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Speaker 1: let's go Monday. Monday was a day. Monday was a day.

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Speaker 1: It's been a few weeks. It's been a season so far.

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Speaker 1: We're nine games in for the Indianapolis Colts. More changes

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Speaker 1: the Colts Radio studio, Lara Overton, JJ Stangovitz, Guys, welcome

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Speaker 1: Everything that you guys just said, I could not echo more.

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Speaker 1: year period, the Colts finished eighth in scoring in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League with essentially five different quarterbacks. So he

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Speaker 1: made it. He made it work as other head coaches

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Speaker 1: and play callers and offensive coordinators would have been fired

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Speaker 1: long before frank Reich was let go, and he made

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Speaker 1: it look so again I used the word viable. He

436
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Speaker 1: made it look so viable, convincing. Yes, mean he had

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Speaker 1: coaches on his staff get pluck for head coaching job. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Two coordinators and not only

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Speaker 1: a quarterback changes. Let's look at the pillars of this

440
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Speaker 1: team who you have lost in recent years. Anthony Costanzo,

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Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, t Y Hilton. Think about when Marlon Mack

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Speaker 1: went down, Jonathan Taylor. No one thought that JT was

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Speaker 1: gonna be thrust in the situation he was as a

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Speaker 1: rookie so many And that's just the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. Don't even talk about rebuilding the defense as

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Speaker 1: as you have. My point is I really don't think

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Speaker 1: I think again, I'm only speaking for myself when I

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Speaker 1: think about frank Reich's time in Indianapolis. He was dealt

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Speaker 1: a really crappy hand, but he made it work. Right,

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Speaker 1: He's still got he got tricks. If you're playing Yuker, right,

451
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Speaker 1: he was still able to kind of throw throw his

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Speaker 1: nine and get a trick and trump somebody because that's

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Speaker 1: who he was. He was. He was always gonna feel

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Speaker 1: as if the players that he had were the best

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Speaker 1: players in the NFL, he was gonna scheme them up.

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Speaker 1: And I just on a personal level, feel like there's

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Speaker 1: a big giant asterisk over Frank Reich's time because of

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Speaker 1: all the crap that he had to deal with in

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Speaker 1: terms of you know, personnel and quarterbacks and strategy. See it.

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Speaker 1: He can see how much it wore on him. Because

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Speaker 1: I was having this conversation with my husband last night

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Speaker 1: as we kind of wrap up our conversation on Frank.

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Speaker 1: Frank's departure I think hurts him not so much because

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Speaker 1: of any perceived lack of success, as you well illustrated, mate,

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Speaker 1: or Frank's ego about being let go. What hurts Frank

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Speaker 1: the most is that he feels like he didn't deliver

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Speaker 1: to those guys in that locker room, the fifty three

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Speaker 1: guys plus the practice squad guys, plus his coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: That's what will hurt him, is that he feels like

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Speaker 1: he let those guys out. I just hope Frank is

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Speaker 1: sitting in some quiet room and just sitting and watching

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Speaker 1: the dig I'd have to bet that. I'd have to

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Speaker 1: bet he's junior one better and he's bouncing a couple

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Speaker 1: of his grandkids right now and hanging out and surrounded

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Speaker 1: by surrounded by his incredible family. That's where I would

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Speaker 1: have to estimate that he is right now. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the again. We talked about the first

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Speaker 1: side of the coin. The other side of the coin

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Speaker 1: is the Jef Saturday, part six time pro bowler. We

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Speaker 1: all know about his his playing resume. Coach at the

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Speaker 1: high school level at Hebron Christian in Dakola, Georgia for

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Speaker 1: three seasons, Ring of Honor Player, all the Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 1: all of those things like that. He's been on TV.

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Speaker 1: He's done a wonderful job. He's well spoken, he's articulate,

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Speaker 1: the football IQ, all of that, it's on full display.

