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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season forty five, Episode

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Speaker 1: one of Dirt Daily Night Guys for Monday, August twenty

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Speaker 1: at two thousand eighteen. My name is Jack O'Brien a

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Speaker 1: kay oh Brian, and I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: always my co host, Mr Miles The Grape that was

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Speaker 1: my best attack. It was as good as yours ship. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're a rich gray and you've gone to my house

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Speaker 1: because I know it don't matter. As I gang, you

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Speaker 1: can't rely on the Orange Man's money. You can't rely

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Speaker 1: on the Orange Man's money. Thank you to Master Yoda

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Speaker 1: or Kolda at Joseph Race for that. You know. Hold

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Speaker 1: on Notes Inspired aka my favorite band. One of them

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Speaker 1: was really good. It was at least partially courtesy of

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Speaker 1: the Grape Stopping Lady, but also Jamie Loftus who unintentionally

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Speaker 1: did the lady during focal guest. And we're thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined. Oh yeah, wait are you your by Jamie?

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Speaker 1: Like this? Hi? Hi the great Happy birthday. Yeah it's

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Speaker 1: a birthday, but she'll always be little damned to us.

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to be old, but would be. The

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Speaker 1: thing piece that comes out is like is it time

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Speaker 1: to start calling little Zam. There's no there's no period

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Speaker 1: where I'm just Sam nor no hell no, Jamie, to

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us the night after your birthday,

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Speaker 1: I MFB day hangover him here, Yeah, and we're thrilled

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Speaker 1: to have you. We're going to get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better. But first we're gonna tell our

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Speaker 1: listeners what they're in store for on this Monday morning

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Speaker 1: edition of the Day Guys, Good Morning Wake, We're going

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Speaker 1: to check him arts to what people are reading, listening to, viewing, googling,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the things people still googling. Yeah, people

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Speaker 1: still googling. People always googling. Uh. Then we're going to

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Speaker 1: check in see what Rudy had to say yesterday I'll

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Speaker 1: meet the press with Sleep Chuck Todd and it was

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Speaker 1: he's a master of words. We have to give it

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Speaker 1: to him this point. He may have not done himself

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Speaker 1: this week. He also looks like I was saying to

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Speaker 1: Miles this morning, he looks like the Men in Black villain,

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Speaker 1: who is just bugs wearing a skin suit, like it

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Speaker 1: looks like his face is rotting off of his so

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Speaker 1: the bug for Men in Black. He's wearing a Rudy suit. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mistakenly called him Edgar and someone on Twitter correct.

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Speaker 1: He's like, it's actually a bug wearing Edgar's skin, so

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Speaker 1: it's like a Frankenstein's monster kind of. Don't, Rudy, your

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Speaker 1: skin is hanging off your bones. I'm optimistic that there's

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Speaker 1: a better face underneath that one. And once this one

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Speaker 1: just drips off, there's a hot man in there, handsome

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Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani. Uh. And we're going to be joined by

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Speaker 1: right wing watches Jared Holt, Jarrude uh. And we're also

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Speaker 1: gonna try and diagnos ours, like guys, try and figure

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Speaker 1: out what our quicksand is in the third act that

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Speaker 1: will make sense at the end. But first, Jamie, we'd

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guest, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history that is revealing about who you are? I

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Speaker 1: was on one yesterday yesterday was my birthday, and I

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Speaker 1: was just forcing people to do things they didn't want

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Speaker 1: as like I want to get a dunkin Donuts right now,

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Speaker 1: and then I went there and then I was like,

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Speaker 1: I want to look at snakes at Petco, And so

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Speaker 1: I looked at snakes at Petco because I'm I feel

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Speaker 1: so some search history snake owner bonding. How can you

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Speaker 1: how can you tell snake gender? Can you bring my favorite?

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Speaker 1: Can you bring snake out with friends? What's the answer

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Speaker 1: to the last one? The last one is a really

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Speaker 1: owner Reddit board is very sad where they're like, you

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Speaker 1: And then one guy was like, I'm moving out of

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Speaker 1: my neighborhood because of the snakes steak. They're too much

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Speaker 1: snakes come on, which is like kind of a hymn thing.

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Speaker 1: But can you bring snake out with friends? Yes? But

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Speaker 1: at what costs? Yeah? Really? But I appreciate what you're

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Speaker 1: like a little snake, like a little bino, like I

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Speaker 1: know what then happened to it. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I've seen her in a minute, and

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Speaker 1: to get a snake as a life partner. I hate

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Speaker 1: when people pimp their pets out on Instagram the app

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Speaker 1: and then when you see them together in person, they're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's my snake. Whatever. Yeah, It's kind of how I

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Speaker 1: am with my kids their Instagram props. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: I also wonder if life expectancy is different, like little

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Speaker 1: albino snakes might not last quite as long. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like we would be like my snake died, right,

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Speaker 1: away in your right. Oh, we don't talk about what happened.

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Speaker 1: feed it live rodents, No, I'll feed it pretty frozen.

