1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks Podcast, 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Monday, May eighteenth, twenty twenty six. 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm j Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: me as always Task. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Mellis podcast listeners, this is for you. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot, hot boy, Trey Kirby, 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Helao and over Yonder filling in for JD today. Oh look, 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: who's back. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: It's Esta Kid. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: I all do it? 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: What's up Fish? Great to see him, man, it's good 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: to see you, guys. That's been a minute. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: JD and the family celebrating Jackson graduating today. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 4: Wow. 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: So congrats to good kid graduating. 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Jack Yeah, Jackson. 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 5: Now you're surprised the new Star Wars movie coming to 18 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 5: the theaters. 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: We can't keep Eschwa out of here. 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. 21 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 4: Unbelieved? 22 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: Are you excited for the Little grogu? Esh excited? 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: Not particularly happy? 24 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: And New Star Wars is coming? 25 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 6: Sure, but this one right here could have just been 26 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 6: on Disney Plus. 27 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Oh damn. 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. 29 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Everybody joining us here Monday on YouTube. If you're joining 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: us live, hit the like buttons, subscribe, share the show 31 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews. On today's show, 32 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: we're going to preview and predict the Western Conference Finals 33 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: between the Thunder and Spurs that tips tonight and Oh Canada, 34 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Sga is once again the NBA's Most Valuable Player. But first, 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: the Cavaliers finally got over the hump. We got to 36 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: talk Game seven. After losing in back to back seasons 37 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: in this round in the semifinals, the core of Donovan Mitchell, 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Evan Mobley, and Jared Allen have finally advanced to the 39 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals in their fourth season together. All it 40 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: took was adding James Harden at the trade deadline and 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: some hot shooting from Sam Merrill in Game seven. So 42 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: the Knicks will host the Cavs in Game one of 43 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: the Conference finals Tuesday night at Madison Square Garden on ESPN. 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: We'll preview and predict that series on tomorrow Carless Pod, 45 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: But we're talking Game seven and task. Unfortunately, this was 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: another blowout. I said unfortunately because we had three pretty 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: crappy games this weekend when you go back to the 48 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: two game sixes and then Game seven in terms of 49 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: just blowouts here. 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was this for Detroit that it doesn't get 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: any worse than that. At home game seven to lose 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: like that, I wish the PA announcer would have came 53 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: on with the Detroit basketball is not available tonight. I mean, 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: that did not look like Detroit basketball at all. I 55 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: know everyone on the broadcast was crediting Donovan Mitchell for 56 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: his assists to start the game, but a lot of 57 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: it was just bad point of attack defense or just 58 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: rotating and collapsing, and so the past was there for 59 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell. I know Donna Mitchell was feeling it, hitting 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: his first three from twenty seven feet and it felt 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: so good. I'll take one from thirty seven feet and 62 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: hit that one. He was on point. But you mentioned 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: James Harden being acquired this game because it was so bad. 64 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: You don't really look at James Harden's numbers because he 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: has had a classic bad game seven nine points over 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: six from three uh classic games seven stuff. But more 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: field goals than assists actually didn't matter. Turnovers, it didn't 68 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: matter two field goals won turnover. Harden didn't play bad, 69 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: he didn't play good. I'm not pointing this matter. An 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: absolute smoke show. And the Cavs they were aggressive from 71 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: the tip too. They were They're good. Yeah, and in 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: you arena game seven, you want your audience or your 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: crowd to get into it, and they weren't there. They 74 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: couldn't be there, and you saw shots at the crowd, 75 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: just empty seats really early. Unfortunately in this game, they 76 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: were not ready. It was just surprising, surprising to see that, 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: surprising to see Kid's season, which was amazing, and like that. 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: You can look and point fingers at Jab bicker Step. 79 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: Maybe should have gone to Ron Holland or Javonte Green, 80 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: guys who have the add energy defensively, but it didn't matter. 81 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: It really didn't matter. Nobody name one Piston that had 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: a good game. I don't think you can Duncan Robinson. 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: He was literally their best player off the bench, I guess, so, yeah, yeah, totally. 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 4: I mean that's the problem. 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, Tobias Harris, Jalen Duran, Asar Thompson seventeen points total. 86 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: It ain't gonna work, especially when Kaid is having an 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: off game. I thought Kid let the game come to 88 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: him too much. He was super passive. I thought in 89 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: this one, the cast to me played great, and I 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: think that's a huge part of it as well. The 91 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: Pistons just could not keep up scoring wise. I thought 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: they played hard enough in the first half, just not 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 5: playing very well. And then in the second half, as 94 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 5: the Cavs continued rolling, Detroit really let go of the 95 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: rope and it just turned into a dunk fest for 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 5: Jared Allen, the nerdy shack out there dunking everything and 97 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 5: then breaking away at the free throw line. I'm ready 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 5: to retire the lights are too bright meme for this guy. 99 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 5: He showed up in two game sevens, undefeated in game 100 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 5: sevens in his career. 101 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: I do like that he's now taking on the Knicks though, 102 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: where it all started, totally totally. 103 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: So we'll see if MSG is maybe too breat. 104 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought he was great. 105 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: I thought Mobley was awesome, and Donovan Mitchell was just 106 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 5: incomplete control the entire game. Clearly saw something in their 107 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 5: scout where he knows the big is going to come 108 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 5: to him. So we saw when he had his thirty 109 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 5: nine point half, he shot a ton of floaters over 110 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 5: the bigs, and this one was when the big comes over, 111 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 5: just drop it off to Moblei or to Alan sam 112 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: Merrill checks in starts hitting the whole bunch of threes, 113 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 5: and yeah, the Harden thing is pretty funny because what 114 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 5: an ultimate legacy series for this guy. If you think 115 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 5: James Harden sucks, you say, look at games one, two, 116 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 5: and six when he was sloppy, Jim more turnovers than 117 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: shots made. 118 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: He sucks. 119 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 5: If you think he's good, he carried him in games 120 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: thirty four and five, got them back in the series. 121 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: Then he finally wins a game seven. He's now over 122 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 5: five hundred and game sevens in his career, all because 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: of the teammates. Yeah, so whatever you thought of James Harden, 124 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 5: it's still true after this series, which I really like 125 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 5: that's true. 126 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. The Cavs were just like 127 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: cash and threes in early in this game, built the 128 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: lead six to thirteen. I think in the first twelve 129 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: minutes of the game. That's tough to overcome for Detroit 130 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: because you had Wad hitting one, you had Sam Merril 131 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: hitting one, you had Mobilely hitting like an end of 132 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: shit o'clock grenade that he banged home. And then you 133 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: had a couple there from Mitchell as well. I mean, 134 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: great shooting from the Cavs on the road in the 135 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: other barn, and they just started there. 136 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: Hot Shoe said. 137 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: It was only the second time in their last nine 138 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: games Cleveland had won the first quarter. This wasn't something 139 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: they'd been doing, whether and wins or losses all postseason long. 140 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: So to get the lead and then to build on it. 141 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: And a big part was. 142 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Like how many possessions were there where they had like 143 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: two or three chances on said possession because they were 144 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: attacking the glass, long rebounds. It sort of looked like 145 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Game six to me, just the opposite of the teams. 146 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Like we were talking about great rebounding from the jump 147 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: from Detroit and Game six on Friday night, it was 148 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland in Game seven doing that again, long rebounds and 149 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: just getting all these other chances. 150 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was odd just to see that Pistons fight 151 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: level not be there for the defensive rebounding and then 152 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: because they're collapsing was really late and the rotations were 153 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: really late, they weren't there. That being said, you got 154 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: to give Sam merrill I thought a lot of credit. 155 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: His threes just weren't open because of the collapsing. He 156 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: did have to put it on the floor and then 157 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 2: hit shots. He was really really good. I keep thinking 158 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: about that question Trey asked earlier in the season, would 159 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: you rather have Aj Green in the Milwaukee Bucks or 160 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: Sam Merrill? And that was the big, the big question, 161 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: and I thought, I'm buying AJ Green's muscles, his rotation 162 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: or his his shot rota release, I should say, was 163 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: way above his head. So I'm taking Aj Green. But 164 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: after this series, and after Sam Merrill taking a freaking 165 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: truck of Asar Thompson, I mean, that guy many times. 