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Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Charchian.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchian. Very
Speaker 1: happy to have you here this week and not making
Speaker 1: his debut second time ever. We've got co host kent
Speaker 1: Y Rock.
Speaker 3: Hi. Kent, Hey, Paul, how's it going. Thanks for bringing
Speaker 3: me back. I know it's been a while, but I
Speaker 3: appreciate the reinvitation.
Speaker 1: We felt like the last time was good enough to
Speaker 1: bring you back, but not for a year.
Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Cooling off period, I think to let you know, let
Speaker 1: you really reflect on the Fantasy Football Weekly culture, values, listenership,
Speaker 1: and you know, just maybe give you some time to
Speaker 1: really get yourself set up correctly with the right frame
Speaker 1: of mind. It was, you know, the last time was good.
Speaker 1: It's good, you know, but you know, not so good
Speaker 1: that we felt like we needed to have you back
Speaker 1: in eleven months.
Speaker 3: That's fine. I had a whole year. I could watch
Speaker 3: football and kind of enjoy my fantasy leagues and go
Speaker 3: through the whole draft process. So I've been busy.
Speaker 1: It's all right, good. I am coming to you listeners
Speaker 1: once again, like last week, from my closet. And I
Speaker 1: explained this last week. And we don't spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time on our on our personal lives in the show,
Speaker 1: and maybe we should do more in the off season especially,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But as I said last week, I've
Speaker 1: moved into this new house in Utah, but I don't
Speaker 1: have furniture yet, and so all the rooms are empty
Speaker 1: and echoey, with the one exception of my closet, because
Speaker 1: there are there's carpeting, there's clothing, and so I am
Speaker 1: sitting in my closet. Kent, you can see it because
Speaker 1: you can. You've got video right here. There's there's a
Speaker 1: non zero chance that my wife's under things are in
Speaker 1: the background somewhere. I don't know. Hopefully that's not the case.
Speaker 1: We'll find we'll find out, I guess. But yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's if it sounds a little bit different, that's why
Speaker 1: in the closet. But Kent, no such constraints for you.
Speaker 3: No, my office is just about as small as a closet,
Speaker 3: but it's a little bigger. So hopefully that goes not
Speaker 3: too bad in here either.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna I think it's gonna go great,
Speaker 1: and we're excited to have you here at the your
Speaker 1: real life job as data scientist. And I think what
Speaker 1: I loved about having you on last time, as we
Speaker 1: in a serious vein, is you you love grinding up
Speaker 1: data and a lot of times, you know, our opinions
Speaker 1: mean something. I test means something. You and I are
Speaker 1: gonna have an eye test different difference of opinion later
Speaker 1: in the show. But I love when people can find
Speaker 1: ways to validate their arguments with statistics data. And you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna put me to shame, Kent. I am not
Speaker 1: a data scientist. I'm just I'm just Paul.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, at the end of the day, Fantasy
Speaker 3: Football is a case environments. So I think any predictions
Speaker 3: that are going to be made on the show come
Speaker 3: with a lot of variants, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: a lot of fun to kind of grind the data
Speaker 3: and pull in you know, trends and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of injuries trades, weird things that happen every year, so
Speaker 3: it can fall apart very quickly. I just like doing it.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of fun. But yeah, we'll go back
Speaker 3: and forth on it, for sure.
Speaker 1: That is a deal. What the they are are primary.
Speaker 1: Primarily today we're going to talk about best ball players
Speaker 1: you and I've You've done I know many best ball drafts.
Speaker 1: I've done several. Although now that I'm in Utah, this
Speaker 1: is something I really hadn't hadn't thought given a lot
Speaker 1: of thought about I can't play basketball in Utah. I
Speaker 1: don't think Utah is a legal state. I don't think
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have not tried because I've been so
Speaker 1: busy with my move, But I think I don't know
Speaker 1: that I can play from here. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think Utah is a state. Now. Fortunately, I'm very
Speaker 1: near the board of both Arizona and and Nevada, so
Speaker 1: I can drive like forty five minutes and go scratch
Speaker 1: that itch.
Speaker 3: Go right across the border, pull your phone out, do
Speaker 3: a couple.
Speaker 1: Of exactly That's exactly. When I was living in Minneapolis,
Speaker 1: I had to drive all the way to the border
Speaker 1: of Iowa. So you know, that was almost two hours
Speaker 1: to get there. So this is is in that regard
Speaker 1: that's better from a sports betting standpoint. But I could
Speaker 1: play best ball in Minnesota. It's it's absurd that every
Speaker 1: state is different, right, So some states you can do
Speaker 1: best ball and betting. Some states you can do betting
Speaker 1: not best ball, some you can do best ball not betting,
Speaker 1: and some you can do neither.
Speaker 3: And they can't seem to make up their minds about
Speaker 3: what way it should be.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I know, but we can. You know,
Speaker 1: I think our listeners probably know where I stand on this.
Speaker 1: We've identified are for each of us are three most
Speaker 1: undervalued and overvalued players for best ball in particular. So
Speaker 1: we're putting on a lens of a best ball And
Speaker 1: tell me kent for you. When you're talking best ball
Speaker 1: as opposed to redraft, Dynasty, higher quillotine, or any other
Speaker 1: format that you like, what are the things that that
Speaker 1: make it, that make that go into your best ball
Speaker 1: decision making that's different from the other formats.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So one thing that I like to think about
Speaker 3: a lot is you know, if am I going to
Speaker 3: have a tough time deciding to start this player on
Speaker 3: a weekly basis. In a redraft league, I might avoid them,
Speaker 3: but in a basketball league, you don't really have to
Speaker 3: think about that. Yeah, you know, you're just aiming for
Speaker 3: you know, overall points, but also spike weeks where they're
Speaker 3: going out and scoring three touchdowns or something like that.
Speaker 3: So high scoring offense is definitely come into play quite
Speaker 3: a bit if you're looking for guys that are going
Speaker 3: to contribute in the scoring column. So that's probably the
Speaker 3: biggest difference, is you just want those high upside guys,
Speaker 3: that kind of asymmetrical upside, because the lowest thing can
Speaker 3: go well, I shouldn't say the lowest. I've seen negative
Speaker 3: scores technically, but yes, for the most part, the lowest
Speaker 3: score is zero. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, for me, this is almost like taking
Speaker 1: everything I look for in a guillotine league player and
Speaker 1: just reversing it. I'll just do the opposite of all
Speaker 1: of those guys. You know, we are looking for higher
Speaker 1: variance players. We are looking We don't ding players for
Speaker 1: being as in for being inconsistent as much. We want
Speaker 1: players where if things break right, they have a chance
Speaker 1: to be league winners. Who want more lottery ticket guys.
