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Speaker 1: Giants and what's Super Bowl forty? Hello everybody, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to episode number eight of Papa's Perspective, presented by Bob's

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Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. I am John schmil joined

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Speaker 1: as always by the Voice of the Giants, that is

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Speaker 1: Bob Popa. As a reminder, Poppa's Perspective can be found

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Speaker 1: Mr Papa, how are you, sir? Eagles Week, Baby Eagles Week?

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Speaker 1: Giants going to Philadelphia, Yes, which is has not been

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Speaker 1: a fun place to play over the last decade or

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Speaker 1: so for the Giants, but we have we have pulled

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Speaker 1: some really good games here Bob, from earlier in the

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Speaker 1: two thousands that are exciting. Well. Yeah, and you know

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Speaker 1: That's why, um, you know you have the stray hand

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Speaker 1: called for a false start snap on the ball. So

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Speaker 1: now instead of third and six at the it's third

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Speaker 1: and eleven, and you're like, all right, I gotta make

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Speaker 1: a play here, and the Giants do with a walk off.

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Speaker 1: Fanning at a shotgun third and eleven drops back, lits On,

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Speaker 1: heaves it left for Plexico first, who makes the catch

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown. First, just beat Soldier broad for a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: and the Giant of one and over time and they

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Speaker 1: come on the field in Matt matting eight sacks, hit

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Speaker 1: a thousand times, big plays Plexico with the touchdown. It's

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite games against the Eagles that I've called,

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Speaker 1: especially down in Philadelphia. So the Giants win that one,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I'm we're going to two thousand and eight

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Speaker 1: regular season. Now, remember two thousand eight, The Giants are

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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL. They're kicking ass and

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Speaker 1: taking names, and they the o A team. Coughin will

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Speaker 1: tell you anybody that was on that team, that was

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Speaker 1: the best team of all of them, best team I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Best New York Giants team that we've seen. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you, you know. I did

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Speaker 1: see the ninety Giants, you know, and I obviously watched

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Speaker 1: the eighties six Giants, but I was working with the

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Speaker 1: ninety Giants. But this oh eight team was just They're phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: They would not just win games, Bob, they would physically

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Speaker 1: dominate opponents week after week and literally pound them into

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Speaker 1: the ground on bull sides of the ball. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: remember again, um, the Giants and the Steelers beat the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in the Super Bowl in Tampa that year. The

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Speaker 1: Giants beat both of those teams on the road that year.

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Speaker 1: Did the Giants beat all four teams that were in

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Speaker 1: the championship games too? That Yeah? They meet everybody. Um,

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Speaker 1: but Philadelphia would go and win a giant stadium after

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Speaker 1: the Plexicote thing. But Burrs was playing. It's December the

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Speaker 1: ninth Lincoln Financial Field and the New York Giants are

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Speaker 1: just you know, getting things done. But but I will

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Speaker 1: say this, Uh, the game did not start out the

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Speaker 1: way the previous couple of years had started out on

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Speaker 1: games in Philadelphia where the Giants went down on the

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Speaker 1: first drive and scored. Giants in and offset. I right,

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Speaker 1: Eagles show blitz manning back pumps over the middle class

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Speaker 1: to peck at and intercepted by the Eagle running at

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Speaker 1: the twenties to the pick team and knocked down at

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Speaker 1: the ten yard line. Is Mike Patterson? Oh yeah, Boss,

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Speaker 1: wide up and over the middle. It got tipped at.

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Speaker 1: Patterson gets his can career interception. You have the guy

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Speaker 1: in the p A helping in the background there, you

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Speaker 1: know what, like Patterson for you, Big Mike Patterson. Uh,

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Speaker 1: defensive line. It was a stud. This was a Sunday

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Speaker 1: night football game on NBC, you know, because this rivalry

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Speaker 1: was pretty heated. Um, and I remember there was so

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Speaker 1: much buzz about the Shawan Jackson. You know he was

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Speaker 1: he was just new in the league. He could catch it,

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Speaker 1: he could return punts, he could return kicks, he could

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Speaker 1: honest fast and Uh after that interception, Eagles started the

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Speaker 1: Giant nine yard line second ago at the nine to

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Speaker 1: Shawn Jackson right around the right end, nine yard touchdown run,

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Speaker 1: direct snap to him, and Philadelphia is up seven nothing.

