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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, January ninth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where trail Mix

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Speaker 1: counts as a vegetable. Right, It's me your man, dam

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Speaker 1: G Marcus Grant, joined by Michael f Florio and so Floria.

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Speaker 1: We are through the official end of the NFL regular season.

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Speaker 1: We were at that awkward part of the year where

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Speaker 1: teams who didn't make the playoffs are starting to make

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Speaker 1: front office changes. For everybody else who did make the playoffs, it's,

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Speaker 1: you know, time to get ready for that. I gotta

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Speaker 1: ask you how you're feeling, because you went through a

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Speaker 1: range of emotions. I would imagine on Sunday, like waiting

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Speaker 1: for the Bills, watching the other games. What was your

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Speaker 1: Sunday like?

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Speaker 2: It was a very fun Sunday. I actually went down

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Speaker 2: to Huntington Beach, something I do very infrequently, because Rank

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Speaker 2: and a mutual friend, Eric Young, the wrestler, they were

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Speaker 2: going down there to watch. I used to do shows

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Speaker 2: with Eric and stuff, so I haven't seen him in

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Speaker 2: a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Went down. Cynthia Frielan showed up for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It was a.

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Speaker 2: Fun Sunday, but everyone there was watching other games. I

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Speaker 2: was locked on to Titans Jags, and once that happened,

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Speaker 2: I was a much more calm. Even when the Bills

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Speaker 2: were down, I still felt confident in that game, but

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Speaker 2: when asked Nicolette, when Deontay Hardy returned that punt, I

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Speaker 3: And down, yelling and going through it. So it was

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Speaker 3: a fun Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure every game like Bill's game like that

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Speaker 2: will be like that for me the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: As for you're not, you.

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Speaker 2: Get the easy one this week, but after that, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you'll be in.

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Speaker 3: A similar state.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this week, the Niners are off, and it's great.

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Speaker 1: I'm going out of town. I'm gonna go just take

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Speaker 1: a little getaway with the fam this weekend, so I

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Speaker 1: don't really have to worry about it. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll pop in and watch a game here or there,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: be super locked in coming up this weekend, So you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: How I know you always pick a game to be

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Speaker 2: like that's the one is that the Bills seak?

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Speaker 1: I need to figure out, Yeah, what's the game? I

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Speaker 1: just called it the Target game, which is like basically

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Speaker 1: the game where I'm like, hey, i can just go

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Speaker 1: to target and run errand, and I'm not really gonna

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Speaker 1: be so upset if I miss it. Chances are as

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Speaker 1: I look at the schedule, it's probably gonna be Brown's Texans,

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Speaker 1: which is that first game on Saturday. But I actually

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Speaker 1: actually in theory because none of it really matters because

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Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be out of town, so they may

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Speaker 1: all sort of be target games, I guess for me,

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Speaker 1: and I just kind of pop in where I can. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so we'll say about that. I know my wife is

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Speaker 1: a Rams fan, so we may have to find somewhere

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Speaker 1: to watch Rams Lions. That that was definitely a game

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Speaker 1: of the weekend. I don't know if you know this,

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Speaker 1: but Matthew Stafford used to play for the Lions, and

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff was once coached by Sean McVay he played

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Speaker 1: for the Rams. This is a wait, sure, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know no one's talking about this, so

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure we get that out

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Speaker 1: there right now. All right, we have been doing our

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Speaker 1: season a recap. We've done the good, We've done the bad.

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Speaker 1: Today we'll do the WTFS just the things that I

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Speaker 1: thought were sort of weird or unexplainable, and we'll try

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Speaker 1: to find a way to explain maybe the unexplainable. Also,

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Speaker 1: we will do our way too early first round mock draft.

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Speaker 1: We'll go back and forth, twelve teams. Let's, just for

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Speaker 1: the sake of argument, say it's a single quarterback full

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Speaker 1: point PPR. You know your general standard. Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: when now he's become standard Fantasy league there. But I

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Speaker 1: want to start with some news because with the end

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Speaker 1: of the regular season and as when we see coaches

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Speaker 1: being let go, one that I think caught you and

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Speaker 1: I by surprise on Tuesday morning, the Titans have fired

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel after a six and eleven season, back to

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Speaker 1: back seasons below five hundred for Tennessee and their ownership

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Speaker 1: deciding it was time to make a change. I know

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Speaker 1: you said you put it out there on Twitter that

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Speaker 1: you were surprising that you got a lot of response

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Speaker 1: back from Titans fans saying that you should not have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I well, I guess I could have worded

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Speaker 2: my tweet a little bit better. I wrote it seems

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Speaker 2: like a mistake on the Titans part, and Titans fans were.

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Speaker 1: Like, really, this guy's done nothing.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, you were the one seed a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago with Ryan Tannehill as your quarterback. Like,

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Speaker 2: I know this year didn't go according to plan, but

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Speaker 2: your quarterback was. It was a revolving door of meh

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Speaker 2: and a young guy that you're trying to train. And

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Speaker 2: I know there's like veteran players on this team, but

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Speaker 2: you lost almost all of your defense from last year.

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Speaker 2: Like everyone knew this was a rebuilding year coming in

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Speaker 2: for the Titans. My thing is he's not gonna be

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Speaker 2: unemployed for long. He will probably be one of the

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Speaker 2: first coaches that gets highed this cycle because he's done.

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Speaker 1: A lot of really good things.

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Speaker 2: And I would say those Tennessee Titans teams when they

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Speaker 2: were the one seed, stuff like that, they weren't the

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Speaker 2: most talented team in the league. They they beat the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: They are way out class.