Speaker 1: I think in some cases backup runners have more value.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about a lot of those, a lot of
Speaker 1: those different best ball opportunities as we talk through our
Speaker 1: undervalued and overvalued players. Ken, let's start here. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with overvalued players, and I would like you to
Speaker 1: go first and talk about somebody that you're not taking
Speaker 1: at ADP.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So this is gonna be an interesting one, and
Speaker 3: I know that we may come come to come to
Speaker 3: blows up this one, but Bucky Irving is gonna be
Speaker 3: my first selection for overvalued. I want to make one
Speaker 3: thing very clear right up front. I love Bucky Irving
Speaker 3: as a player. He's a great player. He had a
Speaker 3: great rookie season. He's on a great offense. This all
Speaker 3: sounds rate, but he's currently going at the twenty second
Speaker 3: overall pick on underdog drafts and that's RB nine. So
Speaker 3: he's going to be your running back one almost certainly,
Speaker 3: unless you do some kind of running back running back
Speaker 3: double up up top. But he's got a lot of
Speaker 3: equity going into that draft selection. So you know, last
Speaker 3: year he was drafted a round fourteen fifteen. He was
Speaker 3: one of those lottery tickets we were talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and the scoring that you got out of him was
Speaker 3: immensely valuable because you were able to spend such a
Speaker 3: late pick on him. But this year, if you're you know,
Speaker 3: second maybe third round, if you're absolutely lucky, is the
Speaker 3: only way you can actually get him on your roster.
Speaker 3: So the biggest thing for me is that this Tampa
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers offense is bringing back a lot of guys
Speaker 3: and then also brought in an additional receiver, so they
Speaker 3: have a good stable of running backs, you know, regardless
Speaker 3: of there's been you know, qualms about Rashad White as
Speaker 3: a lead back, and that's understandable. But last year you
Speaker 3: did see them begin to go in more of a
Speaker 3: three headed drag in kind of deployment system where they
Speaker 3: were using all of them interchangeably. Even though Bucking Irving
Speaker 3: was the lead and getting a lot of work, they
Speaker 3: were still rotating in Rashod White, still rotating in Sean Tucker,
Speaker 3: who had a couple of big spots back last year.
Speaker 3: And you know, frankly, all these guys did very well.
Speaker 3: By the advanced metrics that I looked at. There's a
Speaker 3: step that I used called rushing yards over expectation, which
Speaker 3: basically takes into account you know where they are on
Speaker 3: the field, what the scheme is like, and a variety
Speaker 3: of different attributes for that individual down and says they
Speaker 3: could run for three and a half yards, but they
Speaker 3: ran for five instead, so that's one and a half
Speaker 3: more yards. Yeah, And so you know, all three of
Speaker 3: these guys were positive last year, and if we're looking
Speaker 3: at just between the tackles, Bucky Irving was technically the
Speaker 3: lowest of the three. Sean Tucker was at one point four,
Speaker 3: Shot White one point one, and Bucky Irving ato point
Speaker 3: eight over expectation. So again, they all were good, and
Speaker 3: Bucky Irving was just the least.
Speaker 1: Good, But that's also just between the tackles.
Speaker 3: Correct, sure, totally and I totally understand that he's going
Speaker 3: to be the lead back in his backfield. The question
Speaker 3: is how much is he going to be on the
Speaker 3: field if they are going to rotate through Rashad White's
Speaker 3: technically a better pass blocking running back. You know, on
Speaker 3: seventy nine pass blocking snaps, White is just seven pressures
Speaker 3: in one sack last year and Bucky Irving on only
Speaker 3: twenty eight pass blocking snaps allowed four pressures and three sacks.
Speaker 3: And you know that could go quarterbacks are largely responsible
Speaker 3: for when they're they're getting sacked on a pressure or not.
Speaker 3: But it's still a somewhat telling that that was able
Speaker 3: to occur on a much lower amount of snaps. So
Speaker 3: they're they're probably going to trust them a little bit
Speaker 3: less than Rashad White. And then you know, like I said,
Speaker 3: they drafted I Mecha Agbuka and he's going to be great.
Speaker 3: He's going to you know, hopefully contribute very early on
Speaker 3: in his offense. He's super awesome receivers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think he will be a contributor,
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't necessarily see that is a
Speaker 1: bad thing. I like, I feel like this is a
Speaker 1: rising boats thing. If you if you just put more
Speaker 1: and more weapons on an offense, I just feel like
Speaker 1: that's more trips over the fifty yard line, more trips
Speaker 1: into the red zone, more trips at the stripe where
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving is gonna get paid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess you're gonna hope that he's gonna
Speaker 3: have a ten plus touchdown season. That would be one
Speaker 3: way that he could pay off.
Speaker 1: Kenny had an eight touchdown season last year. Didn't even
Speaker 1: start games until halfway through the season.
Speaker 3: Totally true. But again, it's just that that cost associated
Speaker 3: with it that I think is the biggest hang up
Speaker 3: for me. And you know, I'm not saying I won't
Speaker 3: draft him if he does fall to the third round
Speaker 3: and I have a good, you know, maybe running back
Speaker 3: wide receiver setup. He's an awesome dude to take us
Speaker 3: your second running back, I'm totally in on that. But
Speaker 3: if he's your first running back, I am going to
Speaker 3: steer clear and maybe go for more of a like
Speaker 3: zero or beat type build or something like that. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just it's just expensive. I think
Speaker 3: that's the biggest reason. Love the player, hate the cost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I. You and I are different on
Speaker 1: this and and we'll see if we have other differences.
Speaker 1: I love Bucky Irving part of its eye test to do.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he is the hardest running
Speaker 1: full time back in the NFL right now. The metrics
Speaker 1: are eye popping. You know, you gave some of the
Speaker 1: down metrics, I'll give some of the up metrics on
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving. He finished third in avoided tackle rate among
Speaker 1: players at least one hundred and twenty carries, a twenty
Speaker 1: seven percent avoided tackle rate. He finished at five and
Speaker 1: a half yards per carry, and his third down conversion
Speaker 1: rate was eighty percent, which was highest than the highest
Speaker 1: in the league among NFL starting backs. There's I just
Speaker 1: I think this guy is. I think Bucky Irving is
Speaker 1: a special player. I'm happy to get him at his
Speaker 1: at his ADP, which is where is his ADP again?
Speaker 1: Right here?
Speaker 3: I had him at twenty two.
Speaker 1: Over twenty two, yep, twenty two running back nine. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it's light he's going to be. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put on my first rankings the year next week, I expect,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna be. He's gonna off the
Speaker 1: board in Bestball at running back nine. On underdog. I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna have him closer to running back five.
Speaker 1: So this is just one they use. I think you
Speaker 1: and I yep, I think you and I are just
Speaker 1: gonna gonna agree to disagree on that one. My overvalued player,
Speaker 1: my first overvalue player, a guy was nervous about for
Speaker 1: a lot of Fantasy Football Weekly Is last year. This
Speaker 1: one comes a big surprise to people. Joe Mixon, his
Speaker 1: ADP is fifty, He's running back fifteen, and here's my quibbles,
Speaker 1: Kent and feel free to jump in anytime. Houston's rebuild
Speaker 1: offensive line tons of question marks. They were awful last year.