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Speaker 1: That's why he's here, Lara, When again, I just go

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Speaker 1: back to the email. When you get that email or

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Speaker 1: the breaking news alert on your phone on Twitter, however

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Speaker 1: you saw it, the shock factor for you. I'm tired

490
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Speaker 1: of Adam Schefter telling me what's going on? You know,

491
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Speaker 1: like that guy needs to just pipe down. He was

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Speaker 1: breaking news alert. Well we all missed the Cousins. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we all missed the last night because you're at the

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Speaker 1: press coffins. But apparently he took a shirt off at

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Speaker 1: the Superdome to him and take Kirk Cousins. I don't

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Speaker 1: know neither here nor that. Did you see the flight

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Speaker 1: home for Kirk Cousins where he's wearing all the chains

498
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Speaker 1: and everything after they beat Washington, That's what Adam Schefter did. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Jeff Saturday admits he was shocked. Yes, I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of going through the rolodecks of Okay,

501
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Speaker 1: who's in the building. Is it Bubba Ventrone? You know?

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Speaker 1: Who can you elevate? You've got two former head coaches here,

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Speaker 1: Like I just immediately thought internally, which I think that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the de facto a lot of people assume.

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Speaker 1: But you know the first thing I did when I

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Speaker 1: saw it maytay to your point about his coaching experience.

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Speaker 1: I went back and pulled up Colts Forever, because do

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Speaker 1: you know what we did in twenty nineteen October of

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, myself, Matt Wilkeining Kevin Conners flew down to Tequla, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and we spent three days with jeff Saturday in this

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Speaker 1: high school team doing an interview. So plug shameless plug

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Speaker 1: there for Colts forever on Colts dot Com, Colts YouTube,

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Speaker 1: all of your Colts streaming platforms. But we had a

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Speaker 1: lot of time with Jeff. I mean, it's it is

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Speaker 1: it's a small Christian school. His son Jeffrey was not

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Speaker 1: on the team at the time. Jeffrey had already graduated.

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Speaker 1: He's now at North Carolina. And then Joshua, who's the

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Speaker 1: youngest of the three, had to get to high school.

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Speaker 1: He was still in middle school at the time. So

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Speaker 1: jeff was there coaching, and you saw a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, again, it's high school, but it's still you

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Speaker 1: see the characteristics, you see the traits, You see the

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Speaker 1: things that are embedded and ingrained in his football DNA

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Speaker 1: from Tony Dungee, from Jim Caldwell, from the guys who

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Speaker 1: he spent time with. So you saw what made him

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Speaker 1: an enticing person and to have within an organization, and

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Speaker 1: you know, these conversations about having Jeff involved and in

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Speaker 1: what capacity you would be have been ongoing. Clearly from

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Speaker 1: what Jeff has been assessing by watching film, watching the team,

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Speaker 1: observing as a consultant from AFAR, he has some answers

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Speaker 1: that you think are going to get this in a

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Speaker 1: direction of some sort. One of the questions that was

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Speaker 1: asked this was a really great question by by Chris Hagen,

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Speaker 1: is uh, you know, Jeff, you've been an analyst, if

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Speaker 1: you were if you were sitting in the analyst chair

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Speaker 1: right now breaking down this decision and this higher and yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: what would you say about it? And Jeff said he

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Speaker 1: admitted that he had to ask mister Ersay, why am

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Speaker 1: I the candidate? Why am I the guy? There's something

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Speaker 1: there that and this isn't just I think it's important

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Speaker 1: to note that this wasn't just something that was an

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Speaker 1: overnight decision. You know. Of course there was a conversation,

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Speaker 1: as mister Chris Ballard said, a spirited conversation between himself

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Speaker 1: and mister Ersay. But the move to figure out what

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Speaker 1: Jeff can do with what you have, I think goes

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Speaker 1: back to when he was here in training camp assessing,

547
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Speaker 1: you know, what was going on, working with guys. He

548
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: was really hands on, especially with the offensive line. So

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Speaker 1: there's intrigue there. Yes, it's shock and I have a

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Speaker 1: ton of respect for Jeff Saturday. I mean it's kind

551
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Speaker 1: of funny. I think back you guys, two weeks ago

552
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Speaker 1: for the Ring of Honor game, we were upstairs setting

553
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Speaker 1: up in tart Glenn's Sweet to do an interview with Tarik.