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Speaker 1: So they're feeling like, hey, Deshan Jackson, that's the new

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Speaker 1: thing for us, that's our new answer to the Giants.

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Speaker 1: But the Giants respond and uh come up big on

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Speaker 1: a third down in Philadelphia territory. To get this game tied,

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Speaker 1: Manning get a shotgun set Scott first to his left,

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Speaker 1: split ward to the act field as a protector. Man

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Speaker 1: It takes the snap back to throw, has time throws

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Speaker 1: it again so for burst touchdown Giants, and just like that,

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Speaker 1: the big luego eighty yards. Lexico Burns gets his fourth

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Speaker 1: touchdown catch of the season. And remember he just dominated

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. It's just what he did. Dominot the Eagles

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Boss had a big twenty two yard catch

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Speaker 1: on the drive on a third and one. So the

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Speaker 1: Giants tie it up really quickly, stabilized the game, and

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Speaker 1: then they get to play out of their special teams.

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Speaker 1: Times sends it high to the far side. Demps from

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Speaker 1: his own four the years leapt to the twenty hit

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Speaker 1: knock Paul's loose. All the ground picked up by the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and the Giants have it at the fifteen yard line.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that now we've had a Will

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Speaker 1: Demps and a Quintin Demps reference on the same podcast.

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Speaker 1: Not bad. Yeah, and Chase Blackburn recovered it um and

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Speaker 1: you know who forced that fumble a mod Bradshaw because

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Speaker 1: remember it's only a second year. Yeah, it's only a

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Speaker 1: second year. So the Giants start at the Eagles third team,

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Speaker 1: but they don't do much with it, so Carney kicks

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Speaker 1: h seven yard field goal. Giants have the lead. So

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Speaker 1: the Giants hold Philadelphia the three and out after the

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Speaker 1: Carney field goal, but they got a nice drive going. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They don't even face any third downs until the last

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Speaker 1: play of the third quarter, which sets up a score

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Speaker 1: to put the Giants up ten. One set left. Hickson, Tumor,

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Speaker 1: and Smith play clock at seven man and colleague signals.

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Speaker 1: Takes the snap, steps up, grows to the end zone,

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Speaker 1: caught it the one Tumor fighting for the goal line

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Speaker 1: and he did not get in. He's just short. But

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Speaker 1: it's another third down conversion as Manning fired a bullet

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Speaker 1: to a Monti Tumor first and goal inside the one

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Speaker 1: I set Manning back to throw, looks, grows to the

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Speaker 1: end zone, caught for a touchdown by Kevin Boss in

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Speaker 1: traffic as Manning took a shot and Kevin Boss again

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Speaker 1: catches a touchdown pass. It's fourth of the season, three

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Speaker 1: weeks in a row, and the Giants go eighty yards

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Speaker 1: for the second time tonight, and they widen their lead. Yep,

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Speaker 1: so they widen the lead. The team's trade possessions, um,

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Speaker 1: and you know the Giants don't have control of this

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Speaker 1: football game. And uh then self inflicted wound hand off.

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Speaker 1: Jacobs gets a block from O'Hara. Jacobs to the forty

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Speaker 1: hurdles a man it gets hammered, lost the football, it's loose,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Eagles have it. They did Chris

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Speaker 1: go Kong, remember that name. He forced the fumble and

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Speaker 1: guess who recovered at Mike Patterson who had the interception.

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Speaker 1: Um McNabb hits Jason Avant for a touchdown. So the

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Speaker 1: Giants in control of the game, but now their lead

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Speaker 1: is only three. We're still in the second quarter. Another

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Speaker 1: quick possession for the Giants, and here comes the Eagles

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Speaker 1: work in their two minute offense with Donovan McNabb when

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Speaker 1: the Giants defense makes the play McNabb out of the

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Speaker 1: shotgun set Scott Westbrook to his right, play fake McNabb

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Speaker 1: back the throw sets throws one right intercepted by Sam Madison,

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Speaker 1: not the thirty five running down the up sideline to

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Speaker 1: the twenty five, skip to the twenty to the fifteen

