Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.
Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast. It's
Speaker 1: a musical week, well school musical week.
Speaker 3: It's a week of first Oh, very good, very good, Kevin.
Speaker 2: This episode, season three, episode five, the first time originally
Speaker 2: aired November eighth, two thy eleven. This was a dense episode.
Speaker 1: A lot a lot happened.
Speaker 2: I stopped halfway through and I was like, this has
Speaker 2: got to be almost over right, Not because I was bored.
Speaker 2: I just meant I wasn't sure what because I thought
Speaker 2: my side story number was in this and I was
Speaker 2: on halfway through.
Speaker 1: Yes, I I did the exact same thing. I had
Speaker 1: to pause, and I was like, oh, there's a lot
Speaker 1: a lot happens. Let's just get into it. There's okay,
Speaker 1: So something's happening in the world before the number one song.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna see this a lot moving forward,
Speaker 1: not that we haven't before, but like we're gonna do
Speaker 1: the song. Five episodes later, we found Love is the
Speaker 1: number one song Rihanna and Calvin Harris, and that's going
Speaker 1: to be an iconic number for you. Kevin and the
Speaker 1: number one movie is still pussing Boots. But more importantly,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Glee news this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah. On November eleventh, Glee The Music the Christmas Album,
Speaker 2: Volume two was released Shout Out Too. Yeah. The album
Speaker 2: featured twelve fest tracks, including two original songs, eight of
Speaker 2: which appear in episode nine of this third season. This
Speaker 2: album was available on CD Ancient and for digital download
Speaker 2: Get All in One for Christmas? Is You Extraordinary? Merry Christmas?
Speaker 2: Santa Baby, let it snow Christmas Rapping? Do they know
Speaker 2: it's Christmas? Oh? My god? Do they know it's Christmas?
Speaker 1: Christmas? Wow?
Speaker 2: There's a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into that with the next episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So this episode was directed by our editor extraordinaire
Speaker 2: and also now director Extraordinaire Brad Beaker.
Speaker 1: M H and written by Roberto A Gear Sicassa who
Speaker 1: is off to make it a very very large career
Speaker 1: for himself after this.
Speaker 2: A little show called Riverdale.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of it? Okay? So, the songs in
Speaker 1: the show tonight, we are doing school musical, so a
Speaker 1: lot of them will be west Side Story, but some
Speaker 1: of them won't Tonight west Side Story, Uptown Girl, Billy, Joel, interesting,
Speaker 1: boy like that. I have a love west Side Story, America,
Speaker 1: west Side Story and one hand, one heart. So this
Speaker 1: is like the Brittany episode and then you get only exception.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we also get our introduction to one Grant Gustin.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Grant. We start that roller coaster pre him being the
Speaker 2: flash m hm, and I didn't realize he came in,
Speaker 2: so well we'll get there. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: Grant's coming in hot.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, okay. Grant also, fun fact, was
Speaker 1: in the national tour of The West Side Story right
Speaker 1: before this, right before he started Glee and now is
Speaker 1: in Angle.
Speaker 2: So he was being haunted by West Side Story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a great show. Okay, fun facts.
Speaker 1: We've got some fun facts for this episode. So Kevin,
Speaker 1: this is Artie's first voiceover of the series.
Speaker 2: I could tell because someone wasn't very good at them.
Speaker 1: So when you do the voiceovers for this, for any only,
Speaker 1: usually it's like the end of the day. The mike,
Speaker 1: like the boom operator, who is like one of our
Speaker 1: main sound guys. They come over, you stand with the
Speaker 1: director literally like holding your lines, and you read it
Speaker 1: a few times. That's at least my experience.
Speaker 2: On the soundstage, you're not in a recording shat or
Speaker 2: anything like that. They just pull you aside and.
Speaker 1: People are like finishing their day. It's so weird. You're
Speaker 1: not in like a recording booth. You're not like doing
Speaker 1: it a million times. You probably get two or three
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, right, got it. So that for
Speaker 1: people who didn't know, this is the second episode to
Speaker 1: not feature any solos, only duets or group numbers. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Wow, the person was Vitamin D, which was so long ago.
Speaker 1: Wow. West Side story performance shown in the episode was
Speaker 1: actually strictly forbidden. So MTI, the company that licenses the show.
Speaker 1: Every show has a licensing company they go it, so
Speaker 1: this one's with MTI, and they strictly forbid any group
Speaker 1: performing the musical for making changes to the original musicals, books,
Speaker 1: song or story. Changing the dialogue of the musical to
Speaker 1: match the nineteen sixty one film version is also forbidden,
Speaker 1: which is also done. So we had a lot of penalties.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but we're really not supposed
Speaker 1: to do a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Do you think we got in trouble or we asked
Speaker 2: for permission?
Speaker 1: No? I think we just did it, and then I
Speaker 1: think we just then we just went with it.
Speaker 2: Damn. This is the second episode to show a viewer
Speaker 2: discretion advice content rating message right before the airing of
Speaker 2: this episode, the first being sexy hmmm interesting.