166 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Sam Maurel stepped up and was able to be physical 167 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: in this series. Even missed Game two, and that was 168 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: the game that they obviously missed him. But he came 169 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: back and was really, really, really good in this. 170 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: And you've seen the stats, I mean, all postseason long. 171 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Sam Merril is like the Bell Weather for this Cavaliers team. 172 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: The record is pretty dominant when he's been healthy and 173 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: when he plays, and it's been more of like an 174 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: average team when he has been out there. 175 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: But he was huge. 176 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I definitely had in my notes at 177 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: one point like, wow, this is the Sam Merril game here. 178 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Game seven on the road. Now, a lot of other 179 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: guys contributed, and yeah, back to Donovan Mitchell. The four assists, 180 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: zero journovers, in the first you know, thirteen fourteen minutes 181 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: a game that was something because we again to go 182 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: back to Friday night's game game six, we were like, 183 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: is Donovan Mitchell ever gonna get an assist again? Like, 184 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Like he's not setting guys up. 185 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: It's either you know, it's feast or famine with the scoring. 186 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: He was bad on Friday. He was awesome in this one. 187 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: And then when Detroit tried to make the run in 188 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter, wasn't much of a run, but you know, 189 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: got it to within fifteen seventeen. I thought Mitchell buried 190 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: any comeback hope. I thought he was great in the 191 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: third quarter, obviously looked to score a little bit more, 192 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: got to the line, had fifteen of his twenty six 193 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: in the quarter, and just completely ended the game and 194 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: got us into early garbage time. Yeah, yeah, what else 195 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: from this one before we start, you know, talking about 196 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: what the Pistons are going to do in the off season. 197 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: This is a good series to look back on when 198 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 5: you're trying to remember. Why do we always say Game 199 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 5: five is pivotal because this series could have been tipping 200 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 5: the other way. Ye with the Pistons up by nine 201 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 5: with three minutes left at home, and they blew it. 202 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 5: Didn't score for the last three minutes of the game, 203 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: missed their last five shots, had a turnover due to 204 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 5: a shot clock violation. Calves come back to win in overtime, 205 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 5: gives them two chances to win one of these last 206 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 5: two games, and that's exactly what they needed because they 207 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 5: turtled it in Game six. But he came back for 208 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 5: Game seven and one. So you know, we say it 209 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: literally every time there's a Game five, this is a 210 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: pivotal Game five. 211 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 4: And that was a pivotal three minutes in this series. 212 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: Totally true. Like you alluded to earlier, skeets a very 213 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: different team from Game six to Game seven for the 214 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons. It's just hard to replicate that over, you know, 215 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: two games, and Donovan Mitchell definitely showed up and was 216 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: the best place. 217 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 5: It was probably the five best players on the Yeah, 218 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 5: yesterday the biggest game of. 219 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: Don Mitchell's career. 220 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he'd never gotten too a Game seven in 221 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: the second round. I don't think the best win that 222 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 5: the Caves have had since he's been there. 223 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Lebron, He's coming off back to back stinkers to like 224 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: get us here to Game seven. He was not good 225 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: in games five or six, and for him to obviously 226 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: come through here and deliver with the twenty six, eight 227 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: and seven to finally advance past the second round, get 228 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: that monkey off his back. I mean, this guy has 229 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: been in every postseason, right, every year he's played, He's 230 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: there a lot of times in the second round. Now 231 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: he gets to go to the Conference finals finally, and 232 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: he got some help because Mobley was great. Jared Allen 233 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: Game seven, Jared Allen, we got game six, Clay, and 234 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: now we got Game seven Ja and then all these 235 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: other guys contributing max s, true energy, sam Merril threes. 236 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you that five or six of the best 237 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: players last night were Cavaliers in Game seven. 238 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And obviously James Harden was not good in 239 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Game seven, but as trade brought up, James Harden helped 240 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: get them here, no doubt, he was a huge part 241 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: of it. So the trade worked out they got to 242 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: the Conference finals. 243 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: Well, I think that even though he didn't play well offensively, 244 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: he just had a bad scoring night, if we're being honest, 245 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 5: but he was what he ended up two for nine 246 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: or two for two, for ten, I guess, but he 247 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: was deferring to Mitchell. I thought was kind of big. 248 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: They were letting Evan Mobley bring the ball up as well. 249 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 5: Harden was like decent defensively. He's got way more sized 250 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 5: than Darius Garland did, and that's a. 251 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: Thing you can exploit. 252 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 5: Especially a huge Pistons team could not exploit Harden. He 253 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 5: was hustling, he was getting offensive rebounds, He's out running guys. 254 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: You know, only one turnover is huge. He set up 255 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 5: Jared Allen for a lot of his dunks as well. 256 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 5: So even though Harden was like taking a back seat, 257 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 5: he was not bad in any way, shape or for him. 258 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: He knew he didn't have his scoring going, so he 259 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 5: wasn't forcing it at all. And I don't think he 260 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 5: could say the same about other players on the Pistons. 261 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 5: Like even though Harden didn't play great, he still played 262 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 5: Tobias Harris. 263 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Tobias Harris. Did he hit a shot? 264 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: No since like the second half of or from since 265 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: the first half of Game five. I think he maybe 266 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: hit one or two last three this last little part 267 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: he came up short. Obviously, Kate got bottled up. I 268 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: did think the Calves were just a great job like 269 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: of yeah, really just like stymying the Pistons action. 270 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: Early. 271 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: They were like stonewalling any sort of drive where they 272 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: would try and get into the pain. They were on 273 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: a string there, they were locked in, and that's like, 274 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: this is sort of the Cavaliers team. I think we 275 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: thought coming into this season, like we anticipated to be 276 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: one of the better teams in the league again and 277 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference, and it just you didn't see 278 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: it for a long time the regular season. Then they 279 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: were like, let's make a drastic move and obviously flip 280 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: Garland for Harden, and even then there were stretches where 281 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: it didn't look all that promising. So for them here 282 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: and I don't know what game. 283 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: Is this for them? 284 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Ninety six Jesus, Yeah, Like that was some of the 285 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: best Calves basketball we've seen them look this season. 286 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: And then on the other side, the Pistons literally couldn't 287 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: score on fast breaks, wide open fast breaks, just couldn't 288 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: pass the ball. It was eight seven midway through this 289 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: first quarter, and that's when the Caps took off because 290 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 2: you know, the Pistons didn't do much to get their 291 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: crowd into it. It couldn't score, it couldn't pass real 292 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: funk and you know Caide's long season here, whatever game 293 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: it is for them, considering the his lung, I mean, 294 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: maybe not all caught up, but either way, he was 295 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: not himself and the whole team just crumbled. 296 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: It did feel like you could tell Caid wasn't himself 297 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 5: the first two times he touched the ball. He threw 298 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 5: that outlet pass like ten feet too long. I think 299 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 5: it was Harris was a streaking He threw the oop 300 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 5: to Asar Thompson could have finished. It would have been 301 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: a tough finish for Thompson. I thought it was a 302 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: bad pass from kid as well. And then like he 303 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 5: was just content to get into jumpers and it's like, 304 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 5: this guy's supposed to be playing downhill. And I think 305 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 5: part of it is the Cavs were and which in things, 306 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 5: and you heard stan Band talking about it. He's like, 307 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 5: they just want every kid bucket to be one on five. Yeah, 308 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 5: and that's what they made it. They made it tough 309 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: on him, But there were I just thought there were 310 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 5: times when he was a little passive in this game 311 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: and kind of just content to stay on the perimeter 312 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 5: when he's got to be drawing free throws and getting 313 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: some buckets inside. 314 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: Just wasn't there though. 