WEBVTT - Do Jauan Best Ball Values? Yes! 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly

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<v Speaker 2>source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's your host, Paul Charchian.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I am Paul Charchian. Very

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<v Speaker 1>happy to have you here this week and not making

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<v Speaker 1>his debut second time ever. We've got co host kent

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<v Speaker 1>Y Rock.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi. Kent, Hey, Paul, how's it going. Thanks for bringing

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<v Speaker 3>me back. I know it's been a while, but I

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate the reinvitation.

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<v Speaker 1>We felt like the last time was good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you back, but not for a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Cooling off period, I think to let you know, let

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<v Speaker 1>you really reflect on the Fantasy Football Weekly culture, values, listenership,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just maybe give you some time to

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<v Speaker 1>really get yourself set up correctly with the right frame

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<v Speaker 1>of mind. It was, you know, the last time was good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good, you know, but you know, not so good

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<v Speaker 1>that we felt like we needed to have you back

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<v Speaker 1>in eleven months.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine. I had a whole year. I could watch

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<v Speaker 3>football and kind of enjoy my fantasy leagues and go

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<v Speaker 3>through the whole draft process. So I've been busy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right, good. I am coming to you listeners

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<v Speaker 1>once again, like last week, from my closet. And I

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<v Speaker 1>explained this last week. And we don't spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time on our on our personal lives in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we should do more in the off season especially,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But as I said last week, I've

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<v Speaker 1>moved into this new house in Utah, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have furniture yet, and so all the rooms are empty

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<v Speaker 1>and echoey, with the one exception of my closet, because

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<v Speaker 1>there are there's carpeting, there's clothing, and so I am

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in my closet. Kent, you can see it because

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You've got video right here. There's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>non zero chance that my wife's under things are in

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<v Speaker 1>the background somewhere. I don't know. Hopefully that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll find we'll find out, I guess. But yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's if it sounds a little bit different, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>in the closet. But Kent, no such constraints for you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, my office is just about as small as a closet,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a little bigger. So hopefully that goes not

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<v Speaker 3>too bad in here either.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna I think it's gonna go great,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're excited to have you here at the your

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<v Speaker 1>real life job as data scientist. And I think what

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<v Speaker 1>I loved about having you on last time, as we

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<v Speaker 1>in a serious vein, is you you love grinding up

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<v Speaker 1>data and a lot of times, you know, our opinions

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<v Speaker 1>mean something. I test means something. You and I are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have an eye test different difference of opinion later

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<v Speaker 1>in the show. But I love when people can find

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<v Speaker 1>ways to validate their arguments with statistics data. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna put me to shame, Kent. I am not

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<v Speaker 1>a data scientist. I'm just I'm just Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, at the end of the day, Fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>Football is a case environments. So I think any predictions

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<v Speaker 3>that are going to be made on the show come

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<v Speaker 3>with a lot of variants, and you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of fun to kind of grind the data

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<v Speaker 3>and pull in you know, trends and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of injuries trades, weird things that happen every year, so

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<v Speaker 3>it can fall apart very quickly. I just like doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of fun. But yeah, we'll go back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth on it, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a deal. What the they are are primary.

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<v Speaker 1>Primarily today we're going to talk about best ball players

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<v Speaker 1>you and I've You've done I know many best ball drafts.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done several. Although now that I'm in Utah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is something I really hadn't hadn't thought given a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of thought about I can't play basketball in Utah. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Utah is a legal state. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I have not tried because I've been so

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<v Speaker 1>busy with my move, But I think I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I can play from here. I don't think. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Utah is a state. Now. Fortunately, I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>near the board of both Arizona and and Nevada, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can drive like forty five minutes and go scratch

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<v Speaker 1>that itch.

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<v Speaker 3>Go right across the border, pull your phone out, do

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<v Speaker 3>a couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Of exactly That's exactly. When I was living in Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to drive all the way to the border

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<v Speaker 1>of Iowa. So you know, that was almost two hours

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<v Speaker 1>to get there. So this is is in that regard

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<v Speaker 1>that's better from a sports betting standpoint. But I could

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<v Speaker 1>play best ball in Minnesota. It's it's absurd that every

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<v Speaker 1>state is different, right, So some states you can do

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<v Speaker 1>best ball and betting. Some states you can do betting

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<v Speaker 1>not best ball, some you can do best ball not betting,

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<v Speaker 1>and some you can do neither.

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<v Speaker 3>And they can't seem to make up their minds about

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<v Speaker 3>what way it should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think I know, but we can. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think our listeners probably know where I stand on this.

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<v Speaker 1>We've identified are for each of us are three most

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<v Speaker 1>undervalued and overvalued players for best ball in particular. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're putting on a lens of a best ball And

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<v Speaker 1>tell me kent for you. When you're talking best ball

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to redraft, Dynasty, higher quillotine, or any other

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<v Speaker 1>format that you like, what are the things that that

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<v Speaker 1>make it, that make that go into your best ball

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<v Speaker 1>decision making that's different from the other formats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So one thing that I like to think about

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<v Speaker 3>a lot is you know, if am I going to

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<v Speaker 3>have a tough time deciding to start this player on

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<v Speaker 3>a weekly basis. In a redraft league, I might avoid them,

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<v Speaker 3>but in a basketball league, you don't really have to

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<v Speaker 3>think about that. Yeah, you know, you're just aiming for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, overall points, but also spike weeks where they're

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<v Speaker 3>going out and scoring three touchdowns or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So high scoring offense is definitely come into play quite

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<v Speaker 3>a bit if you're looking for guys that are going

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<v Speaker 3>to contribute in the scoring column. So that's probably the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest difference, is you just want those high upside guys,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of asymmetrical upside, because the lowest thing can

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<v Speaker 3>go well, I shouldn't say the lowest. I've seen negative

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<v Speaker 3>scores technically, but yes, for the most part, the lowest

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<v Speaker 3>score is zero. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, for me, this is almost like taking

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<v Speaker 1>everything I look for in a guillotine league player and

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<v Speaker 1>just reversing it. I'll just do the opposite of all

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys. You know, we are looking for higher

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<v Speaker 1>variance players. We are looking We don't ding players for

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<v Speaker 1>being as in for being inconsistent as much. We want

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<v Speaker 1>players where if things break right, they have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to be league winners. Who want more lottery ticket guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in some cases backup runners have more value.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about a lot of those, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those different best ball opportunities as we talk through our

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<v Speaker 1>undervalued and overvalued players. Ken, let's start here. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start with overvalued players, and I would like you to

