1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff I've never told you production of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: And for today I thought we would go ahead and 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: bring back our classic we did on a book one 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: of the way Haven Chronicles, which will probably help you 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: understand our recent book club we did on two and 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: three of the way Haven Chronicles. Maybe not, but I 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 2: feel like our listener Amanda, had a great rundown of it, 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: a great explanation, and it was really fun. 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: I enjoyed. I enjoyed coming back to it. 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm playing again, So yes, please enjoy this classic episode. 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm not going to step never told any production of iHeartRadio, 14 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: and today we are doing a revisit that we're very 15 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: excited about. Yes, because recently on a Monday Mini you 16 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: Samantha were talking about how you'd really gotten into these 17 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Choose your Own Adventure phone games. 18 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, kind of like it's called Choices AH by Pixelberry, 19 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: and yes, you determine like the characters and what you do. 20 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: We talked about the problematic things, but how much I'm 21 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: enjoying it, and I am still on it and I'm 22 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: still a bit obsessed. 23 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we in that episode you were talking about, 24 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, kind of the binary problems that might arise 25 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: and some of these more misogynistic are things like that 26 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: that might arise. But when you were talking about it, 27 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: I remembered that we had a listener who wrote in 28 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: I think a year ago, named Amanda, who was like, 29 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: you've got to play Way Haven Way Haven Chronicles because it's, 30 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: you know, got vampires, it's got supernatural elements, it's got romance, 31 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 2: all of this stuff. 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: And I had downloaded it then. 33 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: Because I was like, yes, I would love to do this, 34 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: and then I never played it because I got distracted. 35 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: But this restarted the memory and we Samantha and I 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: have now played the first book. 37 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: Yes, and I got through it much faster than you. 38 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Why can make because you are two weeks ahead of me? 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, how did I get faster than you? 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: To be fair, when I get caught up something in something, 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: I get caught up in something. I am a being 42 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: person for sure. So I finished it within a day. 43 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: But I was like, wait, you've been on that one 44 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: decision for a week. 45 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: What I can't wait to talk about that? It was 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 3: so funny. 47 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: I was just deliberating back, I was like sending people 48 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: who had no idea what I was talking about. I 49 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: was like, here are the plus and minuses of going 50 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: with those persons. What it took me forever to make 51 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: the decision. And I like that you had a prediction. 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: We'll come back and talk about it about like who 53 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: I should have done. 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, I assumed that it would be a specific person. 55 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, you didn't not at all. 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yes, Oh we're going to talk about it. 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: So this is going to be sort of a lighter, 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: more fun episode where we talk about our experiences. But 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: also we reached out to a listener, Amanda again, and 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: we just asked, like, what was your experience, what did 61 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: you like about it? Can you send us just some 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: general things that you really enjoyed about the game and 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: your experience with the game, And Amanda delivered and sent 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: us an audio file and all of these questions. So, Amanda, one, 65 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: you're amazing. If you're listening to you, you are essentially 66 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: interviewing us. In this episode, you were the interviewer because 67 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: we're going to give our answers to. 68 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: The questions that you wrote out. Yeah, yes, you're a hero. 69 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean to our attention. We enjoyed this very much. 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Your answers were amazing. I'm so excited. 71 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I think this is going to be fun and 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: I can't wait to compare our statistics because essentially, yeah, 73 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: you choose, you get a lot of options, and you 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: choose something, and then that at the end or at 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: any time, you can check and see if like you're 76 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: more charming or more intimidating and all of these things, 77 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: and your statistics based on the choices that you made. 78 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: So at the end, Samantha and I are going to 79 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: compare that, and I think it'll be very, very funny. Yes, 80 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: but yes, before we get into that, for anyone who's listening, 81 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: and it's like, what are you talking about? The way 82 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: Even Chronicles are a choose your own adventure game that 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: you can play on multiple platforms including Steam by Mishka Jenkins. 84 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: And here's the description from the Choice of Games website. 85 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: Your first case as a detective is forcing you to 86 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: open your eyes to a world bigger than you thought, 87 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: but maybe it's better to keep them closed. Knowing too 88 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: much doesn't help anyone sleep at night. Seems that Supernatural 89 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: didn't get the memo that nothing exciting ever happens in 90 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: the little town of way Haven. The way Haven Chronicles, 91 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: Book one is a thrilling four hundred and forty thousand 92 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: word interactive fantasy novel by Mishka Jenkins where your choices 93 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: control the story. It's entirely text based, without graphics or 94 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: sound effects, and fueled by the vast, unsuppable power of 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: your imagination. I did have very specific images in mind. 96 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this, like what did you think? 97 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: What did you see versus what I saw? We saw 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: two very specific different things. 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: If we did, we did. Indeed. 100 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: The description continues experience the big and small moments with 101 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: a host of characters throughout this exciting twist on the 102 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: usual supernatural tale, a story which will take you through 103 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: heart pounding romance, smile filled friendships, and shiver inducing drama. 104 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: Play as female, male, or non binary, with options to 105 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: be straight, gay, or bisexual. Discover the start of distinct 106 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: and lasting romances with the vampires of Unit Bravo spoiler, 107 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: Define and refine relationships with a variety of characters from friends, family, exes, 108 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: and enemies. Decide how you will fulfill the job up 109 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: detective through deduction, combat science, or people skills, discover the 110 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: truth of what awaits in we Haven in a play 111 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: style that suits your personality, indulged in true moments of romance, friendship, drama. 