Speaker 1: They ranked thirtieth in run block win rate, they were
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in Pro Football Focuses run blocking ranking, and
Speaker 1: all they did to improve their starting rotation they turned
Speaker 1: away Laramie Tunsel. And I don't blame him for that either.
Speaker 1: He was as overpaid as a player as there was
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But they backfilled him with Cam Robinson,
Speaker 1: who you'll remember the Jaguars traded for a ham Sandwich
Speaker 1: to the Vikings. The Vikings started him only because they
Speaker 1: had to, and then in this offseason the Vikings let
Speaker 1: him walk, and then they signed Cam Rombinson at left tackle.
Speaker 1: This will be his third team in two years. And
Speaker 1: then the other part that worries me about Mixing was
Speaker 1: how you know, he started off the season really well,
Speaker 1: got heard, came back still look pretty good, and then
Speaker 1: he just he just ran out of gas last year.
Speaker 1: He's had two thousand, three hundred career touches spanning eight seasons.
Speaker 1: He's going to turn twenty nine years old in a
Speaker 1: couple of months, and I'm just worried that the end
Speaker 1: is here for Joe Mixon, and I don't know that
Speaker 1: it is Kent because the offensive line was so bad.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of back sort of struggled last
Speaker 1: year behind this Houston offensive line. But I'd kind of
Speaker 1: rather get out a year early than a year too late.
Speaker 1: Last six games of last year for Joe Mixon Kent.
Speaker 1: He drooped to twenty ninth in rushing yards over the
Speaker 1: last six games of last year, thirty first in yards
Speaker 1: per carry at just three point four, which is miserable,
Speaker 1: and he dropped a twenty fifth and avoided tackle rate,
Speaker 1: which you can't blame on the offensive line. So I'm
Speaker 1: just worried. I think I'd rather get out a year
Speaker 1: early on Joe Mixon, and I think this is the
Speaker 1: year to get out. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not going to fight you too much on
Speaker 3: this one. He's kind of at the age cliff. He's
Speaker 3: at the touch cliff, like you were talking about. He
Speaker 3: saw a big reduction in kind of his value last year.
Speaker 3: The offense overall had a lot of struggles. Even CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud himself is not free to blame in this offense.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's tough. The only saving grace is that
Speaker 3: he really has no competition. I don't think that anyone
Speaker 3: is going to step up and steal a ton of work.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 3: That is, if you truly want the volume, you can
Speaker 3: take it. But again, you talk about that upside, I
Speaker 3: don't think he has much.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to your next over valued best
Speaker 1: ball player. Who are you going with for your second?
Speaker 1: Your second guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Tyreek Hill. This one just
Speaker 3: feels too easy right now. Honestly, he's going twenty fourth
Speaker 3: overall wide receiver thirteen. You know, he was drafted as
Speaker 3: a top five wide receiver for years, and he's not
Speaker 3: much lower than that, despite having a truly horrific season
Speaker 3: last year, at least for his case. And he's thirty
Speaker 3: one years old, frankly, I mean, he's getting up there
Speaker 3: in age. Even though he is, you know, a slighter fellow,
Speaker 3: he's able to probably handle that a little bit better
Speaker 3: than some of the slighter receivers.
Speaker 1: Slighter fellow, slighter fellow.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a little whispy guy out there. He
Speaker 3: runs fast and that's part of his deal. But you know,
Speaker 3: last year he was wide receiver thirty three in PPR
Speaker 3: points per game, and you are not happy if you
Speaker 3: get that out of him this year. And as far
Speaker 3: as I remember, he didn't even have any truly explosive
Speaker 3: weeks either. It was like, you hope he got a
Speaker 3: touchdown just so you could have a normal fantasy week
Speaker 3: out of Tyreek Kill. So you know, this is another team,
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins, that has some offensive line issues. That's
Speaker 3: an interesting rough shape. Yes, yeah, Toronto Arstaid is retired.
Speaker 3: They signed James Daniels, which is an okay signing, and
Speaker 3: they drafted Jonah seven Aya. I think I'm saying that right.
Speaker 3: I hope I am in round two. But their offensive
Speaker 3: tackles are two guys named Patrick Paul and Austin Jackson.
Speaker 3: And I'll give you a bonus points if you can
Speaker 3: tell me how good they are. But they're just league
Speaker 3: average at best, and they're gonna have a lot of
Speaker 3: issues getting this offense moving, kind of similar to the
Speaker 3: Houston issues over there. But yeah, in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: career lows in yards per route run, yards per target,
Speaker 3: yack after the reception PFF for receiving grade, and he
Speaker 3: tied his rookie season touchdown total as well, but he
Speaker 3: had forty more targets in twenty twenty four, So that's
Speaker 3: a low for me. It was tough, and if you
Speaker 3: had him, you were not in good shape. And frankly,
Speaker 3: at wide receiver thirteen, I'm not interested. I'm I'm tapping
Speaker 3: out probably on the Miami Dolphins. Dolphins offense in totality
Speaker 3: at their current prices. We may talk about that a
Speaker 3: little bit more in a bit, but uh, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's tough.
Speaker 1: I had Tyreek Hill on my list until I saw
Speaker 1: he was on your list, so I was also going
Speaker 1: to do Tyreek Hill, and I think there's, uh, there
Speaker 1: was there's a lot of good reason for that. For
Speaker 1: that you've you've outlined here. Not touching him at twenty
Speaker 1: fourth overall wide receiver thirteen, I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: I you know, the whole two situation as well, is uh,
Speaker 1: there's just to me, there's just, uh, there's just too
Speaker 1: much risk here for Tyreek Hill at that price point.
Speaker 1: My next over valued player is Marvin Harrison Junior, going
Speaker 1: off the board at pick number twenty eight, Wide receiver sixteen.
Speaker 1: You know, at that ADP kent you he people are
Speaker 1: assuming he's going to get way way better in year
Speaker 1: number two, and I'm not sure that's a safe assumption.
Speaker 1: I hope he does. I hope I'm wrong. He will
Speaker 1: be better next year. I think there's you know, almost
Speaker 1: certainly be better, but so much better that he should
Speaker 1: be going off the board at the twenty eighth pick.
Speaker 1: He wasn't even close to the twenty eighth receiver last year.
Speaker 1: And you know, what we saw last year, to me
Speaker 1: was really troubling. And he was Pro Football focuses wide
Speaker 1: receiver thirty five. He ranked thirty fourth in yards. He
Speaker 1: had one more yard than John Neusmith. That's it, thirty
Speaker 1: seventh in yards after reception. He had two point four
Speaker 1: yards after reception among wide receivers that was thirty seventh.
