1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm just about that Action boss. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 3: All right. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Here we go from throwing out so I'm sitting up 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: to cash stop. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: That's all we see. Most gamblers when they go to gamble, 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: they go to wind. That's incredible. Big bank, small banks. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: I like to make money. All right? This is the 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: ultimate kabine. You want to. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: Pass and we are underway. What is up? 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast Papa Paluza Part two. 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: This is Chris Raybond here of Action Network and Fantasy Labs, 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: and today we're going three props deep with my guy, 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Sean Kerner, the odds maker, and a very special guest 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: of the program, old friend of the program, the head 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: of betting from Matthew Berry's Fantasy Life, Matthew Friedman. You 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: can find them on x at matt fd Oracle Friedman. 18 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe this is the seventh Propa Palooza we 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: have done together. Shout out to production team for actually 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: finding that stat for bothering to count and go that 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: deep in the archives. And rumor has it that I 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: am actually the person who created the phrase Propa palooza. 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't take credit or anything like. That's 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: not what I'm looking for. I'm just saying that's a 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: historical fact kind of interesting. 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean, just have your lawyers call Actions lawyers and 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: make sure you get compensated for that. I didn't know that, 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: but Na, we'll get into our three props each. 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In the YouTube chat, we'll be giving 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: you easy to use links that you can use to 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: instantly tail our bets, and as soon as we wrap, 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: we'll also drop a link in the episode description that 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: also gives you access to all of the picks that 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: we give out on the show. Freedman, you're hitting the 51 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: leadoff what you got? All right? 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: It feels very shocky to be like, hey, guys, I 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: think Jalen Hurts is going to score a touchdown. But 54 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: I think Jalen Hurts is going to score a touchdown, 55 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: and I would like your thoughts on the touchdown market 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: in general. I have sensed that over the past couple 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: of years there has been this trend where the guys 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: who like on the spectrum are relatively likely to score 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: a touchdown, their odds have generally tended to be undervalued, 60 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: and the guys who aren't as likely to score touchdowns 61 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: their odds haven't been as long as they should have been. 62 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: And I have, you know, some general thoughts as to 63 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 2: why that might be the case. Probably not the time 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: on this show to talk about it, but I think 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts minus one ten at DraftKings. I believe that 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: he is undervalued there. I have him projected for zero 67 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: point seventy three touchdowns in this game, minus won sixty 68 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: to score a touchdown. In eighteen games this year, he 69 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: has eighteen touchdowns. The math kind of checks out there 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: touchdowns and twelve of eighteen games, so a sixty six 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: point seven percent hit rate. And if you just kind 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: of look at what Jalen Hurts has done in the 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: Tush Push era, like that hit rate makes a lot 74 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: of sense because they use him a ton at the 75 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: goal line with minus one ten odds that has an 76 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: implied probability of fifty two point four percent. You compare 77 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: that to the historical hit rate the Jalen Hurts has 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: had and getting into the end zone. I think there's 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: just some extra value here. And it's not as if 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: the total for this game is like thirty eight and 81 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,559 Speaker 2: a half points, Like this is a very respectable total 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: of forty eight and a half. Forty nine points touchdowns 83 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 2: will be scored in this game, and if that happens, 84 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: I think we see Jalen Hurts as one of the 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 2: guys who is likeliest to find the end zone. Jalen 86 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: Hurts anytime touchdown minus one ten. Again, I think this 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: should be closer to minus one sixty minus one sixty five. 88 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: So I do like this bet right here. I will 89 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: admit it's like Chalky, but I just don't think it's 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: it's short enough odds. 