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Speaker 1: Jeff was a sweet over and I was kind of

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Speaker 1: running around and I pop in hugged Jeff just kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, talk back and forth for a little bit,

557
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Speaker 1: just catching up on things, talking football, talking the team,

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Speaker 1: all of that, because you know, he's kind of asking

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Speaker 1: me from being here different things. Never, never did I

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Speaker 1: think that. Then two weeks later he was gonna be

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Speaker 1: introduced as a head coach. But I am grateful that

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Speaker 1: it's someone that we have a rapport with. You know

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Speaker 1: that we are able to hopefully continue what we have

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Speaker 1: built so far. But yeah, going back and watching the

565
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: cults life and different things, but you know, there has

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Speaker 1: been a tendency to go back to recapturing what you

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Speaker 1: had of that era. That's why Kato June is here,

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Speaker 1: That's why Reggie Wayne is here. That's why You've brought

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Speaker 1: in some of those guys because there was something that

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Speaker 1: worked within that time and these guys have some perspective

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Speaker 1: and some insight on what you can do or what

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Speaker 1: it will take to put this organization on a path

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Speaker 1: moving forward that you have the foundation to make yourself

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Speaker 1: a contender once again. And Jeff is the latest piece

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Speaker 1: to that. And he obviously, I mean, as I said,

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Speaker 1: he's been sought after for a lot of things. I

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Speaker 1: would imagine this is not the only job that Jeff

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Speaker 1: Saturday has been offered within an NFL organization, But jj,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like it was going to be Jeff Saturday

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Speaker 1: or bust, Like if Jeff Saturday was not available again,

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Speaker 1: I think Frank Reich is still here despite the new

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Speaker 1: England game and you know the over fourteen on third

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Speaker 1: down and only the hundred in twenty one yards of

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Speaker 1: offense and the least amount of offense since nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: seven and all that, right, Why are the Colts making

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Speaker 1: this move over coaches on the staff who have head

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Speaker 1: coaching experience. I mean, if you add it up, if

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Speaker 1: you look at the math, Gus Bradley and John Fox,

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Speaker 1: who have been head coaches in the NFL. Those guys

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Speaker 1: have over seventy years of coaching experience in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: whereas Jeff Saturday has seventy minutes right now on his resume.

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Speaker 1: Why was it Jeff Saturday or nobody else in this chair?

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Speaker 1: Jim Versay was asked that question, and he said, he's

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Speaker 1: the best man for the job. There's no question about

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Speaker 1: it in my mind. You know. He mentioned the last

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Speaker 1: time he brought in an interim head coach or named

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Speaker 1: an interim head coach was Bruce Arians who had quite

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Speaker 1: a bit of success. But then getting into why why

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Speaker 1: he picked Jeff Saturday, here's what Ursa said. Quote, He's

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Speaker 1: extremely tough and he's a leader. When you're looking for

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Speaker 1: head coaches, leaderships the number one thing. That's the number

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Speaker 1: one thing. They're also that also has a toughness level.

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Speaker 1: They're highly intelligent. That's very important. You have to be

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Speaker 1: a great thinker. You have to be able to work

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Speaker 1: with people. You have to be open minded. You have

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Speaker 1: to create a culture where people trust you. You have

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00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: to know the game. You have to have experience. You

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Speaker 1: have to be able to draw upon experience in your

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Speaker 1: life to come forward and do what a head coach

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Speaker 1: does in this league. I think hearing that part of it,

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Speaker 1: and then hearing Jeff Saturday talk about his love of

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Speaker 1: leadership and leading a group of men and how football

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Speaker 1: just kind of fits in with that for him, and

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Speaker 1: that's been sort of a natural progression for him now

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Speaker 1: in his life. You look at that, and you look

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Speaker 1: around the league and you see some teams that if

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Speaker 1: you took the Tennessee Titans and he said, what's Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel's scheme, you can't say, oh, yeah, he runs a

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Speaker 1: you know, even front and they run a you know,

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Speaker 1: zone running attack. All said, I you know, downhill running right,

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Speaker 1: you might be able to you know, but that's not Mike.

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Speaker 1: That's not what you think of when you think of

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel. You think of that dude is a leader.

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Speaker 1: That dude gets the most out of his players through leadership, accountability,

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Speaker 1: and execution, which all kind of ties in together. If

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Speaker 1: you are looking at who the Colts could have in

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Speaker 1: a interim head coach right now, in Jeff Saturday, I

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Speaker 1: think you might look at the guy four hours down

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Speaker 1: the road in Tennessee at Mike Vrabel, where you interviewed

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Speaker 1: a guy who absolutely candidate he was and Mike Rabel

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Speaker 1: has hired a lot of very good coaches. He knows

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Speaker 1: he's not the smartest man in the room. Something Jeff

633
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Speaker 1: Saturday said that he wants to empower his coaches and

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Speaker 1: empower his players to be the best versions of themselves.

