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Speaker 1: Thanks the chronic goals. This is not your average shows.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the gainst the Chronicles podcast, the production of

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Speaker 2: rating and comment yo, yo, what's that? Then they ball, we'scribbing.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Shoot the same old man, same old dang man.

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Speaker 2: Another week, another week down the books. This year going

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Speaker 2: fast as hell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get it over which this year is

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Speaker 1: going fast as hell? Was craziest man.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been looking at these houses down at

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Speaker 2: Houston and we recently had like an appraise or just

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Speaker 2: done in her house. You know, you get the pair

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Speaker 2: to sell your house. You kind of want to know

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Speaker 2: where you're at in the market, right right, And they

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Speaker 2: said that our house is worth nine seventy. Now, for

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Speaker 2: those out there listening, nine seventy don't mean I'm rich

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Speaker 2: in California.

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Speaker 1: That's a box. That's a max box, right, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: depending on the county in the area.

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Speaker 3: You live here, you know, that's like a regular hall.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I living down your dog like big dog

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Speaker 2: stuff is up the street from me, like like them

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Speaker 2: two and three million dollars four million dollar cribs on

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Speaker 2: up the street in the Orange States and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, man, it's just the area.

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Speaker 1: You went. Like if you in Beverly Hill somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Man, and you your house a million dollars, dog, you

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Speaker 2: might be in a two bedroom.

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Speaker 1: Right shit a one bedroom. Yeah, you know, it's the area, man.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I was looking at I was

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Speaker 2: looking at down like a folks in Houston they got

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Speaker 2: like six bedroom houses man on like a half an acre, man,

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Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: Man, Like I'm talking about bringing new houses. Yeah, brand

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Speaker 1: new house.

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Speaker 2: Only thing about that though, man, you know, when you

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Speaker 2: think about it, the good thing about it is, man,

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Speaker 2: we can kind of take our work with us wherever

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Speaker 2: we go. I don't know what the job market is

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Speaker 2: like like down there, though, so you know you're the

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Speaker 2: houses are cheap cheaper for a reason exactly. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't think useless economy is bad. I think everywhere

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Speaker 2: is pretty much the same, right now. I know you

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Speaker 2: said you're gonna go ahead. The album finished this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm trying to get in the studio or

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Speaker 3: this service day Friday, finish shu up so we can

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Speaker 3: get some shit moving, you know, just you know, just

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Speaker 3: to do some shit. All people be thinking, you know,

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Speaker 3: niggas be desperate. I guess for income or whatever is why,

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Speaker 3: you know, I guess why they consider legacy or you know,

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Speaker 3: old school artists. She putting out music and but to

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Speaker 3: a lot of motherfuckers, it's just a it's just the

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Speaker 3: art of doing music. You know, a painter, you know,

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Speaker 3: can paint whatever he is.

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Speaker 1: It's on the rock. Whel painted up into his ladies, right.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of musicians, a lot of filmmakers,

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Speaker 3: a lot of motherfuckers who in that you know, fifteen

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Speaker 3: to twenty five age bracket that they you know, niggas

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Speaker 3: are still working so and a lot when you on

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Speaker 3: your artistic shit, it's not about income a lot. You know,

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Speaker 3: we do the podcast and there's other shit.

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Speaker 1: Niggas do shit.

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Speaker 3: I'm back coaching you know, kids, fourteen year old boys,

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Speaker 3: you know, trying to give back, do some shit. I

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Speaker 3: was doing a while ago when I was on a house.

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Speaker 3: I this from making music, but I guess you never

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Speaker 3: stopped making music because when you just feel like urge,

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Speaker 3: be lovely, going to the studio, righteous and songs or

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Speaker 3: whatever make you some beets or whatever. You might not

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Speaker 3: intend for the shit to go anywhere, but it's still

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So well, I.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't even really consider myself. I've always kind of like

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Speaker 2: the music business. That's because I think I love music.

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Speaker 2: It's not because necessarily, you know, because if you're in

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Speaker 2: other stuff that we can do to make more money.

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Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying right, Like, I think I've

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Speaker 2: all you know. I think I've always been really clear

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Speaker 2: on this show that the show is called against the Chronicles.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not a gangst right the gang banged in

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Speaker 2: my life. That's just not my thing. I was. I

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Speaker 2: guess what you would call the school boy, I played

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Speaker 2: college football, did all that, just like any other normal

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Speaker 2: pitfalls that Luckily I didn't get too deeply involved in.

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Speaker 2: I did my thing, but I haven't necessarily wanted to

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Speaker 2: try to sell effect that me being that's just just

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Speaker 2: king Pin on the streets and just you know, gang banger.

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Speaker 2: I was just a normal dude coming up in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I guess growing up in the environment you know that

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Speaker 1: And just how I was talking to my people's.

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Speaker 3: You know the other day, and you know, saying, how

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Speaker 3: you know, when the nigga was young, we used to

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Speaker 3: socialize over the families houses, and you know, my mom

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Speaker 3: and you know it, and there was no niggas was

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Speaker 3: living in poverty.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't know that shit. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, well, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't know that when you're younger, man, because everybody on

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Speaker 1: Right you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And I was just talking about how we socialized being

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Speaker 3: as a kid, I didn't understand.