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Speaker 2: They beat the Jags with the division on the line, Like,

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Speaker 2: this is still a guy that can get his guys

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Speaker 2: fired up, could get them to play and get them

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Speaker 2: to play well against teams that probably have a whole

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Speaker 2: lot more talent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I was as you were talking here,

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Speaker 1: and I was scrolling through the Twitter feed of our

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Speaker 1: pal and former producer Justin Graver, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: you can find him on Twitter at Titan's Film Room.

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Speaker 1: Very good, does great content, always very much on the

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Speaker 1: pulse of Titan's Nation, and like nothing in his feed

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Speaker 1: suggested that he saw this coming. I mean, so far,

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Speaker 1: Justin's been very down the middle. I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 1: to you. I'm gonna sit here and sit him, send

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Speaker 1: him a DM as we sit and talk and try

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Speaker 1: to figure out how he feels about this. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it just didn't seem to him like, you know,

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Speaker 1: of things. Meanwhile, in Washington, Ron Rivera has been let go.

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Speaker 1: the new commander's owners to make that decision. There. So

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Speaker 1: Ron rivera out in Washington, but the one that all

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Speaker 1: of Fantasy Twitter is talking about down in Atlanta. The

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Speaker 1: Falcons didn't even wait until Monday. They did it on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. They pulled the plug on Arthur Smith after

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Speaker 1: three seasons as the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: So Arthur Smith's last official act as the Falcons head

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Speaker 1: I think he and Allen tried to smooth things over

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Speaker 1: basically Jamis Winston went rogue and decided he was going

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Speaker 1: to override Dinis Allen's call. I decided to get Jamal

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Speaker 1: Williams a touchdown. But regardless, Arthur Smith is out as

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Speaker 1: the Falcons head coach. Look, I'm not gonna sit here

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Speaker 1: and you know, be gleeful that a man lost his job.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of families involved, there are assistant

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Speaker 1: coaches involved, they're going to lose their jobs. But look, Florida,

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Speaker 1: there's no way around this, right. We all sort of

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Speaker 1: agreed that he was the biggest obstacle to a lot

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Speaker 1: of really talented players not developing over the last three years,

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Speaker 1: whether it was Kyle Pitts or Drake London to an extent,

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Speaker 1: or Bjon Robinson. This year, we looked at the way

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith was deploying his talent and felt like he

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Speaker 1: was the problem. Now we don't know what the solution

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Speaker 1: who's going to call plays, none of those sorts of things.

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Speaker 1: But step one seems like it's out of the way.

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Speaker 1: The one big hurdle that we've identified is gone. So

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Speaker 1: as we sit here on January ninth at ten twelve

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Speaker 1: any of those Falcons skill guys?

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Speaker 2: It gives me optimism, but I still need to see

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Speaker 2: what they're going to do here, because if they bring

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Speaker 2: in Bill Belichick and then sign like Gardner Minshew to

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be nearly as.

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Speaker 2: Bullish on these Falcons players as other people like I've

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Speaker 2: already seen people on Twitter like Kyle Pitt's top five

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Speaker 2: will pick this team to win the division and do

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Speaker 2: a whole bunch of cool things and all of that.

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Speaker 2: But I still need to see who they're their coach

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Speaker 2: is going to be, who their play caller is gonna be,

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Speaker 2: and most importantly, what they are going to do.

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Speaker 3: To address the quarterback position, which.

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Speaker 1: For two years in a row.

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Speaker 2: Now, as much as we could talk about Arthur Smith

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Speaker 2: and him holding players back, the quarterbacks are just as

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Speaker 2: guilty of that, and and to your point, I always like,

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Speaker 2: it's a result based business and there are times where

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this guy's not getting it done.

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Speaker 3: We need to see a change here, and.

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Speaker 2: Usually though I feel bad for the human behind it,

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Speaker 2: Arthur Smith is the one coach that I'm like, what

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Speaker 2: was his redeeming quality? I don't he was attacking media's

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Speaker 2: helling p He might have a burner on Twitter now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it just seems all.

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Speaker 1: Bad right now. It was not great, and I think

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Speaker 1: even Falcons fans looked at it and just saw an

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Speaker 1: arrogance behind Arthur Smith and the way he approached things

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Speaker 1: that was really sort of hard to swallow. And I

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Speaker 1: think that is, in the end, is what sort of

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Speaker 1: cost him. Definitely. The quarterback situation did not help things.

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Speaker 1: And I don't remember where I saw the tweet, but

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Speaker 1: as soon as you know, Lamar Jackson basically expressed his

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Speaker 1: displeasure with the Ravens and there was talk that maybe

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Speaker 1: he would be on the trade block, that he maybe

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Speaker 1: he was available. Five teams immediately went out of their

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Speaker 1: way to say we have no interest in Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Of those five teams, four of them have fired their

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Speaker 3: You So, did you see Arthur blank double down on that?

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Speaker 2: No, they really yesterday at his press conference if it

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Speaker 2: was a mistake to not and he said, I don't

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Speaker 2: think so.