315 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I saw Kelly Dwyer write about it 316 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: here this morning, JB. Bickerstaff's sort of line up sort 317 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: decisions here in game seven, you alluded to a test 318 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: like Davonte Green did play in all eighty two games 319 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: this season, and he was it's pretty solid. Now, his 320 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: minutes dwindled in the postseason, but you know, you didn't 321 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: see him much. Ron Holland that's a guy that played 322 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: like seventy eight games in the regular season. But the 323 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: problem was, it's like those guys maybe will give you 324 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: more of a defensive edge, but you're going to be 325 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: a little limited offensively with them. But then the counter is, well, 326 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: these other guys that are supposed to be the offensive guys, 327 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: they're not actually scoring here, right, And I like, so, 328 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: I get it, he's in a tough spot. But maybe 329 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: I guess Kelly is thinking, is like, you're a defensive 330 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: team first, like lean into that, maybe make this the 331 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: ugly low scoring game. 332 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, in a game session where we do see 333 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: ugly low scoring games. That being said, you know, you 334 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: see what JB. Bicker Staff in game six and pointed 335 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: to Sasser and more Paul Reid and kri Slvert and 336 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: it worked. So it's a tough one. But when they're 337 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: you don't have the effort. I get it, I get it. 338 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just more. 339 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: It was shocking to see the one of the best 340 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: defenses in the league season long. 341 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, get. 342 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: Sort of embarrassed here. 343 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: They got it up for sure. 344 00:14:59,720 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 345 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 5: If you're a Pistons fan waking up today, are you 346 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,479 Speaker 5: a sad boy or happy boy? 347 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: I think overall, like, look, you're sad because no one 348 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: likes Yeah at home get smashed like that. 349 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: It was all Cleveland fans in that arena. You gotta 350 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: be sad. 351 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: How many buses were there? I saw twenty and then 352 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I saw twenty five. They were saying, what was it? 353 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: I got twenty five? Okay, I'm going with twenty five. 354 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: But zoom out, zoom out. 355 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 356 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a great season. You're the number 357 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: one seed. You did level up a little obviously one 358 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: a postseason matchup to go to the next round. 359 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: We we said it the deadline. That's all they're doing. 360 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: That's it. 361 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin Herder really, Okay, they've decided to slow play. 362 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: This sort of do what we seen I guess, uh 363 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Presty and the thunder do before, Like when we were 364 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: saying you need rebounding, you need size, and they took 365 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: that one. You're like, let's see what we are first, 366 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: and then they went and got Caruso and Hartenstein and 367 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: turned into a champion team. That's sort of what you'd 368 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: hope the Pistons will do here. They need to make moves, 369 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: they need more shooting. Yeah, I mean they have to 370 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: change this a little bit, but overall, come on, you 371 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: gotta be happy with you. 372 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: You're happy, but it is a missed opportunity because I 373 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 5: agree with you. It is similar to OKC in twenty 374 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 5: twenty four. Kevin Herder is Gordon Hayward. I mean, like 375 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: pretty close to a t you know, red hair versus 376 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: brown hair, but very similar out there. The difference, of course, 377 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: is that first and foremost Kate is not shay No. 378 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: And then also there's not a Jaln Williams on the roster. Also, 379 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 5: you don't have a million picks that you can go 380 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 5: out and get who you need. Fair Also, I mean, 381 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 5: Josh Giddy at least had some believers in the Chicago 382 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: Bulls that allowed them to get up Alex Caruso. Is 383 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 5: there a guy like that to trade away if you're 384 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: the Pistons, somebody like who is interesting to other teams? 385 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: Sar Thompson would be the guy you would have to 386 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 5: look at. But he seems pretty locked in there. He's 387 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 5: he was very up and down. I thought in this series. 388 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: His defense is awesome, his mental game isn't always there 389 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: and his offensive game is rarely there. So I think 390 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: that's a question mark to answer as well, not to 391 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: mention teams will get better in the Eastern Conference. I 392 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: think this was a year that the Pistons really really 393 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 5: should have gone for. 394 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: I think, and two huge question marks with the Pistons 395 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: the safseason are Jillen Duran how much money did this 396 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: guy potentially lose or what deal do they agree on here? 397 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: And then unrestricted free agency for Tobias Harris as well, 398 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: who was was good at times in this postseason but 399 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: then disappearing. 400 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 3: Act out on the stretch. 401 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: And they got a ton of capron to spend, So 402 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: if there's a free agent to come along, I mean, 403 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: they basically have nobody beyond kid that's making a lot 404 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: of money under contract next year. Other than the Durham 405 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: contract that will happen, Duncan will under contract right now, 406 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: is their second highest paid player at fifteen mil. 407 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: So. 408 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: This season definitely a little bit of a disappointment, not 409 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: getting to the conference finals. I'm sure esh, when they 410 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: got Kevin Herder, you're thinking, WHOA, this team could be 411 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: a conference finalist, just like the Atlanta Hawks and Kevin 412 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: Herders starting those games right out dusted off seven Kevin Well, 413 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: listen if he was, he wasn't healthy these last two months. 414 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: He wasn't playing it. He wasn't part of the rotation 415 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: a lot of it, And so there was that part. 416 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't look like Kevin Heurder from five 417 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 2: years ago, that's for sure. He didn't look like anything 418 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: like he should have been. But they have lots of 419 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: cap room Trajan Lang and be making some moves. 420 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 4: But I get what do they do with Tobias? 421 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: It is a big, big question. 422 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: What do you think, Ash, Was this a like disappointing 423 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: now season for the Pistons or come on, this was overall? 424 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: This was great and it's a stepping stone. 425 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a good season for 426 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 6: the Pistons, Like, why would it be a disappointment? I think, 427 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 6: you know, I'll just I just I forgot how bad 428 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 6: they were just a few seasons ago. So to be here, 429 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 6: like they had the worst record ever for the Pistons, 430 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 6: Just what two seasons ago and here they are the 431 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 6: number one seed and then with a chance to go 432 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 6: to the conference finals and maybe a shot to go 433 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 6: to the finals, Like this is a this is a. 434 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: Success for them for sure. 435 00:18:50,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into some other random notes from this 436 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: game seven blowout. Random The first one was the yeah 437 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: the buses, Dan Gilbert, hell of an owner moved there 438 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: sending I guess twenty five full buses of Cavaliers fans Detroit, and. 439 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: You could hear them. 440 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 4: They were loud. 441 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: They were quite loud. 442 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they were helped out by the 443 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: fact that their team was rolling and the Pistons crowd 444 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: was crickets. 445 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, and they got uniform T shirts. 446 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, speaky Troit. 447 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the dark red, the burgundy. So yeah, they were 448 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: It felt like a Cleveland game at times, obviously because 449 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: Detroit stunk. Now, how far that's a lot of buses. 450 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: How far is the drive from Cleveland to New York. 451 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Is this happening there? No way, right, that's too far. 452 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's too far to send twenty five buses. 453 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: I feel like it's drivable. I don't know. I have 454 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: literally no idea, but tell me eight and a half hours. 455 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem is it's the drive. There's not the issue. 456 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: It's the drive back, right, because you're like, you're gonna 457 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: play a night game. 458 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna back to the morning if. 459 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: You're driving back. I don't know what it is. Cleveland 460 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: to New York. 461 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: City is uh seven? Oh yeah, Okay, I basically just 462 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: did that to New Orleans. You know it's a drive. 463 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: How many BUCkies are between them? Okay, probably not happening, 464 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: is my point. But there'll be some Cavs fans maybe 465 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: flying over to New York. Actually, you would need Dan 466 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Gilbert to pay for those tickets. If you've seen the 467 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: process for a game one there. 468 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan Gilbert was probably well, how much is gas 469 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: for all these buses? 470 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 471 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: Ridiculous, but anyway, pretty cool for an owner to do. 472 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: There. 473 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 4: Totally a lot of respect to him. 474 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: Yep, what else you got from this one? 475 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: All start at the very beginning. The pregame hype video 476 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 5: was awesome. Yeah, it was common talking about noise basically, 477 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: and it felt like we got moments that real sickos. 478 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: No. 479 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: They even put in Zaza Pachulia nothing easy in there. 480 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 5: They had Kevin Durant stepping his toe on the line 481 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 5: against the Bucks, complete with the zoom in on his toe. 482 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty sweet. 483 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: Glad you brought up the game seven Zaza clip over 484 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: the verves bittersweet. 485 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: That was they got me hyped. 486 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Zaza yelling at us nothing easy. 487 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: Plus that drone shot coming from the rafters. 488 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: That was nice Prime's last game of the season. Yeaid 489 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: goodbye last night because they do not have the conference. 490 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Finals here, everybody's saying goodbye to Dirk. I didn't get 491 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: that by the Dirk specifically as opposed to the other guys. 492 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 2: The other guy is going to be around. I don't know. 493 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: There was there was just a lot of bye Dirk. 494 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: I mean they were they corrected themselves and they said, 495 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: I mean he's not going it. He'll be back, I guess, 496 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: but no, nothing specific about Blake Nash either way. We'll 497 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: get to more of that announcement by those guys on 498 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: Shay's MVP A little bit later that was that was 499 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: two good stuff. I do want to know, James Harden 500 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: does look funny to me, and this might just be 501 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: me pointing it out, but when he gets beat on 502 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: defense on defense, sometimes he looks like he's in ciment 503 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: at times, like Cati go buy him. He did go 504 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 2: buy him a couple times in this series, and it 505 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: looks like he's looking at the other side of the 506 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: floor like he's just not moving. It takes him a 507 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: while to get going and get back into rotation. So 508 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: that's it's hilarious to me. If you could do a 509 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: little montage of just James Harden, you're kind of looking 510 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 2: like Dylan Brooks looks at you know, during a national anthem, 511 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: just like locks in. It's pretty funny if you're in 512 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: my seat anyway. 