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point on you know the touchdown 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: market in general, it generally because you don't have the 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: no component until now because it is the Super Bowl, 94 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: which is a little tease for what's upcoming, but usually 95 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: don't have the no component to the bet. So I 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: think the entire market tends to be inflated. I feel 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: like this specific postseason, it's been a couple of guys 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: for me that like I kept coming back to, like 99 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: each and every week, uh Becau xavier' Worthy. I feel 100 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: like every week has been undervalued. Kareem Hunt, Games Cook 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: on the Bills. So there's been a few guys Sean, 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: any thoughts just on the on the general touchdown market 103 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: or the math there before we jump into the next pick. 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: No, I'm right there with you. With Xavier Worthy still 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: showing value, I think that's just like projecting him for 106 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: one to two rush attempts, like that's a big deal. 107 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: They get him involved around the goal line, but I 108 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 4: don't want to get ahead of myself. We have our 109 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: touchdown show tomorrow. I might want to use him then. 110 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: So he's already in the outline. I already took them. Sorry, 111 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: oh dam you already took him. Okay, that's that's all. 112 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about him now. I'm comfortable. Baby got 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: my eye. 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: Though. 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Man, well now, I mean now it's too late. Now 116 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: everyone's hearing this, and then might as don't just quick 117 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: slip that, guys, But all right, I'll go. I'll let 118 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: you go. Last year, I want you pull it out, 119 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: so I'll go next. And Friedman, this correlates perfectly. I 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't plan this. But this correlates perfectly with 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: your bet. And as probably everyone watching knows, I love 122 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: betting no on things and betting unders, and the Super 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: Bowl is pretty much the only time when you can 124 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: bet on players not to score a touchdown. So my pick, say, 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: kun Markley, Baby, we're going full shade kwon here not 126 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: to score a touchdown plus one fifty five. Just the 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: ridiculous number. First of all, he's failed to score in 128 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: nine of his nineteen games this year. That's forty seven 129 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: point four percent. That's with the Eagles averaging twenty nine 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: zero point four points per game in the games that 131 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: he played. In this game, Philadelphia's implied to score between 132 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: twenty three and twenty four points, So automatically, you shouldn't 133 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: be seeing odds this high now if you just look 134 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: at it from kind of a schematic perspective, only six 135 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: of Barkley's eighteen rushing scores this year have come from 136 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line. Jalen Hurts has sixteen such touchdowns, 137 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: pretty much all of them. If they get to the one, 138 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: or even the two, maybe sometimes even the three, they'll 139 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: just do a couple of touch pushes in a row. 140 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: So Barkley is essentially going to need or most likely 141 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: going to need an explosive touchdown to get there, which 142 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: obviously very possible if we've been watching the playoffs, But 143 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: we know that the Chiefs defense, while they haven't faced 144 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: a strong schedule, neither has Barkley. The Chiefs defense giving 145 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: up the seventh lowest explosive rush rate this year, including 146 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: the postseason, It's around ten percent. So I'm projecting no 147 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: touchdown for bark We are much shorter odds about plus 148 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: one twenty four here, so I love this at plus 149 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: one fifty five. This is just a glorious, glorious time 150 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: of year when we can bet no on the always 151 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: inflated touchdown market. I was about to have just three 152 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: no touchdowns, but I feel I felt like people would 153 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't love that too much, So I'm gonna diversify. I 154 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: don't worry, but Sean next, I don't know how you 155 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: follow that up. 156 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know how I follow it up. Well, 157 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we can finally bet no one touchdowns 158 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 4: are a player not to score. We've also just had 159 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy one NFL games this year where 160 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: you weren't able to bet on a punter prop. So 161 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: naturally I'm gonna have to kick it off here with 162 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: a punter prop. 163 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with Matt Riiza, the punt God. 165 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: His shortest punt over thirty nine and a half yards, 166 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: you can get it at minus oneh eight, But fifty 167 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: five of his nine sixty one punts this year, so 168 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: ninety percent of the time his punts went forty yards 169 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 4: or longer. On the season, Week fifteen, against the Browns, 170 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: he had nine punts in a cold, rainy windy Cleve. 171 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: I don't know what they call that stadium, but Cleveland 172 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: Stadium where he had three punts failed to clear forty yards. 