Speaker 1: Rachel also said she wasn't going to lose he virginity
Speaker 1: until she turned twenty five and what had wanted Tony
Speaker 1: and her Broadway career was established, which Finn does allude
Speaker 1: to about winning our Tony, but that goes to crap.
Speaker 2: Brittany had a very controversial line in this episode when
Speaker 2: there are people were talking about their first times, she
Speaker 2: says she just climbed into my tent alien invasion, and
Speaker 2: that obviously led to people debating whether not Britney was
Speaker 2: sexually assaulted during her first time. Although it's Brittany and
Speaker 2: so maybe she was just confused about the situation and
Speaker 2: making a joke that fascinating. I didn't even when she said,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh that hmm. It did make me wonder,
Speaker 2: you know, huh. Also in Latin America, the part where
Speaker 2: Curtin and Blank kiss was cut when the episode was aired.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: Hell no.
Speaker 1: Screen copies of this episode was sent to a number
Speaker 1: of critics before the show. My gloss Yellow shout out.
Speaker 1: He from tv Line he called it stellar in a
Speaker 1: standout episode, and Enter Team in Weekly's Tin Stack wrote
Speaker 1: that it was one of Glee's best in stallments ever
Speaker 1: and an exceptional episode. This is so interesting to me,
Speaker 1: too fascinating. So prior to the broadcast, Chris anticipated that
Speaker 1: the episode sexual themes a lah him and him and Darren,
Speaker 1: you know, doing the deed and content would prove controversial
Speaker 1: among television watchdog groups. He said, I absolutely expect to
Speaker 1: hear from them, but I don't. But I think it's
Speaker 1: handled very sweetly and very emotionally. They're expecting this big, raunchy,
Speaker 1: suggestive brainwashing storyline when it's really very very sweet.
Speaker 2: And before the episode aired, the Conservative Parents Television Council
Speaker 2: called the show reprehensible and the Fox network reckless for
Speaker 2: celebrating teen sex. Where had they been the past two seasons?
Speaker 2: We literally did like a virgin montage, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: people just want controversy and just want some free press.
Speaker 2: That's not what was happening. But Jenna thoughts about this
Speaker 2: episode because well hold on, so they summary of the
Speaker 2: episode is under Artie's director or leadership. The kids prepare
Speaker 2: to perform the school musical West Side Story, which leads
Speaker 2: to two couples to take their next step in their
Speaker 2: relationship Wanky. Meanwhile, Finn meets with a recruiter and Coach
Speaker 2: Beast has an admirer. You and I were just talking
Speaker 2: about how we feel about this episode before we started recording, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because it felt like there was a lot of ground
Speaker 2: to cover. It felt like there were about eighty storylines
Speaker 2: happening in this right and also like the full length
Speaker 2: version of America totally right, like there was a lot.
Speaker 2: Well that's it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the school musical, like, it wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's all surrounding like some drama and we get it
Speaker 1: done in time and something goes wrong, Like there were
Speaker 1: like fifteen other important storylines happening alongside the musical, which
Speaker 1: is why I think they wrote it that way. But
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, are really stuffing it in.
Speaker 2: It was serious stuff too.
Speaker 1: And we don't usually see this right like a school
Speaker 1: musical performance anyway, So for it to be weaved in
Speaker 1: throughout these storylines without music that was quite applicable to
Speaker 1: those storylines, like it felt a little like, Okay, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna make this musical work, and we're gonna make
Speaker 1: all these storylines the can we're try and intertwine them,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like a lot of my brain
Speaker 1: felt like a little stuffed.
Speaker 2: I sort of I feel like that must be like
Speaker 2: a maybe like a Beaker Brad Beaker idea m to
Speaker 2: make all of it work so it's not just musical
Speaker 2: number seeing musical number scene, because it did feel like
Speaker 2: a real like musical movie to me in that way,
Speaker 2: or especially the first time they start doing it where
Speaker 2: they're talking about who's had sex and who hasn't, and
Speaker 2: they're weaving it in with the actual number, it felt
Speaker 2: I liked that a lot, but I wasn't really aware
Speaker 2: of what was happening, Okay, like, oh, is this a rehearsal?
Speaker 2: Is this right the actual show right? I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then I think because there was so much to
Speaker 2: cover than some storylines got lost and like Mike Chang
Speaker 2: storyline had just like a couple of shots and a
Speaker 2: scene that will.
Speaker 1: Live on, that will live on. But yeah, agreed, agreed,
Speaker 1: This is when I feel like they'll there's a lot
Speaker 1: to cover because there's so many characters and so much
Speaker 1: to write for that we'll see this trend throughout the
Speaker 1: rest of the series because there's just so many people
Speaker 1: and people that like fans care about, so they want
Speaker 1: to write about everybody. That's true, and sometimes you get
Speaker 1: lost in the abyss aka Teina Khan Cheg. But like
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like there's just a lot of
Speaker 1: characters to give time to.
Speaker 2: I would like to start this off by saying, what
Speaker 2: is Artie's problem? What do you mean when it comes
Speaker 2: to relationship stuff women? Especially, He's so bad and like
Speaker 2: weird because.
Speaker 1: I think in real life a lot of guys are
Speaker 1: bad at this.