513 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: James Harden was on some bullshit last night with some 514 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: griftin calls too. 515 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: He was doing his. 516 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: I loved when Duncan Robinson did a James Harden move 517 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: to James Harden in the corner. Three did some embellishing 518 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: on a on a three point shot and got the 519 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: free throw. 520 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: The guys were doing I mean, Mitchell was doing it 521 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: to that guy with the bugs bunny on his shirt. 522 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: I think I mean in the front sideline. 523 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were talking shit to that guy. Yeah, there 524 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 3: was one or two guys that are there. 525 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: They're always there. I think even Jared Allen was saying 526 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: umpthing to them at one point. 527 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: Oh really yeah? 528 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Uh did we have one of the quickest replay reviews 529 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: of all time when Duncan Robinson smacked suders quick? That 530 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: was so quick we didn't even we didn't even get 531 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: a shot of officials looking at monitors or talking to us, 532 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly. We saw the replay a couple 533 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: of times. Standvan's like, no, okay, yeah, it's a foul 534 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: he hit them. Yep, it's not a flag. 535 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 2: Let's go. That was good. 536 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: It was very cool. 537 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 4: That was a quick one, So. 538 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: Thank you to that. 539 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Kyle Nubeck had this tweet. NBA home blowouts are especially 540 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: soul crushing because the DJ just keeps firing up instrumentals 541 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: from two thousand and five rap songs while your team misses. 542 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: It's eleventh consecutive three. A lot of truth to that man, 543 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, I just always, I do always think a 544 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: lot of people pay good money for those seats. 545 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: Game seven, You're hyped. 546 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: You had all Sunday, all weekend really after the big game, 547 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: six win and just a sad trombone after you know 548 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: it is true, and it's. 549 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 5: Like a guy you gotta keep yelling Detroit. You got 550 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: to keep your bits up, even to the bitter end. 551 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 4: That's sad. 552 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the swag surfing here in Atlanta when 553 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: they were down forty. This is good. 554 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: You gotta do it, you gotta do it. 555 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: I like stan Van Gundy calling Ben Wallace looking like 556 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: a college professor and that wasn't good, and the Eagle said, yeah, 557 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: he's like a professor of rebounds in the defense and 558 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: something that very funny. 559 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 3: And that's about it. It's all I got from this one. 560 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: The only other thing I had was Caid had a 561 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 5: really funny turnover when like Jared Allen fell down and 562 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 5: then Kate threw a past to Jared Allen on the ground. 563 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, what happened there? It doesn't look like it was deflected. 564 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. Every kid passed that one 565 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: didn't look like it was deflected. That the one that 566 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: you mentioned at the beginning of the game, where he 567 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: tried to throw a left hooky Tobya his hair is 568 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: like fifty feet I had to keep going back and 569 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: was that Evan Mobley who poked it forty feet away 570 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: because his touch wasn't on. And then he passed that 571 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: one literally to Jared Allen sitting on the floor. The 572 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: turnover was committed because he passed it to a guy 573 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,479 Speaker 2: on the floor. 574 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: Kate wasn't right, no, I mean that's how we got 575 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: to a blowout situation. Kate was bad, not a good 576 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: kid game. And then nobody else of course helping, I 577 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: mean Jayllen Duran back to nothing. Beef stew was brutal 578 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: and Paul read the magic ran out, you know, like 579 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: we like Tobias can't hit a shot. Duncan Robinson was 580 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: okay like you said, but otherwise it was it was 581 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: pretty bad. 582 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, but good season overall. We'll see what 583 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 3: they do. 584 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: They have big decisions here as they now have shown 585 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: that they are one of the better teams obviously in 586 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. Now you got to obviously get kid 587 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: some help scoring wise, and got to figure out how 588 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 1: much is too much for Jaillen Duran after what we 589 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: just saw. He's an important piece. He was great all 590 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: regular season. But I don't know that guy. You can't 591 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: go like you're not going max on him. There's no 592 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: possible way you are. That's how you get yourself in 593 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: trouble as a franchise. 594 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, it takes some in the PLAYSFS takes 595 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: some multiple quarters to get going. And they tried to 596 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: go to him in the first quarter after the time out, 597 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: Jamie Bickersaf goes to him. He missed, but then he 598 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: was able to get it going and getting a miss 599 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: and put back and then you know they forced the 600 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: cass to call a timeout, but it didn't last long. 601 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: So that is a it's a fair question, especially with 602 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: a guy who's going to get an All NBA award. 603 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: I as soon make a team, yeah, I think so. Yeah. 604 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: All right, well let's hear your thoughts everybody in the 605 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: stream team on the Cavalier's dominant Game seven win, and 606 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: again we will preview and predict the Eastern Conference Finals 607 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: on tomorrow's podcast. We're gonna take quick break, then we'll 608 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: talk SGA and look at the West series. 609 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 5: Vanduel is giving you better payouts on same game parlays 610 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 5: all NBA playoffs long. 611 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 4: I heard pre show that we only have twelve to 612 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 4: twenty one games remaining. 613 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. It's either three sweeps or three game seven, 614 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: so twelve or twenty. 615 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: One, no in betweenituad that'd be crazy. 616 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: With more ways to build and more value every time 617 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 5: you play, you can stack your picks your way for 618 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 5: every game, every matchup, and every moment, from spreads to 619 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: player points to threes and more. Build it all into 620 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 5: one same game parlay and go for bigger payouts. So 621 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 5: if you're betting same game parlays this NBA season, bet 622 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 5: I'm on fan duel. 623 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: Please. 624 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: Here's a four legger that FanDuel has running right now. 625 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: These are all point rebound assist totals for four men. 626 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 5: Check thirty or more points rebounds assists combined going over 627 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 5: Castle thirty five. 628 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: Don't know about that one. 629 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 5: Bet at the glass Castle SGA forty points. 630 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 3: Rebounds assists Yeah, probably. 631 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: Wemby forty five. 632 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the stare steps wow assists. 633 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna saw. 634 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't that's there's no way all four of those 635 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: hits over for sure. 636 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: That seems pretty tough. 637 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's stepping you stepping up check Castle SGA, Wemby 638 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 5: thirty thirty five forty forty five. 639 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: That's a plus three three zero. 640 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: Six ten bucks wins three hundred and thirty five. 641 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: I mean it pays, It definitely pays. 642 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 5: That'd be a high scoring game. It feels like, yeah, 643 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 5: a brickie game. I guess with just like heavy rebounding 644 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 5: numbers for the guys they all go over ten plus boards. 645 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: They'd be crazy. 646 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 5: More auctions, better payouts all at NBA Playoffs. Lying head 647 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 5: to the FanDuel sportsbook Gap to get started. FanDuel official 648 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 5: partner of the NBA Player Game Player Game, New Trench 649 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 5: Coats for Everybody, New Trenchers. Thunderguard Shay Gildes Alexander has 650 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 5: won a second consecutive MVP award. The NBA announced this 651 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 5: last night, well Shaan's announced it first. Pissed Off Everybody Crime. 652 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: The now two time MVP finished with eighty three first 653 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: place votes compared to ten for Jokic and five for 654 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: when Binyama. Kate Cunningham did get two first place votes, 655 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: but Shay runs away with this in the end, tasks 656 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: going back to back like he's Steve Nash. 657 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the day, and Steve Nash announced it. 658 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: It was cool. 659 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: He was the guy who got to announce it because 660 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: he has been his mentor, so that was very cool. 661 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: It was also cool to hear Blake Griffin call out shots. 662 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: Nerds. 663 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 664 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: Man? 665 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: Like it's Sunday Shan's go to Brench Brunh Nerd calls 666 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: him a nerd. That's pretty it's funny. Yeah, that's funny. 667 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: He's I think he's actually the next Charles Barkley. 