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Speaker 3: Yannie and I have a big announcement about a big announcement, Yannie.

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Speaker 3: to Wednesday episode. At the very beginning, we're gonna give

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Speaker 3: you all the details you want to know about where

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Speaker 3: we're going to be, when we're going to be there,

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Speaker 3: and how you can get tickets.

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Speaker 5: Be there or b square.

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Speaker 1: Uh trying to figure.

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Speaker 6: It's a great start to start.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna do a better start here, right, start over, Phil, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's throwing my glasses?

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Speaker 5: They're fine, they're fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm turning up my magnification.

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Speaker 7: Is this one of those times where you're joking about

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Speaker 7: cutting it out or you actually want to like start.

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Speaker 5: Over, Okay, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna talk. I don't know you decided

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Speaker 1: later Phil, I was gonna So we recently, just to

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Speaker 1: just bring people into up to speed. First off, this

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Speaker 1: is my The episode is called well it's not. In

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Speaker 1: the old days, it would have been called Mung Dudes

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Speaker 1: Are Trouble, Part two, And we're joined by Yah Yang

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Speaker 1: and in Year Yang Vang Year Vang and yeah you

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Speaker 1: used to be Yeah, I used to be Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: that simplifies thing. How you guys, how well do you

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Speaker 1: guys know what you've met in the past.

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Speaker 5: Never met He's familiar with your food. Well, I listened

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Speaker 5: to the pod with him on with you guys, but

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Speaker 5: other than that.

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Speaker 1: Got it.

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Speaker 2: But he's he's you've eaten at his restaurant, Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah,

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Speaker 2: probably doesn't know this, but I've been at like he

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Speaker 2: caters fun fundraisers that you did the Monk Museum fundraisers.

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Speaker 5: Oh sure that.

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Speaker 2: You probably don't know this, but you did a a

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Speaker 2: house catering party. This is pre pandemic, and it was

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Speaker 2: in somebody's basement. You came to the house and I

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Speaker 2: was in that party. It was for our fortieth birthday party.

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Speaker 1: And they had your your.

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Speaker 5: Team coach, I think I remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you were introducing us to like edible flowers

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Speaker 1: So yeah, like among dudes don't if they meet, they

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily like trade information.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Steven Slay white people like, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's different white people, but you are related.

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Speaker 1: It's different white people, white people in America. If okay,

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Speaker 1: if I was in if we have how many people

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Speaker 1: for me to run into a white dude born in America,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't catch my attention. If I had been born

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Speaker 5: Wow, yeah. I think the thing that people have to

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Speaker 2: Also they also capped the the dowry a set amount

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how I just got caught being racist,

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Speaker 1: Normally when a white guy gets caught being racist, he'll

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Speaker 1: has been pitching you to us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you should have this guy on. So

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Speaker 1: eventually where we got you to where we got you

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is that bad?

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's great. No, No, it's it's awesome.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. My buddy Jordan, he like wrote

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Speaker 5: this guy's awesome, my best friend.

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Speaker 1: So you did it too.

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Speaker 5: In June of twenty twenty one, I pulled it up today.

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Speaker 5: It took me some doing, but in Gmail, I was

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Speaker 5: like I totally sent an email. I now I don't

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Speaker 5: and I know you did the same thing and the

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Speaker 5: I mean, and Jordian said the same thing, you know,

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Speaker 5: where he is, can you introduce yourself?

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Speaker 1: Done a horrible job introducing there, But I don't we

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Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, sorry, Yannie, I don't just do it. Do

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so Yabang we from Minneapolis area. We have a

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Speaker 5: is the refugee camp that my parents met in I

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Speaker 5: it's a love letter to my mom and dad. So

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Speaker 5: that's what that restaurant will be when we get done,

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Speaker 5: hopefully twenty twenty four. Springtime. Great, but yeah we have

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna dive into your

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Speaker 8: We worked off of just that little pitch, the like

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Speaker 8: I want one on the list love letter to mom

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Speaker 8: and dad.

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Speaker 5: I'm sold. Yeah, it's been It's been really fun, man,

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Speaker 1: So Ryan Callahan still me and then go ahead.

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Speaker 5: And my name's Jordan Vold, college buddy of you. We

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Speaker 5: went to school UW Lacrosse US years ago.

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Speaker 1: And you're the guy. He said. If he comes out

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Speaker 1: of the show you're coming.

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Speaker 5: To tattooed on his parm right there.

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Speaker 1: That's great.

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Speaker 6: I gotta get one of them.

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's nothing like a bluegill.

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Speaker 1: No, my kid has one now in a tank, so

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Speaker 1: we feed it like worms and stuff with that bluegill

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Speaker 6: Yep. Well, my mom was in labor with me on

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Speaker 1: not You're not in it, though, are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think. I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 1: just thought of it. Uh, Chester explained the tax exchange

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Speaker 6: Uh. Steve introduced me to his buddy, Matt Matt Tros.

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Speaker 6: Matt Tros, he's got a little bar yet he opened

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Speaker 1: Is there a direct sale of alcohol with this mobile bar?

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Speaker 1: Other Let's say you live in northern Michigan and you're

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Speaker 1: My buddy's a school teacher. This is his summertime business.

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Speaker 1: He has a camper trailer rigged up like a bar.

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Speaker 1: When you're doing your event and you're you know, you

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And nothing to gain from this pretty soon if you

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Speaker 6: My parents own a cocktail garnish company out of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: But I got more Matt Droll stories, and you'd be

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Speaker 1: I got some good if I do have some good ones.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not get into Mad Dog twenty twenty stories.

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Speaker 1: All right. The Mountain Lion story.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so this story comes from my buddy Jeff Flood,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're they're researching like how much if they

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Speaker 4: Well, I know I'm trying to simplify it so I

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Speaker 1: Because they're creating an association. Yes, in this cat's mind,

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Speaker 5: They make that association.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they do that repeatedly, and then they you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, there's a lot of stuff going on over

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my least favorite governor in America used to be

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Speaker 4: Go on, so they call Heed a female off of

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Speaker 5: A lot of times.

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Speaker 4: What Jeff does is if he sees a deer kill

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Speaker 1: that feeding itself is just more involved, right, exactly, like

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Speaker 1: a deer could just go grays whatever, twenty minutes right,

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Speaker 1: come back, grays, come back. But for that thing, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's headed.

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Speaker 5: Out right hunting.

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Speaker 1: It's not like a mission. Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So it sees that they would need to be able

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Speaker 1: to do like some kind of lengthy stash, because it's

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Speaker 1: not like, hey, I'll be back in an hour, sure,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 4: And I guess that the reason you would think that

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Speaker 4: it is a long time is because you would think that, oh,

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Speaker 4: how are those kittens going to survive that long without

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Speaker 4: being able to get a little milk in a seven

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Speaker 4: hour period?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: So may fourth, first thing in the morning, she moves

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Speaker 4: her first kitten, grabs it by the back of the neck,

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Speaker 4: walks off with it, doesn't come back until six pm.

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Speaker 5: To get grab this.

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Speaker 1: What time did I grab the first one?

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Speaker 5: Eight am?

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Speaker 4: So who knows how far it moves it, but comes

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Speaker 4: back at six pm to grab the second one and

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Speaker 4: moves it same day. One kitten left.

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Speaker 5: Right, It's like a bad children's book, but at a

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Speaker 5: parent at midnight. At midnight that next morning.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm getting on. So it's

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Speaker 1: the first one at what time?

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Speaker 5: Six am?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Then comes back in the afternoon eight No?

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Speaker 5: Eight? Well what did I say? No? Eight am and

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Speaker 5: six pm? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So it gets one to eight am, brings it wherever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: comes back that evening six pm. Now there's one sitting

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Speaker 1: there into the dark.

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Speaker 5: And at midnight a skunk shows up. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: And again it's not like documented by pictures, but the

475
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Speaker 4: skunk was there for quite some time. There was blood

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Speaker 4: on the skunk. Mom showed up the next day and

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Speaker 4: spent five hours there just like looking around and doing

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Speaker 4: circles before she left, and then he never saw it again.

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Speaker 4: The skunk eighth the kitten, whether it ate it or

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Speaker 4: it just killed it, you know, but I mean think about.

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Speaker 5: From this skunk's perspective, that's a big win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, take it out now, that's one lass dude later

483
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Speaker 4: taking me out or my you know kid.

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Speaker 6: Do you know how big these kittens are at what.

485
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Speaker 4: Tiny this stage? Like I mean, you know, little fur balls.

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Speaker 4: I mean not not not even the size of a housecatt.

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Speaker 1: That's a cold blooded skunk.

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Speaker 8: I want to understand Mom's like decision making to like

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Speaker 8: how does she select a kitten. Is it totally random?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 5: Or is she like yeah, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like my big favorite one, the best kitten, right,

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Speaker 1: the one in the middle is the best kitten.

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Speaker 8: The first one to leave is super exposed or is

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Speaker 8: it less sent If you're the first one, it's fascinating.

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Speaker 1: The middle is the favorite. I would think the middle

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Speaker 1: it's like, I'm gonna bring the one I like, the

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Speaker 1: one I really don't like. I'll figure it out later.

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Speaker 1: The one I sort of like, I'm gonna bring it

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Speaker 1: now to pioneer this new spot. If it looks good,

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Speaker 1: I'll go get my favorite one, and then if I

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Speaker 1: got time later, I'll get my least favorite one. We

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Speaker 1: should write a Maybe we could publish an academic article

504
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Speaker 1: about this called Favoritism, uh favor and Feline con Colorists.

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Speaker 5: Or just writing a children's book, writing.

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Speaker 1: Children's book called tough Luck.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you can do little backstories on each of the

508
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Speaker 8: kittens and be like, this is why Mom picked you

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Speaker 8: as the middle one.

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Speaker 1: I have a picture of my daughter on my phone.

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Speaker 1: In the other day, she's saying, the reason I have

512
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Speaker 1: her on my phone is otherwise i'd forget about her

513
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Speaker 1: because she's the middle. Where you're like, honey, you're not wrong,

514
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Speaker 1: because she's the middle.

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Speaker 5: Keep a lot of things on my phone that I

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Speaker 5: don't want to forget about. Also, that's episode two that

517
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Speaker 5: it's called an elk hunting nudist checks the breeze.

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Speaker 1: God's a good title, dude.

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Speaker 4: It's called an elk hunting nudist checks the breeze. If

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Speaker 4: you want to learn all about Bart George's mountaining collaring

521
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Speaker 4: study in Northeast Washington.

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Speaker 1: It was a good title.

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Speaker 5: Listen.

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Speaker 1: We had a good run at just having titles that

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Speaker 1: didn't mean anything. What happened we started naming them stuff

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Speaker 1: that means something.

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Speaker 5: Search engine optimization because.

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Speaker 1: Because now with the shows on YouTube, it doesn't work

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Speaker 1: to have you can't have a name that has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with anything. Meaning if you name something a.

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Speaker 7: Nudist or push.

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Speaker 1: Them to pot or a nudist checks the breeze, you'll

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Speaker 1: wind up in like a different land.

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Speaker 4: Would tell you that that would have been the same

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Speaker 4: case on other platforms.

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Speaker 1: I resisted the idea. Here's the thing I resisted and

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Speaker 1: still resist the idea that people search podcasts. I don't,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear people some people do. I don't believe that

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Speaker 1: people regularly do content searches for podcasts, meaning I don't

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Speaker 1: think people go in and search key do keyword searches

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Speaker 1: around podcasts. Some do, but I don't think that's how

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's how people discover.

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Speaker 6: Searching for people maybe like certain folks.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and when we and we would we would bow

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Speaker 1: to that in some respects with our old naming convention.

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Speaker 1: But now here's another I'll tell you that that would

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Speaker 1: surprise me. What's actually the words that we're actually saying

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Speaker 1: right now actually matters for how how YouTube serves. You

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Speaker 1: could name it like a nudist checks the breeze, but

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Speaker 1: then never talk about nudists and all that, And it'll

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Speaker 1: be served based on content, but the thumbnail people see

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Speaker 1: is based on It'll be served based on what's actually

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Speaker 1: done within the show. The thumbnail people see will be

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Speaker 1: what you present them. So if you have, like if

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Speaker 1: you're talking about mountain lions, mountain lions, mountain lions, it

556
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Speaker 1: might go to a person that loves mountain lions, what

557
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Speaker 1: that person is going to see is a nudist checks

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Speaker 1: the breeze, and he'll think, why is this here for

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Speaker 1: this reason? Am I doing a good job explaining this?

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Speaker 1: Krin Is it?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 2: So?

563
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Speaker 8: Like our guests today, Donald Trump and Joe Rogan are

564
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Speaker 8: talking about transgender rights in bathrooms, and that could possibly

565
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Speaker 8: help this episode pop up in people searchings.

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Speaker 5: Nailed it.

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Speaker 1: That's next level, right there, man. You satisfied with that?

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Speaker 1: Krin Kriinn satisfied with that? Uh. A couple of quick

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Speaker 1: things we got touched on.

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Speaker 5: The road to twenty twenty four. Go ahead, Steve.

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Speaker 1: We covered Roamingnomai dot com again. Probably hit that a

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Speaker 1: couple more times in the future. Vegan Landlords, this is

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Speaker 1: a this is a chatticate question. Chester. Do you know

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Speaker 1: about this?

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Speaker 6: Well? I just read it, yes or whatever?

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Speaker 1: Uh, oh, we'll cover it. He was listening to the

577
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Speaker 1: Pussing the Pot episode, so the Pussing to Pot t

578
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Speaker 1: shirts came out. But they're gone already, but we didn't

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Speaker 1: order that many.

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Speaker 7: Are we gonna order more?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They were gone in less than a day.

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Speaker 1: I sunk a gaff into an octopus's arm, and he

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Speaker 1: got the gaff away from me and snuck off with it.

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Speaker 1: And I'll point out they can lose their arm, it

585
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Speaker 1: doesn't bother them. They just grow a new one. So

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Speaker 1: then we started laughing about how that octopus probably doesn't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere without that gaff.

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Speaker 5: Snuck off with it as an interesting way to put

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Speaker 5: hold it.

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Speaker 1: Out of my hands. We had got in the wrestling

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Speaker 1: match and he got away with the gaff. It's a

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Speaker 1: big one, but the gaff isn't barbed, so the gaff

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Speaker 1: would have just fallen out either way. It's funny to

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Speaker 1: think of an octopus now, because you know he likes

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Speaker 1: he uses the gaff for everything.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna come back and get you.

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Speaker 1: Out if he wants to get something out of a hole.

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Speaker 1: He's like stand back boys, and he just gets that

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Speaker 1: gaff out and does what he needs to do with it.

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Speaker 8: Anywhere, a little subtle tapping on the bottom of your boat.

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Speaker 1: We're waiting for someday that gaff hoot up through the

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Speaker 1: bottom of my boat. I'd be like, he's back. We

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Speaker 1: made a shirt of an octopus with a gaff, but

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Speaker 1: it's gone. But anyways, on that episode, we were talking

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Speaker 1: about I can't remember, oh, we were talking about a vegan.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about vegan landlords that were in the

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Speaker 1: news for people which I supported the right to do this.

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Speaker 1: A landlord saying I'll rent to you, but if I

609
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Speaker 1: rent to you, you are not allowed to cook meat.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it, but I support that right because

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Speaker 1: I generally am like you know, I'm generally supportive of

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. So, and the thing to maintain

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Speaker 1: consistency to see in this world, it'd be like people

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Speaker 1: that get really worked up about First Amendment rights only

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Speaker 1: when their First Amendment rights are imperiled, but they're very

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Speaker 1: slow to defend First Amendment rights of their adversaries. So

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Speaker 1: the NC double A, not the NC double A. That's

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Speaker 1: the basketball people and the N DOUBLEACP. The N DOUBLEACP

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Speaker 1: will often defend the First Amendment rights of white supremacists

620
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Speaker 1: because there's so staunchly First Amendment that they'll defend the

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Speaker 1: First Amendment rights of people who'd probably like to kill them. So,

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Speaker 1: because I think that people should have more latitude to make,

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Speaker 1: you know, like just more latitude to make these sorts

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Speaker 1: of decisions around their own home and how you rent

625
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Speaker 1: your home, I was like, eh, okay, I don't like it,

626
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Speaker 1: but I would never tell someone that they should have

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Speaker 1: to rent a house to someone doing something like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just trying it on, so I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I'm committed there, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't there because this was recorded in Alaska, but

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Speaker 7: if I were there, I would have reminded you that.

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Speaker 7: In the Chettiquette episode with Luke Combs, we got a

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Speaker 7: question about a landlord who would not rent a home

634
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Speaker 7: to gun owners, and I told them the said.

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Speaker 5: Lie and do it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Well, if I heard from someone who if I heard

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Speaker 1: from someone who said, my landlord rendered me a house

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Speaker 1: and said I can't cook meat, but I'm thinking about

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Speaker 1: cooking some, I would say I think that you should.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: Sure, So I am. It is consistent. Okay, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: not like a judge. I'm not like judge Jude. I'm

643
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Speaker 1: very aware of you, just like I gots what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But this guy here has got a different situation, but

645
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Speaker 1: it made him think of it where he he's part

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Speaker 1: of the story. I don't understand. He used to live

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Speaker 1: in a rural area, but due to residency rules, had

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Speaker 1: to move into the city. What would that mean? Oh,

649
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Speaker 1: this is exactly what you're talking about. Uh No, English,

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Speaker 1: You lived by the horror mel factory.

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Speaker 5: Well I go down there. That's like two hour drive

652
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Speaker 5: north the south. Yeah, okay, you you yeah, when you

653
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Speaker 5: drive two hours.

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Speaker 1: From your home is the place where they make spam?

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And you're saying the executive leadership team at Spam.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in their bylaws, they have to live down in Austin, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this fella might have run into a similar

659
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Speaker 1: thing because he's saying, I used to live out in

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Speaker 1: the sticks, but because of residency rules, he had to

661
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Speaker 1: move into the city. Yeah, he's in Buffalo, New York.

662
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Speaker 1: So he's not working down there with Spam.

663
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but what one of the like, while you were

664
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Speaker 5: talking about that, if you talk to the landlord and

665
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Speaker 5: the landlord says, hey, you know, no cooking meat here,

666
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Speaker 5: is it okay? Just to move on to another apartment

667
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Speaker 5: or another house, Like, do you know what I'm saying,

668
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Speaker 5: because like that's what the landworth. Okay, cool, Oh yeah,

669
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Speaker 5: that's yeah, that's I would be in that situation where

670
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Speaker 5: they're like, you can't cook me, and here I'm.

671
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Like, okay, cool, I'm gonna move.

672
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll go find some in the place.

673
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, or I'm gonna cook it anyway, call the cops.

674
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Speaker 5: I I gotta throw this out there.

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Speaker 8: This is like the best article I've seen in a

676
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Speaker 8: long time, and it really strikes me because I used

677
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 8: to have to travel around the country with a practicing

678
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Speaker 8: vegan and that person was obnoxious, and it was adamant

679
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Speaker 8: that I go to these vegan restaurants in different places,

680
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Speaker 8: and I always was just like, it is not worth

681
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Speaker 8: my money. But my assumption was that the experience would

682
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Speaker 8: be a lot different than what it was. And I

683
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 8: was actually like appalled when I finally did sit down

684
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Speaker 8: at a vegan restaurant to see all of my food

685
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 8: terms on the menu.

686
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, the steal from you.

687
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I was like, well, what, like, I'm down for

688
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 8: a salad, but you have like it's bacon, yeah, reuben

689
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Speaker 8: and fries and so that I got to hand it

690
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Speaker 8: to whoever wrote this article, but it's called no more

691
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Speaker 8: Cordon bleuir. France's long running battle over vegan food names

692
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Speaker 8: has escalated as the government published a decree banning meaty

693
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Speaker 8: terms such as steak, grill or spare ribs being used

694
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Speaker 8: to describe plant based products.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of government overreach.

696
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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 8: That's what government overreach is. I have a fully embracing.