173 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: That accounted for half of his six total punts on 174 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 4: the season that didn't clear forty plus yards. So because 175 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: of that, he only had four of nineteen games this 176 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: year where he had a punt goes shorter than thirty 177 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 4: nine a half yards, So that means he would have 178 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: cashed this prop seventy nine percent of the time this season. 179 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, you know, being indoors here probably helps raise 180 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: his floor and lowers his ceiling a bit because he's 181 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: not going to be punting against the wind or with 182 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 4: the wind, So I just think he's going to have 183 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: a higher floor, which this market is basically, you know, 184 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: a floor market. So I have his medium being closer 185 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: to forty one and a half, but those two yards 186 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: are massive in a market like this, So I give 187 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: him about sixty five percent chance his shortest punt is 188 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: forty plus yards or longer. Some books have forty and 189 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: a half. I still like that. I have that clearing 190 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: or not clearing whatever fifty eight percent of the time, 191 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 4: so I like over thirty nine and a half and 192 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: you can get if you get forty and a half. 193 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: I like that as well. There you go. I mean, 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: this is this is very unbrand. 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This is now minus 237 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: one fourteen at DraftKings, I have this projected at forty. 238 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: The matchup is tough. The Eagles are number two in 239 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: defensive rush EPA this year, and the Chiefs running game 240 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: has really struggled ever since they moved Joe Toney, their 241 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 2: first team All Pro left guard, ever since they moved 242 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: him to left tackle in week fifteen, which with him 243 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: at left tackle, that means they are playing Mike Calliendo 244 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: just you know, a backup to the backup. They're playing 245 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: him at left guard, and they're just not getting the 246 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: interior push the way that they previously were. And Tony, 247 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: as good of a player as he is, he is 248 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: playing out of position and so they're still not able 249 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: to do all that they would probably want to do 250 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: when they run to the outside. So that running game 251 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: in general is just diminished with Tony playing at left tackle, 252 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: and you know, Kareem Hunt, older guy. Later in the season, 253 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: just you know, the efficiency is declining. So even though 254 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: he is the lead back in that offense right now, 255 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 2: I just don't think he's going to have the efficiency 256 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: that he would need to go over forty four and 257 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: a half. So sorry, so forty four and a half 258 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: minus one fourteen DraftKings, uh, one of my favorite. I 259 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: mean it's it's not it's not like a sexy prop. 260 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: It's not a puncher prop. It's not betting a guy 261 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: not to score a touchdown. It's just being a wet 262 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: blanket of like, no, I don't think this guy's gonna 263 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: get enough yards. 264 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Brebn. It's just funny because Sean and 265 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: I have been debating this. I feel like, like going 266 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: back even into the regular season, like do we just 267 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: who do we fade? Yeah? Like who do we fade? 268 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: And it's the answer is usually p Checo. But like 269 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: in this game, I think we are at a point 270 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: where I've already bet the Chiefs team total rushing yards 271 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: under I think one fifteen and the total game combined 272 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: rushing yards under to eighty five. So I agree. I 273 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: just think the rushing yardage market for the Chiefs is inflated, 274 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: like wh who's getting all of these yards, Like in 275 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: the fact that they he didn't move Tuney back to guard, 276 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: which was I thought, you know, maybe they considered because 277 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: you have that beast of an interior line for the Eagles, 278 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he would be more useful at guard. 279 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: But the fact that they're keeping him at tackle kind 280 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: of shows they're prioritizing the passing game. And I agree 281 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Toney is like a fifty something run blocking great at tackle, 282 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: and Cali Yendo's the same thing. So you're getting worse 283 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: at both spots. 284 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: And here's here's one thing I will add to this 285 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: idea of sort of blanket fading across the board the Chiefs. 