668 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 5: Wow, he's outspoken, but he's also willing to take it 669 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 5: and it's very self deprecating, but yeah, Shaye deserves it. 670 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: I thought it was funny. His little moment with Steve 671 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 5: Nash and Dirk. Dirk's asks him like, ten to fifteen 672 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: years from now, you're looking back at these two MVPs, 673 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: what do you what. 674 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 4: Are you thinking about him? 675 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 5: He's like, probably that I used to be really nice 676 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 5: and now I'm washed up, and Nash is like, that's 677 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 5: exactly what it's like, still advising him very bad as 678 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 5: her wins. 679 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: So a couple things about this. SGA's raw scoring actually 680 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: went down this season from thirty two point seven points 681 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: for game to thirty one point one, but he scored 682 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: those points far more efficiently, which is pretty amazing fifty 683 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: five percent from the floor thirty nine percent from three 684 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: eighty eight percent at the line, So flirting with a 685 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: flirting with a fifty five forty ninety line there. Sam 686 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: Quinn of CBS Sports noted that the only other player 687 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: to ever achieve those shooting percentages on more than two 688 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty total shots was Kevin Durant, and Kevin 689 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: Durant did it in forty seven games in twenty two 690 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: to twenty three. 691 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: So Sga did it in sixty. 692 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Eight games and still managed to finish his season with 693 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: fewer total turnovers and almost twice as many assists to 694 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: that KD season. So just mad efficiency here from this guy. 695 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: He's the seventh player over the last forty years to 696 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: win multiple NBA MVP awards by his twenty eighth birthday 697 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: does not turn twenty eight until July. 698 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: Sga Lebron had. 699 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: Three MVPs by twenty eight, and then it's Sga, Yokich, 700 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Giannis Curry, Duncan and Jordan. 701 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: Having the two up to that age. 702 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: Pretty incredible, just unbelievable season. His sustained success is sensational. 703 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: I didn't mean that to be a tong He sustained 704 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: success is simply sensational. Four straight season that SGA finished 705 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: in the top five in MVP voting and just scoring 706 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: thirty points per game over four consecutive seasons. This is 707 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Jordan esque man, it is, And look if he 708 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: can do it, if you can pull off another title 709 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: and finals MVP, then he is getting into. 710 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: Very rarefied air. 711 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: Were you shocked at all that he ran away with 712 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: like eighty three of the first place votes? Did you 713 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: think you'd be a little closer? 714 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: Not really, No, Now, he was always leading in the 715 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 5: bottom times straw polls, and you know, we do podcasts 716 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 5: every day, people do talk shows every day, so you 717 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 5: got to talk about something. So it makes it seem 718 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 5: like a guy like Wemby could be closing on him 719 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 5: during the last third of the season, like Jokic is 720 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 5: closing on him when he's putting up these monster lines 721 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 5: as well. But then once you actually settle down and 722 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 5: take a look at stuff, you're like, this guy averaged 723 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 5: thirty three games shooting fifty five percent on the best 724 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 5: team in the league. 725 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 4: Makes sense that he would be the MVP. 726 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the biggest surprise from all of voting 727 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: was that Wemby didn't surpass Jokic for second. I was 728 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: a little surprised by that, just considering Jokic is finished 729 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: to the season. I mean they won twelve in a 730 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: row in the season, but still he wasn't himself. 731 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: Even the last Monster numbers were earlier in the season. 732 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, after the injury, it was not himself. 733 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: And then Wemby came on late and they had a 734 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: dominant record when Wemby was playing. So yeah, Sga gets 735 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: a second and the street continues here for an international 736 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: guy winning MVP. That what are we up to now? 737 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: It's a long time running. Now, who was the last 738 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: American player to win it? Harden A r probably because 739 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: embiid obviously in there. Jokicch you're honest. Yeah, that's g Yeah, 740 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: I think. 741 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: That is right. 742 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: So here's where we're at as we spin this into 743 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: our thunder Spurs series preview. 744 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 4: Hold on one last thing. 745 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 5: It's good to be just a random dude on the thunder. 746 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 5: Did you see everything that Jay Yale just Alexander gave 747 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: these guys. 748 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: We've got trench coats, we got watches, custom golf bags. 749 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think they got iPhone seventeen's as well. 750 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 5: It was the gift basket, which is a hilarious inclusion. 751 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 5: But imagine being a guy like Brendan Carlson who's been 752 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: like a two way player for the Thunder the last 753 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 5: two years. He's making like probably made like five hundred 754 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 5: thousand dollars at an NBA career, but he's got a 755 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 5: Rolex and an Autumar PJ as well. 756 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: He didn't have to pay for ye hangs out and 757 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: gets a cool stuff. 758 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: Shadon pull a Tom Dundan of the Portland Trailblazers and 759 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: say two way guys don't get all the guests. He 760 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: was part of that video where Chet put on a 761 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: trench coat that was literally like to his butt. 762 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, order of another one Chet's getting too. 763 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: He said it wasn't even close to a jacket. I thought, 764 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: was that a joke or maybe Chet doesn't like trench coats? 765 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: Did it? Was it? It was it sewn? 766 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: Was I mean he would be a hard guy to 767 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: buy a jacket. 768 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: That was pretty fun. 769 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess he is getting two of the birdbaryed 770 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: trench coats. The looks hilarious where Shason is obviously his 771 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: blazer and his Jean getting the award and everybody else 772 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: in trench coats yeap looking like inspector gadget. 773 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: Inspector gadgets, but then also just like wearing whatever underneath, 774 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 5: like Jada was wearing pajama pants. 775 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, okakay, but he looked excited to go get his 776 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: golf peg. That says Williams on it. For a second, 777 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: I had a brain fork because I saw three Williams 778 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: golf bags. 779 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: Forgot Kenrich, Yeah, forgot? 780 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a couple of jay Lynn j dub who's 781 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: the other one? Uh? But yeah, I wonder who plays 782 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 2: golf on that team. Who's the best golfer on the Thunder? 783 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: What they to me seem like a team that doesn't 784 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: golf ur they're so young. 785 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah white, Yeah, yeah, so he's probably you think. 786 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely thinking Carlson does that too. Okay, but 787 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: yeah they Criss Crusoe played. Okay, who cares about their 788 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 2: golf crews? 789 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into uh thunder Spurs preview here the 790 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: most anticipated matchup of the twenty six NBA Playoffs. We 791 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: got it, It's arrived. The reigning champion Thunder will go 792 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: up against the upstart Spurs in the Western Conference Finals 793 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: best of seven series tips tonight. It's gonna mark the 794 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: first matchup between two sixty win teams since the Bulls 795 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: and Jazz met in the ninety eight finals. 796 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 3: Remember that the Thunder are a perfect. 797 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 1: Eight to no through two rounds. They're the favorites to 798 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: win this series at minus two to sixty on FanDuel. 799 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: But the Spurs had okc's number throughout the regular season. 800 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: They took four or five games from about mid December 801 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: to early February. So can Wemby and the Spurs pull 802 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: off the upset here? And I think I heard zach 803 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: Lo say the Spurs have like a thirty seven and 804 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: three record over their last forty games in which Wemby 805 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: played fifteen minutes or more. So they are just obviously 806 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: next to unbeatable over the last half the season when 807 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: Wemby's been out there playing in a decent amount of minutes. 808 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: So look, this is awesome. 809 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 3: It is as if you don't have a dog in 810 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 3: this race. 811 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: You do. 812 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: If you don't care if the Thunder, you know, repeat, 813 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: or the Spurs obviously get to the finals, you're just 814 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: a basketball fan. 815 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 3: This is amazing. We got this. 816 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: We were hoping for it, we thought we'd get it, 817 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: and now we do. So one thing to watch in 818 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: the number one versus number two seed in the Western Conference. 819 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 2: Finals, well, okay see, just trying to get Victor wembin 820 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 2: Yama moving around as much as possible is what I'm watching, 821 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 2: because that is the whole goal. Get Wemby away from 822 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: the paint, have to go for three point shooters, but 823 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: also just the cutters, all the speed that OKAYC is 824 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: going to have, and the depth that they have ten 825 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: guys on their roster playing ten plus minutes so far 826 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 2: in the postseason. And now you get a Jaylen Williams 827 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: back who's going to start. A j Mitchell guy who 828 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 2: averaged nineteen points per game can just come off the bench. 829 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: And so that factor of just trying to get Wemby 830 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: as tired as possible with a team that is extremely 831 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 2: well rested, okay see having a week off, because you 832 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 2: look at the numbers in those four four wins that 833 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: are four and one against okay see, Wemby didn't block 834 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: a lot of shots. He only blocked six blocks in 835 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 2: those five games that he played. Night played some fewer minutes, 836 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: but still he was scoring. The point is just to 837 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: get Wemby moving as much as possible, because that is 838 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: the goal. Against the San Antonio Spurts. You have to 839 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 2: to tire him out offensively as well, because is okaysee 840 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: is ready for this. They have been prepared. They had 841 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 2: they yes, they had two playoff rounds, but they also 842 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: got a week off in between each. They're waiting for 843 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: this conference finals. They planned the whole thing, and so 844 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 2: I think the whole plan is wem Yama getting guessed 845 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: if they can. 846 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: And in a lot of those regular season matchups, Wemby 847 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: would play against or he'd be put on the Carusos 848 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: of the world, the Dorts of the world, so he 849 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: could just roam and it was like, we will see 850 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: if you can beat us from distance. We have the 851 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: one game where Caruso was like two for twelve from 852 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: deep to twelve. 