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<v Speaker 1>go first and talk about somebody that you're not taking

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<v Speaker 1>at ADP.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So this is gonna be an interesting one, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know that we may come come to come to

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<v Speaker 3>blows up this one, but Bucky Irving is gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>my first selection for overvalued. I want to make one

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<v Speaker 3>thing very clear right up front. I love Bucky Irving

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<v Speaker 3>as a player. He's a great player. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>great rookie season. He's on a great offense. This all

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<v Speaker 3>sounds rate, but he's currently going at the twenty second

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<v Speaker 3>overall pick on underdog drafts and that's RB nine. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be your running back one almost certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>unless you do some kind of running back running back

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<v Speaker 3>double up up top. But he's got a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>equity going into that draft selection. So you know, last

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<v Speaker 3>year he was drafted a round fourteen fifteen. He was

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<v Speaker 3>one of those lottery tickets we were talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and the scoring that you got out of him was

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<v Speaker 3>immensely valuable because you were able to spend such a

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<v Speaker 3>late pick on him. But this year, if you're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>second maybe third round, if you're absolutely lucky, is the

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<v Speaker 3>only way you can actually get him on your roster.

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<v Speaker 3>So the biggest thing for me is that this Tampa

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<v Speaker 3>Bay Buccaneers offense is bringing back a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 3>and then also brought in an additional receiver, so they

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<v Speaker 3>have a good stable of running backs, you know, regardless

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<v Speaker 3>of there's been you know, qualms about Rashad White as

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<v Speaker 3>a lead back, and that's understandable. But last year you

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<v Speaker 3>did see them begin to go in more of a

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<v Speaker 3>three headed drag in kind of deployment system where they

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<v Speaker 3>were using all of them interchangeably. Even though Bucking Irving

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<v Speaker 3>was the lead and getting a lot of work, they

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<v Speaker 3>were still rotating in Rashod White, still rotating in Sean Tucker,

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<v Speaker 3>who had a couple of big spots back last year.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, frankly, all these guys did very well.

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<v Speaker 3>By the advanced metrics that I looked at. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>step that I used called rushing yards over expectation, which

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<v Speaker 3>basically takes into account you know where they are on

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<v Speaker 3>the field, what the scheme is like, and a variety

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<v Speaker 3>of different attributes for that individual down and says they

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<v Speaker 3>could run for three and a half yards, but they

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<v Speaker 3>ran for five instead, so that's one and a half

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<v Speaker 3>more yards. Yeah, And so you know, all three of

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<v Speaker 3>these guys were positive last year, and if we're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at just between the tackles, Bucky Irving was technically the

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<v Speaker 3>lowest of the three. Sean Tucker was at one point four,

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<v Speaker 3>Shot White one point one, and Bucky Irving ato point

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<v Speaker 3>eight over expectation. So again, they all were good, and

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<v Speaker 3>Bucky Irving was just the least.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, But that's also just between the tackles.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, sure, totally and I totally understand that he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the lead back in his backfield. The question

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<v Speaker 3>is how much is he going to be on the

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<v Speaker 3>field if they are going to rotate through Rashad White's

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<v Speaker 3>technically a better pass blocking running back. You know, on

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<v Speaker 3>seventy nine pass blocking snaps, White is just seven pressures

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<v Speaker 3>in one sack last year and Bucky Irving on only

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight pass blocking snaps allowed four pressures and three sacks.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that could go quarterbacks are largely responsible

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<v Speaker 3>for when they're they're getting sacked on a pressure or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's still a somewhat telling that that was able

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<v Speaker 3>to occur on a much lower amount of snaps. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're probably going to trust them a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>less than Rashad White. And then you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>they drafted I Mecha Agbuka and he's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to you know, hopefully contribute very early on

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<v Speaker 3>in his offense. He's super awesome receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think he will be a contributor,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't I don't necessarily see that is a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing. I like, I feel like this is a

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<v Speaker 1>rising boats thing. If you if you just put more

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<v Speaker 1>and more weapons on an offense, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's more trips over the fifty yard line, more trips

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<v Speaker 1>into the red zone, more trips at the stripe where

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Irving is gonna get paid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I guess you're gonna hope that he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have a ten plus touchdown season. That would be one

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<v Speaker 3>way that he could pay off.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny had an eight touchdown season last year. Didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>start games until halfway through the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally true. But again, it's just that that cost associated

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<v Speaker 3>with it that I think is the biggest hang up

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<v Speaker 3>for me. And you know, I'm not saying I won't

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<v Speaker 3>draft him if he does fall to the third round

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<v Speaker 3>and I have a good, you know, maybe running back

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver setup. He's an awesome dude to take us

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<v Speaker 3>your second running back, I'm totally in on that. But

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<v Speaker 3>if he's your first running back, I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>steer clear and maybe go for more of a like

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<v Speaker 3>zero or beat type build or something like that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's just it's just expensive. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's the biggest reason. Love the player, hate the cost.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you and I. You and I are different on

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<v Speaker 1>this and and we'll see if we have other differences.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Bucky Irving part of its eye test to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's I think he is the hardest running

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<v Speaker 1>full time back in the NFL right now. The metrics

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<v Speaker 1>are eye popping. You know, you gave some of the

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<v Speaker 1>down metrics, I'll give some of the up metrics on

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky Irving. He finished third in avoided tackle rate among

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<v Speaker 1>players at least one hundred and twenty carries, a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent avoided tackle rate. He finished at five and

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<v Speaker 1>a half yards per carry, and his third down conversion

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<v Speaker 1>rate was eighty percent, which was highest than the highest

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<v Speaker 1>in the league among NFL starting backs. There's I just

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<v Speaker 1>I think this guy is. I think Bucky Irving is

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<v Speaker 1>a special player. I'm happy to get him at his

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<v Speaker 1>at his ADP, which is where is his ADP again?

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<v Speaker 1>Right here?

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<v Speaker 3>I had him at twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Over twenty two, yep, twenty two running back nine. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's light he's going to be. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put on my first rankings the year next week, I expect,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's gonna be. He's gonna off the

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<v Speaker 1>board in Bestball at running back nine. On underdog. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna have him closer to running back five.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is just one they use. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>and I yep, I think you and I are just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna gonna agree to disagree on that one. My overvalued player,

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<v Speaker 1>my first overvalue player, a guy was nervous about for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Fantasy Football Weekly Is last year. This

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<v Speaker 1>one comes a big surprise to people. Joe Mixon, his

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<v Speaker 1>ADP is fifty, He's running back fifteen, and here's my quibbles,

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<v Speaker 1>Kent and feel free to jump in anytime. Houston's rebuild

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line tons of question marks. They were awful last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They ranked thirtieth in run block win rate, they were

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh in Pro Football Focuses run blocking ranking, and

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<v Speaker 1>all they did to improve their starting rotation they turned

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<v Speaker 1>away Laramie Tunsel. And I don't blame him for that either.