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Speaker 1: What poverty was.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what, you know, living in the hood,

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Speaker 3: because we grew up in sets, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't know what that was all about until.

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Speaker 3: I got thirteen fourteen, and that was the heavy influence

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Speaker 3: who parente got divorced, and you know, we moved to Compton,

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Speaker 3: not to say that my parents wasn't good parents. You know,

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Speaker 3: w nig gang dang because I thought that life was

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Speaker 1: You know that you think about it.

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Speaker 2: They's not to catch you off, bro, but think about this, right,

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Speaker 2: It's the same all across the country. Man, whether you

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Speaker 2: in Detroit, Michigan, whether you're in Cleveland, Ohio, Cincinnati, Columbus, Atlanta, whatever.

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Speaker 2: You grew up in the neighborhood, and your people that

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Speaker 2: of your life up until you get about seventeen, right,

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Speaker 2: and you kind of going from that moment, those are

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Speaker 2: your peers. I wonder if that's considered the game, bro,

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Speaker 2: because I ran with a crew of dudes. I had

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Speaker 2: we went to school. Now, if somebody from around the

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Speaker 2: we was all gonna get into it. You just can't

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Speaker 2: Know, right, because it wouldn't You couldn't just come to

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I guess up into a certain time, you

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess you know, where where you

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Speaker 3: don't know if that would have been considered a gang

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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not gonna send the game, but with me and you

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Speaker 2: If we baby, it was.

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Speaker 1: Like a crew.

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Speaker 2: But when you start talking about people outside the community.

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Speaker 2: If they see a group of black kids hanging out together,

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Speaker 2: they gonna look at them and say, oh, that's a

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Speaker 1: Nigga Rose is up to no goods.

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Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, all right, they up to

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Speaker 2: no good look at them near a gang. So I

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Speaker 2: think that classification, man, kind of just you know, goes across.

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Speaker 2: I had an incident the other day, man, and I

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Speaker 2: got a family to watch this show. And the thing

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Speaker 2: I keep as much as I tell my my relatives

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Speaker 2: and homies. Man, this stuff is not real. And I

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Speaker 2: I knew, well not to put people's business out there,

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Speaker 2: Y'all still doing shit y'all did when y'all were seventeen

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Speaker 3: You tend to see that fly by night, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Nothing when you have long term relationships. If you do

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Speaker 2: Right, We've had fistfights, we've had we're on cuts them out.

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Speaker 1: Many telling shit? It's what's it was popularized.

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Speaker 3: That's why I mean shit, that's why motherfuckers like mess

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Speaker 1: Motherfuckers that you deal with in business.

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Speaker 3: And the same ship that we deal with as far

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Speaker 3: think that motherfuckers would be genuine on a certain level

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00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 3: and stick to those old rules and regulations that you

438
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: hold value too. But a lot of niggas get sidetrack,

439
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 3: and niggas who are supposed to be official because the

440
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: root of the dollar.

441
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: You get me. They fantasize about the root of the.

442
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: Dollar and wanting to be sold impressionable the motherfuckers. You

443
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 3: give me, I gotta make a good impression on motherfuckers. Man,

444
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: So nigga, I got in and they feel money and

445
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: and status puts you there. You get me, like I said,

446
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: all like, like I always say. You know, there was

447
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 3: a time when motherfuckers held any kind of autistic vision

448
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 3: or whatever to a certain standard.

449
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: You get me. Ain't no there there's no kind of

450
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: standard today with it. You get me.

451
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: If I if I can, if I could create mess

452
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 3: in this genre of what we're doing today, and I

453
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 3: can popularize it to where it can go in my

454
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: bocket and I can get fame from it. Some people

455
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck about the consequences of bullshit because,

456
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: let's face it, when niggas turn the cameras off, they

457
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: feel like they life won't they won't be normal. Right

458
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: by Okay, I just told the motherfucker fuck you and

459
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: all that shit, But damn you pull up somewhere, you

460
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: buy yourself with your wife at the grocery store and

461
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: the nigga, catch you slipping. First thing niggas want to

462
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: do is though, Oh that was for the internet.

463
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: That, man, you wouldn't believe.

464
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: And the thing I always tell people, me and eight

465
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: actually went on the show and talked about things that

466
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: really the conversation we went on here and had the

467
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: conversations that we really have offline. Man, we would be

468
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: in the news clippings every week, every episode. It would

469
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: be something new footings. But the thing about it is

470
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: it would be all be factual. It wouldn't be no

471
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: lies told, right right. I think about it sometimes, right,

472
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: Because I'm a person that goes outside. I don't hide

473
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: in the house, and I'm in the public. I'm in

474
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: the malls. You may see me in the movie theater.

475
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 2: You may look up in the pizza rea and see

476
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: me the slices of pizza next to you. Because regular person.

477
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: Dog.

478
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: You know what, man, I don't talk about my personal

479
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: life a whole lot, man, But I have a college

480
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: three have an executive job. This is not my only

481
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: source of income. I have a job in a real world.

482
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: Dog.

483
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: I'm not a part of this little fake ass world

484
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: that these dudes live in. You feel what I'm saying, well,

485
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: I get some people in a comfortable would be normal, right,

486
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: And I've never had.

