WEBVTT - TechStuff Goes on a Voyage

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<v Speaker 1>Get in tech with technology with Textile from hof dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey then, everyone, and welcome to text Stuff. I'm Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Strickland and I'm Lauren voc Obam. And today we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about something that was sent into us by

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<v Speaker 1>a listener. Listener Eric via Twitter said, can we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Voyager? The Voyager spacecraft? And oh, how we can? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we can. So we divided this up into a few

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<v Speaker 1>different sections to talk about, and the first thing we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about was kind of what was the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of the Voyager missions, which by the way, are

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<v Speaker 1>still going right now. But we wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the timeline of the missions, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into more details about the spacecraft itself, and then

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<v Speaker 1>follow that up with a discussion about the science that

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<v Speaker 1>has been discovered by these amazing spacecraft. So, going back

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<v Speaker 1>to May nineteen seventy two, that's when NASA begins to

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<v Speaker 1>fund a mission that will involve designing, building, and launching

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<v Speaker 1>spacecraft that are meant to explore the outer planets of

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<v Speaker 1>our Solar System. And even before this, back in the

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<v Speaker 1>nine an engineer named Gary Flandreau noticed that sometime in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies, the outer planets would be aligned planetary

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<v Speaker 1>alignment in such a way as to make this very possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was you know, the space program was going

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<v Speaker 1>and booming, and it was kind of an incredible alignment

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<v Speaker 1>of the stars that allowed us to write when we

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<v Speaker 1>had money to do this stuff. Right, So, so I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that planetary alignment is really what makes the voyageer

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<v Speaker 1>missions possible because you know, if the if the plants

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<v Speaker 1>were in such an alignment so that let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>well there's still aligned properly, they're just not viable for

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<v Speaker 1>us to explore. But let's say let's say like Jupiters

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<v Speaker 1>on one side of the Sun and Saturn's on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the Sun, it would be really tricky

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<v Speaker 1>to design a spacecraft trajectory that could explore both. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>and this particular alignment isn't going to occur again for

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<v Speaker 1>another hundred and seventy six years, so you had to

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<v Speaker 1>jump on the opportunity. And so in nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it was still years away from when this

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<v Speaker 1>alignment would occur, NASA gets on the ball and starts

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<v Speaker 1>to design this and in nineteen seventy seven they are

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<v Speaker 1>finished with the design, and the spacecraft they had been

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<v Speaker 1>designing was under the working name the Mariner Jupiter slash

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<v Speaker 1>Saturn nineteen seventy seven, but they decided to rename it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a mouthful, yeahah, they called it Voyager,

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<v Speaker 1>And on August twenty, nineteen seventy seven, a Titan Centaur

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<v Speaker 1>rocket carried one of the two Voyager spacecraft from Cape Canaveral, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>into the atmosphere and ultimately into space. Which one was

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<v Speaker 1>it that launched first? It was Voyager two that launched first.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one launched second, Voyager one? Okay, So so this

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<v Speaker 1>this was basically for pr purposes because the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they were designed, Voyager one was going to do to

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<v Speaker 1>with trajectory. It was going to reach Jupiter first and

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<v Speaker 1>so start sending back images of Jupiter. You know, fingers

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<v Speaker 1>crossed if all goes well first, and NASA thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the public would be incredibly confused if if a Voyager

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<v Speaker 1>one launched first but got to the planets second, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>some for some reason, launching second and getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>planet first is less confusing. No one was paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to the launch, yeah, goodness knows, no one pays attention

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<v Speaker 1>to something spectacular. Yeah, the one thing you're actually able

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<v Speaker 1>to watch while you're still on Earth. Uh. It still

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<v Speaker 1>makes me tear up every single time anything gets launched

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<v Speaker 1>in to space. I'm like, just humanity is so beautiful. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty awesome. I mean, when you think about what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to get something into space, it is phenomenal

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of engineering and ingenuity that went into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, so the Voyager to launches first. The voyage

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<v Speaker 1>Or one launches about sixteen days later. In fact, not

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<v Speaker 1>about sixteen days later, at launches nasically on September nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's using the same sort of rocket, the Titans

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<v Speaker 1>Centaur rocket, which, by the way, I love it. Um anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the initial purpose was for these to explore the giant

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<v Speaker 1>planets in the Outer Solar System. Those giant planets are Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus,

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<v Speaker 1>and Neptune Um. Pluto of course, not a giant planet,

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<v Speaker 1>it does not get the treatment, not for these missions.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget you Pluto. And there were two separate trajectories that

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<v Speaker 1>were being used. Voyager one, of course, was designed so

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<v Speaker 1>that the trajectory was chosen so that it would reach

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<v Speaker 1>Jupiter first, then move on to Saturn, and then get

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<v Speaker 1>flung off to head toward interstellar space. Uh. Voyager too

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<v Speaker 1>would do a visit to all four of the giant planets.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why you have the different timelines. But because

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<v Speaker 1>even though Voyager two launched first, for it to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to hit this trajectory where it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>pass by each of the four giants, it had to

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<v Speaker 1>do that at a different different Yeah. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And if you were to just look at

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<v Speaker 1>a model of the Solar System and just spend the

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<v Speaker 1>plants around at the different rates, you would see like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now I understand you would have to be really particular

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<v Speaker 1>about when you would launch and how you would launch

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<v Speaker 1>for it to be able to hit all of these

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<v Speaker 1>points properly. I mean, it's an amazing amount of engineering

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<v Speaker 1>that's required and and just math that's required to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you've got the right the right timing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was kind of shady, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>basically until it happened, no one was sure that it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen, right and uh, and it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because the Voyager spacecraft actually used the plants themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>help make sure they got to where they needed to go,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll get into that. It's pretty awesome though. So

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<v Speaker 1>moving down the timeline, they they've launched in nineteen seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost two years later, on March five, Edger one has

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<v Speaker 1>its closest approach to Jupiter and it captures a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of images of Jupiter and Jupiter's moons. Uh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>July nine nine, so same year, that's when Voyager two

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<v Speaker 1>passes closest to Jupiter. Uh. Then we go to the

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<v Speaker 1>next year. On November twelve, Voyager one has its closest

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<v Speaker 1>approach to Saturn, and then it begins its trip out

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<v Speaker 1>of the Solar System, saying so long, suckers, and starts

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<v Speaker 1>heading off into the Well. It would be the sunset,

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<v Speaker 1>except it can't be at the opposite of the sunset, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the sunrise either. That's that would normally be

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite of a sunset, the sun diminishing into a

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<v Speaker 1>tinier ball. I guess not nearly as poetic, but auguste

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Voyager two gets its closest approach to saturny.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course Voyager two is not flung off into

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<v Speaker 1>in our interstellar space right away. Instead, it is then

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<v Speaker 1>heading toward Urinus, which it passes closest to on January

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eight six. So it took five years for Voyager

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<v Speaker 1>two to go from Saturn to Uranus uh, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would take um it would take a few more years

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<v Speaker 1>before it would like five well three more years, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>three more years before it would get close to Neptune.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that point, seven, Voyager two

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<v Speaker 1>observes the supernova nineteen eight Voyager returns the first color

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<v Speaker 1>images of Neptune, so that Voyager two that is so

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting closer to Neptune's still not the closest it

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<v Speaker 1>will be, but that's when we first started getting color

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<v Speaker 1>images of Neptune back from Voyager, and on August nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Voyager two as its closest approach to Neptune. And that

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<v Speaker 1>concludes the primary mission of the of both Voyager spacecraft.