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<v Speaker 1>He was as overpaid as a player as there was

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. But they backfilled him with Cam Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>who you'll remember the Jaguars traded for a ham Sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>to the Vikings. The Vikings started him only because they

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<v Speaker 1>had to, and then in this offseason the Vikings let

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<v Speaker 1>him walk, and then they signed Cam Rombinson at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be his third team in two years. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the other part that worries me about Mixing was

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<v Speaker 1>how you know, he started off the season really well,

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<v Speaker 1>got heard, came back still look pretty good, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he just he just ran out of gas last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had two thousand, three hundred career touches spanning eight seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to turn twenty nine years old in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months, and I'm just worried that the end

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<v Speaker 1>is here for Joe Mixon, and I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>it is Kent because the offensive line was so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of back sort of struggled last

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<v Speaker 1>year behind this Houston offensive line. But I'd kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rather get out a year early than a year too late.

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<v Speaker 1>Last six games of last year for Joe Mixon Kent.

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<v Speaker 1>He drooped to twenty ninth in rushing yards over the

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<v Speaker 1>last six games of last year, thirty first in yards

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<v Speaker 1>per carry at just three point four, which is miserable,

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<v Speaker 1>and he dropped a twenty fifth and avoided tackle rate,

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<v Speaker 1>which you can't blame on the offensive line. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just worried. I think I'd rather get out a year

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<v Speaker 1>early on Joe Mixon, and I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>year to get out. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not going to fight you too much on

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<v Speaker 3>this one. He's kind of at the age cliff. He's

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<v Speaker 3>at the touch cliff, like you were talking about. He

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<v Speaker 3>saw a big reduction in kind of his value last year.

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<v Speaker 3>The offense overall had a lot of struggles. Even CJ.

0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Stroud himself is not free to blame in this offense.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's tough. The only saving grace is that

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<v Speaker 3>he really has no competition. I don't think that anyone

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<v Speaker 3>is going to step up and steal a ton of work.

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<v Speaker 1>That is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, if you truly want the volume, you can

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<v Speaker 3>take it. But again, you talk about that upside, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he has much.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to your next over valued best

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<v Speaker 1>ball player. Who are you going with for your second?

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<v Speaker 1>Your second guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna go with Tyreek Hill. This one just

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<v Speaker 3>feels too easy right now. Honestly, he's going twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 3>overall wide receiver thirteen. You know, he was drafted as

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<v Speaker 3>a top five wide receiver for years, and he's not

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<v Speaker 3>much lower than that, despite having a truly horrific season

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<v Speaker 3>last year, at least for his case. And he's thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one years old, frankly, I mean, he's getting up there

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<v Speaker 3>in age. Even though he is, you know, a slighter fellow,

0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.520
<v Speaker 3>he's able to probably handle that a little bit better

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<v Speaker 3>than some of the slighter receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Slighter fellow, slighter fellow.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's a little whispy guy out there. He

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<v Speaker 3>runs fast and that's part of his deal. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>last year he was wide receiver thirty three in PPR

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<v Speaker 3>points per game, and you are not happy if you

0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.000
<v Speaker 3>get that out of him this year. And as far

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<v Speaker 3>as I remember, he didn't even have any truly explosive

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<v Speaker 3>weeks either. It was like, you hope he got a

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<v Speaker 3>touchdown just so you could have a normal fantasy week

0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.080
<v Speaker 3>out of Tyreek Kill. So you know, this is another team,

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<v Speaker 3>the Miami Dolphins, that has some offensive line issues. That's

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting rough shape. Yes, yeah, Toronto Arstaid is retired.

0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.440
<v Speaker 3>They signed James Daniels, which is an okay signing, and

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<v Speaker 3>they drafted Jonah seven Aya. I think I'm saying that right.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope I am in round two. But their offensive

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<v Speaker 3>tackles are two guys named Patrick Paul and Austin Jackson.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll give you a bonus points if you can

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<v Speaker 3>tell me how good they are. But they're just league

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<v Speaker 3>average at best, and they're gonna have a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>issues getting this offense moving, kind of similar to the

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<v Speaker 3>Houston issues over there. But yeah, in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>career lows in yards per route run, yards per target,

0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.920
<v Speaker 3>yack after the reception PFF for receiving grade, and he

0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:48.080
<v Speaker 3>tied his rookie season touchdown total as well, but he

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<v Speaker 3>had forty more targets in twenty twenty four, So that's

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<v Speaker 3>a low for me. It was tough, and if you

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<v Speaker 3>had him, you were not in good shape. And frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>at wide receiver thirteen, I'm not interested. I'm I'm tapping

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<v Speaker 3>out probably on the Miami Dolphins. Dolphins offense in totality

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<v Speaker 3>at their current prices. We may talk about that a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more in a bit, but uh, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I had Tyreek Hill on my list until I saw

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<v Speaker 1>he was on your list, so I was also going

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<v Speaker 1>to do Tyreek Hill, and I think there's, uh, there

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.320
<v Speaker 1>was there's a lot of good reason for that. For

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that you've you've outlined here. Not touching him at twenty

0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.280
<v Speaker 1>fourth overall wide receiver thirteen, I don't even know. I

0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I you know, the whole two situation as well, is uh,

0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.359
<v Speaker 1>there's just to me, there's just, uh, there's just too

0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.840
<v Speaker 1>much risk here for Tyreek Hill at that price point.

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<v Speaker 1>My next over valued player is Marvin Harrison Junior, going

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<v Speaker 1>off the board at pick number twenty eight, Wide receiver sixteen.

0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, at that ADP kent you he people are

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<v Speaker 1>assuming he's going to get way way better in year

0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.840
<v Speaker 1>number two, and I'm not sure that's a safe assumption.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he does. I hope I'm wrong. He will

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<v Speaker 1>be better next year. I think there's you know, almost

0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>certainly be better, but so much better that he should

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.040
<v Speaker 1>be going off the board at the twenty eighth pick.