487
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: No problem with the age. You've known that since you

488
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: met me.

489
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: I've always had like a regular situation going on.

490
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not in Walmart.

491
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: No, we're moving boxes, and there's nothing wrong with that, right,

492
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: definitely ain't nothing wrong with that. But I have an

493
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: executive job. Dog, I'm an executive, right, I'd get to

494
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: work me a nice trust nice when I go to work.

495
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: At my shoes. I got a company car and all

496
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: that stuff.

497
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: Right, I wouldn't care if I started making millions of

498
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: dollars from this podcast. I wouldn't quit because I make

499
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: a lot of money at my job. There would be

500
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: no reason. I never saw the reason for me to

501
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: quit one because I have the other man with This

502
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: is something we do for our rock the week, and

503
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: we do a little bit of planning before, but it's

504
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: not nothing to make that much brain wrestling to where

505
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: I just got to stop. And I've always represented myself

506
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: as nobody else but who I am. And because I'm

507
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: in the real world and I have people wear my

508
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: last name and I'm accountable for things, I've always cared

509
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: about how I presented myself. You feel me, right, I've

510
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: never got I've never gotten this stuff. I don't belong

511
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: to this little like this world, man, this whole world

512
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: of podcasting and entertainment, it's just phony, bro, It's really fake.

513
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: And if y'all believe anything that these people out here

514
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: saying half of what these people are saying, man, you

515
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: need your ass or.

516
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: You need it's unfortunate that you know of a lot

517
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: of people in.

518
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: This day and age are very naive too what is

519
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 3: broadcast to them as far as truths or false you know,

520
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: in that situation, lies or truth or rumors or or

521
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: or whatever. Like I said, back in the days, there

522
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: was a certain time where when you reported shit or

523
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: you were scared to even talk on rumors or bullshit

524
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: because the shit wasn't true.

525
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: And it was bullshit. Maide up, you could get in

526
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: trouble for that shit. You know. That's why.

527
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: Newspapers, you know, would have to get they facts straight

528
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: or they would have to reprint and do apologies when

529
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have the truth about shit. Nowadays, like I said,

530
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: people with the Internet and so much shit that's broadcast,

531
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: motherfuckers are naive to what's really you know, it's like

532
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: a it's like a motherfucker can't decipher what might be

533
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: some made up bullshit or some shit that's true.

534
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, and it's gonna get even more worse. But

535
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: this ain't ho shit, dog.

536
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 3: You know, you see it all the time because I

537
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: go through Facebook or I go through something, and it'll

538
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: be a motherfucker whatever, and.

539
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: It'll just be some made up shit.

540
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: Oh, this motherfucker left, this motherfucker or this motherfucker got

541
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: caught up in this and won't he won't.

542
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: And then you'll.

543
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: See, like, man, don't believe this motherfucker lot. I saw

544
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: some shit about Snoop and the family and he was

545
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: part broken because something happened and Woop he won't and

546
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm like it may none of his people. Then you

547
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: see his people, you know, chime in there and like

548
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: those are in his family, and that's something maid up.

549
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: Like people really go out of their way to make

550
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: up shit just to see how nearly people they can

551
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: get to comment on, you know, the bullshit like oh,

552
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: Norman Steele got divorced from his wife because he was

553
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: caught cheating with this girl. And it's some a high

554
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: made up shit.

555
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: But then you really have.

556
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: People who sitting there who can't decipher that that shit

557
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: has faith, like still still would never do that ship,

558
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: like oh, that's someth that's it's like people. And then

559
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: you see you will see people arguing with people who

560
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: have common sense, right, people who have common sense, who goes,

561
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: come on, y'all, y'all know damn well, that ain't happening.

562
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: It's a made up ship. And then you'll see people like, well,

563
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: how can we trust you?

564
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: How can we trust you to know that it's some

565
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: maid of shit who says it's not really? And I'll

566
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: be sitting there like are these people so real? Like

567
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: like like you're questioning if the ship is fake or not?

568
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: Like you want that's some right, Like you can't that

569
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: that's some made up fake shit.

570
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: It's like unbelievable.

571
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: But but now you as a person is really sitting

572
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: up questioning a person with common sense, going, well, how

573
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: do you know that that ain't real? He could be real,

574
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: he could really have cheated or did some shit, or

575
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: he won't. And then you he saying like people are really.

576
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: Like you know what the fuck that part about it is? Though? Bro?

577
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Is this let us say it's real. Why do you care?

578
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: Why are you so invested in the boy? Hey, I'm

579
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: gonna be real with you. Have the stuff out here.

580
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: When I see it, I pay no mind to a

581
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: knock that. It's not even a part of my regular

582
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: day to day the conversation. Like I said, because me

583
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: and you live in the real world. You coaching you football? Bro,

584
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: you were entertainer of that show. Job me doing is

585
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: a me being a podcaster. I feel like being a

586
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: podcast is my part time job. But I'm a full

587
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: time man. I'm a man at one hundred percent of

588
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: the time, so you never go see me engaged in

589
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: those silly shit. Plus, like I said, I have a

590
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: I have a highly tired of position with a reputable company.

591
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: So it's I'm not gonna do too much foolishness. I'm

592
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: not gonna do no foolishness because I'm not gonna. I

593
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: have way too much to lose.

