1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: am Shad Milman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Today is our week three Thursday NFL episode. This is 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: the episode where we're going to get feedback from the 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: wise guys who listen to the show. We're gonna narrow 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: down our bets to five. 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Now, let's bring in my co host, my companion, 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: my capadre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter. 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: Heat. Oh so waymen, Chad, how we doing, my guy? 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: Dude? 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: We are freaking great. The Chicago Bears, which we're going 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: to get into, are falling apart in the span of 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: an hour. I feel really enthusiastic about this weekend. Slate 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: had a great couple of days in New York. How 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: are you feeling house things in ac you love in life? 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: It's good. No, I'm looking forward to getting out of here. 36 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: This is my last day here making some bets tonight. 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: I'll stay for the Thursday game and I'm heading back 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: towards Philly area. 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I'm talking Rain Rain telephone range, somebody saying, 59 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: maybe what should do? 60 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: Man? 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: I wish i'd give another Thursday game. I wish the 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: pros were with us on this Giants game Chat but 63 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: I just haven't heard too many, you know, really sharp 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: groups coming in heavy on this. They've touched it, they've 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: touched the tenth and a half on the Giants team, 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: but it's way more split than people would believe. A 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: lot a lot of pros do like this fort nineers team. 68 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: They like them here in the short week. So yeah, 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: last week Thursday was definitely the Pros versus Joe's the 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: Pros all over that Vikings seven, six and a half six, 71 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: So not the same for this Thursday, but for the 72 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: Sunday slate, not too shocking. The games, I'll start with 73 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: the one that's shocked me the most, which is a 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: game I thought me and you would just stay away from. 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: They love the Browns jet like every pro I've talked 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: to loves the Browns against this Tennessee team in the spot. 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: So that's a game we're definitely have to go through. 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: I'm shocked by it, Like I get where they're coming from, 79 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: this Browns team, and I'll let down spot for Tennessee, 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: but I don't know. The three and a half is 81 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: just scaring me. So definitely a game we need to 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: talk about as that could be one of the you 83 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: know could be one of the favorites we take. Another 84 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: favorite they love this week is Vegas. We've seen this 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: number move from plus one and a half it's now 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: two and a half in a lot of books. Not 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: that shocking. Another line the pros love this week the Saints. 88 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 3: I know a really smart group that came in heavy 89 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: on the Saints, and they came in heavy on Washington. 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: So these are two teams that they clearly believe in. 91 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: And the last one is a game we already talked about, 92 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: which we'll talk again as the Bucks like. The pros 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: like the Bucks against this banged up Eagles secondary. Say 94 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: what you want about this Bucks team, we all know 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: they're not as good as our record stage right. They 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: played against a Vikings team I was due for aggression, 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: and they played against a Bears team that they haven't 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: won a game in like a year. So not that 99 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: shocking that the Bucks are two and zero and that 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: the Eagles are clearly a better team on paper. But 101 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: I think everyone's in agreement. All the pros are in agreement. 102 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: The Eagles got a lot of injuries, and those injuries 103 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: in the secondary are a big deal against that Bucks team, 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: So not too shocking. Here and that they love the 105 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: dogs this week, but they like two favorites as well, 106 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: like the Vegas one. I'm shocked they still look at 107 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: it two and a half and that Browns minus three 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: and a half. The Pros are on it. So it 109 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: really I did think that the Pros would be on 110 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: Tennessee with the public, but it looks like that's just 111 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: a public dog this week, taking the Tennessee team up 112 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: plus three and a half. 113 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna dig deeper on that game. I 114 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: think you know you and I we talked about this. 115 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: We do the Favorite Film Room for YouTube only. We 116 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: went deep on that game when we did that yesterday. 117 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: If you have not watched it, it's really cool. Simon 118 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: and I break down plays from the previous week that 119 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: impacted bets that we were on but also help us 120 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: make decisions about bets going forward. We looked at Sam 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Howell and the Commanders. The wise guys love the Commanders 122 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: this week against the Bills. And we looked at the 123 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans O line, which we'll be having a very 124 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: hard time against. Miles Garrett and the Browns. Great stats 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: on how dominant the Browns defense has been. I want 126 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: to get much deeper into that game, because it is 127 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: really I think it's the most interesting game on the board, 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: and we talked a lot about it on Tuesday. 129 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: Look kudos to you. 130 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I stupidly did not bet the Raiders 131 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: at plus one and a half. I have now bet 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: them at two and a half. Stucky in Raybund also 133 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: talked about the Raiders on the Action Network podcasts and 134 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: how bad this Pittsburgh team is. We'll dig a little 135 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: bit deeper into that one. But on Sunday you said 136 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: bet the Raiders at plus one and a half. So 137 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: oh man, we got so many games to talk about. 138 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: The wise guys are in line with us in a 139 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: lot of these conversations. As a reminder, you can catch 140 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: every episode of The Favorites live on you Tube. So 141 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: for those enjoying on YouTube, don't forget to give us 142 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: a like and subscribe to the Action Network YouTube page. Simon, 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: we got to start narrowing down our games. We got 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: to get to our Foxhull, we got to get to 145 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: Survivor Big Balls Bet. 146 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: Of the Week. We're gonna start with the Bears at 147 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: plus twelve and a half. 148 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned this on Tuesday, yesterday afternoon, this team basically 149 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: started falling apart. The story heading into the afternoon was 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: justin Field saying he's robotic because of his coaches. Then 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator resigns, who already wasn't calling plays last week, 152 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: resigns for health reasons. The rapid fire texts and alerts 153 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: I got yesterday while I was in a very important 154 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: businessman met. I split my time between star talent and 155 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: extremely capable media executive, And in the middle of this 156 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: very important meeting where I'm talking high stakes, I got 157 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: my son texted me about breaking news on the defensive coordinator. 158 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: Then my friends are losing it about the defensive coordinator, 159 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: texting me NonStop, and then I get news that Nathan 160 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: Peterman was released. And my feeling on this is like, 161 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: that's a smoke screen because the defense they're like, the 162 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: Bears are such an incompetent. 163 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: Organization right now. 164 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 1: They're like, if we make a roster move and release 165 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, people won't realize that our quarterback is calling 166 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: at our coaches in there work and that our defensive 167 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: coordinator is resigning. Nathan Peterman was picked back up today. 