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Speaker 1: That was the one thing where I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't watch the snake hunt. But my favorite part

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. Snakes don't like when you watch them eat,

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Speaker 1: they're like, I love it. A snake for brand high

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Speaker 1: like snake is compared to Ariana grand Days. How many

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Speaker 1: are you on the ground? Dais with the snake that

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Speaker 1: snake could eat on and but don't touch it? Well, Sam,

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Speaker 1: what is something that's overrated? Overrated? This is a fun

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Speaker 1: Bechdel Cast shout out. My overrated would be watching The Matrix,

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Speaker 1: because I've never watched The Matrix, and some listeners went

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Speaker 1: and it is psycho. I'm just very quietly piggybacking on everything. Caitlyn, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's like Trinity is the female lead, and like yes,

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Speaker 1: they're like, Jamie, did you like the Matrix? And it's

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Speaker 1: like hard to know. A bunch of shaking on magic

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Speaker 1: in a way, it probably would really change the way

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Speaker 1: know why. I finally watched Hackers in full. The Matthew

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Speaker 1: and Hackers cannot read. There's several scenes where he'll ask

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Speaker 1: subtweeted at all weekend? Why watch it when you live it?

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Speaker 1: John Patrick Shanley's Twitter account. John Patrick Shanley is a

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Speaker 1: Pulitzer winning playwright of Doubt, My Favorite Movie, My favorite play.

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Speaker 1: He has a wild like it's just like old guy Twitter,

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Speaker 1: every day. It always attaches like a dusty j pet

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Speaker 1: a selfie look good night, I guess night. The most

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Speaker 1: appropriately named person ever. Like when you look at his picture,

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Speaker 1: John Patrick, like, if you showed it to me, I

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Speaker 1: would probably somehow be inspired by God and I would

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Speaker 1: be like John Patrick Shanley, Oh I love yeah three

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Speaker 1: a New York boy, he's a theater man. He dusted

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Speaker 1: off his Pewlitzer found an old asked oil painting of

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Speaker 1: a woman waking up and then fires off another one.

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Speaker 1: Let me see good morning from from JPS. I really

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Speaker 1: love my good mornings and my good nights from John Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Shanley M. You should get blocked by him. I should,

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Speaker 1: or just be really into it that he's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: tweet it is good morning and good night to say

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Speaker 1: thank you. John loved doubt. Yeah, and oh. The myth

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Speaker 1: so that's not good, and especially now that she is

424
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: being implicated and domestic violence. Right. So, and then I

425
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about a trend I'm seeing on Google.

426
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: That makes me want to tell everybody to try harder.

427
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: Where the number one search over the weekend was Nick

428
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: Jonas because he had a big party, an engagement party,

429
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: and like that was the thing last week. The big

430
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Speaker 1: search last week was one of the generous for turning one.

431
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Speaker 1: So we're now just like googling people whose parties we

432
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: wish we had gone to or something. I do like

433
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Speaker 1: that we've reached that part of dystopia of like I

434
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: just want to see pictures of party, Please show me

435
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: Google party. Well, it just helps you escape whatever your

436
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: own situation is, right, Like that's why you know, like

437
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: pretty soon motherfucker's are just gonna be wearing VR headsets

438
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: and like leave me alone, right right, I don't want

439
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: to exist out of whatever is actually well, I genuinely

440
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: think that that's why, like astrology has had such a big,

441
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: like resurgence in the past year or so. It's just

442
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: like good old fashioned escapism of like people just need

443
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: things to feel nice about. Nick Jonas had party. Good

444
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: for him. On the fifth, I will meet someone who

445
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: will change my life. Unless there are pisces, keep them away,

446
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: keep them away, they're danderus. Hey, speaking of someone who's

447
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: going to change your life. We've got Jared on the blower.

448
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a break. We'll be right back

449
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: with Jared Holt from right Wing Watch. And we're back

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Speaker 1: and we are joined by Jared Holt from right wing Watch.

451
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Speaker 1: What's up, Jared? Hey, thanks for having me back. Oh anytime.

452
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: It's our pleasure, it's our privilege to have you on.

453
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Speaker 1: So you are going to tell us about the ale

454
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: Jones saga, your involvement there with what what what happened

455
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: with this Alex Jones character. I think our audience knows

456
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: who he is, but tell us how you got involved. Yeah,

457
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: So it's been a pretty rough couple of weeks for

458
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: Alex Jones and the Info Wars staff. A lot of

459
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: prominent social media platforms like Facebook, YouTube, what else. It's

460
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: hard to think of, like what he is still on? Yeah,

461
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean he tried to go onto video right and

462
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: he got booted off video God. Yeah, I think it

463
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: was you porn or porn hub or something kicked Alex

464
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: Jones off because they tried to do what these gun

465
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: channels did on YouTube, where they went over and started

466
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: uploading to porn websites. Um, but there are only so

467
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: many videos of gaping assholes that people can stand. Oh yeah,

468
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: And this kind of got kicked off a little bit

469
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: by accident by me. I was on Spotify one day

470
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: looking at the podcast section and I happened to cross

471
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Speaker 1: Info Wars on Spotify, and then shortly after, Alex Jones

472
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: had tweeted out a link to his Spotify a page,

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00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: and that alerted me to more info Wars podcasts that

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00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: we're on the platform. And as somebody who has my

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00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: own podcast, plug real quick. Uh but uh, I know

476
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: that getting on Spotify can be a little bit tricky

477
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: if you are a smaller podcast. So I thought it

478
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: was weird that info Wars had been able to get

479
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: on seemingly without a hitch, and I tweeted about it,

480
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: and then that sort of added into you know, like

481
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: years long frustrations and work of other progressive groups that

482
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: have been demanding that social media platforms and forced their

483
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: terms of service on info Wars when they seemingly have

484
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: been reluctant to do so for so long, right, um,

485
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: And that kind of snowballed. It was amplified by groups

486
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: like Sleeping Giants and you know, here we are today,

487
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: weeks later and somebody as somebody who researches this kind

488
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: of stuff for a living, it's actually had this weird

489
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: inverse effect where it's become a lot harder for me

490
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: to find what I need to find just because it's

491
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: not on anything. Right. Yeah, So what what do you

492
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: see sort of the future of all this stuff going?