0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.240
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't even close to the twenty eighth receiver last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, what we saw last year, to me

0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.840
<v Speaker 1>was really troubling. And he was Pro Football focuses wide

0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.439
<v Speaker 1>receiver thirty five. He ranked thirty fourth in yards. He

0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:30.119
<v Speaker 1>had one more yard than John Neusmith. That's it, thirty

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.760
<v Speaker 1>seventh in yards after reception. He had two point four

0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.600
<v Speaker 1>yards after reception among wide receivers that was thirty seventh.

0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.879
<v Speaker 1>That kent two point four yards after reception. You were

0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:44.760
<v Speaker 1>getting you're basically getting tackled and falling forward at that

0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.080
<v Speaker 1>point to get your two point four yards at the

0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.840
<v Speaker 1>point of the catch. He finished worse than wide receiver

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:56.119
<v Speaker 1>forty seven different times last year Marvin Harrison. So you know,

0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he needs to get so much better from the verse

0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>we saw last year to live up to ADP twenty

0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.080
<v Speaker 1>eight that I don't think Marvin Harrison can get there,

0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'd have felt better if they'd added a second

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver opposite side of the field that was going

0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:14.000
<v Speaker 1>to take some of the defensive pressure off Marvin Harrison.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Zay Jones. That doesn't even count. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am out on Marvin Harrison at ADP twenty eight. What

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think the only thing I'll say here is

0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.800
<v Speaker 3>that you know, he had eight hundred and eighty five

0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:32.120
<v Speaker 3>yards and eight touchdowns. That's for a rookie season. Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we for the longest time had this

0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 3>like third year breakout kind of strategy for wide receivers.

0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 3>We waited a few years, we let them develop. Marveson

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<v Speaker 3>Harrison Junior certainly was seen as a top flight prospect.

0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's got the name, the family value there,

0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.520
<v Speaker 3>and honestly, he had a really great prospect profile. I

0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.359
<v Speaker 3>think it was just kind of a tough fit in

0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Arizona offense. You know, he's a lot better in kind

0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.440
<v Speaker 3>of the contested catch situations. Like you said, he would

0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.240
<v Speaker 3>catch it and fall forward as pretty much all he

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.199
<v Speaker 3>was doing. But they need to get him moving on

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.640
<v Speaker 3>a little bit different routes go a little bit more laterally,

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 3>try and make some space for him in the scheme,

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 3>and I think things could go a little better. I

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 3>agree with you, I'm probably not going to be drafting him.

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:20.080
<v Speaker 3>I do remain skeptical but hopeful about his year two

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:21.240
<v Speaker 3>and beyond progress. Though.

0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope I'm wrong about Marvin Harrison Kent. I hope

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.560
<v Speaker 1>he has a great season. Let's go to your third

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.359
<v Speaker 1>and final over valued best ball player.

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is another price point problem, and it's Colston Lovelin,

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.240
<v Speaker 3>the new rookie on the Chicago Bears, drafted even before

0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Tyler Warren, which I think was a shock to many people.

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.439
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not everyone, but those two guys were certainly seeing

0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.040
<v Speaker 3>as the top two tight ends in his draft class.

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<v Speaker 3>He's being drafted at one ten, so we're looking at

0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.760
<v Speaker 3>the ninth round roughly and tight end nine. So people

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.160
<v Speaker 3>think he's ready to step in and be a tight

0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 3>end one the top twelve tight ends for this season.

0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not so gung ho about that. You know, he's

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 3>probably gonna be a good player, but if you're expecting

0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 3>anything like what Brock Bauers did last year, you're going

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 3>to be gravely gravely disappointed. Uh and he had roughly

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.600
<v Speaker 3>the same ADP last year as Loveland does. This year

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.159
<v Speaker 3>brought Bowers. So I think a lot of people are

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of riding on those coattails a little bit and

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:24.200
<v Speaker 3>thinking that Loveland could do something similar. You know, Cole

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Comett is still in this offense. They're gonna use a

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 3>lot of twelve personnel. Ben Johnson, whose new in town,

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 3>loves Dude's twelve personnel. They were third most in the

0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.640
<v Speaker 3>league last year for the Lions, that is thirty two

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 3>point two percent. So Cole Comette's gonna be on the

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:42.119
<v Speaker 3>field too. They're gonna, you know, utilize probably both of

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 3>them in the one tight end sets as well. So

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.639
<v Speaker 3>if you're getting more than seventy percent snaps out of Loveland,

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 3>I'd be shocked. I think he's gonna be more of

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:56.320
<v Speaker 3>those middle percentages. And you know, going back to twenty ten,

0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 3>only six instances of tight ends in their rookie season

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.439
<v Speaker 3>had more than ten PPR points per game in their

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 3>rookie year. So yes, I don't I don't particularly believe

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 3>that Loveland is going to be the guy to do

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 3>like what Brock Bauers did or anything remotely similar. We

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 3>need we still need to see it from Caleb Williams

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.399
<v Speaker 3>on his Bears offense before Yeah, I can trust you know,

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.439
<v Speaker 3>the third, fourth, fifth option on this offense. Who knows

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:22.200
<v Speaker 3>right now? They still have a lot of good pass

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 3>catchers there, so it's gonna be very interesting. But yeah,

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Titan nine, I will not be drafting Colston Loveland this

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<v Speaker 3>year unless he dips considerably.

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<v Speaker 1>The I'm with you one hundred percent on everything you

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<v Speaker 1>just said. Let me give you another another example. We

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 1>all assumed Dalton Kincaid would just mow down Dawson Knox,

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and for two years that hasn't happened. You know, we

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.440
<v Speaker 1>saw flashes where he looked better than Dawson Knox, but honestly,

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's almost a timeshare between those two for

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>two straight years. And Kincaid had first round equity as well.

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know the other thing about Bowers is Bowers

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 1>on a team where though there was nobody else to

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>even get the ball to, Chicago's got so many more options.

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Everybody thinks Romadoonza it's sitting on a big season that

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna break out. They added Luther Burden, They've got

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.160
<v Speaker 1>DJ Moore. You know, they've got so many other weapons

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to funnel their offense to their rookie

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 1>tight end the same way the Raiders did. So I

0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 1>think that's a I think that's a great call in

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Colston Lovelin. All right, my final guy that I'm using

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>is my over valued best ball player is T Higgins,

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And a little bit like you said with Bucky Irving,

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I wanna be really careful here. T Higgins a good player.