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Speaker 1: Whoo all right, I mean, look, I look stick to

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Speaker 1: your guns. I guess I'm hard about to win his

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Speaker 1: second MVP. So so there it is. I guess the

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Speaker 2: The extent that fantasy analysts broadcast it to be, I

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Speaker 1: of points. I think those are the ones that we

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Speaker 1: can kind of figure out. I mean, I think I

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Speaker 1: look at I'm just going through, right, and look at

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Speaker 1: some of these guys. I mean, Jalen Wore and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he had some moments, but the Steelers offense

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Speaker 1: wasn't really good and it was between him and uh

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Speaker 1: Najie Harris all season long. Chua Hubbard was another one

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Speaker 1: who came out of nowhere. Yeah, you know, we didn't

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Speaker 1: like Miles Sanders. We didn't even think about you, but like,

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Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about you Bo Hubbard, right because

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Speaker 1: we're like, he's a guy behind Miles Sanders, and we

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Speaker 1: don't even like Miles Sanders. Why should we spend our

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Speaker 1: time talking about you, Ba Hubbard. But in the end,

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Speaker 1: he sort of pushed Miles Sanders aside and had a

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Speaker 1: very good season. And then Devin Singletary another one that

449
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Speaker 1: kind of came out of nowhere because we were all

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Speaker 1: excited about Damian Pierce and then he turned out to

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Speaker 1: not be productive and they went on and uh, and

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Speaker 1: it was Devin Singletary who turned into the guy there

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Speaker 1: in Houston.

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Speaker 2: One one maybe takeaway with that one is when there's

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Speaker 2: coaching changes, don't always just assume that things are gonna

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Speaker 2: Like this coaching staff had owed nothing to Damian Pierce.

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Speaker 2: He he was not one that they drafted, not one

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Speaker 2: that he you know, ran for a thousand yards with

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Speaker 2: last year. So that's one of the thing I try

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Speaker 2: to do a lot is I try to cut out

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Speaker 2: as much unknown as possible with the players.

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Speaker 3: That I'm drafting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't we do that with with like the Falcons

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Speaker 1: years ago? The Vonte Freeman was there at the end

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Speaker 1: of his like Coleman, Tevin Coleman, right that we're like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, Tevin Coleman's gonna take over, like he's the

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Speaker 1: new guy, He's the guy they drafted, and that didn't

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Speaker 1: really work out for us. But I do think I

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Speaker 1: do think generally though, there's there's something to your point there.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that was sort of WTF this season

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Speaker 1: QB injuries And not not weird that QB injuries happened,

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Speaker 1: because they always happened, but maybe the extent to which

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Speaker 1: they happened. Sixty six different quarterbacks started a game this season,

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Speaker 1: the most I believe in a non strike year, I

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Speaker 1: think since twenty since way back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: But I guess to the point we're getting to a

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Speaker 1: point now that more and more quarterback injuries are happening,

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Speaker 1: or more quarterbacks are just underperforming and teams are having

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Speaker 1: a quicker hook with them. At least forty eight quarter

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Speaker 1: or forty eight quarterbacks I should say, had at least

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Speaker 1: one one hundred pass attempts. So not only did we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of quarterbacks see the field, we had

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks play a significant amount this year,

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Speaker 1: and it made me wonder about our draft strategy going forward. Right,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people who listen to the

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Speaker 1: show probably play in super flex leagues, two quarterback leagues,

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Speaker 1: what have you. The majority of the fantasy football world

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Speaker 1: is still playing in one quarterback league, no matter how

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Speaker 1: much you might try to shame them on social media

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Speaker 1: for doing so. Don't yuck someone else's yums. Let them

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Speaker 1: play in these leagues. But it does make me wonder

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Speaker 1: should we really focus more on drafting multiple quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: one QB leagues? Knowing that the chances are good your

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Speaker 1: guy is gonna miss some time.

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: And I think it depends when you take your first quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That should dictate when you take your second. And what

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Speaker 2: I mean by that like if you use a third

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Speaker 2: round pick on Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts, you're starting

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Speaker 2: those guys if they stay healthy sixteen of the seventeen

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Speaker 2: weeks in the fantasy season. The only one you're not

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Speaker 2: is when they're on buy. So I think in that situation,

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Speaker 2: you could wait a little bit and you don't need

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Speaker 2: to take like another top twelve fantasy quarterback. You could

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Speaker 2: take a QB two that has upside or something like that,

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Speaker 2: just to cover your basis in case of an injury.

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Speaker 1: What I was a big.

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Speaker 2: Strategy a fan of strategy wise this past season, if

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Speaker 2: you waited on quarterback tick two and take like maybe

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Speaker 2: you pair one that subside and one that is safe

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Speaker 2: or something like that. And I was having combinations of

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Speaker 2: like with guys like Toua, Dak Watson, Gino, Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, and.

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Speaker 3: Some of those guys got hurt. Some of them were busts.

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Speaker 2: That's why I laugh at the people who are like

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Speaker 2: late round quarterback was clearly the play. If you took

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Speaker 2: Dak or if you took brock Party, it was awesome,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, yeah, but if you took Gino

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Speaker 2: Smith or Daniel Jones, who were going in that same

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Speaker 2: ADP range, it was terrible.

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Speaker 1: For you season.

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Speaker 2: So like, there's ways to win with either way. But

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Speaker 2: I think you it's smart to take a second quarterback

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Speaker 2: just when you take your first should dictate when you

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Speaker 2: take your second.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, yeah, no, I think that's fair. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing I know I've talked to other people

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Speaker 1: about too, that you know, if you are going big

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Speaker 1: on quarterback, if you decide you want to make that move,

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Speaker 1: like you said for Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: next year, you can wait a while. You can wait

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Speaker 1: till the double digit rounds to get your second guy

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Speaker 1: if you decide to go middle rounds and you probably

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Speaker 1: need to get one a little bit closer. I do

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Speaker 1: love your point about late round quarterbacks, and I feel

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Speaker 1: that way about about a lot of the i'll call

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Speaker 1: them alternative strategies for lack of a better description right now,

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Speaker 1: whether it's late round quarterback, whether it's zero RB when

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Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, that's the way to go. Sure, if

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Speaker 1: you picked the right guys, right Like, it's always it's

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Speaker 1: always easy to say like, oh yeah, man, I waited

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Speaker 1: and I got brought pretty late. Sure, But if you

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Speaker 1: waited and you know you took another one, you took

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, you know, kind of in the middle of

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Speaker 1: late rounds, like yeah, it wasn't as great a year

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Speaker 1: for you, right, Like, sure, maybe you took Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: late and it sort of worked out, although it didn't

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Speaker 1: really work out until mid to late in the season,

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Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson late, it wasn't really great for you.