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00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: Because yeah, but for people who don't know, I mean,

494
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: you've been on the show before, but your expertise in

495
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: the area of sort of keeping tabs on what the

496
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: right and super right wing groups are up to on

497
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: the internet and stuff like that. You know, I know

498
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: that he has the app and stuff like that, and

499
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: nutraceuticals are like half off, but like, where where do they?

500
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: Where do they go from here? I mean the thing

501
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: was Alex Jones was able to exist in the capacity

502
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: that he was for so long that he has you know, thousands,

503
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: if not millions of dedicated hardcore listening is that will

504
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: jump through the hoops to try to find info Wars

505
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: broadcast wherever they are online. Um, but what this did

506
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: was take in full Wars out of the sort of

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00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: mainstream online uh you know discourse if you will, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, has sort of mitigated the harm that bad

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00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: actors like Alex Jones have on the information space. I think,

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00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, info Wars is trying something with Snapchat right now, Um,

511
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: they have their app, which is popular in the App

512
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Speaker 1: Store at the moment, but I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: in weeks to come, we'll see that fade as the

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00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: Streisand effect begins to wean down. But explain what the

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00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Streisand effect is? Yeah, yes, yeah, it goes back to

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Speaker 1: I guess there was some thing where like Barbara Streisand

517
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Speaker 1: didn't want people to know where her house was, and

518
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: because it became like a big public ordeal of like

519
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: do not look up my house, everybody went to look

520
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: up the house. So I think I think info Wars

521
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: is having sort of a similar effect where it's like

522
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: they're putting out these claims like this is the broadcast

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00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: that nobody wants you to see. So there's sort of

524
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: like a natural gravitation towards it, I think with some people.

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, given what I know about in

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00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: w Wars, having watched nearly every broadcast for the past

527
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: few years, it's hard for me to imagine that like

528
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: your general Joe Schmo, who you know, gets curious about

529
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: info Wars and starts watching it is going to stay along, like,

530
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: stay around very long because a lot of it is

531
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: just so outrageous. So, if you're watching info Wars every day,

532
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: how do you self care? Do you go on walks

533
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: or do you what do you do? You go to

534
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: the gym? What? How do you take Yeah, how do

535
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: you take care of yourself? Well? I take three capsules

536
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: of info Wars Brainforce plus and that really clears my mind. Um,

537
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: is there something that we as people who have not

538
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: just been streamlining info Wars content like, wouldn't expect about

539
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: info Wars that you know, based on that horrible thing

540
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: that you've done for our sake. Something that a lot

541
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: of people don't know is that Alex Jones actually has

542
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: like a bootleg radio station or network rather uh so,

543
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: and he's also syndicated on a lot of talk radio shows.

544
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: His whole thing is that the ad blocks where he's

545
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: normally selling his brain pills that helped me maintain a

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00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: good work life balance. Uh you know, he gives that

547
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: space to broadcasters. So essentially he makes it to where

548
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: if you're a radio station and you pick up the

549
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Alex Jones show, you get free content, and you get

550
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: those ad blocks um entirely for your own for tisers.

551
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: So he doesn't make money off of that. It's just

552
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: him being like, I need more people to believe my bullshit,

553
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: so I'm going to give it out there for free. Yeah,

554
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: he because I mean, the self professed uh mission of

555
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: info Wars, right is that there's a war on your

556
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: mind and information war and if you will, if you oh,

557
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: info is short for information. Okay, we're breaking all kinds

558
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: of news on this show right now, and then it

559
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: makes a lot more sense when you Yeah. So he

560
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: like his vendetta is to like get his word out

561
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 1: and sort of create this alternate reality um that he

562
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: can then lure people into and then sell the products

563
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: or get donations or you know. It used to be

564
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: like ad revenue, but they're advertising. People dropped them recently.

565
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: So ultimately, like Alex Jones wants to get info Wars

566
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: into the mainstream, and I think, you know, he's willing

567
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: to take a loss in a lot of ways to

568
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: do that. What do you think about the whole free

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00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: speech argument that came up out of this. I know,

570
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: like there were some liberals who are like, oh, this

571
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: is dangerous, like this could make him stronger on the right.

572
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, this is censorship, Like, you know,

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00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: nothing he's saying is dangerous. Well, how do you you know,

574
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: obviously you that's a that's a defense that many people

575
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: on the extreme far right, uh employe are deployed to

576
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: defend themselves. What what's your how do you sort of

577
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: look at that? And what's what's the talk amongst you

578
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: guys at right wing watch about all that? I mean,

579
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: it's not really a free speech issue because Alex Jones

580
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: is still allowed to talk his say he just you know,

581
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: isn't allowed to publish on these platforms that have established

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00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: rules for uh user conduct, and uh, you know, I

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00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: don't think that's a free speech issue, but it is

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00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: interesting because it sort of praises this bigger discussion I

585
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: think about, like how much power is invested in these

586
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: private companies online and uh, you know how these social

587
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: media companies like that. This is different because it's a

588
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: very clear violation of the rules they set out and

589
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: Alex Jones does a lot of harm. Like the Sandy

590
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: Hook parents that are suing him now had to move

591
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: around a lot. His lawyers tried to make their addresses

592
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: public so that they could be put out to the

593
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: info wars fan base. You know he's doing he's wrecking

594
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot of harm, and that's not a free speech issue.