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Speaker 1: had stepped out of bounds. There Sam i am with

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Speaker 1: the pick and but the Giants have to settle for three,

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Speaker 1: so the lead is only six. Philadelphia gets the ball

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Speaker 1: with one two to go on a half. They drive

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Speaker 1: it down field. Acres kicks a twenty nine yard or

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Speaker 1: good defense by the Giants to keep him out of

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Speaker 1: the end zone and uh make sure that they at

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Speaker 1: least have the lead. So it's twenty to seventeen at

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Speaker 1: the half. Eagles come out start the third and Hank

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Speaker 1: Tisket a tasket a green and yellow basket had a

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Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown Cats to start things off. And suddenly

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Speaker 1: the Giants ten point lead has evaporated and they find

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Speaker 1: themselves losing twenty. But at this point in time, John,

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00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: you remember the Giants were so good that year. Um

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Speaker 1: there was you always felt like they were gonna win

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00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: games even if they fell behind. They converted third and

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Speaker 1: four in the next possession of Steve Smith and then

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Speaker 1: Kevin Boss always comes up big, and he did on

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Speaker 1: this drive. Play clock of tens. He receivers last. Here

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Speaker 1: they come. Manning back steps up. He's gonna run, talks now,

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Speaker 1: throws at the Boss who makes the catch at the five.

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Speaker 1: But he was over the line of scrimmage. Right line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage was the twenty, and he was passed the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I believe when he threw it illegal

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Speaker 1: forward passed offense umber ten five yard penalty off of

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Speaker 1: down fourth down after a view the quarterback's back foot

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Speaker 1: was not beyond the line at the moment the ball

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Speaker 1: was released. There is no foul on the play. The

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Speaker 1: ball belongs to New York at the three yard line,

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Speaker 1: not charts for the time out. My favorite part of

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Speaker 1: that is hearing the eagle those fans in the background

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Speaker 1: realize exactly what's happening to them and not being happy

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Speaker 1: about it. Yes, Terry McAuley was the referee in that game,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, he liked, you know, the back of his foot.

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Speaker 1: All you need is one body part, any part of

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Speaker 1: your body behind the line, and it counts, which is

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Speaker 1: so weird because every other rule is if it's one

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Speaker 1: body part either on the out of bounds line, then

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Speaker 1: you're out. But for this, if it's one part behind,

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Speaker 1: you're in. It's just it's it's very odd how they

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Speaker 1: decided to do that. It really does make does not

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Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. So, uh, two plays later,

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Speaker 1: the Giants regained the lead. It's not gonna go at

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Speaker 1: the three handoff, Jacobs runs right to the goal line,

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Speaker 1: no signal yet, touchdown. There's the power of football the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Jacobs eighth rushing touchdown on. The Giants have to leave

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Speaker 1: with five fifty six to go on the third with

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Speaker 1: an extra point pending, they'll go up three. Listen to

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Speaker 1: some of these numbers. Two. I mean, I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: It's been a it's been a tough year for Giants fans.

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Speaker 1: Um like Jacob's eighth rushing touchdown and this game was

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Speaker 1: played on November the nine. Wow. Yeah, that that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah. So the Giants have the lead three

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Speaker 1: and alco the Eagles. Uh. Late in the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: Eli hits Kevin Boss again on the third down for

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Speaker 1: thirteen yards. So the Giants are putting a drive together

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Speaker 1: and uh, let's listen to Kevin Boss work a little

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Speaker 1: magic third and two at the Eagles thirty five. Boss

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Speaker 1: goes in motion Eagles, soaplits man. He back throws one left.

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Speaker 1: He completes it on the sideline. Boss open, he jumps

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Speaker 1: over a man and then gets knocked out of bounds

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Speaker 1: at the twenty. I tell you where I had the

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Speaker 1: film session. I bet tomorrow Tom Coughin is gonna say

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Speaker 1: the next one that jumps is gonna get a a

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Speaker 1: big fine because it leaves your body vulnerable. Now he

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Speaker 1: was to the sideline and he used it to his advantage.