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Speaker 1: So it really does have an impact on who you

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Speaker 1: take too. I mean, I know that's pretty basic, right

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Speaker 1: like your hashtag draft good players, but that really sort

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Speaker 1: of is is kind of the way to go. I

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Speaker 1: would also ask should you change in superflex too, QB leagues,

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Speaker 1: because I know you and I have talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I've seen in other places that a lot of times

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Speaker 1: instead of maybe trying to force a second quarterback into

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Speaker 1: a super flex lineup, that you're better off maybe try

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Speaker 1: to start a wide receiver running back, maybe even a

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Speaker 1: tight end depending on who it is. Are you more

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Speaker 1: or less likely now to maybe take a third quarterback

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Speaker 1: depending on who's left on the board at this point.

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Speaker 2: I always try to take three quarterbacks in super fle

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Speaker 2: But it's largely because I think my super Flex strategy

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Speaker 2: differs from other people where there are really a lot

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Speaker 2: of people start quarterback quarterback in super Flex, or like

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Speaker 2: within the first three rounds they have two. I always

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Speaker 2: my first round pick is always a quarterback, especially if

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Speaker 2: I can get one of the top five guys or

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Speaker 2: something like that. If they run, you know I'm targeting

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Speaker 2: that player.

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Speaker 3: But then I'll wait till like the fourth fifth round.

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Speaker 2: And again this is a lot easier to say because

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Speaker 2: I ended up getting with Brock Purty. But like in

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Speaker 2: one super Flex this year, I took Justin Herbert in

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Speaker 2: the first round, and I didn't take my second quarterback

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Speaker 2: till like the tenth round, and it was Brock Party.

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Speaker 1: And I.

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Speaker 3: Hit with him.

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Speaker 2: But I had other upside quarterbacks that I paired with.

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Speaker 2: I forget who else I had on that team, but

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Speaker 2: like I had another team where I had Alan and

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff who was going outside the top, like I

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Speaker 2: am not a get top to top twelve quarterback type

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Speaker 2: of super flex drafters, like two years ago, Daniel Jones

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Speaker 2: was someone I was taking a bunch. Is what I

587
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Speaker 2: always try to do is I try to find the

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Speaker 2: QB twos that I think can run and I'll and

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Speaker 2: have upside and I'll take like one of those, and

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Speaker 2: then I'll pair them with like a boring safe veteran

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Speaker 2: like like Russell Wilson fits the mold this year, or

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford or something like that. And it's tends to

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Speaker 2: work for me because quarterback injuries, like you said, like

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Speaker 2: the last two of the last three seasons are the

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Speaker 2: most quarterbacks that have played. Like it's there's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of turnover at the position. So I try to

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Speaker 2: get like elite wide receivers and stuff while other people

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Speaker 2: are taking their secondary quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't always work.

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Speaker 2: But I had a league one two years ago where

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Speaker 2: I won a super flex league and for most of

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Speaker 2: the year I was starting one quarterback and my I

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Speaker 2: had like a breakout running back or receiver or someone

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Speaker 2: in my super flex spot. There's ways I think people

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Speaker 2: get too like blindered into like I need two quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: right away. Or I have no chance in this league,

607
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Speaker 2: whereas I I kind of find it to be the opposite.

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Speaker 1: It's funny and like I had to sort of take

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Speaker 1: myself back to August, right when you're like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wait until the round ten or eleven and got brock

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Speaker 1: Purty and I was like what, And I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess back then, nobody really thought rock Perty was

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Speaker 1: gonna be that dude. We all thought, you know, like

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Speaker 1: it was a flash in the pan that he was

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Speaker 1: a system I mean, I guess some people still do

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Speaker 1: believe that that he's a system quarterback, but nobody expected

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Speaker 1: Brock Perry to be a top six quarterback.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter for fantasy.

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't. Like they don't ask how, they ask

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Speaker 1: how many, And I would say this, it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: matter for real football either. If you're winning, no one

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Speaker 1: really cares how it happened. They just care that it happened.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time less offseason on this

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Speaker 2: pod saying I think if you put Brock Purty on

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Speaker 2: thirty one other teams, he's not a starter. But I

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Speaker 2: was taking him in fantasy because he's tied to one

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Speaker 2: of the best offenses in football.

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Speaker 3: That's what matters.

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Speaker 1: The good news is that he wasn't on one of

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Speaker 1: these thirty one other teams. Yeah, he was on the

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Speaker 1: one team that maximized his ability. So let's just you know,

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Speaker 1: that's very much like the Hey man, if you take

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Speaker 1: away all the touchdowns this guy scored, he didn't score

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Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns. Sure, man, we can do sit

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Speaker 1: here and do hypotheticals all day, but let's just deal

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Speaker 1: with what is and what was is that brock Perty

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Speaker 1: had a really really good season. Yeah, I will say this.