286 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: I would say, if you look in the SGP markets 287 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: and looking at the correlation, I would be interested to 288 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: see how it is that the books price some of 289 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: these things out, because I could see how a sportsbook 290 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: might say, like Okay, Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco are 291 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: inversely correlated, where if one of these guys hits the over, 292 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: the other one is likely to hit the under. But 293 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: there's also the possibility that the Chiefs just go super 294 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: pass heavy, or that the Chiefs are in a really 295 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: tough matchup, and that actually, if Kareem Hunt goes under, 296 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: Pacheco could also go under, and that could be correlated 297 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: just because of the matchup in the game state the 298 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: way the Chiefs are approaching it. So I would say, 299 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: like I would kind of be interested in looking in 300 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: the SGP markets and getting in a sense for how 301 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: different books price, you know, the correlation between different runners. 302 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't forget super Bowl fifty six says, never 303 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: forget samajp Ryan is still still here, so he could 304 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: just be the pass down back. Oh Man, But no, 305 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: I agree. I think the Chiefs are overpriced in the 306 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: in the run game. I think Mahomes is probably a 307 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: good shot to lead that team in rushing. Actually, I 308 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: don't know if I've seen that prop just for the Chiefs, 309 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: but if I did, I would probably bet Mahomes. There 310 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: probably more on Mahomes later as a runner. By the way, 311 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: that's what we call it tease folks. All right, I'm 312 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: on next. My second pick is going to be more 313 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: field goals combined by both teams made in this game 314 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: than passing touchdowns are thrown at plus one thirty. You 315 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: can find this on DraftKings in the Super Bowl Special 316 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: Game head to head special section. So if you look 317 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: at the Chiefs in eighteen my home starts this year, 318 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: there's been more combined field goals ten times and more 319 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: pass touchdowns five times, with three times they were tied. 320 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: And then for the Eagles in eighteen Jalen Hurts starts, 321 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: there are more combined field goals than passing touchdowns eleven times, 322 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: more passing touchdowns than field goals only three times, and 323 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: it was tied four times. So overall fifty eight percent 324 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: of the time, which would equate to minus one forty eyes. 325 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: And remember you're getting this at plus one thirty that 326 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: would equate to minus one forty. It's happened combined between 327 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: the two teams. I am projecting in my model just 328 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: over three and a half field goals made and about 329 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: four point two attempts, so there's upside for even more there. 330 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: And I have just under three combined passing touchdown so 331 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: I bet this two about minus one twenty here, but 332 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: love that we're still getting plus money on this one. 333 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: So this is another kind of example of just in general, 334 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I think it's the Super Bowl. People want to people 335 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: want to see offense, so the offensive markets in general, 336 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: are you know, kind of inflated? So you know, I know, 337 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: I've kind of bet some unders on some rushing stuff 338 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: and whatnot, but there's also some passing game stuff to fade, 339 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: and I suspect, you know, a lot of these numbers 340 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: will go while we go up as we as we 341 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: approach the game. 342 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: Ravens, I love this, and I have a couple of 343 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: questions here, So or like an idea like the fifty 344 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: eight point three percent historical hit rate, I'm imagining that 345 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: has like a combination of indoor and outdoor games. The 346 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: fact that this is an indoor game I think helps 347 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: way more the field goal kickers than the possibility of 348 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: more passing touchdowns. So I mean, I think if you 349 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: were looking at just indoor games, that number of fifty 350 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: eight point three percent would probably be even higher. 351 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and i've you're looking at a guy that's already 352 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: bet under two and a half combined passing touchdowns that 353 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: some plus money. I forget the exact number, but at 354 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: plus money. And I also bet no miskicks because all 355 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: of Elliott's miskicks except for one, have been outdoors this year. 356 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of things kind of work in 357 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: favor here, and I think a lot of people, a 358 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: lot of sharper money's coming in on the under I'm 359 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: in agreement with that as well, So it could just 360 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: a little inflation just because of that as well. But nevertheless, 361 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: let's go to Sean for pick number two. 362 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 4: What you got, Well, you know what, I liked Friedman's 363 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: props so much, I'm going to piggyback it a bit here. 364 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 4: I'm meant to go with Kareem Hunt under eight and 365 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: a half rushing yards in the first quarter at minus 366 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 4: one ten. You know, despite Isaiah Pacheco returning the action. 