595
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: But it is interesting to think that you know, Facebook, Twitter, Google,

596
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: whatever could essentially just lights out somebody's speech based on

597
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: their bottom line or at the whim of their executives.

598
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: So I think that's sort of a different, but like bigger,

599
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: important conversation about how much power we give tech companies

600
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: and like whether or not they should be regulated. Um,

601
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's an important, interesting conversation to have.

602
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think that you know, this censorship free

603
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: speech argument necessarily works here. I find a lot of

604
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: people that make this argument don't bring up what Alex

605
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: Jones has actually done and said, yeah, the thing that

606
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: finally got a banned from Twitter was telling people to

607
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: get rifles by their beds and get ready to fight,

608
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: like people who you know are anti info war. So

609
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: like he they were like, oh, that's an incitement to

610
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: actual literal violence. Like that's not really a metaphor at

611
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: that point. And I mean, yeah, with the free speech thing,

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00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: these are public companies, right, and so you know, if

613
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: they have user terms that are like you can't say

614
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: anything bad about Facebook or we'll bang you, and they

615
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: start banning people because they say something bad about Facebook

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00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: or one of the political parties or something, Uh, then

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00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think they would be rightly attacked in

618
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: the media, and you know it would be bad for

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00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: their bottom line or at least this is how the

620
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: system is supposed to work. But like, as of right now,

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00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: their terms of service are don't like incite acts of

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00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: violence on people and don't like try and harm people's lives,

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00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: which is pretty down the middle. A lot of this

624
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: feels like if we like revisit stories like this in

625
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: a couple of years, it just seems like laws that

626
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: don't exist yet and like policies that don't exist, where

627
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: like there's all this like noise and dissonance between like

628
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: social media companies and how they operate and like how

629
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: they regulate their users, and it's it. I feel like

630
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: at some point there's got to be some sort of

631
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: like policy put into place that can I don't know,

632
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: just like give at least a yardstick of like here's

633
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: what is a couple here isn't because it just like

634
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: doesn't make Yeah. I mean some politicians want them regulated

635
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: like utilities like their water or electricity or something like that,

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Speaker 1: because it's just, you know, a thing that they think

637
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Speaker 1: should be taken for granted. But just a lot of

638
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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's just a lot of blind spots.

639
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Speaker 1: So Jared, what do you think? You know, a lot

640
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Speaker 1: of people were like, oh, well, this is this is

641
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: gonna make Alex Jones stronger by doing this, Like it's

642
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: going to really rally people up. After like looking at

643
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and and still watching what

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Speaker 1: what what's the assessment of the state of the Info

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Speaker 1: Wars empire. Um, they are freaking out, but they want

646
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Speaker 1: you to know that they're not freaking out. It's like

647
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: people that get online and they're like, just so you know,

648
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm not mad, and then they write like ten paragraphs

649
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: say how not mad I am? Yeah. Yeah, they're kind

650
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: of in disarray. A few of the smaller time hosts

651
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Speaker 1: have sort of floated this idea that like they might

652
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Speaker 1: not have jobs soon. Um. I think there's maybe a

653
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: little bit of worry that the info Wars stuff will

654
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: have to downsize. Um, but yeah, they're they're not doing

655
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Speaker 1: so great. I don't. And they're boasting that they have

656
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Speaker 1: like vis Yeah, they're they're posting that they have like

657
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Speaker 1: millions of new listeners. But I can't find anything that

658
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: makes me believe that's the case. A lot of bluff

659
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: seems to be the opposite. Yeah, well, I mean, you know,

660
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Speaker 1: he is a performance artist, so you know, maybe maybe

661
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: he'll pivot on that. They'll have to create a new

662
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: character like a performance. Yeah, what is Alex Jones is Bruno?

663
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: I like to imagine it's like some sort of mix

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Speaker 1: between like post Malone and Alex Jones. Thinking SoundCloud rafts

665
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Speaker 1: the next thing, Jared, it's pleasure having you. Thank you

666
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time, and yeah hang in there. Yeah,

667
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: where can people find you? And you're amazing podcast and

668
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: all the other work that you do. Um, I'm on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Jared L. Holt. I'm writing articles all the

670
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Speaker 1: time for right wing watch dot org, and I have

671
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: my own podcast called ship Post, which you can find

672
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: on iTunes and everywhere else that podcasts are found. Sweets

673
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: would tell people about your show. Yeah, it's a weekly

674
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: digest of just the weird underbelly of Internet culture and

675
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: how that plays out on a larger scale. We have

676
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Speaker 1: a lot of guests on to talk about sort of

677
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: tech culture, news events, um, and it sort of comes

678
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Speaker 1: at it with a I think if it is like

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Speaker 1: a Tabasco sweet, like super deluxe flavor, if you will, Okay, interesting,

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Speaker 1: we're intrigued. Yeah, all right, man, Well thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for taking the time. Yeah, take care. All right,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.