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Speaker 1: And now it's funny because now people heard it all

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Speaker 1: the time. And this is pre Larry Dennell, when it

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Speaker 1: was just you know, cattonball into the pool. Remember Jack

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Speaker 1: was fumbled earlier in the game jumping. Uh. So the

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Speaker 1: Giants have it first in goal, but they have to

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Speaker 1: settle for a field goal, so their lead is only

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Speaker 1: six um. But you know they their defense does a

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Speaker 1: nice job. They hold Philadelphia and then uh sav Rocca

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Speaker 1: was the punter, kicks a forty six yarder and Dominic

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Speaker 1: Kickson returns at seventy three yards for a touchdown and

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh yeah, parties on. But wait, Michael Johnson

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Speaker 1: got called for a hold, so that takes the touchdown

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Speaker 1: off the board. Um. So now the Giants started the

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Speaker 1: forty yard line after the punt instead of having a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: and uh, Bradshaw goes for twenty three but he fumbled it.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately fumbled it out of bounds. Um. Giants converted a

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Speaker 1: third and seven UM Derek ward Um got stopped, but

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia got a call for a penalty defensive offside. So

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Speaker 1: then Jacobs converts what was the third and two with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia nine, and then Jacobs finishes it off to

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Speaker 1: give the Giants the lead. Their sixth trip in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. They have two touchdowns so far, had off

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00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: Jacob's up the middle, spins who's the pile forward to

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Speaker 1: the goal line? Touchdown Brandon Jacobs. So Jacob scores. This was,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of those deals where I'm not a

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Speaker 1: big fan of this, Like Coughlin and company decided to

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Speaker 1: go for two to make it a fourteen point game

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Speaker 1: instead of going up thirteen with the extra point. They

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: failed on the two point conversion because they didn't run

642
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: their customary draw. They actually threw the ball. They would

643
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: have run to draw to Bradshaw. It would have worked

644
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter who the running back was, from

645
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: a mod Bradshaw to Brandon Jacobs to Orleans dark Wall

646
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: to anybody in between, to Wayne Goldmandre Brown. The two

647
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: point draw seems to work, but they threw it. I

648
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: didn't like when. I wasn't happy that they went for two. There. Uh,

649
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia gets the ball back. Now they're in hurry up mode.

650
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Kevin Curtis with a two yard touchdown catch. So now

651
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: the Giant lead is only five um in this ball game,

652
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: and there's like five and a half minutes to go. Uh.

653
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: Derek Ward on a third and one fumbled the football.

654
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: Now Karie mackenzie recovered it, but the Giants don't get

655
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: the first down. They have to punt the football away.

656
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: But the lead is five. Okay. So now here we

657
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: are with three minutes to go in the game, Philadelphia

658
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: is driving. We're inside the two minute warning field goals

659
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: do you no good at this point? Right? So they

660
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: gotta go for it, and they go for it with

661
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: one to go. On a fourth and one, Nick nath

662
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Puleague SIGRed hand off Westbrook run right here, stop stop short.

663
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Ross and Tonio Pierce and Justin Tucked shut him down.

664
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: No game had some good names right there, man. And

665
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: you know who else was in on that tackle, Chase Blackburn.

666
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: Chase Blackburn. So uh, the Giants take over with one

667
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: forty seven ago. Philadelphia only had one time out remaining,

668
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: and the Giants wind up taking a knee and they

669
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: win this one thirty six thirty one, and it's another

670
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: win down in Philadelphia, unfortunately for the Giants. How many

671
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: rushing yards that hav in that game, Bob, I'm just curious,

672
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: is because that team was still good on the ground.

673
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Have there? Let me look at the play by play.

674
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, in that game, the Giants had forty five

675
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: rushes rushes for two hundred and nineteen yards. That's days work. Yeah,

676
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: I mean they had four hundred yards of offense to

677
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles three hundred. They average five point two yards

678
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: of play. Barbara Jacobs had one twenty six man, Derek

679
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: Ward had fifty three, Bradshaw had thirty eight on just

680
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: five carries. He averaged seven point six yards. At takes

681
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the Giants three games. They get those numbers. Yeah, I

682
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: mean I only threw for two touchdowns in the one interception.