367 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 4: You know, in week thirteen, this is when Raybaugh and 368 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 4: I started debating Chiefs backfield every week since then, you know, 369 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: Kareem Hunts remained the Chiefs lead back. However, the first quarter, 370 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: there's any quarter they get Isaiah Pacheco, of all, it's 371 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: the first quarter. He's handled forty three percent of the 372 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 4: rush attempts in the first quarter, Hunt just thirty four percent. Obviously, 373 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: that's trending the other way. I'm expecting Hunt to get 374 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: a little bit more than that going forward. But you know, 375 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 4: they just tend to use Hunt at a high rate 376 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: later in the game. Once the defense is worn down 377 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: a bit and or they're trying to protect a lead. 378 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: Also the first quarters when they tend to give Xavier 379 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: Worthy his rush attempts too. He's He's had ten percent 380 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: of rush attempts in the first quarter dating back to 381 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 4: week thirteen. So they're just looking the ways to catch 382 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: the defense off card. I don't know if the game 383 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: plan will be to bang it up the middle for 384 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: two three yards with Kareem Hunt right away. That's more 385 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: of a game flow type plan in my opinion. So 386 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: since week thirteen, Hunts averaged nine point nine rushing yards 387 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: in the first quarter, but he stayed under eight and 388 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: a half yards in five of those seven games, so 389 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 4: seventy one percent of the time. It's sort of a 390 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: lesson of mean versus median because the two games he 391 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: did clear it, he went way over. He had thirty 392 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: four yards and eighteen yards in those two games. So 393 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: I guess I have, you know, a twenty nine percent chance, 394 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 4: look like an idiot here, But most of the time 395 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: he tends to stay under eight and a half. His 396 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: median is actually five and a half for the first 397 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: quarter over this stretch. So everything that Freeman said, I 398 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 4: agree with the Eagles. You know, they have a good 399 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: run defense, they rank second in DBA. But the Eagles 400 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: offense is also extremely run heavy. Exp I expect them 401 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: to be run heavy out of the gate, so they're 402 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: gonna be able to bleed clock, really limit the number 403 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: of plays that the Chiefs can even run in the 404 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 4: first quarter. So I think that helps here. So I'm 405 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: projecting Hunt for about two point three rush attempts in 406 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 4: the first quarter. That gets me a median of six 407 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 4: and a half yards. Every yard in this market is massive, 408 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: So under eight and a half I have hitting around 409 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: sixty percent of the time. Some books have seven and 410 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: a half. I have that hitting under fifty five percent 411 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: of the time. So love Hunt to stay under eight 412 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: and a half rushing yards in the first quarter. 413 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: You guys are making me nervous now. We do this 414 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: every week. We were like, all right, Hunts the guy 415 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: to fade, and he's just not. It's Pacheco. But hopefully, 416 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: like I said, I agree, I think that I think 417 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: that these markets are overvalued and for what it's worth, 418 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: yeah that the Chiefs for Checko's still the starter. It's 419 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: just I don't think they go away from because the 420 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: defense is worn down. I think they get worn down 421 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: with watching Pacheco just run into the backs of his 422 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: a lignemen or fall down right as he catches up past. 423 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there, Friedman. Let's close it 424 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: out with each of our third picks. You're up first, 425 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: which you got, all right? 426 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm looking at Patrick Mahomes under twenty nine and a 427 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: half rushing yards. This is minus one oh seven At DraftKings, 428 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: I was projected for twenty four point seven. So some 429 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: thoughts on this, And I will say, I actually do 430 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: want to know what you guys think about this, because 431 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: like there's a chance, you know, Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, 432 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: super Bowl on the line, willing to run a little 433 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 2: bit more, Andy Reid, willing to call some designed rushing 434 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: plays a little bit more for Patrick Mahomes. So like, 435 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: there's the chance that this just this number is just 436 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: wrong and Mahomes goes for like forty five yards and 437 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: I'm just a loser on this one. But only two 438 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: quarterbacks have gone over this number against the Eagles, Jaden 439 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: Daniels he did it twice, and Lamar Jackson. So pretty much, 440 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: if you're not like one of the two best rushing 441 