112 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: And fun fun. I love it so yeah. 113 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean, if I had to describe it, I would 114 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: say it is a shifting POV. But primarily you are 115 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: playing this from the point of view of a detective. 116 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: I named mine Kira Kingston. 117 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I was. 118 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh, we both chose Kira, so it was like four 119 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: or five names you could choose. I went with Kia Kingston, 120 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: who is started as detective in this small town of 121 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: way Haven, where sounds like not a lot happens in general, 122 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: but of course when you first start, suddenly there. 123 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: Are murders, bodies are dropping. 124 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: And you're not sure what's going on. And then your mother, 125 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: who you can change the relationship with the mother. You 126 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: can also shape of whether she's kind of estranged or 127 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: whether you're close. But it sounds like she's really busy 128 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: and you don't see that much. Comes in and she's 129 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: got this you know, Unit Bravo from this kind of 130 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: secretive government agency. 131 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: And yes they're all vampires. Yeah, well, this group is 132 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: this particular group. Samantha is giving me a very meaningful look. 133 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: I just say it. 134 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: And I did have a lot of fun playing it. 135 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: I was funny how much I got so caught up 136 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: in But what if it's the wrong decision? 137 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: And I contemplated a decision for days. 138 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: For days, and I would also I would I wonder 139 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: if you felt this, Samantha, But I would get torn 140 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: between like this is what I would actually do and 141 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: this is what I hope I would do right. And 142 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 2: I would try to be truthful to what I think 143 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: I would do, even if sometimes I was like, I 144 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: probably do that, And that's. 145 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: Part of the fun. It's like doing what you think 146 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: you should do and seeing what would happen. I actually 147 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: had a couple of incidents, and it may have just 148 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: been me on the phone where a couple of decisions 149 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: were taken out of my hands. It would just bypass. 150 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I didn't make that decision. So 151 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: I had like three or four times, I think, and 152 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: I was like, well, how did that happen? It's I 153 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: feel like that might if something goes wrong, if there's 154 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: a way to play this wrong, that's what happened. 155 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: Oh, you're gonna blame it on that. 156 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is because those affect those choices affect you. 157 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Oh, clearly, I guess we should have said not a 158 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: sponsor currently by any of this. 159 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: We just wanted to talk about it because we had 160 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: a good time. 161 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, game sponsors best fiends and yes, I 162 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: still play that. 163 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: I can't wait to talk about that again. 164 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: In our ad experience. If you haven't heard it, listeners, 165 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: Samantha gets real real, come. 166 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: On, this is how Nemesis. 167 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. 168 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: And Amanda was kind enough to answer these questions in 169 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: written format, but also to Senda's an audio file about 170 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: why she really enjoyed way Haven and a little bit 171 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: about her experience with it. 172 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 3: So we thought we'd play that. 173 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 4: What can I say about the way Haven Chronicles, Well, 174 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 4: first and foremost, it's a supernatural murder mystery with vampire 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: love interest, so it didn't take much to sell me. 176 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: I've been playing many of these text based Choose yourn 177 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: adventure stories for some time, and a big draw has 178 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: always been choosing a gender and sexuality that matches my 179 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: own and having reflected in the game. But what really 180 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 4: makes the way Haven Chronicles stand out is just how 181 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: well written and plotted out. The character, arts and story 182 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: are the love interest in particular for you, Bravo has 183 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: such distinct person that fit all sorts of romantic tropes. 184 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 4: Do you love slow burns with yearning? Av Adam is 185 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: your best bet? Do you love falling in love with 186 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: your best friend far or Felix? What about the angsty 187 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: rebel pretends to hate everyone but has a secret soft 188 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: side Morgan or Mason, And of course the person who 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: almost seems too good to be true, but who may 190 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: actually have a secret. 191 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: Hid in a way natally your name. 192 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: Each of these interactions is so unique and varies depending 193 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: on who you decide to ultimately romance, if anyone, which 194 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: is another fantastic bonus. You don't have to romance anyone 195 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: if you decide that's not your thing. Determining who will 196 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 4: be your best friend was just as interesting to me 197 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: as any potential budding romance, especially because of reprize you 198 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 4: to be kind and mesh with them. Not just anyone 199 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: will be able to match av Adam's gruff, no nonsense attitude. 200 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: This is in part due to the choices helping you 201 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: frame the detective personality, your surroundings and character interactions, providing 202 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 4: an opportunity to reflect yourself within the character, even the 203 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: little details, which as whether you drink coffee or tea 204 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: and what about with a pastry? You always got to 205 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: get it with a pastry. Whether you're detective is a 206 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: direct carbon copy of yourself, which fulfillment or neither. It 207 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: is not a fun experiment trying the different personality combinations. 208 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: It's easy in many. 209 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 4: Games to play as a snarky a hole without any 210 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: repercussions or anyone taking notice. But I love how in 211 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: this game that truly dictates how the other characters will 212 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: address you and follow through in the later books. My 213 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 4: last point I will say about the series and why 214 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: I love it is again focus on how the story 215 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: draws you in with these elements and delivers a really 216 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: compelling narrative that truly does change with each playthrough, depend 217 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 4: on how you equip your detective socially and with different skills. 218 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: With no spoilers, I've never had two runs to be 219 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: the same and can make it feel like an action, 220 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: romantic comedy or a thriller with a doomed romance, all 221 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: depending on these choices, and I think that's why even 222 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 4: after four years, I'm still replaying and eagerly awaiting the 223 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: third book. 224 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you Amanda for sending that in and 225 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: for writing out these questions also, which we're gonna use throughout. 