594
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

595
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: I have one investments, so when I retire, that me

596
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: and my wife can retire the right way. I live

597
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: in the real world, bro, and there is nothing wrong

598
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: with living in the real world.

599
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: Bro, There's nothing wrong with that.

600
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of people who you know, and

601
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: you gotta give it up for people who still get

602
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: up in the morning and punch the flock and here go.

603
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: And some of us who respect that, ain't nothing wrong

604
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: with that, you know, you gotta have respect for that

605
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: because some you know, some niggas like myself was fortunate

606
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: to be able to do music and make records and

607
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: live in the time where records were, you know, highly

608
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: appreciated in the genre of rap music and being able

609
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: to kick in that door as captain's most wanted and

610
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: you know, myself to be able to tell stories of

611
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: how you know, our life was and maybe yours too.

612
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: So some of us were fortunate enough to do that.

613
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 3: And there's some of us wasn't, you know, because there's

614
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: a lot there's a lot of dudes who entered this

615
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: game who didn't sustain. And I'm not one of the

616
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: biggest richest niggas in rap. I've done my part, you

617
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But again, shit, before I started

618
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: rapping and making records, I had three or four regular jobs.

619
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: And because I didn't consider myself a drug dealer, I

620
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: was a gang banger. Now you know, you had niggas

621
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: from the hood who sold ya and made bread and

622
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: you know, it was balling and whatever whatever. But I

623
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: knew about the pitfalls of being.

624
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: A drug dealer. I knew a lot of the homies

625
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: who you know.

626
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: Were in the FEDS and who were getting long time

627
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: behind you know, having.

628
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: A couple of crack pieces and shit.

629
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: So I don't particularly think that I wanted to go

630
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: that route as far as you know, street life was concerned.

631
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: So I just gang bang. Did I dibble and dabble a.

632
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: Little bit, of course, to have money to eat and

633
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, maybe get.

634
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: A brand new pair of khakis.

635
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: And some shit to wear, and you know, to have

636
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 3: some funds in my pocket and shit like that. But

637
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: other than that, you know, I didn't consider myself the

638
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 3: ball or drug dealer. So nigga I had. I had

639
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: a couple of regular jobs until the music broke, and

640
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: I had no.

641
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: Regrets about having to get up.

642
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: And go to work, you get me, because that was

643
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: how I got paid.

644
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: You feel me.

645
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 3: Shit, there's a lot of niggas who came home from

646
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: prison or niggas who was in the hood, who niggas

647
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: was going to work and they it off work, come

648
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: to the hood and nigga still from the hood. Nigga

649
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: got they work best on or they construction best or

650
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: wherever nigga working at, and the nigga still was representing

651
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,959
Speaker 3: the hood. So, like I said, in those times of

652
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: considering being normal, before the internet and computers jumped off

653
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: in every home and you know, microphones and niggas with

654
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: garages and couches, and you know, because the game now

655
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: is more is more open, just like the rap game was,

656
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: you feel me, We considered some of us the rap

657
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: game was the new drug game. Right. Exactly, you can

658
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: go by you, you go buy you some gay, right.

659
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: You can go buy you a fifty piece or whatever,

660
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: or a quarter piece, or you can go buy you

661
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: nine ounces or whatever and flip and.

662
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: Make you some bread.

663
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: Right, So we considered the record look game the new

664
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 3: joke game. Nigga, I can go out, put together me

665
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: some raps, nigga, put them on some beats and go

666
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 3: flip them shits and they gonna sell some units and

667
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make some bread.

668
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: You know.

669
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: Fortunately, we wasn't hip enough to understand contracts or didn't

670
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: have lawyers. And still then even if you had a lawyer,

671
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: you would have thought that a lawyer would have been like, oh,

672
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: hell no, don't sign this shit. He motherfucker's finishing you

673
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 3: seventy cents a record, you feel me, and you'll ever

674
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: recoup that and pay that back. But shit, lawyers was

675
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: getting paid on the strip because they was negotiating the contracts,

676
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: so they was gonna make day five, ten, fifteen thousand.

677
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

678
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: And on top of that, you gotta remember most of

679
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: those attorneys, especially back then, it was a with the

680
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: interest because a lot of these attorneys were working for

681
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: the labels as well.

682
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: Well you thought, I never had a lawyer, and so

683
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: whoever was handling, uh the nigga shit I was signed to,

684
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: was like, you know, he was representing the whole pit shit,

685
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: you get me.

686
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't like it anyway, So he didn't really get

687
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: with them.

688
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: It wasn't like I was like with shit, let me

689
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: take this contract home to my mom and then we

690
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: gonna get us a lawyer and all shit, nigga, we

691
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: got no five grand to go retain, no lawyer to

692
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: look over, no recording contracts.

693
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: And all that. So what what would have been the outcome?

694
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: And you know what, and you were young, and you

695
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: were so young at the time that I was a

696
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: young nigga.

697
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: You you could have found attorney to do it on

698
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: a contingency basis that would have said, you know what,

699
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: ain't you don't have to have the money. Now, I'll

700
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: take my I'll take my retainer at once we close

701
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: the deal, but I'm gonna make sure you got the

702
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: best deal of you know, they show deal is one thousand,

703
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna represent you through all your future endeavors. Man,

704
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: here'd the business attorneys that would have been glad to

705
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: see a young NCA walk up in the office, that

706
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: would have did right by it.