698
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Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, you know that we covered that

699
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: little dust up. I'm going to come back to the

700
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: story about this guy. But we covered that little dust

701
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: up where that dude, this is the weirdest thing is,

702
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's one story turned into another here.

703
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: So he got three stories up in the air. Story

704
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Speaker 1: one is this.

705
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 5: Well.

706
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: Story one is this fella here that we're talking about

707
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: who had to move to town because of the rules. Okay,

708
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: so hold that in your head. Story two is how

709
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: is this these French people in your situation? There's four stories.

710
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Story three is that we covered how a guy was

711
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: suing buffalo wild wings because they're boneless wings aren't wings?

712
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're technically not wings, but whatever.

713
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Speaker 1: Buffalo wild wings. Retort was, am I using retort in

714
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Speaker 1: the right way? Allow me to retort? Yeah? Yeah, Buffalo

715
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: wild wings retort was, we don't sell any buffalo. Our

716
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: hamburgers are not ham. Our chicken fingers are not chicken's fingers.

717
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: So it should not come to you as a great

718
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: surprise that our boneless wings are not wings.

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Speaker 5: In this article, they're just buffalo's wings either.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I'm into story four. In this article, they

721
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Speaker 1: interview some dude who is like a who's made this

722
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: whole issue like his axe to grind. But he's not

723
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Speaker 1: the litigant, he's not the person suing Buffalo wild but

724
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: he's a person who believes, and they talk about him

725
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: in the article that he believes they should be called

726
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: saucy Nugs, and somehow he weasels his way into the article.

727
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Speaker 1: I'm standing at a book event. I'm doing a book

728
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: signing event, and there's some guy in line that looks

729
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: like not like everybody else that would come to one

730
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: of my book signing events. Meaning most of my stuff

731
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: is like some dude in square toe cowboy boots with

732
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Speaker 1: like three kids, because it's.

733
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Speaker 5: A children's recognizable demographic.

734
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Speaker 1: But then here's this guy that I know said I've

735
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Speaker 1: been using a lot of people looking like weird Al

736
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: because I was talking about Gallagher the comedian. Here's a

737
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: guy that looks like young weird Al comes up to

738
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Speaker 1: me and basically he's there to tell me that they

739
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: should call him Saucy Nugs, but does not know that

740
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: we discussed this on the podcast. Like this guy independently

741
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: just goes to anywhere he can get an audience.

742
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: Wait, he was the guy that was in the article.

743
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Yes, that's about this in the pockets. He had no idea.

744
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: He's just I'm just he's just just Arilla market.

745
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: He's like sounds like there's going to be a crowd.

746
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to go down there and and and.

747
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 5: Protack, raise hell about Wow. Yeah, really that's amazing.

748
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Speaker 1: Back to story number one.

749
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Speaker 6: But if they call them saucy nugs, then some back

750
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 6: stoner could come in there and think that it's some

751
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 6: ganja and sue him for that.

752
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: Old man. You guys call weed saucy nugs.

753
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Speaker 6: I'm sure something out there.

754
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you want to talk about some saucy nugs.

755
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: You ever see uh Chester's tattoo on his arm?

756
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Speaker 6: Okay? Moving on too many stories.

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Speaker 8: This comes down to, uh, why the FDA exists, right,

758
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 8: like patent medicine, okay, And that is why you cannot

759
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 8: call a vegan whatever it is, sandwich a ruben sandwich. Yeah,

760
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 8: everybody knows corn beef okay, and pastrami does not cut

761
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 8: it as a ruben sandwich either.

762
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Before back of this guy had to move into town.

763
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Speaker 1: I do want to pick up what you're saying, because

764
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Speaker 1: it is frustrating what you're saying, and it would be

765
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Speaker 1: like if you're vegan. Besides, people that have like some

766
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: kind of major dietary reason they need to be vegan,

767
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Speaker 1: which I'm sure happens if you meet, you're gonna die

768
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, but normally I would guess

769
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Speaker 1: like ninety percent whatever the hell of vegans are for

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00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: ethical reasons. So they have come to a position where

771
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: they're saying, like I believe it is wrong to consume meat. Well,

772
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: say you have a give me another ethical infraction, do

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Speaker 1: like I don't want to do like pedophiles. Well that's

774
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: where I okay, I got it. Oh, no, go ahead.

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Speaker 8: It is it's like your sexual yet sexual preference is

776
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 8: is a perfect one. Like I am staunchly this way,

777
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 8: but I happen to put things in my mouth that

778
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 8: resemble this other thing. But don't confuse that because this

779
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 8: is the way I am.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you have a hog fetish cheepers, and you've

781
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Speaker 1: recognized that that is just wrong. That is not a thing.

782
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: That is not a thing you can be partaken in.

783
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: But then you come home with a hog suit. You

784
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Speaker 1: see where this is going.

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Speaker 5: No, is that better?

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Speaker 4: So this guy anyway, Hey, guys, this is Yiannis. I

787
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 4: got a special request for you. You've heard me talk

788
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: about it before, mentioning it again and asking again. But

789
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Speaker 4: I'm asking for you guys to all help and pitch

790
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: in to save that winter habitat in Vail, Colorado for

791
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: the big horn sheep. That was a proposed development for

792
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Speaker 4: employee housing, and there was a big to do there.

793
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Speaker 4: And finally the town of Vales figured out a way

794
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Speaker 4: to purchase the land from the company that was proposing

795
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: to develop it. And now they're gonna save it and

796
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: basically and turn it into a conservation. He's meant, and

797
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 4: they're also going to conserve more land in that area,

798
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: so it's actually a win win. It went from only

799
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Speaker 4: being twenty acres to now it's going to be over

800
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Speaker 4: one hundred acres of bighorn sheep habitat for the bighorn

801
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Speaker 4: sheep that lived in the Gore Range. I was lucky

802
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Speaker 4: enough to hunt there two years ago and killed a

803
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 4: ram in there. I wanted to keep that secret, but

804
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: this is a good reason to bring it out publicly.

805
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 4: John Hayes Taxi Jeremy did a full amount of that sheep,

806
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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna donate that sheep to the town of

807
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Speaker 4: Vale and they're going to use it as a as

808
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: a as a marker, as a memorial to this project

809
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: to forever memorialize the people and the conservation organizations. They're

810
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: gonna work hard to make this happen. So I'm super

811
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 4: stoked to be a part of this, and I hope

812
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: you can too. And remember, every little bit helps. They're

813
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: looking they have to raise about three million dollars. That's right,

814
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: you heard it right by October third. There's not a

815
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Speaker 4: lot of time. Obviously, it's going to take some people

816
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 4: with some big old bank accounts to kick down big.

817
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: But like I said, every little bit helps. So if

818
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 4: you just got a dollar or five or ten, I

819
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: would appreciate it if you kick down towards this. If

820
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Speaker 4: you're thinking, man, I'm not a Colorado big horn sheep hunter,

821
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 4: look at it this way. If someone else draws their

822
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: tag there, they might take away that tag that they

823
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 4: were trying to hunt in Nevada. Or if you are

824
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Speaker 4: a Colorado sheep hunter, if there's more sheep here, there's

825
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: more tags there. Even though you might not hunt there,

826
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: it might free up opportunities for you to hunt somewhere else. Okay,

827
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 4: So it is a win win for everybody, even if

828
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 4: you're not a hunter. This preserves wildlife, very cool wildlife

829
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: in a very cool place. So if you want to

830
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Speaker 4: help out, go to ww dot Veil Bighorn dot com

831
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: slash ways to help and you'll find a link where

832
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: you can donate. I think it actually takes you to

833
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: the wild Sheet Foundation. They're the ones that are managing

834
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Speaker 4: all these donations. And just make sure that you click

835
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: on Veil Bighorn to make sure that your donation goes

836
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 4: directly towards this project. So again www Dot Veil Bighorn

837
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: dot com slash ways to help, and again for me

838
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 4: and for the sheep of the Gore range, help them out.

839
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you, I really am.

840
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Speaker 8: This guy thought the door was open for your uh yeah,

841
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 8: and you gotta jump in on the vegan side of things.

842
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: But oh, anything to add I'm cutting a lot of

843
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: stuff up. But you got to get back to this guy.

844
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Speaker 5: Uh you know, yeah, like we even with what you know,

845
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 5: we we we. I actually wrote a little article about it.

846
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Speaker 5: I was I was asked once in a panel. You know,

847
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 5: you know, monk sausage is something that we make at

848
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 5: a restaurant, and it's it's an old recipe. My father

849
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 5: gave me, right, he passed it down and and you know,

850
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 5: we it became really just kind of popular around Minneapolis

851
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 5: and the way we make it, you know, And there

852
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 5: was a panelas who you know who or somebody asked.

853
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Speaker 1: Me, can you give us a brief descriptor a monk sausage? Yeah?

854
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it is uh our recipe we use. And

855
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 5: the thing that Dad showed me was seventy percent shoulder, uh,

856
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: thirty belly. And then the aromatics inside is lemongrass, ginger, garlic, shallots, fish, sauce, tie, chilies.

857
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 5: And then and then it's very important because the grind

858
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 5: is coarse. It's not a lot of people they do sausage.

859
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 5: They're more like Eastern European style, where it's you know,

860
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 5: you kind of get a multified Ours is more course

861
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 5: because because of the fat content so high that you

862
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 5: actually want that fat to render. And while you're grilling it,

863
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 5: you're not grilling at hot, you're kind of grilling at higher,

864
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 5: so it renders. Now yeah, you know, you know, you

865
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Speaker 5: know what I'm talking about renders. And and as it does.

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Speaker 1: That, you say you're not grilling it hot, you're grilling

867
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Speaker 1: it lower.

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Speaker 5: Yep. Sorry, So what I meant high was like higher

869
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Speaker 5: on the grill. Yeah, yeah, you know, And and and

870
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 5: you kind of let it go. And and you know,

871
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: I teach my a lot of our chefs and cooks

872
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: who cook with us, they aren't a lot of them

873
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: aren't munk. So I have the re like like re

874
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 5: engineer their mind to be like, no, we're not cooking this,

875
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 5: like if it was an Eastern European style, you know,

876
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 5: sausage is the Southeast Asian sausage is a little different. Anyways,

877
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 5: there was a lady asked and said, hey, you know,

878
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 5: would you ever can you know, She's like, I'm vegan,

879
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: can you make this sausage vegan? And I and I

880
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 5: I politely said to her no, because.

881
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: Because you realize this is one hundred percent made out

882
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: of like we got seventy.

883
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 5: This yeah, so yeah, absolutely, But I wasn't trying to

884
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 5: be meaner. But then I also said to her too,

885
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 5: that there's a legacy that comes along with this. See,

886
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 5: my father when he came to this country, he didn't

887
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: have anything, you know, he didn't have land, he didn't

888
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: have anything his name. But what he did was he

889
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: knew how to do this, and then he passed it

890
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: to me, you know, And it was one of those

891
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: things that as kids we learned how to do it

892
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 5: with him. And and for me, it's more than just

893
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: some recipe where I could just change it to people's preference.

894
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 5: It's like, no, we're we're gonna stick to this, you know.

895
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 5: And and so for me, it's it runs deeper in that.

896
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 5: And it to me, like there's sometimes food and I'm

897
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 5: a food guy, it runs deeper than that, you know,

898
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: just say oh, hey, like let's make this vegan ruben

899
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 5: whatever you know, and it's like yeah, but I we

900
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 5: always say with her on our restaurant is if if

901
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 5: when you eat something, be curious about it, like why

902
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 5: is it the way it is? And so that's where

903
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: I come from, especially with this whole like changing it

904
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 5: this way, changing it this way, And so that was

905
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 5: like my big thing. And then a lot of the

906
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: vegans got mad at me. And then you know, when

907
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 5: this article came out and they were like, oh my gosh,

908
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 5: like you you hate vegans, and I'm like, I never

909
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: said I hate vegans. I have you know, It's like

910
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 5: I never said that. I said that we choose to

911
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 5: make this this way and keep it this way when

912
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 5: we have people who aren't pork eaters, and they're like, well,

913
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 5: could you do it with chicken, I'm like, doesn't taste

914
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 5: the same, you know it. And to me why it's

915
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 5: so important to me was that this is part of

916
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: Dad's legacy. See, my father didn't have this, like he's

917
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 5: not like my parents don't have this thing with was like,

918
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 5: this is this land and we're gonna give this to

919
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 5: you when we pass away. No he didn't, but he

920
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 5: had these recipes. It's his legacy. Yeah, and it's like

921
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 5: we get to carry it and we get to pass

922
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: it down and so you know, yeah, we could probably

923
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 5: talk about this forever, but just this idea of like

924
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 5: what it means to me, mung is to carry down

925
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 5: these legacy, to carry down this you know, these things

926
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 5: that it's not written in a document anywhere, you know,

927
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 5: but we carried down from our parents and they took

928
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 5: it from their parents. And so for me, when it

929
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 5: became a vegan issue, I was just like, hey, this

930
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 5: is this is where I'm at. And then everyone just

931
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 5: you know, everyone on the.

932
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 8: Such a god ball thing, right, It's it's like really

933
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 8: an inappropriate question. It's like can you take that very

934
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 8: unique and special thing to you and then completely change

935
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 8: it for my personal.

936
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 5: Taste yeah, and that's I mean again.

937
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: Can you leave, man, I don't have any ill will

938
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: toward vegan I don't. Yeah, I like to laugh about it.

939
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. But then like even with the you know, the

940
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 5: article you're talking about, I'm like, I'm I'm firmly I

941
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 5: believe the way that you believe where it's like, you know,

942
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 5: like everyone like, if we're going to stand for like

943
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 5: the first time, I'm right, you know, if if we're

944
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 5: going to stand for that other side, we gotta know

945
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: we got to keep it consistent. We got to keep

946
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 5: it consistent, you know. And that's how I believe that

947
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: was Like, bro, go find another place to live. You know.

948
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you this dude's situation. He moves

949
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: to his neighborhood and they find out that he uh hunts,

950
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: and they start leaving them letters.

951
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 5: Oh boy, even to.

952
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: This point, this is I'm taking his word for it here.

953
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is what he said. He said.

954
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: He gets a letter that says this community is vegetarian

955
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: and doesn't greet with your hunting presence or the presence

956
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: of murdered meat in the neighborhood.

957
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 5: I'd love to know the size of the neighborhood. Yeah.

958
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: Uh, he's wondering what would you do to keep the neighborhood,

959
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: to keep things in the neighborhood's civil?

960
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 6: Man, I just can confuse if he's a hunter and

961
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 6: stuff and why he's living there? Was that, Like, how

962
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 6: would you know?

963
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 5: I mean, if it's a vegetarian neighborhood. I mean you

964
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 5: think they'd have a sign.

965
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 6: Was it in the contract? You sign a renter's agreement.

966
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 6: If he's not in the contract.

967
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 5: Meat, I agree with you. Yeah, if the landlord made

968
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 5: it very clearly.

969
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: No, No, this dude, I don't think this is that different,

970
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: pointing out that that just happens to me where he lives.

971
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Oh it was so he got a letter from a

972
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: neighbor saying that aut out the neighborhood. This is not

973
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: a formal thing. Oh yeah, So I think he's just

974
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: saying so outside of any rule break, and he's wondering,

975
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: how do you maintain stability.

976
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 5: I would invite them all over for a barbecue.

977
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: That's not gonna work.

978
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 5: Meat diplomacy.

979
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: You could have him over for a veggie barbecue and

980
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: then after say hey, let's let's chat because there's a

981
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: little problem.

982
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 4: I would just chat if you want to try it.

983
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: I have some of this freshly killed venison over here

984
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 4: that's pretty tasty. That ate nothing but plants.

985
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 5: I eat a lot of grilled zucchini this time of

986
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: year on the barbeque. That's good stuff. You know.

987
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: Just let me tell you what I think. Then I

988
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: want you to say what you think. They'll be the

989
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: final word. I think that he should go about his business,

990
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: but just don't don't rub their noses in it, like

991
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, I.

992
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 5: Mean, don't you.

993
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: Hang you here in your backyard just as well as

994
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: you can hang in your front yard. Hang in the backyard.

995
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I would.

996
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't know I would.

997
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 6: If he's getting all this these letters and stuff, there's

998
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 6: there's not much he can do about it other than

999
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 6: maybe talk to I would probably talk to the landlord

1000
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 6: and try and have a nice civil conversation, even though

1001
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 6: they might not understand that they make the choices that

1002
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 6: they do for reasons.

1003
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 5: I had anything to do with the landlord. There's nothing

1004
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 5: about renting. This is just his.

1005
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Neighbors hostile to These people are not going to be

1006
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: appeased until he quits hunting.

1007
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 6: Okay, well then, yeah, just keep to yourself or the

1008
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 6: people that are sending you the letters, because you know

1009
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: how I don't know how many people are sending him

1010
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 6: letters and stuff. Maybe just literally try and have a

1011
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 6: civil conversation with them and be like you guys, make

1012
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 6: the choices that you make for reasons that you stand by,

1013
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 6: and you know, please let me make the choices that

1014
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 6: I stand by, and you know I won't shove it

1015
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 6: in your face. I won't be roasting a pig in

1016
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 6: my front yard. I'll cook it.

1017
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 5: I'd put a chunk of bloody hide maybe in their mailbox.

1018
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 5: That is a phenomenal movie.

1019
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 6: Try and keep it to yourself.

1020
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 8: The kill them with kindness. I'm a big like you

1021
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 8: can just grind people down with kindness and you kind

1022
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 8: of get satisfaction out of it because you know, it's

1023
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 8: just like irksome. But they can't say anything, they can't respond.

1024
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 6: They'll even get send more letters.

1025
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 8: But I had the impression that when I was living

1026
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 8: in and catch them, the neighbors across the street from

1027
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 8: me did not like me for whatever reason, no idea,

1028
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 8: And I was always cordial and uh, you know, would

1029
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 8: wave when they pull in or whatever. But kind of

1030
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 8: a wide street it's not like it was forced interaction

1031
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 8: at all.

1032
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

1033
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 8: And one day I look out the window and I

1034
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 8: was always out and about working on the place, running

1035
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 8: a chop saw in the front yard and stuff like that,

1036
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 8: but not like would be like normal business hours, not

1037
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 8: crazy early or crazy late. One day I look across

1038
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 8: the street and here's mom, dad, the two kids, a

1039
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 8: dog like little nuclear family, and they have a brand

1040
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 8: new refrigerator in the box in the back of this

1041
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 8: guy's pickup and they're trying to negotiate this thing out

1042
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 8: and it's not going well. And so I drop what

1043
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 8: I what I'm doing, run across the street. I'm like, hey,

1044
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 8: can I help you?

1045
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 5: And they're like, eah no. And I was.

1046
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 8: Like, ah, you really look like can I just help

1047
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 8: and kind of force the issue a little bit in

1048
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 8: you know, fifteen seconds had the refrigerator out safely. Now

1049
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 8: it's on the ground, they have a dolly. I'm like,

1050
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 8: I can help you get inside, and they're like nope,

1051
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 8: and literally never spoke to me from that day forward.

1052
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, just bizarre. Some people are just that way.

1053
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: Couldn't kill them with kindness.

1054
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, The moral of the story is, some people are

1055
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 8: just that way. Right, It's like doesn't matter what you do.

1056
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 8: So I wouldn't go out of my way to change

1057
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 8: my life. But you know they're miserable inside their house

1058
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 8: writing letters and you gotta understand that too.

1059
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I've I've learned too, man, like hurt people

1060
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 5: hurt people. You know, like people that are hurt, they

1061
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: hurt people because it's like you have all this bs

1062
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 5: inside of you and you got to project it somewhere.

1063
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 5: And then being hurt sometimes, like they hurt people. And

1064
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 5: that's where I mean, I've I've learned that in my

1065
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: lifetime is hurt people hurt people. And sometimes that's like

1066
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 5: the final answer, and I'm like, yeah, that's it, you know,

1067
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 5: that's there's nothing else, nothing you're gonna do. Yeah, nothing

1068
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 5: you can do about it until you know, they get

1069
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 5: help or until they you know, recognize that hurt or

1070
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 5: until they you know, confront that hurt. You know.