853 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: Three point a tempts. Big part of these wide open 854 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: he's got to take them. You got to shoot him. 855 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I mean, I look, well, we 856 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: see wembyond chet I hope. So I think there'll be 857 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: some matchups. But I don't know why the Spurs would 858 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: go away with what was working in the regular season, 859 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: putting Wemby on one of those non shooters so he 860 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: can just roam everywhere, eyes everywhere, everybody else, be aggressive 861 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: on the perimeter, all our young athletic guards, and he'll 862 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: be back there obviously as the insurance factor, So I 863 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: think we'll see more of that too. But I get 864 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: your take on what they got to do to Wemby 865 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: to tire him out, and will Wemby's minutes here finally 866 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: increase in the postseason? 867 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they haven't had him need to play 868 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 5: a whole bunch of minutes. That's gonna be exciting for me. 869 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 5: The big thing to watch here is best player in 870 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 5: the world status is up for grabs in this series, 871 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 5: because at first I'm thinking, Wow, Chet versus Wemby, what 872 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 5: a cool matchup of rivals. Guess what, Wemby's passed him Like, 873 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 5: It's not even a question between these two guys anymore, 874 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 5: with how good Wemby has become on the defensive end, 875 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 5: combined with his offensive skills as well. So you got 876 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 5: to look at the next logical rival for Wemby, and 877 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 5: it is SGA two time MVP, best team in the League, 878 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 5: defending champion awesome player. He would be the best player 879 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 5: in the world right now. But Wemby is right on 880 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 5: his heels. You can make an argument that he was 881 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 5: the best player in the league the last third of 882 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 5: the season. Maybe has been the player in the league 883 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 5: when he's been on the court in the playoffs as well. 884 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 5: I think whoever wins this series going into next year, 885 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 5: we're saying that guy's the MVP favorite and he's the 886 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 5: number one player in the world, And I think either 887 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 5: team could literally take this, like I can give him. 888 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 5: The Spurs a huge chance in this because they have Wemby. 889 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 890 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: One thing I'm watching is can the Spurs survive okay 891 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: C's physicality, because you know this team likes to claw, grab, 892 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: hold the whole concept of they're not going to be 893 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: able to call everything. We can be physical. We have 894 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: a million guys that we can just keep rotating into. 895 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: We'll never tire that way. Okay, see leads the playoffs 896 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: with nearly twenty three points per game off turnovers. So 897 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: the Spurs, like any matchup when we talk about the thunder, 898 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: the other team in order to win four to seven 899 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: has to take care of the basketball. Cannot be sloppy 900 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: with it, cannot give up those easy fast break transition 901 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: points to the thunder where suddenly they just rip off 902 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: the twelve ozho fourteen oh run and your suddenly you're 903 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: in a daze and calling a timeout, like what the 904 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: hell happened? We just turned the ball over three times 905 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: and it's you know, Wallace and Crusoe and Dorton, Sga 906 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: and j dub and all them screaming the other way. 907 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: So that's huge, all that ball pressure, hold on protect 908 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: that rock, and I think they can, Like I think 909 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: the Spurs, even though these guys are young, they play 910 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: with a physicality to them as well in Castle and 911 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: Harper and Fox, So I mean, like, look, it's different. 912 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: You know, Minnesota had one, let's say, good perimeter defender 913 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: and Jada McDaniels because Ant was definitely limited. I didn't 914 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: wasn't really impressed what he got brought defensively in that 915 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: last series. But okay See has four or five six 916 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: guys case Walla. So I'm excited to see because the 917 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,479 Speaker 1: Spurs guard play is a big reason why they're here 918 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: and like ahead of developmental sort of progress. 919 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 2: Here and why they beat okay See four out of 920 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 2: five games. Even though they weren't turning over the thunder 921 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: a ton, they were running a ton. And the fast breaks, 922 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: whether it was off makes or misses from Okay see 923 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: a free throws, they had one guy bring up the 924 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: ball as fast as possible, one of their guards, whether 925 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: it's Castle, whether it was Harper, or whether it was Fox. 926 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 2: And they would pick their matchups and say we can 927 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: go right hard, right at them, and that's why they won. 928 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: They won because of the guard play. You look at 929 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 2: Wemby's stats throughout those four games, and in the five 930 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 2: games they played many average twenty points per game this 931 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: season versus Okac minus won quiet game whereas he was 932 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: even quieter. So that's those are the numbers. We talked 933 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 2: that fan duel line, like he's not gonna score a ton. 934 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think it's those other guys that 935 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 2: you have to rely on because they match the turnover 936 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 2: scoring from Okac with just running the heck out of it. 937 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: And we shall see. We shall see what Check can 938 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 2: do versus Wemby. This is a big series for Check 939 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 2: in that regard because Wemby has owned him to some degree. 940 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: But Chet is having his best playoffs of his career, 941 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 2: and this is been He's been so good on offense, 942 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 2: so there's a lot on his shoulders that he's right. 943 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure he's ready to go up against Wemby, even 944 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 2: though they won't be matched up. You're gonna get Wemby 945 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: to guard Hertenstein to start, you know, just to be 946 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 2: able to roam and not have to go out to 947 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: a three point shooter. But Chet's got a lot to 948 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 2: play for. 949 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 5: How Cassel is I think hugely important in this series 950 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 5: as well. He's kind of been foul happy, I think 951 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 5: during the postseason so far has filed out one game 952 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 5: of each of the first two series that the Spurs played. 953 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 5: He's been in foul trouble a bunch of other times 954 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 5: just because he plays so aggressively and play so physically. 955 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 5: They need him to help try and wear down Shake 956 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 5: Gilders Alexander. They need him to be efficient on the 957 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 5: offensive end as well. It wouldn't be surprising to see 958 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 5: the Spur or the Thunder do something similar to what 959 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 5: the every team does, where it's like, okay, Castle, we're 960 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 5: gonna give you wide open jumpers. Like how many jumpers 961 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 5: did he have against the Timberwolves in Game six, he 962 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 5: was not gonna go down right away. That was huge, 963 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 5: but you got to do it against this Thunder team 964 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 5: because to beat the Thunder you got to make threes. 965 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 5: So they need him to keep his head and to 966 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 5: be able to play at play off level while being 967 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 5: able to stay on the court as well. 968 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: How do you think San Antonio plays Sga. Do you 969 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: think we'll see what the Lakers did and just a 970 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: bunch of double teams on him like the Spurs did 971 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: to Anthony Edwards where they sort of trap and then 972 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: recover because they're so athletic out there and you got 973 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: Wemby behind you. 974 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 3: Is that the game plan? Do that again with SGA 975 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 3: just in the ant roll. 976 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 4: Probably not right away, but eventually they'll get to that, 977 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 4: I imagine. 978 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 979 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they do start one on one, but 980 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 2: they'll pick their spots with their doubles. Yeah, yeah, not 981 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 2: many of them. 982 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to X factors here in the 983 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: Thunder Spurs matchup. Start with you, Trey, who's a big 984 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: X factor. 985 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 5: I think Julian Champenny's gonna be big in this series. 986 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 5: Only went seven for twenty five from three against the 987 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 5: Thunder in the regular season but he's shooting forty five 988 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,479 Speaker 5: percent from three in the playoffs. I think he could 989 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 5: be a potential Jalen Williams defender, and that's like a matchup. 990 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned for the. 991 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 5: Spurs four because they don't have a great, sizeable wing 992 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 5: like Jalen Williams. And he says he's very healthy coming 993 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 5: into this one because they got so much time off, 994 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 5: Like it feels like the Thunder played basketball for a 995 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 5: week and then just chill for ten days. Play basketball 996 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 5: for a week and then we can relax for ten 997 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 5: days and everybody put on a trench coat and have 998 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 5: a good time. But uh, I do think Jalen Williams 999 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 5: can be a tough matchup for the Spurs. Maybe Carter 1000 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 5: Bryant will have to play on him, but I think 1001 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 5: Champenny Vecell to a lesser extent will be the same. 1002 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 5: But yeah, I do think that Champenny is gonna have 1003 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 5: to make open threes because it feels like the ball 1004 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 5: will probably find him a lot. I think if he 1005 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 5: shoots from the corners, he's probably one hundred percent, and 1006 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 5: above the break, it's like thirty percent. I don't know 1007 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 5: if that's true, but That's what it feels like in 1008 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 5: my heart. 