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Speaker 1: Right now, this team, the players have not been the

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Speaker 1: best versions of themselves this year. We are seeing guys

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Speaker 1: who have played at a very high level in previously

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Speaker 1: years not play at that level this year. Can Jeff

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Speaker 1: Saturday be the one to get that out of those

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Speaker 1: guys to get them back to that level. Can Jeff

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Speaker 1: Saturday be the one to not come in and say

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Speaker 1: this is how we're running our offense, but say here's

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Speaker 1: how we can best execute the offense that fits our

644
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: players the best. Can he do those things? I think

645
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: we're going to find out in the next eight weeks.

646
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to find out because the of of

647
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: everything that I say talked about and everything that Jeff

648
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: Saturday talked about about his leadership quality. And you know,

649
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: Jeff said he's he's maybe a little more spirited than most.

650
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: But maybe that's what this team needs right now. Maybe

651
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: they need that spirited guy who is going to have

652
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: He's going to have their back at all costs. And

653
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: you know what I think about I've been thinking a

654
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: lot about just how you know, maybe they're some parallels

655
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: here with Mike Vrabel. You remember that moment after the

656
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: Colts lost to the Titans where it kind of went

657
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: viral around football Twitter where it was Ben Jones, their center.

658
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: He played through a really tough injury in that game,

659
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: and there's that shot of Mike Vrabel waiting in the

660
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: tunnel like almost to tears and given him the biggest

661
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: bear hug. And you see that and you're just like,

662
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee may not have the most talent, but damn those

663
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: players want to play for Mike Vrabel. And I think

664
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: the best case outcome for the Colts is that by

665
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: the end of this this year, you're gonna be like, man,

666
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: these players just really want to play for Jeff Saturday,

667
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: and that's getting the most out of them. That can happen.

668
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: That absolutely can happen again. Jeff has got to earn it.

669
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: He knows that, but that could be an outcome of

670
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: this that by the end of the year you're like, man,

671
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: he's got these guys playing for him and wanting to

672
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: win and put it all on the line for him,

673
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: that right there is probably your best case outcome for

674
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: this season for Jeff Saturday. If he does that, he's

675
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: absolutely going to earn an opportunity to interview for the

676
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: head coaching job after this season. Jedge, I think you

677
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: bring up something interesting, and Larry I've I've heard coaches

678
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: talk about this, players over the years talk about this.

679
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: I've heard Larry Bird talk about this. I'm interested and

680
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm just making conversation right here because i don't know

681
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: if we definitively have the answer. I think the players

682
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: would have to weigh in on that. You'd have to

683
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: maybe pull the lock room. But did did Frank Reich's

684
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: message or did his approach did it wear off? Because

685
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: We've all been in locker rooms. I mean I've been

686
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: in locker rooms. You hear all the time about how

687
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: a coach's message sometimes wears off and players get immune

688
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: to the style of coaching, and you know, the motivational

689
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: tactics and the message just sometimes gets lost. And we know,

690
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: we all know Frank he wasn't a guy that was

691
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: going to go in the locker room and he raised

692
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: his voice and curse people out and flip over tables

693
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: and rip equipment out of the locker room. Did that

694
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: happen here? I don't know. I mean, I'm just bringing

695
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: it up for discussion session. You know, Frank Reich had

696
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: been here since twenty eighteen, and JJ talked about you know,

697
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel. There's certain guys that just sort of galvanize

698
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: the locker room. Frank certainly did that early, but I

699
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: don't know just did it. Did it sort of just

700
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: fade over time. I know the point you're making because

701
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: I was covering the Pacers at the time when you're

702
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: talking about that. When they moved on from Frank Vogel

703
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: to Nate McMillan, that was a period of time where

704
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: Larry Bird just felt like there was like a five

705
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: year window than a coach has and then he kind

706
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: of loses. And which is an interesting point because you know,

707
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: you you look at like Popovich, it's like, I think

708
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: he lasted a little bit longer. You know, you look

709
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: down in Miami, they've they've had some sustained success, you know,

710
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: you've had some those messes exactly. Well, No, I don't

711
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: think that. I don't get that sense, because I've talked

712
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: to a few guys, talked to a few veteran guys