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the league. You know you haven't been able 442 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: to hit this mark against the Eagles. Mahomes has gone 443 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: over this number of twenty nine and a half just 444 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: four games this year. Mahomes's line was twenty three and 445 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: a half for the AFC Championship, twenty nine and a 446 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: half and thirty and a half where I bet it 447 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: earlier in the week, But twenty nine and a half 448 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: would still be the highest mark that Mahomes has had 449 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: in this market this year. I mean, if you're telling 450 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: me that I can bet a guy at the highest 451 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: mark that he's had at any point this year, I'm 452 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: probably going to just auto bet the under on it, 453 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: even if I do know that there could be some 454 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: reasonable reasons for his number to move up. But this 455 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: just feels like something of an overreaction to what we 456 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: saw out of Mahomes last game, where he had a 457 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: season high eleven carries and had like sixty something yards rushing. 458 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: I think this just feels like too aggressive of a move. 459 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: And I will also say one thing that really intrigues 460 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: me is if you wanted to put this into an SGP, 461 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: you could take the over on Mahomes rushing attempt prop 462 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: of five and a half and take the under on 463 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: this and you could get some really sweet in verse 464 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: correlation going there. But the thing is, like Mahomes could 465 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: kneel down at the end of the game a couple 466 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: of times, which would be awesome for both of those 467 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: legs to have a chance of hitting here. So I 468 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: think even if you just kind of want to do 469 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: the under of twenty nine and a half rushing yards 470 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: minus one oh seven a DraftKings, I think that's fine. 471 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: But I really do like the idea of going under 472 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: twenty nine and a half and going Patrick Mahomes to 473 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: have six or more rushing attempts in this game and 474 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: that gets you up to plus four to twenty five 475 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: in an SGP at DraftKings. And I think both of 476 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: those legs have a pretty decent chance of hitting and 477 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: that the book is mispricing the correlation of those two 478 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: different legs. 479 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: Don any thoughts on where you're at with with Mahomes 480 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: and is rushing numbers. 481 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm right around there. We've talked about his scrambling 482 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 4: rate just goes way up in the playoffs. So I 483 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: kind of agree with Freeman that the market knows that, 484 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: so they're kind of inflating his number a ton here 485 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: and just yeah, you kind of want the Chiefs to win, 486 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: you need kneel downs, but with Mahomes, you know most 487 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 4: quarterbacks and kneel down for minus If there's anybody that 488 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 4: you can you know, if you need like a minus 489 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: five minus ten yard kneel down. 490 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the guy. 491 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: That's how I think a couple of us yeash that 492 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 4: under a few years ago. So you with Mahomes, you 493 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 4: always have that, uh in the back pocket just in case. 494 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: But yeah, I do think this number is a bit 495 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 4: in play because everybody knows that he runs more in 496 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 4: the playoffs. So uh yeah, yeah, I agree for you 497 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 4: in here. 498 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: I think it's as as with a lot of things 499 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: in this game, it's gonna come down to that that 500 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: chess match between the quarterback and the opposing defensive coordinator. 501 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: Because last game, what what happened was Buffalo, known as 502 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: a zone team, ended up playing a lot more man coverage. 503 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: And you know, Mahomes is running around a little bit now, Fangio. 504 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: He's kind of done it both ways. Like I don't 505 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: think he's gonna blitz, but you know, he's kind of 506 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: done it where he's played you know, man coverage because 507 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: he has the horses, but he's also played he likes 508 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: to play zone, and Mahomes has struggled, especially on third 509 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: downs against some of those like Cover A quarters coverage 510 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: and Cover six kind of schemes, that zone scheme that 511 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: Fangio likes to run. So that that actually might be 512 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: just a point, you know, kind of keep Mahomes in 513 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: the pocket and make them, you know, just make some 514 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: throws against zone with these with these receivers that some 515 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: of them, you know, he hasn't played with all that long. 516 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's the chest. I think that's ultimately 517 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: going to determine it. Like if they're just turning and running, 518 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: I would be scared of this prop like Neil downs 519 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: or not, just because you know Mahomes. But but what 520 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: you do have working for you is a lot of 521 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: times when Mahomes scrambling around back there, you know what happens. 