59:34 Speaker 3: At some point I'm going to have to have some sort of charity yard sale or something. I because it's it's becoming a mountain of items that are God bless everyone who's giving them to me. 00:59:45 Speaker 2: Uh, just giving you a Michael Scott Bob. 00:59:48 Speaker 3: I mean this one aside, which will be the first thing a visitor season my home. You know, I'll pose with it in photos. It's gonna it's more of a member of my family. Everything else I'm just gonna burn. Michael got Michael Scott, Michael spot interesting. That's another person, Michael Scott. Bobblehead is an absolute cherished. It's an instant heirloom. Let's just call it an instant heirloom. Joel, did we just yeah, we answered that question. The podcast is over. I mean, whoa, it's been such a wonderful time happening. It was just a kind of a bumpy road to get here. But you know, worth every moment, though, worth every moment, worth everything, And it's just a thrill to see you over a camera. Hopefully at some point in the next one month to fifty years, I'll be able to see you in person. 01:00:42 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for doing the lower range too, because I don't have time for these people who are like you know it's gonna last three years. I don't have time for that for anyone. No, OK, you to tell me that. 01:00:55 Speaker 3: I mean, even if it's true, I don't, I know, I don't need someone's saying that it's hopeless. 01:01:00 Speaker 2: No, I'm getting one of the shitty vaccines. I'm getting one of the shitty ones that comes out in November. I'll take it. 01:01:06 Speaker 3: I'll drink it. 01:01:07 Speaker 2: I have. I have signed up for every single vaccine trial that I can find access to, I'll do it. I'll take one for the team. 01:01:13 Speaker 3: Have you been denied or is it just like a waiting game. 01:01:16 Speaker 2: I think it's a waiting game. I think they've probably they're probably full up on young people. I think they really need like older people to take the risk. 01:01:25 Speaker 3: And that's more of a roll of the dice. But well, I'm glad that you're out there trying to get this backs. 01:01:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get it by any means necessary. I'm going to get that vaccine. 01:01:37 Speaker 3: Anything that leads me to recording a podcast in a studio, the first studio will just be me weeping for a full hour, just sobbing, and then we'll turn it off and then we can record the next episode, because I am I'm ready to not be in my home doing. 01:01:54 Speaker 2: Work, anything anything. 01:01:57 Speaker 3: Well, bless you, oh my love, thank you for being on the podcast, and everybody, thank you for having me listening. Move on with your life, do your thing, go enjoy something, or go to bed, or go to work or you know this is it's difficult to end up podcasting. I always have a hard time. But I'm now going to just say one more word, goodbye. I said no gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter at I Said No Gifts, and if you have a question or need help getting a gift for someone in your life, email me at I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're at it? 01:02:48 Speaker 1: Hello? Man? Did you hear fun? 01:02:52 Speaker 3: A man? 01:02:53 Speaker 2: Myself? 01:02:53 Speaker 1: Perfectly clear? But here I guess, Tom, you gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guest, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?