1071
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: Uh, can y'all can you tell me how your name

1072
00:54:59,040 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: changed over time?

1073
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1074
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: So the name given to me at birth was Yeah,

1075
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: so you actually can have two years in the studio.

1076
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: The story is I was very sick and then the

1077
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: moon culture. You know, sometimes they you know, there's there's

1078
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: a lot to do with the namesake. And so in

1079
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: the Moon culture, sometimes when you just don't get better,

1080
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: they change your name oh to you and and they'll

1081
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: they'll say, do you know.

1082
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: What was the I mean, did you have a specific

1083
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: ailment or you just weren't thriving?

1084
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: Now they just said, I was just sick all the time.

1085
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: And so you know, one one of the first I

1086
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: guess you could sell. You could say it in remedy.

1087
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: They'll maybe consult with the shaman. And then a lot

1088
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: of times they'll just say, hey, maybe you just need

1089
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: to change his name. And actually, in this case, my

1090
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 2: parents gave me to my aunt uncle and my uncle

1091
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 2: was the deacon of the Catholic.

1092
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 5: Church, and so they gave me to go live with

1093
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 5: my aunt uncle.

1094
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: And because you weren't doing well, because.

1095
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing well, and so I want to say,

1096
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: this is when I was just a few months old

1097
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: even and so he since he was a Catholic, a

1098
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: deacon Catholic church, he uh the translated there's a translated

1099
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: Bible in mung So and in the in there John

1100
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: the Baptist. Uh the name translated in mung is jah.

1101
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: So I shared this when I was here the first time,

1102
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: my name is my name is Jah and Mun and

1103
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: so he named me after John, renamed me John the Baptist. Uh,

1104
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: my name after John Baptist in the mung translated version

1105
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: of the Bible. And I got better and then he

1106
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: gave me they gave me.

1107
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 5: Back to my parents, so and so yeah, so in

1108
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 5: our culture it's animism, right, So it's the belief of,

1109
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 5: you know, the the ancestors of the are the good

1110
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 5: spirits and their evil spirits. So when yeah, I was young,

1111
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 5: I I you know, this is from what I've learned.

1112
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 5: I bet you it was probably like, Okay, we're going

1113
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 5: to change his name because we're going to attract to

1114
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 5: trick the evil spirits who's making him sick to think

1115
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 5: that it's a different person. So that's the changing of

1116
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: the name. And so I have friends who have had

1117
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 5: name changes and stuff like that. And then even even

1118
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 5: that whole idea of like the like what the name

1119
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 5: carries along with it in the meaning. And so my

1120
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 5: name yeah, which you know, yeah, I used to be yea.

1121
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 5: It literally translates to iron skillet or fry. Yeah. Yeah,

1122
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: So as you go into it, and I dude, I

1123
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 5: hated it.

1124
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: Growing up, man, are you kidding me?

1125
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 5: It is strong. I think you might think it's cool,

1126
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 5: but not when you were seven years old and you're

1127
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 5: with all your cousins then like hey, where's the yea

1128
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 5: And then they'll be like no him, like no, not him,

1129
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 5: like you know, you made got made fun of.

1130
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: It's not a common name.

1131
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 5: Oh no, not not really. It's how many years do

1132
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 5: you guys know? Not a few one here. But but

1133
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 5: here's the deal. My youngest brother's name is which means

1134
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 5: blessing of God literal translationist blessing of God. So we

1135
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 5: have no question. We can absolutely so we have. So

1136
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 5: we have like you know, like a like a pan,

1137
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 5: an iron skiller, and then we have blessing of God.

1138
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: You know it's like, dude, come on, we know how okay,

1139
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: how how directly does that mean iron skillet?

1140
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 5: It's literal little like yah means the iron skiller or

1141
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 5: the walk or the you know, the pan, the frying pan. Yeah. Yeah,

1142
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 5: I hated it growing up.

1143
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Well, okay, can I tell you them?

1144
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: When I got my citizens, I.

1145
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Got one more question about about the name, just to

1146
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: make sure I was talking about being out on book tour.

1147
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: When I was on a book tour, I met a

1148
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: kid and his name was Talon, which that was a

1149
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: great name. His name's town. So clearly it's a you know,

1150
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: the foot of a predatory bird. But it's a name.

1151
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: So when I hear Talent, because it's not a common name,

1152
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: I make the thing that like, oh, that name means

1153
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: a raptor's claw. If I meet an Autumn, I'm like,

1154
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: autumn is a name. But if she were to go

1155
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: to another country and they speak a different language and

1156
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: people are like, what does your name mean? And she

1157
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: would say, well, my name, my name's autumn. It means

1158
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: the season between summer and winter. That might seem noteworthy

1159
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: to someone, But then this autumn would be obligated to say.

1160
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: But it's so common, no one thinks of it that

1161
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: way because it's so integrated into naming. So if your

1162
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: name's iron skillet, it's enough that people like, hold on

1163
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: your name's iron skillet, or is it so integrated that

1164
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: it's not noteworthy?

1165
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 5: So so the little translation is iron skillet, you know,

1166
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 5: or walk or whatever, you know, an iron skillet, iron pan.

1167
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: But my mom said, the metaphorical name represents like like

1168
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 5: an an iron skiller pan is uh, it's uh, it's

1169
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: a vessel you use to cook with. And she said

1170
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 5: that what she said to me was that it means

1171
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 5: that like you will be a servant of men, like

1172
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: in a good way, like not in a you know

1173
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 5: what I mean, like like to serve or to help,

1174
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 5: you know.

1175
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: Really.

1176
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 5: But yeah, but then I'm like, dude, he got blessing

1177
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,479
Speaker 5: of God. You know, it literally means blessing of God,

1178
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 5: you know. But nah, man, it's it's one of those things. Yeah,

1179
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 5: I mean he's I love my little his name again,

1180
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 5: hon or, Yeah, go home?

1181
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: What what what does American bodies call him?

1182
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 5: So it's spelled kob mob that's the monk spelling. So

1183
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 5: growing up they just called him coub kob. So he's

1184
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 5: called Kube or kooby. Yeah.

1185
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: So and to pronounce his name again for me.

1186
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 5: And it's or sometimes we just say moan.

1187
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: So how how would how would how does how would

1188
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: a native speaker say your name? Very similar to what

1189
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: we're saying?

1190
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you would? I get my name butchered all

1191
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 5: the time. So when I got my citizenship, they asked

1192
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 5: the last question to ask you is would you like

1193
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 5: to have a new name because you can take on

1194
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 5: like an American name, uh the immigration officer. Yeah, seriously,

1195
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you can get it, dude. I had in college.

1196
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: I had a list of like what names and all

1197
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 5: my buddies can pick, you know, And it was like I

1198
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 5: literally when he when she said this, and I was

1199
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 5: sitting in the office with her, I almost want to

1200
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 5: be like Optimist Prime, please call me. That would be myself,

1201
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 5: that would be my government name, Optimist Prime.

1202
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 10: Thang, can you imagine getting like credit card statements from

1203
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 10: Optimist Prime, you know, like, dude that or Chad, yeah,

1204
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 10: location he pays, Like, hey mx Oultimate is prime here?

1205
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you know what I could do to this place?

1206
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 5: Oh dude, I know it was that or it was

1207
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: like chatter Trevor. I joked. I always joked about that,

1208
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 5: you know, just get a good white name, a good strong.

1209
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: Did you know did you know people? Well, first off,

1210
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: how old were you?

1211
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 5: Oh, when I got a citizenship was like two years ago,

1212
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 5: three years ago? Yeah, it was pretty recent. Yeah, yeah,

1213
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 5: I just kind of waited.

1214
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, you only became a US citizen two or

1215
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: three years ago?

1216
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what year did you move to the US?

1217
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 5: Eighty eight? So it was.

1218
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: It was a lot what ages you moved to the US.

1219
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 5: I was four and a half five, so started kindergarten

1220
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 5: right away.

1221
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: So give me the base chronology where and when you

1222
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: were born. Yeah, it's the flow because I know you

1223
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: mentioned the refugee camp.

1224
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so my parents met in bonvina I, which is

1225
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 5: a very you know, famous, big refuge It's the largest

1226
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 5: refugee camp northern Thailand. It's like ten kilometers off the

1227
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 5: borders of a Louse in Thailand. That's where a lot

1228
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 5: among people came to after the war.

1229
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 6: That's where my dad spent peace corps there for four

1230
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 6: years teaching small engines.

1231
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: One stuff.

1232
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 5: What year, I mean, what are the years? Do you know?

1233
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 6: A while ago?

1234
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 5: Like what year was he there?

1235
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 6: Like, you know, I'm not sure, but it was it

1236
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 6: was wild, like probably like.

1237
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: Howl shooting attacks Chester maybe they.

1238
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And actually I think Yea's family and my family

1239
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: overlapped in the in the camp.

1240
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 5: When did you guys leave? We left in eighty okay, yeah,

1241
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 5: we left in eighty eight. Yeah, my dad had a

1242
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 5: chance to leave early, but then he stayed because my

1243
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 5: dad fought in the war, and you know, and it's

1244
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 5: man just to hear their stories of what they did

1245
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 5: running missions for the CIA in US government, you know,

1246
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 5: Northern last there.

1247
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: Y'all sent me. Y'all sent me a great book about

1248
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: all those campaigns.

1249
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 5: What was that book called, y'all Tragic Tragic Mountains, A

1250
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 5: good one.

1251
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he sent me the details all those campaigns.

1252
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 5: And he goes back and for the history too, like

1253
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 5: you know, you know, fighting with the French back in

1254
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 5: the day and just like you know, back. But yeah,

1255
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 5: it was a good book. Eighty eight we left. We

1256
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 5: landed in Saint Paul, Minnesota, so yeah, and came there

1257
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 5: and then we moved out.

1258
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: To like your own back up on your folks met

1259
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: as refugees.

1260
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. So my dad fought in the war. He escaped,

1261
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 5: my mom. They escaped. They had a horrible time. They

1262
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 5: got caught, were put in prison camps by the communists.

1263
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 5: Finally escaped that and then in seventy seven they met

1264
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 5: in the camp and then in seventy eight they got

1265
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 5: married and then they were there until eighty eight, So

1266
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 5: ten years they.

1267
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: Were there, ten years in the camp.

1268
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they were because the moment, people were stuck,

1269
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 5: because the Americans didn't want them, because They're like, I

1270
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 5: don't know, it's the Thai government was like, dude, we

1271
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 5: don't like we're borders with Laos and Laos doesn't like

1272
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 5: you guys, so we don't want to you know. So

1273
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 5: literally it was this really awkward like even among people

1274
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 5: that were born in the camp at that time, where

1275
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 5: they weren't they're not. I'm not considered a citizen of Thailand,

1276
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 5: you know, because but I was born in Thailand, so

1277
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 5: I am.

1278
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: But your family came from your parents were loud born, yep,

1279
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: but they don't hold I mean, there's no citizenship for them.

1280
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 5: For do you have a second citizenship somewhere? No? No, no.

1281
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 5: I was just kind of you're.

1282
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: Like a citizenless person, a citizenshipless person. Yeah.

1283
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 5: But you know, but one of the crazy things is

1284
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 5: like when I got my citizenship, a buddy of mine

1285
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 5: who you know, his friend, came to me. It is

1286
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, and he said, hey, why

1287
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 5: would you want to be a citizen of America? Like

1288
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 5: right now, like America, like things weren't you know, I

1289
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 5: mean this is after, you know, like things aren't going

1290
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 5: too hot for America. Why would you want to be

1291
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 5: a citizen in America, and I'm like, bro, you were

1292
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 5: born here. You know, you became a citizen when you

1293
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 5: were born here, like my grandparents and my parents fought

1294
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 5: a war to get me here. It's a little I

1295
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 5: feel like it was a little different for me, you know,

1296
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 5: like I always talk about I was talking about this

1297
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 5: scene from Saving Private Ryan. You know at the end

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01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 5: when uh, you know Tom Hanks character Captain Miller, you know,

1299
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 5: he's dying and he looks at uh.

1300
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: Tom dies in the end of Saving Private Yeah.

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01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 5: Spoiler, Like, come on, you know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah,

1302
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 5: it's like slow bleedout.

1303
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: I know that movie really devolved. Like it starts out

1304
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: like all this grand Dday and then there's that they

1305
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: have that you know, it kind of centers in on

1306
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: that really bad german.

1307
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 5: It's like a clock winding down. Yeah. And then at

1308
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 5: the end, in the end, yeah, at the end, well

1309
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 5: remember because they all died finding Private Ryan, right, and

1310
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 5: and he whispers Captain Miller to prior. Ryan whispers and says,

1311
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 5: earn this earned this. And then you know, and then

1312
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 5: it goes into like the present and he's you know,

1313
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 5: he's this old guy now that he's standing over Captain

1314
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 5: Miller's grave and he looks at his wife and he's

1315
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 5: an old grandpa and goes, did I live a good life?

1316
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 5: You know? And I I tell people.

1317
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: So Tom Hanks meaning earned the sacrifice that was made.

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01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 5: Absolutely and and that to me, that's a it's a

1319
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 5: good haunting I have that. When I got my citizenship,

1320
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 5: I was I thought about my grandpa. I never met

1321
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 5: my dad's dad who died in this war, and the

1322
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 5: sacrifices they made, and all my some of my uncles

1323
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 5: who have passed away in the war to get us

1324
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 5: here right. So I've learned that freedom isn't free. Like

1325
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 5: you might not have paid for it, but somebody did.

1326
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 5: And that's and and and even understanding like like themong

1327
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 5: like are like some of our dads and our grandpas

1328
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 5: who fought for America before they even were given the

1329
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 5: ability to step foot in America. So they fought for

1330
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 5: a country that later on denied them. And I, to me,

1331
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 5: that's true patriotm That's where I think, like man like,

1332
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 5: that's what really wrapped in my head as I got older,

1333
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, I want to be a citizen because there

1334
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 5: comes a point for me where I'm like what am

1335
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 5: I doing with the sacrifice that was done for me?

1336
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 5: And that's why it was really important for me to

1337
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 5: go through that process to become a citizen and to

1338
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 5: be able to talk about it and to honor them,

1339
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 5: to honor their legacy, to honor who they are through

1340
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 5: and it's as simple as through the food we make

1341
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 5: and we get to talk about that. It's so cool.

1342
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 5: We get to travel the country. I get to do

1343
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 5: shows and talk about the legacies of you know, my father,

1344
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 5: my grandfather by the sacrifices they made for this country.

1345
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 5: And I get to talk about that by cooking mung food.

1346
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 5: And so that's why one of the things I get

1347
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 5: really excited about.

1348
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 1: You know, I want to get back into a little

1349
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: bit of stuff from early in your life. But I know,

1350
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: I think that growing up in I grew up in Michigan,

1351
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: spent a lot of my life in Montana, a handful

1352
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: of other states as well. I know about among people

1353
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: through the lens of hunting. Yeah, it's like I feel

1354
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: like if I didn't if I didn't know all there's

1355
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 1: these uh, if I didn't know that there was these

1356
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: avid hunters in the US that came from laos as refugees,

1357
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't know about Mung culture. I know it

1358
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: through the hunting lens. If you're a Mung chef and

1359
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: you're bringing a cuisine around, I have to imagine that

1360
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: at times you need to go. Before we get to

1361
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: the food, let me explain that we exist. Meaning everyone

1362
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: holds in their head like all Americans hold in their

1363
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 1: head like, oh Max food. Yeah, it's this country to

1364
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: the south of US. They speak Spanish. I got the

1365
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: basic gist. But to say to most people Mung food, well,

1366
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Speaker 1: I mean most I would say, the majority of people

1367
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: aren't gonna know what the hell you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, true or not true? Completely true. So you know,

1369
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 5: if you know, I get some craft from I call

1370
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 5: them hardliner among people, They're like, you aren't making real

1371
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 5: Munk food. It's blah blah blah blah. You're bastarizing your food.

1372
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 5: You make money, they do that.

1373
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: Oh dude, yeah, that's not that you're not suffering that.

1374
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, yeah, every every you know, every culture

1375
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 5: has that right your own people kind of like you know.

1376
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 5: So one of the things I say within our restaurant,

1377
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 5: we have this mantra we always say, we say every

1378
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 5: dish has a narrative. If you follow that dish long

1379
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 5: enough and close enough, you get to the people behind

1380
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 5: the food. And once you're there, it's actually not about food.

1381
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 5: It's about people. That food is a catalyst into cultivating

1382
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 5: great relationships. So that's why I ask people. Every time

1383
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 5: you eat a food and you go, hey, I want

1384
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 5: to change it or it should be changed this way,

1385
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 5: you know how we were talking about, I always go, hey,

1386
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 5: ask yourself why it was made like that? Because if

1387
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 5: you follow the story, you follow those crumbs, I bet

1388
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: you, you get to the people and once you get there,

1389
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 5: you get to know their story, and then it opens

1390
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 5: your eyes of saying, this is why the food is

1391
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 5: done this way, you know. And So I grew up

1392
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 5: not wanting to cook munk food. I didn't want to

1393
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 5: be a cook at all. Dude, I went to school

1394
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 5: for all this stuff. Like I graduated college with a

1395
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 5: degree in interpersonal communication and minor in PR and marketing.

1396
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,879
Speaker 5: Like I wanted to run as far as I could.

1397
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,440
Speaker 1: From what does interpersonal communication?

1398
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 5: So you work with a lot of it's kind of

1399
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 5: one on one from when you majoring that you can

1400
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 5: go to grad school, you can do you can teach

1401
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 5: it and then you can work like doing counseling, you know, counseling,

1402
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 5: you know, therapy, you can do all that, you know

1403
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 5: after that.

1404
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: But you were raised eating mung food.

1405
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, dude, Like yeah, like that that was it.

1406
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 5: That's what mom knew how to cook, and that's what

1407
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 5: we ate and it was incredible. But yeah, but at

1408
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 5: the end of the thay too. I'm a Wisconsin boy, right,

1409
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 5: So Culver's you know, double cheeseburger, but burger from Culvers,

1410
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 5: come on, man, like, you know, like cheese curs. I

1411
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 5: am mad at dan, you know, you know.

1412
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 6: So, yeah makes what's that saying? Makes butterburger better?

1413
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 5: Like yeah, better brand of beef.

1414
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 6: Better brand of beef, makes a butter burger better.

1415
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. So like growing up, it was like, yeah, do

1416
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 5: you like munk food or do you like American food?

1417
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 5: Or the mong word for American is mika. Like do

1418
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 5: you like meeka food or like American food? I'm like yes,

1419
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 5: like I could like both. Right, What's I means mung

1420
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 5: It's it's the it's the long way of saying American.

1421
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So I thought it was like an abbreviate.

1422
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: It's like a shortened version.

1423
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so so so our parents couldn't say American,

1424
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 5: you know, but in their accident of alliteration, it came

1425
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 5: out mika. So so when so when you're around among

1426
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 5: people and you hear they're probably talking about you, guys, honest?

1427
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: So when when?

1428
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 5: Uh?

1429
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: Okay? I was want to understand the relationship to mung

1430
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: food and American food for a prior generation. So your

1431
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: parents had long history and their home country. Were they

1432
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: when you were kid and you guys went out If

1433
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: kids are like, hey, I go to McDonald's, did they

1434
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: embrace that or were they reluctant to get into that

1435
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: because it would mean that it would take you down

1436
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: this path of moving away from mung food, moving away

1437
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: from mung culture or were they like down with America

1438
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: not down like yeah yeah yeah yeah that comes out wrong.

1439
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1440
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: Did they embrace sort of like fast food culture or

1441
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: did they resist it because it would be a forfeiture

1442
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 1: of culture? Yeah?