Speaker 2: It's hard to watch.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't mean to generalize, not everybody.
Speaker 2: I was shocked several times by his behavior in this episode,
Speaker 2: where like making the students have.
Speaker 1: Sex right like that I thought was interesting.
Speaker 2: They don't have passion because they had never done it,
Speaker 2: and like, as a friend, he respects their aversion to fun,
Speaker 2: and then he meddles and coach beasts love life, which
Speaker 2: was weird.
Speaker 1: Interesting, why are you the one?
Speaker 2: This is a grown ass person. Why are you coming
Speaker 2: up on her and meddling asking why she walked out
Speaker 2: when it's not your business, not your business. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like sure, ultimately maybe it leads to a really nice
Speaker 2: moment later on in the episode.
Speaker 1: It was just interesting. It was you right, like you
Speaker 1: didn't have to be me. I will say, though, you
Speaker 1: have had a relationship with coach Beast amongst all of
Speaker 1: all the characters, like your experience with like wanting to
Speaker 1: be on the football team, and that whole storyline, like
Speaker 1: it is the closest that's not Finn or Puck.
Speaker 2: Was shooting this episode.
Speaker 3: No, what.
Speaker 2: Was he?
Speaker 1: He was in the audience, Kevin, he was watching the show,
Speaker 1: was in the audience, But that's it. He had a
Speaker 1: nice he was busy.
Speaker 2: He must have been doing something else.
Speaker 1: And no su oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's why there was so much of using the
Speaker 2: other people.
Speaker 1: Yeah and everybody else. Okay, okay, okay. Already though, I
Speaker 1: will say, has a really nice storyline with the whole
Speaker 1: director his directorial debut and how he gets a panic
Speaker 1: attack and everybody is actually just thinking him and how
Speaker 1: you really helped us to open up. It was very sweet.
Speaker 2: Do you remember filming that little scene? No, so this
Speaker 2: was the first time for me. I'm sure they had
Speaker 2: done it to other people, but I found out right
Speaker 2: we were filming a scene earlier in the day and
Speaker 2: right after that they said they are changing. So originally
Speaker 2: I had like a two page like monologue.
Speaker 1: Yes, Kevin, I remember this. I was quizzing you on it.
Speaker 2: Yes, you were helping me work on it because it
Speaker 2: was really long, and I wasn't someone like Sue or
Speaker 2: Shoe or Santana who normally had a bunch of lines
Speaker 2: like that, Oh my god. And so you were helping me.
Speaker 2: And then they came up and like, oh, we're going
Speaker 2: to get some edits, they're going to rewrite it, and
Speaker 2: I started to panic, and then they gave me. You know,
Speaker 2: normally the script you have set called sides. They're like
Speaker 2: little versions of the script. They're like shrunken down and
Speaker 2: they're just the pages you're shooting that day, and they're
Speaker 2: white like a script. And then any change is a
Speaker 2: different color paper, so you have a yellow, green, blue,
Speaker 2: depending on what edit it is. And so they gave
Speaker 2: me like these new green pages and it was longer
Speaker 2: than I think that's than what was in the episode.
Speaker 2: I think they chopped it down a bit, but I
Speaker 2: was so panicked, and Brad Beeker is just the most
Speaker 2: gentle soul and he would never let you freak out.
Speaker 2: He's like, don't worry, it's gonna be fine. Because I
Speaker 2: had everybody in the cast looking.
Speaker 1: At me, staring at you, and you.
Speaker 2: Don't want to like make the day longer for everybody.
Speaker 2: And I believe it was the last scene of the day.
Speaker 2: And so there we are and I'm looking at you.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, stay in it, just get it together,
Speaker 2: like we got it. And everyone was very supportive because
Speaker 2: everybody knew, which was nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, thanks for the memory job, Kevin.
Speaker 2: I forgot about it. I remember that happening, I just
Speaker 2: didn't know when it happened.
Speaker 1: And then when you saw the episode.
Speaker 2: When I see myself wheeling up on the stage having
Speaker 2: that panic attack, I'm like, this is it. And so
Speaker 2: during all of that, like when we were shooting those
Speaker 2: little things, that's when I was getting given the new pages.
Speaker 2: Oh fun, Like while we're still like shooting something, right,
Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, this is fun for me. It might
Speaker 2: have been the day we did America, to be honest,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it was that, And it was at the
Speaker 2: end of the day.
Speaker 1: I think it was because I think you were sitting
Speaker 1: in the back. We were doing America and you were
Speaker 1: working on it, and then they gave you the new ones.
Speaker 2: Because that's all day. Because I'm not yes, yes, So
Speaker 2: I spent all day working on the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: We've all been there. Don't worry, they'll be wanting me
Speaker 1: like that. But I loved I liked your little storyline,
Speaker 1: and I also liked your line about finding your new
Speaker 1: purpose to boss people around.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Artie storyline was very relatable for me in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, mm hmm. It's still up performing, but I
Speaker 2: have realized I like doing these other things too, behind
Speaker 2: the scenes and bossing people around and making decisions about taste.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's all it's about.
Speaker 2: It was very fun, like when Leah was trying on
Speaker 2: the stresses and things. Doing that whole stuff was very fun.