707
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: Career. We would have hoped so.

708
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 3: But you know, at the time, there were a lot

709
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: of us walking in from out of the streets into

710
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: these corporate offices, and they knew we weren't that knowledgeable

711
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 3: about recording industry contracts and how the record business work.

712
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: A lot of them knew we were naive to that

713
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: because we were just niggas coming up out of poverty

714
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: in the ghetto and looking at you know, you buy

715
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: me a car, you know what I'm saying, Or I

716
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: could do this, or I could do that.

717
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I didn't even.

718
00:38:52,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: Stand size about owning a home and you know, they

719
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: a certain certain shit. I didn't even fantasize about this

720
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: shit when I first started making records. I was just

721
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: like shit, I was trying to find a way to

722
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: exit from you know, the transition of trying to find something,

723
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: because I already tried dope.

724
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: We already overhear gang banging and it's just a circle.

725
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: You get me.

726
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: So at one point, nigga going to grow up and

727
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: it's still the hood. But shit, I got a little

728
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: kid now, you know, And what am I gonna do?

729
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: Go to jail? And now my kid is out here,

730
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: and you know, and I do something. I'm seventeen eighteen

731
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: years old. You give me it ain't. I can't be

732
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: acting my hums for money and shit like that. No

733
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: more so, or you know, thank goodness, Like I said,

734
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: a nigga had the vision of starting to write music,

735
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: but I wasn't knowledgeable enough to know about contracts and

736
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 3: publishing and all that, and unfortunate, you know, I was

737
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: a young nigga seventeen eighteen. There was a nigga thirty

738
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: something who knew all about their ends and odds, and

739
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: that was a way for a motherfucker to go shit

740
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: here signing this side this, sign that, and when you

741
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: in a situation of desperation, because again I ain't the lead,

742
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 3: you feel me drive.

743
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people took advantage BacT.

744
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing, right, the biggest thing all this,

745
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: man is this, and you have to look at the

746
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: bright side of stuff.

747
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes hecks you not signed that fucked up? Right? Right?

748
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's certain people bro Like I would

749
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: like to believe that if Unknown wouldn't have discovered CMW,

750
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: you'allays tell it enough to where somebody would have eventually

751
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: whether there had been easy to Eric and them or

752
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: trading somebody or somebody else, right, that would it says,

753
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna pick these guys up, right,

754
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: But you know you've got an industry, and I always

755
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: say on nothing happened by accident, right, Everything happened for

756
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: a reason, right, you were able to carve out a

757
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: very enviable career.

758
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: Man. It's a lot of people.

759
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: Man. You know what I think I was telling you

760
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: the other day, I've signed I've signed four artists to

761
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: record deals, and.

762
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Out of those four artists broke none of them.

763
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: Nothing never really transpired like you know, one of them

764
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: got to come up with an album, but it was

765
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: very it was a very little fan fare, right, And

766
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: it wasn't because the album was whack. It's just how

767
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: it is, right, And I don't think people and I

768
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: think people always see like the jay Z's or the

769
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: NWA's and Cemw's and they like.

770
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: Think that everybody just because they have the deal, go

771
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: have that most success.

772
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: No, for every copy this most wanted, man, you have

773
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: maybe ten other groups is on the label that they

774
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: ain't going. They may come out and sell four hundred

775
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: copies bro right. You know Little Dirt is one of

776
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: the biggest artists in hip hop now. Little Dirk's first

777
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 2: album on Deaf Jam Dog, he did three hundred copies

778
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: this first week. I was just think if he could

779
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: have just said, man, that's very disturacing. He had independent

780
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: rappers that were selling more than him, exactly, and you

781
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: on a major label, right, And sometimes these people on

782
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: these labels. That's why I'm not a fan of going

783
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: to go sign artists to deals, man, until they get

784
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: some traction.

785
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Or because what happens though.

786
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: I could tell you an artist now, man that's on

787
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: a major label and he one dropped about probably five albums.

788
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: Them albums really sold nothing. Labels are in the business now,

789
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: dog to where some people just up there picking the budgets. Dog.

790
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: Some of these big producers, they may add one artist,

791
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 2: big artist that the label don't gave them. That this

792
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: who you go push right, Like a lot of these producers, man,

793
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: have label deals. They don't necessarily have artists that they

794
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: went out and signed on their own and developed. They

795
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: got somebody just at the labelhere, they got this key here, right,

796
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: or let's figure out what to do with him, so

797
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna set them over here with

798
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: such and such right now, he hot, y'all gonna make

799
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: some records, right, same thing when Timberland had beat Club,

800
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: now Timberlin, he might have went out and signed some people.

801
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: But man, it's very few. It's very little artist development.

802
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: Like I got an artist right now. Man, I'm not

803
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: gonna say his name and nothing, because we're very in

804
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: the preliminary stages.

805
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: Right.

806
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: But this dude got a chance to be really big.

807
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 2: But what we are doing by me knowing the business now, like, okay,

808
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 2: have four other shots with this. Olive wanted to go

809
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: fucked up, so we gonna do this and look different.