1443
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 5: I mean I think my parents it was survival. It

1444
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 5: wasn't like hey, like so right, now I get this

1445
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 5: great opportunity to talk about the in depth understanding of

1446
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 5: mung food and whatever it represents. My parents grown up

1447
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 5: it was like, how do we work our job that

1448
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 5: we're getting paid eight bucks an hour? And how do

1449
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 5: we provide for our family? So it wasn't like they

1450
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 5: had this moment of like, oh, like, let me think

1451
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 5: about how our food can influence the way that our

1452
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 5: kids think about our culture. No, it was like what

1453
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: can we scrounge around to survive? So sometimes if it's

1454
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 5: a buck nine nine happy meal at McDonald's back in

1455
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 5: the day when it was bucket nine, and I remember that, boys, uh,

1456
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 5: you know, like then that was it.

1457
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: You know.

1458
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 5: Some days, you know, you know, some days it's like

1459
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 5: if some noodle dish, some blinklot dish or whatever, you know,

1460
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 5: like and then they had to make it work with

1461
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 5: the and with the garden and they just pull stuff

1462
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 5: from the vegetables from the garden. Then that was it,

1463
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 5: you know. But what what I get to do is

1464
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 5: I get to look back on those moments because I

1465
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 5: have the privilege now to look back and think about that.

1466
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 5: I have the privilege to dissect and break down the

1467
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 5: thoughts of like how this what this food represents for

1468
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 5: our people because they sacrifice and they worked so hard

1469
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 5: for for me, you know, and so yeah, I don't

1470
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 5: think that, you know, because I think that we do

1471
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 5: a lot of shows and stuff like that, and I

1472
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 5: think that they are editors and you know, producers who

1473
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 5: want to give me this like this like beautiful like

1474
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 5: and you know Netflix Chef's table kind of like you

1475
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 5: stood there with your mom and you guys made sticky

1476
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 5: rice together. I'm like, dude, it wasn't like that, you know,

1477
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 5: like there's not that you know what I'm saying, where

1478
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 5: it's like all chef has is like beautiful story of

1479
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 5: like sitting with grandma. She's teaching you how to make whatever.

1480
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 5: It's like no, man like they were hustling all the time,

1481
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 5: Like you know, we ate instant ramen, you know, we

1482
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 5: ate you know, I learned how to cook fried eggs

1483
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 5: with tomatoes, you know, and stuff like that. Those are

1484
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 5: the things we did. There's nothing sexy about it. It

1485
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 5: was tough. We lived on food stamps, you know, yeah,

1486
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 5: and it was like but like man like to me,

1487
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 5: I feel so blessed to be in a position where

1488
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 5: I am, where we get to interact with people who

1489
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 5: value food at a very high economic level, you know,

1490
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 5: where it's like they're willing to pay a lot of

1491
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 5: money for food, and we also get to tell this

1492
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 5: incredible story that comes along with it.

1493
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, did your folks raise food when you're growing up?

1494
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: You talk about having.

1495
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 5: Guard Yeah, man, you know you understanding among people. We

1496
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 5: so right now, my parents, you know, they're in their seventies,

1497
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 5: they're retired. They have a ten acre farm, right she

1498
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 5: my mom calls it a little garden, but it's ten

1499
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 5: acres and everything they grow every year they harvest it

1500
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 5: and bring over to the restaurant. So yeah, and that's

1501
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 5: what it is. Oh dude, Yeah, So.

1502
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: Your restaurant serves food at your folks raise.

1503
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, that's the whole point of the restaurant. Like

1504
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 5: you know, like what you know, we just got done

1505
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 5: with the state fair, you know. So so in Minnesota

1506
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 5: state fair is huge. It's like this year they had

1507
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 5: one point eight million people walk through in twelve days. Right.

1508
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 5: And so my mom makes these gallipau where there are

1509
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 5: these steam buns. Right. So she makes these steam by

1510
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 5: as a family tradition. And this year we sold a

1511
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 5: little bit over twenty three thousand of them. And so

1512
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 5: my mom and my aunt and three church four church

1513
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 5: ladies made twenty three thousand of these you know, steam buns,

1514
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 5: and that's I mean, that's my mom has this thing

1515
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 5: where she says, I don't know business, I don't know math,

1516
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 5: but my hands have been taking care of you for

1517
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 5: the last almost forty years until the day I die.

1518
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:50,839
Speaker 5: I will always take care of you. If my hands

1519
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 5: can make it and I can produce it, I will

1520
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 5: do it for you, you know. And so it's like

1521
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 5: when you.

1522
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: Hear stuff like that, Mom, Bro, when.

1523
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 5: You hear stuff like that, how huge not not keep

1524
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 5: talking about them? You know, And so like I get

1525
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 5: super emotional about it. But like, man, it's like, no quit.

1526
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 5: She's in her seventies, no quit. She's out working half

1527
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 5: our chefs, you know. And I love it. And it's

1528
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 5: not something where I asked her to, but she's just like,

1529
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 5: this is what we do. This is how we help

1530
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 5: each other. This is what we do. And that's what

1531
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 5: I love about our culture. You know, there's no quit.

1532
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 5: It is if we come together, we can you know,

1533
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 5: we can accomplish more. Dad told me that the Mung culture,

1534
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 5: in the Mung people, what happened was hundreds and hundreds

1535
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 5: of years ago. There's always this argument between the eighteen clans,

1536
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 5: right who is the rifle like clan name to to

1537
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 5: be to lead these people. Right, so it's like this fight,

1538
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 5: it's a game of Throne style, right, it's like what

1539
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 5: clan should be the you know, it is the direct

1540
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 5: line for the first Monk Empire. And you know they

1541
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 5: didn't argue about the plan.

1542
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm a Vang Yeah yeah, you're Yangyanglan yeah yeah.

1543
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 5: And so it's like game of throne whatever it kind

1544
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 5: of deal and which plan is better? I don't know. Yeah,

1545
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 5: everyone always yeah, but that's how it is. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1546
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 5: cool from you got it, you win, you know. But

1547
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 5: but but what Dad said that during the war, during

1548
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 5: the genocide of our people, So you have to realize

1549
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 5: that in the Mountain of Laws, there's about three hundred

1550
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 5: thousand moongk people that live there. Through the genocide or

1551
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 5: the Mong people. After the war and nineteen seventy five

1552
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 5: there about fifty five thousand Mong people were killed, just slaughtered.

1553
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 5: So think about that fifty five thousand to sixty thousand

1554
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 5: Mong people killed and thirty it was about three hundred

1555
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 5: thousand people there. And he said he got so bad

1556
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 5: that the eighteen clans came together and said we can't

1557
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 5: fight anymore about which clan should be the number one.

1558
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 5: We have to unite, and if we don't unite, our

1559
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 5: children will never be free. They will live in war.

1560
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 5: And Dad said that they made this commitment, that eighteen

1561
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 5: clans made this commitment to each other, says no more

1562
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 5: will we fight. We have to come together. And you know,

1563
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 5: I always say that if you want to know our food,

1564
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 5: you have to know our story. Right, it is kind

1565
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 5: of what you were asking me. And I always say

1566
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 5: that our cultural DNA is intricately woven into the foods

1567
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 5: that we eat as Mung people. And I asked my

1568
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 5: mom what's the best way to describe Mong people to

1569
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 5: people who have are munk food to people who haven't

1570
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 5: eat Munk food before, And she said, balance, because you

1571
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 5: look at Mung food, we have four basic element always

1572
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 5: on the table. There's a rice, there's some kind of protein,

1573
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 5: there's a vegetable, and sometimes I have vegetables in a broth,

1574
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 5: and then there's a hot sauce. And she said, out

1575
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 5: of all those four elements on the table, one is

1576
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 5: never better than the other because we need all of

1577
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 5: them together to make this complete meal. So I always

1578
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 5: get asked, what's your favorite mung dish. I'm like, I

1579
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 5: can't talk about you know, the grilled pork that my

1580
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 5: dad taught me how to make the grill over a fire.

1581
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 5: I can't talk about that without talking about the sticky rice.

1582
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 5: We well, i can't talk about the sticky rice unless

1583
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the whatsal, which is, you know, the

1584
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 5: pepper sauce and man, the mung mustard green we have that.

1585
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 5: You know that the mom girls in her garden has

1586
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 5: this bite that cuts through the porkiness and the fattiness

1587
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 5: of the pork, So you need that too. So I

1588
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 5: can't talk about one dish. It's all about a combination

1589
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 5: of one. And you know, in the last few years

1590
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 5: of me being able to do the show Fair Oh

1591
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 5: for Outdoor and being able to meet all these different people,

1592
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 5: I've really learned that the Mong mentality when it comes

1593
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 5: to life and food, it's basically conservationism. It is this

1594
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 5: idea that everything is on a balance, it's an ecosystem.

1595
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 5: If one thing goes wrong, like for example, like if

1596
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 5: the if the sticky rice, yeah yeah, I knows what

1597
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 5: I mean. If the sticky rice is not on the table,

1598
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 5: It's like you don't start eating, It's like, nah, and

1599
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 5: we need the rice there first.

1600
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have.

1601
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 5: We used to like we used to forget about putting

1602
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 5: the pepper, the hot sauce on there, and my mom

1603
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 5: would stop dinner and we would quickly make it and

1604
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 5: then put it on the dinner before it comes together.

1605
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 5: And it's this idea that this is, this is an ecosystem.

1606
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 5: Everything needs to work. And that's what I think about

1607
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 5: Monk's food. And when I talk about the philosophy of

1608
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 5: munk food, that's what I'm talking about, you know.

1609
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 1: So in the most in the most basic sentence level way, Yeah,

1610
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: how do you what would you say, like, what is

1611
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: mung food?

1612
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? So I always say the munk food isn't a

1613
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 5: type of food. It's a philosophy of food, you know.

1614
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 5: And what is that philosophy. It's the philosophy that we

1615
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 5: live in a living world around us and using the

1616
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 5: living world around us to make food that nourishes our

1617
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 5: soul and brings our community together. And the great thing

1618
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 5: about munk food, and this is what I love, and

1619
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 5: I'll get pushed back from some of the hardliners, is

1620
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 5: that munk food is not it's represented of what regions

1621
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 5: we're in so we're scattered all around. Did you know

1622
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 5: that in nineteen eighty six hundred Mongk people resides in Missoula.

1623
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 5: They can't do that.

1624
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they dominated the market.

1625
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 5: Absolutely because we are people of you know, the ground,

1626
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 5: you know.

1627
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: But I feel like a French person that lives in

1628
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,799
Speaker 1: the French countryside. If I said, like, what is traditional

1629
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,520
Speaker 1: French food, they could say the sentence you just said, yep, absolutely,

1630
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: And so I said, there's got to be another way

1631
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 1: to describe mung food.

1632
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 5: Well, I what I what I talked about with munk

1633
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 5: food is that like, like our story is involved in its.

1634
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 5: So for example, my dad always said to me, no

1635
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 5: matter where you are in the world, wherever you go,

1636
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 5: if you find another monk person there, you always find family.

1637
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 5: So the kind of you know what we talked about

1638
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 5: in the beginning, right, like, yeah, if I like, I

1639
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 5: go to Idaho somewhere and I see another Munk family,

1640
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, WHOA, what's up? You know? And but we

1641
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 5: share that same history, right, That's what happens when you

1642
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 5: have an you don't have a country of your own, right,

1643
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 5: And so I would say that if you want to

1644
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 5: talk about flavor profile our flavor is representative of Southeast Asia.

1645
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 5: So you know, you got you know, you got your

1646
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 5: lemon grass, you got your gingers, you got your you know, garlic,

1647
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 5: you know a lot a lot of you know, you're

1648
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 5: kind of like the weird cousin to like Loo Thai

1649
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 5: Vietnamese food. You know, you know a little bit of that.

1650
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 5: But I think that what if you really want to

1651
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 5: get to know munk food, you have to know the

1652
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 5: monk people regional because there's more people that live out

1653
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 5: in Fresno, California. There's people that live in Boco Raton,

1654
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 5: There's people that live in Low Rock, Arkansas.

1655
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, So are you do you see manifestations of

1656
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 1: like where where those regions have bled into the culinary tradition? Absolutely,

1657
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: because the thing I want to ask you about is

1658
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,480
Speaker 1: when your folks, like, because your folks grew up in proximity,

1659
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: no doubt, to raising food and sourcing food, all of

1660
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: a sudden you wind up another continent. It mm hm,

1661
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 1: just just the climactic with gardening food that's available right. Uh,

1662
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: you had to they had to have been forced in

1663
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: some way to lean right, to lean into this whole

1664
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: new way of trying to achieve something that made sense

1665
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: to them, absolutely from an ingredient standpoint.

1666
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I love the fact that they did because

1667
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 5: it's about advancing our people, you know. So in April,

1668
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 5: I got a chance to go back to Laos and

1669
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 5: I actually I was with a production crew. We did this,

1670
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 5: you know, we filmed this Little Dock series. And I

1671
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 5: actually went to the village that my mom was born

1672
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 5: in Okay and and I found out that I have

1673
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 5: one hundred years of our our family lineage comes out

1674
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 5: of that village. And I went to the exact same spot.

1675
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: Are there still in that village?

1676
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They came back after the war?

1677
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 5: Ye oh yeah yeah. So so the Mong people couldn't escape.

1678
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 5: They just came back and lived in the mountains and

1679
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 5: they just kept quiet, you know. And so I'm I'm

1680
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 5: here in this village and I'm standing on the the

1681
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 5: village Bond I think I think it's Bond sound right now,

1682
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 5: because it didn't have a name, but it it The

1683
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 5: government named it with the there's like this little river

1684
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 5: that comes by it, and so they named him bon

1685
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 5: Bon and laosh and Lao it means village of you know.

1686
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 5: So Son is the name of the river. And and

1687
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 5: it's in the mountains. And when I say it's in

1688
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 5: the mountains, like you're in a car, you're in a

1689
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 5: four wheel drive car. You're driving through the treacherous mountain

1690
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 5: for about I don't know, you're about three four hours

1691
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 5: to get there. You know, there's nothing up there, you know,

1692
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 5: and there's a there's you know, people that live up there.

1693
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 5: And I remember standing on the plot of land where

1694
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 5: the house that my mom was born in the little kid, yeah, dude,

1695
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 5: And and and to find out that it was one

1696
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 5: hundred years like my great grandmother was a shaman in

1697
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 5: that village too, you know, so like it's like our

1698
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 5: families connected that village time.

1699
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: So your mom had to she had to explain like

1700
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: here there.

1701
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 5: No, my mom wasn't there with me. It was like

1702
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 5: another cousin of theirs that lived in in Pansavan and

1703
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 5: in Laos that kind of took me up there and says, hey,

1704
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 5: we found Yeah, it was. It was kind of like

1705
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 5: one of those things I'm a late processor about you guys,

1706
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 5: but like also it's like okay, cool, like this is cool.

1707
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 5: And then I remember flying back from from you know,

1708
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 5: we flying by it's like thirty hour flight back, and

1709
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 5: I'm like just sitting in my playing seat and I'm

1710
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 5: just start tearing up, and I'm like, yeah, what's going

1711
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 5: hot going, you know, and it starts hitting me like dang,

1712
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 5: like and Mom's never been back there ever, you know,

1713
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 5: in like almost seventy some years. She was born there.

1714
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 5: She was born there, you know, and they had to

1715
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 5: escape right away. They had to leave, you know, because

1716
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 5: it was like like you know, and so I was

1717
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 5: I was standing there and I'm watching all of this,

1718
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 5: and I go.

1719
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: Wow, other people, there's people living there.

1720
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, there is there's people spot Yeah. And and I

1721
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,839
Speaker 5: was watching the way that they make the food and stuff,

1722
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 5: and man, it still carries a little bit of like

1723
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 5: there's these flavored tones and these notes that still carry.

1724
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 5: But if you go to those villages, their technology is

1725
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 5: barely past the bronze age for real. Like you go in,

1726
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 5: it's just all like you know, they it's very very primitive.

1727
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 5: But the way they do things. I loved it, you know,

1728
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 5: because I'm watching them do things and I'm like, bro,

1729
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 5: I'm like bringing that technique back like that. And I

1730
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 5: felt like, you know, I've never been to Loust before, right,

1731
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 5: But I felt like the best way I explained it

1732
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,680
Speaker 5: was it was like going to a home that you've

1733
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 5: never been to, but you still feel at home there.

1734
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 5: So that's how I felt up there. I was like dude,

1735
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 5: and and it was you know, seeing your own people there.

1736
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 5: And it was funny because like I'm a bigger dude,

1737
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 5: so I don't look like most Munk kids, you know,

1738
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,680
Speaker 5: So a lot of times, like I was there, they

1739
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 5: didn't think I was Mung because the crew we were

1740
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 5: with had Lao Tai and you know, you know, like

1741
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 5: white people, and so they were just like they just

1742
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 5: thought I was one of the other helpers. And then

1743
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 5: I started speaking among them and they're like what you know?

1744
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: And I'm was it clear to them?

1745
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 5: You know? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, if you deal

1746
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 5: with this. But like I get, like I I work

1747
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 5: with like a lot of non Mung people. So when

1748
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 5: I do speak Munk, I go when I go home, right,

1749
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 5: you know with mom and dad, and then I'll speak Monk.

1750
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 5: But I don't speak monk, you know, like daily a lot,

1751
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 5: you know, And and I was really nervous. I was like, shoot,

1752
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 5: because like the OG's up there, man, they will wreck

1753
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 5: you if you're mong is like, you know, like if

1754
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 5: your mung is good or if you had the wrong accent.

1755
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 5: They're like, dude, you're a stupid kid, like, don't even

1756
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 5: say that start, but you're.

1757
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Like, you know. Yanni says something similar about, uh, we're

1758
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,879
Speaker 1: at a conversation recently where the Latvians in America police

1759
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: the Latvian. Then you go to Lava, they just want

1760
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: to talk English. Yeah, yeah, because they want to practice English.

1761
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 5: And when I got there, there was something inside of me.

1762
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was like flight or flight

1763
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 5: inside of me. Then I started just speaking Monk and

1764
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 5: I did something to the translation part of the show,

1765
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,560
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm actually doing a

1766
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 5: lot better than I am.

1767
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, can you give us a sense of what

1768
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Monk sounds like?

1769
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:33,799
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's weird.

1770
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean just like, can you just say say some

1771
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: stuff just to give a sense of what the language

1772
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: sounds like for people. I'm guessing most people have not

1773
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: heard monk.

1774
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you want to talk about the white people

1775
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 8: at the table with that's fine.

1776
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 1: Bunch of white people talking about the mom I don't

1777
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: even know how to start it.

1778
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,480
Speaker 5: It's so weird.

1779
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: Uh, I'll say yeah and jikon.

1780
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 5: Studio can it yeah? Which okay, you know she thought

1781
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 5: yea and named that's you guys.

1782
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: How much overlap is there with I'm a little ignorant

1783
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: on the language structure. Is there a Laosian there's like

1784
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 1: there's yeah, is that the native language is called Laotan?

1785
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, lao Okaya. Is there a lot of overlap.

1786
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: There's a few words, a few words, but generally they're

1787
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: like the sting.

1788
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 5: So for example, like the word burrito is not an

1789
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 5: English word, right, it's a Spanish word, but it's part

1790
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 5: of the English language. We say burrito burrito, right, Well

1791
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 5: you play it in scrabble, yeah, yeah. But in long words,

1792
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 5: there there's a few words that I wouldn't say overlap,

1793
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 5: but it's like art. Just because our cultures like are

1794
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 5: right with each other, they use different words, like like

1795
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 5: when I was in laos bathroom and long word is honah,

1796
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 5: that's bathroom, but for the laower is honam.

1797
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 1: You know, So it's like a little bit that would

1798
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 1: be that would be an example of a similarity.

1799
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 5: Yep, you know, uh yeah, the word the word go

1800
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 5: like by right, that's that's like I've learned that that

1801
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 5: was that's thaie yep so thy lao uh you know,

1802
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 5: and even even a little bit of Vietnamese like they

1803
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 5: share like culinary wise, they all kind of share the

1804
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 5: same kind of word, right, even a little bit of Chinese,

1805
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 5: you know, like the steam bund you know, like the

1806
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 5: Chinese seam bun is called bao, but the the Lao

1807
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 5: Thai and mungk version of his callabao, you know, because

1808
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 5: they have the word bow at the end, you know.