Speaker 1: Oh that was really funny. Do you remember shooting that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: really funny.
Speaker 2: Because you know, it was like stuff we didn't normally
Speaker 2: get to do. Right, we're usually doing our routine was
Speaker 2: usually the same every day, like reading the Quire room.
Speaker 1: We're doing a number, right, But when we each had
Speaker 1: like a different storyline it was like, oh, memorable, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: We're very funny though.
Speaker 2: So what happens during the top of Artie's storyline and
Speaker 2: the west side storyline West side story storyline when Artie
Speaker 2: talks about Blaine and Rachel not having passion because it
Speaker 2: looks like they probably haven't had sex before, Coach Beast
Speaker 2: and Emma Pillsbury get up and leave immediately, but Artie
Speaker 2: doesn't let that go for some reason. So it's revealed
Speaker 2: that Coach Beasts has also never been intimate with anyone.
Speaker 2: Well yeh, she just had her first kiss. Everyone down.
Speaker 2: But she does have a crush on Cooder Mankins, who's
Speaker 2: the football recruiter from Ohio State, and so Artie sort
Speaker 2: of finesses this date happening. He finds out from Beast.
Speaker 2: Then he meets Cooter and is like, you need to
Speaker 2: be straight up with her and ask her again, like
Speaker 2: very clear yes, And then Beast opens up to him
Speaker 2: and they have some great chemistry together. They together very.
Speaker 1: Cute, and she's just cute. I mean, she's just the
Speaker 1: sweetest little muffin. And so when you and when you
Speaker 1: get vulnerable Beast versus like football coach funny chicken eating beast.
Speaker 1: It's like, I just my heart breaks for her all
Speaker 1: the time, and how honest she is and how vulnerable
Speaker 1: she has to be about not wanting, you know, not
Speaker 1: feeling like you know, she she deserves love. And so
Speaker 1: I'm anytime you get Dot Dot Marie Jones getting some
Speaker 1: you know, tears out, it's it's always a win for me.
Speaker 2: It also makes you wonder if they just started, you know,
Speaker 2: once you get to know Dot and they did know
Speaker 2: Dot like Brad Ryan and Ian, if you know you
Speaker 2: start writing to that because Dot is.
Speaker 1: Just like that in life. Yes, yes, totally, they know
Speaker 1: she can do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Mike Chang, his dad is going to confront
Speaker 1: him in this episode and this will continue on. But
Speaker 1: obviously this this is continuing from Asian f where his
Speaker 1: dad wants him to be have a real job, go
Speaker 1: to school, go to an ivy league, and Mike Chang
Speaker 1: has decided that he's going to audition and book the
Speaker 1: part of ref and be in the school musical and
Speaker 1: uh just kind of go against his father's wishes. But
Speaker 1: this is the intense one where his dad confronts him
Speaker 1: in the hallway when he finds out he's going to
Speaker 1: be in a west Side story and says that he's
Speaker 1: going to disown him as a son if he does this.
Speaker 1: This is very dark, it's.
Speaker 2: Very very intense, and nothing else in the episode is
Speaker 2: happening like that, right, and all of a sudden, First
Speaker 2: of all, why is he coming to school to do this?
Speaker 2: Do you guys?
Speaker 1: Not bad place, bad time?
Speaker 2: Live in the same place, like not tech, what's at home?
Speaker 1: Right? Right?
Speaker 2: But so intense and like to disown him, to threaten him,
Speaker 2: to disown him if he pursues his dancing professionally.
Speaker 1: Is and he has the sport of his mother now,
Speaker 1: which is good. But obviously he looks out to the
Speaker 1: audience and he's not there, and it's not very heavy
Speaker 1: to be doing in the school hallways and for them
Speaker 1: to make those rash decisions very quickly. But I will say,
Speaker 1: like a lot of kids deal with their parents not
Speaker 1: wanting them to pursue the arts. So I'm glad this
Speaker 1: was this. This topic is you.
Speaker 2: Know, being addressed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, being addressed. And obviously the stakes are a little
Speaker 1: bit higher for this one. It's not like, oh, we're
Speaker 1: not paying for your college. It's like, oh, you won't
Speaker 1: have a dad.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I mean I think all of us
Speaker 2: who have pursued the arts professionally luckily like you and I,
Speaker 2: have very supportive parents. But I mean, how many people
Speaker 2: every meetings that do not have that. I think it's
Speaker 2: more common that parents are not so into the idea
Speaker 2: because it's super unstable and always nobody wants.
Speaker 1: To say their kids suffer. Look now, having a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want I'm going to do this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like, you know, what are you going to do
Speaker 1: if she says she loves it? When am I say? No,
Speaker 1: you can't live your life like it's not my job.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how this all unfolds. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but it's also.
Speaker 2: Just nice to see like Mike Chang, Yeah, step up
Speaker 2: and just be like I'm doing this. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be a doctor, right, empowering. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Should we talk about Blaine and Kurt or should we
Speaker 1: talk about Rachel and Finn.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Rachel.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of things happening here, So Rachel and Finn.