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I like him, and you know, but I don't know

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that he's going off the board at pick twenty three. Overall,

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know that any guy who's not who's

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the number two receiver on his own team Kent should

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.120
<v Speaker 1>be going off the board at his position at pick

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>number twenty three. And so this is entirely a conversation

0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 1>about ADP. Like you said with Bucky Irving, he just

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:03.919
<v Speaker 1>stands in that long, deep shadow cast by Jamar Chase,

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:08.120
<v Speaker 1>who had one hundred and seventy five targets last year,

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.919
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty five of the year before. You know,

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>there are just some games where there just aren't enough

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>balls to go around. For T Higgins, he was under

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty yards and one third of his games, and he

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>topped eighty eight yards just two times. He's very, very

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>touchdown dependent. Now, now granted, in best ball touchdown dependent

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:26.679
<v Speaker 1>is not the end of the world. I mean, you

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>can you know that is okay to have those spike

0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>touchdown weeks. That is all right, but it picked twenty three.

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to have just more consistency than what I

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna get out of T Higgins there at

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 1>that price point. So that to me is that's my

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>case against against T Higgins and as my third over

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>valued best ball player. Kent your thoughts.

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, And now that he's got his contract, he's gonna

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 3>stop trying. He earned his money and he can just

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>give up and sit on the bed. No, I'm just kidding.

0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I don't hate this one. I will probably

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.639
<v Speaker 3>consider it the only The only thing that makes him

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 3>less draftable for me, even though he is a good player,

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 3>is that it's really tough to get a Bengals stack

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 3>with all these three guys being very expensive in price.

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.439
<v Speaker 3>So it's definitely one of the tough ones to do.

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 3>And like you said, if he's the second option on

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 3>the team, you gotta hope you well, pretty much. If

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 3>you're not in the top you know two slots, you

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>might get Chase, but most likely you are not going

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 3>to have Chase. So that means you just got Higgins

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 3>and Burrow. I'm not in on that, so uh yeah,

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 3>that that's a fine call out. But he's a good player,

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 3>He's just he's just a little pricey, and so are

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 3>his other very rich compadres.

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, when we come back, we're gonna give you

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>six players we love at their price point. So we've

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>got kind of negative here ken to start this show.

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 1>We're going to turn things around and look for some

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>positivity and identify three each of our favorite best ball

0:25:52.520 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>value players when we come back. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly,

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Paul Jarchian, Kent, why wreck with you as well? Kent.

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>We've started with the negative side, players that were nervous

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>about at their price point. Now let's go to players

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're excited to draft and in many cases will reach,

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>will reach for and I will once again, I'll let

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you go first. Tell me who, tell me who you're

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 1>targeting in best Ball.

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this is an interesting one, and honestly, I

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 3>was a little bit on offense about it. But I

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 3>decided to go with my gut and throw it on

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 3>the list. Anyway, Okay, I'm gonna go with Michael Pennix Junior.

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 3>And this might come as a surprise to some people.

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's pretty cheap right now. He's one hundred

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 3>and forty fifth overall QB twenty one. Yeah, very very yeah, exactly.

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 3>So it's very easy to be undervalued when you're when

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 3>you're that cheap. But one thing that's very interesting is

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 3>that the Atlanta Falcons have the fourth easiest strength of

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 3>schedule this year based on the win totals at Vegas

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 3>as calculated by Sharp Football. So if we have an

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>opportunity for Penix to come into this offense, get motivated,

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.959
<v Speaker 3>have some wins under his belt, and really develop as

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 3>a passer, this is an opportunity for him this year.

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Kirk Cousins is technically on the roster. I think it's

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 3>very likely that he's traded at some point. I think

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 3>he is overall resigned from the idea of playing for

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 3>the Atlanta Falcons anymore. I think I could be wrong

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 3>on that, but that does feel like the undertones right now.

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 3>You know, Kirk has expressed that he wants to start

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 3>in this league still, and I think that, you know,

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe the Steelers, with Aaron Rodgers drag and his feet,

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 3>maybe they just say, you know what, forget you're We'll

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>go get Cousins. He'll be able to play for us.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 3>We still have a decent roster less one wide receiver

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>in George Pickens who's now gone. But regardless, back to

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 3>the Falcons Pennix. You know, in his third start last year,

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 3>which was the last three weeks of twenty twenty four,

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 3>he had three hundred and twelve passing yards, two passing

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 3>touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. That was twenty six fantasy

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 3>points roughly to be And what league format you're in

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 3>and all that, but that is a higher single game

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 3>total than Drake May, Trevor Lawrence, C J. Stroud, which

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 3>we talked about his struggles last year. Those three guys

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 3>are all going ahead of him right now. And he

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 3>played just three games. Now, granted it was Week eighteen,

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 3>and granted it was against the Carolina Fans.

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty big asterisk right there.

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 3>But that is a big aster risk and I will

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 3>accept it. But you know, he's got some exciting value

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 3>to him and they're bringing back essentially the identical offense

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 3>from last year, Drake London, Darnell Mooney, Kyle Pitts. You know,

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 3>we're all gonna convince ourselves once again that Kyle Pitts

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 3>has an opportunity. But it's a good pass catching group

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>and you know, be John Robinson at Tyler Lgier at

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 3>the running back position. It's a great offense. So okay, okay,

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 3>pretty good?

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, pretty good.

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I'll go now I want an adjective on there. Pretty good.

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 3>But I think this is a good opportunity for them

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 3>to have the entire offseason to work together. They can

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 3>review the film from last year, talk about what didn't work.

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>He can step in as the starter. Kirk is still

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.959
<v Speaker 3>technically there for now to you know, mentor him as

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 3>much as he might feel compelled to. But you know,

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 3>I think this is a good year for Michael Pennock junior.

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 3>And like I said, it's the cheap value where I'm

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>going to swing for one of those guys that could

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 3>have like a top ten upside type of season if

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 3>he steps into his prospect profile. And at Washington he

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 3>was averaging three hundred and forty one passing yards a game.

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>So this guy can sling it, and I'm hoping that

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 3>he can step into the Falcons offense and sling it too.

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 3>And the best part, you know, talking about making those

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>stacks and cheaper ADP. This is not a Bengal situation.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Drake is sixteenth overall, Darnold Mooney is ninetieth, Kyle Pitts

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 3>one forty six, and Ray Ray McLeod who you know,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of a throwaway last pick type guy. But if

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 3>you have a stack going fee, feel free to add

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 3>him to the list. And you've got a nice little

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>stack here that could make you some money if it

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 3>does step up into something slightly better than pretty good.