1809
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 5: So so like there's all these little like you know,

1810
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 5: I don't want to say that they're crossovers, but there's

1811
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 5: like you you you pull from each other right again,

1812
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 5: Like like my my example is always the word burrito

1813
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 5: when I tell sometimes, I told this guy wants to burrito,

1814
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,640
Speaker 5: isn't no, no, that's like an American word. I'm like, bro,

1815
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 5: burrito is not an American word, okay. And I had

1816
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 5: to explain to him He's like what I always thought

1817
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 5: it was like an American thing, and like stop like stop,

1818
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 5: you know.

1819
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 6: But you know, like kind of like that, could you

1820
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 6: guys understand tie, I.

1821
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 5: Know, I don't speak to no, no, no, we it's

1822
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 5: it's all, and you know, growing up like you grow

1823
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 5: like among is, it's totally its own, totally different language.

1824
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 5: And our our language has eight tones to it, so

1825
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 5: it's our language is completely tonal right. So here's here's

1826
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 5: a funny one I always tell people. So when you

1827
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 5: don't know something, this isn't related to the number of clans, no,

1828
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 5: no tones in your language. So for example, like when

1829
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 5: I say I don't know, like in the word I

1830
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 5: don't know, guccipo, you know, but if you do it

1831
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 5: with the wrong tone guccio, which means I smell like

1832
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 5: fart yeah yeah, well yeah fart yeah. Uh, it's so

1833
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 5: so it's like that. So it's like when when I

1834
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 5: have white friends.

1835
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: What a minefield, man, Dude, Like I learned the language.

1836
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 5: The thing is when you have white friends that are

1837
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 5: teaching me among the phrase, and I'm like, okay, but

1838
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 5: if you say it in the wrong tone, you're gonna

1839
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 5: totally say something horrible, like what what do you mean?

1840
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 5: And then it's always like it sounds the same right,

1841
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 5: And I'm like, no, dude, you just said you smell

1842
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 5: like part like you know. Yeah.

1843
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 2: Steve Steve, the the written form of the Monk language

1844
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,759
Speaker 2: wasn't actually created by a monk person.

1845
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:07,799
Speaker 5: It was created.

1846
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 2: It was founded by a French priest. So he came

1847
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 2: into and I shared this a little bit when I

1848
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: was first here. He came into that that region, worked

1849
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: with the monk, understood language, learned language, and came up

1850
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:24,520
Speaker 2: with the written version.

1851
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 5: Of it in using English letter. Yes, using English.

1852
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: Try to dance around the tone issue.

1853
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: Oh, he figured a way to He found the tone,

1854
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 2: He figured a way to capture the tones, and he

1855
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: created this in the early forties.

1856
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, you just add a lot more words, oh, clarifying, Yeah,

1857
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 8: by which I mean, well.

1858
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 5: Like what what was incredible with what he did when

1859
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 5: he took our language from an oral history to a

1860
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 5: written history is he didn't realize what he did was

1861
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 5: he changed history for our people. So in our culture

1862
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 5: everything's oral, right, So it's like you tell us story

1863
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 5: and the next person tells that story and they have

1864
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 5: to keep it to exactly the tea right, you can't

1865
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 5: divert from it because for us, like for example, like

1866
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 5: my father would always tell us like two like two

1867
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 5: fathers making a deal. It was you just said it,

1868
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 5: you have people witnessed to say it, and then you

1869
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 5: shook your hand and that was it. It wasn't like

1870
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 5: we write a contract and we sign it out. So

1871
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 5: in our culture, your word means everything. Being a man

1872
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 5: of honor, being a person of honor, being a person integrity.

1873
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 5: That means everything. You keep to your word. You say

1874
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 5: I'm going to be here on Tuesday to help you,

1875
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be here on Tuesday to help you. There's

1876
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 5: no contract that needs to be done. That's our culture.

1877
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 5: When the French priest came in and said, hey, I'm

1878
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 5: going to put this into written form, he changed our

1879
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 5: world because before the way that we would tell our

1880
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 5: history is you hand it down from generation to generation.

1881
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 5: One father talks about his father that who told him

1882
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 5: a story from his father. Right our elders right now,

1883
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 5: they are elders that are in the seventies and eighties

1884
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 5: that are passing away there they are our historical archives.

1885
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 5: Inside their minds hold our history. As they are passing away,

1886
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 5: our history is going with them. So there's a project

1887
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 5: that where I'm working on saying how do we record this?

1888
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 5: How do we write these things down? How do we

1889
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 5: film this? How do we record this? Because the idea

1890
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 5: of just writing something down for our people was so

1891
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 5: brand staking new in the fifties.

1892
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: There's like a recapture.

1893
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, but what it does is you were able to

1894
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 5: record history. Like for example, my father when he came

1895
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 5: to this country, he had to make up a birthday

1896
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 5: because he didn't know when he was born, so he

1897
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 5: chose January first, it's his birthday. A lot of the

1898
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 5: most the first day that came to my mind, well

1899
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 5: a lot of if you look at a lot of

1900
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 5: refugees and immigrants from Southeast Asia at the time, January

1901
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 5: first is what they use because it was the most simplest, like, hey,

1902
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 5: this is the day, you know. And then he was

1903
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 5: asked to give a signature.

1904
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: But they're going off the Gregorian calendar and not the

1905
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 1: lunar calendar, or they just knew that it was.

1906
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 5: They just did that because because of the NGO workers

1907
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 5: that were in these refugee camps, it goes, well, January first,

1908
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 5: that's the first of the year, and so that's what

1909
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 5: they did, I mean. And then it was then he

1910
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 5: had to learn how to sign his name and by

1911
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 5: at the point because he didn't have to. But now

1912
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 5: when he signed his name on those documents, like it

1913
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 5: was literally what he said was the NGO worker wrote

1914
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 5: out my dad's name incursive, and then my dad put

1915
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 5: a paper on top and he traced it. So dad

1916
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 5: had to learn how to write in English. The first

1917
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 5: thing he wrote was his name to sign his name

1918
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 5: on those documents for our family to come here. It

1919
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 5: changed the course of history for his family and changed

1920
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 5: the course history for me. So like to me, writing

1921
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 5: is very important and how it preserves our culture, that's

1922
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,560
Speaker 5: very important because anytime we need information we're gonna do

1923
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 5: we go to our phone and we you know what,

1924
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 5: I don't second think like reading. I don't think about

1925
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,719
Speaker 5: much about it. It's like I read. My parents can't

1926
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 5: read English and they can't speak English. And so growing up,

1927
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 5: when we went to doctor's visit a year a year,

1928
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 5: had to be the translator, so I would remember. Really, yeah,

1929
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 5: imagine how awkward it is is you go into the

1930
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 5: doctor's office and you have to translate about your mom's

1931
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 5: health issues somewhere on her body to the doctor, and

1932
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 5: then the doctor had to tell you these other things

1933
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 5: about some infection whatever, and then you had to explained

1934
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 5: that you're at his eight year old. We did that

1935
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 5: growing up. That's what we did and we I just

1936
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 5: thought that was normal, but it's incredible about like the

1937
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 5: reading and writing and how that changed the course of

1938
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 5: history for our people.

1939
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 2: I purposely text my dad and Monk just to keep

1940
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 2: up with, you know, the reading and the writing, because

1941
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: I learned how to read and write it.

1942
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,839
Speaker 5: Is there a monk keyboard on an iPhone? No, it uses.

1943
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 2: Uses, you know, the regular used alpha alphabet, and so

1944
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: if you know the eight tones, also the monk.

1945
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: There's no mong al, there's no.

1946
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 5: No, no, the friend. Yeah, it's it's all English letters.

1947
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 2: It's not phonetic because if I wrote some stuff out

1948
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 2: here and you read it, you it wouldn't it be gibberish? Right,

1949
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 2: So if you didn't know kind of the conventions of

1950
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 2: the language in.

1951
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 1: Order to use it, using the letters as symbols.

1952
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 2: But it's not phenomical, it's not phonetic, but you're using

1953
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 2: the letters as the Roman indicators of what you know.

1954
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 2: Like for example, the last letter in the word. If

1955
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: I wrote out a word, the last letter indicates what

1956
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 2: tone you're supposed to say that word in.

1957
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Okay, let me, let me, let me hate, let me

1958
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: hate you with this, you see, I'm using this this

1959
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: conventional quirity keyboard or whatever. I kep using like these

1960
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 1: letters the English alphabet, and I put down A. Okay,

1961
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: and you see A. What do you see when you

1962
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 1: see A with your Mong brain? That's not that's not

1963
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: among word? Then okay, but I'm saying the letter U.

1964
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 5: I guess I would go with. I would start it

1965
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 5: would start out as kind of phonetic, so I would say,

1966
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 5: you're trying to get ah.

1967
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I thought you meant maybe that they

1968
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: were It doesn't matter what thought. I thought you meant

1969
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: that they use these symbols but assign them totally different meanings.

1970
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 4: No, No, I think it's like if you wrote out dog,

1971
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 4: but then at the end of dog there was an S,

1972
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 4: and then you wrote out dog and then there might

1973
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 4: have been an R. You might say dog one way

1974
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 4: that means one thing with the S, and then you

1975
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 4: might say dog a different way.

1976
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 5: Yah, yeah, and then and then don't forget. Don't forget that.

1977
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 5: The Mung language we also have two dialects too, yes,

1978
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 5: correct tones. Two dialects, well sometimes three, because if you like,

1979
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 5: they have their own dialect too, then the monk Shua

1980
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 5: they have their own dialect too. But yeah, but basic Mung.

1981
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 5: There's two dialects. You have your white and your green,

1982
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 5: you know, or blue, because the Mung word for green

1983
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 5: and blue is the same word ju, which means blue

1984
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 5: and green.

1985
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 4: I got a couple of questions. Okay here putting that

1986
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 4: out there before we get too late.

1987
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: The I'll say what I was gonna ask weave this in.

1988
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask when you went to that village,

1989
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: did they have air guns? And did they hunt and whatnot?

1990
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you want to go there, you throw it into

1991
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 5: the mix real quick.

1992
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 4: One about birthdays, But prior to having a birthday or

1993
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 4: like picking a date, did they celebrate some sort of

1994
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 4: version of our birthday? Like did the monk celebrate that

1995
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 4: before being Americans annual milestone of some sort.

1996
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good that's a good question. Oh, go ahead,

1997
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 2: I would say, even if they did, it probably wasn't

1998
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 2: like how we do it here, No big care.

1999
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's it's.

2000
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: No cake and can.

2001
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 5: Mounts of loose candles aren't like the number one priority

2002
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 5: to buy. It's like, oh, hey, we have thirty cents candles.

2003
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 5: That's where we're going.

2004
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, for the longest time, you know,

2005
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 2: I would say that I don't even know my true

2006
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 2: birth date, right, It was kind of just something that

2007
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 2: was given to me, right and so and so they

2008
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 2: kind of go by, Oh, actually if you yes, our

2009
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 2: parents they'd be like, oh, yeah, you were born in

2010
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 2: this time frame.

2011
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 5: It's like a guess.

2012
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: You don't know your you don't know you're actually.

2013
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 5: The one time or school government. I have one, but

2014
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 5: is that really truly the day? So you just you

2015
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 5: know if you were born in the spring or the fall. Yeah,

2016
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 5: it's it's a guess. It's like, yeah, it's really funny though.

2017
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 5: This is exactly like talking to my mother. Suld be like,

2018
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 5: well you're you're born in yeah, well you know the harvest.

2019
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 5: See what's fishing walleye when you were born or something

2020
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 5: that's awesome.

2021
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 8: I do want to hear about like the proteins, like

2022
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 8: the cooking side. So not a lot of fish. I

2023
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 8: guess specific to your it.

2024
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 5: Depends, like for for our restaurant or like just for

2025
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 5: munk food in general. I guess munk food in general,

2026
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 5: it depends. Uh, you know, I think that a lot

2027
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 5: of our people are mountain people, so it's what you

2028
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 5: get from the mountains, you know, and then you know,

2029
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 5: if there's streams and stuff like that, you get you know,

2030
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 5: little fish, you know, and stuff like that, but it's not,

2031
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 5: you know, we're we're not. We're not like you know,

2032
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 5: we're not in the lowlands by you know, the ocean.

2033
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 5: So it was like like so the idea of shrimp

2034
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 5: and different kinds of octopus and stuff like that, and

2035
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 5: crabs and you know that's really later on, you know,

2036
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 5: because that's kind of like the high life. Like and

2037
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 5: when I say in the mountains, dude, I'm talking about

2038
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,200
Speaker 5: like the reason why in nineteen eighty there's six hundred

2039
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 5: month people that ended up in Missoulu. It's like they

2040
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 5: love the mountains because you just want to be left alone.

2041
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 5: It's like our people has been like we only left alone.

2042
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 5: We want to be farmers, that's all we want to do.

2043
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 5: And so for them to for for for them, it

2044
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 5: was like when if you go to a city, it

2045
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 5: was like back in you know, back in the day

2046
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 5: my mom's times. They were said it would be like

2047
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 5: as five to six hour walk that you would just

2048
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 5: trek down the mountain and then you you know, you

2049
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,679
Speaker 5: sell some vegetables, you get enough money to buy salt,

2050
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 5: and then you just trek back up and you'll use

2051
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 5: that salt, you know, and then it's like when you

2052
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 5: get down there, you're like, whoa. You see these shrimp

2053
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 5: and crab and it's like, wow, just to have one

2054
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 5: would be incredible, you know. And so but again a

2055
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 5: lot of that changes with our people changing, you know,

2056
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 5: as some home people came down from the mountain and

2057
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 5: started living in the lowlands, and then even us being

2058
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 5: here in America, you know, and you know, I mean,

2059
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 5: I love seafood and you know, but normally you don't

2060
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 5: you don't see that it's you know, it's a heavy pork,

2061
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 5: a lot of small games, and a lot of vegetables,

2062
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 5: a lot of broth, you know, a lot of soup,

2063
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 5: a lot of stew. And if you want to go

2064
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 5: old school, I mean it's a lot of the meat

2065
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 5: is actually jerky basically, you know, like they season it

2066
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 5: really and then they hang it and they have a

2067
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,080
Speaker 5: fire inside they hang it, and it is so cool

2068
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 5: to be in these villages and see them still using

2069
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 5: this technique and they hang it from the top and

2070
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 5: they dry it and then you take the meat out

2071
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 5: when you're done. And what the meat really is is

2072
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 5: it's a flavoring to your soups and your stews.

2073
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, conservatively, absolutely, yeah. Did you still see some did

2074
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: you still see some hunting going on when you went back?

2075
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 5: Oh? Absolutely yeah, Yah yeah. We were hunting like these

2076
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 5: like little small squirrels and you know, lizards, you know,

2077
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 5: like monco lizards, and it's just anything that the jungle provides,

2078
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 5: you know. And that's like, that's the thing I love

2079
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 5: about being mung And that's what.

2080
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 1: Was the hunting deliberate, meaning like you were going out

2081
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 1: or was just that you would encounter stuff throughout the

2082
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,759
Speaker 1: day of raising your crops and it traveling around.

2083
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 5: So again, in every culture, it's like the idea where

2084
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 5: it's like hey, boys, you want to go Oka, cool,

2085
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 5: let's go, you know, and so like sometimes it's literally

2086
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 5: like hey, let's go out. A lot of times, dude.

2087
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 5: One of my favorite scenes where we went was they

2088
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 5: weren't home. They were a loud but there were like

2089
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 5: five or six of them. They have scuba gear and

2090
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 5: the little like a little gear set and they jumped

2091
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 5: themway with a little spear guns and they would go

2092
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 5: spear like in the river they go and they would

2093
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 5: go spear little Tilapias and they came out and they

2094
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 5: freaking looked like a bunch of navy seals coming out

2095
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 5: of the water. And these these like little like you know,

2096
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,679
Speaker 5: these Lao kids and they all have little spear guns

2097
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 5: and then just fishing on the other hand, and it

2098
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 5: was the most ba scene ever standing on the river

2099
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 5: and I'm like, man, you would kick the crap out

2100
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 5: of any American, you know. I'm like, if North Korea

2101
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 5: ever attacks, i want you on our team, you know.

2102
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 5: And and so I mean, that's that's what it is.

2103
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 5: It's a lot of times it's the when you're a

2104
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 5: little you know, where you're growing up, especially with the boys.

2105
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 5: It's like you go out with dad, you go out

2106
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,919
Speaker 5: with your uncles. You learn they have little like snares

2107
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 5: and stuff they set up and you know, and then

2108
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 5: you know, you follow Grandpa and you go and grab

2109
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 5: the snare and see, oh look they gotta squirrel today

2110
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 5: or whatever, you know, and yeah, and so it it

2111
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:25,600
Speaker 5: was just part of the repeat. I mean, like we

2112
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 5: went and we even caught bats, you know, so we

2113
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 5: ate bats, and people were, you know, freaked down, They're like, oh,

2114
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,479
Speaker 5: what would you do that. I'm like, you have to understand.

2115
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 5: We don't have a whole foods out here, like we

2116
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 5: have a whole jungle, and you just get what the

2117
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 5: jungle provides for you.

2118
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 1: How they catch targets.

2119
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 5: Uh, so you figure like they figure out a bad cave,

2120
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 5: you know, and and then uh, during the night the

2121
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 5: bats will fly out. Uh, and so like six thirty

2122
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 5: best fight out and they just put up a big

2123
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:53,800
Speaker 5: net and just catch all the bats in there and.

2124
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: Coming back into when they're leaving them, they catch them

2125
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: as they leave.

2126
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 5: Yes, sorry, yeah, leave and then they come back out

2127
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 5: like six in the morning. So it's like you know

2128
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 5: that it's like a million of them and you put

2129
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 5: on that and they kick it all caught and you know,

2130
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 5: and then you uh, you know, you braize them and

2131
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 5: you eat them. Yeah, it was just braise the hair

2132
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 5: right off of them. Well they throw it over the

2133
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 5: fire to kind of charge the hair off, and then

2134
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 5: they don't cut it out, you know, there's no you

2135
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 5: know whatever, and then guts it all right in the

2136
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 5: and then and then you they stick it in the bamboo. Actually,

2137
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,639
Speaker 5: and they so they season it with like garlic, ginger,

2138
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 5: you know, you know, and all that stuff. And then

2139
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 5: they put it in a bamboo and they close the

2140
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 5: bamboo off with put it in there like a container,

2141
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 5: the bamboo, yeah, like yeah, as a container. And then

2142
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 5: they put a little water in there, and then that

2143
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 5: becomes a steaming vessel and they throw that rod over

2144
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 5: the fire. So bamboo is like like cooking inside of

2145
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 5: bamboo is like, by the way, that's going to be

2146
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 5: the thing where we want to try to do to

2147
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 5: just like I mean, it's this old school way of

2148
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 5: cooking when you really got to know how to do it.

2149
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 5: But like my father was telling me about it, where

2150
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 5: it's like basically the bamboo itself is it's a vessel

2151
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 5: and it's bamboo is just water and moisture. So you

2152
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 5: put you know, your meat in there, and then you

2153
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 5: close it the end off with banana leaves, and you

2154
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 5: just tough and you throw it right on the fire

2155
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 5: and just keep turning it and it just brazes inside.

2156
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 1: The problem with that ship is, uh, I brought a

2157
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: bunch of that home. Our buddy Clay, he's got a

2158
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: bunch of bamboo in his yard. I brought a bunch home.

2159
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: But it's cool, but ans soon as it drives out,

2160
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: just cracks the hell yeah, so you're gonna need a

2161
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: steady supply. Yeah, and it's really funny won't be able

2162
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: to have and you won't be able to have one well.