Speaker 1: That kent two point four yards after reception. You were
Speaker 1: getting you're basically getting tackled and falling forward at that
Speaker 1: point to get your two point four yards at the
Speaker 1: point of the catch. He finished worse than wide receiver
Speaker 1: forty seven different times last year Marvin Harrison. So you know,
Speaker 1: he needs to get so much better from the verse
Speaker 1: we saw last year to live up to ADP twenty
Speaker 1: eight that I don't think Marvin Harrison can get there,
Speaker 1: And I'd have felt better if they'd added a second
Speaker 1: wide receiver opposite side of the field that was going
Speaker 1: to take some of the defensive pressure off Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1: That is Zay Jones. That doesn't even count. So I
Speaker 1: am out on Marvin Harrison at ADP twenty eight. What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the only thing I'll say here is
Speaker 3: that you know, he had eight hundred and eighty five
Speaker 3: yards and eight touchdowns. That's for a rookie season. Pretty good.
Speaker 3: And you know, we for the longest time had this
Speaker 3: like third year breakout kind of strategy for wide receivers.
Speaker 3: We waited a few years, we let them develop. Marveson
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior certainly was seen as a top flight prospect.
Speaker 3: You know, he's got the name, the family value there,
Speaker 3: and honestly, he had a really great prospect profile. I
Speaker 3: think it was just kind of a tough fit in
Speaker 3: Arizona offense. You know, he's a lot better in kind
Speaker 3: of the contested catch situations. Like you said, he would
Speaker 3: catch it and fall forward as pretty much all he
Speaker 3: was doing. But they need to get him moving on
Speaker 3: a little bit different routes go a little bit more laterally,
Speaker 3: try and make some space for him in the scheme,
Speaker 3: and I think things could go a little better. I
Speaker 3: agree with you, I'm probably not going to be drafting him.
Speaker 3: I do remain skeptical but hopeful about his year two
Speaker 3: and beyond progress. Though.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong about Marvin Harrison Kent. I hope
Speaker 1: he has a great season. Let's go to your third
Speaker 1: and final over valued best ball player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is another price point problem, and it's Colston Lovelin,
Speaker 3: the new rookie on the Chicago Bears, drafted even before
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren, which I think was a shock to many people.
Speaker 3: Maybe not everyone, but those two guys were certainly seeing
Speaker 3: as the top two tight ends in his draft class.
Speaker 3: He's being drafted at one ten, so we're looking at
Speaker 3: the ninth round roughly and tight end nine. So people
Speaker 3: think he's ready to step in and be a tight
Speaker 3: end one the top twelve tight ends for this season.
Speaker 3: I'm not so gung ho about that. You know, he's
Speaker 3: probably gonna be a good player, but if you're expecting
Speaker 3: anything like what Brock Bauers did last year, you're going
Speaker 3: to be gravely gravely disappointed. Uh and he had roughly
Speaker 3: the same ADP last year as Loveland does. This year
Speaker 3: brought Bowers. So I think a lot of people are
Speaker 3: kind of riding on those coattails a little bit and
Speaker 3: thinking that Loveland could do something similar. You know, Cole
Speaker 3: Comett is still in this offense. They're gonna use a
Speaker 3: lot of twelve personnel. Ben Johnson, whose new in town,
Speaker 3: loves Dude's twelve personnel. They were third most in the
Speaker 3: league last year for the Lions, that is thirty two
Speaker 3: point two percent. So Cole Comette's gonna be on the
Speaker 3: field too. They're gonna, you know, utilize probably both of
Speaker 3: them in the one tight end sets as well. So
Speaker 3: if you're getting more than seventy percent snaps out of Loveland,
Speaker 3: I'd be shocked. I think he's gonna be more of
Speaker 3: those middle percentages. And you know, going back to twenty ten,
Speaker 3: only six instances of tight ends in their rookie season
Speaker 3: had more than ten PPR points per game in their
Speaker 3: rookie year. So yes, I don't I don't particularly believe
Speaker 3: that Loveland is going to be the guy to do
Speaker 3: like what Brock Bauers did or anything remotely similar. We
Speaker 3: need we still need to see it from Caleb Williams
Speaker 3: on his Bears offense before Yeah, I can trust you know,
Speaker 3: the third, fourth, fifth option on this offense. Who knows
Speaker 3: right now? They still have a lot of good pass
Speaker 3: catchers there, so it's gonna be very interesting. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Titan nine, I will not be drafting Colston Loveland this
Speaker 3: year unless he dips considerably.
Speaker 1: The I'm with you one hundred percent on everything you
Speaker 1: just said. Let me give you another another example. We
Speaker 1: all assumed Dalton Kincaid would just mow down Dawson Knox,
Speaker 1: and for two years that hasn't happened. You know, we
Speaker 1: saw flashes where he looked better than Dawson Knox, but honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost a timeshare between those two for
Speaker 1: two straight years. And Kincaid had first round equity as well.
Speaker 1: And you know the other thing about Bowers is Bowers
Speaker 1: on a team where though there was nobody else to
Speaker 1: even get the ball to, Chicago's got so many more options.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks Romadoonza it's sitting on a big season that
Speaker 1: he's gonna break out. They added Luther Burden, They've got
Speaker 1: DJ Moore. You know, they've got so many other weapons
Speaker 1: they don't have to funnel their offense to their rookie
Speaker 1: tight end the same way the Raiders did. So I
Speaker 1: think that's a I think that's a great call in
Speaker 1: Colston Lovelin. All right, my final guy that I'm using
Speaker 1: is my over valued best ball player is T Higgins,
Speaker 1: And a little bit like you said with Bucky Irving,
Speaker 1: I wanna be really careful here. T Higgins a good player.
Speaker 1: I like him, and you know, but I don't know
Speaker 1: that he's going off the board at pick twenty three. Overall,
Speaker 1: I just don't know that any guy who's not who's
Speaker 1: the number two receiver on his own team Kent should
Speaker 1: be going off the board at his position at pick
Speaker 1: number twenty three. And so this is entirely a conversation
Speaker 1: about ADP. Like you said with Bucky Irving, he just
Speaker 1: stands in that long, deep shadow cast by Jamar Chase,
Speaker 1: who had one hundred and seventy five targets last year,
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five of the year before. You know,
Speaker 1: there are just some games where there just aren't enough
Speaker 1: balls to go around. For T Higgins, he was under
Speaker 1: sixty yards and one third of his games, and he
Speaker 1: topped eighty eight yards just two times. He's very, very
Speaker 1: touchdown dependent. Now, now granted, in best ball touchdown dependent
Speaker 1: is not the end of the world. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can you know that is okay to have those spike
Speaker 1: touchdown weeks. That is all right, but it picked twenty three.
Speaker 1: I'd like to have just more consistency than what I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna get out of T Higgins there at
Speaker 1: that price point. So that to me is that's my
Speaker 1: case against against T Higgins and as my third over
Speaker 1: valued best ball player. Kent your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Well, And now that he's got his contract, he's gonna
Speaker 3: stop trying. He earned his money and he can just
Speaker 3: give up and sit on the bed. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't hate this one. I will probably
Speaker 3: consider it the only The only thing that makes him
Speaker 3: less draftable for me, even though he is a good player,
Speaker 3: is that it's really tough to get a Bengals stack
Speaker 3: with all these three guys being very expensive in price.
Speaker 3: So it's definitely one of the tough ones to do.