810
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: You know what, they want you to do the soundtrack

811
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: for the fief of World Cup. We'll go do that first.

812
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: Right before we put out a record on you, we

813
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: gonna put off some street albums and get them motherfuckers

814
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: away for free. You feel what I'm saying, build you

815
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: a fan base up. We gonna put you on a

816
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: college problem on tour. Yeah, you ain't gonna get nothing

817
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: but a couple hundred bucks to show, but we gonna

818
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: go out and put you in front of people. So

819
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: when we do, when they do decide to put out

820
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: an album on you, it ain't because we begged them to.

821
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: It's because the the man is there and they have to.

822
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: That's what happened to Dirk Man. TI's first album was

823
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: a flop, and we talked about dudes who turned out

824
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: to be really prolific artists like Ti is probably one

825
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: of the He's one of the biggest artists in hip

826
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: hop at one time. You know what I'm saying, jay

827
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: Z Man. Jay Z was thirty years old before he

828
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: really got the pop dog.

829
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: He had to come on. They had, That's why they

830
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: started Rockefeller. Didn't nobody want to sign them, bro, and

831
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to. Uh, That's why I say you

832
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: have to. You have to. You have to.

833
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: Understand the moves of business minded niggas as opposed to

834
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: artists who just I don't want to say desperate, but

835
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: you know, in my time, the doors were just opening

836
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: for rap artists. You know, it was a different situation

837
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: of you know, shit, nigga, we in a good in

838
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: the ghetto. We slang, your niggas is dying, We're going

839
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: to prison. I'm starting to make records and at the

840
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: age where I am, I'm not thinking like shit, fuck

841
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 3: going and shign the contract.

842
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: Nigga. I'm a follow the steps of of.

843
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 3: The Thelonzo's or the fucking ease E's or the fucking

844
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: you know, the e forty's in them who was putting

845
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: out their records. But in my situation, I'm a solo

846
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 3: young nigga who who I ain't selling. I ain't selling

847
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: joke like that. I'm selling dope so I can buy

848
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: me a new outfit. And was like most of us

849
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: get some money and eat today, you're getting me. Mom's

850
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: just gotta pay rent and bills and she's struggling as

851
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 3: a single mom, not getting no child support from the

852
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: tops and shit, not that she took you, but she

853
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: chose not to fuck that, you get me. So the

854
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: struggle was real, you know, living in places where you

855
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: know you would you would in a million years, would

856
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: move your children. You feel me black, you know what,

857
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: go Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, but you know you staying

858
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: in spots where it's like, God, damn, this is where

859
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: we gotta leave you though, but at the time hits

860
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: like this is what it is.

861
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: You ain't know no different.

862
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: But bro, you know what's crazy is this always somebody

863
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: like me around, a dude that got an idea, that's

864
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: figuring out a different way to skin a cat. If

865
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: I'd have knew you back then eight you'd asked you

866
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: an independent label, Like if I could have caught you

867
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: from the time that you signed to Sony, if I'd

868
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: have ran across you, I'd have convinced you somehow. Hey, man,

869
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: let's go start a label. You've been looking at me

870
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: like what nigga. I'll be like, Man, we gonna go

871
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: to city Hall and get a distribution and we're gonna

872
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: go to select them here to let them sell the

873
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: records in the Midwest and South you'd have been making

874
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: so much money man, so much brands, Sony would have

875
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: had a hard time getting the album from you.

876
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: Or what I should have done was, you know, I

877
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: should have been smart enough to go, you know, when

878
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: they decided to split the CON's most wanner shit, I've

879
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: been like, oh, well, I'm not signing to y'all. I

880
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 3: will signing to y'all is CMW. And now that all

881
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: of that shit is taken care of, I finna go

882
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: sign their C eight deal or do my own ship

883
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: because y'all ain't never did shit with CMW anywhere they

884
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: knew how to, you know, work it to where we're

885
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: gonna transition you from CMW all over to MC eight

886
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: and then here's a check and now you can handle

887
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: your own ship.

888
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: And that's that shit.

889
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: Exactly so, because putting putting out three CMW records and

890
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: being on a roller coaster ride and you know, not

891
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: really seeing any bread and all of that, you know,

892
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 3: my stance at the time was fuck making records because

893
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: I had just did Minutes to Society and so I

894
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: was like, you know, I felt that that was my

895
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: my my my stand right there.

896
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: I have a he was realized dog not to cut

897
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: you off. I'm looking to feel my wedding ring dog,

898
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, where the fuck is my wedding ring at?

899
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: I just gave nolage some hamburger meat. You ain't get

900
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: some hamburger me other thing. I'll come right up from

901
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: my wing and the motherfucking hamburger meat dog. She on

902
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: ate my fucking ring upstairs and find it. Yeah, maybe

903
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: he took that motherfucker off and put it on the counter.

904
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Before you know, I grabbed that hamburger meat dog and

905
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: I bought nowhere it's at. If theyin't in that pack

906
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: of hamburger meat dog, i'ma have to wait the dolledge

907
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: and use the bathroom.

908
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: I had to get my wedding ring.

909
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because if you can't remember, because if you

910
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: can't remember, like.