2163
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 5: Down in North Carolina, North Carolina, there's a bunch of

2164
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 5: monkey that lived down there. Uh, they planted bamboos in

2165
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 5: the back of their yard and now it's like invasive there. Yeah,

2166
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 5: and so they're just cutting down. And if you I

2167
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 5: got some cousins down there, you call them, they'll just

2168
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 5: send you a bunch up. Yeah. Yeah. Green Bamboo wrote

2169
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 5: real fresh. Yeah.

2170
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: What was your earliest experience? Uh in uh, how old

2171
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: were you when you came to the US.

2172
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 5: It was like four and a half.

2173
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that they that your people they didn't

2174
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,560
Speaker 1: hunt and fish in the refugee camp just because of

2175
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: the nature of the camp, right, they did too, like

2176
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: really like you could they could go as they please

2177
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 1: within a certain.

2178
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 5: Kind of yeah. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah, I mean

2179
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,600
Speaker 5: it was it's a huge So so you got to

2180
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 5: realize that that refugee camp, held from seventy five to

2181
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 5: ninety two, held ninety thousand people. So it's like it's

2182
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 5: a city. Yeah, and it was big, and there wasn't

2183
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 5: like here's here's the borders, here's the wall. It's just like,

2184
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 5: you know, you can go into the jungle and you

2185
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 5: can hunt and you can do things. There were people

2186
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 5: that were they had gardens and you know they were

2187
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 5: you know, people that were selling stuff in there too.

2188
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, then when he in the US, what was

2189
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: your earliest exposure to hunting here in the US.

2190
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 5: My parents like hunt, my aunts and uncle or you know,

2191
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 5: my uncles and them hunt, and so it was, you

2192
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 5: know when when deer season came around, and you know,

2193
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 5: like we always had a deer, you know, one or two. Yeah.

2194
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 5: And the cool thing about the moon culture and yeah,

2195
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,560
Speaker 5: you can contest to this is like the way that

2196
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 5: it works in our family because I grew up in

2197
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 5: a small town in Wisconsin. It was all cousins, right,

2198
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,760
Speaker 5: uncles and them all living around there. And if one

2199
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 5: of them got a deer, no matter at the time

2200
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 5: of the day, like if it was like nine o'clock,

2201
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 5: we got a deer, they call, and then our whole

2202
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 5: family would just go over there and everybody just breaks

2203
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 5: it down and then we just make a meal out

2204
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 5: of it. Oh yeah, dude, Like I didn't understand. I

2205
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 5: didn't know that you can get the deer process. I

2206
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 5: was just like, wait, what what like you pay someone

2207
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 5: else the process you're deer. I'm like, why don't you

2208
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,560
Speaker 5: guys just do it? And they're like no, why or

2209
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 5: you know, and it's just like it was always like

2210
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 5: and when I when I got into the food world,

2211
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 5: everyone was like, oh, knows the tail cooking man, that's

2212
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 5: the cool thing. Knows the tail cooking. I'm like, do

2213
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 5: we call it a Tuesday?

2214
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: At house?

2215
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 5: That was an everyday thing, you know, so it was normal.

2216
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 5: It was normal growing up. You know. We didn't go

2217
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 5: to the grocery store for pork, like we went to

2218
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 5: an amage farm and then like picking lobster, Dad goes

2219
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 5: that one and then he you know, and then he

2220
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 5: does his thing to it, and then we all kids

2221
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 5: like okay, everyone grab a knife and then we helped

2222
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 5: break it down, you know. And I was like, I didn't.

2223
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 5: I didn't grow up playing, didn't go in basketball camp

2224
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 5: or you know, throwing learning how to throw a baseball.

2225
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 5: This is what I did. And I thought it was normal,

2226
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 5: you know. I thought it was like every kid did this.

2227
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 5: Then I found out. I remember the day I found

2228
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 5: out that way you can just buy pork at the

2229
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 5: grocery store all chopped. Yeah, like what it blew my

2230
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 5: mind in college when I figure that out, that's amazing.

2231
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 5: I love that.

2232
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: At what point did you think that you're gonna get

2233
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: into the food biz like the rest of Yes, So

2234
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: it did it seem like a lot of obstacles.

2235
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 5: No, I was always so I'm a I'm a like

2236
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 5: if I touch it with my hand, I can understand

2237
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,759
Speaker 5: it better. I'm not. My brothers and sisters are super academic.

2238
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,600
Speaker 5: They're really smart. They're incredible. But for me, I was like,

2239
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 5: I'll read a book and I'm like, duh, I don't

2240
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 5: know what happened here, you know. But like if you

2241
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 5: put stuff in front of me and says, hey, like

2242
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 5: break down this chicken, and i'm'll show you where the

2243
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 5: joints are or where they're like, Hey, this is how

2244
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 5: we break down a deer, or this is how we

2245
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 5: break down a rabbit, I could like my dad would

2246
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 5: show me He'll break it up and goes, here are

2247
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 5: the joints you need to cut. Here are the four cuts.

2248
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, cool, you know, and it made

2249
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 5: sense to me. I didn't like my parents didn't want

2250
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 5: me to cook, because they felt that that was a

2251
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 5: very hard job.

2252
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 2: You know.

2253
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 5: My father said to me, he said, we came to

2254
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 5: this country so that you can sit I want you

2255
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 5: to sit in a nice office somewhere and signing people's checks. Doctor, lawyer, doctor,

2256
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 5: that was your choice. Yeah, doctor, lawyer or some kind

2257
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 5: of business person.

2258
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: I heard that we had, uh South Vietnamese dude explain that.

2259
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: He said, you're either a doctor lawyer. You're not my kid.

2260
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I remember as a kid growing three choices. Yeah,

2261
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 5: And as a kid growing up, I I hated that

2262
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh frick, like I'm not smart enough.

2263
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 5: And I remember, uh, this this actually hit me probably

2264
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 5: about like three or four years ago, and I realized

2265
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 5: what my father is saying, because he would always be like,

2266
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 5: I don't want your hands and your knees to hurt

2267
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 5: like mine. Because my dad was a carpenter, he was

2268
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 5: a he was a welder, he was a he built homes,

2269
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 5: you know, and he goes, I don't want this for you.

2270
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 5: He goes, I take the pain so you would never

2271
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 5: have to. And as a kid you didn't understand that.

2272
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 5: You're like whatever, dad, As an adult like it, like

2273
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,599
Speaker 5: he always said. My dad always say, I mean, don't

2274
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 5: be like me. I'm dumb. Yeah, I want you to

2275
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 5: be smarter than me. I want you to be better

2276
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,640
Speaker 5: than me. And I get super emotional about this, but

2277
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 5: like I remember I was cooking at this grill out

2278
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 5: and it was huge. It was long day, and my

2279
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 5: hands were all sooted up from the you know, from

2280
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 5: cutting all day and from working the fire, and my

2281
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 5: hands are just like tired, and my knees are tired.

2282
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 5: In that moment, I was like, I feel the closest

2283
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 5: to my father, where I'm like I am you and

2284
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 5: I want to be you, you know, like like he's

2285
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 5: a great man, he's like a hero, and I'm just

2286
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,639
Speaker 5: and I get what he was saying, Like I get

2287
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 5: what he was saying. I don't want you to be

2288
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 5: like me because I'm dumb, but I'm like, no, man

2289
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 5: like everything that's good about you, integrity, honor, how to

2290
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 5: be a man like I learned that from you. How

2291
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 5: to but your meat. I learned that from you. I

2292
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 5: want to be like you. And that's why I love

2293
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 5: being a cook because and you're like, how can those

2294
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 5: things be bad?

2295
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: Damn?

2296
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2297
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Right?

2298
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:55,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, But all he wants is like as any refugee

2299
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 5: and immigrants, like, I want what's better. Like you guys

2300
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 5: are fathers, you get it. You want to set up

2301
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 5: a life that's better for your children that you had.

2302
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 5: You want you don't want them to go through pain

2303
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 5: and struggle. And I get it. And when I was young,

2304
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 5: I was dumb. I didn't get that. I was just

2305
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 5: like what dad doesn't care? Now it's like, yeah, like

2306
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 5: I love working the field with him, I love bringing

2307
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 5: down animals with him, you know.

2308
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 1: You know, I think the a thing that he's probably

2309
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 1: thinking about too, is that like if he knew that

2310
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: you could do, if he knew that you could work

2311
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 1: with your hands and and like be around heat and

2312
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: struggle but then find some level of security, it would

2313
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: have been different. But he's probably associating him. He's associating

2314
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: labor and struggle with struggle, yeah, and not labor and

2315
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,799
Speaker 1: struggle with with some sort of success and security.

2316
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2317
01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Because what I'm saying, because you could probably do I

2318
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 1: bet you now. Oh like now he probably looks at

2319
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 1: you and he's probably proud of shit.

2320
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it was. It was one of these

2321
01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 5: things where we did this event and the lieutenant governor

2322
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 5: came by and gave me this little award and whatever,

2323
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 5: and it was like, you know whatever. And I remember

2324
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 5: my dad didn't say this, but he said to my mom,

2325
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 5: he said, he said something along the lines of like,

2326
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 5: I live in a world now where my son can

2327
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 5: speak and leaders will listen to him, and like in

2328
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 5: our culture, that's huge, and I and and it's not

2329
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 5: like I don't ever believe that my dad was never

2330
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 5: proud of me, But in that moment he said, I

2331
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 5: think he even said to me, he goes, I'm sorry,

2332
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 5: I just didn't know what you do.

2333
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you took an unexpected pathway, like you took a

2334
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: really unexpected pathway to get to somewhere that made sense

2335
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 1: to him, because what made sense to him was just

2336
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 1: that you that you knew how you were gonna eat,

2337
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:43,759
Speaker 1: You knew how you were gonna take care of yourself,

2338
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: you knew how you were not going to struggle and

2339
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 1: not be under someone's thumb, right.

2340
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so it's like it's very different now. But man,

2341
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 5: like I said, you know, and even with Korean and

2342
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 5: we were talking our pre production, we were talking about this,

2343
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,840
Speaker 5: and I was just like, dude, my life was pretty

2344
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 5: so like it. It is what I do is I

2345
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 5: get to speak on their legacy. So about five years ago,

2346
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 5: my dad had a horrible accident from work, or five

2347
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 5: or six years ago, and he was in the ICU

2348
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 5: and he fell. He shattered his skull and not doctors

2349
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 5: like we don't know what's gonna happen. And I remember

2350
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 5: I just started his whole food stuff and you know,

2351
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 5: we were getting some you know, some push and people

2352
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 5: were like really excited. And at that point it was like, hey, man,

2353
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,040
Speaker 5: like there is this new kid. He's making monk food

2354
01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah whatever. And I remember visiting him

2355
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 5: in the ICU. It's my dad's my hero man like

2356
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 5: he's he's a freaking warrior, right, he fought a war

2357
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 5: like he like, I thought to myself. I remember holding

2358
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 5: his hand at the in the intensive carry unit, and

2359
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 5: I just thought to myself, this is not how warriors die.

2360
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 5: This is not how heroes die. They either die on

2361
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 5: the battlefield in a great fight where they die as

2362
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 5: an old man around like all their grandkids and all

2363
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 5: the people around them. Like, they don't die by slipping

2364
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 5: on a stupid ladder at work, you know, And and

2365
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 5: and and fracturing their skull on a job that they

2366
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 5: didn't ever need to be in, right, And I was

2367
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 5: so pissed at myself, and I'm like, what the frick, dude.

2368
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:01,559
Speaker 5: And I remember driving back, it was like three hour driving.

2369
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 5: They were in Marshall, Wisconsin at that time, and I

2370
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 5: was driving back to Minneapolis, and I just thought to myself,

2371
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 5: my life's got a change, man, Like I can't. It

2372
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:10,560
Speaker 5: can't be about Oh, we're gonna make this stuff to

2373
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 5: be about mung food. No, man, It's gonna be about

2374
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 5: their legacy. And because we have to. Why do we

2375
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 5: always wait for people to pass away to talk about them,

2376
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 5: to talk about how great they were? You know, like

2377
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 5: why not? Now? Why not when they can see it?

2378
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 5: And so, man, life is pretty simple for me. And

2379
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 5: we get to travel the country. We get to make

2380
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 5: food for thousands of people through our restaurant, through events

2381
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 5: we do around the country, where at the end, like

2382
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 5: we talk about mung food. But at the end, I

2383
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 5: can take that story back and I'm like, I want

2384
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 5: you to tell you. I want to tell you guys

2385
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 5: about this legacy that means so much to me and

2386
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 5: and for me, one of the things that I really

2387
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 5: love doing. That's why I think that it really shows

2388
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 5: in hunting, right, And I think in hunting it's about legacy, right.

2389
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 5: It's about like, hey, if there's this piece of land

2390
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 5: that belonged to my great great grandfather that was passed down,

2391
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 5: passed down, we can hunt in it, we can enjoy it,

2392
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 5: our kids kids can enjoy it. And it was one

2393
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 5: of those things where it becomes this initiative of mine.

2394
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 5: You know, my parents have always worked these gardens, and

2395
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 5: there was all the properties always rental, and so it's like, yep,

2396
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 5: one of my goals, I'm gonna buy them a guarden.

2397
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna buy them a piece of land that's like

2398
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 5: in their name, the LLC is in their name. Yeah,

2399
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 5: so that before they passed away, before the Lord takes

2400
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 5: them away, like they have a piece of paper that

2401
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 5: says this is yours, you know. And so that's kind

2402
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 5: of another initiative where I'm really passionate about, you know,

2403
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 5: because it's cool. Yeah, that's all they want to do.

2404
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 5: And so yeah, so we again, I get to do

2405
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 5: all that. And that's why I get excited about especially

2406
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 5: when we talk about mung food.

2407
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 1: When to get into the food businesses, you have to

2408
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 1: go cook someone else's food before you could do mung food.

2409
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 1: Is just get right into mung food.

2410
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I did not want to cook mung food because

2411
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 5: I was super embarrassed about it. Because I was super embarrassed.

2412
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

2413
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like, oh, you know, what food

2414
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 1: did you think you had to make to be legitimate.

2415
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 5: I didn't think I either make a certain food. I

2416
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 5: just had to be good at cooking. Yeah, you know,

2417
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, like cooking is it's basic, right,

2418
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, it's like breaking down an animal.

2419
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,640
Speaker 5: If it's a four legged creature, it's they're all basically

2420
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 5: the same kind of you know, they're breaking down those parts.

2421
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 5: So my whole thing was I was decent, Like I

2422
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 5: was never I don't think I was ever a good cook.

2423
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 5: I was just fast enough to keep up with the

2424
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 5: tickets that came in. And I was the only one

2425
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 5: I remember started cooking. I was the only one that

2426
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 5: lived like kind of like a straight life, you know.

2427
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 5: So like so my chefs are always like, dude, I

2428
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 5: just know that tomorrow you're at seven or at you know,

2429
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 5: on Saturday, at ten am, you're gonna come in and

2430
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 5: you're not gonna be like in jail or hungover or whatever.

2431
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 5: So so they that they're just like And that's what

2432
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 5: I tell any young kid who wants to get into

2433
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 5: food or any kind of work. I'm like, just show up,

2434
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 5: bro if you show up like these kids I got today, See,

2435
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 5: I don't tell you. I just say show up, just

2436
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 5: show up. And you know, my old mentor of mine,

2437
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 5: Mark Brockberg, from college, would always say he used the

2438
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 5: acronym fat, fat, faithful, available, teachable, show up and be faithful,

2439
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 5: available and teachable, you know. And that's just what I did.

2440
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 5: And I was it was like a strategy. It was

2441
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 5: just like all I know how to do, you know?

2442
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 5: And and eventually I just learned and learned and and

2443
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 5: so what my goal is whatever kitchen you want to

2444
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 5: put me in, Like i might not be the best,

2445
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna show up, I'm gonna work hard. I'm

2446
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 5: gonna outwork everyone here, and even if it means like

2447
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 5: I'm the last one out, I'll be the last one out.

2448
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 5: And that was and again, that was something my father

2449
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 5: instilled me, and I just I didn't realize at a

2450
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 5: young age. And now it's just like you know, you

2451
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 5: get all these young chefs who comes in and they're like, oh,

2452
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 5: look at my founder ie. I like, oh yeah, I

2453
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 5: want to start my own YouTube channel. And you're just

2454
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 5: like okay, dude, like go peel like eight thousand pounds

2455
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 5: of potatoes then we'll talk. You know.

2456
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 1: It's just like that was that There's that quote that's

2457
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 1: attributed to one of the guys from Lynyrd Skinner, which

2458
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,240
Speaker 1: was learn how to play your guitar and then get sexy.

2459
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and restaurant, I just go learn how to

2460
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 5: use a knife. And I don't know if you'll ever

2461
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 5: be sexy, but you know.

2462
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 1: So what was the first chance to do? Like how

2463
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: did it happen that all sudd you got to start

2464
01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 1: doing your uh you know your you're Yeah.

2465
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 5: So I was working through all these different restaurants Minieppois.

2466
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 5: They're incredible restaurants, The chefs were amazing.

2467
01:57:07,200 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: High end places.

2468
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yep, yep, yep. You know, and and and

2469
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 5: I would I had this ability to learn from some

2470
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 5: really really great teams, and then I was like, okay,

2471
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 5: well let's start out with this little pop up. So

2472
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:20,960
Speaker 5: we started like a little pop up and people are

2473
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 5: like what's the pop up? And you're like, I don't know.

2474
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 5: Just come in on Friday and you were open for

2475
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 5: five hours and just eat. So we did that and

2476
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 5: then we're like, I don't know, and who was showing up?

2477
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 5: Mong people? Yeah, so long people. Here here's the thing.

2478
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 1: There's a you know how, there's like they don't mind

2479
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: throwing down some box on food.

2480
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 5: Well, here's the deal. Here's the deal. You know how,

2481
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 5: there's black Twitter. There's munk Facebook. Okay, I didn't know.

2482
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 5: I don't know about Okay, Well yeah there's black Twitter

2483
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 5: and there's munk Facebook. And let me tell you the

2484
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 5: thing with our community, it's a big community, but it's

2485
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 5: a small community. Yeah. Know's what I'm talking about. If

2486
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 5: some if one of the if one of your sons

2487
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 5: went and wronged like some other girl from another clan,

2488
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 5: like trust me, his picture will be up. Everybody's gonna know.

2489
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 5: You know, they're like, oh we know what clan he's

2490
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 5: come from. Oh we know what village he lives in,

2491
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 5: or what town he's from. Oh yeah, we know his

2492
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 5: cousins like you will be ratted out so fast in there.

2493
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 5: So there's munk Facebook. Now as much as.

2494
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Apparently it works for you and against you.

2495
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely. So somehow on Munk Facebook said hey, there's this

2496
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 5: new kid that's doing like mungk food in East Ie,

2497
01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 5: Saint Paul in this little place called cook Saint Paul.

2498
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 5: My buddy owned this place. It was as a diner,

2499
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 5: so it was opened in the you know, breakfast and lunch,

2500
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 5: and it was evening was closed and then.

2501
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Friday he took over the evenings.

2502
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, once a month, that was it. And I still

2503
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 5: and then at that time, I was still from Mon Monday,

2504
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:41,920
Speaker 5: you know, from Sunday to Thursday, I was working at

2505
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 5: Coastal Seafoods. I was a fishmonger, you know, because like

2506
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 5: I did the birchery stuff and I'm like I want

2507
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 5: to learn more about fish. So like I would do fish.

2508
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 5: I smell like fish all day. And then Friday Saturday,

2509
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 5: once once a month, we would do these little pop ups.

2510
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 5: And I never wanted to be the kid who said,

2511
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 5: oh yeah, I want to go to our own business

2512
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 5: like people like, you know right now you have all

2513
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:01,400
Speaker 5: these like how to be an entrepreneur, Like that's not

2514
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 5: man Like this is so dumb, you know. And then

2515
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 5: eventually we were very blessed to have a few media

2516
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 5: people pick up on it and said, hey, let's talk

2517
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 5: about this, you know, and and and then yeah, that

2518
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 5: was like seven years ago.

