1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Fish Smallpod. I'm a t Verdall, and 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: today we're looking back at last night's matchup between Hayesus 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Lozardo and Eric Fetti. Has the Marlins faced the Nationals 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: the middle game of their series in Washington ahead of 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: today's closing game of the series at Nationals Park featuring 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: a matchup between Trevor Rodgers and Josh Rogers, who I'll 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: tell you has some interesting numbers. But first last night, 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: haz Lozardo against Eric Fetti. Interesting pitching matchups. You have 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: like a super talented Jesus Lozardo who's just like has 10 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: dominant stuff, and then Eric Fetti, who has a lot 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: of stuff. Truly, he like pitched like a cardinal. I 12 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: guess dissect that a little bit what I mean about that. 13 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: But Eric Fetti, last time he faced the Marlins, he 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: struck out ten. Last night he struck out eight at 15 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: about five innings of work. Yeah, I don't like saying 16 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: it either, but really the story of the game was 17 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. Jesus is Zardo, he was like it's tough 18 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: to talk about, like he was there where he got 19 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: into trouble early was pretty straightforward. Like Ryan Zimmerman took 20 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: him deep in the first time through the order, and 21 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: it made like all the sense in the world that 22 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: like Ryan Zimmerman, this veteran who has seen it all, 23 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: would be able to see through this developing picture, know 24 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: what's coming and then really put a blast on it, 25 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: have an impact squig. That was the damage the first 26 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: time through a solo home run by Ryan Zimmerman. The 27 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Marlins didn't really do much the first time through the order. 28 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Laywan Diaz had a promising foul ball, some kind of 29 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: ugly swing as a missus. Eric Fetti's curveball was really 30 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: working on these Marlins hitters, and like Jesus Sanchez was 31 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: taking big swings but missing. It wasn't until the second 32 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: time through the order but the Marlins got on the 33 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: board with a Leywin Diaz solo home run. He seemed 34 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: to get like a good read on a pitch, a 35 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: good swing on a pitch, and proved his impact that 36 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: it's tough to like look at this Marlins team as 37 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: like one consolidated team at this point. To me, when 38 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm like watching I you're looking at like Hayesus Sanchez, 39 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: Leywan Diaz two like players who entered twenty twenty one 40 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: in TRIPAA. They started out in the mind leagues. Their 41 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: season wasn't built around trying to make it to the 42 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: playoffs that year. They had this other goal first, they 43 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: had to break into the major leagues. So they were 44 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: on like a distinctly different path from like Miguel Rojas. 45 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Despite the fact that they did debut in twenty twenty, 46 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: they still had to break out of that like shell 47 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: of the like the egg that is the minor leagues, 48 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, like pecking like their their Marlin's bill through 49 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: the egg. I'm realizing that fish dew actually like lay 50 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: eggs and marlins are no exceptions. But the last week 51 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Jesus Sanchez and Layman Diaz, who have broken through that shell, 52 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: have really cemented themselves with some just impact swings that 53 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: they are just like still like above that line out 54 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: of the egg. In this one lay when Diaz had 55 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: a second home run totally at that point though it 56 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: was a game not quite within reach, and he did 57 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: provide basically the entire offense for the team. Well. The 58 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: second time through, the Nationals started to like get to Lozardo. 59 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Juan Soto had an RBI, making the game two to 60 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: one at the time, I think, like around the fifth inning, 61 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: the Nationals had scored a run because of Ryan Zimmerman, 62 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: this like uber veteran, this like organizational, like identity guy, 63 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: going back to like two thousand and five. He caused 64 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: some damage and then one Soto had his impact and 65 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: that was it until the third time through the order, 66 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: where Jesu's Lozardo gave up a couple of more runs 67 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: four to one in favor of the Nationals, and the 68 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Marlins weren't able to come back again. The offense was 69 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: limited just to those Lewin Diaz home runs, and Eric 70 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: Fetti kept the Marlins off balance. To me, what I 71 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: saw with him why, I saw him as like a 72 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: like a Cardinals type pitcher. He showed like a developed arsenally. 73 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: He pitched with like five pitches, a couple of different 74 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: approaches with the fastball even and not really overwhelming stuff. 