683
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: So meanwhile, Philadelphia McNabb had a hundred and ninety four

684
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: yards passing in the game, so it's another win. Unfortunately,

685
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: we all know what happened in that playoff game because

686
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: if the Giants Plexico doesn't shoot himself in the leg

687
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: and the Giants host the Eagles because the Giants had

688
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: the number one seed, remember they beat Carolina, Um, everybody's

689
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: coming through MetLife. The Giants win that game, that Arizona

690
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: is coming in Kurt Waterer and the Cardinals and the

691
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: freezing cold Giants are going to the Super Bowl. And

692
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: then it's Green Bay I think was a Green Bay

693
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: in then Mix two or no, I think it was Arizona.

694
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: I think Arizona beat Green Baby. Ye. Yeah, so Arizona

695
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: would have wanted up coming to the Giants and uh

696
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: in Giants Stadium. I didn't like their chances. And then

697
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, if they would have played Pittsburgh in the

698
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl again, I would have liked the Giants chances

699
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: then too. But you know what, it didn't happen, and

700
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: that is the regret of all those players that are

701
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: on that team because they were the best team in

702
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: the NFL. What sticks in my mind about that Pittsburgh

703
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: game in the regular season that year, didn't Um, James

704
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: Harrison had to long snap on a punt and he

705
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: snapped it into the end zone right for a safety. Yeah.

706
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: It was a very I mean, it was a close game.

707
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: It's not like the Giants blew them out or anything,

708
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: but they still did beat them. So we're keeping all

709
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: these games in Philadelphia. Now the worm has turned a

710
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: little bit after that oh eight home playoff loss, and

711
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: now Philadelphia is starting to find ways to beat the

712
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Giants in weird ways, like the year before the Sean

713
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: Jackson punt returned. When the Giants are you know, they're

714
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna win the football game, they're gonna go to the plus.

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Speaker 1: I mean they were ten and six in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eleven. Yeah, we chose not to go into a

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00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: deeper view of that game because we weren't interested in

718
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: torturing Giant fans leading into Christmas. We didn't think it

719
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: was the holiday thing to do, so we decided to

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Speaker 1: pass on that one. Plus that was a home game.

721
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Speaker 1: This podcast is just Games at the Link, Okay. Um,

722
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: So two thousand and eleven, it's early in the season. Uh,

723
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: and the Giants are having some issues at the receiver position.

724
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: And uh, remember Victor Cruz had dropped a pass in

725
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: the season opener against Washington on a third down. And

726
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: after all of his excitement from the preseason in two

727
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: thousand and ten, remember he was on I R most

728
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: of two thousand and ten. He didn't have the greatest

729
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: camp in two thousand eleven. He didn't look like the

730
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: guy from the year before. And there was some question

731
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Speaker 1: as to whether Victor Cruz was gonna even stick on

732
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: the roster. But Brandon Stokely suffered a hamstring injury. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Mario Manningham, by the way, Cruz barely made it out

734
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: of final cuts that he had. Mario Manningham was banged up,

735
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: so he was inactive for the game. Um, so they

736
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: had to they needed Victor Cruz to They needed a

737
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: body at wide receiver. And this is the game September

738
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: twenty five, two thousand and eleven, when the legend of

739
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: Victor Cruz was born. Playing and simple. You know, the

740
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: preseason game against the Jets the year before was in

741
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: the distant memory, and now this guy was looking like

742
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: a guy that was just you know, a preseason phenomen

743
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: from a year earlier, but an undrafted free agent that

744
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: you know it was. He's on the team, but they

745
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: needed him to do something. So let's go back to

746
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: that game. Michael Vick is now the quarterback. Giants do

747
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: nothing on their first offensive possession. Eagles are putting a

748
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: drive together and they've got a deep and Giants territory.

749
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: When the Giants defense rises up early, vic Back gets

750
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: away from Williams, throws one left, deflected off Smith, intercepted

751
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: by Aaron Ross at the ten to fifteen to twenty

752
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: to the and tackled at the twenty six yard line.

753
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: It went off the hands of former Giants Steve Smith.