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<v Speaker 1>That primary mission being the exploration of those outer planets.

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<v Speaker 1>So the cost of the missions from nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 1>to the time when they finished their mission their primary

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<v Speaker 1>mission was eight hundred sixty five million dollars. Now, NASA

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<v Speaker 1>points out that if you break this down by the

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<v Speaker 1>population of the United States and year over year that's

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<v Speaker 1>about eight cents per person per year. So it's shappy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially saying like, look, really, in the grand scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a lot of money. Then the grand

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<v Speaker 1>scheme of things, this is just a tiny investment. So

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<v Speaker 1>look at these Saturn Yeah. Uh, keep keep calm and

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<v Speaker 1>keep exploring, is what they said. I hate that name anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So the that that million dollars included everything. It included

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<v Speaker 1>the expense of the launch vehicles, the radioactive power source,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get to talk about in a little bit. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and and just the maintaining of the missions. By nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Voyager one was heading toward interstellar space. And on Valentine's

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<v Speaker 1>Day in nineteen nine, we get the final images from Voyager,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a portrait of the cell system. Happy Valentine's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>I gave you the Solar system. Sweet. Three days later

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<v Speaker 1>February I'm sorry, three days in eight years later on

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<v Speaker 1>fas I should read the year before I read the day,

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<v Speaker 1>February sevent have all my notes in front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, you know, my typing and viewing skills are

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<v Speaker 1>apparently there's something to be desired. February seventeenth, the Voyager

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<v Speaker 1>one passes the Pioneer ten, which had obviously been launched previously,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that makes the Voyager one the most distant

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<v Speaker 1>human made object in space. It is still to this

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<v Speaker 1>day the most distant human made object in space. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually most distant stir than it was because it keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going that well, I figured it might as well measure

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<v Speaker 1>up to my reading and comprehension skills. De Sceumber fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand four. Voyager one crosses the termination shock combination shock.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is pretty cool. Guy into the Heliu sheath. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's here's some things that you need to know

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<v Speaker 1>about our wacky little solar system. Here, you might ask,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the edge of the Solar System? Is it Pluto? No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Pluto. Well, I mean again, it all depends

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<v Speaker 1>on how you're defining the edge of the Solar System.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way NASA defines it, Nope, not Pluto, you

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<v Speaker 1>might especially since it's not it's still on a planet,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, that's not it's a dwarf planet. There's that,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind, there's yeah, it's you know, it's Pluto is

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<v Speaker 1>right there with happy, sneezy, sleepy Adobe doc bashful uh

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<v Speaker 1>so termination shock. That's that's the point where the solar

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<v Speaker 1>wind particles start to slow down. They were traveling essentially

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<v Speaker 1>at kind of the speed of sound would be, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they're traveling really fast. They start slowing down because you

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<v Speaker 1>can think of the solar wind as this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>force that pushes outward from the Sun. All right, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>think of the interstellar space kind of having its own pressure. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like air pressure. It's pushing in on

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<v Speaker 1>the solar syde of magnetic fields instead of air pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>So there exactly, they're not air particles. It's all we're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>There are particles out in space, but that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>different thing anyway. So the solar wind is pressing against

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<v Speaker 1>these these other pressures. So once you get to the

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<v Speaker 1>point where the solar wind is slowing down, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>termination shock. Right, there's kind of a boundary with a

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<v Speaker 1>with a shock wave there and also still not the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of the Solar system. Also, you also have the heliosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is where we still have we still have

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of the solar wind within the heliosphere. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>have the helio pause, which is the very boundary of

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<v Speaker 1>where the solar wind is and that still is not

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the Solar System, not according to NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>According to NASA, really we need to think of the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of the Solar System as being an area where

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun's gravitational poll has no greater effect on you

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<v Speaker 1>than any other particular celestial body out there. So, in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, you aren't being pulled towards the Solar System

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<v Speaker 1>at that point anymore than you're being pulled towards some

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<v Speaker 1>other point, right, Yeah, so that that area is ill

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<v Speaker 1>defined by the very nature of gravity. But um, that

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<v Speaker 1>would take us a very long time to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk about that when we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>science section. So anyway, termination shock has all these fluctuating

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic fields due to the change and the speed of

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<v Speaker 1>the Solar wind, and that's kind of why it's called

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<v Speaker 1>what it's called. And Voyager one, like I said, crossed

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<v Speaker 1>it on December two thousand four and begins to encounter

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<v Speaker 1>the interstellar medium. That doesn't mean that it's in interstellar

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<v Speaker 1>space yet, but starting to encounter the particles that would

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<v Speaker 1>be an interstellar space. September five, two thousand seven, three

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<v Speaker 1>years later, that's when Voyager two catches up and crosses

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<v Speaker 1>the termination shock at a totally different point. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>these two spacecraft are in two totally different sections of

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<v Speaker 1>no nowhere near each other anymore, not at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>in in July and two thousand twelve, Voyager one enters

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<v Speaker 1>a new region of space which is still inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Solar System. It's another region of the helio heliosphere helio

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<v Speaker 1>sheaf called a magnetic highway YEP. And the directions of

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<v Speaker 1>the particles that it's encountering are beginning to change, which

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that the spacecraft is at the very edge of

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<v Speaker 1>the heliosphere. And UM engineers didn't expect that the data

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<v Speaker 1>that they got back. They thought that it would have

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<v Speaker 1>passed beyond this point earlier, which just tells us that

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<v Speaker 1>our Solar system is actually larger. We thought that the

0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Sun is more powerful than we previously expected. It never

0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.520
<v Speaker 1>underestimate the power of the Sun. It can turn me

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<v Speaker 1>read in a matter of minutes, very susceptible to that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. So yeah, that's we've already talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how they have They left at different times in their

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<v Speaker 1>pathways meant that they are traveling in different directions and

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<v Speaker 1>different at different speeds. Uh, and they visited different you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Voyager two visited two more planets than Voyager

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<v Speaker 1>one did. We talked about how the planets helped move

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<v Speaker 1>the spacecraft and direct the spacecraft. So, if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have seen science fiction films like Star Trek for the

0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Voyage Home, where they sling shot around the Sun, they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually using the Sun's gravity to kind of accelerate a