1009 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like when it comes to it, Jalen 1010 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 2: Williams like he'll be fine coming back from a long 1011 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: time out because he had to do it multiple times 1012 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 2: this season, and I think he got better each time 1013 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: he had to return because the last one he did 1014 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: really really well. So to me, the X factor are 1015 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 2: X factors on OKAC side all those guys off the bench, 1016 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: because you know they're going to bring so many of them. 1017 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 2: So Caruso, can you just bump and grind Wembach to 1018 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 2: wear him down here every single possession, give him a 1019 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 2: litle knock, give him a little push to see if 1020 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 2: Wemby can be hurt. Or aj Mitchell, can you come 1021 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: and just drop some points like you need to when 1022 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: Jalen Williams sits or whoever Cason Willis, can he hit 1023 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 2: some shots? He missed sixteen of his twenty one threes 1024 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 2: versus Okay this season. Jalen Williams, I wonder if the 1025 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 2: jay will can get played off the floor a little bit. 1026 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 2: I doubt it, but you know they have size spurs 1027 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 2: do with Luke Cornett over Jayleen Williams. Jenle Willims was 1028 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 2: fine in their series this year. But those guys plus 1029 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 2: the Jared McCain, Like, if those guys can all chip in, 1030 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: that's what okay, So he does so so well. So 1031 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: it's it's the collective for me, the. 1032 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: Thunder seem to be looking in the mirror here when 1033 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 1: it comes to roster depth and athleticism because the Spurs 1034 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 1: can match him a lot of these guys, And I'm excited. 1035 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: I even think we're gonna have weird X factors in 1036 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: this series, like maybe even potentially like ken Rich Williams 1037 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: or Harrison Barnes, Like there's gonna be a player to 1038 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: here from one of these coaches where they're going to 1039 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: like the tenth or eleventh guy in some cases just 1040 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: to see what they got. But my big X factor, 1041 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: you guys already brought him up. But Chet Holmgren. I 1042 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: think Chet Holgren has to play well for the Thunder 1043 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: to beat the Spurs here four to seven games. They 1044 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: ignored him in the regular season matchup. Wemby just ignored him. 1045 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: The team ignored him, and Chet did not hit threes. 1046 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: He hit two three pointers in four games. And he also, 1047 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, to quote a pretty cool podcast. I know 1048 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: he wiped his ass. Wemby did inside he got crushed 1049 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: by this guy. So Hogren averaged ten and a half 1050 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: points per game on thirty nine percent shooting versus the Spurs. 1051 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: His body language was bad, his confidence did look a 1052 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: little shook. Wemby was in his head or whatever. He's 1053 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: been great in the postseason though, but he was playing 1054 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: a Sun's team that had no centers and then you 1055 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: know they're playing the Lakers team there and that was 1056 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: fairly easy too. 1057 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is different. 1058 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: I hope he's up for the challenge here, and again 1059 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: I hope we get a couple fun little one on 1060 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: one matchups between the two seven foot but I think 1061 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 1: Chuck's huge in this in addition to shooters on the Spurs, 1062 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: Aj Mitchell and like, I just can't wait to see, 1063 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: like which random guy does have a huge quarter here, 1064 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: because there's like Isaiah Joe who's sort of like he 1065 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: could you could tell me he doesn't play at all 1066 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: in the series, or dag Naelt's like, well, don't see 1067 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: what he can give us, Yeah, and then he's like, oh, 1068 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: he splashes three threes and it's like, oh, here we go. 1069 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's the same with McCain. 1070 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 5: It's like he didn't play at all for then in 1071 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 5: the Sun series because Jalen Williams was healthy. So you know, 1072 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 5: Mitchell will go to the bench, he'll take the Jared 1073 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 5: McCain minutes. But McCain was awesome in their last series 1074 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 5: against the Timberwolves. 1075 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 4: I would want. 1076 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 5: Him or uh, who did they even play the Lakers? 1077 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 5: I guess Yeah, I would want him on the court, 1078 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 5: but he might not be. But he's also the kind 1079 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 5: of guy that he could not play for two games. 1080 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 5: You'd throw him in for twelve minutes in the second quarter. 1081 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 5: He goes four for four, five three. You know, so 1082 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 5: I think the Spurs like have to win the bench minutes. Yeah, 1083 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 5: kind of like that means Keldon Johnson to me is 1084 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 5: a hugely important player as well. He's been very up 1085 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 5: and down, mostly down. Yeah, very inconsistent. Just seems like 1086 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 5: maybe his game doesn't translate perfectly, but sometimes it can. 1087 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Carter Bryan, I think is going to play in 1088 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: this series again to the rook I mean obviously just 1089 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: for pure athleticism alone, but you like, don't turn it over, kid, 1090 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, pressure on him here in these bigger games. 1091 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 3: But he's gonna play. 1092 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 2: There's a guy named Aaron Wiggins who might play. 1093 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I mean. 1094 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: It'll be fascinating to see who they dust off here 1095 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: in this series because of matchups are what they see. 1096 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: You're opening on the floor. Yeah, what they can give 1097 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: them beyond bo series for you guys, I think I'll 1098 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: draw the line there, like, look, no, Kelly, Kelly, I. 1099 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 4: Don't think we're seeing those socks. 1100 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to see what he brings out. 1101 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 3: He's conference final socks. 1102 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 2: I think he will change it up. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, 1103 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: because we've got the ankle list. Then we had those 1104 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 2: ugly black things he was wearing. What were those things? 1105 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 2: I mean, they're like a hole down. 1106 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 4: Cut his socks. 1107 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were shorter. 1108 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: It looked like they look they were afraid. Yeah yeah, yuck, yuck. 1109 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 2: He's gonna wear actual socks if there's a blow, yeah. 1110 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: I think to me, to me, the Spurs are playing 1111 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 1: nine guys, but maybe ten because I do think Harrison Barnes, 1112 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna play because I played well 1113 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: against okaysee in the regular scene too, so I think 1114 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: he'll that'll be their ten guys. 1115 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 3: And then it sounds like you're. 1116 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 2: Taking the Spurs. Baby. The depth is just really really important. 1117 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 2: As much as maybe the casual fan doesn't care about that, 1118 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 2: it is really important. I think. Okay, so he does 1119 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: have the depth advantage here, but Harry Bow, Harrison Barnes 1120 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 2: might come hit a mid range shot, might hit a 1121 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 2: three point shot, might set up a lob for Devin 1122 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 2: Bussell like he did in the last round. Yes, he 1123 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: will be important, but does the age matter when it 1124 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: comes to the young guys? Forget Harry bo, but a 1125 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 2: Carter Bryan or Dylan Harper probably not, Probably doesn't matter 1126 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 2: that guy versus Mitchell. That's cool. 1127 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: Let's hear your prediction for this Western Conference final series 1128 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: that everybody wanted. 1129 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm going with the depth of this Oklahoma City Thunder. 1130 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: I think Aj Mitchell does match Dylan Harper off the bench, 1131 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 2: and I think that's really really important because of how 1132 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 2: many guys they have behind Aj Mitchell. I'm taking the 1133 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: Thunder in six. 1134 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 3: Okay, TK, Are you going Spurs or Sticks? 1135 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 5: Is honestly to me like the smart pick the wise 1136 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 5: man's pick. 1137 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 4: So I'll take the Spurs in six. 1138 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 1139 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 4: They got Wenby. Hey, look, nobody else has. 1140 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: I think you are right, it's going to be fun 1141 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: to see this best player in the world sort of 1142 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 1: battle here. Not that they're on each other, but SGA 1143 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: is the two time reigning MVP. Yeah, they are the 1144 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: defending champs, and he's been while he was awesome in 1145 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: the first round against the Suns, quieted in the second round, 1146 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: but making all the right plays, and it's like, okay, yeah, 1147 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: we'll play. 1148 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: We'll play obviously with an advantage because you're putting two 1149 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 3: on me. That's okay. 1150 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: And aj Mitchell obviously blossom into sort of that second scorer. 1151 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: But I think, like I don't know, SGA seems to 1152 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: he needs to probably get back to the thirty point 1153 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: per game sort of level here in this series, having 1154 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: some big monster scoring games, I think. And then there's Webby. Yeah, 1155 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 1: the Wemby factor is awesome. Does it do his minutes 1156 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: go up? What type of stat lines are we looking at? 1157 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 1: Does he embarrass and own shed again here? 1158 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 4: You know? 1159 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 3: Is his three ball falling? 1160 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: There's that part of the equation. Does Caruso or dork 1161 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: get get under his skin and frustrate him? Is he 1162 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: throwing another bow? For all we know? It's a it's fun. 1163 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm going thunder, But I'll go thunder and seven. I mean, 1164 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: we asked for this all season long. They've already played. 