754
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Ross with the pick and the Giants get the

755
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: ball back after a long Eagles drive. It's his post

756
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Steve Smith injury when he left the Giants and he

757
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: was really never the team. No, he was never the same,

758
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: great guy, a huge role in that Super Bowl forty

759
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: to win. Um, so the Giants, you know, Uh, Bradshaw

760
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: gets a fifteen yard run on second down, Keem Nicks

761
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: as a catch. Um Bradshaw has a short catch, a

762
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: short run, so you know the Giants after the interception um,

763
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: Bradshaw has a fifteen yard run. Nicks has a nine

764
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: yard catch, Bradshaw for four, past to Bradshaw for five.

765
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: And you know, Eli was not shy about throwing it

766
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: to his running backs when needed. Second and five at

767
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia forty, Jacobs in a tailback manning out of play,

768
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: fake to throw half time. He's got Jacobs open wide

769
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: down the left sideline, takes the catch at the twenty

770
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: ten fuck touchdown, Giants little wheel route to Brandon Jacobs.

771
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: There you go. And by the way, didn't catch a

772
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: lot of wheel routes that Brandon Jacobs, but he caught

773
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: it on that, Yeah he did. And listen, Uh, you know,

774
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: Jacobs was an effective pass catcher. I mean all the that.

775
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: That's the thing about the Giants running backs in that era,

776
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Award Bradshaw, Jacobs. They could catch the ball

777
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: out of the backfield and that was a key weapon

778
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: for them. And they had a seven nothing lead. Uh

779
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: so the Eagles get the ball back another long drive.

780
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: JPP gets a big sack and uh you know, now

781
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: the Giants, you know, they're they're kind of pinned at

782
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: their own eighteen yard line or whatever, and um, they

783
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: got a third down situation and they need to make

784
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: a play, and again the legend of Victor Cruz starts

785
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: to manifest itself on this very play. Manning back to

786
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: throw zips one laught, caught like, Cruise runs out of

787
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: a tackle to the forty up to mid field, makes

788
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: another band miss the forty five down the left sideline.

789
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: There goes Cruise twenty fifty ten five touchdown, Giants seventy

790
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: four yards, Victor Cruz seventy four yards. It took a

791
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: short little pass on a third and two, and it's like,

792
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: all right, all right, this kid Cruise makes a play.

793
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he maybe he can. Maybe he's just not a

794
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: preseason player. Maybe he's more than that. Well, you know

795
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: he you know, he needed to bounce back after that

796
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: season opener against Washington. So you're like, all right, there's

797
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: a contribution. And the Giants are up fourteen nothing another

798
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: long Eagles drive, but the Giants hold him to a

799
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: field goal. And then the Giants get the ball back

800
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: and they try to put them and put another drive together,

801
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: and uh a mod Bradshaw has a big run for

802
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Big Blue Rips off a thirty seven yard or so.

803
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: Now on a third and five thirty seven yards for Bradshaw.

804
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Giants are in plus territory. Interesting again. Um coughlin decides

805
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: to go for it on fourth and three at the

806
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: Eagles thirty one yard line, and he completes a pass

807
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: to Travis Beckham, but it was third and three and

808
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Beckham only went two yards on the route, so the

809
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: Giants turned it over on downs. Shady McCoy uh just

810
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: inside the two minute warning runs it in from eleven

811
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: yards out. So here you are feeling like the Giants

812
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: are gonna widen the fourteen to three lead, and next

813
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: thing you know, it's fourteen to ten. Um. The Giants

814
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: do nothing with the next possession, and again the Eagles

815
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: drive it down field. Jeremy Macklin had a big twenty

816
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: four yard catch and then Henry kicks the thirty eight

817
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: yard field goals. So a game that the Giants are controlling,

818
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: the only lead by one. So onto the third quarter

819
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: we go three and out for the Eagles. Giants get

820
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: the ball. Manning gets sacked by Trent Cole and um,

821
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: you know again the Eagles had these long drives man

822
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: this whole game. The you know, on the first half,

823
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles had the ball for like twenty one minutes,

824
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: and um, there's a big sequence. Philadelphia had first and

825
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: goal at the two, and there's a big two play

826
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: sequence here with the Giants defense does a really nice

827
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: job to limit Philadelphia. Vick over center. They'll keep it

828
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: again and he moves the pile. No signal yet, no

829
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: signal for a touchdown. They're saying he's not in. The

830
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: officials come from each of the sidelines and say no touchdown.