0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.559
<v Speaker 1>ship to the point where it can travel back in time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand that. By the way, if you've got

0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.520
<v Speaker 1>warp speed, you technically anyway, that's another episode. We already

0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.200
<v Speaker 1>did that episode, Yes we did. But anyway, they use

0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it to slingshot around the Sun, which magically lets them

0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.600
<v Speaker 1>travel back in time. There's some truth to that in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that we have used that same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>principle with designing the voyage or spacecraft. Right. What we

0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.680
<v Speaker 1>what we kind of realized is that if you okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're moving towards the planet, you're a probe okay,

0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh, as you move towards the planet, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start accelerating as the planet's gravitational pull starts pulling

0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you in. Right, if you only kind of graze by it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then hypothetically you'll decelerate on the way out because you're

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<v Speaker 1>losing energy to that gravitational pull. Right. And by the way,

0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.960
<v Speaker 1>because of the concert vation of energy, technically the planet's

0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:08.640
<v Speaker 1>orbit actually slows sure infanticimally, Yeah, it's uh see, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got wait wait, wait, I have it written down. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I've got it written down. It's something like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one foot in a trillion years. Well, but hey, that

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<v Speaker 1>is an impact you are, you are making a difference,

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<v Speaker 1>But that Jupiter is going to be a little late

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<v Speaker 1>to its to its appointment in one trillion years. Right. However,

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<v Speaker 1>because planets are moving in their orbits, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>going on the same trajectory as a planet's orbit, you

0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.360
<v Speaker 1>can pick up that orbital speed as you slingshot around

0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the planet. Ye, And so that that has allowed the

0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Voyager spacecraft to get propulsion from one planet to the

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<v Speaker 1>next without having to have massive thrusters on board. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>when we get to the actual description of the spacecraft,

0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll find out that their thrusters are not incredibly powerful

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but they were able to use the power

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<v Speaker 1>of gravity to direct and propel themselves to as large

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<v Speaker 1>as as Jupiter. You know, it's moving through space at

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<v Speaker 1>something like thirty thousand miles per hour forty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>kilometers and uh yeah, so so and and that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a completely free energy boost of about that much speed.

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<v Speaker 1>According to NASA, because of the use of planetary gravity,

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<v Speaker 1>Voyager too ended up having a fuel economy of about

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen thousand kilometers per leader or thirty thousand miles per gallon.

0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.600
<v Speaker 1>That's efficient. That beats That beats my car. That's highway miles,

0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.160
<v Speaker 1>city miles. They did not give me, so I don't

0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it would do in the city. Uh. There,

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<v Speaker 1>the Voyager two's flight path got a look, like we said,

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<v Speaker 1>at all four of the giant plants, um and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a couple of billion miles further inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Solar System than the Voyager one, So the Voyager one

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<v Speaker 1>got a kind of a head start into interstellar space. Um. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is more than eleven billion or seventeen point

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<v Speaker 1>seven eleven billion miles or seventeen point seven billion anometers

0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.680
<v Speaker 1>away from the Sun at this point, more than eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>as of as of today. There's there's there's a tracker

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.680
<v Speaker 1>on on NASA nice where you can check all this out.

0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.600
<v Speaker 1>So uh and and uh. At that distance, it takes

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<v Speaker 1>hours for a for data to go from the spacecraft

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<v Speaker 1>to be picked up here on Earth. About seventeen hours. Wow. Yeah,

0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.600
<v Speaker 1>so that's a long time. The way that let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me find my note on it that it's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting the way that they receive those radio signals because

0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.040
<v Speaker 1>they're they're pretty far away, they're getting increasingly difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>detect all the times. They have a whole series of

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.560
<v Speaker 1>two and thirty ft radio dishes right specifically to pull

0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Voyager data. These are the deep space antenna that they

0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.399
<v Speaker 1>have to pick up this information. Um and uh. And

0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.720
<v Speaker 1>they actually upgraded those over the course of the life

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<v Speaker 1>of the Voyager program. When they first started, they were

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<v Speaker 1>significantly smaller and they didn't have to be as big

0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:02.280
<v Speaker 1>because the Voyager spacecraft were relative leak closer to the Earth. Uh.

0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.280
<v Speaker 1>And now now we've got to a point where we

0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.600
<v Speaker 1>keep upgrading the antenna so that we can continue to

0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.640
<v Speaker 1>pick up these increasingly weak signals. So it's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>According to NASA, the missions from Earth to Neptune required

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<v Speaker 1>the equivalent of eleven thousand work years of human work

0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.239
<v Speaker 1>eleven thousand work years, which they said there's only a

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<v Speaker 1>third of what it took to build the Great Pyramid.

0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.880
<v Speaker 1>So well, hey, so you know we're slacking, you know, really,

0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.879
<v Speaker 1>they're just saying, look how much more efficient we are.

0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 1>They were piling up rocks, we were sending spacecraft into space.

0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Um and uh and again we've learned that the Solar

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<v Speaker 1>System is actually larger than what we have previously anticipated.

0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.280
<v Speaker 1>And um so, by the time the Voyager two flew

0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:50.080
<v Speaker 1>by Neptune, the two spacecraft together had transmitted about five

0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.040
<v Speaker 1>trillion bits of scientific data back at Earth and it

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.880
<v Speaker 1>was someone's job to look at all that. But yeah,

0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the deep space tracking antennas are the ones we were

0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:00.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about earlier that have been up aid several times,

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and that that kind of a that's the brief overview

0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of the mission. And next we're going to take a

0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.919
<v Speaker 1>look at the spacecraft itself and also some kind of

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>cool records that are above the two spacecraft. But before

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>we do that, let's take a quick pause to thank

0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.800
<v Speaker 1>our sponsored Okay, let's talk about the actual spacecraft for

0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a minute. We know what they were supposed to do

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and what they have done. Um So, Uh. And one

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.199
<v Speaker 1>thing I did not mention, I guess is that the

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<v Speaker 1>whole inner interstellar travel stuff that's totally planned as well,

0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.959
<v Speaker 1>in fact, has been added on as a secondary mission.

0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 1>The primary mission was the outer planets. Secondary is what's

0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.239
<v Speaker 1>up with this interstellar stuff? We don't know anything about. Well,

0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.160
<v Speaker 1>they realize that their power sources would work until about

0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and so figured well, hey, let's just kind of roll

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 1>with it. Yeah. Yeah, So that's five. That's about when

0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we expect the power resources to be to the point

0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>where they can no longer power the transmitter to send

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>us back that uh, And we'll talk about that. That's

0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.120
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that that's interesting about this spacecraft.

0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.160
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of interesting things. So both of them, uh,

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.880
<v Speaker 1>because because they're identical, Yes, they are identical. So each

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 1>one of them weighs just under a ton, and now

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.000
<v Speaker 1>when they were on top of the the launch vehicle,

0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they weighed a lot more than that. But the spacecraft

0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 1>themselves are just under a ton each unearthed obviously its weight,

0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.440
<v Speaker 1>it's all relative to where you are. Uh. And they

0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 1>are each made up of about sixty five foulsand individual parts.