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we're hoping for that. I just I think

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 3>it's an interesting case where a lot could go right

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 3>and then things turn out really well for him.

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>That's Michael Penix, I the guy, the out of the

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>guy out of that Falcons offense, a guy I'm targeting.

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been targeting Darnell Mooney because he's the you know

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>this big play speed and you know he did. He

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 1>does give you the bigger variance than obviously Drake London does.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But I like I do, I like them. I like

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the Darnell Mooney side of it at ADP ninety more

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>than I like paying the Drake London at sixteen, for sure. Yeah,

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 1>all right, my first undervalued player is my favorite sleeper

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>from last year, and so your listeners are gonna be like,

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>oh charge, Here he goes again, reminding us that he

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>nailed his favorite sleeper last year. Yeah, that is kind

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of happening here too. But he's still undervalued. And it's

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Khalil Shakir, the Buffalo wide receiver currently going off the

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>board at pick eighty one, wide receiver forty five. What

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't even make sen That is a calculate to

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>me at all. So last year for Khalil shakir breakout season,

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>he jumped from forty targets the year before to one

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred targets. He went from thirty nine receptions to seventy

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>six receptions. And Shakir's really good among receivers with more

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>than fifty catches. He finished number one in yards after

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>catch last year eight yards after catch, and that was

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>no fluke. Last year, when I was trying to make

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>my case for Khalil Shakir to be the last pick

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>of your draft, he was third in yards after catch

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>behind Deebo Samuel and Tyreek Hill. I mean, that's awfully

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>good company. And this year he's number one. Coming out

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>of last season, they get the Bills liked him so

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>much they gave him a four year new contract, so

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously they believe in him. And he's the number one

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>target for the first quarterback being taken in Best Ball

0:31:55.760 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>drafts Josh Allen. He had just two drops last year out.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Shakir is not bulletproof. I mean, you know, there is

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>a reason he's going at wide receiver forty five, and

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that's mostly because it's a lot of short stuff. You know,

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>typically in Best Ball you want some explosiveness to your game.

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>His a dot was just five and a half yards.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the shortest in the league. He is

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>not an end zone target guy, just a ten percent

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>end zone target rate. But you know, he had the big,

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>big move last year Kent where he got so much

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>better than Khalil Shakir was the year before. You know,

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>if he gets just incrementally better this year, I think

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.479
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see the touchdown the touchdown numbers go up,

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and the explosive plays go up, and I think Khalil

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Shakir is simply better than the forty fifth best fantasy

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver.

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna fight you too much

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 3>here because he is so cheap. My only commentary would

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 3>be that, you know, the Buffalo Bills. I don't know

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>if you saw the deal with Brandon Bean talking about

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 3>drafting receivers or not, and how that's an ordeal amongst

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 3>the fans, but you know they did go get Elijah Moore,

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 3>that they have Joshua Palmer there now they might have

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 3>some kind of a platoon system. Yeah, I know, I'm

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 3>not They're not.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Touching a guy. They just those guys are not touching

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.239
<v Speaker 1>a guy. They just gave fifty million dollars too.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 3>I trust me. I totally agree he's going to be

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 3>the top guy on this offense. But they were the

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>number one scoring offense last year and they did something

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 3>similar with their wide receiver group last year, so you

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 3>know that that'd be my only argument. But again, he's cheap.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to push too much here.

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to your number two undervalued best ball player.

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna go with Alvin Kamara, And honestly, it's

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 3>tough because he's getting up there in age two. I

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 3>talked about Tyreek Hill earlier, and we talked about Joe

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 3>Mixon getting up there in age I think again, another

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 3>slightly fellow, if you'll allow me to use the phrase

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 3>once again.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>How many slight fellows are there in the league?

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Now, Well, there's just at least two, at least two.

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>But you know he he's been drafted as the running

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 3>back twenty one and last year he was running back

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 3>six in points per game and he'll had eight total touchdowns.

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Now that's been a kind of a trend for a

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 3>few years. He hasn't had those big touchdown seasons like

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 3>he did. Yeah, don't if you remember Becking, what was

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 3>that twenty twenty dropped? Was it six against the Vikings?

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Five or six? Yeah, that was hard to get out.

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I got I got knocked. I lost a fantasy championship

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and that was a Saturday. I'm in the fantasy I'm

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>in a Guillotine League fantasy championship, might I add? You know,

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 1>so you make it all the way through seventeen weeks

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of cuts, you're in the championship game and it's over

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday when your opponent starts. Alvin Kamara it was

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>still best.

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 3>You were just going to the week like I've lost,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 3>even though I have my entire roster left the play

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>for the most part. But you know, regardless of that,

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four was his highest scrimmage yardage total since

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty So he had fourteen hundred and ninety three

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 3>scrimmage yards. That was the eleventh most in the league

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 3>last year behind Devon Ah Chang, who you know, he's

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 3>being drafted as running back seven right now, and that's

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 3>a pretty stark difference in cost. Now, granted he had

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 3>a few more touchdowns and all that, but you know,

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that Alvin Kamara has a good opportunity to

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 3>repeat his usage. The Saint sign Clyde Edwards a Laire

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 3>drafted a sixth rounder in Devin Neil.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, I like, you know, we've and Thorn and I

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about this just last week. I believe we both

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>think Devin Neil is a really intriguing player to uh

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to target near the end and it might be the

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.919
<v Speaker 1>very last pick of your draft. Uh. You know, if

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>if you think Alvin Kamara and you're right, last year

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.439
<v Speaker 1>he looked good. I mean, Kamara still looked a lot

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>like the player we've seen. But if you just feel

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>like this is this might be the beginning of the

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>end for Alvin Kamara. Devin Neil brings the table pass

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 1>catching chops, interior running chops, super good footwork. He's he's

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a really intriguing player and and there's something to be

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>said about at a minimum, hancuffing those guys. So just

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a quick aside on Devin Neil before we should just

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>throw him away here. I think there's, uh, there is

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>something to like about that kid.