168 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: By the way, dude, what the fuck with this team, man, 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: I know how I feel about emotionally. I said on Tuesday, 170 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: the Bears don't get enough credit for being a really 171 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: historically poorly run, incompetent organization, and it pains me to 172 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: say that. I know so many people in that organization 173 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: who are amazing. I feel like the organization itself is 174 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: handcuffed because of ownership. 175 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: That's it. 176 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: I just think the McCaskey Hollas rain has been disastrous 177 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: since about nineteen sixty. 178 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. Football always stop starts at the top down right. 179 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: I feel like you go through any organization, it's like 180 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: you have to have all three. You have to have 181 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: an owner that knows their place and knows how to 182 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: hire the right people and put them in positions. Then 183 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 3: you have the GM, then the coach, then the quarterback, 184 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: and it feels like you guys have been lacking like 185 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: the most important things, which is the quarterback, the coach, 186 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: and the GM. And it's been for years now. I mean, 187 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: I know that all those stories yesterday was a lot 188 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: of just bs, right, all the rumors fly and everything 189 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: it turned out to be not true. But stuff that 190 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: was true was you had a quarterback that has the 191 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: worst winning percentage in football ever in fields as a starter, 192 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: bad mouthing his coaches, and you know, that's exactly what 193 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: you don't want to hear from a guy who was 194 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: missing open reads. Okay, that wasn't his coach's fault, that 195 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: was him, and that's just such It's something you just 196 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: don't want to do because that just shows weak, like 197 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 3: you're a weak person, like you're a weak mentally if 198 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: you're you're trying to push the blame on other people 199 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: instead of just owning up, which is what I think 200 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: all Bears fans want to hear, was him take onus 201 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 3: on himself and say that he has tough to improve. 202 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: That's how simple would have been, instead of throwing his 203 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: coaches under the bus. So I wanted to be on 204 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: the Bear's chat. I still might throw a little on them, 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: but I mean, how can you default anybody for taking 206 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: the chiefs here? Like the Bears seem like an absolute 207 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: train wreck, and you know it's it's rare a team 208 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 3: can have this much drama during the week and prepare 209 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: for the defending Super Bowl champions. So it is a 210 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: nightmarison air for Barrs fans. Staring O three in the face, 211 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: and not that it's a guarantee they're gonna be knowing three, 212 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: but it feels like they signed it this week. Just 213 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 3: being unfocused dealing with all this with the media. I mean, 214 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: how many other teams are dealing with all this in 215 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: the media this week? It feels like none. It feels 216 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: like it's just the Bear. So yeah, I feel bad 217 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: for you Chat and all Bears fans. It's just been 218 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: a train wreck this past season so much. 219 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: Do you know what's interesting? Simon? 220 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: You make such a good point about justin Field's response 221 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: to the poor Star. This was a leadership opportunity. This 222 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: was a chance for him to step up and say 223 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I own this. I'm going to be better, This team 224 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: is going to be better. I'm going to put them 225 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: on my back. And he immediately looked forward excuses. 226 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: And got defensive. 227 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: This is like the argument I have with my sixteen 228 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: year old when I call him out on something, and 229 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: like he immediately gets defensive and tries to deflect the blame, 230 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, dude, do you know how much 231 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: easier your life is and how much more respect you 232 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: get from people if you just admit the mistake and 233 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: you move on No one's going to hold over your head. 234 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: They're just going to say, like, all right, he gets it. 235 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: I understand, let's move on to the next thing. 236 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: I don't. 237 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're a bad person, but let's focus 238 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: on what's going wrong and I'll work together to make 239 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: it better. And I don't feel like that's happening in 240 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: the Bear's locker room right now. Here's a stat you 241 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: just mentioned, Justin Field's lowest career win percentage. This is 242 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: from JPA Football at JAS Football on Twitter, but JPA 243 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Football on Twitter as well. This will be the first 244 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: time in fifty three years with a QB with the 245 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: highest career win percentage and Patrick Mahomes plays the QB 246 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: with the lowest career win percentage. He also put a 247 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: nice little reminder the Bears opted to not draft Patrick 248 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes in twenty seventeen to trade up, as I used 249 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: to remind people before Mitch Trubisky was traded. 250 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: To trade up for Mitch true Bisky. So there we go. 251 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: We got that. That's the Bears talk right now. 252 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: And even then, though even if they had drafted him, 253 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: can you imagine him with your guys, Matt Naggie and 254 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: the coaching tree you had in Chicago and your offensive weapons. 255 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: It was like imagine going from Mahomes, going from Kelsey 256 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: and Tyree Hill to start your career to what the 257 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 3: Bears had. I just don't again, don't know if it 258 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: would have matter, if they would have drafted them. It's 259 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: just it's just all negative right now for the Bears. 260 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: One last stat and then we're moving on to the 261 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: Texans and the Jags, which is a game that we 262 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: both love. When opponents score more than twenty points versus 263 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: a Justin Fields Bears team, they are eighteen and oh 264 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: straight up, all five Justin Field's wins have come with 265 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: opponents scoring twenty points or less. Bears are fucked, all right. 266 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: This line, the Texans and the Jags. We circled this 267 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: game the other day. We talked about it when it 268 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: was eight and a half. The line has moved to 269 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: seven and a half. Full disclosure, I missed the eight 270 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,599 Speaker 1: and a half. I still better at seven and a 271 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: half because I know eight is becoming a key number. 272 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: But I just decided I like the Texans did anything 273 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: more than a touchdown. 274 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 4: In this game. 275 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: Some good trends that I stole from Chris Raybon in 276 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: the Action Network podcast the six Pack segment he does 277 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: with Stucky. 278 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: How are you feeling about the Texans? 279 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: You said the other day c J Stroud has been 280 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: really good, And I looked at his stats after because 281 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: I was skeptical, and you're right, no interceptions, completing sixty 282 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: four percent of his pass, has a lot of yardage, 283 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: garbage yardage, but still doing the job that's in front 284 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: of them. 285 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just again, I wasn't saying this guy is 286 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: like all world. It's just one of those where it's 287 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: nice to see he can make the throws. I mean, 288 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: you're a Barriers fan. Justin Field's whole life is in 289 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: garbage time. He's never hit a higher number than CJ's throw. 290 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: So it is one of those where you got to 291 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: make the throws just because you're getting a shell defense. 292 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: And this number actually touched ten at a couple of 293 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: books chat and the pro money did come in and 294 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: hit it down. I'm still seeing nine of a couple 295 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: of books. It's good value there. I mean, everyone's seen 296 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: the stat in his career. Trevor Lawrence is a favorite, 297 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: is zero to four. So I mean, what do we 298 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: do ats this guy? Doesn't cover as a favorite. It's 299 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: a big number, and I know everyone's keeps saying like 300 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: this is a good bounce back spot for the Jaguars. 