75 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: He was regularly sitting like low nineties, high eighties around 76 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: where like the Cardinals of today are. But he showed 77 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: good pitch sequencing. He was able to I mean, at 78 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: least like the confidence he had. He knew he could 79 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: get these Marlins hitters out, so he was able to 80 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: approach him like that, also approach them with like literally 81 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: what has worked in the past. Some players just don't 82 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: have that benefit in the major leagues of like doing 83 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: what's worked in the past because they just haven't had 84 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: a chance to succeed at all. But Eric Fetti mixed 85 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: some pitches against a Marlins lineup that is like it 86 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: was lacking a vet like a Ryan Zimmerman, someone that 87 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: has seen it all that can then communicate with your 88 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: team what they saw, and they're lacking that like Superstar 89 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: one Soto hitter, So Miguel Rojas having the night off 90 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: for instance. As far as like veterancy on the Marlins 91 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: goes is significant, as far as like winning games. In 92 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: the game last night, there were plenty of swings that 93 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: showed promise from plenty of players in the Marlins lineup. 94 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: There's like absolutely reason to believe that these are guys 95 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: that could put it together, especially over an offseason going 96 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty two. But for now they're still getting 97 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: their first look at some things without that precedent of 98 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: doing what worked before. There's no adjustment to be made yet. 99 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: It's like approve it time. Pair that with a talented 100 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: pitching staff like hayesus Lozardo is still like that guy. 101 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: He was able to go through two times through the lineup, 102 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: only got hurt really by like the guys that you 103 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: think are exceptional on that Nationals roster. The Washington Nationals 104 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: offense clearly is thinner after the trade deadline. They don't 105 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: have as many bats, but like the foundation that like 106 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: knowledge is there, that exemplary hitter is there, they have 107 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: some key positions in place at the plate to rebuild around, 108 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: to rebuild with. Despite their position in fifth place in 109 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: the National League East behind Miami, it definitely feels like 110 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: their offenses in the strike zone, not that hayesus Lozardo 111 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: seemed to be at his absolute best. No swings and 112 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: misses on the kerb ball definitely sets off an alarm, 113 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: not like an alarm so much as be scared going forward, 114 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: an alarm so much as like, hey, this guy might 115 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: be a little inconsistent. It is like the end of 116 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: the year, so fatigue and exhaustion, both of those like 117 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: separately mount up, especially with like trades and like some 118 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: bad days and some needed adjustments, and it's September and 119 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: the baseball hasn't necessarily been going well exactly, so there's 120 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot on the plate and a whole off season 121 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: to really chew it and grow ahead of a twenty 122 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: twenty two where again it looks like not a single 123 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: National League East team will be anything close to a 124 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: laughing stock anyways, Checking quickly in on the miners, Monte 125 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: Harrison had a pretty good game for Jacksonville, got a hit, 126 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: two bases. Really, looking at that box score, it's totally 127 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: like warped from earlier in the year. With so many promotions, 128 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Monte Harrison and some catchers Nick Fortes, Peyton Henry seem 129 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: like perhaps the most inclined to push to the majors 130 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: soon from an actual mile high vantage point, but no 131 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: one in the starting lineup for Jacksonville has an OPS 132 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: over eight hundred. Nick Knighter got the start for Jacksonville, 133 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: did not record an out, allowing, however, for runs the 134 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Norfolk Tide to beat the Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp. That Pensacola 135 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: score is similarly looking warped, with cam Meisener's name at 136 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: the top and leading the leading the team in OPS. 137 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: Ad a good night last night. While looking down the lineup, 138 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: I just can't help but imagine an off season for 139 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: JJ Bleday, that's not focused on conditioning and more focused 140 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: at the plate. How Nicholas, He's got to start five walks, 141 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: five strikeouts in his five innings of two run ball. 142 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Pensacola beats the trash pandas the Bloyd Snappers lost seven 143 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: to two, Troy Johnston's name stuck out as a poor 144 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: hit night for him. Turbuloit and Jordan Hollowag had a 145 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: rehab inning in Jupiter, followed by Luis Felasius start that 146 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: was solid but not quite enough as the Jupiter Hammerheads 147 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: fell two to one against the Port of Saint Lucy Metz. Today, 148 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: the Marlins will face the Nationals again. One oh five 149 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: is the start Trevor Rodgers against Josh Rogers. Like I said, 150 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: Josh Rogers some kind of fun numbers drafting the eleventh round, 151 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty third overall, about thirty six major 152 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: league innings like an eight era overall so far in 153 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, about twelve innings, a three earned run average. 154 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: A twenty seven year old lefty Josh Rogers versus Rookie 155 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: of the Year candidate Trevor Rogers again at the start 156 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: soon for the deciding game of this Marlins Nationals series. 157 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: For the podcast, I Have Been Where Dal, Thank you 158 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: for listening. We'll be back with you tomorrow with another 159 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: episode of The Big Fish Small pud Uh. Daniel Rodriguez 160 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: will have you covered on Today's Action and otherwise here 161 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: on Fish Drives, we will get you covered with all 162 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: things Miami Marlins headed in to an exciting offseason as 163 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: we look forward two. The season is still going on 164 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: and truly I want every win the Marlins can get