Speaker 3: And like you said, if he's the second option on
Speaker 3: the team, you gotta hope you well, pretty much. If
Speaker 3: you're not in the top you know two slots, you
Speaker 3: might get Chase, but most likely you are not going
Speaker 3: to have Chase. So that means you just got Higgins
Speaker 3: and Burrow. I'm not in on that, so uh yeah,
Speaker 3: that that's a fine call out. But he's a good player,
Speaker 3: He's just he's just a little pricey, and so are
Speaker 3: his other very rich compadres.
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, we're gonna give you
Speaker 1: six players we love at their price point. So we've
Speaker 1: got kind of negative here ken to start this show.
Speaker 1: We're going to turn things around and look for some
Speaker 1: positivity and identify three each of our favorite best ball
Speaker 1: value players when we come back. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly,
Speaker 1: Paul Jarchian, Kent, why wreck with you as well? Kent.
Speaker 1: We've started with the negative side, players that were nervous
Speaker 1: about at their price point. Now let's go to players
Speaker 1: that we're excited to draft and in many cases will reach,
Speaker 1: will reach for and I will once again, I'll let
Speaker 1: you go first. Tell me who, tell me who you're
Speaker 1: targeting in best Ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is an interesting one, and honestly, I
Speaker 3: was a little bit on offense about it. But I
Speaker 3: decided to go with my gut and throw it on
Speaker 3: the list. Anyway, Okay, I'm gonna go with Michael Pennix Junior.
Speaker 3: And this might come as a surprise to some people.
Speaker 3: You know, he's pretty cheap right now. He's one hundred
Speaker 3: and forty fifth overall QB twenty one. Yeah, very very yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So it's very easy to be undervalued when you're when
Speaker 3: you're that cheap. But one thing that's very interesting is
Speaker 3: that the Atlanta Falcons have the fourth easiest strength of
Speaker 3: schedule this year based on the win totals at Vegas
Speaker 3: as calculated by Sharp Football. So if we have an
Speaker 3: opportunity for Penix to come into this offense, get motivated,
Speaker 3: have some wins under his belt, and really develop as
Speaker 3: a passer, this is an opportunity for him this year.
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins is technically on the roster. I think it's
Speaker 3: very likely that he's traded at some point. I think
Speaker 3: he is overall resigned from the idea of playing for
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons anymore. I think I could be wrong
Speaker 3: on that, but that does feel like the undertones right now.
Speaker 3: You know, Kirk has expressed that he wants to start
Speaker 3: in this league still, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe the Steelers, with Aaron Rodgers drag and his feet,
Speaker 3: maybe they just say, you know what, forget you're We'll
Speaker 3: go get Cousins. He'll be able to play for us.
Speaker 3: We still have a decent roster less one wide receiver
Speaker 3: in George Pickens who's now gone. But regardless, back to
Speaker 3: the Falcons Pennix. You know, in his third start last year,
Speaker 3: which was the last three weeks of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: he had three hundred and twelve passing yards, two passing
Speaker 3: touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. That was twenty six fantasy
Speaker 3: points roughly to be And what league format you're in
Speaker 3: and all that, but that is a higher single game
Speaker 3: total than Drake May, Trevor Lawrence, C J. Stroud, which
Speaker 3: we talked about his struggles last year. Those three guys
Speaker 3: are all going ahead of him right now. And he
Speaker 3: played just three games. Now, granted it was Week eighteen,
Speaker 3: and granted it was against the Carolina Fans.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big asterisk right there.
Speaker 3: But that is a big aster risk and I will
Speaker 3: accept it. But you know, he's got some exciting value
Speaker 3: to him and they're bringing back essentially the identical offense
Speaker 3: from last year, Drake London, Darnell Mooney, Kyle Pitts. You know,
Speaker 3: we're all gonna convince ourselves once again that Kyle Pitts
Speaker 3: has an opportunity. But it's a good pass catching group
Speaker 3: and you know, be John Robinson at Tyler Lgier at
Speaker 3: the running back position. It's a great offense. So okay, okay,
Speaker 3: pretty good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, pretty good.
Speaker 3: I'll go now I want an adjective on there. Pretty good.
Speaker 3: But I think this is a good opportunity for them
Speaker 3: to have the entire offseason to work together. They can
Speaker 3: review the film from last year, talk about what didn't work.
Speaker 3: He can step in as the starter. Kirk is still
Speaker 3: technically there for now to you know, mentor him as
Speaker 3: much as he might feel compelled to. But you know,
Speaker 3: I think this is a good year for Michael Pennock junior.
Speaker 3: And like I said, it's the cheap value where I'm
Speaker 3: going to swing for one of those guys that could
Speaker 3: have like a top ten upside type of season if
Speaker 3: he steps into his prospect profile. And at Washington he
Speaker 3: was averaging three hundred and forty one passing yards a game.
Speaker 3: So this guy can sling it, and I'm hoping that
Speaker 3: he can step into the Falcons offense and sling it too.
Speaker 3: And the best part, you know, talking about making those
Speaker 3: stacks and cheaper ADP. This is not a Bengal situation.
Speaker 3: Drake is sixteenth overall, Darnold Mooney is ninetieth, Kyle Pitts
Speaker 3: one forty six, and Ray Ray McLeod who you know,
Speaker 3: kind of a throwaway last pick type guy. But if
Speaker 3: you have a stack going fee, feel free to add
Speaker 3: him to the list. And you've got a nice little
Speaker 3: stack here that could make you some money if it
Speaker 3: does step up into something slightly better than pretty good.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we're hoping for that. I just I think
Speaker 3: it's an interesting case where a lot could go right
Speaker 3: and then things turn out really well for him.
Speaker 1: That's Michael Penix, I the guy, the out of the
Speaker 1: guy out of that Falcons offense, a guy I'm targeting.
Speaker 1: I've been targeting Darnell Mooney because he's the you know
Speaker 1: this big play speed and you know he did. He
Speaker 1: does give you the bigger variance than obviously Drake London does.
Speaker 1: But I like I do, I like them. I like
Speaker 1: the Darnell Mooney side of it at ADP ninety more
Speaker 1: than I like paying the Drake London at sixteen, for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, my first undervalued player is my favorite sleeper
Speaker 1: from last year, and so your listeners are gonna be like,
Speaker 1: oh charge, Here he goes again, reminding us that he
Speaker 1: nailed his favorite sleeper last year. Yeah, that is kind
Speaker 1: of happening here too. But he's still undervalued. And it's
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir, the Buffalo wide receiver currently going off the
Speaker 1: board at pick eighty one, wide receiver forty five. What
Speaker 1: that doesn't even make sen That is a calculate to
Speaker 1: me at all. So last year for Khalil shakir breakout season,
Speaker 1: he jumped from forty targets the year before to one
Speaker 1: hundred targets. He went from thirty nine receptions to seventy
Speaker 1: six receptions. And Shakir's really good among receivers with more
Speaker 1: than fifty catches. He finished number one in yards after
Speaker 1: catch last year eight yards after catch, and that was
Speaker 1: no fluke. Last year, when I was trying to make
Speaker 1: my case for Khalil Shakir to be the last pick
Speaker 1: of your draft, he was third in yards after catch
Speaker 1: behind Deebo Samuel and Tyreek Hill. I mean, that's awfully
Speaker 1: good company. And this year he's number one. Coming out
Speaker 1: of last season, they get the Bills liked him so
Speaker 1: much they gave him a four year new contract, so
Speaker 1: obviously they believe in him. And he's the number one
Speaker 1: target for the first quarterback being taken in Best Ball
Speaker 1: drafts Josh Allen. He had just two drops last year out.