713
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: and who came here because of Frank. Frank was the

714
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,479
Speaker 1: selling point for them to be here. And I look

715
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: at one thing that I spent some time evaluating in

716
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours or so, when Coachrit came

717
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: in and eighteen. He had a very mature locker room

718
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: that you didn't have to helicopter or micromanage or do

719
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: a lot with. There were a lot of guys who

720
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: were There was a lot of leadership in the locker room,

721
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of accountability in the locker room, Yes, Mitchell,

722
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Costanzo, I mean just a ton of just across

723
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: the board and eight I'm gonna put you know in

724
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: DeForest part of that too. When he came in, I

725
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: think as a huge factor. So you had a lot

726
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: of that because you had so many veteran guys already

727
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: in place with what Frank inherited, and that worked really

728
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: well with Frank's style because Frank is one who trusts

729
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: his guys. That's that's how he is. He does He

730
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: thinks as professionals, you shouldn't have to do those types

731
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: of things. You should not have to do that you

732
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: should be intrinsically motivated and all of those type of things.

733
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: I do think that in the last two years you

734
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: got a lot younger and a lot less experienced in

735
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: this locker room. And I do think that perhaps there

736
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: isn't the same level of maturity and internal accountability and

737
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of tough love that you have that

738
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: you need within those fifty three men. I think as

739
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: part of what it is, I don't necessarily think he

740
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: lost the locker room. I'm not gonna I wouldn't. Only

741
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: the players can answer that. I just bring it up

742
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: for discussion, but I do. But I do think that

743
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: it is more so a turnover within your locker room

744
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: and how much younger you have gotten and all that

745
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: you've endured. And I think that there were so many

746
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: questions and so many things to manage on Frank's plate

747
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: that became more than he could address each in every week. Well.

748
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: And the other thing I think is a factor is

749
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: and you see this in sports a lot, no matter

750
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: what the sport is, where when a head coach has

751
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: been a head coach or a manager or whatever it

752
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: is for a certain number of years, sometimes you just

753
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: need to make a change, not for the sake of

754
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: making a change, but you just need a different message

755
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: to the team. You see it a lot where inertia

756
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of sets in and it doesn't matter. You know,

757
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: Frank is a great coach who has done a good

758
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: job leading this team again through some very difficult periods.

759
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's just time. And that's kind of what

760
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: Ursay said. Sometimes it's it's just time. And I think

761
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: that is a very real thing that sometimes happens in

762
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: sports where it's rare to see coaches last five, eight,

763
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: ten years. That is, you know, the Pete Carrolls and

764
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: the Bill Belichicks of the world are the exceptions, not

765
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: the rule. Yeah, no doubt about that. I've got some

766
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: other stuff on the rundown, but I think we've covered

767
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: it all. I think we've run the gamut today. Guys,

768
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: um twittermail bag, JJ, we're gonna buy can handle that? Look?

769
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: I mean, were the only questions if you were gonna get.

770
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna be about the stuff we just talked about

771
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: for forty five minutes. So we'll get. We'll get the

772
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: twittermail bag battable next week, no question about it. All right.

773
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: We do have one random thought of the week, as

774
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: I said, I had a lot of thoughts this week,

775
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: but one random one. Um, because my neighbor yesterday, I

776
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: don't know if you should still be doing this. I

777
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: think he was doing it maybe under the table or illegally. Wow,

778
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: he was burning he was burning leaves. I don't know

779
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: if I think that's frowned. How does one leaves under

780
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: the table. It's pretty obvious that I mean. I just mean, like,

781
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you should be doing I'm pretty

782
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: sure that's against the law, but I don't know that

783
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: for sure. I thought it was. See, I thought it

784
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: was because of obviously the the danger of it. But anyways,

785
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: a couple of houses down down the road, Um, guy

786
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: was burning leaves. It got me big old flame too,

787
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: like big old flame because he had a lot of trees.

788
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: So it got me thinking, Lara, your house is on fire. Oh,

789
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: your house is on fire. Your family's safe, Okay, everybody's

790
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: accounted for. Tugboat's good, Tucker's good. Yeah, but you have

791
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: two minutes. It's gonna be safe for two minutes for

792
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: you to go inside and retrieve some items. What are

793
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: you going for it bad? I want to say my shoes,

794
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: which I mean, I'll start tossing, just chucking about in

795
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: the front window, Tucker, catch, don't drop the one. Shoes.