Speaker 1: Rachel is encouraged by Artie to have sex to become
Speaker 1: more passionate and understand, you know, intimate for their opening night,
Speaker 1: so that they could take on the roles of Maria
Speaker 1: and Tony having lived experience, and she basically, I don't
Speaker 1: know tricks Finn, And I don't know if you would
Speaker 1: say tricks, but I maybe kind of say tricks. Fin
Speaker 1: into going to have sexual for the first time before
Speaker 1: opening night, and she blorts out, I have to do
Speaker 1: this before the show opens, and he's like, wait, hold
Speaker 1: on a second, and so they have like this conflict
Speaker 1: going on of he thought she wanted to wait. She
Speaker 1: has ulterior motives obviously for her career, because that's Rachel Barry.
Speaker 1: And then Finn is also dealing with Cooter being in town.
Speaker 1: Who is the football.
Speaker 2: Recruiter, Cooter the recruiter.
Speaker 1: I had to say it, So they each have.
Speaker 2: Their own emotional shit going on, right, It's very heavy,
Speaker 2: and I also like going into this, Rachel is sort
Speaker 2: of like Cheers into four months with no drama, and
Speaker 2: then immediately here it starts drama by trying to basically
Speaker 2: use the first time it's Finn has something for her
Speaker 2: career here, like there we go, We're back to our
Speaker 2: regularly scheduled program.
Speaker 1: When we did this, I remember doing this the scene
Speaker 1: where Rachel calls the emergency meeting and we're all talking
Speaker 1: about our stuff, and.
Speaker 2: I liked the scene a lot. By the way, you
Speaker 2: were great.
Speaker 1: Hated shooting this scene.
Speaker 2: You were really great, though.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks, I thought I was awful.
Speaker 2: Disagree.
Speaker 1: I also like it was like back cameras too close
Speaker 1: to my face. Get out of there, you know season
Speaker 1: three Jenna, ooh brutal, Okay, I just get out of
Speaker 1: my face. Please. I hadn't. Gina hadn't figured out her
Speaker 1: her jawline yet, she hadn't figured out her makeup like
Speaker 1: it all could have.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: We're just we were waiting to mature a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I was like, please get out of my face.
Speaker 1: That was hard to watch. I will be honest, but.
Speaker 2: Also break this episode. I also even said that.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks, that's nice of you. I actually was okay.
Speaker 1: So for America, which we'll get too. I was preparing
Speaker 1: for a photo shoot the next day and I was
Speaker 1: doing the water diet. It's horrible and I never would
Speaker 1: encourage anybody. I don't even want to tell you what
Speaker 1: it is. But I was on some kind of crazy,
Speaker 1: wild thing that people do, and I was I was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, I hate how good.
Speaker 2: I damn it because I wasn't drinking any water. That's
Speaker 2: so bad.
Speaker 1: I know, it's really horrible. I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: you what it was other than that anyway. But the
Speaker 1: first time scene I remember, it was really quid and
Speaker 1: you know, brad Bee Creek comes in. He's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do this and let's do that, and he's just
Speaker 1: like so sweet about everything. But I don't I hated
Speaker 1: that scene. I hated my work in that scene.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. Thanks, But it was a fun
Speaker 1: scene to shoot. Like all the girls don't get to
Speaker 1: like hang out like that in the scene, So it
Speaker 1: was like all these different This episode was kind of
Speaker 1: like a lot of different groups of people.
Speaker 2: I also do love It's one of my favorite things
Speaker 2: of high school shows when they do this, when like
Speaker 2: kids are having sort of these what would normally be again,
Speaker 2: this would not be happening in school and like some
Speaker 2: private classroom. These kids never go home. That's why their
Speaker 2: parents have to come there to talk to them.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, these conversations that are hard to address,
Speaker 2: these topics that are hard to address, but Rachel just
Speaker 2: on a Bachelor. They's asking about it, and then all
Speaker 2: of you are giving it to her, you know, honestly
Speaker 2: back whatever your experiences and not being embarrassed about what
Speaker 2: anyone's going to think of you. And I always think
Speaker 2: it's aspirational not necessarily realistic. But I do love when
Speaker 2: teen shows do this sort of thing. It elevates so
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it's what you want to see, it's
Speaker 2: what you want you hope kids are talking like totally.
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on with Rachel's kind of like
Speaker 1: conflict of wanting to have sex. But I will talk.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Finn's recruiter thing because the
Speaker 1: storyline is like it's minimal, it feels so small in
Speaker 1: the scheme of what's happening in the episode, but the
Speaker 1: scene with him like kind of recounting when when Cooter
Speaker 1: comes in and he's like, oh, you're going after Shane,
Speaker 1: and then his scene with Rachel when he's like revealing
Speaker 1: that he didn't like he has to kind of rethink
Speaker 1: his whole future. Corey at his finest coreyet is finest
Speaker 1: acting wise. It just reminds you why you love Finn
Speaker 1: so much. It's like the circumstances and the topics they
Speaker 1: were talking about were really great. Now that I'm like
Speaker 1: talking about it more, I'm understanding the importance of this
Speaker 1: episode revelation in the middle of the.