226 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 3: We really really appreciate it. Okay, So. 227 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: I think we're going to go through and read Amanda's experience, 228 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: and then we're going to give our own experiences based 229 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: on what we experienced. I'm saying I'll experience a lot, 230 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 2: but based on what we chose and all the deliberations, 231 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: the deliberations and what happened. I'm very curious to see 232 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: if there were some differences in what happened because I've 233 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: only played it once, so I don't know if it 234 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: can shift or if the ending is kind of set. 235 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: It sounds like you can get multiple endings. 236 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: We play it just to see. 237 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we. 238 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: Both downloaded the second one, but we haven't started it yet, but. 239 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 3: Maybe a redo revisit. 240 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: So I guess Smith and I already kind of answered 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: this one, but Amanda wrote, what can I say about 242 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: the way Haven chronicles, Well, first and foremost, it's a 243 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: supernatural murder mystery with vampire love interest, So it didn't 244 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: take much to sell me. I had been playing many 245 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: of these text based choose your own adventure stories for 246 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: some time, and a big draw has always been choosing 247 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: a gender and sexuality that matches my own and having 248 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: it reflected in the game. But what makes the Waven 249 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: chronicles stand out is just how well written and plotted 250 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: out the character arcs and story are. The love interest, 251 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: in particular for Unit Bravo, have such distinct personalities that 252 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: it fits specific tropes. Do you love slow burns with yearning? 253 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: Ava slash Adam is your best bet? Do you love 254 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: falling in love with your best friend Farah slash Felix? 255 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: What about the angsty rebel who pretends to hate everyone 256 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: but has a secret sauside Morgan slash Mason, And of 257 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: course the person who almost seems too good to be 258 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: true but may have a secret hidden away Natalie slash Nate. 259 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: So if you're confused by the names, I believe, and again, 260 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: I've only played it once, and Samanth and I you 261 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: both chose bisexual, yeaesh correct? I believe if you choose gay, 262 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: maybe you get I don't know, maybe you get only 263 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: women's names. 264 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: If you're a woman, I don't know. I have no idea. 265 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: This is just speculation because we did not have Samantha 266 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: and I did not have these names. 267 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: Maybe it's what we were playing on. That is just 268 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: a theory that I have. 269 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: But so we had two women and two men, Adam, Nate, Farah, 270 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: and Morgan. So two men and two. 271 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: Women, those were the romantic interest for us. 272 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: Amanda continues, Each of these interactions is so unique and 273 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: various depending on who you decide to ultimately romance if anyone, 274 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: which is another fantastic bonus. You don't have to romance 275 00:14:54,440 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: anyone if you decide that's not your thing. So yeah, 276 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: this is one of the funniest things to me. 277 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: I that was the decision I got so hung up on. 278 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: I was like, who shall I romance because eventually I'd 279 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: been flirting with everybody, right, oh yeah, you you you. 280 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: But eventually you get kind of towards the end this 281 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: message that says, all right, you need to lock down 282 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: who are you going to pursue and it's gonna you 283 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: can't change it later. 284 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: You have to stick with it for the rest of 285 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: the game, and I did. 286 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: I texted multiple people screenshots of this and they're like, 287 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: we don't know who these people are like, we can't. 288 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: Help you out. 289 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: I was so stuck in my head and I'm somebody who, yes, 290 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: I identify as asexual. Romance isn't really my thing. But 291 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: I do like flirting. I really actually do like flirting. 292 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: So I got all caught up in it and it 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: was fun. 294 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: I did enjoy it. 295 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: I did kind of like, ooh, I wonder what will 296 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: happen if I. 297 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you and I talked about this between 298 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: this and our last book club, talking about missing the 299 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: flirting bit. I hate dating. I'm really bad at it, 300 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: but I'm really good at flirting. I'm really good at 301 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: flirting where there's no stakes, so essentially like there's nothing there, 302 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: but this is fun and I can flirt with you. 303 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm really good at that. If it's trying to be purposeful, 304 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: I am clumsy, like I talked about our meet Cure, like, 305 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: I am clumsy, clumsy, clumsy, So when I'm trying to 306 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: purposely flirt with no intention, I am great at it 307 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: and I enjoy it a lot. And then there are 308 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: the moments where you're like the beginning of like does 309 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: he like me? Do he reciprocate? Or is just one sided? 310 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: It's exciting and I've missed that. And I feel like 311 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: both of these things, this and the last book that 312 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: we did actually really puts that to the feeling. I'm like, Okay, yeah, 313 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: here we go, a big, big, surly, really moody dude, 314 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: let's go. 315 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it was definitely it was very fun 316 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of times when the 317 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: flirting part happened, there were maybe eight decisions, and there 318 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: was like two where you could like outright flirt, and 319 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: then one where it was kind of more subtle. And 320 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: I always did the more subtle one because I was 321 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: still kind of feeling out who I wanted, and so 322 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: I got a lot of the like, oh, your stomach 323 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: feels a little tight, but you're not sure why. Oh 324 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: your skin feels a little warm, but you don't know. 325 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: So it felt very like she wasn't aware, yeah, of. 326 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: What she was feeling, but she was feeling something. 327 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: Was that your experience did you have more like outright 328 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: flirting things. 329 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was the sparks, because I wasn't 330 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: being overtly taught done Towards the end, it was all 331 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: about the looks. 332 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 3: Ah, yes, the looks. 