522 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: The referees are like Kansas City needs to win penalty 523 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: and the play is just nullified. So yeah, things working 524 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: in your favor as well. I think the longest Harry, 525 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: I think it's thirteen and a half for Mahomes under 526 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: That's also interesting because I'm showing like sixty percent chance 527 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: of him going under that one sixty one percent. So 528 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: I've thought about it as well. We'll see see how it, 529 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: see if his market moves further up coaches of the game. 530 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna for my last pick, I'm gonna go 531 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: with no interceptions in this game. So plus two hundred. 532 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: You can find this the DraftKings first of the game, 533 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: first turnover, and then you go to the players and 534 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: then you click no player to get an interception. I'm 535 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: sure there's other places to find similar prop, but that's 536 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: where I found it. So it's at plus two hundred. 537 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: Now let's look at this. Mahomes started the year throwing 538 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: an interception, and each of his first seven games started 539 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: since then just once in his past eleven games has 540 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: Mahomes thrown a pick. None in his last eight. Jalen 541 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: Hurts kind of the same story. He famously, you know, 542 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: threw those four picks in his first three games, and 543 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: then then I think you know, shortly after that they 544 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: had to buy they discussed, all right, let's be more conservative, 545 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: and the interceptions just disappeared. One pick for Jalen Hurts 546 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: and his last fifteen games started, and I wanted those starts. 547 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: He left early, so you could call it fourteen. But 548 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: either way, these quarterbacks have combined for no interceptions in 549 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: their last sixteen the seventeen games started compared depending on 550 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: what you want to treat that Hurts game as. And 551 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: then they've combined for just two games with interceptions over 552 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: their last twenty six combined start. So these guys are 553 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: really taking care of the ball. Both of these teams 554 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: cover well and can place the man covered, so there 555 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: will be some close calls. But you know, the Eagles, 556 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: I think they're going to come out and run the 557 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: ball as much as they can early on. And the 558 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: Chiefs with that quicker passing game, the fact that Mahomes 559 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: doesn't just go deep ball hunting these days, and Fangio's 560 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: defense is built to protect that anyway. You know, So 561 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: this this this offense is just a lot more dink 562 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: and dunk efficient, which means fewer chances for interceptions. And 563 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have done, I think a good job over 564 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: the last two postseasons kind of consolidating the guys they're targeting. 565 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: Even so you're seeing mostly like Chelsea Worthy, and you 566 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: know that's you know, that's really it. So those guys 567 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: we should trust for the most part, I are Worthy 568 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: almost gave went up last week. But yeah, I think 569 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: that this is still at two to one. Pretty interesting, 570 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: pretty intriguing number here. I bet it's about minus one 571 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: eighty about plus one eighty five. Excuse me? So like this, 572 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: like both of these quarterbacks not to throw a pick 573 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: in this game. 574 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: I like this, Raybon, I like this one. I think 575 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: one thing that also, I mean, this is like qualitative. 576 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: But one thing I also like is that both of 577 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks have played in the super Bowl before, Like 578 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't think you're as likely to get sort of 579 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: like those early game jitters where a guy just like 580 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: makes an absolute trash throw because he's nervous, Like you 581 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: have two veterans who have been in this spot before, 582 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: and I think that helps. 583 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I was really surprised on that 584 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: topic just how poorly the Bills came out against the 585 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: Chiefs on their first series last week. I was like, Yo, 586 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: this Goill team has been so well schemed all year, 587 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: Like whatever they were doing with the spread it around, 588 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: it was working, and it came out and Josh Allen's 589 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: just looking around and he threw I think almost threw 590 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: two picks on like the first two plays the game. 591 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: And then Washington's defense on the first run play they 592 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: get they get faked out and give off like there 593 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: are just some bad, you know, kind of jitters that 594 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: we saw in the championship games. But that's a good 595 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: point for you've been in this game. These guys have 596 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: been there, they've done it. So yeah, not expecting a 597 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: pick here, but Sean, you're closing us out here in 598 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: the three hole, third pick? Whatich you got? 599 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: All right? 