2519
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: But when you first did the pop up you had,

2520
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: it was Mung coming. Yes, we had at some point,

2521
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:23,000
Speaker 1: but it's so just organically caught out with people who

2522
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 1: just wanted to try new things.

2523
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 5: Well, in the Twin Cities, Mung are really well known,

2524
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 5: you know, so we have a few big shops in there,

2525
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 5: so people they are likely to know. Oh yeah, I mean,

2526
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 5: you know, seventy five thousand in the metro we are

2527
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 5: the you know, largest uh bipod group you know in

2528
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 5: the Twin City. So like there, I mean it's Mung

2529
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 5: and Somalians, you know, and so it's it's huge. Uh

2530
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,360
Speaker 5: So what happened was, you know, we had some Mong

2531
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 5: people came. But then like and this was a while back,

2532
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 5: and this was the beginning. How do I see this?

2533
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 5: I have this like love hate with quote unquote food influencers,

2534
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, and and so this this was the

2535
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:05,360
Speaker 5: beginning of like Instagram food influencing or like quote unquote foodie.

2536
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 5: When people say foodie, I'm just like everyone's a foodie.

2537
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 5: You eat food right there, your foodie just chill.

2538
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 10: Right.

2539
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 1: It's a concept that's kind of dying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2540
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 1: but you know, real excited about it for a while though,

2541
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: absolutely right.

2542
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 5: And so we had a few who were just really

2543
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 5: gracious and they were like, hey, we really love what

2544
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 5: you're doing. So we're just like so they just kept

2545
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 5: following us around, they just kept putting social media is like, hey,

2546
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 5: like Union Munk Kitchen's here, Union Mounkitchen. I was so

2547
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 5: embarrassed of being mung in the beginning too, bro, Like,

2548
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:34,600
Speaker 5: I'll be honest here with you guys. Is it was

2549
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:36,320
Speaker 5: called Union Kitchen. I didn't want to put the word

2550
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 5: mung in there because I didn't want white people to

2551
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 5: be deterred, right. And I had a buddy who was

2552
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 5: a PR guy who works for a big PR firm,

2553
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 5: and he goes, dude, don't be a chicken man. He's

2554
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 5: a white dude, r white Jewish dude. He goes, put

2555
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 5: the word mung on it. I'm like, really, like, is

2556
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 5: do you think he's like do it? And so for

2557
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 5: the first like year, was just Union Kitchen, Union kitchen,

2558
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 5: you know, And and and I we changed it to

2559
02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 5: Union Munk Kitchen and people were like, yeah, like this

2560
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 5: is amazing, you know, and so like I I still

2561
02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 5: went on my own little journey of like I don't

2562
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 5: know if people are gonna like this. And again we

2563
02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 5: were very blessed. And then after a while there was

2564
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 5: like different you know, stuff came in and you know,

2565
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 5: we were just like hopping. We eventually got this little

2566
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:16,120
Speaker 5: food trailer at a brewery that we did food out of.

2567
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 5: But what really helped us was no joke the catering world,

2568
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 5: like catering weddings we killed. We catered by mitzvahs and

2569
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 5: bar mitzvahs. That was so awesome, Like this is what

2570
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 5: I talk about. We always say about food is a

2571
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:33,600
Speaker 5: universal language we can use to speak to each other. Right,

2572
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 5: it's amazing. I mean I think it's what I love

2573
02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 5: what you guys do where it's like we're not just

2574
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:39,680
Speaker 5: only hunting animal, but but we we cook it together.

2575
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 5: And it's just just like, oh, I might not be

2576
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 5: like into the hunting scene, but the cooking things, like dude,

2577
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 5: that's really cool. Like food has this ability to bring

2578
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 5: everybody together. And so we got a call in this

2579
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,640
Speaker 5: uh this person was like you know, the Saint Paul

2580
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 5: Mayer like the I think they were like they knew

2581
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:56,120
Speaker 5: the mayor of Saint Paul or something. Then they're like, hey,

2582
02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 5: my I have a bum mitzvah coming up. And we

2583
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 5: were like we can't do pork obviously, but we'll do

2584
02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:04,160
Speaker 5: everything else. So we're like okay, and so we catered

2585
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 5: like abuvements and then then through the like the Jewish community,

2586
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 5: they heard about it, and then another Jewish family's like, yeah,

2587
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:13,160
Speaker 5: can we do a barmitzvah for us? I'm like sure,

2588
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 5: you know, and we were in a synagogue.

2589
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:18,720
Speaker 1: We were like a nationless nationless people bring them up.

2590
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I'm like, we are kind of weird cousins.

2591
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 5: Let's do this. You know, you lost bought you guys.

2592
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 5: Don't do pork, we do beef. What's yeah. Yeah. We

2593
02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 5: even had the inquiries for kinsias too, and like, I

2594
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 5: kid you not. And that's kind of where we were.

2595
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 5: And it was we went from like like women's prayer group,

2596
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 5: brunches from Lutheran churches, I kid you not, gentlemen making

2597
02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 5: Kish and French toast. I'm like, okay, I'm down. You know,

2598
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 5: this was like a wild back where it's like four

2599
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 5: hundred bucks. Yes, that's gold. Let's do it.

2600
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 10: You know.

2601
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:52,560
Speaker 5: We went from that bum mitswell barments for us, and

2602
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:55,880
Speaker 5: then we had big events and then Melvin Carter, who

2603
02:02:55,960 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 5: is the first African American mayor in UH Saint Paul

2604
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 5: when he won and he had his big bash party,

2605
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 5: they called us and say, hey, we love you, come

2606
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 5: and do the food. And so we like the catering

2607
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 5: and the private catering scene where you know where y'all

2608
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 5: I was talking about, like that's kind of where we started,

2609
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 5: you know, and that's kind of it wasn't because people

2610
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 5: always asking me like who's your marketing person? Like where

2611
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 5: did you guys go to do? I'm like, bro, Like

2612
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:23,120
Speaker 5: I went from door to door catering events. I would

2613
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 5: go all the time, and I felt like a what's

2614
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 5: you know? My joke was, I felt like a like

2615
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,200
Speaker 5: a lady of the night, you know, like you would

2616
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 5: go in and do something special for the client and

2617
02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 5: they tell their friends and then I get a call

2618
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,680
Speaker 5: next time, goes, hey, the Johnson's call, So you did

2619
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:41,280
Speaker 5: that special thing for them? Like can you do that?

2620
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, what's the budget? And they'll give me

2621
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 5: the budget. I'm like, well, the Johnson's gave me a

2622
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 5: little more like I will take care of you. And

2623
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 5: then you go in and you carry like a few suitcases.

2624
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:50,880
Speaker 5: You come and where do I set up? And you know,

2625
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 5: you do your thing, and then you leave and you

2626
02:03:53,320 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 5: pay it and you shower and you feel better the

2627
02:03:54,880 --> 02:03:57,160
Speaker 5: next day. It kind of you, you know. That's how

2628
02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 5: we started. And I even went I did like a

2629
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 5: bachelortte parties too, Like that was one of the weirdest

2630
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 5: one where I did like a private dining cooking scene

2631
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 5: for for but I did know what it was a

2632
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,840
Speaker 5: bachelrett party. I walked in like literally I had like

2633
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 5: a few boxes of like the food and stuff. I

2634
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:13,360
Speaker 5: walked in and it's just all women. I'm like, what's

2635
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 5: going on. They're like, oh, yeah, I didn't tell you.

2636
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 5: This is my sister's batchelete party and we wanted you

2637
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 5: to do like a private dinner. And I'm like, oh

2638
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 5: my gosh, Like you guys know, I'm like a cook

2639
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 5: right in the cloth, yeah, the aprons covering everything. Okay,

2640
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 5: I could do the shirt off, but that's gonna be

2641
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 5: a little extra, you know. So that's how we hustled,

2642
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 5: and then we were very blessed. The restaurant grew. Uh

2643
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:37,120
Speaker 5: you know, we we we brought in more people. We

2644
02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:40,200
Speaker 5: have incredible operators, we have you know, our you know,

2645
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 5: we had, we grew an executive team. And then when

2646
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:44,920
Speaker 5: it came time to saying, hey, how do we grow?

2647
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 5: I think one of the next growth path was how

2648
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 5: do we expand and build our own restaurant, you know,

2649
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 5: going our own brick and mortar restaurant that is, and

2650
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 5: you know, we have two little guys, but get our

2651
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:56,800
Speaker 5: big guy. We you know, I had to go do

2652
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 5: the song song and pony dance and go to banks

2653
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 5: and find investors. And then that's when it's a gut

2654
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:05,920
Speaker 5: check at you know, of like do you really believe

2655
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,320
Speaker 5: in what you're doing? Since when you stand in front,

2656
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:09,839
Speaker 5: like when you go sit with some of these investors

2657
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 5: or potential investors who like write like one hundred fifty

2658
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:13,880
Speaker 5: thousand dollars checks, like you know, they're giving them out

2659
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:16,760
Speaker 5: five bucks for you know, Starbucks or something. You gotta

2660
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 5: like they look at you're like woomy, and you end's

2661
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 5: a gut check of like do you believe in this?

2662
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:22,440
Speaker 1: Do you like?

2663
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 5: It's like yeah, you know, and I said I said

2664
02:05:24,680 --> 02:05:26,120
Speaker 5: to uh, I get to talk to a lot among

2665
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 5: high school kids, and I said, in life, you're gonna

2666
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:31,840
Speaker 5: go around in life and there's gonna be these people

2667
02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:33,160
Speaker 5: in your life and they're gonna believe in you. They're

2668
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:34,880
Speaker 5: gonna tell you incredible things about yourself. And I'm like,

2669
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 5: think of that as equity, and you put in a

2670
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:40,280
Speaker 5: little piggy bank in your heart and one day there's

2671
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:41,840
Speaker 5: gonna come a moment in your life you gotta break

2672
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 5: that piggy bank and take all that equity and you

2673
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 5: gotta go betting on yourself. Yeah, And that I mean

2674
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 5: that was was like the herd. Like the hardest thing

2675
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 5: was to go and say, oh, this building project is

2676
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 5: a million dollar project and so okay, okay, we gotta go.

2677
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 5: We gotta talk. And when you get in these rooms

2678
02:05:55,440 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 5: or these guys who are making million dollar deals for

2679
02:05:57,840 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 5: them or like nothing.

2680
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 1: You'll find out if you're weak or not.

2681
02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 5: Yes, And that's when you go, do I believe? And

2682
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,160
Speaker 5: that's you know what I draw from. I don't draw

2683
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 5: from yea as confident. I draw from Mom and Dad,

2684
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 5: Like I remember, I think about them, I think about

2685
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 5: all the hard work they put in, Like I think

2686
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 5: about the war. My dad fought. I think about my

2687
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 5: mom being in that war prison camp for a year

2688
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 5: and where she told me that she would pray every

2689
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:25,720
Speaker 5: morning that God would allow her to die because it

2690
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 5: was so horrible in that camp that they had to

2691
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 5: live in. And she said that one day, she said

2692
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:34,760
Speaker 5: that one day I was praying in the morning, she

2693
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 5: said she was this younger. I was praying and I said, God,

2694
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:39,200
Speaker 5: will you let me die today because I can't take

2695
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,400
Speaker 5: life here anymore. And she said there was a voice

2696
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 5: inside my heart that says, I can't let you die

2697
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 5: because your children is going to change the world. I

2698
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 5: need you to hold on a little longer because your

2699
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 5: children that you've never met, they're going to change word.

2700
02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:53,839
Speaker 5: In the day that I was announced as a folence

2701
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 5: for the James Beard, she called me and told me

2702
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 5: that story. Oh man, I'm crying, you know, on.

2703
02:07:00,120 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 1: A frying panel.

2704
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, gift from God. She kind of just said today,

2705
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 5: when I heard that you were nominated is one of

2706
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,120
Speaker 5: the best chefs in the country, I knew why, like

2707
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 5: I needed to keep moving on. So I think about

2708
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:19,120
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what your brother does. Yeah,

2709
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:21,680
Speaker 5: you could contest this man. You can be the most

2710
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 5: successful whatever in your family. But when you're around your

2711
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 5: uncle's man, they remind you you're ten years old. When

2712
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:29,720
Speaker 5: I freaking when we have like big parties and grills

2713
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 5: and I'm standing by my uncles and they're grilling, They're like,

2714
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 5: let me tell you, kid, how you would do this,

2715
02:07:33,560 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 5: and I'm like, you know what I end up doing.

2716
02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 5: I end up being coming to the dude who holds

2717
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 5: the plate for all them to put the me on.

2718
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,040
Speaker 5: And they're all like, let me tell you if you

2719
02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,120
Speaker 5: want more people in your restaurant, this is what you do.

2720
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm I just want to be like, uncle,

2721
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 5: you're here's the deal man you work at like Anderson Windows. Okay,

2722
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 5: I know where you work at. The plant You've don't

2723
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:56,280
Speaker 5: really cooked, but apparently the country has said, I'm pretty

2724
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 5: decent in what I do. But sure, I'm pretty sure

2725
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 5: you have a secret, you know, so you know?

2726
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 2: So, yeah, we can't really overcome the age and the wisdom.

2727
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 1: High prior.

2728
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 5: They make sure they remind you who you are. You

2729
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 5: get reminded, yeah, oh remember when you were five, And

2730
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, you guys are gonna do that to your nephews. No,

2731
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 5: I will not do you know what well I I

2732
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 5: do because.

2733
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,520
Speaker 1: Maybe don't make the mistake of I see people this

2734
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 1: is not this is not like cultural, that's just human human.

2735
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 1: I see people all the time throw out because because

2736
02:08:32,040 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 1: of not liking something about their parents or how they

2737
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 1: were brought up. They throw the whole thing out.

2738
02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 5: I completely understand.

2739
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 1: Instead of just doing a slight tweak.

2740
02:08:41,120 --> 02:08:43,320
Speaker 5: Yep, No, I do the same thing. Like my niece

2741
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 5: and nephew. They work out the stay Fair. We have

2742
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 5: a stall to stay Fair in this year. They work

2743
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:49,040
Speaker 5: there and they're from Wisconsin. So they come up and

2744
02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 5: they stay up with grandma and grandpa for a week

2745
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:52,160
Speaker 5: and they worked there for two weeks and they work there.

2746
02:08:52,440 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 5: And I remember I was like harsher on them than

2747
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:57,240
Speaker 5: the other kids, you know, because I was like, dude,

2748
02:08:57,400 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 5: you guys need a double time, like let's go. And

2749
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:01,320
Speaker 5: I realized I'm like, oh, dude, I sound like my father,

2750
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:03,400
Speaker 5: like like when we're working, you know, he's just like, hey,

2751
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:05,200
Speaker 5: like I need you to, you know, keep working at it.

2752
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:10,400
Speaker 5: And I believe in allowing kids to struggle a little bit,

2753
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 5: you know when they're working, you know, because I really

2754
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 5: want to be like, where's the creativity to you know,

2755
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 5: figure things out. And I think we worked out with

2756
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:17,760
Speaker 5: our chefs too, you know, like allow them a little

2757
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 5: a little line to struggle.

2758
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:23,640
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I'm way more like, I'm way more

2759
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 1: financially comfortable than I ever thought I would be. And

2760
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: I worry constantly about my kids being too soft all

2761
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:31,040
Speaker 1: the time.

2762
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 2: Man.

2763
02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 1: You know it's like, yeah, you wound up over not

2764
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 1: overdoing it, but you just worry about them being like

2765
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:38,480
Speaker 1: do you have the ger?

2766
02:09:38,760 --> 02:09:38,920
Speaker 5: You know?

2767
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 1: Am I like depriving you of the ger?

2768
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2769
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 4: It's a weird thing that it's like this first world

2770
02:09:44,120 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 4: problem that you had to think about because when you're

2771
02:09:47,720 --> 02:09:51,240
Speaker 4: you know, your dad, he didn't think any other way

2772
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:53,480
Speaker 4: other than like, I don't want my kid to struggle

2773
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:55,200
Speaker 4: the way I did. I need to find him a

2774
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:58,400
Speaker 4: better place. We grew up in a place where life

2775
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:01,840
Speaker 4: was pretty darn easy in our circumstances, I believe, you know,

2776
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 4: speaking from you know, most of.

2777
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:07,040
Speaker 1: Us relative from a global perspective exactly.

2778
02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:10,120
Speaker 4: So you have to then think about how are you

2779
02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 4: going to instill that to your kid because they're not

2780
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:15,879
Speaker 4: seeing a struggle like the way you saw your dad struggle.

2781
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 5: You know. Yeah, but I also think too that one

2782
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 5: of the things that I love, like one of the

2783
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 5: things I get to do I love to do is

2784
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 5: there's a lot of high schools up in the Twin

2785
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:27,840
Speaker 5: Cities area that are, like, you know, they have a

2786
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 5: higher population of monk kids. And so I get asked

2787
02:10:30,440 --> 02:10:32,680
Speaker 5: to come in as a speaker, and I and I

2788
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:36,600
Speaker 5: the thing that I love doing is like I love

2789
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:38,880
Speaker 5: looking them in the eyes. Where it's like a big auditorums,

2790
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 5: like three hundred kids and you see the group of

2791
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:42,160
Speaker 5: like fifty monk kids, and I look them in the

2792
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:44,920
Speaker 5: eyes and I said, hey, guys, like I'm like to

2793
02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:47,560
Speaker 5: all my like white brothers and sisters and friends out there,

2794
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,240
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna put you guys on pause. So I'm

2795
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 5: just talking directly to among brothers and sisters, and I say,

2796
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:57,200
Speaker 5: here's the deal. Your your grandfather and your father's they

2797
02:10:57,280 --> 02:10:59,920
Speaker 5: fought a war, and they they they fought a war

2798
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:02,320
Speaker 5: that wasn't their war, but they fought it with honor.

2799
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 5: And then when a promise was made that they would

2800
02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 5: have free passage to America for fighting for America, it

2801
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 5: was denying for them. They still got to America and

2802
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 5: they worked here and they worked for years and years

2803
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:14,960
Speaker 5: and years to get you where you are. And so

2804
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 5: anytime you feel like you can't do something, or anytime

2805
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 5: you feel like, oh, I don't think I'm like strong enough,

2806
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 5: you remember that the blood that pumps through their vein

2807
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:25,120
Speaker 5: is the same blood that pumps through your heart, you know,

2808
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:27,120
Speaker 5: And to remember, I mean, I think that that's one

2809
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 5: of the biggest thing is like remember where you come from.

2810
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:34,360
Speaker 5: And for me, that was a big big part of Look, man,

2811
02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:38,000
Speaker 5: the restaurant industry isn't easy. It sucks, you know. And

2812
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:40,640
Speaker 5: I was explaining to one of our one of our

2813
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 5: workers or you know, one of the kids that work

2814
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 5: with us, about how for the restaurant the profit margin

2815
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:49,080
Speaker 5: is like eight percent and if you're a really good year,

2816
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:50,960
Speaker 5: you get ten, you know, and that's like a really

2817
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:52,520
Speaker 5: good year. And she was like, what what do you

2818
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 5: mean by that. I'm like, so, imagine if you did

2819
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 5: something and you got one hundred dollars and all I

2820
02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 5: said is you can only keep eight dollars. And she's

2821
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 5: like that sucks. I'm like, yeah, that's the restaurant. And

2822
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 5: it hit her. She was like a younger college kid

2823
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 5: and she's like, oh my gosh, really I'm like, yeah,

2824
02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:06,800
Speaker 5: you know, and.

2825
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:09,360
Speaker 8: So so You're like, so, now let's circle back to

2826
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:11,720
Speaker 8: the fact that you threw that shanks and trash.

2827
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2828
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 5: It's like it's like or I get people there like, oh,

2829
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:18,160
Speaker 5: it's it's so amazing what you do. I get young

2830
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 5: monk kids that come up bless their heart, like I

2831
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 5: want to be a chef, and I'm like, and I

2832
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 5: do the Billy Madison scene, you know, where you like

2833
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 5: you squeeze your face, you know, talking about where you're like,

2834
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:30,320
Speaker 5: don't say that, stay where you are. Never grow up, Billy.