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<v Speaker 1>But these parts are often made up of tinier components.

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<v Speaker 1>So they have a term they use which is equivalent parts.

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And equivalent parts means like if you were to look at,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if I were to say my computer is

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<v Speaker 1>part uh is one part of the equipment that I use,

0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.919
<v Speaker 1>someone else could point out, well, that computer has multiple

0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 1>chips in it, and those chips have transistors, and so

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.720
<v Speaker 1>really that one part is a representation of lots and

0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of parts. So NASA was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to know how many equivalent parts there are,

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<v Speaker 1>there about five million of them. Compare that to your

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:12.320
<v Speaker 1>old standard definition color television there'd be about two thousand,

0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:16.639
<v Speaker 1>five D equivalent parts. So lots more than a color TV,

0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.680
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of what you want when you're space. Yeah,

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you need a little bit more than than your average

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.119
<v Speaker 1>standard definition color television, I would hope. So, yeah, also

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:32.240
<v Speaker 1>larger than your standard yes, well, unless you're a crazy

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.120
<v Speaker 1>rich person. The main body is a is a ten

0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.679
<v Speaker 1>sided box that's about six ft or one point eight

0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>meters across, and that's where the fuel tank, the and

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and some of the electronic instruments. And we'll talk about

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.679
<v Speaker 1>those instruments. There are a lot of them. Yeah, they're uh,

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>they were. They both have areas that are hardened against

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 1>radiation and shielded. And the reason for that is obviously

0:21:57.600 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that when you go into space, you are going to

0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>encou ter things that you would not encounter here on

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 1>the surface of the planet. And the reason for that

0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:11.639
<v Speaker 1>is that the Earth atmosphere and magnetos sphere mag magnetosphere

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.400
<v Speaker 1>sphere still makes me think that we're watching x men.

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I would say magnetosphere, you would butt sphere.

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 1>It is the sphere in which magneto travels, and it's

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:29.720
<v Speaker 1>also a magnetic field that surrounds the Earth, penetrates and

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.200
<v Speaker 1>binds us together like the force. Now, what it does

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 1>is it actually repels certain types of waves and particles,

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 1>which allows us to remain. Yeah, we do. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>being bombarded by cosmic radiation or gamma rays or things

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>like that, because that would be a much worse sunburned

0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>than that other saurn than we were talking. The combination

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of the of our atmosphere and the magnetosphere or magnetosphere

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.400
<v Speaker 1>protects us and so the thing is that when you're

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>out in space, you don't have the benefit of that protection.

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's why both of them have these these shielding

0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:05.479
<v Speaker 1>areas and casings that are hardened against radiation to protect

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 1>them if they were to encounter any of these waves

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 1>or particles. Clearly very important, interesting little side fact. So

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Earth has a magnetosphere, Mars doesn't, so if we were

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to make a colony on Mars we would not have

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<v Speaker 1>that protection that we would we need to compensate for

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:25.159
<v Speaker 1>it in some way, right, So you wouldn't want to

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>go on any long strolls on the Martian soil without

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 1>some serious protection. So that's all of those all of

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 1>those fashionable space bikinis that were that were really popular

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>back in the nineties would not probably be good. The

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting thing I heard was I was, I was listening,

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'll go ahead. It was a Skeptics Guide to

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>the Universe. A great podcast. Has no affiliation with us,

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 1>but they are fantastic, very fun, interesting educational podcasts. They

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>had a recent episode where um, they had an astronomer

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:57.479
<v Speaker 1>on talking about things like Mars, and they were even

0:23:57.480 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about all right, let's let's look into a science

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>fiction future where we can terraform Mars, so we're able

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to transform Mars so that the actual surfaces habitable and

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>even then because of the lack of the magnetosphere, you

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>would still be prone to things like cosmic radiation, gamma radiation,

0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 1>you would you would still be vulnerable with that, so

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you would not be able to terraform it for any

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>extended length of time. Eventually that stuff would kill the

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.959
<v Speaker 1>life on that planet. Right, because things like gamma radiation,

0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>for example, aren't as cool is for example to enage

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>meeting ninch turtles make it sound or most mostly you

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>just die. Yeah, yeah, it's not. It's not attractive. In fact,

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>uh NASA said that because of the distance from the

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the the Voyager spacecraft passed close enough to Jupiter that

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.240
<v Speaker 1>it received more than a thousand times the radiation that

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 1>would be a lethal level of radiation for human being. Yeah,

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>for a human person. Yes, um, So, moving on to

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>more things that are on board this these spacecraft. It

0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>has a it has a twelve foot or a three

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>point seven me are high gain antenna which looks like

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a satellite dish. Yeah, this is what allows it to

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.719
<v Speaker 1>transmit and receive data to and from Earth and no

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 1>matter where it goes, the the antenna is programmed to

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>always point towards Earth. Yes, that's it's actually got a

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>gyroscopic UH system so that no matter how it's oriented,

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it can it can readjust its attitude so that the

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>UH the antenna is pointing towards us, so we can

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>have the best chants possible to pick up those radio transmissions.

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 1>UM it has a lot of different instruments aboard, including

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>besides the high gain antenna, it's got a low energy

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>charged particle instrument and ultra violet spectrometer which currently only

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the voyager one is using to collect data. Has both

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 1>narrow and wide angle imaging instruments also known as cameras.

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>It's got a fancy, fancy eight hundred eight hundred cameras

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 1>because this has launched in the nineteen seventies and that

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>seemed pretty cool at the time. UH as a cosmic

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>ray instruments so it can detect and measure cosmic rays,

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a photopolarimeter, which I have no idea what it does.

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I was. I ran into it and I thought that's

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.359
<v Speaker 1>really cool, and I never actually looked more into it

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>because I was lucky that I could say it. There's

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>an infrared interfometer spectrometer UH, and optical calibration targeting system,

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a planetary radio astronomy and plasma wave antenna. Each spacecraft

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>have its two of those UM and also known as

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the Planetary Radio Astronomy Instrument or p r A has

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the plasma instrument. Voyager ones plasma instrument is non functional,

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>but all other instruments are in working order, and Voyager

0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>two is still collecting data through its plasma instruments. It's

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>got UH. It also gets its power from three radioisotope

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>thermoelectric generators and currently it gets about three and fifteen

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:57.199
<v Speaker 1>lots of power. Now, the spacecraft are designed so that

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>all of their systems can operate at about four hundreds

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of power, so it's able to UH. It's still getting power,

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.679
<v Speaker 1>but it's not enough power to operate everything, and in

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>fact they designed the Voyager spacecraft with this in mind,

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the idea being that as the power as the power