600 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 4: Well, it wouldn't be a problem lose. It was just 601 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: one punter prop. So I have another one for you guys. 602 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: Will there be a punt to result in a touchback? 603 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: Did I even word that right? 604 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: Yes? 605 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: There will be a punt that results in a touchback? 606 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 4: Plus one point thirty. This game actually features the two 607 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: punters with the highest touchback rate in the league. Matt 608 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: Riza seventeen percent to punt god is the highest in 609 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 4: the league and braid Man, the Eagles punter, ranked second 610 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: with a fourteen percent touch back rate and Ray Boutan 611 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 4: You'll love this, I dug in touchback rate tends to 612 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 4: regress heavily towards the league average of eight percent, so 613 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: I'm not expecting them to be anywhere near these ridiculous 614 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 4: rates going forward. But I did notice two of the 615 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 4: more predictive underlying factors when it comes to touch back 616 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 4: rate are how often a punter kicks out of bounds 617 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: and how often you know their opponents call for a 618 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: fair catch. And both punters are extreme in at least 619 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 4: one of those stats. The Punt God has yet to 620 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 4: kick a punt out of bounds all season. His zero 621 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: percent out of bounds rate ranks as the lowest in 622 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: the league. No one else has that. The league average 623 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: is around ten percent. So if you think about it, 624 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: anytime a punt's kicked out of bounds, in theory, it 625 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: can't be a touchback. So he's never kicking it out 626 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 4: of bounds. So in theory, every time he punts the ball, 627 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: there's a chance it. 628 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: Could be a touchback. 629 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: So I think his touchback rate will be fairly sticky 630 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 4: going forward because this is clearly his. And when it 631 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 4: comes to braid Man, he has the second lowest fair 632 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 4: catch rate. Just fourteen percent of his punts result in 633 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 4: a fair catch. Lee gaverage is twenty seven percent, so 634 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: he tends to have a high percentage of his punts 635 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 4: that get down by his own team, the second highest rate. 636 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 4: So what he's doing, he's punting it the returners, you know, 637 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: not touching it, and the balls is rolling towards the 638 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 4: end zone and his teammates either down it before it 639 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 4: rolls in the end zone or it rolls in the 640 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 4: end zone for a touchback. So they have two very 641 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: sticky reasons why they're touchback rate should be higher than 642 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: Lee gaverage going forward. So I'm not showing a ton 643 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: of value on this. I have this closer to pick them, 644 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: So I love it at plus one thirty. But another 645 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: reason to never look away from your TV, even these 646 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: punts where we're going to be rooting for a touchback 647 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: at some point in the game. 648 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: Now, I'm just sad that, like this is the last 649 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: game for six eight months, we can't bet, and we 650 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: can't for a year. We're not gonna be able to 651 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: bet punter props again. Maybe maybe they'll normalize punter props 652 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: like like you know how like they like tackle in 653 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: the cysts props are now a lot more every week 654 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: you get them. Uh you know, maybe they'll maybe they 655 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: can just start normalizing these these punter props because no touchdowns, 656 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: right yeah, oh my god if yeah, no touchdowns, that's 657 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: the priority sports books. If you're listening, but a close 658 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: second punter props and listen, I mean, Sean just gave 659 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: y'all the model right there. So don't don't don't get 660 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: don't get scared that your numbers aren't gonna be good. 661 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: You know, just just post those props and we'll let 662 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: us decide that is Dad isn't gonna do it. For 663 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: another quite eventful propapalooza. Thank you again, uh Friedman for 664 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: joining us. He is Matthew Friedman, the head of betting 665 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: at Matthew Berry's Fantasy Wife. You can find him on 666 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: X at Matt f The Oracle. You can find Sean 667 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: Kerner on X at The Underscore Od's Maker at Chris raybaon. 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