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Speaker 1: I last year really went early on quarterbacks and super flex.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't always the case. This year, I had a

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Speaker 1: team where I had you know, I had Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: and to a tongue of Iloa, that's how well. Worked

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Speaker 1: out really well for most of the season. But I've

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Speaker 1: also been in leagues where it's like I get too

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Speaker 1: late in the year and my second quarterback either either

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Speaker 1: hurt or is not very good, and I found myself

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Speaker 1: plugging like another wide receiver into the super flex spot.

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Speaker 1: So I guess that's all to say, don't necessarily, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, get yourself locked into one way of thinking

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Speaker 1: there are multiple ways to succeed even in super flex leagues.

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Speaker 1: Got a little bit more WTF talk about We'll take

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Speaker 1: a quick break, come back with more on the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football podcast, talking about the things that were a

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Speaker 1: little bit weird in the twenty twenty three season, and

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Speaker 1: this one, I just said Joe Flacco because it was

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Speaker 1: like what Joe Flacco? Right, Joe Flacco from weeks thirteen

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Speaker 1: to seventeen, that was when he took over as the

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Speaker 1: starter in Cleveland, the QB two. Only Lamar Jackson had

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Speaker 1: more Fantasy points than Joe Flacco from weeks thirteen to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: The QB three in that stretch was Jake Browning, So

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Speaker 1: maybe you could throw him in here in the WTF situation. Browning, Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess both of them right. Should we have been

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Speaker 1: able to see this coming? Yeah? Maybe not to the

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Speaker 1: extent that Joe Flacco is the QB two, but like

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Speaker 1: that Joe Flacco could come in and be successful, or

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Speaker 1: that Jake Browne could come in and be successful. Should

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Speaker 1: we have seen it coming?

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Speaker 2: No, maybe to the extent like, hey, they could keep

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Speaker 2: their team afloat and they can do what the coach

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Speaker 2: is at like they could be a game manager and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is arguably playing the best football of his

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Speaker 2: career right now, at least statistically speaking. So no a

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Speaker 2: year forty quarterback signed off the couch, even like Jake

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Speaker 2: Browning awesome story. I think he should get a chance

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Speaker 2: to start next year. But when Joe Burrow went down,

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Speaker 2: You're thinking, this Bengals offense is one we could stream

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Speaker 2: defenses against now, And kudos to these guys for proving

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Speaker 2: us wrong. But maybe I need to change the process

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Speaker 2: or something. But there was a zero percent chance that

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Speaker 2: I saw either of these two coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was just trying to think about it,

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Speaker 1: right because like with Browning, they were still talent around him, right,

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Speaker 1: They still had a healthy Jamar Chase for a good

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Speaker 1: stretch of that Right, they had you know, T Higgins

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Speaker 1: was sort of in and out of the lineup, but

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Speaker 1: they had T Higgins at times. Tyler Boyd is not

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Speaker 1: a bad receiver, he's just sort of, you know, become

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Speaker 1: an afterthought in that offense. They still had Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 1: So maybe, you know, with Browning, we should have just

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Speaker 1: we should just immediately think that these guys are awful

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Speaker 1: because they're backups, right, I mean, Browning is sitting behind

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, who he considered to be a top five

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Speaker 1: quarterback in this league. Flacco, again, a guy who won

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, was a Super Bowl MVP. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: was forty years old. I has been sitting on his

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Speaker 1: couch for most of much of the season when he

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Speaker 1: comes in to an offense that had Amari Cooper still,

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Speaker 1: that had a talented David and Joku. I think with Flacco,

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Speaker 1: the thing that was weird is that he was so

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Speaker 1: good where the other Browns quarterbacks have been so bad,

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Speaker 1: where like you know, they hadn't been able to get

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Speaker 1: guys involved, right, Amari Cooper's numbers were so up and down,

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Speaker 1: David and Joku had really been invisible for much of

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Speaker 1: the season. Elijah Moore didn't really do much with Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco either, So maybe that's not a good example, but

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Speaker 1: that Flaco really lit it up with all these guys

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Speaker 1: that whether it was Deshaun Watson, Dorian Thompson, Robinson who

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Speaker 1: will started a game at quarterback for the Browns this year. PJ.

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Speaker 1: Walker right, that these guys couldn't get any production out

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Speaker 1: of this group of skill position guys, and Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: came in and immediately got it done. And now the

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Speaker 1: Browns are looking like one of those teams that nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to deal with in the playoffs. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: know how good their defense is, and now they're moving

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Speaker 1: the ball and scoring points on offense. They are scary.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you. I mean, I don't think there

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Speaker 1: was any way to really predict this.

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Speaker 2: The Browns couldn't even predict this because they would have

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Speaker 2: signed Joe Flacco earlier, and they wouldn't. They gave the

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Speaker 2: largest guaranteed contract in NFL history to a quarterback who

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Speaker 2: threw less than five hundred yards fewer and six fewer

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Speaker 2: touchdowns in one more game than Joe Flacco played in

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Speaker 2: this same offense. So even the Browns I don't think

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Speaker 2: saw this coming. But this is what it is. Man.

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is on like an Eli Manning run, one

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Speaker 2: of those where like they're just seeing red and they're

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Speaker 2: running red hot. It is going to hit a wall

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Speaker 2: at some point. My prediction is when they play the

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Speaker 2: Ravens in the playoffs, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I mean, which they have to play, right, because

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Speaker 1: we're getting all these reunis. We're getting Mike McCarthy going

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Speaker 1: against the Packers. We're getting you know, the Rams, Rams,

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Speaker 1: Lions reunions there, right, So we absolutely need to get

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco going against the Ravens in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs and Bills win this weekend. All that all we

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Speaker 2: need is then the Browns to win and it is

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Speaker 2: lined up for next week.