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, only come you know. The only thing I'll

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 3>say is he was a sixth rounder, so you know,

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 3>at least maybe give him some time to acclimate to

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 3>the NFL that that the NFL told us what they

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 3>think about him. He could outperform that for sure. But

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 3>and like you said, you can add him in the

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 3>back of your draft if you want to go with

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 3>a handcuff situation. Yeah, totally agree. But you know, as

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 3>far as his main competition, I think Andre Miller is

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 3>still the guy that you're the most worried about, but

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm not. At the end of last season, he was

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 3>truly horrendous. Head In a final two games of the year,

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 3>he had eleven rushes for eighteen yards on the ground.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 3>He had three receptions for thirty two yards. But it

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 3>was really bad. And honestly, I don't know if you

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 3>know this. Last year Kamara rushed sixteen point three times

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 3>per game, which was the second highest in his career.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So you put you but Kent. We could use that

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 1>both ways, right, You could be like, look, we're just

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>we're adding more hits onto an already what is he

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>in his seventh year something like that at least, Yeah, yeah,

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're adding yet more hits and more workload

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>onto that frame. And you know that's you know that

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>might that might have end up that workload from last

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>year might end up working against Alvin Kamara.

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:04.879
<v Speaker 3>Well, And that's kind of what I was going to

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 3>lead into here, is that he historically has thrived on

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 3>limited yet valuable touches. He's you know, obviously a really

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 3>great receiver, probably one of the best receiving running backs

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 3>in the game right now or the last decade or so.

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 3>He's done a very good job catching the ball and

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 3>making yardage out of that. So I think that he

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 3>still has an opportunity to land in a twelve to

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.240
<v Speaker 3>thirteen rush four to seven reception range that he's always

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of done, and that's a reduction from last year,

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.839
<v Speaker 3>but it's enough to get those high value touches if

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 3>he can have any kind of upsing on touchdowns, which

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, might be asking a lot if Derek Carr

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.280
<v Speaker 3>can't play, and that's something we're yet to be determined here,

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 3>but I think maybe this is a little bit kind

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 3>of galaxy brained, but Tyler Shuck draft pick might be

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 3>a sign of confidence for Derek Carr being able to

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 3>play at the beginning of the season. They really don't

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 3>have a lot as far as a starting quarterback on

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the roster. Spencer Ratler and Ja Hayner are non starters.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Do not have the confidence to put those guys out

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 3>there week one, And I don't think Schuck's the guy

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>you want playing week one either. You've probably sit him

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 3>down for a season and develop them up a little bit.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 3>So if Derek Carr does start, this offense is again

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 3>not great, but still decent, good enough to score some touchdowns.

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 3>And if Alvin Kamara has little to no competition for

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, this year, at least I'm all in running

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 3>back twenty one, that's pretty affordable and if he can

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 3>repeat last year and maybe throw on another touchdown or two,

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 3>that's that's making money right there.

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>My second undervalued basketball player is Vikings running back Jordan Mason.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>His ADP is one hundred and six running back, thirty

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>four off the board. They're thirty two NFL team, so

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the top backups going and correctly so.

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>So there's not a lot of times where I can

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about Kent like personal experience where you know, I

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>talked to a player. I worked the official Vikings draft

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>party and Aaron Jones is there and I asked him.

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I asked Aaron Jones about his role in this offense,

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and he said he's going to yield short yardage carries

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to Jordan Mason. So you know, right from his mouth,

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>we know that Jordan Mason is going to get those carries,

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>and it makes sense. Aaron Jones from inside the five

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>yard line last year thirteen carries, negative two yards and

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just three touchdowns on the thirteen carries. That's terrible. So

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>here comes Jordan Mason. We know he's a good interior runner.

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>He weighs twenty pounds more than Aaron Jones. He's his

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>career average is five point three yards per carry. Granted

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm relatively light workloads because it's it's he's a young player.

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Remember the Vikings traded to get a Jordan Mason, so

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>they gave up equity to get him, so obviously they

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.959
<v Speaker 1>like him. He's not going to be somebody who's gonna

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>catch a lot of passes. But Jordan Mason is going

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 1>to bring every week one touchdown, two touchdown, maybe even

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>three touchdown offense unless JJ McCarthy's awful, and that.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Is oh well, well, don't let thor hear you say.

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I know right exactly. I think JJ is gonna be good,

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.920
<v Speaker 1>but maybe I just want him to be good. But

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I think JJ is going to be good, and Jordan Mason,

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know he's got He's going to be the touchdown

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.799
<v Speaker 1>guy in this offense. You could make the opposite side

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of this is I feel like in best ball especially,

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you can't touch Aaron Jones. He could be sitting on

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a three four touchdown season and that would that would

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>really worry me, even at his depressed ADP. I think

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't touch Aaron Jones, who, by the way, thirty

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>years old and has a history of getting dinged up.

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Although he played all the games last year for the Vikings,

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>but that again, that might work against him at age thirty,

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 1>that he was given such a big workload. So we're

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>going to see a lot of Jordan Mason this year,

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'm buying at ADP one h six.

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, earlier I mentioned, you know, rushing back excuse me,

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.919
<v Speaker 3>running backs, rushing yards over expectation. Jordan Mason was third

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:52.399
<v Speaker 3>per attempt last year. He's good.

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 3>He's good at football, and you know, I'm glad we

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>got him in a deal that was relatively cheap from

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.839
<v Speaker 3>a Vikings perspective, so that should be a good one

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 3>to punch in Aaron Jones and Jordan Mason. I was

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 3>a little surprised to see how high his ADP came up.

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I was hoping it would be a little cheaper me too,

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 3>But I do understand why people are excited because he

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 3>has had the juice every time he touched the ball

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 3>last year. So it's a lot of fun, that's for sure.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a chance that he's better than Aaron Jones and

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that that this roles are gonna flip flop in Jordan

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Mason at some point in the year, and maybe sooner

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>than later he turns into the Alpha Jones turns into

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the change of pace guy and the passing down guy

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.439
<v Speaker 1>because Mason can't catch there is it goes that way.

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, your final undervalued best ball player is somebody

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to use, but you had already picked him.

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So let's go agree on Juwan Jennings.

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, Yeah, I'm glad to do it again talking

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 3>about someone who's he's wide receiver thirty seven right now,

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:54.479
<v Speaker 3>ADP sixty six, So he's very affordable for a guy

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 3>who put up some really impressive numbers last year, and

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 3>now the Deebo Samuel's gone. Brandon Aiyuk, there's still some

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, floaters in the air about him potentially being traded.

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of tenuous conversations going on

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:09.320
<v Speaker 3>in the forty nine ers building around him. You know,

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 3>Ricky pearsall who showed flashes last year and the year

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 3>really strong, but he played more, you know, I would say,

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 3>an average of seventy percent of the snaps and was

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 3>mostly invisible for a lot of those games. So you know,

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:22.840
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the year he turned it on

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 3>a bit that might translate to the entire next season.