333 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: The looks and this did remind me as I mentioned 334 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: a game series I love, Mass Effects is like this 335 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: where you have like, I don't know, seven people, you 336 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 2: can romance, can chuse your gender, and all that kind 337 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: of stuff, And I played it enough times to romance everybody, 338 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 2: but it was almost like, again, I do think it's fun. 339 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: I think it was really enjoyable, but I also just 340 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 2: sort of wanted to know the story of what happens 341 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: if you romance this person and what you can learn. 342 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: So I was struggling with that too, where I was like, 343 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: but I really want to know what's going on with Morgan. 344 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: I wonder like. 345 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: It was making her this way. 346 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I wonder if I romance or I can find out, 347 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: but I did like more I deliberated with everybody. 348 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 3: I was so bagger for it. 349 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: I assumed it would be fair, to be honest. 350 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: That's honestly probably the one I should have done. I 351 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 2: ended up choosing the triangle the Nate and Adam. 352 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Which was shocking to me. 353 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: Well, because I wanted to see moy I want to 354 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 2: learn more, and so I, like I told you, if 355 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: I could have had everybody but Adam, I would have 356 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: had like a probably yes. 357 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: And to be fair. I was Adam. Adam was number 358 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: one for me. 359 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: That's so interesting. 360 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the others were too nice. I'd like to argue 361 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: with people. 362 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: Oh no, not me. I was like, just leave me 363 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: be sir, Let me do my job. 364 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: Let freed over the corner. 365 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 3: I did. I wanted to. I really liked Mari and 366 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: I really liked Faarah. 367 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: I don't know again, if I could have chosen like 368 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: multiple people, oh gosh, who knows, But that's why I 369 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: chose them. 370 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: And I do like I like a good tough guy. 371 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: Oh but I secretly am in love with you things, 372 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: so I'm sure I'll enjoy it in the second book. 373 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: But it was very much why can't I have Nate 374 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: and this person? 375 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: Right again, Nate would probably be the one I would 376 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: have ended up with, So I can't imagine in real 377 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: life like being with someone who's or Pharah like essentially, 378 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: But yes, I do in relationships. I've only been with men, 379 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: so that's the real life. 380 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: But I did. 381 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: I picked bisexual because I was like, you know what, 382 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: this is one of those like let's just take it. 383 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: Because I've always had moments of like, this woman is beautiful, 384 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily attractive, but I acknowledge how beautiful they are, 385 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: and I cannot ever let that go. And I'm more 386 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: likely to compliment a woman than I am a man. 387 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I mean it's just. 388 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: More options there, you got more options. 389 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: I'm greedy, yes, exactly, exactly. But something else that a 390 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: man had talked about here's a quote. Determining who will 391 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: be your best friend was just as interesting to me 392 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: as any potential budding romance, especially because it requires you 393 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: to be kind and mess with them, not just anyone 394 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: who'll be able to match with Ava slash adams gruff 395 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: no nonsense attitude. This is in part due to the 396 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: choices helping you frame the detective's personality. Here's around and 397 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: character interactions, providing an opportunity to reflect yourself within the character, 398 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 2: even the little details such as whether you drink coffee 399 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: or tea? What about with the pastry? You always gotta 400 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: get it with a pastry. 401 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: Of course I think I did that. 402 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. You also get friendship points. 403 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: You have flirting points and friendship points, and I had 404 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: a lot of I'm just friendly, so I had a 405 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: lot of friends points. 406 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: I only had the friendship points. Really, with Nate, that's 407 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: a high relation points. 408 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh well, I had a bunch, I think everybody added, 409 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: but even add. 410 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: Everybody else had a three or one, three or one, 411 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: and then at Nate I had six. 412 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: I had a bunch with Nate too. I had a 413 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: bunch of Nate, but there were a lot of opportunities 414 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: with him. I think right to have those interactions. And 415 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: then Amanda wrote whether your detective is a direct carbon 416 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: copy of your self, wish fulfillment or neither. It's been 417 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: a fun experiment trying the different personality combinations. It's easy 418 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: of many games to play as a snarky ahole without 419 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: any repercussions. 420 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: Or anyone taking notice. 421 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: But I love how in this game that dictates how 422 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: the other characters will address you and follow through in 423 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: the later books. Okay, my last point I will say 424 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: about the series and why I love it again focusing 425 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: on how the story draws you in with these elements 426 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: and delivers a really compelling narrative that truly does change 427 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: with each playthrough, depending on how you equip your detective 428 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: socially and with different skills. With no spoilers, I have 429 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: never had two runs be the same and can make 430 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: it feel like a live action rom com or a thriller, 431 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: doomed romance, all depending on these choices. And I think 432 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: that's why, even after four years, I'm still replaying and 433 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: eagerly awaiting the third book. Ooh, that's exciting. Okay, I 434 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: thought the third one was already out, So. 435 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Amanda, you're making all these things just too exciting. 436 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: Yes, well, and that's good to know, because, like we said, 437 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: we didn't. I haven't played it twice. Samantha has played 438 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: it twice. But no, well I know now I'm like, mmm, 439 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: but I am such a I guess there is a 440 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: slightly different It's hard for me to be snarky. 441 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: Oh I was so snarky. 442 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: I know, I'm one hundred percent. I was like, Samantha's 443 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: gonna choose this one. Every time I would see a choice, 444 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: I like, Samantha, She's gonna. 445 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Be forgiving it, loving, and I'll be like, no, thank you. 446 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: It's kind of I'm kind of notoriously. 