Speaker 2: Like I think you and I are just like shallow
Speaker 2: and like we want fun.
Speaker 1: Like whatever, teen sex, no problem?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like this is heavy.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's important stuff. It's important topics for teenagers.
Speaker 1: And the fact that people were talking about and we
Speaker 1: were allowed to do it on broadcast television is actually
Speaker 1: a really good up. I applaud Fox for like doing that.
Speaker 2: I also think you know what you said or the
Speaker 2: fence storyline wasn't a big thing. It was sort of minimized.
Speaker 2: But I also feel like that's a great representation of
Speaker 2: how he is in his career aspirations comparatively to Rachel,
Speaker 2: where it is very much in the back seat, on
Speaker 2: the back burner, a second thought or afterthought, you know,
Speaker 2: because he doesn't have the Broadway dreams that Rachel has.
Speaker 2: No one's really checking in with him being like, what
Speaker 2: do you want to do after high school? He is
Speaker 2: sort of the alpha, the pinnacle in high school right
Speaker 2: and very clearly hasn't thought about like what's going to
Speaker 2: happen as soon as that high school career is done? Right,
Speaker 2: And so to see him finally and I think it's
Speaker 2: like a very male reaction of I'm holding all of
Speaker 2: this in, all this tension that's probably subconsciously been building
Speaker 2: for a very long time, but didn't realize it until
Speaker 2: he was faced with it with the Cooter situation, right,
Speaker 2: And I yeah, it was like just like the Mike
Speaker 2: Chang storyline, even though it was quick, these are very
Speaker 2: I mean, they're obviously very well acted, very well written,
Speaker 2: but they still stand out just as much as a
Speaker 2: huge performance.
Speaker 1: No, totally, and they're just important. Like I think a
Speaker 1: lot of like think about like how I like football
Speaker 1: for you probably also is huge in high school, but
Speaker 1: oh no, well you went in California, but still I
Speaker 1: feel like football. Like even where I went to school,
Speaker 1: it was either football or theater.
Speaker 2: It was like your way out.
Speaker 1: Yes exactly, And a lot of these were looking for
Speaker 1: that way out or not thinking about their futures at
Speaker 1: all and going I'm the cream of a crop here
Speaker 1: in school and then like don't really know what to
Speaker 1: do afterwards. So just like to really approach these topics,
Speaker 1: talk about them like I I get it now, my
Speaker 1: glossy yellow and tim Stack, I could get it.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're never wrong. We love them there, you
Speaker 2: know it's I mean, it's also a testament to like
Speaker 2: the high school trope of like people peaking in high school.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 2: I mean I imagine it was because the kids who
Speaker 2: weren't popular are considered hot and all that they were
Speaker 2: dreaming of all the ways in which they could get
Speaker 2: out of there and how they were going to do
Speaker 2: it and building their dreams and aspirations and how they're going.
Speaker 1: To show so focused on something like being so focused
Speaker 1: on like I wish I could be that popular kid
Speaker 1: in school. When it like it goes to show like
Speaker 1: none of that matters, you know later in life. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's that. Now we go to Blaine and Kurt, who
Speaker 1: we have a love triangle. Well, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I call it a love triangle.
Speaker 2: I call it a villain.
Speaker 1: A villain so much a villain. He came in grant.
Speaker 2: I want that.
Speaker 1: I won't care. It doesn't matter to me if if
Speaker 1: you don't, if it doesn't bother you.
Speaker 2: What what when he was talking about how he drinks,
Speaker 2: what you said Cavassier in his coffee. I drank it
Speaker 2: like mother's milk when I lived in Paris. I GA,
Speaker 2: it's crazy because Grant Gustin is the sweetest human possible,
Speaker 2: not the most adorable. I love him and then he
Speaker 2: plays that range.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yes, and that's how we first met him,
Speaker 1: and then we were like, oh, wait, this is Grant.
Speaker 2: We love Grant like you're ours forever.
Speaker 1: Oh we love Gramp. Yeah. So Blaine is also on
Speaker 1: the same track as Rachel, thanks to already worried about
Speaker 1: lacking life experience, starts hanging out with Sebastian but also Kurt,
Speaker 1: then becomes jealous, but then Blaine brings Kurt into the
Speaker 1: drama by them all going to scandals the bar.
Speaker 2: This scandal.
Speaker 1: Where we see one Max Adler, we see Krooski. It's
Speaker 1: hanging at the.
Speaker 2: Bar, all these high schoolers hanging out at that bar,
Speaker 2: like he's had a couple of kids and yeah, been there, lives.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. But I thought that their sweet little
Speaker 1: side conversation at the bar was also really important, like
Speaker 1: really great. But k is just talking about like getting
Speaker 1: through high school, and it's like real foreshadowing for what's
Speaker 1: to come for Krovski very sad, but I really liked
Speaker 1: the little conversation and then him also just going and
Speaker 1: like getting what he wants in the middle of Blaine.
Speaker 1: And then they have this very heated scene in the
Speaker 1: car where I was like, where is this going?
Speaker 4: H Like, I was like, we can't make Blaine do that, right,
Speaker 4: but it feels real. This episode, in so many ways,
Speaker 4: feel so much more grounded than Glee normally.