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 3>But I have a feeling that's probably going to be

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 3>a trend that continues. He'll have games where he's there

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 3>in games where he's not. Juwan Jennings, on the other hand,

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.760
<v Speaker 3>he was there every game. Yeah, he was performing outstanding

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 3>and on among the forty nine ers pass catching options,

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Jennings was second in receiving yards per game, just Bryank Kittle,

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 3>first in red zone targets, second in receiving touchdowns behind Kittle,

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 3>second in yards per route run behind Kittle, second in

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 3>PFF receiving grade behind Kittle. Yeah, and then of course

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 3>first in targets of twenty plus yards, which is you

0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 3>know something that I don't know if you recall this

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 3>is a while ago now. When he was coming out

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 3>he was a seventh rounder. He had a really slow

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 3>forty times. It was like a four to seven four

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>or something like that, and he had some off the

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 3>field stuff to really tank his stock. But he has

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of opportunity to work on his route tree.

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 3>He's got pretty good hands. He's putting it all together.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 3>In the last year was his fourth year, entering his

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 3>fifth year. Now, he's really brought himself up to a

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 3>level that's been quite impressive as an NFL receiver. And

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 3>he was a transition out of quarterback in high school

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.320
<v Speaker 3>into receiver in college. So he's twenty seven and a

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 3>half years old, roughly. It took him a little while,

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 3>but I think he's figured it out. And fun fact,

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 3>this is a great fun fact. I absolutely had to

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 3>bring this up. Juan Jennings is the second player in

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl history who threw and caught a touchdown, joining

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 3>who else but Nick Foles, Yes, Chars.

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Philly's Company special of course.

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep, you know he's and he's six three, two twelve.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 3>He's got really kind of rare size these days, as

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, the NFL gets smaller and quicker, both on

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 3>the wide receivers and the cornerbacks. It's nice to have

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 3>a guy who, you know, despite his concerns for his speed,

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 3>is able to create separation, catch the ball with confidence,

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 3>turn get up field. He could stand to improve his

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 3>yack ability a little bit. That's probably his most glaring

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 3>fix that needs to happen. But he's likely going to

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 3>be the top receiver on the forty nine ers offense

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 3>this year. I think that's I think too.

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I think so too. I just love him. You know,

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>some guys are just players. And Juwan Jennings he loves

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.720
<v Speaker 1>to block, he loves to hit guys. He loves physical play.

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>He's big, he's a bully. I just I love the

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>way he plays. I think Kyle Shanahan does too. And

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>I agree that he's going to lead the forty nine ers.

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>And given his ADP of wide receiver thirty seven, I'm in.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm in. That's a that is a you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's gonna be a great San Francisco offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll be a good San Francisco offense and I

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<v Speaker 1>can get the best receiver at wide receiver thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>pick sixty six overall, I'll take it for Juwan Jennings.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Our last player to be covered in this show,

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<v Speaker 1>My final undervalued best ball player is David Montgomery. ADP

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<v Speaker 1>is picked seventy two, running back twenty four. Hey, Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like touchdowns?

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 3>I've enjoyed them from time to time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no touchdown enjoyer. Yes. If I told you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>David Montgomery is going to lead the NFL in rushing

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns in twenty twenty five. Is that a plausible statement.

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<v Speaker 3>Plausible Yes, for sure, Yes, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean that's not it is absolutely in the realm of possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's running back twenty four in Best Ball. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know the Lions love to run the ball near

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<v Speaker 1>the stripe, and that's not going away with Ben Johnson.

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Dan Campbell is going to do. That's a Dan camp

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that if Dan Gambele is he is going to punish

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you at the stripe. The Lions over the last two

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>seasons have ranked number one in rushing attempts from inside

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<v Speaker 1>the five yard line. And they've done that without having

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback doing the tush push to inflate those stats,

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>having Josh Allen do inflace those stats. Jared Goff's not

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<v Speaker 1>running the ball from the three yard line, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>they're running backs. And more Montgomery than Jamiir Gibbs and

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<v Speaker 1>the other side that I like about Montgomery, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown upside, which in Best Ball we do. We

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>want touchdown upside. We want those explosive games where David

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Montgomery gets you two or three in a game, which

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<v Speaker 1>which he's done many times. But if anything God forbid

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>were to happen to Jamier Gibbs. You've got a top

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<v Speaker 1>five running back for your best ball team, so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a ton to like at David Montgomery at eightp. Seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. Are you with me on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Ken, Yeah, I think the biggest challenge to David Montgomery

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<v Speaker 3>scoring a touchdown inside the three is Jumior Gibbs scoring

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<v Speaker 3>it from inside the ten. I think that's the biggest

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 3>challenge because they're going to score, it's just a matter

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<v Speaker 3>of who it's going to be. And honestly, I'm on

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<v Speaker 3>Rossain Brown's a great red zone threat as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, They've got Yeah, they've got so many they

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<v Speaker 1>have so many players that there's gonna be variants with Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's best Ball. We're embracing the variants here, Kent.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yes, absolutely, yeah, I'm in on that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you said, so, I don't there's no visual component

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<v Speaker 3>to this particular podcast right now. But I raise my

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 3>eyebrows when you said what his price tag was. I

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 3>had not even looked at that one specifically yet, so

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<v Speaker 3>that that is honestly a very very affordable price point.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to buy in on the potential for

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen touchdowns. Yes, if you want to, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to go towards that route.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if Montgomery plays a full season of seventeen games,

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I think he is sitting at that twelve thirteen, fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>to fifteen sixteen touchdown range because it's just it's such

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a good offense and we know they're going to run

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the ball. So yeah, David Montgomery, our final guy. Thank

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you listening. Everybody had great job. I'd like to have

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<v Speaker 1>you this time. I have you back in next week.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe. Yeah, or.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, spoiler alert right now. Every everybody thought it

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be ten months and then you'd come back

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and they'd all be pleasantly surprised next week or well,

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>cats out of the bank. We'll have you back next week.

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I'm trying to remember what what's our? What

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:24.399
<v Speaker 1>is our? What are we talking about? Next week?

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<v Speaker 3>We are breaking down the divisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're going to start our divisional breakdowns. Right,

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>so we're we've got uh, we've got I believe six

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<v Speaker 1>shows or is it three shows? I think trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remember we're doing two four show We're.

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<v Speaker 3>Going, uh direction, Yeah, that is it, NFC East first

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<v Speaker 3>around the Horn.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to highlight notable changes and offenses for each

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.439
<v Speaker 1>of the divisions beginning next week with Ken. Stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>for that, everybody, and thank you for listening. Fantasy Football

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