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Speaker 1: That's all we need. So we'll see if that if

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Speaker 1: that actually happens, But Joe Flacco definitely one of the

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Speaker 1: big wtfs of the twenty twenty three fantasy football season

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Speaker 1: before we finished. Want to do a way too early

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Speaker 1: first round, mak. I know a lot of folks are

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Speaker 1: doing them. I am actually in actually just made a

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Speaker 1: couple of picks in a slow mock draft that I'm

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Speaker 1: in right now. We're not gonna sit here and torch

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Speaker 1: you with a full fifteen rounds. We're gonna do it

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Speaker 1: first round. We'll go back and forth for twelve teams.

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Speaker 1: FLORYA and I just picking what we think will be

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Speaker 1: the order for next year. So I will allow you

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Speaker 1: to go first. Just a little explanation and the name

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Speaker 1: for who you are picking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said the other day, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: there'll be a consensus number one, but the one that

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Speaker 2: I think is gonna go most often is who I

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Speaker 2: will take, and that is Christian McCaffrey, who in the

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Speaker 2: last five years has three of the best fantasy seasons

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Speaker 2: by a running back ever. Would have been just the

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Speaker 2: fourth running back ever to get four hundred points if

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Speaker 2: he didn't get hurt late in the season. Even getting hurt,

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Speaker 2: no other running back was within a hundred fantasy points

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Speaker 2: of him. So yeah, easy, easy CMC pick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I've already sort of staked my claim

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Speaker 1: that Christian McCaffrey is going to be my one Dot one,

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Speaker 1: just because of the running back situation is for number

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Speaker 1: two a lot of different ways I could go. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you. It's gonna be a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver and a lot of different options out there, a

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Speaker 1: lot of different guys who are producing this year, who

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Speaker 1: were in really good situations. But my number two pick

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Speaker 1: coming into this offseason, I guess early next season is

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Speaker 1: gonna be Jamar Chase. I looked at I thought Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 1: I thought Tyreek Hill, I thought Justin Jefferson. But one

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Speaker 1: expecting a fully healthy Joe Burrow next year. Very likely

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Speaker 1: that T Higgins is going to be playing elsewhere next season,

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Speaker 1: which means that opens up a few more opportunities for

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. You just got a quarterback and a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver who really work well together, go hand in hand,

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Speaker 1: who when everything is right, are good for big plays.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know that is the case for a

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Speaker 1: lot of these other guys too, right. I think Ceedee

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Speaker 1: Lamb could very well have slid into this spot. I

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Speaker 1: think Tyreek Hill and Tua can team continue to do

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Speaker 1: big things, although the pace that they were on this

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Speaker 1: year seems unsustainable. Jefferson I worry about just because I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with Kirk Cousins. But Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase here and Joe Burrow seemed locked in, So he's

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Speaker 1: my number two.

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Speaker 3: There's four wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: I think that could be number one overall, and Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase is the sneaky one because he hasn't done it yet.

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Speaker 2: But I mean to the level of like a Jefferson

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Speaker 2: Lamb on a hill. But I love that pick because

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Speaker 2: healthy Joe Burrow and maybe no T Higgins, But I

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Speaker 2: will go with the player I thought you were gonna

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Speaker 2: take at two this year's wide receiver one, even though

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Speaker 2: we all know it would have been Tyreek Hill had

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Speaker 2: he stayed healthy the final month of the season.

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Speaker 3: But give me ce D Lamb.

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Speaker 2: The reason I took Lamb over Tyreek is because he

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Speaker 2: is younger and I believe he is tied to the

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Speaker 2: better quarterback. Even though I like the Dolphins offense more,

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Speaker 2: I think they might have to answer some difficult questions

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Speaker 2: this offseason. Is to the guy that they're gonna trust

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Speaker 2: moving forward. So I'll take the one that is locked

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Speaker 2: in and has great rapport with their quarterback. With Ceede

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Speaker 2: Lamb and Dak there.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we got cem See, We've got Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 1: we got Ceedee Lamb off the board in the first

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Speaker 1: three picks. At number four, Well, there are still a

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Speaker 1: couple of those top notch receivers out there, and yes,

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Speaker 1: his team does have questions to answer this offseason. I

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Speaker 1: saw a tweet from a columnist in Miami saying that

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Speaker 1: maybe if they lose in the first round, then Mike

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Speaker 1: McDaniel will be on the hot seat in Miami. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. I will still take Tyreek Hill at the

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Speaker 1: number four spot. Yeah, maybe he doesn't start next season

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Speaker 1: on fire and on pace for two thousand yards. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about a guy who left Patrick Mahomes and statistically

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Speaker 1: got better. That is how good Tyreek Hill has been.

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Speaker 1: And look, I still think he is good enough regardless

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Speaker 1: of who the quarterback is going to be, and I

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Speaker 1: still think it'll be Tua. But regardless of who it is,

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Speaker 1: he's good enough to be one of the top notch

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Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL and fantasy. And if I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: at number four and the board goes the way it did,

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Speaker 1: I will gladly take Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 3: I love that pick.

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Speaker 2: I am rooting for Tyreek Hill this weekend to go off.

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Speaker 2: I know the NFL wants Patrick mahomes first road playoff

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Speaker 2: game to be in Buffalo, but I'm rooting for Tyreek

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Speaker 2: Hill there. I'm gonna make a little noise here with

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Speaker 2: this pick because I think a lot of people would

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Speaker 2: be thinking about that other wide receiver that we've already mentioned.