447 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: I cannot like in Mass Effect, I can't be the renegade. 448 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: I have to be the parent. I can't do it. 449 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: And in like BioShock, I cannot do like take the 450 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: the energy from the tool. 451 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: I can't do it. 452 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Even if I'd get like a different ending or a 453 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: slightly different thing, I just can't do it, so it 454 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: would be interesting for me. There were certainly a lot 455 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: of choices. I was like this one or this one, 456 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: and so I'm sure I could have a play through. 457 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how different it would be. 458 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: So I was more snocky with the new new Bravo 459 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: team and the mom than I was with my coworkers. 460 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: I will say, mm hmm, yeah, I want I'm curious. 461 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: I think the thing I'm most curious about is the 462 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: last like the finale, I guess because there was a 463 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: lot in the kind of combat section at the end 464 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: where I was like I was, I got really in 465 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: my head about what would I actually do? So this 466 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: this one was very much me, a reflection of me, 467 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: of what I would do. 468 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: This is me being the Yeah, absolutely I'm a badass and. 469 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm not Mine was very much like can't we all 470 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: get along? 471 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: Nope? 472 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: That's interesting though, So yours wasn't necessarily you like, reflection 473 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: of you. 474 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: No, it is what I want to be. Okay, okay, 475 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: except the but I mean it's an interspersed you know, 476 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: you can't really because I couldn't absolutely be a jerk 477 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: the entire time. Like so like with a mortician, I 478 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: was very nice and like the CSI person was like 479 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: he and I are very close, the friend, the ex 480 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: partner very close. Even the dude who was the governor's whatever. 481 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: I was still like, eh, nothing to push those buttons. 482 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: But with like the team, if they pushed up gets me, 483 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: I pushed back like that's kind of that level. The 484 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: mom that was not as forgiving understanding, but not. 485 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: Uh huh okay, I mean, yeah, you can't totally separate 486 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: it out, but mine was certainly me trying to figure 487 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: out what I would actually do, so it could be 488 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 2: fun to do one where I'm just like I wish, 489 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: like this is the thing, seeing the differences. 490 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: That's the next run. 491 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. So Amanda continues first book, Rundown. Note. 492 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: I chose my romantic partner preference to be only women, 493 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: so the names below will reflect the female variations for 494 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: reference Ava Adam, Natalie nat slash Nate, Morgan slash Mason 495 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: slash Felix. 496 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: Okay, so if I say I'm heterosexual, it would all 497 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: be men. 498 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. 499 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: So, oh that's interesting Okay, that's not as much fun. 500 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, never do that version. 501 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna but that stills not so fun. 502 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 2: My first playthrough back when the first book released back 503 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. Shout out to the recap feature in 504 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: the second book for reminding me how it went, and 505 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: apparently I loved it so much I made an immediate 506 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: second run. So yes, when you start the second one, 507 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: it's like, do you want to recap? 508 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: How much details do you want? 509 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: Right? 510 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: You can also import your game from the first one, 511 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: which is what we did. Amanda continues. My detective personality 512 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: the first time pretty much reflected my own at the time, 513 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: so a bit serious, a little snarky, and all about 514 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: getting the job done. I followed the rules, including throwing 515 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: away my precious coffee and pastry, and got along most 516 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: with Tina. I didn't let Douglas, who's the mayor's son 517 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: who's also an intern, do whatever he wanted, and tried 518 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: to make him actually work to no avail. I had 519 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: a good but reserved relationship with my mother, respecting her 520 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: but slightly resenting her for being away much of the time. 521 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: And of course I had Bobby be an ex lover 522 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: from college because a snoopy reporter X and a vampire 523 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: love story is perfect for drama, agreed, and then Amanda 524 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: runs through major choices, one of them Okay, so yes, 525 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: I know we've already spoiled it, but at this point 526 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: get out now. If you were like I really don't 527 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: want any more spoilers. 528 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: Well, yours is also going to be different, So reminder 529 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: of that and your choices. You don't know what your 530 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: choices are. 531 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: Make that's true. 532 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: But to be fair, So for me, as we said Douglas, 533 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: him and my relationship was I ignored him essentially, let 534 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: him do what he wanted to and did my own thing, 535 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: not worrying about him. For me, Tina and I were close, 536 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: very close. Bobby and I were just acquaintances because I 537 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with him. He just sounded like 538 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: a douche from the joms, I was like, nope. And 539 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: for Rebecca the mother, we weren't very close in relationship, 540 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: but I understood her absence, but she's still in arm's 541 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: length away. 542 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Douglas, I tried to get him to do work 543 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: as well, but I also was kind of like I 544 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: felt like my hands were tired because he was the mareson, 545 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: but I did try to get him to do work. 546 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Tina and I were really close and there's a scene 547 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: where you like go out to the bar together and 548 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: we had a grand old time. 549 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: Not too much of a grand old time, but a 550 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 3: grand old time. 551 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: Uh. For Bobby, it says past relationship, acquaintance, a reporter 552 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: with bad morals. For Rebecca the mom, past relationship, very 553 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: close relationship even. 554 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: With the absences. 