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>supply begins to decrease, it begins to shut down unnecessary instruments.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>So originally there were eleven different UM projects that were

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>involved in gathering data from the Voyager systems and processing

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.400
<v Speaker 1>that data here on Earth. There were eleven of them. Currently,

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 1>only five of them are still in operation because the

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>other systems have been progressively shut down to make sure

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>that the Voyager spacecraft can still send us information. And

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>like you said, by five or so, that's when we

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>expect the power to have run down enough where we're

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to get any more information

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 1>from them, because it's just not gonna have the power

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>necessary to broadcast right right, Well, because the way that

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>this this engine of sorts works is that pellets of

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>plutonium dioxide release through their own natural decay process, and

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 1>so once they have finished decaying, that's it. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that's true. And then I forgot also some magnet magnetometer boom,

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>which is designed to to measure magnetic fields. So that

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>was one of those things we didn't really know a

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>lot about the magnetic fields of the old planets before

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>we sent these these spacecraft up. That's one of the

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>really huge sources of information that it is it has

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 1>sent us. And uh so, then it has a flight

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>data subsystem which handles all the information, and it has

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 1>an eight track digital tape recorder, So you've got an

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>eight track up there. It's uh so, the FDS configures controls,

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>collects data from the various instruments, and the tape recorder

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>handles the data from the plasma wave subsystem because that's

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the one that gets the highest density of data and

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the shortest amount of time. So the data tape recorder

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>was the cutting edge technology to handle that that information.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And according to NASA, the tape in the digital record

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>or won't wear out until the tape has moved back

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and forth through a distance that is equivalent to the

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 1>width of the United States. Uh. That is not terribly

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>um precise, because the United States is not a perfect rectangle,

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>but in general, I would say that's probably about three

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand miles, which is around four thousand, eight hundred kilometers.

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I assume what they mean is that it's it's doing fine. Yeah,

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.280
<v Speaker 1>So what they're saying is that that tape is capable

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>of traveling that collective amount of distance without breaking. So

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you've got to remember the tape itself is not that long.

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>It's just saying that they would you know, by the

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>time you would go through all this tape and is

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>worn out, you could have gone all the way across

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the United States using that same distance of tape being

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>played through. Just kind of that's kind of impressive. There

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>has a command computer subsystem which provides sequencing and control functions,

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>which includes fault detection, corrective routines, antenna pointing data, and

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>spacecraft sequencing data. The fault detection involves seven top level

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>fault protection routines and each one is able to detect

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and correct for several possible failures. Basically, it just means

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that there's the computer has multiple modules and they compare

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>data back and forth between each other and and it

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>will decide if if one module is differing from the others,

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that that one's faulty and to cut it out of

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the system. Yes, And it also means that both of

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the spacecraft are capable of shutting down systems if it

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>needs to automatically autonomously, because which is so important, because

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>we can't broadcast to these things. They broadcast to us,

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>but they don't have receivers. Their antenna could receive information. Yeah,

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>but it means that it would take seventeen hours for

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the information to get to us, in seventeen hours for

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the information to get back and by then whatever the

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>problem was is probably not the biggest issue at that point, right, So, yeah,

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that it's important to have something to connect autonomously if

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>if you know, if the communication is a barrier the

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing with the Curiosity Rover when it

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>was landing on the surface of Mars. You know, a

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of that landing. In fact, all of the landing

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>was auto a miss because there was no time for

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>us to send any adjustments to the system. It's like

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you're on your own. Yeah, by the time we would

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:08.719
<v Speaker 1>be able to send an adjustment, it would have already

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>either crashed or landed safely. So you had to design

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a spacecraft that could do this or else it just

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work. Pretty impressive in the nineteen seventies for for

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the amount of computing power that was going. Oh yeah, definitely.

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And it also had an attitude in art or still has.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm using the past tense. It's

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>still out there. The Attitude and Articulation Control Subsystem, which

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>is also known the A A c S. It's in

0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>charge of maintain the spacecraft orientation and positions the scan platform.

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>So this is what we're talking about. The system that's

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that's in charge of making sure that that antenna has

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>pointed back at Earth and also that the scan platform,

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>which is really you know, the instrumentation panel's pointing in

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the right direction to get the data that needs and

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 1>uh it's yeah, it's got a three access stabilization system

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and use the celestial or gyro referenced attitude control to

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>make the high gain antenna point back to Earth. Now,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we talked about the fact that there is an interesting

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>gold plated copper disc on board each of the two

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Voyager spacecraft, right, the Golden records they're referred to. Yes,

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>so this is uh, this was a really cool idea.

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You know who, of course, was the chairman for this,

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Carl Sagan. Yes, he he had billions and billions of suggestions,

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>but not all of them can make it onto the

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>disc obviously, right. And these are these are these these

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>gold plated copper discs engraved like vinyl records. Yeah. Yeah,

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>And kids ask your parents, no, dear, no, no, no.

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Kids are hipsters these days. They know they know things

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>about vinyl. It's cool. Kids, tell your older siblings because

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they missed down the whole hipster generation. Um. Alright, so,

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, you're talking about a disk that has physical

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>grooves that are in it that can be read using

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a stylist and cartridge, which which were included. They included

0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the cartridge and stylists. They did not include a turntable,

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>so aliens aliens out, they have to build it. But

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they did leave instructions written in a symbolic language to say,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>here's how you would construct something that would be able

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to play these things. They were there twelve inches in diameter,

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and they are designed to be played back at sixteen

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and two thirds revolutions per minute, so actually fairly slowly.

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we think about the uh, the

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 1>forty five or thirty three revolutions per minute for for

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>your average albums, and this is a sixteen and two thirds.

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>So on these Golden Records are lots and lots of stuff. Actually,

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>um it's including things like greetings from in fifty five

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>different languages, including some that aren't being used anymore, and

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>they have not been used in a very long time,

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>like a Kadian, which is a Sumerian language which was

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:47.719
<v Speaker 1>last used around four thousand BC, a selection of nature

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds yep, yep. So if you ever wanted to hear

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>what frogs burping sounded like, and you were from from

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>some distant planet, here's an opportunity to a lot of

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>So you're for Ford Prefect and you're on your way

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to Earth. This is a good way to do some

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>homework before you get there. All right, a lot of

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>traditional music, some some Native American chance and Scottish bagpipes.

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I've got to talk about some of the music that's

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>on here for African ritual music. There's a bunch of

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 1>classical music, all right. So I wrote down some of

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>my favorites. This is, this is. Obviously, there are lots

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and lots of musical tracks that are on the records.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>These are just the ones that I personally wrote down

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>because I I they resonate with me. It's not to

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>say that the other ones are not as good, right,

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I may not be familiar with some of them. But

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>there's the Brandenburg Concerto number two in f Actually it's

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>just the first movement. That's by a guy named Batch.