301 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: It's just there's little things that with this offense, I 302 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: have questions And even even if they do get a lead, 303 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: I think we'll always have a chance at a back 304 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: door here, Chad with this with this Texans offense, So 305 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm not going crazy on this one. Yeah, I'm waiting 306 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: to see what's happening with their offensive line. Like they've 307 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: had major guys missing from that offensive line, which count 308 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: was supposed to play, and that's a big deal to me. 309 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: Like if he's back and they have someone to stop 310 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: Josh Allen coming off that edge, or you know, any 311 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: of these pass rushers of the Jaguars have, that's a 312 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 3: big deal. So as a QB that has been running 313 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: for his life, I'm excited to see what CJ looks 314 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: like with a good offensive line and his best off 315 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: offensive lineman out there. So, like Chad said, you can 316 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: still get the nine, you can still grab the eight 317 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: and a half. I just grab it now because I 318 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: do I do see it dropping down as we close 319 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: serit of game time, we're playing the number here and 320 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: this is a good number. Like I couldn't I could 321 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: not believe they got the ten at one point. Now 322 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: it makes sense it's going down towards eight seven and 323 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: a half, like that's where it should be. 324 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: I misspoke. I apologize. I was thinking about the Colts 325 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: and the Ravens. I got the Texans a plus nine 326 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: and a half the other day. It's still settling around 327 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: nine eight and a half. But this is a big 328 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: pros Joe's game, and you can see like a clear 329 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: discrepancy tickets on the Jag money on the Texans simon 330 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: this Also, we've talked about this, like we're making our 331 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: contest picks our five faves on Sunday at about eleven 332 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: forty five, after we do another bet three six five show. 333 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: Convinced me on Sunday mornings at eleven that might. 334 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Be too late because we could lock in some games 335 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: that we love right now at better numbers. When we're 336 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: seeing on Sunday with these lines changing, we got to 337 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: start thinking about some game theory here. 338 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hate that. 339 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: I don't hate that at all. 340 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: Another game, but right now, what would you say? I 341 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: would say, like I got the Texans a comfortable putting 342 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: in the five. 343 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to see what the offensive line is. Like, 344 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: I'm not putting them in if they still have two 345 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: starters out on that offensive line, Like that's it's too 346 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: much to ask of a rookie quarterback with the offensive lineman. 347 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: All Right, the Pats they touched three. Now it's down 348 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: to two and a half, which is interesting to me. 349 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: I got it at two and a half. We talked 350 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: about it. We love Bill Belichick in this spot. Why 351 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: did it go to two and a half. Who's playing 352 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: the Jets? 353 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: The Pros? They just it's it's a home divisional dog 354 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: with a great defense. But I mean, you don't care. 355 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: We will walk into this trap. We will trust the 356 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: numbers that Belichick against these quarterbacks who are terrible. Are 357 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: these are the games he wins? Like this this Patriot defense. 358 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: And if you're scared of this and you just want 359 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: to take the under, I totally get it. Thunder is 360 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: insanely low. It's like thirty seven and a half. Like 361 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: that's a tough player where I think it's just safe 362 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: for going with this Patriots team that I trust them 363 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: to put the points up, Like I see I see 364 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: ways for Mac to drive the field and get points 365 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 3: for me and with Zach Wilson. And how horrible that 366 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: Patriots off I mean that Jets offensive line is I 367 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: just don't see it. I mean, you can look at 368 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 3: the numbers right now through two games, them and Pittsburgh 369 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 3: are giving up the most pressure right now, there are 370 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: two teams at anytime they're playing against really good defensive lines. Chad, mean, 371 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: you're always gonna kind of be skewed to the other team. 372 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: So it's a nice matchup for this Patriots team. It's 373 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 3: a must win, desperate team. They know they're staying zero 374 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: three in the face. So we could be walking to 375 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: the trap chat like we always say that when they 376 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 3: move it from three to two and a half and 377 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: they're letting you take the favorite. It's always a little scary. 378 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: But I'll walk into I'll take this and I'll back 379 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: Belichick in the spot. So another team that we like 380 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: the favorite and the Pros do like the dog. 381 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: We got screwed with this on the Browns in the 382 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: exact same situation with almost the exact same number, right, Yeah, 383 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: better defense. Crazy quirky things happen in the NFL. I 384 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: feel like the Patriots have gotten unlucky in a couple 385 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: of games. In the luck rankings, they are the most 386 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: unlucky team after two weeks. We're playing the percentages from 387 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: a luck rankings point of view, and I trust that 388 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: as much as anything like that has become sort of 389 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: for me a huge factor when thinking about these games. 390 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: The percentage of coverage for a luck for a team 391 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: that has been unlucky in this position is north of 392 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: sixty percent, So I'm not uncomfortable with this at all. 393 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: I've marked it down past minus two and a half 394 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: as a near mortal locke for the contest. 395 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think people are just off of the 396 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: Belichick thing. I mean, I had two pros on me 397 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: yesterday and they were just bad mouthing them. I made 398 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: them come inside, I made them watch that Rams Patriots 399 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and it's just like, this is why Belichick's 400 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: one of the greatest coaches ever. He totally took away 401 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: everything McVeigh wanted to do on that offense, and I 402 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: think people just forget that because he did have Brady 403 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: was incredible, But this man defensively is so smart. 404 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: Denver, the Broncos O Denver Broncos touched seven for a 405 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: minute last week. This was our exec decision. By the way, 406 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: we still owe people the foxhole. We still owe them 407 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: the big balls. 408 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: I don't know if you do. 409 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: You want to do Patriots of their foxhole? 410 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 4: I was thinking about that, yeah, because it. 411 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: Feels like it's going to be just in the public 412 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: on this one, Like no pros are jumping in this Foxhoila. 413 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: All right, we're going to the fox. 414 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: Hole, you know me, regardless of what's going on. I'm 415 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: a foxhole guy. I commit to a team, I commit 416 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: to a city. I'm a foxhole guy. 417 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: By the way, I'd love to have Bill Belichick in 418 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 4: my foxhole. 419 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: Me too, wouldn't you. Yeah, did you see this meme 420 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: going around Chad? It was like women asking their boyfriends 421 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: and their husbands how often they think of ancient Rome. 422 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it made. 423 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: Me think of like, if someone came around, like how 424 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: often do you think of Bill Belichick, it'd probably be 425 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: like once or twice a week. The man's always on 426 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: my mind. 427 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: He is always on my mind because I feel like 428 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: he's still some kind of Spengali even if like the 429 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: team isn't performing well and isn't making the playoffs, and 430 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: I think what he did last year with Joe Judge 431 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: and Matt Patricia was actually borderline like abusive from Mac Jones. 