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Speaker 3: I'm going off script here.

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Speaker 1: Sat Brown.

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Speaker 2: I love it continues to get better this year. Finished

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Speaker 2: as the wide receiver three. I don't think like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there was a gap between CD and Tyreek, then it

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Speaker 2: was a Manra and then there was a gap between

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Speaker 2: every other wide receiver in this league. So he just

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Speaker 2: gets better every single year. He dyed his hairlines blue.

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Speaker 2: I am excited for him. Give me the sun God.

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Speaker 1: I still imagine him every single night going to sleep

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Speaker 1: like like Aria Stark, just listing off a name, listening

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Speaker 1: off the names of all the wide receivers drafted ahead

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Speaker 1: of him. Yeah, maybe a little bit outside the box,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's awesome. I think that's a great pick.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate it at all. Well, just because this

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Speaker 1: guy is falling, I think I think it's time to

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Speaker 1: stop the slot talking about the guy who was the

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Speaker 1: closest thing to a consensus number one overall pick in

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Speaker 1: last year's drafts. And yes, I mentioned I know there

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Speaker 1: are concerns about what his quarterback situation is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Kirk Cousins taking the discount is the difference, and

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Speaker 1: if so, getting Justin Jefferson at number six could turn

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Speaker 1: out to be a little bit of a value. So

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Speaker 1: he's still one of the best receivers in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think having Jordan Addison lined up across from him

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Speaker 1: will only help throw in the fact that TJ. Hawkinson

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Speaker 1: likely not to be there at the start of the

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Speaker 1: year after suffering a knee injury late in the season,

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Speaker 1: so that means maybe more targets for Jefferson early in

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Speaker 1: the season. You're talking about any elite wide receiver falling

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Speaker 1: to six, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you agree, because there's still plenty

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Speaker 2: of talent left on the board. I feel like after

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00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: these five is where we get the first fall off

868
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: at the wide receiver position. Yeah, so I'm gonna pivot.

869
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a running back here, and I'm

870
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: going to go to one of the teams I root

871
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: against often, Breece Hall with the New York Jets, because

872
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: he finished as the RB two this year. Despite how

873
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: inept the Jets offense looks, they're gonna have Aaron Rodgers

874
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: back next year. He is going to be a full

875
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: year removed from that knee surgery. Won't get off to

876
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: a slow start. We should have even more burst. I

877
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: think Breece Hall might be the only running back who

878
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: could rival Christian McCaffrey next year.

879
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I think so too, And again it depends on Aaron

880
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers being healthy. But as you mentioned, even without him

881
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: being there was still the RB two, although granted, like

882
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: a hundred points.

883
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: Behind Chris McCaffrey in fifty next year, right one hundred

884
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: points behind Christian McCaffrey, who did not play Week eighteen.

885
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: So seventeen, yeah I did. He he left halfway through

886
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: the Week seventeen game, and it's still still with one

887
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: hundred points better than the next best running back but

888
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: Breese Hall. I know I said recently that like I

889
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: think Christian McCaffrey is going to be the only Round

890
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: one running back that was I would admit be maybe

891
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: being a little hit sterical in the moment. There will

892
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: be others, just not that many this year. So at

893
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: number eight, there are a lot of options I think

894
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: available here, but I'm gonna take a guy who was

895
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: like a late first round pick last season, but I

896
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: think what he did this year warrants him moving up now.

897
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: Granted he sort of faded at the end of last year,

898
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: but still in what should be a good offense with

899
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: a good young quarterback attached to him, I will take

900
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: Batman himself from Philadelphia, AJ Brown at the number eight spot.

901
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if look, he had that stretch with

902
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: what six straight games. I think it was with one

903
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five or more. Yards. I mean, that's

904
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: asking a lot, but it does remind you of the

905
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: big play potential for AJ Brown and how much the

906
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: passing game is going to lean on him and DeVonta

907
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Smith to an extent. And even if the Eagles don't

908
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: score as many points, I still think AJ browns He's

909
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: a ton of targets and I will take him At eight.

910
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna take either AJ Brown or this next player,

911
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: so you made my choice pretty easy.

912
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm curious to hear your.

913
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: Thoughts if after nine you think there might start to

914
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a drop off overall. But

915
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: give me the RAMS RB one and Kyn Williams, who

916
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: finished this year's the RB two in points per game,

917
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: finished a little bit lower than that because he missed

918
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: some time.

919
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: And I get the.

920
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: People who are like fifth round pick ankle issues, he

921
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: can't do it again, and I'm like, I don't care

922
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: about draft capital after seen a player do what Kyn

923
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: Williams has done in this RAMS system. He is the

924
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: second coming of Todd Gurley for Sean McVay, and we

925
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: know McVeigh when he has a running back that he

926
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: trusts will give him all of the volume, and that's

927
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: what he's done with Kyrien Williams. So I don't expect

928
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: the Rams to bring in another big name running back

929
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: or anything like that.

930
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: I think Kyron is going to be their guy next year.

931
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, draft capital matters when you're talking about rookie seasons

932
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: or you're comparing you know a guy who was just

933
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: sort of meh, But we talk about guy Kyrin Williams,

934
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: who first Rams running back to go for a thousand

935
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: yards since Gurly in twenty eighteen. You throw a draft

936
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: capital out the window and you just look at the production.