831
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: So now it'll be signals. Gives it to the fullback.

832
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna lose a yard or tier. Schmidt gets pushed

833
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: back to the three. Wow, that's interesting play calling mirror. Yeah,

834
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: Omarsh Schmidt. Uh, so Lynval Joseph and Michael Boley with

835
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: big plays. So Henry kicks a field goal. So the

836
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Giants are now they don't have the lead, but it's

837
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: it's they're only down by two at this point. Uh.

838
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: And that's where we are going into the fourth quarter.

839
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: But the Giants three and out. They gotta punt the

840
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: football away. Uh, Philadelphia, they gotta drive. They decided to

841
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: go for it on a fourth down in Giants territory.

842
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: Tight end lined up to the right. Two tight ends

843
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 1: set quick count handoff, McCoy, hit by Grant, hit again,

844
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: and he's tackle for a loss by Michael Bowley at

845
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: the forty. Yeah that was on a fourth and one

846
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: and Michael Vick got hurt on that play, which knocked

847
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: him out for the game. So the Giants are down too,

848
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: and uh, the Giants, they start getting chunk plays, chunk plays,

849
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: chunk plays. And then here's this kid, Cruise again, handing

850
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: back to throw as Tom deep ball towards the end

851
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: zone and it's caught for the touchdown by Cruise. He

852
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: took it away from two defenders. Want a play by

853
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: Victor Cruise and the Giants have a lead back That

854
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: is just straight competing. You've gotta plaut this young man.

855
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: He stepped up and made some place with good physical

856
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: play there. Now he's in double coverage. Bob catches it

857
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: with his hands. Number one and then number two just

858
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: fights for every yard he gets. Man, he just threw

859
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: it up to crews who beat two defenders including awesome

860
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: Awa and he held the football out enough to break

861
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: the plane for the touchdown. Oh he dropped the football.

862
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna it's a catch him a fumber when the

863
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: recovery though, he would be did he have control of

864
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: it and complete the act of the catch and then

865
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: fumble it into the end zone or did he never

866
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: control it completely? Would both hands. Here's Jeff Triplett with

867
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: the call. After reviewing the play, ruling on the field

868
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: is confirmed. Receiver caught the ball, stuck it over the

869
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: gold line plane before he lost possession, and then they touchdown.

870
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: So Victor. You know, at that time, Nandi awesome Wall

871
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: was considered one of the top dbs in the NFL. Well, well,

872
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: this was the Eagles dream team here when they brought

873
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: in all those guys that did not work out. No,

874
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: it didn't. So then the Giants went for two, and uh,

875
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: at first it did not succeed, but then it did succeed.

876
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: Manning handoff Jacob, She's gonna run right, takes on defenders

877
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: and he's in for the two points. Brandon Stokely had

878
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass on the first try, but there was

879
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: a penalty, Yeah it was. There was a defensive pass interference.

880
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: So that made the score twenty two to sixteen. So

881
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: now the Giants are up six. Now, remember I told

882
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: you Vic got hurt in the previous possession, So now

883
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: Mike Kafka had to come in at quarterback and his

884
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: first pass of the game, No Buenoa takes the snap

885
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: pumps looks Lobs went deep down the right sideline, intercepted

886
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: by Aaron Ross at the forty five yard line of Philadelphia.

887
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: He was step for step with Deshan Jackson and Ross

888
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: played it beautifully, his second pick of the ball game,

889
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: and the Giants get the football back. Yeah, I mean

890
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Ross had had wheels and Deshan Jackson was fast

891
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: still is fast, and uh so that's a big interception.

892
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Now the Giants with eight minutes to go to get

893
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: one of those old Giants grinded out drives. They convert

894
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: a third and one, They convert a third and nine.