432 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: I still think he's so good strategically because I think 433 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: it's all he thinks about me too. All Right, so 434 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: we're in the foxhole with Bill Belichick. Don't mind that 435 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: at all. We still owe with big balls. It's very 436 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: possible this next game is the big balls because Denver 437 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: plus six and a half, which was also our exec decision. 438 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: I still love it. It's like becoming one of my 439 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: favorite players of the week. 440 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: I love it, but I'm definitely scared where like, I 441 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: don't know, talk to twenty pros and maybe three of 442 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: them for their group are putting big money on this 443 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 3: Denver side with us and a lot of guys who. 444 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: Those three pros are the most influential of the twenty 445 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: you spoke. 446 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 3: To, right, I wish I was so, but no, they're definitely. 447 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: They're definitely not in the pecking order, but they are 448 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: really sharp guys, and I think they're coming from the 449 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: same standpoint of me, which is I think Russ is 450 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: way better than people are giving them credit for. This 451 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: starts of the season, and you know, Sean Payton, one 452 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: of the best coaches, one of the guys I really respect. 453 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: It really hasn't been his fault. It's been the defense 454 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: that's really let them down in this Denver team, and 455 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 3: they have the playbook now. They saw what the Patriots did, 456 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 3: and we're gonna see really fast if other teams start 457 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: implementing the same type of defensive style against this Miami offense, 458 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: which is we will let you dink and dunk all 459 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: the way downfield to it, but we're not letting you 460 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: get downfield waddle or tyre hill. So yeah, I love 461 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: this number for a bunch of different reasons, but the 462 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: biggest is we're just playing the market and we're buying 463 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: a team at their lowest point, an O and two 464 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: team that's oh and two against the spread playing against 465 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 3: the Miami team that's two and oh straight up in 466 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: two and oh against the spread and are just loved 467 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: by everyone. Like we already talked about it, and I 468 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 3: talked to a bookmaker yesterday. This is one of the 469 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: most money lined teased beat games of the week, this 470 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: Miami team. So always nice being a big need with 471 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: the books on this to every team. So I got 472 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 3: no issue making this one of our five if it's 473 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: still plus six and a half comes Sunday. 474 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: Cards plus twelve and a half from Evan Abrams. I 475 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: asked Evan this the other day, double digit underdogs the 476 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: past twenty years at home seventy two and fifty one 477 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: against the spread. But Evan tease me, and Evan's going 478 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: to come on later in the show. He also pointed 479 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: out Dak does very well against bad teams twenty six 480 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: twelve and two against the spread versus teams under or 481 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: five hundred. That's the second best mark in the past 482 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: twenty years, behind Tom Brady. He doesn't he's not one 483 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: of those guys who plays to the level of the competition. 484 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: No, that's what I've had a bunch of arguments about 485 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: this game this week. A lot of guys who've been 486 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: riding this Cardinals team are they're skipping this one, and 487 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: they just think that Dallas is a juggernaut right now, 488 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: and that's a few teams playing at a higher level. 489 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: And I always argue this is kind of the spots 490 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: they let down. But it was pointing out to me 491 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: it's not that's at home against double digit dogs usually 492 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 3: on the road like this, they crush these teams like 493 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 3: there's no distractions, none of that. Where you can attack 494 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: this Dallas team is if you get the running game going, 495 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: you can move the ball in them. Like they don't 496 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: have the greatest run stuffers, but the rest of the 497 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: team has no weakness, Like you look at their defense 498 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: and they're just there are no real holes. And it's 499 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: gonna be a while before we really learn what their 500 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: weaknesses are because they don't play I think the forty 501 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: nin ers they play week five or week six, that's 502 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: their true litmus test for this Cowboys team. So one 503 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: of the games I was high on, I wanted to 504 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: take the car Rdinals here, but just from the lack 505 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 3: of you know, value on the line because I have 506 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: this at thirteen, So technically I should be on this 507 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 3: Cowboys team. I just can't get there, Like I really 508 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 3: can't get there on this number with them. But if 509 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: anyone out there wants to tease them or do any 510 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: of that stuff, I agree with it, Like get it 511 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: under seven. This this feels like a good number. So yeah, 512 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 3: if we're going who I think is gonna be upset, 513 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 3: Like you could get upset this week. We already talked 514 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: about the Jaguars, I could see being upset. We'll talk 515 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 3: about that Raven. 516 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about another one. 517 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of these big dogs that I 518 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: just can't see pulling the upset. Like, there isn't a 519 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: scenario where I see the Cardinals doing it so just 520 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: because of the Dallas defense. Nothing because of the Dallas's offense, 521 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: but defensively, I just don't know if the Cardinals have 522 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: the weapons to really attack the weaknesses of this Dallas team. 523 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: You know what I love, Simon. I love when you 524 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: and I aren't a bit of a mind meld and 525 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: we haven't spoken about the games that we're going to 526 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: talk about, but we are finding consensus amongst. 527 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: The two of us, Like it's. 528 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: You know, boken force. I feel like we're in that 529 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of zone today. 530 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: If I see you five days a week. 531 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: That's true. 532 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: I also feel like we're in a zone when we 533 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: talk about the fastest growing ticketing app in the United States, 534 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: that's right, it's our sponsor, game Time. I love game 535 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Time for two reasons. One they sponsor the show. Two 536 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: I actually use game Time to buy tickets. They've got 537 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: amazing last minute deals on all sorts of tickets, including 538 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: pro and college games. 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Go sweat your bets live and in person, 548 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: and you can redeem code favorites for twenty dollars off 549 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: your first purchase. Terms and conditions apply again. Just download 550 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: the app and enter code favorites for twenty dollars off 551 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. Simon, I screwed up. 552 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: I screwed up big time. On Sunday Night. We were 553 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: talking about the games in our Sunday Night podcast, which 554 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: I love, and it's a hard podcast to do because 555 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: we are both exhausted and we've been through the ringer 556 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: at that point. But it's great to get our emotions 557 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: out and start thinking about the next games right. 558 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 4: We pinpointed a lot of games. 