Speaker 1: Shakir is not bulletproof. I mean, you know, there is
Speaker 1: a reason he's going at wide receiver forty five, and
Speaker 1: that's mostly because it's a lot of short stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: typically in Best Ball you want some explosiveness to your game.
Speaker 1: His a dot was just five and a half yards.
Speaker 1: It's one of the shortest in the league. He is
Speaker 1: not an end zone target guy, just a ten percent
Speaker 1: end zone target rate. But you know, he had the big,
Speaker 1: big move last year Kent where he got so much
Speaker 1: better than Khalil Shakir was the year before. You know,
Speaker 1: if he gets just incrementally better this year, I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna see the touchdown the touchdown numbers go up,
Speaker 1: and the explosive plays go up, and I think Khalil
Speaker 1: Shakir is simply better than the forty fifth best fantasy
Speaker 1: wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna fight you too much
Speaker 3: here because he is so cheap. My only commentary would
Speaker 3: be that, you know, the Buffalo Bills. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you saw the deal with Brandon Bean talking about
Speaker 3: drafting receivers or not, and how that's an ordeal amongst
Speaker 3: the fans, but you know they did go get Elijah Moore,
Speaker 3: that they have Joshua Palmer there now they might have
Speaker 3: some kind of a platoon system. Yeah, I know, I'm
Speaker 3: not They're not.
Speaker 1: Touching a guy. They just those guys are not touching
Speaker 1: a guy. They just gave fifty million dollars too.
Speaker 3: I trust me. I totally agree he's going to be
Speaker 3: the top guy on this offense. But they were the
Speaker 3: number one scoring offense last year and they did something
Speaker 3: similar with their wide receiver group last year, so you
Speaker 3: know that that'd be my only argument. But again, he's cheap.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to push too much here.
Speaker 1: Let's go to your number two undervalued best ball player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Alvin Kamara, And honestly, it's
Speaker 3: tough because he's getting up there in age two. I
Speaker 3: talked about Tyreek Hill earlier, and we talked about Joe
Speaker 3: Mixon getting up there in age I think again, another
Speaker 3: slightly fellow, if you'll allow me to use the phrase
Speaker 3: once again.
Speaker 1: How many slight fellows are there in the league?
Speaker 3: Now, Well, there's just at least two, at least two.
Speaker 3: But you know he he's been drafted as the running
Speaker 3: back twenty one and last year he was running back
Speaker 3: six in points per game and he'll had eight total touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Now that's been a kind of a trend for a
Speaker 3: few years. He hasn't had those big touchdown seasons like
Speaker 3: he did. Yeah, don't if you remember Becking, what was
Speaker 3: that twenty twenty dropped? Was it six against the Vikings?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Five or six? Yeah, that was hard to get out.
Speaker 1: I got I got knocked. I lost a fantasy championship
Speaker 1: and that was a Saturday. I'm in the fantasy I'm
Speaker 1: in a Guillotine League fantasy championship, might I add? You know,
Speaker 1: so you make it all the way through seventeen weeks
Speaker 1: of cuts, you're in the championship game and it's over
Speaker 1: on Saturday when your opponent starts. Alvin Kamara it was
Speaker 1: still best.
Speaker 3: You were just going to the week like I've lost,
Speaker 3: even though I have my entire roster left the play
Speaker 3: for the most part. But you know, regardless of that,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four was his highest scrimmage yardage total since
Speaker 3: twenty twenty So he had fourteen hundred and ninety three
Speaker 3: scrimmage yards. That was the eleventh most in the league
Speaker 3: last year behind Devon Ah Chang, who you know, he's
Speaker 3: being drafted as running back seven right now, and that's
Speaker 3: a pretty stark difference in cost. Now, granted he had
Speaker 3: a few more touchdowns and all that, but you know,
Speaker 3: I think that Alvin Kamara has a good opportunity to
Speaker 3: repeat his usage. The Saint sign Clyde Edwards a Laire
Speaker 3: drafted a sixth rounder in Devin Neil.
Speaker 1: Well, I like, you know, we've and Thorn and I
Speaker 1: talked about this just last week. I believe we both
Speaker 1: think Devin Neil is a really intriguing player to uh
Speaker 1: to target near the end and it might be the
Speaker 1: very last pick of your draft. Uh. You know, if
Speaker 1: if you think Alvin Kamara and you're right, last year
Speaker 1: he looked good. I mean, Kamara still looked a lot
Speaker 1: like the player we've seen. But if you just feel
Speaker 1: like this is this might be the beginning of the
Speaker 1: end for Alvin Kamara. Devin Neil brings the table pass
Speaker 1: catching chops, interior running chops, super good footwork. He's he's
Speaker 1: a really intriguing player and and there's something to be
Speaker 1: said about at a minimum, hancuffing those guys. So just
Speaker 1: a quick aside on Devin Neil before we should just
Speaker 1: throw him away here. I think there's, uh, there is
Speaker 1: something to like about that kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, only come you know. The only thing I'll
Speaker 3: say is he was a sixth rounder, so you know,
Speaker 3: at least maybe give him some time to acclimate to
Speaker 3: the NFL that that the NFL told us what they
Speaker 3: think about him. He could outperform that for sure. But
Speaker 3: and like you said, you can add him in the
Speaker 3: back of your draft if you want to go with
Speaker 3: a handcuff situation. Yeah, totally agree. But you know, as
Speaker 3: far as his main competition, I think Andre Miller is
Speaker 3: still the guy that you're the most worried about, but
Speaker 3: I'm not. At the end of last season, he was
Speaker 3: truly horrendous. Head In a final two games of the year,
Speaker 3: he had eleven rushes for eighteen yards on the ground.
Speaker 3: He had three receptions for thirty two yards. But it
Speaker 3: was really bad. And honestly, I don't know if you
Speaker 3: know this. Last year Kamara rushed sixteen point three times
Speaker 3: per game, which was the second highest in his career.
Speaker 1: So you put you but Kent. We could use that
Speaker 1: both ways, right, You could be like, look, we're just
Speaker 1: we're adding more hits onto an already what is he
Speaker 1: in his seventh year something like that at least, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, we're adding yet more hits and more workload
Speaker 1: onto that frame. And you know that's you know that
Speaker 1: might that might have end up that workload from last
Speaker 1: year might end up working against Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 3: Well, And that's kind of what I was going to
Speaker 3: lead into here, is that he historically has thrived on
Speaker 3: limited yet valuable touches. He's you know, obviously a really
Speaker 3: great receiver, probably one of the best receiving running backs
Speaker 3: in the game right now or the last decade or so.