683
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Speaker 1: And we're back and Sleepy Eyes checked, hodd Head, crazy Face,

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Speaker 1: Di Giuliani, Rotta. His soul. You know, he's like Kelly

685
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: and Connaway too. You can tell that they deep down

686
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Speaker 1: their soul knows it's wrong. And there it's just mutiny.

687
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't actually know. Maybe Rudy's doesn't, I don't know. Whatever,

688
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: it's not good to lie. It's not good for your face, right,

689
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: I feel like, and there's no better evidence than on

690
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: his face. I feel like his teeth are going to

691
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: come out and people are gonna be like, oh, that's embarrassing,

692
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: because we all know, like he probably has dentures and

693
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: it seems like he's like almost losing them all the time.

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Speaker 1: But then like the rest of his skull is going

695
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: to come out of his mouth and people are gonna

696
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: be like, oh, no, fan theory, there's a really hot

697
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Speaker 1: guy underneath there, and once his face drips off, the

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00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: flesh starts to fall up. It's like, oh, there's like

699
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Speaker 1: a there's a beauty in the beast situation. There's a

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Speaker 1: hot man in there. Anyways, So what happened Miles? So,

701
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Speaker 1: as Jared was saying at Info Wars, they are freaking out,

702
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: but don't want you to know they're freaking out. And

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00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: I would say that the very same thing is actually

704
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Speaker 1: happening at the White House because we got news this

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Speaker 1: weekend that White House Council Don McGann is actually now

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Speaker 1: a cooperating witness for Robert Mueller. Uh and he has

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Speaker 1: spoken to like around thirty hours or more of basically

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Speaker 1: chit chat with Robert Mueller about what he knows. And

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Speaker 1: they say a lot of this is born out of

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Speaker 1: the fear that Don McGann feels that Trump was having

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Speaker 1: him cooperating talk to Mueller so he could eventually just

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Speaker 1: throw McGann under the bus and be like, no, it

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Speaker 1: was McGann the whole time that was doing all this

714
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Speaker 1: because he's the lawyer. So McGann's lawyer was like, I

715
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Speaker 1: think we should go talk to Robert Mueller so I

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Speaker 1: can tell Robert Mueller I had fucking nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with any of this ship um, And so that report

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Speaker 1: came out thirty hours of so much conversation. That's six

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Speaker 1: weeks of Zeitgeist episodes. Thank you. That's the only way

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Speaker 1: I can think of things. I was just trying to think, like,

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Speaker 1: have we spoken for thirty hours off Mike? You and

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean, people saw what happens we go

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Speaker 1: to respective rooms. Yeah, mine's just the bathroom where I

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Speaker 1: saw and Jack just like weight upstairs. It looks like that.

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Speaker 1: And then Jack started drinking a proteach and just start

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Speaker 1: pace starts doing weird his own bench press, Jim like

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Speaker 1: American Beauties, the garage, Jim and anyway, a lot of

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Speaker 1: time to talk, that's what we're saying. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. And you know the thing is that

730
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Speaker 1: he has a lot to say when it comes to

731
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Speaker 1: the obstruction case, because if they ever, like lack really

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Speaker 1: damning piece of evidence, it would probably come from Domigan,

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Speaker 1: who was the lawyer advising them, and he has an

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Speaker 1: understanding the president's mindset, in the days leading to the

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Speaker 1: firing of James Comey, how the White House handled the

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Speaker 1: firing of Michael Flynn um, how Trump repeatedly braided like

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Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions tried to start control over the investigation. There's

738
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Speaker 1: like a lot of stuff that he knows that if

739
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Speaker 1: he's talking to Robert Mueller, that's a good I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's probably being like, oh, this is great. This is

741
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: like was John Dene who was Nixon's lawyer who kind

742
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: of did the same thing. So, yeah, John Dene and

743
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Speaker 1: Nixon like called him out as a villain and trying

744
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Speaker 1: to use him as a fall guy. And so McGann

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Speaker 1: is specifically, or the New York Times report specifically says

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Speaker 1: that McGann like didn't want to be another John Dene,

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Speaker 1: And so that's why he's doing this because he's worried

748
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Speaker 1: about Trump like turning out, like flipping on it, and like, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why he would think that, because Trump

750
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Speaker 1: has shown such loyalty. Yeah, and he's so calm, and

751
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Speaker 1: as you can tell, the Full Court Press was on

752
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: on the Sunday shows, and like on Sunday, the President

753
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: was tweeting all kinds of weird ship about he said, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: mother's like fucking he makes McCarthy look like a puppy

755
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Speaker 1: or whatever. Bro, you you had the same lawyer as McCarthy.

756
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: First of all, was your fucking lawyer. And also you're

757
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: the one out here pulling people's security clearances. Like that's

758
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: you're you're actually punishing your political opponents anyway. So I

759
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Speaker 1: think suffice to say, they're freaking out at the White House.

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Speaker 1: So deploy agent Juliani to the field because he will

761
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Speaker 1: dead all this ship with his fucking mind game. So

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Speaker 1: this is him on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd

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Speaker 1: and wow, just try and keep up with this this

764
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: logic storm. Look, I'm not gonna be rushed into having

765
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Speaker 1: him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury. And

766
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: when you tell me that, you know he should testify

767
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: because she's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry. Well,

768
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth,

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Speaker 1: not the truth. He didn't have a conversation with this truth.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to go like, I know it isn't truth. Truth,

771
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Speaker 1: That isn't truth. President says, I didn't. Truth is the truth.