559 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: One of the games we pinpointed was the Raiders as 560 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: one and a half point dogs against the Steelers at home. 561 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: You're like, grab that right now? Of course, Like my 562 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: notes are freaking mess after that show, and so like 563 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: I go through and I grab some games and somehow 564 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: I missed this one and sort of forgot about it. 565 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: Woke up this morning, I'm like, shit, this game's at 566 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: two and a half. And then I panicked at it. 567 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want to get it before it 568 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: got to three, and it's going to get there. The 569 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: tickets are on the Steelers, the pros are on the Raiders. 570 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: How badly should I feel that I didn't get the 571 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: Raiders until two and a half. 572 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bad miss, but it happens all 573 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: the time. I'm exactly there with you where Sunday night. 574 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: You know your mind's a little loopy. I'm lucky where 575 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: I'm making these bets during the games before even hop on, 576 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: and then we do hop on, I'm texting guys are 577 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: going to make more bets for me. So yeah, I 578 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 3: love that we got the value on that number. But 579 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: you always cut yourselfs in certain spots where I can 580 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: come back on the other side, like that Tennessee, I 581 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 3: got the four and a half and then when it 582 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: moved to three against Cleveland, I grabbed the three. And 583 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: it's like I got an ugly middle, but I really 584 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: want to Cleveland to win and cover, like that's where 585 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: most of my money is, even though I did a 586 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 3: small bet on Tennessee. So yeah, I wish i'd tell 587 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 3: people don't get married too much to what we're saying 588 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: on Sunday, Like we're just taking an early action and 589 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: trying to get the best of the number on certain games. 590 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: And it's not always like this week where we got 591 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: the Rams, we beat the beat the number by three points, 592 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: and now this Raiders game, we're beating this by three points, 593 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: Like that's that's the dream scenario. So yeah, this Raiders game, 594 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: it's just all there for a Raiders bounce back spot. 595 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 3: You're playing against a team you already talked about in 596 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh that their offense is literally one of the most 597 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: efficient offenses in awful part. Now it's it's them in 598 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: the Jets. They're one and two, and with Pittsburgh you 599 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 3: can say, well, they've played really hard defenses. Right, that 600 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: could be your that could be your reasoning for Wow, 601 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: it's been They started the season with Cleveland, I mean 602 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, and they played Cleveland, and now 603 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 3: they're playing this Raiders team that you expect them to 604 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: have better, you know, better stats against. Right, they'll better 605 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: run the ball, make some good passes here with Kenny Pickett, 606 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: but when you look up front, you know Max Crosby. 607 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: These are kind of the dream scenarios like this is. 608 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: You know, if you if you want a great pass 609 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: rusher and you want them to go against Pittsburgh, this 610 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: is this is the dream scenario. So I hate that 611 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 3: it's getting to three for people. If you didn't get 612 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: to two and a half, I would grab it now 613 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: it's gone up so much. But I know people are 614 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: shock down with favorites We like this week, But that's 615 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: just how it is when're ryan the ups and downs 616 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: week the week. This is another home favorite I like 617 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: under a field goal. That's they are bad. They do 618 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: have some glaring weaknesses because they've had horrible drafts for 619 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: about six years on that Raiders team, but the superstars 620 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: they have, the studs they have, This is a great 621 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: matchup for them. I mean, Josh Jacobs, this just should 622 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: be one hundred and fifty yard rushing game for him. 623 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo horrible against that Bills team, just absolutely horrible. 624 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: It's because he had no run game, and like that's 625 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: what the Bill is new to take away. If you 626 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: take away the run game, Jimmy g all of it 627 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: on his shoulders. He struggles. Pittsburgh doesn't have anyone that 628 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: the Bills have to stop the run. So this one 629 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: chat is I'm actually honestly shocked to hear that Stucky 630 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: and Chris are on this one because they don't like 631 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: taking favorites either. But all the pros like this, like 632 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: this is just a pros versus Joe's game. We spot 633 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 3: it right away, but still take it at two and 634 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: a half. If it's three and a half comes Sunday 635 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: though for our contest, maybe we don't take this, but 636 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: at two and a half, I got to put it in. 637 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: The run defense is terrible. We saw it against the 638 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: Browns in that Monday night game. No, Cam Hayward I 639 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: think is impacting them huge, tremendously huge, huge, right because 640 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb obviously, like before the injury. Sixty four yards 641 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: on ten carries. He might have had one hundred yards 642 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: and a touchdown in the first half if not for 643 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: the injury. 644 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: But then his backup ended up. 645 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: While it wasn't like consistent yardage, he had a massive 646 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: play and he had over one hundred yards. And so 647 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: their run defense is truly, truly terrible. Here was a 648 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: stat I stole from Raybaun. One team in the NFL 649 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: this year has fewer red zone trips than the Chicago Bears, 650 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: who have three. It's Pittsburgh with two. 651 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're bad. Pathetic. 652 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: That is pathetic. 653 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has thirty four rush yards before contact on offense 654 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is from Evan It's the fewest 655 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 656 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and their first round running back looks like a 657 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: total bust now three years later. So just just not 658 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 3: I mean Canada, everyone's putting to blame on him in 659 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: that offense. He is a terrible OC but just all around, 660 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: it's just bad right now in Pittsburgh. 661 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they got bailed out by Deshaun Watson. 662 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: They really did last week. All right, last week we 663 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: talked about the Bucks plus five and a half. It 664 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: was your signon says it's down to four and a half. 665 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned it in sharp calls. Do you still like 666 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: it at four and a half? Is it a contest 667 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: play at four and a half? 668 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, still like it? Still like it a four and 669 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: a half. It's definitely, though, one of the games where 670 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: you know it could go wrong for us pretty quick, Chad. 671 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: If Baker turns back into a pumpkin, that's the fear 672 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: of taking this Bucks number here. But there's no reason 673 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: to believe he will. Like even when I go back 674 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: and watch the film, he's making the smart reads. He's 675 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: going through all the different reads and it's like, Okay, 676 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: Godwin's covered, let me take the next guy. Oh, Mike 677 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: Evans is covered. Let me let me look at my 678 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: check down like he's playing like the hope for the Browns. 