796
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Uh No, probably like a lot of family photos you

797
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: know that I have. Uh, that would be something for

798
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: sure if I weren't. I mean, I would assume I'm

799
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: probably already wear like my wedding band in my engagement ring.

800
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: Like I'm assuming I probably already have those on. But

801
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I do have like a there are a couple of

802
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: pieces of like you know, um family jewelry type of

803
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: things that I would probably try to stash. Um what

804
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: else am I thinking right now? Yeah? But uh yeah,

805
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean I am. Wow, I'm really superficial. If the

806
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: first thought was shoes, and the Jordan Ones and the

807
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: Airmaxes have got to be priority. Oh oh, I know

808
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: one thing. Yeah, Dan made me a box when he

809
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: proposed it's a car. He made a wooden box that

810
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: my engagement ring was in. I would have to grab

811
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: the box. That is one thing, because that would go

812
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: that's irreplace there you go. Yeah, I would probably go

813
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: grab as much of my kids stuff as possible, like

814
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: my stuff whatever. I mean, that would suck, but yeah,

815
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: I just get as much of my kids stuff as possible.

816
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: So like a favorite toy or yeah, like all of

817
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: the above stuff something, Yeah, would probably get those if

818
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting like my stuff, um, I would probably. I

819
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: would probably make sure I got my wife's engagement and

820
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: wedding rings. Yeah, just we're getting those. Don't worry, we

821
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: got them. Uh. And I don't know like stuff for myself.

822
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I have this weird attachment to

823
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 1: my old Nintendo sixty four that I've had since nineteen

824
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: ninety eight. That sucker, that sucker, all of the above,

825
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: all the above. That sucker spent two days submerged underwater

826
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: when our basement flooded when I was a kid, and

827
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: it still works. Yes, So I think that would be

828
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go get that because I Am not

829
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: letting this thing die in a fire. It's been underwater,

830
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: it has been through movement, submerged, it has been you know,

831
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: jacked around within college wall probably right, I mean all

832
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's a controllers thrown at it when things

833
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: don't go well in Golden Eye, like you don't. They

834
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: don't make them like they used to know, And I

835
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: would I would have to go downstairs and get that,

836
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: and then I would get jose Canseco from the episode

837
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: of The Simpsons where he builds a softball team to

838
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: go in and get everything else. Okay, I would go

839
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: in and I have I have a hard drive that

840
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: I have literally my entire life on work, personal, you know, documents.

841
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: It's probably not a good thing that I have everything

842
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: on one, but it's that's where I'm at right now.

843
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: Maybe that's an offseason project. But I would go in

844
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: and I would grab that, the hard drive that has

845
00:44:51,560 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, my whole life almost lights yeah, special, um.

846
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: And then I would grab my pillow. That's a good call.

847
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: I I have. My pillow is absolutely irreplaceable. I've had

848
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: it for probably twelve is a pillow it is? It is.

849
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: My pillow is and um, but also too, like, hey,

850
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: that is one convincing bastard, that guy all four seasons.

851
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm but I'm telling you it's Wait, there's more. I've got.

852
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: I've got this thing like no pun intended, I've got

853
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: it tailored to me. I mean, I've got that thing.

854
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: I've got it exactly where I needed to be. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I don't sleep well without it. Like when we go

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Speaker 1: on the road and we go to these hotels, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't sleep. I don't sleep nearly as well as

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Speaker 1: I do at home because I don't have my pillow.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I get trash sleep on

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Speaker 1: the road because I know what I might have the

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Speaker 1: I have a Casper pillow. It's great, and I always

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Speaker 1: wake up with a sore knack at the middle of

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Speaker 1: the night. And it's with you. Your head. Your head

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Speaker 1: just sink sink straight to the to the bed, to

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Speaker 1: the mattress or it's like I'm like a weird angle.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I'm like demonstrating this. This is

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Speaker 1: an audio network, but we're it. Yeah, Or like your

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Speaker 1: head kind of like tilts to the side and you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, WHOA. No, I'm totally with you. I

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Speaker 1: mean I I listen. The older I get, the more

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Speaker 1: I prioritize sleep, especially with two young ones. So when

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Speaker 1: we go on the road, I get jacked up because