911
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: I don't, never take that motherfucker off. That's how I

912
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: knew it was. That's how I knew it was gone

913
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: right here, My wife's toll this ship. Now, ye are right,

914
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: he wants your hamburger ring and the thing. But but

915
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: you know what, though you telling the truth.

916
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: And what I always say is man, one thing we

917
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: can't do, and maybe it's a good thing, is we

918
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: can't go backward dog.

919
00:49:59,280 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: No, we can't.

920
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 3: You know, you wish, you know, you know, we all

921
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: wish we could have one do over, you know what

922
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But that's not how life works. It's not

923
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: our God, you know, intended for you know, life to

924
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: be for us. You only live once, so you have

925
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: to learn from your mistakes. Unfortunately, some of us can

926
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: learn the first time around, and some of us it

927
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: takes a couple of go arounds to finally understand how,

928
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, life is supposed to work, especially as an adult,

929
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: because we can become adult age but still not have

930
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: the mental capability to still deal with with grown up

931
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 3: life and how life works. And so a lot of

932
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 3: niggas get caught up and shit because you know, I

933
00:50:59,440 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 3: figured it.

934
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 2: You feel, well, you know what I've noticed with this

935
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: hip hop shit man, because you know, I go to shows,

936
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: and you know the thing about hip hop. When you

937
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: go to the show, it's almost like going to school, right,

938
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: you know, you back to school. On the first day,

939
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: you see all the homies. Some of them you see

940
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: pretty regularly. Some of them you might see just on

941
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 2: the road, right, and you see some of these cats,

942
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: and you could tell the ones who've grown up kind

943
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: of because they, like you've been in this business since

944
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: you were seventeen eight. I know you've known some of

945
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: your rap here since y'all was around the same age,

946
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: and you notice the difference. Like you may say, hey man,

947
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: this dude used to be wild, but now he's a

948
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: little bit more calm and relaxed and reserved right, kind

949
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: of handle his business and go home, Whereas before when

950
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: he was younger, he might've been the one to chasing

951
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: tail after the show, was hanging out, you know what

952
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean. But now they kind of going to go

953
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: do their set and they going home, right. Some of

954
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: these dudes are steel the same as they were when

955
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: they were seventeen dog and they fifty year old men now,

956
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: but they still doing the same thing. They got them

957
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: a plane of Hennessy. They're blowing their way. They out

958
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: there trying to hang out after the show. I think

959
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: some wrapped on a loss. Some people grow up.

960
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: Some people never grow up. Well hmm.

961
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 3: Some niggas, unfortunately, like you said, gets stuck in the time,

962
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 3: or a lot of the homies who go to prison

963
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: and do long beds and come home some of them adjusting,

964
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: some of them, don't. It's homies, like you said, it's

965
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: still on. You know who are around who just you

966
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 3: figure that what can be better than the life that

967
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 3: I've been living?

968
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: You give me.

969
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: I ain't no rapper or I'm no nigga with you know,

970
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: no artistic value or you know, I'm just a regular nigga.

971
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: And some of those homies feel that.

972
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 3: Represent me and staying true to who they are is

973
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: the best life for them. You get me, and and unfortunately,

974
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: some of us change with the times. Situations make us change,

975
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: you know, getting married, having kids, getting a better job,

976
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: or you know, becoming a different person. It puts you

977
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 3: in different places. And sometimes when nigga settle, that's what happens.

978
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: You get me.

979
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: You know, when that o there you not looking for

980
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: that next climb up the ladder, or that you know,

981
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: that next totem pole or stance or whatever position some

982
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 3: niggas get, you know, some niggas get in the position

983
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 3: they doo.

984
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: Shit, nigga, I'm good and I'm cool. Yeah, and it

985
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with that, don't get me wrong. Eight.

986
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: I think we all I think it's antural thing as

987
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: a man, as the providers of our household to want

988
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: to kind of sin right to make more money. I know,

989
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm always I think I ain't never met a man

990
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 2: that didn't want to make more money.

991
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Right.

992
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: But I'm in this place right now to where I'm cautious. Right,

993
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm cautious about my investment. I'm cautious about what I

994
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 2: put my time into.

995
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: Right.

996
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: Because we was talking the other day, you know, you

997
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: would look up at it, man, like you don't have

998
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: to tell me a couple of times like still like

999
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: I we talked about somebody that's sixty and be like man,

1000
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: they oh, and then you think about like, well, damn,

1001
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm five now, my nigga, you know off fifty four

1002
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: or whatever? Right you like, you're right there, right. So

1003
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: I think we become as time go along, we become

1004
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 2: a lot more cautious about what we put time into.

1005
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: I know.

1006
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: That's one of the big transitions I've been making as

1007
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: of late, like even the last year or so, because

1008
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: this is just certain stuff I just can't devote my

1009
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: time to No more, bro, because it's I don't have

1010
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: that much time.

1011
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: To devote to that stuff.

1012
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: No more. You feel me. I was like, well, when

1013
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: I was twenty twenty five, I could take more risks

1014
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: now I don't have time for so and shit, bro Well.

1015
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: They say, you know, time is valuable, and.

1016
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: When you're in your twenties and thirties, you know, you

1017
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: look at you have all the time in the world.