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Speaker 1: Mr Merriden, He realized what I thekleman is black. The

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Speaker 1: truth isn't truth. And then he goes on to be like, well,

774
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Speaker 1: the President is gonna say, I don't know what happened

775
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Speaker 1: with the firing James Comy. And then James Comby's gonna

776
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Speaker 1: tell Robert Mller, Oh he did it because of this,

777
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Speaker 1: this and this, and Comy's best friends with Robert Mueller.

778
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Speaker 1: So who do you think he's gonna believe? And then

779
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: Chuck Todd's like, well, maybe what if he just went

780
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: off who's been telling the truth more often recently and

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Speaker 1: use that as his basis determining whose word might carry

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Speaker 1: more weight. And then Giuliani just like, I mean, all

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Speaker 1: the bones in his face came out of his mouth

784
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: for Rudy though, like he really threw his name up

785
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Speaker 1: there with the likes of Descartes and Plato, Aristotle, Thomas

786
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: aquaintas Emmanuel Kant to be like, truth isn't truth? You know, Like,

787
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Speaker 1: what the what? I'm not hungover anymore listening to that

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Speaker 1: three of the fucking roof after that whole where are we?

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Speaker 1: I mean not to mention that Don McGann too, when

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00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: we go back to the things that he knows and

791
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: could have done. He was asked by by Trump to

792
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Speaker 1: be like, hey, can you find here Robert Mullick, can

793
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Speaker 1: you just do that for me because I'm a coward,

794
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: And he was like, absolutely not. I will resign if

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Speaker 1: you ask me to do something like that. We cannot

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Speaker 1: do anything like that. That is horribly illegal and no. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that's when like they eased up on the Mueller

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00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: firing talk. But again, you know, truth isn't truth, and

799
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: that is a great defense when you are again when

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're defending yourself and you're throwing everything you

801
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: got around you that you're running out of things to throw.

802
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Speaker 1: And now we're trying to redefine truth. I just think,

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Speaker 1: you know, truth is. I would just appreciate if Rudy

804
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Speaker 1: Juliani would credit me when he is quoting my tramp stamp.

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Speaker 1: It looks great than I really loved because it's cool

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Speaker 1: because it looks the same way right side up or

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Speaker 1: upside down. It is, Yeah, it is. It's a fully

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Speaker 1: cursed image. The font is it's word Art's word art.

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Speaker 1: Thank you actually know it's truth isn't truth one way

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Speaker 1: and it's upside down and it says fuck you it isn't,

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Speaker 1: which is an amazing bit of word. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Again, it's just a very you know, like

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Speaker 1: it's funny like how the Clinton Lewinsky thing like came

814
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Speaker 1: down to then arguing like what is second on what

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Speaker 1: your definition of is? You know what I mean? And

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00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: now with this, we're going we've whittled it down. We're

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Speaker 1: down to the moment we're like, well, what is truth?

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Speaker 1: What is it though? Is it what actually happened? Or

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00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: is it whose version? Whose lie you would? I don't know, guys, Rudy,

820
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: you've done done it, and it'll be fun to see

821
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Speaker 1: everyone clean up the mess from the inevitable Internet fallout

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Speaker 1: from that comment. So you, guys, I wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: gather around, gather gather around children. Uh So, I wanted

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00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: to kind of put this out to you guys and

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Speaker 1: also to our listeners as more of like an ongoing conversation.

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Speaker 1: But we've talked I think once in the past about

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Speaker 1: how quicksand was like this constant metaphor in the sixties

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Speaker 1: and early seventies. It was like all over the place

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Speaker 1: in movies. I remember that the media called Vietnam and

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Speaker 1: national quicksand, like that was their word for it constantly,

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Speaker 1: Like now we you hear it referred to as a quagmire.

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Speaker 1: Usually that just replaced that with quicksand. That's what they

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Speaker 1: said at the time. Martin Luther King Jr. Used the

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Speaker 1: metaphor of quicksand in his I Have a Dream speech.

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Speaker 1: A reporter asked one of the astronauts who was about

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Speaker 1: to land on the Moon what they would do if

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Speaker 1: the surface of the Moon was quicksand, uh, and just

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Speaker 1: like you think, and people are like, yeah, what about that?

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Speaker 1: So it was just this like national obsession, which is

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Speaker 1: weird because quicksand isn't an actual like thing that occurs

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Speaker 1: in nature. They're like sinkholes and they're places. And I

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Speaker 1: thought it is an actual phenomenon, right of rannular sand

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Speaker 1: that just when there's pressure on it, it just collapses

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Speaker 1: on itself. There is but like you can just like

845
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Speaker 1: step out of it. There's not a thing where you like,

846
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Speaker 1: the more you struggle, the more you fall down. Like

847
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Speaker 1: the more I saw Bear Grills save himself. How you

848
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Speaker 1: but it is my birthday, don't gris for me? But

849
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Speaker 1: I feel like we've sort of edited out of our

850
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Speaker 1: history because it was just it was like it was

851
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: kind of a perfect metaphor for the time, because we

852
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Speaker 1: were this unsuspecting, idealistic protagonist country chugging along and then

853
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Speaker 1: suddenly felt like ourselves get stuck and started sinking. And

854
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Speaker 1: the more we struggled to free ourselves, the faster we sunk.