679 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: Watson would play right. That's why they got rid of them. 680 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: They brought on Watson to have what Baker's doing now, 681 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 3: which is a guy who's making the easier reads, not 682 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: forcing it. And you know Eagles team, they're incredibly talented 683 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 3: all across the board, and they should be able to 684 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: beat this Bucks team. There's no doubt about it. But 685 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: I still have a lot of questions about the OC 686 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: and the defensive coordinator, like they're just there's just something 687 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: not right with his team, this Eagles team through two games, 688 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: and this would be one of the few times I 689 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: would say I could see them losing this game out right, 690 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: like if this was in a couple of weeks. So 691 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: there's no way I can see the Eagles losing this 692 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: game out right. There's just little things to believe that 693 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: something's missing right now with the Eagles team. And we 694 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: see all the time early in the season these teams 695 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: they just don't come out of the gate like they 696 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 3: were last year. And that's how it feels with the 697 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: Eagles team. So yeah, definitely definitely have the books around money, 698 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: lying around Robin and still like him at four and 699 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: a half. 700 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: Chud look, Simon, the super Bowl hangover is real, Like 701 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: it's not something that doesn't have any precedent, right, You 702 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: see it every year. We just saw the most recent 703 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: example was the Rams who completely fell off the ledge 704 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. 705 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: And they and by the way, when they went to 706 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. 707 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: With Jared Goff the next year, they weren't nearly as good. 708 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: It happens, and you can see it with Jalen Hurts. 709 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but there were things that 710 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was doing when he was running on Monday 711 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: night that looked similar to what Jalen Hurts had done 712 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: the week before or earlier in the week on Thursday, 713 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: where like he was getting around edge, he was hesitant, 714 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: he was easily tackled at the ankles, He wasn't making 715 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: accurate throws, he wasn't decisive when he dropped back. Like 716 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: to me, that is him not yet feeling comfortable with 717 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: the offensive play call and we're being in a groove 718 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: with the new offensive coordinator, so I get it. And look, 719 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: with the Bucks, we've talked about this, is Baker a 720 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: serviceable to good quarterback if he has Chris Cotwin and 721 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: Mike Evans Like, that's a big difference which he's never had. 722 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: He didn't have with the Rams, didn't have with the Panthers, 723 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: barely had it with the Browns. Like when he had 724 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: it with the Browns, he had Amari Cooper. 725 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 4: He was not bad. 726 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if a Mark Cooper was there yet. 727 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: I think he came in the year after. But right, 728 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 3: I do agree with your sentiment though that he's never 729 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: had these kind of weapons and I was on those people. 730 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 3: I buried Baker like I left him for dead. I 731 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: thought Trash was gonna win this position. But yeah, Baker 732 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: is a resilient dude, Like you can't deny that. So yeah, 733 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 3: I love this spot for this Bucks team. 734 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: All right, So two games that I want to talk 735 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: about before we get to the Titans and the Browns. 736 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts on Minnesota. I was a big 737 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota fan on Tuesday. It's still lingering around Minnesota. 738 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 4: As a very short favorite. 739 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 1: It's a little scary to me because it feels like 740 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: a trap, and maybe it is. But right now that 741 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: line hold on. I'm trying to see here. It's moved 742 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: up to one and a half. But it is a 743 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: pros Joe's game. Fifty six percent of the tickets on 744 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers, sixty three percent of the money on Minnesota. 745 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, I just don't know how anyone can model 746 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 3: this game, Like I just I don't know where you're 747 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: gonna find value in this game wherehereas the ball last 748 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: is probably gonna win, and no one knows what either 749 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: team is going to do in this game, Like it's 750 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: all the stats you see about Herbert he's been he's 751 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 3: doing things that have never happened before. He's been almost perfect, 752 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 3: and his team is zero and three in his last 753 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 3: three starts, Like the man can't play much better and 754 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: his team just can't win because they just their coach 755 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 3: is so bad. And it's the weirdest part is he's 756 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: a defensive mind, and when he first got there, their 757 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 3: defense was actually pretty good, and they just have gotten 758 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: worse every game he's coached them. Like, I don't know 759 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: what's happened, you know, with the Chargers defense, but it's 760 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: completely fallen off. So I just can't get there with 761 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: you on Minnesota Chat. It's just if I had to 762 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 3: see the future and say, what what team to be 763 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: zero and three is more likely it's Minnesota. They just 764 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: the Chargers have a better team all around compared to Minnesota. 765 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 3: They have guys on defense who can't get stops. On 766 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: the Chargers. I don't know anyone on the Vikings defense 767 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: I can make a stop or make a big play, 768 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: like I just I'm not seeing it with that Vikings defense. 769 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this is one of the highest 770 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 3: highest totals of the week. Fifty four. I threw a 771 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: lit on the over and that was really it for 772 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: me on this game chat. It's just I see there 773 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 3: have been a lot of points and I just have 774 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: no read on either of these teams and no faith 775 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 3: in either of these teams to win a game. It's 776 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: just both both of them have so much any question 777 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: marks for me right now. It's crazy to think though 778 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: one of these guys are going to be owing three. 779 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: So I totally get your coming from the Vikings. I 780 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,720 Speaker 3: just can't get. 781 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 4: There all right very quickly. 782 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: Falcons are three and a half at the Lions. I'm 783 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: kind of waiting at this point. Like we talked about 784 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: this on Sunday night, I love the Falcons at five 785 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: and a half, but you kind of talked me out 786 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: of it in that moment. We agreed on Tuesday that 787 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: we probably should have bet at five. 788 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 4: And a half. It's now at three and a half. 789 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm kind of just hoping it gets to three and 790 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna take the Lions. 791 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 3: Nothing on this game. Too many injuries for the Lions, 792 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: and I don't have any blind I don't have blind 793 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: faith taking rider on the road in this spot. 794 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 4: All right? 795 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: Can we talk about this Browns Titans game? It's everything 796 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: that we sort of believe in on both sides of it. 797 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: Brown's defense statistically is actually better than the Yeah, right now, 798 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: they are more aggressive, they are more dominant. This is 799 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: a terrible matchup for the Titans. No one has sniffed 800 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: the red zone against the Browns. In two games. Opponents 801 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: have not had a play inside the red zone. Credit 802 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: Anthony de Bundo Action Network. Like and this Titans online 803 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: I talked about at the top of the show, I'm 804 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: begging you people, go watch the Favorites film room with 805 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: me and Simon ten minutes YouTube only where we break 806 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: down different plays, and we broke down the Titans offensive 807 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: line doesn't communicate it's not very good. It's gonna be 808 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: hard to keep Brian Tannehill upright against the Browns. But like, 809 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: we had to bet the Titans at four and a 810 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: half and four, and now I'm kind of just thinking, 811 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: I gotta take I gotta basically balance it out and 812 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: bet the Browns because it's a pretty good spot for them. 813 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 3: And this is the big balls bet of the week. 814 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: No way, doesn't this take some balls here d taking 815 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 3: this Browns team. 816 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 1: It takes massive balls. I actually thought we were gonna 817 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: go with the Colts against the Ravens. 