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Johann Batch wrote that, Um, if you've heard he's just

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>some dude. Really yeah yeah, obviously box Brandenburg Concerto number

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:51.799
<v Speaker 1>two and f uh. Then there's a Melancholy Blues which

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.720
<v Speaker 1>was performed by Louis Armstrong. Stravinsky's The Right of Spring

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>was included. Bok actually was pretty well represented on this record.

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 1>He also had the well tempered Clavia on there. There

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>was the first moment of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, you know,

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the da da uh. There was a Navajo tribes chant

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and then of course the most important I think musical

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>work that was included out of all the pieces that

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>were on there. As as we all know from the

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 1>documentary Back to the Future, It's saved Marty McFly, It'll

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>save the human race. We're talking about Chuck Berry's Johnny

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>be Good. Yeah. Um, there's actually a book all about

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the process that they used to select which sounds went

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>on the Golden Record, right, Yeah. It finally came out

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>with a CD companion at some point. I'm sure it's

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>on digital. The book itself is out of print, but

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you can sometimes find copies. It is called Murmurs from Earth,

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to learn more about how they

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>came about choosing which sounds go in there. Um, that's

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a really well done piece. It's it's something

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that I've I've heard nothing but good things about it.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I personally have not had chance to read it. By

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the time I learned about it was running on a print,

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>so it's kind But there's also a bunch of images

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>on the desks, including a star map clearly showing the

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>location of Earth. Here's what humans taste like maps of

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Earth images. I'm just I'm just ignoring that entirely. There

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>are people who have said, what a huge mistake it

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>was to essentially include directions directly, and I think, well,

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty ridiculous because the odds of anyone

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>in the odds of anyone finding the voyager space as

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 1>big as it turns out, really big, no, no, no,

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>bigger than that. Not. You might think it's a long

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>walk to the chemist style on the corner, but that's

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>just nuts compared to space. But it's going to be

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of years before either the voyager craft

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>encounter anything near another star. Yeah, exactly. So really, by

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the time, I'm betting we will have either kill ourselves

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>off or hit the Singularity. And and plus on top

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>of that, you know, it would all depend on from

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>one direction the other creatures were approaching Earth, because I mean,

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>there's there are a lot of different vectors you could take,

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and only a couple of them would intersect with the

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 1>pathway of either voyagers, way more vectors than most science

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>fiction movies are willing to acknowledge. There's more than just

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>ship spaceship battles than just the single plane. Yeah. Uh.

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So there was also an hour long recording of the

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>brain waves of a woman named Anne Druian, who would

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>become Carl Sagan's wife. Yep, she's an author. She concentrates

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>mainly on cosmology and science, and she she signed up

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>for this. She volunteered to have her brain waves reported. Yes,

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>she and Carl Sagan had talked about it, and she

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a really interesting idea, and so she

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>went in for the process where her brain was waves

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and her heartbeat were read and then transferred into data

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>analog data, we have to say, because it's an analog

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>disc and um. She says that what she did was

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>she she thought about big historic whole moments that were

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 1>very important in the development of human history. And then

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.959
<v Speaker 1>she spent some time thinking about the current situation on Earth,

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>how what that's like the thing and and not sugarcoating it,

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>things like violence between people and the Yeah. So she

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>really spent some time thinking about things that she felt

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>needed to be addressed. And then she said that she

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>took the liberty towards the end of the session to

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>take a little bit of time and think about what

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like to fall in love, which I think is amazing.

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>It's the most wonderful suite. Yea. Yeah, so now we

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>those aliens can't tell us they don't know how to

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>love because she thought about it for for a while,

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.919
<v Speaker 1>darn it. Um. So, yeah, those radio signals do take

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a long time to get to us. So but uh,

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and and the record that's on there, if you want

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>to hear some of the stuff, Uh, there are there

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:52.919
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of different sites out there that that

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>keep all the things that aren't on there. It tells

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you what's there, and most of that's pretty easy to

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>get access to and listen to. You. I'll try it.

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll try to find one and link it up on social. Yeah,

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if we can find something. And you know,

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll see if I can make it a Spotify

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>playlist or something. Get a ukulele and play Johnny be

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Good on the ukulele. That's uh, that would probably be

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Johnny Please Stop. That would be the name of that song. Alright.

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 1>So um, anyway, that's that's kind of the the wrap

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>up of the spacecraft and the stuff that was aborted.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>But we still haven't talked about the actual science that's returned.

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>So we're going to do that in just a moment,

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>but before we do, let's take a quick moment to

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>thank our other sponsor. Okay, so we've talked about what

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.399
<v Speaker 1>the mission was, we talked about the spacecraft. Let's talk

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>about what the spacecraft found. So, out of the eleven

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 1>investigation teams that were originally involved in the Voyager mission,

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier, only five of them are still supported.

0:39:45.719 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>And those five are magnetic field investigation, low energy charged

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>particle investigation, cosmic ray investigation, plasma investigation which is only

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>active on the Voyager two because the Voyager ones doesn't

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>work anywhere, and plasma wave investigation. So plasma investigation plasma

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.439
<v Speaker 1>wave investigation two different things, right, and these are clearly

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the more important ones because there's not all that much too.

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:11.959
<v Speaker 1>For example, take pictures of Yeah, once you're done taking

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the photo of the the solar system from way the

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>heck out there, there's really no purpose to keep power

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 1>going to that. So yeah, that's been shut down. Um,

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and uh. The five instruments that support these five missions

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:32.360
<v Speaker 1>are the Magnetic field Instrument or MG, the low energy

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>charged particle instrument, the L E C P Cosmic re

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>instrument that's the CRS, the plasma instrument that's p l S,

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and the plasma Wave instrument that's p WS. And really

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>at this point, uh, now that we've finished taking photos

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and measurements of all the planets, which that was the

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>main science before was really getting good images and getting

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>some good scientific data about the actual plants and their moons.

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 1>It was the origin of the program. Yeah, before they

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of realized, oh hey, we and do more stuff

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>out there. Yeah, so now now we're we've switched it

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>over to interstellar. But some of the stuff they found

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>because of these and then later on have have expounded

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>upon by sending out other orbiters like Cassini for example.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>But some of the stuff they discovered were like they

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>took a closer look at Europa, which is one of

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Jupiter's moons, and saw that it had a water ice surface.

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And originally they thought that maybe Europa could have an

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>ocean underneath that ice, but some scientists now say they

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>think that it's probably more like a slush or maybe

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>even solid solid ice. But that was a possibility. Um.

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>They Voyager spacecraft also observed Pale, which is the largest

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.439
<v Speaker 1>of the volcanoes on Io, which is the another moon

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 1>of Jupiter, and they observed that Pale was erupting sulfur

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and sulfur dioxide and h These eruptions were going up

0:41:56.880 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>to heights that are equivalent to about thirty times the

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>elevation of Mount Everest, the tallest mountain on Earth. Multiply

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>that by well, tallest mountain on the surface, like not underwater,

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>because you could look at underwater and there's but above water,

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 1>it's the tallest mountain on Earth. Multiply that by thirty times.