1018
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: You feel me as a kid, you know, nine, ten, twelve, fifteen, whatever,

1019
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 3: you looking at it like, can't wait, could become a

1020
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: grown up? Right again, time is valuable, right, So there's

1021
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 3: things you might go through as a young adult and

1022
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 3: in your younger years that you know it's some bullshit

1023
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 3: and a mistake and I shouldn't have done it, but

1024
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: you might do the shit two or three times over again.

1025
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: You get me as you get up in age, and

1026
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 3: not to say that you have lost any wheel or

1027
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 3: energy or I'm the same nigga, I gotta feel whatever,

1028
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: but you start valuing time, especially when your peers and

1029
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: people around you and you feel the same age group

1030
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: of situation. You know, people be dying off. You know,

1031
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: you'll look up in a nigga two years older than

1032
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: you die.

1033
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: You'll look up or you'll look up a nigga four

1034
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: years younger than you died. You know this stuff, you

1035
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: start really losing you know what they want to take.

1036
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to say is is.

1037
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: It's not like motherfuckers who are you know, you see

1038
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 3: death all the time, you hear about it, But when

1039
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: you start putting it in the perspective of wait a minute,

1040
00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm saying the age that much.

1041
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: Fuck it was I'm two years or I was just

1042
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: or I was just talking to him last week. So

1043
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: that's why I say, you start value in time, right,

1044
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: so it.

1045
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: Starts becoming to where, hey, I don't got time to

1046
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: do that bullshit anymore, or I ain't got time to

1047
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 3: do that anymore, because time is too valuable to not

1048
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: be doing shit that you only want to do that

1049
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: benefits you. You get me, I can't afford to be

1050
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: doing shit that's gonna benefit someone else and put me

1051
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: in a situation to where nothing might not happen for

1052
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: me out of it and it might have just wasted

1053
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 3: my time. You feel me, I'm gonna have time to waste.

1054
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: I only have time for shit that benefits me. And

1055
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: it might sound a little selfish to some motherfuckers or whatever.

1056
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: But again, when you start getting up in age, and

1057
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: not to say that, you know, we're walking around like

1058
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: we old men and wheelchairs and you know we're just

1059
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: waiting for death to knock on the front door. But

1060
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: my time is valuable now, you feel me. Yeah, And

1061
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: it's like, you know what another thing.

1062
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm ain't gonna do.

1063
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: Shit that benefits me or makes me happy or straight

1064
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: or you know, motherfucker's on the same page.

1065
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: And it can't just said it be just for money

1066
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: no more. It's like it's nothing. It ain't be like

1067
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: you said. You could do some shit.

1068
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: He could be some shit to where a motherfucker our

1069
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: friend or one eat or motherfucker's on something like hey, man,

1070
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: my nigger, Hey, you know, woot he woke and it's

1071
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: gonna help you and woot he woke. You gotta be

1072
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: like you know, like you said earlier the day man,

1073
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: you know, I don't even wanna fuck with it. You know,

1074
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: no disrespect or no horror fell letters. But at this

1075
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: point hard feeling.

1076
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: I've been had to tell niggas I love no lately

1077
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: they eight because it's not ni even about money. If hey,

1078
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something, man, I turned down the

1079
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: job man with a reputable record company man maybe three

1080
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: months ago. I didn't even say to my wife about

1081
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 2: it nothing, because I've been down that road before, Bro,

1082
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: and I don't want to, like, I don't have the time, Bro,

1083
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Speaker 2: to go invest a bunch of time in some dog

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Speaker 2: and really take a job where I ain't got no

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00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: ink of my PN dog. I can't make a difference.

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Speaker 2: I'm really just somewhere, you know, doing what I'm told,

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Speaker 2: and the ain't none wrong with that. But if I

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Speaker 2: can't go on the record company and make an impact

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Speaker 2: and do what I need to do, Bro, and do

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Speaker 2: what I need to do it, I'm not gonna ship

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Speaker 2: up here and make you make me look stupid, because

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, so many people in need

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: record companies don't know what the fuck they doing exactly,

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Speaker 2: and they would have you up there doing certain things Bro,

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Speaker 2: that you know just don't make sense.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, believe it or not, you could make some

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Speaker 1: decent money.

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Speaker 2: But I make more money at the job I got

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Speaker 2: knock Dog to any record company job I had, because,

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Speaker 2: for one, you never go get the all the bonuses

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Speaker 2: and shit you're supposed to see from a record man.

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Speaker 2: You never go see them bonuses.

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Speaker 3: Now at the end of the day, like I said,

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Speaker 3: and on that the end of it, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: leave it at that. I'm gonna leave it right here.

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Speaker 3: You should only have.

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Speaker 1: Time to do what is valuable to you and yours

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Speaker 1: and that's it, amya, And with that we out of here. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well that concludes another episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to

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Speaker 2: the Gangst the Chronicles podcast. But Apple users find a

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Speaker 2: purple Michael on the front of your screen, subscribe to

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Speaker 2: the show, leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for

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Speaker 2: The Gangst Chronicles podcast Norman Stilled, Aaron m c a Tyler,

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Speaker 2: Our visual media director is Brian Whatt, and audio editors

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Speaker 2: tell it Hey. The Gainst the Chronicles is a production

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