818 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: That's fair, but no, this, this one, this one takes 819 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 3: some balls. Like, of all the bets, all the pros, 820 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: everyone's saying to me, it's making me feel sick. Every 821 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: time I bet it. At three, I still felt sick. 822 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 3: Now it's minus three and a half and it's like, 823 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: I still gotta bet this. This is just a sick, 824 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: sick bet. Yeah, big, big balls. Better the Week's gotta 825 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 3: be the browns of all the ones, better the week. 826 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 3: This is definitely our toughest bet of the week. 827 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 4: I am sick to my stomach. 828 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have to talk with Watson. Don't be 829 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: a fucking idiot, and we be two and zero. No, 830 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: no more of trying to have Watson win us games 831 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: like that. That's got to be off the table at 832 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 3: this point. I'll sack up a lot of favorites this week. 833 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 3: A lot of favorites, a lot of favorites. Oh god, 834 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 3: this is a terrible week. 835 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: Quickly, quickly, quickly, Colts plus seven and a half against 836 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 1: the Ravens. That's the one i' this morning. And seven 837 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: and a half definitely missed the number. But I still 838 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: like the Cults more than a touchdown. 839 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 3: Well the pass I'm on the Ravens. These are the 840 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 3: kind of teams that Lamar beats the shit out of. 841 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: Saints plus two against Green Bay we touched on it 842 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: a little bit, you mentioned it in sharp calls. Has 843 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: it changed your mind now? 844 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: If we get there, I would love to take the Saints. 845 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: I know a bunch of pros that are on both 846 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 3: sides though, so it's definitely one of the more split 847 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 3: games of the week. Like you know, if it's two 848 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: and a half comes Sunday, I just have a hard time. 849 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 3: Let's not get it in there. This is by far 850 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 3: the best defense that Jordan Love is ever going to 851 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 3: play this season. And the fear with us taking Derek 852 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 3: Carr in this spot is, you know, he just if 853 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: he gets any type of pressure and throws him off. 854 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 3: But what I've seen from Green Bay is their defense 855 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: is underperforming through two games. Like even that Bears game, 856 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 3: the Bears had tons of opportunities to beat them. It 857 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 3: was just kind of just that feels not taking that. 858 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 3: I think Derek Carr will like, they got three really 859 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 3: good receivers and alive still hasn't had that one hundred 860 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: and fifty two hundred yard receiving game that he could 861 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 3: break out with. So if Kamara, Alvin Kamara was playing 862 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: this game, I'd be all over the Saints team. This 863 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 3: is the last game he's out for. He'll be back 864 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: next week. So that's why I'm not going crazy on 865 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: the Saints one. But I do love the spot here, 866 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 3: especially if against the two and a half. 867 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: All right, I like it too if it gets to 868 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,479 Speaker 1: two and a half. I've listed it on our list, 869 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: which like is causing this confusion when we talk on 870 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: Sunday because we're going too fast. So I want to 871 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: confirm this with you, but I also want us to 872 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: be thoughtful and not worry about that we're talking with 873 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: only fifteen minutes to make the picks, because we'll look 874 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: at the whole board on Sunday. Let's commit that to 875 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: each other. Please, Like Sunday, we'll both have. 876 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 4: Up the lines. We'll go through every game. 877 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: We'll make sure that as the lines have moved, we're 878 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: not going to be so committed just to the ones 879 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: I have in my notes. 880 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 4: Please, I'll try my best, Okay. 881 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: Right now, we've talked about the Texans plus nine and 882 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: a half, the Pats minus two and a half. We've 883 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: talked about Denver plus six and a half, Las Vegas 884 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: minus two and a half, Bucks plus four and a half, 885 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: and then on the outside looking in, we're talking about 886 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: the Browns if they're still a three, the Saints that 887 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: they can get to two and. 888 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 4: A half, and we'll see. 889 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 890 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: Before we get to our money line Underdog round Robin parlay, 891 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: reminder that the Week three contest tiebreaker is longest Bengals 892 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: touchdown against the Rams. Our predictive analyst Billy Ward wrote 893 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: another tiebreaker strategy article. Will include the link in this 894 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: episode's description. 895 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 2: Mot Dog blocks Your dogs, Your dog blocks. 896 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 4: Mot Dog Simon. 897 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: Let's get to our money line, round Robin Underdog Parlay. 898 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: We know we're gonna put the Bucks in there. Should 899 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: we put the Saints in there? 900 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 3: They are? The Saints in there, Houston Texans in there. 901 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 3: Get a big one in there. 902 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. 903 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 3: Let's get a little crazy here the Broncos. 904 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're on the same page again. We're back, We're 905 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 4: find nothing. It's all happening again. 906 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 3: And this last one, I know it pains you, but 907 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: you know again, we don't want to be two attached 908 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: to our Sunday bets. Let's go Commanders. Let's take a 909 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 3: little on the comedies starting three and oh that ugly 910 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 3: random team. There's always one that wins a couple of 911 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 3: games I shouldn't win. And we saw it. How was 912 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 3: making those big time fuck it throws? And like, I 913 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 3: love seeing that last week out of them and the 914 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 3: Bills coming off such a huge win. This would be 915 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 3: a nice little letdown spot for them. And this defensive line. 916 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 3: There's few teams that give Josh Allen big trouble and 917 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 3: it's really talented, incredibly gifted athletes that play defensive line, 918 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: and that's exactly what Washington has. Washington's front four is mean, 919 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 3: and they're fast, and they're angry, and you know, I 920 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: look at this matchup, I'm just like these guys all 921 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 3: I've been talking about Josh Allen and what they need 922 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 3: to get done here. So yeah, we might not get 923 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 3: them in our contest, even though I do love it. 924 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 3: We gotta get in the money line around Robin Kid 925 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 3: Washington in there. 926 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 4: We still got a lot to do. 927 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: Make Little Caesars, the official pizza sponsor of the NFL. 928 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: Part of your Game Day, Simon is Pizza, The Ultimate 929 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 1: game day food it is, Chad, I love it. 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Simon, 940 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: we gotta give people a survivor. Pick who's it going 941 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: to be? 942 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 4: I get? Is it the Ravens? Like you like the 943 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 4: Ravens so much? 944 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 3: This week was tough though, because we're trying to do 945 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 3: Game three and like, there's certain teams you want to 946 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 3: play to say it for later and yeah, that's always 947 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 3: the toughest thing about doing these different games. And there's 948 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 3: so many big double digit favorites this week. 949 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 4: You know, Patriots, that's a little risky, that is major risky, but. 950 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: That would that would be smart because we'll never, We'll never. 951 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 3: We're never going to use them anyway. 952 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 4: I mean, we're never going to use them again. 953 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 3: Oh man. Like part of me wanted to use the 954 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: Jaguars because when else whatever, we use it again. But 955 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 3: they just this feels the game they could lose. Damn it. 956 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 3: Chat are we are? We are do? We just got 957 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 3: to dive in and just take the Chiefs Like that's 958 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 3: just as safe as it gets. The Chiefs go Chicago 959 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 3: and then they go at the Jets, So we either 960 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 3: could do them this week or take them at the 961 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 3: Jets next week. 962 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: Well, I would take them at home before I would 963 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: take them on the road against that defense. 