Speaker 1: Is that's why it's so different?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were playing with heavy themes almost in
Speaker 2: every single storyline, right, and not making jokes about them
Speaker 2: like they just are. They're just existing as real and
Speaker 2: heavy as they should be. And the k of it
Speaker 2: all leading into that car scene, it's like you don't
Speaker 2: really get a break, right, it's sort of relentless. And
Speaker 2: then there's the tension of Sebastian just watching and stirring
Speaker 2: the pot and dancing with Blaine.
Speaker 1: There's a lot happened, also Blaine visiting the Warblers and
Speaker 1: like them doing that hours so random, Like that teacher.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that is the teacher that
Speaker 1: looks like at Dalton Academy?
Speaker 2: Because I am confused? Yeah, And also like, and they're
Speaker 2: just dancing with her. This feels inappropriate.
Speaker 1: It was all that was really interesting to me.
Speaker 2: It was weird because I just think the Warblers are
Speaker 2: so popular that they kept having to find ways to involve.
Speaker 1: Them, right, I mean, I didn't mind watching it. I
Speaker 1: just was like, this is so strange. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: make sense.
Speaker 2: The only thing that's really happening outside of the school ever.
Speaker 1: We needed to bring Sebastian. Yeah. I did like the
Speaker 1: Sebastian girl like that, like montage, I guess we're like
Speaker 1: the segue. I thought that was like probably the best
Speaker 1: one that we had in the episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also do like the Sebastian and Blaine
Speaker 2: sort of back and forth, like them hanging out getting coffee,
Speaker 2: keeps it fresh, it's fun. He's like a male Santana.
Speaker 1: It's so true. And then we just we see the
Speaker 1: least provocative sex scenes on television ever. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what these people are talking about, but I.
Speaker 2: Because I think the talking about it was the controversial thing.
Speaker 2: The actual act of it was pretty.
Speaker 1: Barely ms right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well anyway, now now that we've talked through it,
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. It was important.
Speaker 3: And like.
Speaker 1: Maybe not my favorite episode to like watch, but well done, Glee.
Speaker 1: Well done.
Speaker 2: All that being said, America, okay, let's go Naya as
Speaker 2: Santana as Anita is.
Speaker 1: We need more what we need in.
Speaker 2: The actual this number wasn't long enough.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it wasn't And it was.
Speaker 2: Long, like I needed to see.
Speaker 1: It was long. It was so longbelievably, it took a
Speaker 1: long time to shoot. I remember that it was really fun.
Speaker 1: One of the best memories of Glue that I have
Speaker 1: is shooting this number. We had so much fun.
Speaker 2: Because all the dancers were there, like everybody.
Speaker 1: There, and to watch Mark selling do that number was
Speaker 1: actually something I'll hold.
Speaker 2: You're all in it, everybody, Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got to talk about the accents for
Speaker 1: a second because we were all instructed to do the accents.
Speaker 1: No they were not right, No they were not correct. No,
Speaker 1: we did not have a dialect coach. But I think
Speaker 1: this is what happens in high school plays. We are
Speaker 1: all directed to do something with very little help.
Speaker 2: So you're saying it's already's fault, but.
Speaker 1: It's the school's fault. There was no budget for that.
Speaker 1: But also, like that's what happens in schools. They're offensive
Speaker 1: but without trying to be offensive because they just don't
Speaker 1: know and that's their impression of it.
Speaker 2: Like that was like why playing this part? I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: it's a school. You pick from what you have.
Speaker 1: No exactly, like or you just don't do the musical,
Speaker 1: but like, who's who's doing that? It was so much fun.
Speaker 1: I also was like doing that number like Damian mcinty,
Speaker 1: but doing number You're like, who am I to be
Speaker 1: dancing with these girls?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: God, they're so good. All these dancers are so good,
Speaker 1: and I was like.
Speaker 2: I dancing together was so good.
Speaker 1: But I was like, wow, already really brought in the best.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: It was really good. It was really really good. It
Speaker 1: was really fun to dance that. It's such an iconic
Speaker 1: number to do, and I'm so glad we did it.
Speaker 2: It's just weirdly, I go back to many podcasts ago
Speaker 2: when one of our guests was like I just think
Speaker 2: about like this is what you hear walking through the halls,
Speaker 2: Like it's setting up this unrealistic expectation that somebody is
Speaker 2: going to be as good as Naya at being Anita
Speaker 2: in high school. Like that was like an Oscar worthy performance,
Speaker 2: like she is unreal and all of you when you
Speaker 2: have like all these professional dancers, you who's actually been
Speaker 2: on Broadway several times, Like these are all very very
Speaker 2: skilled people doing this as high schoolers and it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. It is an unrealistic expectation for what's
Speaker 1: supposed to be because it's not.
Speaker 2: But I wish we did an episode that was just
Speaker 2: the West Side story performance all of them. Yeah, like
Speaker 2: just somehow do like the TV versions of the entire
Speaker 2: show so we can just see the show.