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Speaker 1: I do have a quiet room to yourself. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: get some good night's sleep. And then you go to

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Speaker 1: lay your head on the pillow and it's like this

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00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: is just not the same. It's not the same. So

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Speaker 1: I would go get the hard drive. I would grab

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Speaker 1: the pillow and then f had like an extra thirty seconds,

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Speaker 1: maybe you know, go up and grab, you know, a

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00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: couple of Molly's things and make sure she's happy. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not too superficial. I feel good about that,

882
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and I feel like you guys are not either. Outside

883
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: of Layer's shoes, no doubt about that. All Right, A

884
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: lot has been covered here today, guys. I really appreciate

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00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: the perspective, the knowledge and thinking back on the time

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00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: that Frank Reich had with the Colts and what it

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00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: means now going forward that Jeff Saturday is in the fold. JJ,

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Speaker 1: You've written a lot, there's no doubt the last three weeks.

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Speaker 1: But what's on the docket the rest of this week

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Speaker 1: on colts dot com with the changes here, We're gonna

891
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: find out who the Colts offensive coordinator is sometime this

892
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Speaker 1: week and the play caller, right and yeah, in the

893
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Speaker 1: play callers, so we'll have that. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of news. A lot that's similar to hear

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow when Jeff has his first initial true meeting

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Speaker 1: with the media, I mean he introductory press conference, but

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Speaker 1: the first is Wednesday press conference that he'll do right

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Speaker 1: and then the locker room will open up, will have

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to players about this change and

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Speaker 1: how they're feeling. Take the temperature of the locker room

901
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Speaker 1: over the next couple of days and that'll all be

902
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: on Colts dot com. You can read it there no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Lara three sixty this week. Yeah, working on three sixty

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Speaker 1: as we speak. Have a couple of different features that

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Speaker 1: we are working on. We had Stefan Gilmour miked up

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00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: in New England his return. That's great because there was

907
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Speaker 1: a lot of banter between Steff on his former teammates.

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00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Quitty Pay's mom was in attendance for her first ever

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00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: game of his NFL career, as he's playing thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: away from where he grew up. That'll be on Coultsurie sixty.

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Speaker 1: And then there's a really special falled out career high

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00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: and Tackles. Yeah, there's a really special event in honor

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Speaker 1: of Veterans Day. It's election Day, by the way, guys

914
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Speaker 1: get out and vote, but in terms of Veterans Day,

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Speaker 1: upcoming really special event. Our community relations team has has

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Speaker 1: organized the military families to come in the building. It's

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Speaker 1: called Flags of Valor, so that'll be a nice feature.

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Speaker 1: If you miss it on Coultury six, you'll be up

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Speaker 1: on colds dot com as well. Meanwhile, on the Colts

920
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Audio Network, we had Colts Round Table last night with

921
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Speaker 1: Joe Wrights and Rick Ventury breaking down the moves with

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich being dismissed and Jeff Saturday in the fold.

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Speaker 1: Now daily updates coming up Tuesday through Thursday. This week

924
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Speaker 1: Inside Football, more commentary from Rick Ventury on the moves

925
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 1: and his blueprints to beat the Raiders. A guy who's

926
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Speaker 1: been an interim head coach who knows all too well.

927
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Speaker 1: He's got firsthand experience of all of this. I know

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Speaker 1: your foe. Case Keefer from the Las Vegas Sun is

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Speaker 1: going to join us later in the week and then

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Speaker 1: Friday Colts Happy Hour with JMB on the Home of

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Speaker 1: the Colts ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 1: to fan Sunday Night Instant Reaction. Yeah, probably probably a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a pushover took to Monday with the

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Speaker 1: late arrival getting in late from Las Vegas. Instant Reaction,

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Speaker 1: JJ Stankovitz and Bill Brooks. Guys, thanks for the podcast today,

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your day. Appreciate your time and

937
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Speaker 1: eight games to go. It's gonna be interesting. So here

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Speaker 1: we go. Appreciate you. Thanks all right, JJ, Lara Overton,

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. We're gonna have fun in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: The Colts have eight games to play. We'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens here for the remainder of the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty two season. Again for Lara, JJ, I am Matt.

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Speaker 1: We are presented by Winn Bett on the Official Colts Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you next week on Tuesday, after

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Speaker 1: the Colts hopefully beat the Raiders in Vegas.