855
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Speaker 1: In terms of like Vietnam and hippies and just you know,

856
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: great leaders who step up and seemed to make a

857
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: difference getting assassinated. It just seemed like a after like

858
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Speaker 1: all the idealism and optimism of the fifties, it seemed

859
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: like made sense at the time, and then it was

860
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: more like a warning. It's like, I know times are

861
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Speaker 1: good now, but quicksand could be got to be careful.

862
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Speaker 1: It was like suddenly the country found itself sinking. They're like,

863
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: what's happening? We're always right, We're America. I wonder who

864
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Speaker 1: is like the first person to popularize using that as

865
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: a metaphor. They're just like sitting at home, like, what

866
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: have got it? Fast? Yea faster? But now when we

867
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: look back on that, because it's not really a thing

868
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: that's in movies anymore, really a thing that we like

869
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: think about anymore, we've just like kind of edited it out,

870
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Speaker 1: so like we know that it's in some movies and

871
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: TV shows, but like none of those are classics, so

872
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: we just don't think about it that much anymore. And

873
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Speaker 1: I'm curious to like think about what our current moments.

874
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: Quicksand is, like what the metaphor is for this moment

875
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Speaker 1: that when in the future we look back, we're gonna

876
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that was fucking stupid. But like at

877
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Speaker 1: the time, it was just like so omnipresent that we

878
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: just kind of took it for granted and probably not

879
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: makes sense in the future. Yeah, for us, I got

880
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: some pitches. So the House of Cards is like a

881
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: good Quicksand style metaphor for the country because we had

882
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: this facade of everything being great and built up and

883
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: it turns out it's it turns out exactly literally the

884
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: show House of Cards was a metaphor for itself, but

885
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: that does totally worked because that's been a prevalent metaphor

886
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: for decades And okay, good that was my note for that.

887
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Wizards same deal. It was like people were obsessed with

888
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Speaker 1: Wizards for the past couple of decades because of Harry Potter.

889
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: But I feel like that people have been obsessed with

890
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Speaker 1: wizards for a long time and the only thing that

891
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: was new is that they were young. There was like

892
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Speaker 1: someone was like, what if the Lebron James of Wizards

893
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: the Wizards? Yeah, Wizards. Um so my two main pitches,

894
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: but I don't have them fully fleshed out. Crime boss

895
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: or like mafia head slash mobster, because I think, first

896
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: of all, we have sort of elected one to the

897
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: presidency and Trump he's like the head of a crime family.

898
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: They're the stars of our prestige TV shows like Breaking

899
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Bad in the Sopranos. They're perfect metaphor for what we're

900
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: finding out about capitalism, like putting on a good face

901
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, like acting like they

902
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: value the same thing as us, and secretly these capitalist

903
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: overlords are running a criminal organization that robs and murders

904
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: people that yeah, I think just like and shout out lazy.

905
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: The scammer narrative in general is very resonant with our times.

906
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: The grifter, yea America is snake oil. Yeah, America is snake.

907
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: Don't miss snake, but don't tread on the snake. Don't

908
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: tread on snake culture is under attack, and I think,

909
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, mobsters have been around for a while, but

910
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: they also, like when you look at how they behave

911
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: in reality versus the movie depictions, they're not these smart

912
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: people with values and they're usually very simple, disloyal narcissists.

913
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: And so we had to invent all the like great complex,

914
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: smart loyal mobsters that we obsess over. But you know,

915
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: the only thing is, I feel like, I don't think

916
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like quicksand because I think people will

917
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: probably still be obsessed with that going forward. Well, they'll

918
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: always be crimes, and they've been in movies since I

919
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: think a better I mean, I don't I can't really

920
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: think of like a pop culture thing. But I look

921
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: at America as being an old, abandoned theme park where

922
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: fun used to be had and the infrastructure was there

923
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: at one point, but it's all rotting away and no

924
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: one really is that interested in too many deaths in

925
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: the wave pool, no benefits for the workers, they quit

926
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: on the job, and the theme park has been left

927
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: to rot and turn into a big spider party. Yeah,

928
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: or I mean just like post apocalyptic landscapes, I think

929
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: in general, and you know, partially amusement parks if you're

930
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: focusing on the Scooby Doo universe but all around just

931
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: abandoned landscapes. Yeah, I think that could work. Superhero seems

932
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: like an obvious one because they will probably look really

933
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: stupid at some point in the future. But I don't know,

934
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say, Jamie, I think bony overall,

935
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hope. I'm not stepping on anyone's

936
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: toes by saying America Zamboni metaphor. So, okay, so you've

937
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: got the zamboni right, American company. That's good. So the

938
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: ice is getting a little rough? Is the ice in

939
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: the scenario? Who is this US? The national mood? Okay?

940
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: Is the ice. We've been out for a whole period,

941
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: and there were some fights, people skating it up, score scoring,

942
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: but also some fights. A couple scores, a couple of fights,

943
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: and then it's like the ice rough. We need we

944
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: need a break, We need a break, and then it's

945
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: break time, need a snack. Everyone gets off the ice.

946
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 1: Incomes Zamboni. It's America really attractive, cool veh cold war.

947
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: It's cold, like the mood is cold. Every Scott Brentzels

948
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: and fries and zamboni comes out and just smooth that

949
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: we were waiting for a zamboni that's never gonna come.

950
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh got you. The ice is rough and it's just

951
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: the ice. You don't get a second ice, right, you know?