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 1>That's how high up these eruptions were going. Not necessarily

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:23.439
<v Speaker 1>a good vacation spot. Now. The scientists also point out

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that Io's gravity is about six times weaker than that

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of Earth's, so it's closer to what our moon has.

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But the fallout zone for the the the sulfur dioxide

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that was being thrust into the atmosphere of Io was

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 1>about the size of France. Yeah, so that was when

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I read that, I was like, wow, that is a huge,

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>huge volcano. Um. Now, the we also had some information

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>about Saturn's largest moon, which is called titan Uh. It

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>discovered the oceans of ethane and methane aboard a board

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>on titan, not a board titan. It is technically a

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 1>space that's not nothing. It's a satellite satellite, but it's

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a natural satellite, not a man made one. And it

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>has also discovered that has that tightened. The the largest

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>moon of Saturn has a dense atmosphere in lots of hydrocarbons,

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:22.399
<v Speaker 1>and maybe it could possibly at some point in the past,

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>have supported life. The methane is a possible indication that

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>living things once lived there. Now that does not necessary

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>the hydrocarbons as well, but that does not necessarily mean

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that life ever was untitened, but it's a possibility. Voyager

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>also took images of Uranus rings, which are very difficult

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>to see. They're very faint, right, um and uh, But

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 1>they did that. They also observed Saturn's rings and saw

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that they were made of about ten thousand strands of

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>ice particles and car sized icebergs, and that if you

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:58.879
<v Speaker 1>look at them proportionally, their thickness is much much much

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>much much smaller than the width of the ring. So

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 1>if you think of it as like a one of

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>those things called they're not the frisbees, but you know

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the rings. Yeah, they're they're hollow in the middle. Right,

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 1>there's there, so it's just a it's a disc that

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a center to it. Um. The width of

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the band is much wider than the thickness of the band,

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>is what they discovered. So that was kind of interesting. Uh,

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>now we're talking more about the interstellar work. So they're

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>still inside the helio sphere, right, And I did want

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to mention at some point here on March, and we

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this in another podcast that we were recording. Right

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>around March twenty UM, there were there were false reports

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.919
<v Speaker 1>that that it had left the healer sphere and entered

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>interstellar space and those were those were false reports. Yeah,

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:50.439
<v Speaker 1>NASA came out and said, no, not, we've not seen

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the changes in the magnetic radiation that we are expecting

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>to see. That. They did say that they had seen

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>some changes in particle movement, which at first would have

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>indicated that the spacecraft had moved out of the heliosphere,

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 1>but then they found from the magnetic movement that's not

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 1>the case. So it's it's one of those things where

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>again we keep finding out the Solar System is larger

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:15.120
<v Speaker 1>as we learn more about how it's behaving. So now

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the next step in this, you could think of the

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>interstellar exploration and being in three phases. The first was

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>crossing the termination shock, which both of the spacecraft have

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>already done. The next is the exploration of the Helio sheath,

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>which is happening right now, and then the third is

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>interstellar exploration, which is when the spacecraft have passed beyond

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the Helio pause boundary. Now, the Helio pause boundary, you

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>can think of this as kind of like a bubble

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>around the Sun that completely encompasses the the entire Solar System.

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 1>It's not a perfectly round bubble, so don't think like that,

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.959
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's this whibli babbli area. Uh. And beyond

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>this boundary, there's no solar wind or magnetic field from

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the Sun. However, there's still the gravitational influence of the

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Sun at that point. But particles and waves in this

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>area of space are unaffected by our son and we

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>don't really know a whole lot about them because we

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.879
<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to observe them directly through any kind

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of spacecraft. Right. Yeah, and and this is this is

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 1>a hypothetical Helio pause. Yeah, we have not encountered it yet,

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>so but it's still not technically the edge of the

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Solar system if you, if you ask NASA, the edge

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of the Solar System would be that area where there's

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>no longer that gravitational factor from the Sun, which would

0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>require us to travel about two light years away from

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the Sun. So that will take us about forty thousand

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>years for those spacecraft to get there, which is a

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, set your alarms because it's gonna take a while.

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So in other words, if someone tells you that the

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 1>voyager has passed outside the Solar System, your response should

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:47.720
<v Speaker 1>be wow, which alien warped it away from there? Because

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:50.239
<v Speaker 1>there's no way that it's done that, at least not

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>by the definition that NASA makes. Now, if they're talking

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>about the helio pause, that's a different story. Different, that's

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a different story. And I think they are anticipating that

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>within our lifetimes. Yeah, they said they said they expected

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it to happen within ten to twenty years of passing

0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the termination shock. So now it's just probably probably hopefully

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>fingers crossed before before that plutonia and dioxide runs out

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>right before around that area. So, uh, Lauren, you had

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>an interesting idea. One that an experimental idea that we

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>thought we would try, which is that you sent out

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>a tweet saying, hey, guys, if you have any anything

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting that you want to ask or goofy that you

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>want to ask us about our podcast about the Voyager spacecraft,

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>now's the time to do it. And people did. A

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>couple of people did anyway, So hopefully we'll be able

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to do this in the future and get even more discussion.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>But this was a fun first attempt. So here's some

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>of the questions we received. Ian on Twitter asked a

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of questions that I'm going to tackle one

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 1>at a time. The first was how fast are the

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Voyager spacecraft traveling? Good question, Ian, So, Voyager one is

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>traveling at about three point six astronomical units per year

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>and Voyager two is poking along at three point three

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.759
<v Speaker 1>astronomical units per year. Now that might not tell you

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>very much unless you know how long an astronomical unit is.

0:48:07.520 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a measurement of distance that's based upon the mean

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>distance between Earth and the Sun, and that's equivalent to

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>about a hundred and forty nine million, five hundred seven thousand,

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.919
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred seventy one kilometers or ninety two million, nine

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:23.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred fifty five thousand, hundred seven miles. And because Jonathan

0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.799
<v Speaker 1>loves you, he did the math yep. So let's talk

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 1>about how this sucker breaks down. So remember, Voyager one's

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 1>going at three point six astronomical units per year. That

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:36.439
<v Speaker 1>means it's traveling about five hundred thirty nine million kilometers

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:41.399
<v Speaker 1>per year or three hundred thirty five million miles per year,

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and that breaks down to sixty one thousand, four hundred

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty kilometers per hour or thirty eight thousand, one hundred

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>seventy six miles per hour. Either way, it's going wicked fast.

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Voyager two is three point three astronomical units per year.

0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>That breaks down to four hundred ninety four million kilometers

0:48:58.000 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>per year or fifty six thousand, three under eighteen kilometers

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>per hour, And in miles, it's three d seven million

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>miles per year or thirty five thousand miles per hour.