964 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 3: Then this is it. We could take them all the 965 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 3: way Monday, December twenty fifth at home against Vegas, but 966 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 3: that's so far away to plan on taking the Chiefs. 967 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 3: I'd rather use them now. 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We love all of his research and 986 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: all the data and all the notes that he gives us. 987 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: The last word with Evan Abrams, Evan, welcome, my friend. 988 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 3: What's going on? 989 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 2: Guys? 990 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 5: One thing I do have to say, so I'll be 991 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 5: a tony reality here, a little stat guy. 992 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: So i'mon't said something Trevor Lawrence related. 993 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 5: He's never finished as high as a favorite zero to 994 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 5: five against the spread. I believe it is as a 995 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 5: home favorite, so never covered in this spot, so a 996 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 5: little correction there, but bad spot for Jacksonville. 997 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 2: Honestly, want to talk about the Cardinals. 998 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 5: I'm actually obsessed with Arizona this year just because no 999 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 5: one wants to bet on them. So just a few 1000 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 5: stats that I think are really fun. So in the 1001 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 5: Wildcard Era since nineteen ninety, no two to zero against 1002 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 5: the spread team has ever been a double digit home dog, 1003 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 5: so Arizona would be the first in this scenario, and 1004 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,040 Speaker 5: they'd be just. 1005 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 2: The fourth double digit double digit dog in general. 1006 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 5: The other three oh and three straight up owing three 1007 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 5: against the spread failed to cover by twenty five points 1008 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 5: in total, so not great. 1009 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 3: Thank you for that though, Like that just saved me 1010 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 3: a lot of money. 1011 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here, here's just like, honestly the fun part 1012 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 2: about this. 1013 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 5: Right now, Arizona has just eleven percent of tickets against Dallas. 1014 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 5: No team has closed with eleven percent or lessons two 1015 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 5: thousand and eight, even at twelve twelve and a half 1016 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 5: points at home. They can't get a single dollar on 1017 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 5: Arizona after going to and against the spread. 1018 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: So and that, by the way, is also when you 1019 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,720 Speaker 1: want to bet the underdog at home as a double 1020 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: digit underdog, like of course you want to back the Cardinals. 1021 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: And yet I'm with Simon, I don't know if I can. 1022 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can hold my nose and 1023 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: do that. All right, tell me a scenario with the 1024 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 1: Jets in New England. You say there's something similar. 1025 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: Just something fun. This is just a great nugget. 1026 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 5: So the Patriots are field goal favorites now about two 1027 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 5: and a half over the Jets. That means over the 1028 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 5: last twenty years, the Jets have been favorite versus the 1029 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 5: Patriots just once in the last forty four meetings. So 1030 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 5: one time forty four meetings the Jets have been favorite 1031 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 5: over the Patriots. Good trivia question. So it happened in 1032 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 5: twenty eleven. Mark Sanchez did it, so that was the 1033 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 5: last Jets quarterback to do that. But the stat Patriots 1034 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 5: have defeated the Jets fourteen straight times. That is the 1035 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 5: second longest active streak Chiefs over Broncos fifteen straight. So 1036 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 5: we get the bet those in the next few weeks 1037 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 5: as well. 1038 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: Well, Simon, we're automatically screwed on the Pats now, so 1039 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: we made the wrong decision on the Cardinals. We're screwed 1040 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: in the Pats. Evan can you go three and zero 1041 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 1: in making Simon and I feel it like shit, we're. 1042 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 5: About to turn the tables a little bit. This is 1043 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 5: a Chad special. So we always talk about, and he's 1044 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 5: always talked about for years betting bad teams. It's what 1045 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 5: we always love doing. So this is a bet the 1046 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 5: bad team system. These are the teams you don't want 1047 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 5: to bet. So off a double digit loss early in 1048 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 5: the year and on the road fift thirty and one 1049 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 5: against the Spreadsons twenty seventeen, so early success. More recently 1050 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 5: and then over the last twenty years it's fifty nine 1051 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 5: to sixty percent. 1052 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: That would be the Bears that would give the Texans. 1053 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 5: So the two teams that look the worst that no 1054 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 5: one wants tend to cover. 1055 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: Evan Abrams, thank you for coming on the show. I'm 1056 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 1: looking forward to this segment every week. 1057 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: One thing to keep in mind this weekend, people, we 1058 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 3: have major storms coming up the East Coast, like they're 1059 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 3: talking about like semi tropical storms. So if you're thinking 1060 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 3: yourself what games might be affected by this right now, 1061 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 3: they're saying New England, the Jets game, Washington, Buffalo, Indianapolis, 1062 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 3: and Baltimore. So just before you start going crazy betting overs. 1063 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 3: Those are the games you want to pause on before 1064 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 3: you put any money on it, and know what the 1065 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 3: weather's going to be like. Don't try to overthinking like well, 1066 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 3: it's gonna be wet and slipper out there, like take 1067 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 3: the over. We just take the unders. Like if it's 1068 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 3: raining really hard and really windy. Always go back to 1069 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 3: that Buffalo forty nine Ers game from last year. It's 1070 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 3: a total shit show when you afthrow the ball downfield 1071 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 3: and you can't get any traction on the ground. So 1072 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 3: definitely something to keep your eye on this weekend. People, 1073 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 3: a big weather from coming East coast. 1074 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: You know what I thought of when you said that, 1075 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about betting ankles. I was thinking we 1076 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: had hurricane tsunami in Connecticut last weekend, and I forgot 1077 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: to put the covers on our brand new outdoor patio furniture. 1078 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: So I am going to race home from the city 1079 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: tonight and I'm going to make sure tomorrow I put 1080 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: the covers on the furniture because I don't want to 1081 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: get that stuff wet. It's a whole new ball game. 1082 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm not ruining another set of patio furniture. Let's recap 1083 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: our foxhol New England Patriots minus two and a half, 1084 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: our Big. 1085 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 4: Balls bet of the week. 1086 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns minus three and a half. Right now, I 1087 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 1: prefer to wait until it gets to three, but I 1088 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: guess we're going with it. The exact decision was Denver 1089 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,240 Speaker 1: plus seven. Also like it at six and a half, 1090 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: Simon says was Tampa Bay plus five and a half. 1091 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 4: It's down to four and a half. 1092 00:51:54,160 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: Our money line round Robin Parlay, Bucks, Saints, Texans, Broncos, 1093 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. Before we sign off, Simon and I will 1094 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: be back with our week three recap episode live on 1095 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: AMP and on the Action Network YouTube page this Sunday 1096 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: and every Sunday, seven thirty pm. Also a reminder, tiebreakers 1097 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: absolutely crucial in our contest if you want to cash. 1098 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: Last week we had a ten way tie because folks 1099 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: nailed the tiebreaker. Billy Ward, as we said, is writing 1100 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: an article to the tiebreaker topic every week. This week 1101 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: it is longest Cincinnati touchdown. Make sure you pay attention 1102 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: to that. For Simon Hunter, I am Chad Millman. 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