Speaker 1: See the whole show. And it's maybe that's why we
Speaker 1: were allowed to do it, because like we broke it up.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like you can't see it in sequence, and
Speaker 1: that's why we were legally allowed to do it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They must have found a loophole of some sort of
Speaker 1: I don't know that Fox would have let us do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, America goes down as one of my favorites
Speaker 1: of this season so far. And I don't really say
Speaker 1: that because like I'm usually when I'm in it, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to count it. But it was really
Speaker 1: good and I honestly forgot about it. Mmmmm, and that
Speaker 1: is up there with some of the best performances ever
Speaker 1: in the show.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Agreed. It is just so good.
Speaker 1: It's really good. It's a great number in general, like
Speaker 1: it's iconic, and so you're like, and it lived up.
Speaker 1: It lived up.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel you know, other times we're doing things
Speaker 2: that they make it feel more amateur, like more high school.
Speaker 2: That one just didn't feel like that, Like that felt
Speaker 2: like a Tony Award, like a performance like opening.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have all the performers who probably would
Speaker 1: have done like the dancers who would have done that anyway.
Speaker 2: An actual movie.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, exactly. Okay, well there's your episode. You're very
Speaker 1: important episode that we were wrong about.
Speaker 2: We were wrong about.
Speaker 1: It should wed some tarty takes.
Speaker 2: Okay, already approaching beast, approaching beast, it's already in general.
Speaker 1: Already already asking telling Blaine and Rachel they need to
Speaker 1: do the deed. It was just I don't know Britney's
Speaker 1: oh and Britney's only innovation, which is still questionable but
Speaker 1: still unacceptable. So we just we'll put that in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Britney's thing has to be has to be.
Speaker 1: Contused by it. Okay, the best dance.
Speaker 2: Move all of America. I mean, come on song, Zach
Speaker 2: Woodley and Brook like fully out of themselves in that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: best song America. I liked everything. I liked all the music.
Speaker 2: I did like the music being woven in. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I do wish there was more of a difference. I
Speaker 2: wish the music was heightened, more agreed.
Speaker 1: But it is a school musical, so I guess you
Speaker 1: would kind of keep the integrityrounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, prop uh the fake fake ideas. God,
Speaker 3: that's a good one. Very funny shout out to props.
Speaker 2: Best line I do have to I don't think this
Speaker 2: is this is like an honorable mention. I just want
Speaker 2: to say this is the already line. As you friend,
Speaker 2: I support your strange aversion to fun. I really enjoyed
Speaker 2: doing that, and that was a very Kevin thing to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Curage had some really good ones in this. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: have relations on a doing matter of Lilac Taylor Lautner
Speaker 1: before I gets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cooter had one last week. I told her I
Speaker 2: had a gift certificate to Applebee's. She totally fancy restaurants
Speaker 2: to make her nervous, funny, so good. He's so good.
Speaker 2: I really him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see more of Cooter performance. MVP. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that's really tough. I think I'm gonna go with Dot
Speaker 1: Marie Jones.
Speaker 2: I think Dot. I know Nya wasn't really in it,
Speaker 2: but the way Anita just I can't get over it.
Speaker 2: I cannot get over it.
Speaker 1: I know it was good.
Speaker 2: It was like everyone had a moment, so like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's like an ensemble award.
Speaker 1: Okay, we could do that?
Speaker 2: Is that a thing?
Speaker 1: You can do that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like everyone has really given it. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fair, and there were no like leads this episode.
Speaker 2: It's so true. People really showed up. Okay, be okay
Speaker 2: with that an ensemble MVP. I am, I am okay great.
Speaker 2: I mean, we make the rules. It's our show. Okay. Shit,
Speaker 2: we found on the TikTok okay, okay, are you ready?
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's a trend on TikTok and Heidi Puke
Speaker 2: that can't be is that right? High Hide and Seek
Speaker 2: it's talking about what music is your therapist? And it's
Speaker 2: just the gleek cast, all of the Gleek Cast songs
Speaker 2: and the gleek Cast artists, and she says, that's showbiz.
Speaker 1: Baby, that's funny. The comment below.
Speaker 2: When for Bray's Ponytail saved me on my darkest days.
Speaker 2: It's very good and people are roasting her because she's
Speaker 2: only liked seven songs. Oh oh my.
Speaker 1: Gosh, you guys, let's just be kind. Uh oh man.
Speaker 2: Someone said, I just cried to Finn's girls just want
Speaker 2: to have fun.
Speaker 1: Like five minutes ago. Very funny. Okay, well, next week
Speaker 1: is oh I was wrong. I thought it was Christmas.
Speaker 1: It's mash off and it has Glease three hundredth number
Speaker 1: and one of our best numbers ever. Rumor has said
Speaker 1: someone like you stay tuned, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2: I just between this, I know it's too much, and
Speaker 2: next week it's too much all of a sudden the
Speaker 2: Santana show. Wow, and I'm all about it rightfully so
Speaker 2: and it's like she's just become a star.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Pam, Well that's what you really missed, and
Speaker 1: it was a lot if you missed this episode, it
Speaker 1: was a lot.
Speaker 2: You really missed a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see you next week for our three hundredth
Speaker 2: musical performance.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: See you, thanks for listening, and follow us on Instagram
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