895
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: Uh philadelph for you a call for a penalty on

896
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: fourth down, Babin encroachment penalty. Um so now the Giants

897
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: are in the red zone. They have a negative play,

898
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: So now they've got to convert a third down. Now,

899
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: remember a field goal here would put the Giants up

900
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: twenty five to sixteen, right, So that that that's gonna

901
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: put them in good position regardless Tom Coughlin, Kevin Gilbride,

902
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, they go for the kill. Shot three thirty

903
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: nine to go in the game. Stokely in motion to

904
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: the right, Manning drops back to throw a little screen

905
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: left for Bradshaw. He's got room. Bradshot to the tent

906
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: to the five touchdown Giants. They run a little screen

907
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: left to a mod Bradshaw. Eli. Manning throws his fourth

908
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: touchdown pass of the ball game. Giants kicked the extra point,

909
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: so now they're up thirteen with three thirty two to

910
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: go in the game. I want to take a look

911
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: at what Eli's final numbers were. He was sixteen of

912
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: twenty three to fifty four, four touchdowns, no interception, sixteen

913
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: completions for two d fifty yards. It's fantastic. Yeah. They

914
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: they they used to chunk it um. And then the

915
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: Eagles at the two minute warning, they're trying to drive

916
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean they they're down by thirteen at

917
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: this point, they need two scores and Kafka gets intercepted

918
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: on a pass intended for DeShawn Jackson by Kenny Phillips,

919
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Giants taking knee, and the Giants win this one and

920
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: fill another win in Philadelphia before we say goodbye bye.

921
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you one thing that we

922
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: didn't touch on this. You've done games at the Link

923
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: and you did games at the VET. Tell me about

924
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: the Vet. Well, the Vet man, you would come out

925
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: of that locker room and walk down that tunnel to

926
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: get to that ridiculously rock hard astro turf field and

927
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: you'd be like, what is it? I mean, this is brutal.

928
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: The fans were right on top of you, um just

929
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: cursing and they it was. It was very intimidating place.

930
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: It was a very intimidating place. Now Lincoln Financial Field

931
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: can be intimidating as well, but you were scared at

932
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: the Vet, like at the very safety. Yeah, like you

933
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: didn't go in today's world where everybody has jerseys now

934
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: it's acceptable. I mean you don't really be running around

935
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: with Giants jerseys on in Philadelphia ever. But you could

936
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: get it. You could get away with it. Lincoln Financial

937
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: Field at the Vet, it was it was a non starter.

938
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: There was no people wearing jerseys in the stands unless

939
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: you literally wanted to go and fight. You would not

940
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 1: wear a jersey right in the jail cell in the

941
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: basement there at the VET. So that was the judge.

942
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: I think they had a judge there. It was a

943
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: it was a rough place, um, which is kind of

944
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: ironic because, um, you know, the Giants had a lot

945
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: of success down there, but Lincoln Financial Field, there are

946
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of good memories of games down there, a

947
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: lot of fun drives back up the New Jersey Turnpike,

948
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: not as much in recent vintage, even in the but

949
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: even recently. And you go back to you know the

950
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: game where I think Genorris Jenkins and I can't remember

951
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: who the other corner they run into each other, which

952
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: allowed of completion, which allowed um uh and Elliott like

953
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: sixty yard field goal to beat the Giants. There was

954
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game where the Giants were driving it

955
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: down the field and there was a drop pass and

956
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: it looked like ELI had Martellis Bennett open, but there

957
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: was poor protection. Um. There was also a checkdown that

958
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: was available. There was the game in which Evan Ingram

959
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: dropped the pass um at the two minute warning. Eli's

960
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: last start in Philadelphia. Giants could have won that game too.

961
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's like a zillion there. Put it this way,

962
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: they haven't been blown out a lot in Philadelphia. In

963
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: fact that they've they've they've had a chance to win

964
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: a lot of games over the last ten years down there.

965
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: They haven't, but they're always find a way to lose

966
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: in the most painful way possible. It's what, It's uncanny,

967
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: but you know there is positive reinforcement of a time

968
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: when they did win those games. Bob, this was fun

969
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: when we got two of these left. You got the

970
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: Bears and then we close out with the Washington football team.

971
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: So should we have a couple of good set of

972
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: games there, Yeah, looking forward to it. John love doing

973
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: these and hopefully the fans are enjoying a little walk

974
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: down memory lane. Yes. Merry Christmas, everybody, Hope you enjoy

975
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: your holiday. We'll be back with two more episodes of

976
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,040
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977
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,680
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979
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: At the end, you could find Poppa's Perspective on the

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Speaker 1: Giants Huddle podcast feed. We'll see you next time.