937
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: So quick recap. I got Christian McCaffrey at one, Jamar

938
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Chase at two, Seedee Lamb three, Tyreek Kill at four,

939
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Saint Brown at five, Justin Jefferson at six,

940
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: Breeze Hall seven, A J. Brown at eight, and Kyrien

941
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Williams goes at nine. So three more picks here in

942
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: the first round, and hmmm, a lot of options of

943
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: where to go, but I do think the place that

944
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: I am going to go to is weirdly, two not

945
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: only two jets in the first round, two jets in

946
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: the top ten, we're gonna go with Garrett Wilson, who's

947
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: changing his number a number five. He and Thomas Morris

948
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: State apparently worked out a deal enough. You saw this

949
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: on I think it was Instagram. He posted it him

950
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: and Morstead Dowey, sort of a Jersey swap to speak.

951
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: And then number five going over to Garrett Wilson. This

952
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: is a guy who, all things considered, had an amazing

953
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: season despite a ton of quarterback issues around him in

954
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: New York. He was a late first round, early second

955
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: round pick last year when we thought Aaron Rodgers was

956
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback, and seeing him do what

957
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: he did with Zach Wilson and Trevor Simeon and who

958
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: else did they have? They're all the bad quarterbacks there

959
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: in New York scrolling remember Tim Boyle, he was still

960
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: I had to remember. I had to remind myself. I

961
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: don't know how I forgot the Christmas Day Hail Mary

962
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: pick six that he threw. But despite all of that,

963
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson still went for over one thousand yards, still

964
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: had ninety five catches. So you get a healthy Aaron

965
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers back there. Garrett Wilson, even at ten that

966
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: might be a little bit late. We'll see, but I'll

967
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: gladly take him at ten. I know we're gonna have

968
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: this conversation all summer long. I really am curious, say

969
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: for another podcast, but Jordan love Out producing.

970
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: What Aaron Rodgers did a year before. It's something we

971
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: need to talk about.

972
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: I think we have a dialogue.

973
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I am debating here between this will be two

974
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: second year running backs. You know, a lot could change

975
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: for one of them and could make me put him

976
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: here at number eleven. But I'm going to take the

977
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: one on the better offense who looked the part this year.

978
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Give me Jamir Gibbs, who I thought he'd be in

979
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: RB one this year. Not only was he in Harby one,

980
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: he was the RB what he finished, Oh he finished

981
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: at ten, but on a per game basis, he was

982
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: a lot better than that. So explosive, so dynamic as

983
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: a pass catcher, as a runner can be used near

984
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: the goal line. The only concern is David Montgomery will

985
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: be back next year, which maybe could be I take

986
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: a different quarterback of running back there if the other

987
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: guy gets some things.

988
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: To go his way. But I think Gibbs is a

989
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: first round pick next.

990
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: Year, all right, So then that makes it easy for

991
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: me to take at number twelve because I'm sure that

992
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: the other running back you're thinking about is the guy

993
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about right now. And we talked about

994
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 1: the coaching situation in Atlanta at the start of the show,

995
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: and yes, we don't know who's going to be calling

996
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: plays in Atlanta, but Bjeon Robinson has been freed from

997
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: the shackles of Arthur Smith's offense. You've gotta believe whoever

998
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: comes in next is going to feature him heavily in

999
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: the offense. And I know that a lot of people

1000
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: were let down we had Bijon as a high first

1001
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: round pick next season. Last season it didn't work out,

1002
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of people are gonna look

1003
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: at that and you know, be a little bit hesitant.

1004
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: I do think the fantasy community as a hole is

1005
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: going to be a lot more excited about him this year.

1006
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 1: And I think he's got to stay in the first round,

1007
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: So I will put him at number twelve to round

1008
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: out our first round. So I mean looking at this

1009
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: no Puka Nakua in the first round, trying to think

1010
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: who else might have been able to like No Stefan

1011
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: Diggs in the first round. No Jonathan Taylor in the

1012
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: first round. But this feels okay for it.

1013
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: To be you know, Hookah Digs. I did not consider JT.

1014
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 2: But I think all of those guys are early second

1015
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: round picks. And if you have a late first round pick,

1016
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: you could get two studs on your team next year.

1017
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely, which is wild because right because like so, let's

1018
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: say you do a Bijon Bijon Robinson, what hookah stack

1019
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: of Bijon Stefan Digs back to back? I mean, those

1020
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: are all options the pretty good start your first two

1021
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: picks to a draft sitting in that that last spot

1022
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: there in the first round, so yeah, just will be

1023
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: the last one we do.

1024
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 3: And two lines in the top twelve picks.

1025
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: Who could have saw that come? You could have seen

1026
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: that coming? That is wild. Imagine me telling my you know,

1027
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: fifteen year old self that first time I was explained

1028
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: to my fifteen year old self what fantasy football was,

1029
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: and then I'd have to explain to them that the

1030
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: hey man, you picked two Jets in the first round

1031
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: and two line in the first round just kind of wild. Oh,

1032
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: we'll do some more of these obviously, as the off

1033
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: season goes along. At some point we'll try to get

1034
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: a full mock draft in here too as well, so

1035
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, keep an eye out for that as we

1036
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: get through the off season. We'll be back with you

1037
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: on Thursday. We will dive into the Super wild Card weekend.

1038
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: I'll get you some DFS picks for that as well,

1039
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: and I don't know, we'll figure out something else to

1040
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: talk about too. There will be news or something or

1041
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: just we'll make it up as we go along whatever regardless,

1042
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy

1043
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. They happy, save a healthy, do good, and

1044
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: live well. Enjoy the week, everybody. We'll talk to you

1045
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: again real soon. Wo