WEBVTT - Instant Reaction: Donald Trump Indictment 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:04.160 And we begin with the news on former President Trump 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.560 saying his attorneys have told him that he's been indicted 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.479 indicted over the document's case. At Baxter, I know this 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:13.080 is just breaking now you're in the Bloomberg newsroom in 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:16.880 San Francisco. Do we know anything more at this point? 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:18.480 Well, you know what we're going to get with an 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.319 expert here in just a second. We know that it 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.440 was a post Doug that his attorneys told him he's 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.440 been indicted over the document's case. We know that it 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.000 was moved to Florida. Let's get more now Bloomberg's a 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.120 legal expert at a host of Bloomberg Law. June Grosso 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.559 is with US Life. All right, June, So we know 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.600 that they moved a couple of weeks ago the grand 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.560 jury proceedings down to Florida. What do we know about 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.520 this indictment at this point, Well. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.159 I don't know what the indictment says. The indictment could 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.200 be on several different charges. There could be an obstruction 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.120 charge in there, there could be an espionage a charge 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.040 in there. It could just be mishandling of classified documents. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.920 It's hard to tell at this point what they decided 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.399 to charge him with, so, you know, beyond him saying 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.440 he's indicted, we don't really know much. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.800 Yeah, and he said it now, just yesterday or the 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.080 day before, he had said that nobody had said anything 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.360 to him about it, which may be true. He likes 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.680 to break the news himself, So this this came down. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.240 I don't mean to be cynical there we left, but he. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.000 Does you know, he said that nobody had told him 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:30.800 he was going to get indicted. That doesn't mean no 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:33.440 one told him he was the target of the investigation, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.760 which is what the letter. You know, what the what 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.399 the prosecutors tell you. They tell you the target of 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.520 the investigation, and everybody draws the conclusion that, okay, if 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.759 they're telling us this, that's their requirement, and that means 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.000 that you're going to get indicted. So I think he 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.880 was parsing words perhaps there. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.080 Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, thank you for making that distinction. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.560 I didn't make it clear. Now we've just got another 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.120 headline June up saying he's been summoned to appear in 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.680 Miami court on two. What is a process do you 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:03.400 think from here? 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.440 Well, you know, I think we'll learn more about this indictment. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:12.160 I assume that the Special Counsel or perhaps even the 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.040 Attorney General is going to have a press conference. I mean, 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.320 these indictments are sealed usually, so we find out about 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.400 them when they decide to tell us. In this case, 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.320 Trump decided to tell us so, but normally we'd wait 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.640 for the prosecutors and he'll have to make an appearance 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.080 in court and you know, plead not guilty. Most likely 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.720 it will be probably a very brief appearance, sort of 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.560 like we saw in New York. What's interesting here is 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:43.400 that after having a grand jury in Washington, d C. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:48.280 For so long investigating the classified documents, the Special Council 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.760 decided to open a grand jury investigation in Florida. And 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.639 the thought is that he wanted to be sure that 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.560 there would be you know, the venue would be met, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.520 that this was where. In other words, you have to 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.919 have the case in the place where the alleged crime 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.040 took place. So in this case, any obstruction or any hiding, 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.320 any thing like that would have been done in Florida. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:17.040 And also this means that the Trump team loses a 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.000 ground to try to stop the trial by saying, wait 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.160 a second, this shouldn't be in Washington, D C. This 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.600 should be in Florida. But I think that, you know, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.600 the prosecutors are going to have a harder time in Florida, 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.680 that the jury pool is not going to be as 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.560 sympathetic to the federal government as it might have been 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:37.160 in DC. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.400 Yeah, but that does not stop mister Trump from trying 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.160 to change the venue. But Florida is where he has 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.040 indicated that he would like it. Correct. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.520 I don't know exactly what he said about it, but 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.040 one assumes that he preferred Florida. As I said, it's, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.160 you know, a venue where there would likely be a 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.680 jury pool that's friendlier to him and less likely to 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.760 you know, agree with the federal government on some things 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:09.360 as opposed to you know, DC or New York. So yeah, 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.320 I think that that would be the best, the preferred 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.080 venue for him. And it's just I think it shows 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.880 that the prosecutors want to move this along very quickly. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.479 They want to get this to trial, and they don't 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:20.919 want to be hung up in a lot of pre 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:21.880 trial motions. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.480 Yeah. And so Tuesday you say would be short. Now, 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:29.080 let's go through the as you say, it's sealed it 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.800 and it will will be opened most probably on Tuesday 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:37.839 by the by the court. But the potential charges could 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.640 be number one, that he took classified documents out of 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:47.159 the White House. Number two that he that he obstructed 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:51.200 justice in trying to let the FBI or DJ do 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.719 its job. That those are potential Are they not right? 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.760 And I think, you know, the obstruction of justice charge 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.760 is very serious. And I something that you know, as 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:05.640 we analyze the evidence that they seemed to have, that 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.360 they might have enough to make a case about obstruction 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.400 of justice. I mean, we discovered that they have all 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.919 kinds of evidence. For example, they have a video tape 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:20.320 of someone moving the boxes fro in mar Lago to 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:25.480 a storage room the day before the federal prosecutors were 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.799 scheduled to appear to collect them. There apparently is a tape, 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:34.000 an audio tape of former President Trump bragging to a 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.599 group of people that he had in his hand. No 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.040 one saw it was in his hand, but he had 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:45.599 in his hand some classified material about US intervention with Iraq, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.560 with possible with Iran. And also that he said that 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.240 he knew that he shouldn't have. That's like a critical 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.200 piece of information because he's admitting that he knew what 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.080 was going on. And also something that I think sort 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.919 of when this happened, I thought, well, they have a 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:06.680 case because one of his attorneys has had to go 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:11.320 before the grand jury and testify because the judge ruled 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.640 what's called a crime fraud exception, and that is that 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:19.400 if the judge believes that the defendant in this case, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.359 so the potential defendant in this case is using the 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.440 lawyer as part of the crime, it's not the lawyer's crime, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.960 it's the defendant's crime, then they allow them to pierce 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:34.520 the lawyer client privilege. And that's very rare that it happens, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.520 and very rare that it that it's granted. And in 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.799 this case, Evan Corkran ended up not only testifying before 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.719 the grand jury, but also turning over written notes and 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.679 are written and an audio tape that he had about 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.680 his conversations with Trump. So there seems to be a 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:56.960 lot of evidence beyond just what we know about, you know, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.800 people coming in and testifying as to what Trump's state 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.760 of mine was. So, you know, it would be really 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:06.960 interesting to see whether this indictment sort of walk through 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.960 the evidence that they have a talking indictment rather than 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.480 what happened in New York where we didn't know very 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:14.920 much when we saw the indictment. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:20.040 Yeah, and June I I. And again I'm not trying 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.880 to be cynical here, but it would be very smart 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.880 for mister Trump at this point to not say too much. 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.840 And yet he's on truth social part of his posting 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.600 blitz now is quote that corrupt Biden administration has informed 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.120 my attorneys that I have been indicted seemingly over the 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.600 Box's hoax. So he's not going to calm the heat 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.040 going into this. But could any of what he says 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.640 now be be held against him in the court of. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.560 Law, Well, it depends on what he says. I mean, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.720 he said so much about these documents. He said that 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.400 he could, you know, wave his hand and all the 0:07:55.440 --> 0:08:00.720 documents were declassified, and that just by asking for them. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.040 I mean, he said so many things that really are 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.000 not grounded in fact. But what I think he's trying 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.600 to do here to a certain extent is, you know, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.920 mess with the jury pool, sort of get the jury 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.440 pool in his favor. And that's difficult to do. But 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.160 yet enough you hear enough of this over and over 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.600 and over again, and it starts to affect some people. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.720 So I think in this case. If it's held in Florida, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.600 as we suspect, there's going to have to be a 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:33.880 lot a really strenuous waddear of the jurors, the potential jurors, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.280 to make sure that they've not been painted by any 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.840 of these things. But Trump is also running for public 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.240 office for president, so he also wants to get the 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.360 electorate on his side. So he has a lot of 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:48.280 different reasons for getting out there and making these statements, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.360 even though his attorneys may have advised him and probably 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.680 did advise him not to say anything. I mean, we 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.400 saw what happened with the New York case. Basically ignore them. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.920 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, the pattern is there. June. You are 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.600 absolutely awesome as usual, and I know you're prepping for 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.960 a Bloomberg law and this will be up on top 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.600 and that follows Daybreak Asia here on Bloomberg. June Grosso, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.600 legal expert here, Thank you so much for your time, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:20.240 really appreciate it. Let's get some political impact now from 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.640 Bloomberg's Jenny Shanze, professor of Bloomberg Politics, contributor and author 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:31.559 of American Democracy and Crisis. Okay, Jeannie, The immediate political 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.840 impact will be a bit mixed. But it hasn't seemed 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.600 to affect any of the legal problems his overall stature 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.040 in the polls, does it? 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.040 It has not. I mean, he is still polling nationally 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.880 in the double digits, although that is subject to change. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.680 And you know, I think this week alone, as we've 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:54.880 seen at least three big entries into the race, it 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.839 is a sign that there are Republicans out there who 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.920 feel that this is an individual who may not be 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.960 in this race for the long term or is going 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.320 to be vulnerable. So while he's still leading by double 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.040 digits facing the indictment out of New York, the indictment 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.120 at the federal level is something that really could be 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.560 a game changer. And can I just say the word 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:22.079 here is extraordinary. Never in American history have we seen 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.480 something like this happen to a former president, let alone 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.160 somebody who is the leading candidate for the nomination for 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:33.040 the major party for the next election. So extraordinary by 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.160 any measure, regardless of what happens. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.200 Yeah, history after history after history. Hey, Doug is in 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:40.719 New York. I think, Doug, you'd like to ask a 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:41.319 couple of questions. 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.120 Yeah, Jeanie, So that the move here that Trump is 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.120 playing seems to be that he wants to delegitimize this investigation, 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:52.599 the handling of the classified material. Is that still resonating 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.760 within the base or within the Republican Party. Are people 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.120 beginning to break away now and say, you know, we've 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.520 had enough. There may have been a violation of the 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.280 law here, and you're going to have to own up 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:04.520 to that. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.600 Yeah, I think you know which Hunt has been sort 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.760 of the way in which he has approached any criticism 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.160 and certainly any move towards the legal realm in this 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.880 kind of thing. And he's going to continue to make 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.920 that case as you were just talking about. He's been 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.079 doing that actively on truth social almost in real time. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.079 But I do think we are seeing Republicans in places 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.000 like Iowa, New Hampshire where the base is really paying 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.880 attention to the upcoming election and they are looking they 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.920 are open to an alternative to Trump. I don't think 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.000 he will lose that thirty percent regardless of what happens 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.480 who have been with him this whole time. But I 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.920 do think we see like fifty sixty percent potentially of 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.040 the base of the Republican Party who says we would 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.800 be open to an alternative to Trump. That doesn't mean 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.160 an anti Trump candidate, but an alternative to Trump. And 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.439 that's why I think we see now about ten to 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.640 twelve can that it's in this race. So there is 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.439 a willingness to look at other people because many Republicans 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.760 you talk to, even if they like what Donald Trump 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.239 did as president and they feel like he has been victimized, 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.600 they do feel like this is a lot for them 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.000 to handle and will make his ability to win the 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.560 general very very tough. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.040 Now, Jenny the even President Biden, I was asked today 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.920 a news conference with Rishi Sunnek at the White House 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.720 and asked as he was had he folded up his 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.840 book and he was starting to leave. You know, if 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.880 you influence the DOJ, would you respond to what Donald 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.400 Trump is saying, which is what you're talking about? And 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.800 he had to respond to that does this. So this 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.160 is going to play politically back and forth like that 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.200 with Joe Biden not saying anything in Trump all over 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:48.040 social media. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.679 That's right, and Joe Biden and the White House are smart. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.960 The campaign on the Biden side is smart to not 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.840 say a word about this. If they were to jump 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.440 into this tray, it would be a big mistake. Donald 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.360 Trump is trying to goad them into saying something they 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:07.800 should keep quiet. You know, when your opposition is faltering, 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.880 let them falter is the rule. Don't jump in. And 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.559 so I think he's going to continue to be quiet. 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.040 I hope he is. But I do think Donald Trump 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:17.720 is not going to let up. He is going to 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.840 continue to say that this is a witch hunt, This 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:25.040 is something that is politically motivated, and there is an 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.240 audience for that argument. But I also think there are 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.040 Republicans out there, a large percentage, who say, even if 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.760 he was victimized in this way, it's going to be 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.360 difficult for him to win the general And for our 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.640 own purposes, if we hope to beat Joe Biden, as 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.959 many of them, all of them do, we've got to 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.839 look elsewhere. So while this may help Donald Trump to 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.440 a certain extent, I don't think in the long term 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.280 it's going to be a winning strategy for him. 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.760 So at what point, if you're a Republican candidate running 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.439 for president, Jeanie, do you make the choice to kind 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.480 of cross the line to not defend the president, or 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.600 to remain silent and to be critical and to actually 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.840 say former President Trump you're carrying too much baggage around, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.920 particularly on the legal front. You're not the ideal candidate 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.439 if we want to retake the White House. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.559 I think we're already seeing that happen. We saw Vice 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.679 President Pence out in just the last couple of days, obviously, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.160 governor former Governor Chris Christie out making that case. So 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:26.440 I do think we are hearing potential representatives and potential 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.560 candidates for the Republican nomination who are making that case. Already. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.680 Ron DeSantis has made that case when he's been asked 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.920 even things as basic as you need a two term 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.720 Republican he's saying, and not a one term. So I 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.160 do think we're hearing that, and I think if he 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.040 is in fact indicted, or when he is indicted, facing 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.640 the amount of charges that he's facing, as serious as 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.440 they are, we're going to hear that drum beat more 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.960 and more from these opposition candidates. A few have been 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.280 reticent to make that case, but I think more and 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.120 more the damn is going to be broken and we 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:00.960 are going to hear that argument made. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.600 Timing this is going to be Jeannie going on. Now 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.600 the core case doesn't come be presented immediately This is 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.720 probably going to run into primary season, and even it 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.680 could run toward the general. Can he be elected? Do 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:17.520 you believe? And I know I'm asking for your opinion. 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:18.280 Can he be elected? 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.120 I think realistically, could he be elected in the general, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.440 I do not believe. So I go with Governor Chris Sanunu, 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.840 who says, you know, a vote for Donald Trump in 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.000 the Republican primary at this point is a vote for 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.640 Joe Biden. And that is the argument I think you're 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:40.120 going to hear Republicans make increasingly. It's simply difficult, given 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.960 the math to imagine that he could win over the 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.960 Moderates and Independence and the Republicans. He needs to capture 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.920 the White House. Could he win the nomination? Yes, if 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.200 there are you know, a large number of Republicans vying 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.680 for this and they stay in a long time, he 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.960 can hold his thirty, but he fairly difficult to win 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.320 the general. But to your point about the timing, it's 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.960 utterly astounding. Already we see the New York case schedule 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:09.080 just after Super Tuesday. You couple a federal indictment with that, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:13.280 whatever happens at Georgia, and this is going to be astounding. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.400 This is a man who's going to be focused on 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:21.120 fighting for his life and yet also running for president again. Extraordinary, 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.480 like nothing we've ever seen in American history. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:24.040 If you're just. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:28.080 Joining us here on Bloomberger Daybreak Asia, that is Genie Shechianzeno, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.720 Professor also Bloomberg Politics contributor, helping us unpack the story 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.880 that we've been talking about. Former President Trump saying today 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:39.040 a short while ago on truth Social that his attorneys 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:43.240 have been informed that he was indicted by the Special 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.800 Prosecutor Jack Smith's office, and The New York Times reporting 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.960 that mister Trump is set to surrender to authorities in 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:51.960 Miami next Tuesday.