555 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: I knew it. 556 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 557 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: It was always like do you reach out or and 558 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: every other choice was like ignore her or like acknowledged 559 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: but don't. 560 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: I was always like, who reach out? 561 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: We could do this, but okay, it makes fun. I 562 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: knew that was going to be a bit. I was like, 563 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: so I can choose how this relationship is gonna look. Okay, yeah, 564 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: ok uh. So major choices that Amanda runs through shoot 565 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: ava first play through, I Pepper sprayed and that has 566 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: been a theme throughout unless I decide to let them go. 567 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: I so this is early in the on in the 568 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: game where you kind of you run into the vampires. 569 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: You don't realize their vampires. I did not shoot. I 570 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: think I was trying to be like, we're gonna talk 571 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: this out. 572 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Oh, I pepper sprayed Adam, Oh really real hard. 573 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: I think I was like talking to them. 574 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: Nope, immediately, no question. 575 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: And then Amanda writes reason for joining Wa Haven PD, 576 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: best job to use scientific skills, want to help people, 577 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: pretty consistent throughout. I'm a cybersecurity professional in real life 578 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: and even consider joining the FBI early in my career, 579 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: so this choice has always been fairly easy. Skills wise, 580 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: I tended to focus on technical and people skills, basic 581 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: detective things. 582 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: The three of us have something uncommon. You wanted to be. 583 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to be a diplomat slash CIA agent. 584 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then she does this, and I was 585 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: a state agency, worked with the facts, with the Department 586 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: Juvenial Justice. I wanted to help people a little different 587 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: than zobersecurity. But for a while I was looking to 588 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: do a job with GBI, specifically working with children. But yeah, 589 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: absolutely on that same route. But mine was there was 590 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: no technological stuff. It was all like people. 591 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: I believe because they asked you kind of early on, 592 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: how did you become detective? And I think because there 593 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: was one choice that was like, essentially you just had 594 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: to do it because the last person retired. I think 595 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: I said something along the lines of like I wanted 596 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: to do it, but I don't feel great about how. 597 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: I remember mind was because I wanted to help you. 598 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: I yeah, I And that was pretty much throughout when 599 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: it would be like why are you doing this, I 600 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: consistently would say, we need to help people of this town. 601 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: We have to prevent something like this happening, always kind 602 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: of focusing in on the town's people. My professional information, 603 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: my people skills is the highest seventy seven percent, combat 604 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: is zero percent, science technology fifty four percent, deductions last 605 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: knowledge thirty seven percent, and then buy the book sixty 606 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: three percent, been the rules thirty seven percent. 607 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because my people's skills was sixty eight percent, 608 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: my combat skills were forty percent, my science technology was 609 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: nineteen percent, deduction fifty two percent, and by the book 610 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: was fifty eight percent, been the rules forty two percent. 611 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: I was pretty even on that. 612 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: I feel like you had a you were overall better. 613 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: I feel like skills I was black. 614 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: You know, because my science and technology went, We're all 615 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: the way down. I thought I got challenged too. 616 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: By the way. 617 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm like I needed to up. 618 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: It right right right right. 619 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, we'll see what happens, and then Amanda 620 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 2: continues went out or stayed in, stayed in the office 621 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: as a chronic overworker. This made so much sense for 622 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: me to do, especially the first playthrough. Though I'm not 623 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: going to lie, the going out scene is so much fun. 624 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 2: I've worked on getting a better work life balance, so 625 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: later games I tend to go out, especially with romancing 626 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: Morgan for the fun interactions. 627 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: Now I'm curious. 628 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of both. I think I 629 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: definitely went out with Tina a few times. Nate and 630 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I went out and did out of Thay a couple 631 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: of times. That's all I got. 632 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: I don't think I ever went out with Nate other 633 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: than a work thing, but I went out with Tina 634 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: and then they all showed up right. And I know 635 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: there's that part with Tina asked you out. You have 636 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: to like pretty much directly asking you are you going 637 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: to be somebody who stays in or do you go out? 638 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes you say oh, yeah, yeah, And Tina even asks 639 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: like you know about romance, and you can say I 640 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: have no time for. 641 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: Romance, which I did. I think I said the same thing. 642 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: I think I said, like it's not a essentially it's 643 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: not a priority for me right now. 644 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: So I need to know. Because they described the home, 645 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: what kind of home did you pick? 646 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: I think I did. It was like. 647 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: Cozy, clutter, hozy clutter me too, end. I was like, 648 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: well damn it. 649 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like the whole team Bravo unit Bravo 650 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: comes over and. 651 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 3: They're looking at your apartment. 652 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: I remember feeling kind of like embarrassed even though it's 653 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: not real. 654 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: It's not real, but yet I was also embarrassed because 655 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: the options are like chic or minimal or industrial or cozy, 656 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, of course I'm want to do cozy. 657 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I didn't mean grandma cozy. 658 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: What does cozy mean to you? 659 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: Having enough blank is around so that everyone can have 660 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: one if they desire. 661 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: Yes, it's in a comfortable place to sit. 662 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I agree, I agree, but that is certainly 663 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: my apartment is what I chose the closest thing to 664 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 2: my apartment. And then Amanda writes reaction to vampire revelation, 665 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: accepting pretty much always choose this, especially after everything that 666 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: goes down the story. So this is like, when you 667 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: find out all these supernatural things they're vampires, how do 668 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: you react? I think I did the like what but 669 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: okay with it? Eventually, Yeah, me too. 670 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: I think I did the okay and then moved on. 671 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna need time to process. 672 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 673 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: I don't think I was ever like oh I hate 674 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 2: this or I hate all of you, or I was 675 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: just sort of like, this is a lot. 676 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 3: All right, well let's keep working. 