952
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: I think I solved it. Never mind, I don't want

953
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: to hear from anybody else based on all be honest, man,

954
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: that's a no for me. Dogbelieve a little pitchy little

955
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: worthy man. Just get right to it. You know. I

956
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: don't got to go for Brett. Yeah, I don't know.

957
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: I just got some crazy fucking pitch about his zamboni. Ah. Well,

958
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: that was fun, Jamie. It's been a pleasure of having

959
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: you as always. Where can people find? You can find me? Uh,

960
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: Jamie Loft to help on Twitter, Jamie christ Superstar Instagram.

961
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: Listen to Bechtel cast Um and I have a new

962
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: show on Super Deluxe called Robot Take Of Robot take Over.

963
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: If you love hearing her sickly voice, Yeah, the first

964
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I've been getting so much about that. Yeah, the first

965
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: two episodes we filmed when I'm kind of visibly ill

966
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: and I sound very sick, and people are just like, yo,

967
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: what happened? A lot of what happened to her? Did

968
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: Tobasco sweet kill her? Like? What happened? Is her real voice? Wait?

969
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: Regular Jamie is a character, lots of wild theories. Anyways,

970
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: watch the show please, It's on YouTube dot com. And

971
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh, it's hard

972
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: to say that John Patrick Shanley good night tweet, because

973
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: there's one every night. I would recommend uh last night's

974
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: good night tweet where it's a very tired looking John

975
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Shanley's smirking at you saying good night. It's an

976
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: up angle. I think it was a brave of him

977
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: to post this picture. I liked the thing. He took

978
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: the picture by a mistake and this is just a

979
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: picture of how he feels when he does the good

980
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: night tweet. August seventeen, good night tweet? Is is it? Is? It?

981
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Go for me? And that was the one that I

982
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: saw and said, no picture has ever been more appropriate

983
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: to someone's name than that picture. So and also his

984
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: his Twitter is at John J. P. Shanley, which is

985
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: redundant at John J P. John and John John awesome, Miles, Hi, Hey,

986
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: where can people find you? And what's a tweet? You've

987
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: been and oh gosh me follow me on Twitter and

988
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray and Uh a tweet I

989
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: was really liking from Ashley Parker. It just says, approximately

990
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: five hours into family vacation and risk of patris side

991
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: is high. Anyone who's been a family vacase, especially as

992
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: an adult, you start like being like, who the fuck

993
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: is my family? So yes, shout out to you, Ashley. Alright.

994
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: A tweet I've been enjoying from Jabooky Young White is

995
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: Black Klansman spoiler. It is hard to believe that an

996
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: undercover cop went to a KKK meeting and none of

997
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: his co workers were there, which very Zegeist Boots Riley

998
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: just tweeted out a critique of Black Klansman. He is

999
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: the director of Sorry to Bother You. Uh. And you

1000
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: can follow me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You

1001
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: can follow us at daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at

1002
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Speaker 1: the Daily Zekeeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook pam

1003
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: page and a website daily zeist dot com, where we

1004
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Speaker 1: post our episodes in our foot and also find those

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Speaker 1: footnotes in the description of the episode that you're listening

1006
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Speaker 1: to right now. If you just look at more information

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Speaker 1: footnotes or where we link on the information that we

1008
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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode smiles. Yeah. It's also where

1009
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: we link off to the song that we ride out

1010
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Speaker 1: on today. Let's go out on some klie ooches. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This track is not like she had I shas Ant

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Speaker 1: album Ice Lation that's really good. But one of the

1013
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Speaker 1: tracks I'm really liking. It's like a sort of an interlude.

1014
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Speaker 1: It's called coming Home Dash interlude. Uh, and you kind

1015
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: of get two songs for one. I really like the

1016
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Speaker 1: second half of the song. First half is good too.

1017
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Speaker 1: But this is just a little calliaches for you to

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Speaker 1: enjoy on this Monday. Yeah, Happy Monday everyone. Yeah, and

1019
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Speaker 1: I hope you like the new morning availability of the show.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but three of our shows

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1030
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Speaker 1: of our networks to step at the fuck up. Just

1031
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Speaker 1: I like all the s all right, We're gonna ride

1032
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Speaker 1: out on the song that Miles subscribed like, Oh so

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Speaker 1: you don't remember the song? Wow, we'll be back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with you. It doesn't listen to me podcast Jackie started

1035
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Speaker 1: drinking a protein chicken place out Miles. I'm looking back,

1036
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Speaker 1: not thinking maybe I was wrong. I've been so out

1037
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Speaker 1: of place in this for us alone. I wrote about it.

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Speaker 1: Think I made a villain songs for nothing, whatever, no nothing,

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Speaker 1: We have a silver thing, got it coming coming, wants

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Speaker 1: and everyone I ain't as mad as he doesn't love

1041
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Speaker 1: it's just bow go there, put them right, Just take

1042
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Speaker 1: your time, keep conky, won't I don't get it right?

1043
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Speaker 1: Every heart keep ye won't? I know? Stop putting me

1044
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Speaker 1: back with pushing me for keep. I'm all oun pace.

1045
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Speaker 1: Just leave me a love on down to this and

1046
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Speaker 1: don to that. I'm too skinny, I'm too fat, I'm

1047
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Speaker 1: all coocause were a man. I'm the sweetest peas to

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Speaker 1: fall but Son don't like beaches it all. I'm too

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Speaker 1: short and I'm to talk. Keep it cool ever put

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