1165 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: They already played a five game series which Spurs did 1166 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: win four five THEA A. J. Mitchell didn't play in 1167 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: a lot of those games and he should be big 1168 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: off the bench. But I'll go thunder and seven. Home 1169 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: court advantage, tough place to play, the experience. Yeah, I 1170 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: feel like this one's a lot of people picking Thunder, 1171 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people pick and Spurs. 1172 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 4: Fifty seven percent of the stream team. 1173 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 3: Is choosing the Thunders. 1174 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 4: Okay, see the Spurs. 1175 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, Okay, I love it. 1176 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 2: I love it does feel like a coin flip in 1177 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 2: a weird way. Even though these two teams are great, 1178 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: it wouldn't be surprising to see the Spurs win. 1179 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 5: Yeah that it doesn't feel like a coin flip to me. 1180 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 5: I think Okay, see is kind of clearly the better team, 1181 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 5: the more experienced team, the deeper team, but they don't 1182 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 5: have Wemby, so they do have a great chance and 1183 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 5: it wouldn't be shocking to see the Spurs actually take this. 1184 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,479 Speaker 4: And that's going to be competitive for sure. 1185 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: Let's hear your predictions in the stream, team, or if 1186 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 1: you're watching this a little bit later, probably clip this out. 1187 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: Let's hear it. Who do you got winning this series? 1188 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 1: How many games? Who's an X Factor? Things to watch for? 1189 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,320 Speaker 3: All that good stuff? 1190 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: Lit bit a little Bit of the Night sponsored by 1191 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: David for his two and a half year old daughter, Amelia. 1192 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 1: David wrote in Amelia is too young to watch her 1193 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: listen to you guys, but I was just so proud 1194 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: of her this week for pooping in the toilet for 1195 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: the first time ever. I wanted to share it with everyone. 1196 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,359 Speaker 3: I know you just did. 1197 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: I doubt I will ever be as pleased to see 1198 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: a turd in a porcelain bowl again. 1199 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 3: Okay, a little too much, David, That's okay. 1200 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: Not only that she went three more times in the 1201 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 1: same afternoon, all dead center of the bowl. 1202 00:52:58,800 --> 00:52:59,919 Speaker 3: Okay, now way too. 1203 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, Breen poops here four afternoon poops. Maybe she's 1204 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 1: trying to join the tweet of the week Army, Oh 1205 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: good say if you're back, David, thanks as always for 1206 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: the daily classics. 1207 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 3: Listening to you guys. 1208 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: Banter always puts a smile on my face and helps 1209 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: balance out the stress from potty training. So David coming 1210 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: through with the woe Boy sponsor, I think he had 1211 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: to run that by his wife or his partner. No, hey, 1212 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of sponsoring Amelia's potty training on a basketball podcast. 1213 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. Plus, it's about stat line. So he gives us 1214 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: the stats of one plus three poops right in the middle, 1215 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 2: the approximation of where it went, and we got a 1216 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 2: poop emoji and an email had to include. 1217 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: Hey, it's great work. Well I'll tell you who wasn't 1218 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: poop last night. 1219 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 3: Evan Mobley. That's your woe boy. 1220 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: Scored twenty one points to go with twelve boards in 1221 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: the game, seven wins, seven to ten from the field, 1222 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: six assists, who steals two blocks? 1223 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 3: This guy. In order for the Calves to beat the Knicks, 1224 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 3: he's got to play like he did. 1225 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 2: In game seven. 1226 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that to me is when Wow Mobley is jumping 1227 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 1: off the screen, playing with force, contributing on both ends, 1228 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: you just you know he's there and he is making 1229 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: an impact, and it is you know, overall, he got 1230 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: better and better as that series went on against Pistons, 1231 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: and I think he's got to maintain that level for 1232 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: them to beat the Knicks, who are the favorites in 1233 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals. 1234 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 4: But good game from him, very good game for him. 1235 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,479 Speaker 2: Lill he missed some free throws, but that's okay. 1236 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,319 Speaker 1: Well that was the best defense the Pistons had last 1237 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: night at the free throw line. Man, I think stan 1238 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: Van said that night they were clanking things. Twenty eight 1239 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: for forty four could have been massacre. Yeah, no, it 1240 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: should have been like a forty point victory. All right, 1241 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 1: we'll call it there. Esh, forgot to ask you when 1242 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: we were doing it, my bad. Uh, who do you 1243 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: have in in Spurs thunder? 1244 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 6: Uh? 1245 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm taking the Spurs? 1246 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 3: Okay? Seven? 1247 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 4: Seven? 1248 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 5: Whoa wow? 1249 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 3: Haven't had any repeat winners in a while. That is 1250 00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 3: the NBA parody era. 1251 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,879 Speaker 2: And like saying they got winby man, and I'm just. 1252 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 1: Do you think does everybody here think this is our 1253 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: actual NBA finals? 1254 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:09,399 Speaker 2: Yes? 1255 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 6: Whoever, whoever wins, this is winning the championship. Sure, like 1256 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,880 Speaker 6: the Knicks and Calves, like, I don't think they have 1257 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 6: a chance against. 1258 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: Either, okay, tests yeah, yeah, yes, they will be the 1259 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 1: heavy favorites coming out of this. 1260 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: Well there already are they already? Are? I mean both 1261 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 2: teams from the East Way down in the odds to win. 1262 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 3: The whole thing. 1263 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair enough. 1264 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 4: Can make it interesting, Oh yeah, I mean. 1265 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 2: It's got to be. It's got to be the Knicks. 1266 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,280 Speaker 3: It's gotta be the Knicks. 1267 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: Well, the only thing the Knicks or Caves need to 1268 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: hope happens here is like these two teams just destroy 1269 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: each other in a seven game series. There's an injury 1270 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: or two to both sides, whatever, a depleted team, maybe 1271 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: for one of them to pull it off in the finals. 1272 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: But I'm getting ahead of myself. We will talk Calves 1273 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: Knicks tomorrow. We'll preview that and make our predictions. So 1274 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 1: join us at ten am Eastern. Hit the light button. 1275 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 1: Subscribe podcast listeners. We love you too, five star ratings 1276 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: and reviews until tomorrow. Clipper Bros. 1277 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 4: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up, 1278 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 4: love you guys awesome. 1279 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember you gotta be on 1280 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 2: the Chattanooga lookout for quick camera switches with the new 1281 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 2: man operating the board over there, Trey had a quick look. 1282 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 2: If you started our show with us on YouTube, you 1283 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 2: had to you had to look over because Ash got him. 1284 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: Ash got him with the switch. 1285 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: Should go to Trey solo for a second, because let's 1286 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: get a good look at this new hat. 1287 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 3: This guy's rocking here. 1288 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 4: Look at that. 1289 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 3: What is this the Chattanooga Lookout? 1290 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 5: Is this a Chattanooga Lookouts road cap? He invented the 1291 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 5: eyes of Moji. They came out with this in nineteen 1292 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 5: ninety three. It was like thirty years before Emoji's. 1293 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean it's a cool cap. 1294 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 5: It's a great I like like, if you read a 1295 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 5: sports illustrated for kids back in the day, you knew 1296 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 5: about the Chattanooga Lookouts and the Carolina Mudcats. 1297 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, is that what another one was? Sounds right? 1298 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? It has like a catfish. 1299 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 5: On THEIRS Durham Bulls. But nowadays everybody's got a wild logo. 1300 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,240 Speaker 5: In minor league baseball, you don't have normal teams anymore. 1301 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 5: They were playing the Pensacle of Blue Wahoos. Apparently it's 1302 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 5: a kind of fish because this is the Miami Marlins 1303 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,200 Speaker 5: farm system, and all their teams are like the Giant 1304 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 5: carp at, the Blue Wahoos, the Big Bass Boys. 1305 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 4: Things like this. But yeah, I like to have a hat. 1306 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 2: It's got eyes on it. It's nice. 1307 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:27,919 Speaker 4: Hot man thanks. 1308 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 3: How is Nuga? 1309 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 4: I love Chattanooga. I'm I'm a fan. 1310 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 5: If I can go for two nights every three years, 1311 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 5: that's a perfect cadence for me. 1312 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 2: I love. 1313 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna say every three months, but I've been. 1314 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: There that long. 1315 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 5: But every time I go, the aquarium pulls me back 1316 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 5: tast I thought I was going to the children's museum. 1317 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 2: Nope. 1318 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 4: Next thing I know, I'm touching sturgeons at the aquarium. 1319 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 4: That is beautiful, ugly prehistoric fish. 1320 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 2: Get to touch them, though, yeah. 1321 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 5: Get to touch and they haven't changed since the days 1322 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 5: of the dinosaurs, and I'm thinking maybe they should because. 1323 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, gross, there's a new dinosaur just dropped. Did you 1324 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 3: see that? 1325 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 4: Another one? 1326 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1327 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 3: I know what you know. 1328 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: I was rolling my Chattanooga lookout eyes, get out of here, 1329 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: big dino. 1330 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 3: Just making up new dinos all the time. 1331 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 5: Don't get me started on the axel lottle. Where did 1332 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 5: this thing come from? And now everybody knows what the 1333 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 5: axe a lottle is. They're selling axe lottle hats at 1334 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 5: the aquarium. 1335 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,959 Speaker 3: This is see, this is what I'm saying. So I'm saying, 1336 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 3: they're just making it, that's all. They're doing all right. 1337 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 3: We'll see you guys tomorrow and brace today people,