677 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: Then we got things to. 678 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: Do exactly, and then Amanda Wrights agreed to agency blood test. Yes, 679 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: this one changes all the time as the story goes on. 680 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a right answer, but I'm sure 681 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: it will come back down the road. 682 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 3: I agreed to do it too. 683 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: Me too. 684 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 2: But I was very like I that one I got 685 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: stuck on for a long time. But I thought like 686 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: story wise, oh, it would. 687 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: Be in real life. I would want to know what's 688 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: wrong with me or what is happening immediately I would 689 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: be yes, mm hmmm, that's a real life decision. 690 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: I was very very torn, which is also me in 691 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: real life. 692 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 2: I was like, but now they'll have my blood like 693 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: I was back and forth, back and forth, but I 694 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: did eventually it was like, Okay, I want to I 695 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: want to know and see what happens in the story, 696 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: and then Amanda writes romance Ava, this was such a 697 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: difficult one, and I debated between her and Natalie for 698 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: way too long. My second game, I actually ended up 699 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 2: romancing Natalie, and I found that I rarely romance Eva 700 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: now because the slow burn and hot and cold of 701 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: her personality has been not my cup of tea as 702 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: I have grown older. So Ava being Adam in our case, 703 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's the thing, is, like, I want 704 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,479 Speaker 2: to go back in romance everybody, this is what's gonna 705 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: happen to me. 706 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: But I know that we were having real time revelation. 707 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about, my future, my future Ada. No, Yeah, 708 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: I absolutely felt the same way, and like, I think 709 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: I would stick to Adam when it comes to like 710 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: romance novels. I like the build up of the fighting 711 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: through also because I'm just a stubborn in real life, 712 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: but also it makes me there's something too just goating 713 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: a little bit in a good way, not mean mean, 714 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, Nate was my character. I try to flirt 715 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: with him, but in the being we're just friends. 716 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean he was a nice guy in 717 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: a non like internet mean way. He was actually a 718 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 2: nice guy, at least it seems. Who knows what happens later, 719 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: I do. I do love a good slow Burn. I 720 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: think part of that is because I often catch myself 721 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: reading Slowburn fan fiction, and I'm not in it for 722 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 2: the romance, but there's something kind of funny. 723 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: About it to me where they neither of them realize that. 724 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you fools, So that could be fun, 725 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: and you know, I'll see how this triangle plays out. 726 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 2: Maybe it will be really interesting. But I did, you 727 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: were right, you had it. You hit it on the head. 728 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: I wanted to be with Farah, so I guess I'll 729 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: have to go back. But I wanted to be with 730 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 2: Morgan too. 731 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: Yeah you did. You try to tell me both, and 732 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but fair I seemed to be 733 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: the one that would have gotten new Yeah. 734 00:37:48,640 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, agreed, and then Amanda continues Murphy bite the detective, 735 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: so the detective being you yes on the neck first 736 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: play through. 737 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 3: I was livid about this. 738 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: I thought I had done everything right, but it was 739 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: one mistake in not trusting my skills. I've had a 740 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 2: few variations to this, and some where there is no bite. 741 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: I definitely got bits, so. 742 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: I got it. I was mad too. 743 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: It's like, no, I just assumed it was an overall 744 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: like it has to happen so we can play through it. 745 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: But okay, apparently not. Oh gosh, now I want to 746 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: know what choice? Where did I go wrong? 747 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: Definitely happened to play back. Thanks a lot of money. 748 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: Gosh, thanks a lot, Amanda. 749 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: And then finally Murphy's fate, Amanda writes, captured. Not gonna lie, 750 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: Not entirely sure how I managed this on my first 751 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: play through, but must have been ecstatic, especially after suffering 752 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 2: a bite. I feel like most of the other games 753 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: I have done wind up with him running away. 754 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know he could. I assumed it will 755 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: automatic because yeah, I captured him too, I did too. 756 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: Did you sacrifice yourself to distract him? 757 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 758 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well? 759 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 2: And the thing, the choice I think I did incorrectly, 760 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: but I'm I don't regret it because it's totally true. 761 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: Was there was like one where she the detective had 762 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: the option of like healing herself and then because she 763 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: was pretty injured in my case, and then going in 764 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: and I ignored the healing and I was like, no, 765 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: we're going. 766 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: In like a thing. 767 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I should have taken that moment, 768 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: but yeah, I captured him. Uh. And then it sounds 769 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: like we're going to be working together U the Detective 770 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 2: and Unit Bramo and future projects because now you're the 771 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: detective is like a supernatural beacon and everybody wants a 772 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: piece of. 773 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's the thing. So yeah, because you know, 774 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: as the future. I'm like, oh, it just abruptly ended. 775 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: What happened, realizing it is a three parter, But I 776 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: was like, I assumed it would still like wrap up 777 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, and it kind of really didn't. So 778 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, what do I do with this? 779 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: But before we go there, I do want to know 780 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: because there's a part where you can get your personal information. 781 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: So I needed to know what your personality was because 782 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting for Kira Kingston. 783 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 2: For Kia Kingston, all right, personality sixty six percent charming 784 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 2: thirty four percent, intimidating fifty four percent, impulsive forty six percent, 785 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 2: cautious forty three percent, sarcastic fifty seven percent, genuine, friendly 786 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: sixty two percent, stoic thirty eight percent, easygoing sixty two percent, 787 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 2: stubborn thirty eight percent, heart, seventy eight percent mind twenty 788 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 2: two percent, optimist sixty seven percent pessimist thirty three percent, 789 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 2: team players seventy five percent independent twenty five percent. 