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Slightly less wicked fast, but still wicked fast, but still

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>faster than than me. For example. His next question. Ian's

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>next question was are they accelerating? No, next question was

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 1>how long will you remain in contact? Well, like we said,

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>we're not really sure. It's all going to depend upon

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the power supply. Uh. And also whether or not our

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>antennae here on Earth can continue to pick up that

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 1>week signal, but we expect around five will be the

0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 1>last we hear of them. Uh. And then Ian and

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>also a listener named Jonathan. Also they both asked that

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 1>we somehow reference a film, Star Trek the motion Picture. Okay,

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>what does Voyager have to do with Star Trek the

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Motion Picture? Well, in a way, Voyager is the bad

0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:53.439
<v Speaker 1>guy in Star Trek the Motion Picture. In another way,

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:55.799
<v Speaker 1>the whole film is the bad guy, because the thing

0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>is slow as heck. I watched it. I watched it,

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.400
<v Speaker 1>not for and to sivation of this podcast. I watched

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 1>it justly. And I have not seen it since I

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 1>was a kid. And I don't think I ever sat

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>through it all the way through when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I sat through it all the way

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<v Speaker 1>there was an adult, I can't. I can't say that

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<v Speaker 1>i've seen it since I was about as laundry. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek two amazing movie, Star Trek the motion Picture

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<v Speaker 1>not so much. But in that story, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sound really familiar, to anyone who watched Star Trek four,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a very similar story. A probe that has

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<v Speaker 1>this weird energy field around it enters our solar system.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually first it's just moving through space, but everything that

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<v Speaker 1>encounters it's starting to deactivate, and everyone's kind of upset

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<v Speaker 1>because that's terrible, and it's head right to Earth. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do? How do we stop this? And

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<v Speaker 1>of course the only person who can stop its Kirk,

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<v Speaker 1>who commandeers this starhip, Starship Enterprise. He is no longer

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<v Speaker 1>the captain of the Enterprise at that point. He's teaching

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<v Speaker 1>a star fleet, but the Enterprise is is docked in

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<v Speaker 1>a space station around Earth, and so he, after a

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<v Speaker 1>very long tour of the ship, of the outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the ship that Scotty takes him on, eventually gets on board.

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<v Speaker 1>And this movie moves slowly, is what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>just they go and investigate this, uh, this probe that's

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<v Speaker 1>called VJER and UH and VJR is this artificially intelligent

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle and actually the vehicle contains a smaller probe like

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle inside of it. Ultimately they discovered that what Vijure

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<v Speaker 1>really is is Voyager six, which doesn't exist yet. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only Voyager one and two. But in this in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie, it was Voyager six that was supposedly launched

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the twentieth century, which I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you notice, we're not in that anymore. Um

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, same thing like I think the Eugenics

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<v Speaker 1>Wars and Star Trek two that are ever mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>con was part of that was supposed to take place,

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<v Speaker 1>So we had a lot of catching up to do. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I want those to happen anytime soon. But

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<v Speaker 1>the the vjure was called Vigor because it could no

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<v Speaker 1>longer uh see the letters that were missing, So all

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<v Speaker 1>the missing letters were gone, so all that was left

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<v Speaker 1>was the v g e er. So it's Vider uh

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. And in the story, what you find out

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<v Speaker 1>is that aliens had encountered the Voyager six probe and

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<v Speaker 1>had enhanced it so that it could learn everything that

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<v Speaker 1>is learnable and then returned the information to Earth. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was trying to do a uh. Originally it was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a benevolent thing, but because vjer had

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<v Speaker 1>gained sentience, it no longer completely understood the parameters of

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<v Speaker 1>its mission, and so it started to go a little

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<v Speaker 1>bonkers um and then of course the some crew members

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<v Speaker 1>aboard the Enterprise end up essentially reasoning with the artificially

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent probe. So Vjer, like I said, is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the bad guy and Star Trek the motion picture. If

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like I spoiled that movie, I didn't. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really I mean, your better skipping it, just bet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say this as someone who loves Star Trek. Okay, don't,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, I just I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>movie was a lot of the movie is played for grandeur,

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<v Speaker 1>and the problem is that we've all gotten used to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing these amazing sort of visuals that are even more

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<v Speaker 1>amazing than what was available back then. So to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have this big reveal moment and you look at

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the picture and you're like, yeah, okay, it happens on

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<v Speaker 1>TV every week. Yeah, So that's that's the problem, alright.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh then we also had a listener who has

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<v Speaker 1>the handle REDNA maybe that's his name, who asked, what

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<v Speaker 1>about future missions with better equipment? Well, we had the

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<v Speaker 1>Casini orbiter, but we also NASA had proposed a couple

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of joint missions with the European Union. Um, but they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really worked out. One of them was the Jupiter

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Europa orbiter, but that was essentially scrapped because of budget problems.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other was the Titan Saturn system mission, which

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<v Speaker 1>was shelved in order for NASA to concentrate on the

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<v Speaker 1>Jupiter Europa orbiter. Yes so, but but originally those were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to launch in twenty Now because of the budget

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<v Speaker 1>cutbacks and everything, and you know the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>just hasn't been the time to develop it, that that

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>launch window is kind of closed at this point. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I know right now, there are no

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<v Speaker 1>definitive deep space or outer planet missions planned. I think

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<v Speaker 1>right now people are really concentrating on Mars, Mars and

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the Moon and Earth orbit. Those are those are I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the things that are I hesitate to stay easier

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe more achievable. Yeah. I have I have heard

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<v Speaker 1>that that that future Moon landings have been scrapped in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of future Mars lands. Yeah. I mean, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and this changes from one administration to another because because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these considerations are not just technological or scientific,

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>they're also political. I mean, the whole space race was political.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that if there had not been that rivalry

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>between the United States muscle, but you know, we we

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<v Speaker 1>can send we can send this rocket not only to

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<v Speaker 1>your face, but all the way to the move. Yeah so,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was that was you know, without that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pressure than it makes it harder for scientists

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<v Speaker 1>to get the money they need to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do the science they do. That's a sad fact of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, is that, you know, money in a way

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 1>does make the world go round. Um So, anyway that

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<v Speaker 1>those are the answers to the questions we received. I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked this idea, So we're going to try and

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<v Speaker 1>incorporate more frequently, so much who played along for yeah so,

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<v Speaker 1>so this will be a bit of a spoiler alert.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys will find out what we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about before we get a chance to talk about and

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<v Speaker 1>you've submitted a question and when we answer it because

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<v Speaker 1>we record so far in advance. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun way to kind of get an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys want to hear about, because I would

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<v Speaker 1>hate to do a full podcast about something and then

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's like, wow, I had some real questions about this,

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<v Speaker 1>well most of the time, not in a negative way. Actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually it's one of those, hey, you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>another podcast on such and such, which I think a

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<v Speaker 1>positive thing. Yeah, all right, So if there's some other

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