Speaker 3: He's done a very good job catching the ball and
Speaker 3: making yardage out of that. So I think that he
Speaker 3: still has an opportunity to land in a twelve to
Speaker 3: thirteen rush four to seven reception range that he's always
Speaker 3: kind of done, and that's a reduction from last year,
Speaker 3: but it's enough to get those high value touches if
Speaker 3: he can have any kind of upsing on touchdowns, which
Speaker 3: you know, might be asking a lot if Derek Carr
Speaker 3: can't play, and that's something we're yet to be determined here,
Speaker 3: but I think maybe this is a little bit kind
Speaker 3: of galaxy brained, but Tyler Shuck draft pick might be
Speaker 3: a sign of confidence for Derek Carr being able to
Speaker 3: play at the beginning of the season. They really don't
Speaker 3: have a lot as far as a starting quarterback on
Speaker 3: the roster. Spencer Ratler and Ja Hayner are non starters.
Speaker 3: Do not have the confidence to put those guys out
Speaker 3: there week one, And I don't think Schuck's the guy
Speaker 3: you want playing week one either. You've probably sit him
Speaker 3: down for a season and develop them up a little bit.
Speaker 3: So if Derek Carr does start, this offense is again
Speaker 3: not great, but still decent, good enough to score some touchdowns.
Speaker 3: And if Alvin Kamara has little to no competition for
Speaker 3: you know, this year, at least I'm all in running
Speaker 3: back twenty one, that's pretty affordable and if he can
Speaker 3: repeat last year and maybe throw on another touchdown or two,
Speaker 3: that's that's making money right there.
Speaker 1: My second undervalued basketball player is Vikings running back Jordan Mason.
Speaker 1: His ADP is one hundred and six running back, thirty
Speaker 1: four off the board. They're thirty two NFL team, so
Speaker 1: this is one of the top backups going and correctly so.
Speaker 1: So there's not a lot of times where I can
Speaker 1: talk about Kent like personal experience where you know, I
Speaker 1: talked to a player. I worked the official Vikings draft
Speaker 1: party and Aaron Jones is there and I asked him.
Speaker 1: I asked Aaron Jones about his role in this offense,
Speaker 1: and he said he's going to yield short yardage carries
Speaker 1: to Jordan Mason. So you know, right from his mouth,
Speaker 1: we know that Jordan Mason is going to get those carries,
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. Aaron Jones from inside the five
Speaker 1: yard line last year thirteen carries, negative two yards and
Speaker 1: just three touchdowns on the thirteen carries. That's terrible. So
Speaker 1: here comes Jordan Mason. We know he's a good interior runner.
Speaker 1: He weighs twenty pounds more than Aaron Jones. He's his
Speaker 1: career average is five point three yards per carry. Granted
Speaker 1: I'm relatively light workloads because it's it's he's a young player.
Speaker 1: Remember the Vikings traded to get a Jordan Mason, so
Speaker 1: they gave up equity to get him, so obviously they
Speaker 1: like him. He's not going to be somebody who's gonna
Speaker 1: catch a lot of passes. But Jordan Mason is going
Speaker 1: to bring every week one touchdown, two touchdown, maybe even
Speaker 1: three touchdown offense unless JJ McCarthy's awful, and that.
Speaker 3: Is oh well, well, don't let thor hear you say.
Speaker 1: I know right exactly. I think JJ is gonna be good,
Speaker 1: but maybe I just want him to be good. But
Speaker 1: I think JJ is going to be good, and Jordan Mason,
Speaker 1: you know he's got He's going to be the touchdown
Speaker 1: guy in this offense. You could make the opposite side
Speaker 1: of this is I feel like in best ball especially,
Speaker 1: you can't touch Aaron Jones. He could be sitting on
Speaker 1: a three four touchdown season and that would that would
Speaker 1: really worry me, even at his depressed ADP. I think
Speaker 1: you can't touch Aaron Jones, who, by the way, thirty
Speaker 1: years old and has a history of getting dinged up.
Speaker 1: Although he played all the games last year for the Vikings,
Speaker 1: but that again, that might work against him at age thirty,
Speaker 1: that he was given such a big workload. So we're
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of Jordan Mason this year,
Speaker 1: and I'm buying at ADP one h six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, earlier I mentioned, you know, rushing back excuse me,
Speaker 3: running backs, rushing yards over expectation. Jordan Mason was third
Speaker 3: per attempt last year. He's good.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: He's good at football, and you know, I'm glad we
Speaker 3: got him in a deal that was relatively cheap from
Speaker 3: a Vikings perspective, so that should be a good one
Speaker 3: to punch in Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason. I was
Speaker 3: a little surprised to see how high his ADP came up.
Speaker 3: I was hoping it would be a little cheaper me too,
Speaker 3: But I do understand why people are excited because he
Speaker 3: has had the juice every time he touched the ball
Speaker 3: last year. So it's a lot of fun, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: There's a chance that he's better than Aaron Jones and
Speaker 1: that that this roles are gonna flip flop in Jordan
Speaker 1: Mason at some point in the year, and maybe sooner
Speaker 1: than later he turns into the Alpha Jones turns into
Speaker 1: the change of pace guy and the passing down guy
Speaker 1: because Mason can't catch there is it goes that way.
Speaker 1: All right, your final undervalued best ball player is somebody
Speaker 1: I wanted to use, but you had already picked him.
Speaker 1: So let's go agree on Juwan Jennings.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I'm glad to do it again talking
Speaker 3: about someone who's he's wide receiver thirty seven right now,
Speaker 3: ADP sixty six, So he's very affordable for a guy
Speaker 3: who put up some really impressive numbers last year, and
Speaker 3: now the Deebo Samuel's gone. Brandon Aiyuk, there's still some
Speaker 3: you know, floaters in the air about him potentially being traded.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of tenuous conversations going on
Speaker 3: in the forty nine ers building around him. You know,
Speaker 3: Ricky pearsall who showed flashes last year and the year
Speaker 3: really strong, but he played more, you know, I would say,
Speaker 3: an average of seventy percent of the snaps and was
Speaker 3: mostly invisible for a lot of those games. So you know,
Speaker 3: at the end of the year he turned it on
Speaker 3: a bit that might translate to the entire next season.
Speaker 3: But I have a feeling that's probably going to be
Speaker 3: a trend that continues. He'll have games where he's there
Speaker 3: in games where he's not. Juwan Jennings, on the other hand,
Speaker 3: he was there every game. Yeah, he was performing outstanding
Speaker 3: and on among the forty nine ers pass catching options,
Speaker 3: Jennings was second in receiving yards per game, just Bryank Kittle,
Speaker 3: first in red zone targets, second in receiving touchdowns behind Kittle,
Speaker 3: second in yards per route run behind Kittle, second in
Speaker 3: PFF receiving grade behind Kittle. Yeah, and then of course
Speaker 3: first in targets of twenty plus yards, which is you
Speaker 3: know something that I don't know if you recall this
Speaker 3: is a while ago now. When he was coming out
Speaker 3: he was a seventh rounder. He had a really slow
Speaker 3: forty times. It was like a four to seven four
Speaker 3: or something like that, and he had some off the
Speaker 3: field stuff to really tank his stock. But he has
Speaker 3: had a lot of opportunity to work on his route tree.