790 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that sarcastic one through me. So my personality 791 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: chap for kra Lynn was charming fifty three percent, intimidating 792 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: forty seven percent because I'm not going back down, impulsive 793 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: fifty eight percent, while being cautious at forty two percent, 794 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: sarcastic thirty nine percent, while being genuine sixty one percent. 795 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, what friendly? I was forty 796 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: eight percent friendly, fifty two percent stoic, and then I 797 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: was forty eight percent easygoing, about fifty two percent stubborn, 798 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: which feels about right. And the traits. I'm eighty two 799 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: percent heart, eighteen percent mind, So okay, thanks, I'm fifty 800 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: five percent optimist, the forty five being the pessimist, and 801 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: then a fifty eight percent team player forty two percent independent. 802 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 3: Wow, there were some surprises in there. 803 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, your sarcastic was a little surprising. I'm not 804 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: gonna lie. It was fun. I was like building it up. 805 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: I was trying to be stoic because I am an observer. 806 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: That is something about always has been told like, I 807 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: will not react until I see what the environment is doing. 808 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: So therefore I probably would be seen as stoic because 809 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to especially in new situations, I'm not 810 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: going to react. I'm going to try to figure out 811 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: what's happening before I react and then go for it. 812 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: And I'm going to be reading as many people as possible, 813 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: So that could be a little more personality. But I'm 814 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: sarcastic as hell, so that's quite funny. 815 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 3: I think for me, I'm also an observer, but I 816 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 3: also very uh. 817 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: Once I get to know somebody, then my personality really 818 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 2: adapts to what they do. So I think I was 819 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 2: not sarcastic at all at the beginning, but then I 820 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: was like, oh, Morgan seems like she appreciates sarcasm. Maybe 821 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 2: Adam does, so I sort of adapted based on their 822 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: personality such as something I. 823 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 3: Do I don't. I think I might. 824 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I was sarcastic with her, but I was 825 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 2: much more like balanced with sarcasm and genuineness with her. 826 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: But I mean that is accurate. I think I kind 827 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 2: of adapted. Since you have multiple characters in there that 828 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate sor gas. That's where that came from. I 829 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: think overall you were more balanced than me, but that 830 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: you're yeah, definitely balanced heart versus mind was a bit shocking. 831 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: Because I was like, would be mean to these people? 832 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: I would be mean to the victim's mother. That's so ridiculous, Like, yeah, 833 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: it didn't make sense. What would I be mean to 834 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: Tina who fills a connection to this family? No, I'm 835 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 1: not going to be mean to these people. What's wrong 836 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: with you? 837 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? 838 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 2: And then I feel like looking through my because you 839 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 2: can also look at your relationship stats with the team. Yeah, 840 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: I actually like was way more friendly with everybody and 841 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 2: flirting wise. 842 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 3: Much less. 843 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so who are you? Who are you 844 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: most friendly with? 845 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: Nate? But Pharah was very close. Nate and Farah very close. 846 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: So they gave you points. Who was the flirt one? 847 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: The biggest flirt I had was Nate. I had six 848 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 2: flirting points with him and ten friend points with him. 849 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: Okay, oh wow, so yeah, for Adam I had six 850 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: flirting points, four friends. Nate I had one flirting point 851 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: seven friends. For Faarah, I had zero flirting points and 852 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: three friends, and for Morgan, I had zero flirting points 853 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: and two friends. Oh man, Morgan and I had the 854 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: least good relationship. 855 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 3: I was flirting all about, I was friend friending all about. 856 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 3: All of mine are like higher than that. 857 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, oh, I need to do more, which 858 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: is actually fair? Nah? 859 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 3: No, well, next playthrough, we'll revisit. I am curious about 860 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 3: the future. 861 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 2: What's gonna happen in the next book, And it's Amanda 862 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: fun for you because you already know. 863 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: But she knows, right. What are your predictions. 864 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be some other stronger supernatural force 865 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: and maybe another opposing government force, and they're gonna find out. 866 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: I think the secret's gonna get out of the bag 867 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: about your very special detective blood. 868 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: I feel like they're gonna synthesize our blood for the team. 869 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 3: Mmm mm hmm. I could see that. I could see that. Well, 870 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 3: I guess we'll see. 871 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. 872 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 3: Yes. 873 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Amanda for this. It was 874 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 2: so fun, and you were a hero and wrote these 875 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 2: questions and went way above and beyond what we asked. 876 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you for doing this, for sending 877 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: this to us. This is right up my alley as 878 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm discovering all these new phone games because yeah, I'm 879 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,479 Speaker 1: downloading so many more right now. I think I told 880 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: any that I'm doing like Find Your Object, Murder Mystery. 881 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: So come on, I need more suggestions because I'm loving 882 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: these and after I hit a certain point and I 883 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: can't win, I'm like, all right, I quit. So I 884 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: need new suggestions. 885 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 2: Noted, new suggestions where she won't quit because she can't wait. Yes, yes, 886 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: please send those are away because we do love them 887 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 2: and this was really fun and we hope that you 888 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 2: enjoyed it as well. You can email us at stephaniea 889 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 2: Mom steph atiheartmeia dot com. You can find us on 890 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: Twitter at Mom' stuff podcast or on Instagram at Stuff 891 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 2: I've Never Told You. Thanks as always to our super 892 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 2: producer Christina. 893 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: Christina, have you done this because we need you to 894 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: do this? 895 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, I would love a comparison of stats, Christina, 896 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 2: And thanks to you for listening stuff One told you 897 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: the prodection of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from my 898 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 2: heart Radio, you can visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, 899 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 2: or where you listen to your favorite shows.