Speaker 3: He's got pretty good hands. He's putting it all together.
Speaker 3: In the last year was his fourth year, entering his
Speaker 3: fifth year. Now, he's really brought himself up to a
Speaker 3: level that's been quite impressive as an NFL receiver. And
Speaker 3: he was a transition out of quarterback in high school
Speaker 3: into receiver in college. So he's twenty seven and a
Speaker 3: half years old, roughly. It took him a little while,
Speaker 3: but I think he's figured it out. And fun fact,
Speaker 3: this is a great fun fact. I absolutely had to
Speaker 3: bring this up. Juan Jennings is the second player in
Speaker 3: Super Bowl history who threw and caught a touchdown, joining
Speaker 3: who else but Nick Foles, Yes, Chars.
Speaker 1: Philly's Company special of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, you know he's and he's six three, two twelve.
Speaker 3: He's got really kind of rare size these days, as
Speaker 3: you know, the NFL gets smaller and quicker, both on
Speaker 3: the wide receivers and the cornerbacks. It's nice to have
Speaker 3: a guy who, you know, despite his concerns for his speed,
Speaker 3: is able to create separation, catch the ball with confidence,
Speaker 3: turn get up field. He could stand to improve his
Speaker 3: yack ability a little bit. That's probably his most glaring
Speaker 3: fix that needs to happen. But he's likely going to
Speaker 3: be the top receiver on the forty nine ers offense
Speaker 3: this year. I think that's I think too.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I just love him. You know,
Speaker 1: some guys are just players. And Juwan Jennings he loves
Speaker 1: to block, he loves to hit guys. He loves physical play.
Speaker 1: He's big, he's a bully. I just I love the
Speaker 1: way he plays. I think Kyle Shanahan does too. And
Speaker 1: I agree that he's going to lead the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: And given his ADP of wide receiver thirty seven, I'm in.
Speaker 1: I'm in. That's a that is a you know, it's
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be a great San Francisco offense,
Speaker 1: and it'll be a good San Francisco offense and I
Speaker 1: can get the best receiver at wide receiver thirty seven,
Speaker 1: pick sixty six overall, I'll take it for Juwan Jennings.
Speaker 1: All right. Our last player to be covered in this show,
Speaker 1: My final undervalued best ball player is David Montgomery. ADP
Speaker 1: is picked seventy two, running back twenty four. Hey, Ken,
Speaker 1: do you like touchdowns?
Speaker 3: I've enjoyed them from time to time.
Speaker 1: Yes, no touchdown enjoyer. Yes. If I told you right now,
Speaker 1: David Montgomery is going to lead the NFL in rushing
Speaker 1: touchdowns in twenty twenty five. Is that a plausible statement.
Speaker 3: Plausible Yes, for sure, Yes, I.
Speaker 1: Mean that's not it is absolutely in the realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: And he's running back twenty four in Best Ball. You know,
Speaker 1: we know the Lions love to run the ball near
Speaker 1: the stripe, and that's not going away with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is going to do. That's a Dan camp
Speaker 1: that if Dan Gambele is he is going to punish
Speaker 1: you at the stripe. The Lions over the last two
Speaker 1: seasons have ranked number one in rushing attempts from inside
Speaker 1: the five yard line. And they've done that without having
Speaker 1: a quarterback doing the tush push to inflate those stats,
Speaker 1: having Josh Allen do inflace those stats. Jared Goff's not
Speaker 1: running the ball from the three yard line, that's all
Speaker 1: they're running backs. And more Montgomery than Jamiir Gibbs and
Speaker 1: the other side that I like about Montgomery, not just
Speaker 1: the touchdown upside, which in Best Ball we do. We
Speaker 1: want touchdown upside. We want those explosive games where David
Speaker 1: Montgomery gets you two or three in a game, which
Speaker 1: which he's done many times. But if anything God forbid
Speaker 1: were to happen to Jamier Gibbs. You've got a top
Speaker 1: five running back for your best ball team, so there's
Speaker 1: a ton to like at David Montgomery at eightp. Seventy two,
Speaker 1: I believe. Are you with me on this.
Speaker 3: Ken, Yeah, I think the biggest challenge to David Montgomery
Speaker 3: scoring a touchdown inside the three is Jumior Gibbs scoring
Speaker 3: it from inside the ten. I think that's the biggest
Speaker 3: challenge because they're going to score, it's just a matter
Speaker 3: of who it's going to be. And honestly, I'm on
Speaker 3: Rossain Brown's a great red zone threat as well.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, They've got Yeah, they've got so many they
Speaker 1: have so many players that there's gonna be variants with Montgomery,
Speaker 1: but it's best Ball. We're embracing the variants here, Kent.
Speaker 3: That's right, Yes, absolutely, yeah, I'm in on that one.
Speaker 3: Like you said, so, I don't there's no visual component
Speaker 3: to this particular podcast right now. But I raise my
Speaker 3: eyebrows when you said what his price tag was. I
Speaker 3: had not even looked at that one specifically yet, so
Speaker 3: that that is honestly a very very affordable price point.
Speaker 3: I would love to buy in on the potential for
Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns. Yes, if you want to, if you want
Speaker 3: to go towards that route.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if Montgomery plays a full season of seventeen games,
Speaker 1: I think he is sitting at that twelve thirteen, fourteen
Speaker 1: to fifteen sixteen touchdown range because it's just it's such
Speaker 1: a good offense and we know they're going to run
Speaker 1: the ball. So yeah, David Montgomery, our final guy. Thank
Speaker 1: you listening. Everybody had great job. I'd like to have
Speaker 1: you this time. I have you back in next week.
Speaker 3: I believe. Yeah, or.
Speaker 1: All right, spoiler alert right now. Every everybody thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be ten months and then you'd come back
Speaker 1: and they'd all be pleasantly surprised next week or well,
Speaker 1: cats out of the bank. We'll have you back next week.
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm trying to remember what what's our? What
Speaker 1: is our? What are we talking about? Next week?
Speaker 3: We are breaking down the divisions.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're going to start our divisional breakdowns. Right,
Speaker 1: so we're we've got uh, we've got I believe six
Speaker 1: shows or is it three shows? I think trying to
Speaker 1: remember we're doing two four show We're.
Speaker 3: Going, uh direction, Yeah, that is it, NFC East first
Speaker 3: around the Horn.
Speaker 1: We're going to highlight notable changes and offenses for each
Speaker 1: of the divisions beginning next week with Ken. Stay tuned
Speaker 1: for that, everybody, and thank you for listening. Fantasy Football
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