2835
02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:32,080
Speaker 5: I want to go to high school too, you know.

2836
02:12:32,360 --> 02:12:35,280
Speaker 5: And and that's how I feel. But then again, there

2837
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:37,640
Speaker 5: is this thing of like, man, there's just something about

2838
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 5: the grind and the grit that happens in my heart

2839
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 5: and especially and that's what one of the things I

2840
02:12:42,360 --> 02:12:43,840
Speaker 5: love about being Mung and being able to talk to

2841
02:12:43,880 --> 02:12:45,880
Speaker 5: younger monk kids where it's like you're gonna struggle, it's

2842
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:47,120
Speaker 5: gonna sock your mate.

2843
02:12:47,160 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's American elbow grease, dude, but yeah it's mung

2844
02:12:50,120 --> 02:12:50,720
Speaker 1: elbow grease.

2845
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. And I don't And that's my big thing. Man.

2846
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:54,720
Speaker 5: I love talking to people about it where I'm like,

2847
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:57,560
Speaker 5: this isn't among thing only, this is a human thing.

2848
02:12:58,200 --> 02:13:00,560
Speaker 5: This is a human thing. Like yeah, you're parents did

2849
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:03,440
Speaker 5: great things, universal human thing. Yeah, but yeah, but it's

2850
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:07,480
Speaker 5: select few. Yeah, but you know, but even what was saying,

2851
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 5: how like how you guys are just like, hey, you

2852
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:11,080
Speaker 5: you guys, you know your parents set you up for

2853
02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 5: a little bit better, you know, but you guys still

2854
02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:15,840
Speaker 5: worked hard where you are. It wasn't like Okay, now

2855
02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:17,680
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna play with all this like no, like

2856
02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:19,920
Speaker 5: you guys worked and then being able to pass that

2857
02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:22,480
Speaker 5: down too, you know, and I think that man, like

2858
02:13:22,600 --> 02:13:24,360
Speaker 5: we got a little more like yeah, and I we

2859
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 5: got a little bit more you know, heads up and

2860
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:28,120
Speaker 5: more step up, you know from where our parents are.

2861
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:30,400
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't have any kids, but one day,

2862
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 5: you know, when I do, like my kids will have

2863
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:35,880
Speaker 5: a little bit thirty nine married.

2864
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 1: Now what's going on there?

2865
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:38,160
Speaker 5: Man?

2866
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 1: Is that? Like is your mom and dad bummed about that?

2867
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 5: Bro'? That's a whole new surely one. I'm the only

2868
02:13:46,280 --> 02:13:49,160
Speaker 5: one in my family that's not married. Everyone's married and

2869
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:51,800
Speaker 5: has kids. My parents have twenty one grandkids. So they

2870
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:54,360
Speaker 5: love it, you know. They they love being grandparents.

2871
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 1: Tell tell them I'm too busy making you proud.

2872
02:13:56,720 --> 02:13:56,840
Speaker 2: Right.

2873
02:13:57,000 --> 02:13:59,440
Speaker 5: But in our culture, though, what what makes family, probably

2874
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:02,760
Speaker 5: the culture is raising a family, having a family, having lineage,

2875
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 5: having you know.

2876
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:03,880
Speaker 2: So.

2877
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:06,800
Speaker 5: So that's that every three to four weeks, my mom

2878
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:09,760
Speaker 5: gives me the talk. I get it, and I don't.

2879
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:11,680
Speaker 5: I don't push it away. I know that she gets

2880
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:13,120
Speaker 5: to this point where she's a little older now, so

2881
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:15,520
Speaker 5: she's nervous, like I want to instill everything I have

2882
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:17,880
Speaker 5: to you if something was to happen when she had

2883
02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:19,800
Speaker 5: some health scare, you know. And so I get it.

2884
02:14:19,880 --> 02:14:22,120
Speaker 5: I listen to it. It's about a twenty minute speech.

2885
02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:24,600
Speaker 5: It's the same it's usually on a phone call. I'm

2886
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,520
Speaker 5: driving into work. It's the same one she gives every

2887
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:30,840
Speaker 5: three to four weeks. And I listen and I say, yes, mom,

2888
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 5: mm hmm, yep, yep, great. And then sometimes she'll be like, wait,

2889
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:35,520
Speaker 5: we have some cousins, we have some daughters that are

2890
02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:37,720
Speaker 5: coming to visit from Michigan. They're at the house, like

2891
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:39,840
Speaker 5: your dad and I would love some fish. She'll bring

2892
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:42,040
Speaker 5: some fish over and I'm like, I know what you're doing,

2893
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:44,240
Speaker 5: you know, and stuff like that. But I mean, I

2894
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 5: get it. It comes from a good heart, you know,

2895
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:47,160
Speaker 5: both of them. It comes to your good heart, and

2896
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:48,120
Speaker 5: so I totally get it.

2897
02:14:48,640 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 1: Oh, tell us before we wrap up, tell us about

2898
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:53,280
Speaker 1: your show.

2899
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:56,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we got this show called Farah. It's

2900
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 5: an outdoor you guys might have heard that channel.

2901
02:14:58,720 --> 02:14:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2902
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 5: And you know, one of the craziest things was about

2903
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:04,960
Speaker 5: two and a half years ago, Patrick, one of the producers,

2904
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:06,280
Speaker 5: came up and goes, hey, I have an idea, bro.

2905
02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:08,440
Speaker 5: And he calls me up and we've been doing a

2906
02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:10,520
Speaker 5: few TV stuff for like Food Network, and then we

2907
02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:12,080
Speaker 5: were very blessed to be able to do this thing

2908
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 5: with Netflix with Iron Chef, and so he's like, I

2909
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:16,960
Speaker 5: have an idea. It's kind of crazy, but let me

2910
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:19,600
Speaker 5: pitch it to you. And he's like, this idea is

2911
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:21,240
Speaker 5: that you're going to travel the country. You're the host

2912
02:15:21,280 --> 02:15:23,600
Speaker 5: of the show. You travel the country and we find

2913
02:15:23,680 --> 02:15:26,480
Speaker 5: either invasive animals, animals that are destroying their ecosystem, or

2914
02:15:26,520 --> 02:15:28,640
Speaker 5: animals that most people just won't eat. And we're gonna

2915
02:15:28,640 --> 02:15:30,440
Speaker 5: go out with the guide. We're gonna hunt them, and

2916
02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:32,400
Speaker 5: I will go outside and well, you know, in the

2917
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:33,720
Speaker 5: area where we hunt them, we set up a grill

2918
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:35,280
Speaker 5: and we set a little mini kitchen and you cook

2919
02:15:35,480 --> 02:15:37,960
Speaker 5: out there, and I'm like, the first thing I said

2920
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:40,240
Speaker 5: to him was like, Dude, this show is so mung

2921
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:43,320
Speaker 5: it's not even funny. The idea that we're just growing

2922
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:46,160
Speaker 5: on the wild to find some kind of creature, hunt

2923
02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:48,720
Speaker 5: them down and cook it. I'm like, are you freaking

2924
02:15:48,800 --> 02:15:50,960
Speaker 5: kidding me? I'm like, what if this show, Like you know,

2925
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:52,520
Speaker 5: at that point, we didn't know if the show is

2926
02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:54,200
Speaker 5: will be picked up or not. I'm like, if this

2927
02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 5: show gets picked up, every Mung uncle and cousin will

2928
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:02,320
Speaker 5: be like, dude, like that's the show. And so they

2929
02:16:02,760 --> 02:16:05,080
Speaker 5: said yeah, So we ran like a testing and Outdoor

2930
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:07,120
Speaker 5: came back. God. We won eight episodes as Rocket and

2931
02:16:07,200 --> 02:16:11,280
Speaker 5: then in one calendar year they Greenly had three three seasons.

2932
02:16:11,320 --> 02:16:14,000
Speaker 5: So we just got done filming season three. Season one

2933
02:16:14,200 --> 02:16:17,360
Speaker 5: was released last fall, and then season two will be

2934
02:16:17,480 --> 02:16:18,560
Speaker 5: released in December.

2935
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:20,760
Speaker 1: How many episodes are you make in per release?

2936
02:16:21,320 --> 02:16:26,280
Speaker 5: See eight? And Man, I had this I'm a small

2937
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:28,920
Speaker 5: Wisconsin boy, right, I'm just from Wisconsin. I had this

2938
02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:30,800
Speaker 5: moment where I had this like come to Jesus moment

2939
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 5: where I'm like I'm like literally chest deep in chocolate

2940
02:16:35,200 --> 02:16:42,280
Speaker 5: milk water in Oklahoma City area, noodling for catfish. And

2941
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:44,480
Speaker 5: I just thought to myself, Man, if you would have

2942
02:16:44,520 --> 02:16:47,080
Speaker 5: told me this twenty years ago, eighteen year old kid

2943
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:48,640
Speaker 5: going off to college going, hey, one day, You're like,

2944
02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:51,400
Speaker 5: you're gonna be doing this cameras around and I was

2945
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:55,600
Speaker 5: just like, college leads to this, Yeah, stay in school kids,

2946
02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:57,240
Speaker 5: But it was like you know what I'm saying, Like,

2947
02:16:57,680 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know if you if you

2948
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:02,360
Speaker 5: guys ever had that like surreal moment like whoa what

2949
02:17:02,480 --> 02:17:04,240
Speaker 5: am I doing here? Like this is so amazing and

2950
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:06,680
Speaker 5: and yeah, and then you know, and the guy, you know, Nate,

2951
02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:08,200
Speaker 5: was like, oh right, I'll get your hand in there

2952
02:17:08,240 --> 02:17:11,880
Speaker 5: and let's go looking for fish. I'm like, okay, you know, yeah,

2953
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 5: but man, it's such a should you should talk about

2954
02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 5: some of the critters that are on Oh season one. Yeah,

2955
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:19,600
Speaker 5: season one we did we went that's all that whole

2956
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:22,240
Speaker 5: season's out. Yeah yeah, yeah, season one we went all out.

2957
02:17:22,320 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 5: So we uh first, uh we went wild hogs. You

2958
02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 5: know that. That was really really fun. A Burmese python

2959
02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:32,640
Speaker 5: with a guy named Dusty Crumb. Dusty Crumb you can

2960
02:17:32,680 --> 02:17:34,959
Speaker 5: find him on the History Channel and you know, he's

2961
02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:37,200
Speaker 5: got a few other little shows down there. And then

2962
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:40,080
Speaker 5: we had iguanas, which was the iguana was really special

2963
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 5: for me because I showed my dad and say, hey, Dad,

2964
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:44,200
Speaker 5: we're gonna go hunt iguanas. And he goes, oh, we

2965
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:46,680
Speaker 5: just hunt those as boys, really yeah, and so I'm like,

2966
02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:48,240
Speaker 5: really yeah, on the trees, we see them all the time,

2967
02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 5: we hunt them, we shoot him and he said that

2968
02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:52,040
Speaker 5: they had these like little twenty two guns, like like

2969
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,360
Speaker 5: they're like they're like a one loader type thing, and

2970
02:17:54,480 --> 02:17:56,560
Speaker 5: it's like basically it's like a stick, you know. And

2971
02:17:56,680 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 5: he's like, and I was thinking to myself, how did

2972
02:17:59,120 --> 02:18:01,240
Speaker 5: you guys, aim Do you know what I'm saying, because

2973
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:03,520
Speaker 5: it's like it's barely a gun, right, It's a stick

2974
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:06,039
Speaker 5: with the little like firing pin that you just hit,

2975
02:18:06,120 --> 02:18:08,000
Speaker 5: you know. And he goes, yeah, that's what we used

2976
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:10,280
Speaker 5: to do. And then he told me the recipe they used,

2977
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:12,840
Speaker 5: and it was awesome to be down in southern Florida

2978
02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:16,480
Speaker 5: hunting iguana. After we killed the iguanas to cook it

2979
02:18:16,520 --> 02:18:18,360
Speaker 5: the same way my father cooked it in the mountains

2980
02:18:18,400 --> 02:18:21,600
Speaker 5: of Laos like seventy years ago. Where I'm like, dude,

2981
02:18:22,120 --> 02:18:23,560
Speaker 5: this is so amazing. It was so special for me

2982
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:25,400
Speaker 5: and be on national TV and being able to say yep,

2983
02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:27,400
Speaker 5: dad did this seventy years ago. In Mountains of Laus,

2984
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:33,480
Speaker 5: we did a carp with bow lionfish, lion fish school.

2985
02:18:33,600 --> 02:18:36,280
Speaker 5: Oh man, yeah, lionfish. That was all. I didn't do

2986
02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:38,920
Speaker 5: the scuba diving because I'm not screw scuba servitified. But

2987
02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 5: they thought it'd be fun to put It's always a

2988
02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:43,280
Speaker 5: thing I found out. Producers think it's fun to put

2989
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:45,920
Speaker 5: a big guy in a wetsuit and just do like

2990
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:48,760
Speaker 5: a fifteen minute segment of like funny goofy movie. I

2991
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:50,600
Speaker 5: mean trying to squeeze into a wetsuit. Sure, so I

2992
02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:53,000
Speaker 5: squeezed into wetsuit, got into the water, and we were

2993
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:57,680
Speaker 5: in Destined, Florida, and they were like our captain that

2994
02:18:57,800 --> 02:18:59,000
Speaker 5: was taking us. He's like, I don't know why you

2995
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 5: put the wetsuit on his Like we tried agrees in.

2996
02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:03,280
Speaker 5: I looked at our producer. I thought it was funny,

2997
02:19:03,640 --> 02:19:06,240
Speaker 5: and I'm like, screw you, dude, are you seriously I like,

2998
02:19:06,360 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 5: I'm sweating into this wet suit, right, I'm a big dude.

2999
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:10,520
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, I just thought it would be funny.

3000
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:11,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I know you didn't need it, and I

3001
02:19:11,879 --> 02:19:14,600
Speaker 5: was like, oh, trusting your producers, that's what happens. Uh.

3002
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 5: They learned that in producers school. Yeah, it's like we're

3003
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:19,400
Speaker 5: what what kind of positions? We put him over the

3004
02:19:19,560 --> 02:19:21,360
Speaker 5: brim python I went to catch and it bit me,

3005
02:19:21,920 --> 02:19:24,760
Speaker 5: you know, and so I guess that I guess are

3006
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:26,920
Speaker 5: one of our producers says like after the outdoor guys

3007
02:19:26,920 --> 02:19:28,840
Speaker 5: saw that, they're like, dude, that got a season two,

3008
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:33,240
Speaker 5: get bit more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now now that's like

3009
02:19:33,320 --> 02:19:34,800
Speaker 5: the funny thing, you know where I'm like, oh, that's

3010
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:36,920
Speaker 5: just trying not to get bitten, you know, Like we

3011
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:40,480
Speaker 5: did one up one season we did Alligator Guard and

3012
02:19:41,040 --> 02:19:43,800
Speaker 5: it wasn't dead yet when we pulled it on you know,

3013
02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:45,800
Speaker 5: the shot in the head. But we pulled it on

3014
02:19:45,879 --> 02:19:47,480
Speaker 5: the boat. It wasn't dead yet. So I'm like, you know,

3015
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:49,879
Speaker 5: the camera guys and want our camera guys like getting

3016
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:51,520
Speaker 5: near it like kind of you know. I'm like yeah,

3017
02:19:51,840 --> 02:19:53,480
Speaker 5: and then they're like snap back, and I'm like, screw

3018
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:56,400
Speaker 5: your guys, you know. So that's kind of the fun

3019
02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:59,640
Speaker 5: thing where it's like, how can we make a scream? Yeah?

3020
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:01,560
Speaker 5: And the and what else we have, we have, yeah,

3021
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:04,920
Speaker 5: we had. That was really fun. And then season two

3022
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:07,800
Speaker 5: was you know, really fun. And that one we did,

3023
02:20:07,920 --> 02:20:11,520
Speaker 5: uh we did white tail because up in kind of

3024
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:14,920
Speaker 5: northern outside a little bit half an hour north of Minneapolis,

3025
02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:19,080
Speaker 5: this you know, just the population of dough control with

3026
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 5: a white tail. So that was a suburban environment. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

3027
02:20:22,959 --> 02:20:27,720
Speaker 5: And so uh, you know, I I grew up in Lacrosse,

3028
02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:29,800
Speaker 5: Wisconsin college there, and so I got to know the

3029
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:34,200
Speaker 5: matt McPherson, the Matthews family, you know, Matthews bo. So

3030
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:35,720
Speaker 5: we were able to use one of their bows and

3031
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:37,240
Speaker 5: it is like the first time I've ever you know,

3032
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:40,200
Speaker 5: and I had a crash course in bow, and I

3033
02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:41,879
Speaker 5: was just like, after you get done shooting a Matthew,

3034
02:20:41,920 --> 02:20:43,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know if I want to go

3035
02:20:43,800 --> 02:20:45,760
Speaker 5: back to anything else, you know. And so it was

3036
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:48,600
Speaker 5: like really fun just to go and learn the whole

3037
02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:51,680
Speaker 5: system with bow. And you know, I grew up hunting

3038
02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:53,920
Speaker 5: and fishing, but by no means an expert. And that's

3039
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:56,160
Speaker 5: what makes the show really fun. Is like the first

3040
02:20:56,200 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 5: half of the show is like I'm fish out of water,

3041
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:00,280
Speaker 5: you know, a guy takes me in, I'm going and

3042
02:21:00,400 --> 02:21:03,160
Speaker 5: then what I've been told is what the producers really

3043
02:21:03,200 --> 02:21:05,280
Speaker 5: love is the fact that the second end of the show,

3044
02:21:05,320 --> 02:21:08,600
Speaker 5: it's a reversal. So the guide he you know, they

3045
02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:11,959
Speaker 5: cooked what you know, they do, you know, and then

3046
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:14,320
Speaker 5: I get to, you know, show them like, you know,

3047
02:21:14,400 --> 02:21:15,920
Speaker 5: what I would do with you know, with the meat

3048
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:18,520
Speaker 5: or with the animal. And I think one of the

3049
02:21:18,600 --> 02:21:21,760
Speaker 5: funnest ones was a central Wisconsin area kind of near

3050
02:21:21,800 --> 02:21:25,840
Speaker 5: my hometown. We we went beaver trapping, never done it before,

3051
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:31,520
Speaker 5: and man, like, beaver's are just just a big old

3052
02:21:32,080 --> 02:21:34,560
Speaker 5: freaking yellow teeth looking back at you, and you're like,

3053
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:36,800
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you know, and they're like, oh, go

3054
02:21:36,959 --> 02:21:38,880
Speaker 5: pull that out. And I'm like pulling this thing out.

3055
02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:40,520
Speaker 5: It's just like thick fur.

3056
02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:42,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh yeah, nothing better.

3057
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:45,400
Speaker 5: And then we broke it down and like we ate it.

3058
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:47,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is delicious, but I love it, you know,

3059
02:21:48,520 --> 02:21:50,720
Speaker 5: but it's just I mean, it's a big rodent, you know,

3060
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:53,360
Speaker 5: and you're just like, Okay, here we go, you know.

3061
02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:56,680
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean we have some We shot season

3062
02:21:56,920 --> 02:21:59,280
Speaker 5: three and then hopefully we'll hear back about season four.

3063
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:01,040
Speaker 5: But it's a really really fun show. We just came

3064
02:22:01,080 --> 02:22:04,120
Speaker 5: out on they have it streaming now on my outdoor TV.

3065
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:05,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

3066
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:06,960
Speaker 5: There's like this other show I see on there too,

3067
02:22:07,080 --> 02:22:12,320
Speaker 5: call me Eater something like that. Every time I go

3068
02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:13,680
Speaker 5: on there, you know, there's a picture of some.

3069
02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:18,520
Speaker 8: Guys the hotel room, uh, driving into a town a

3070
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:21,520
Speaker 8: couple of weeks ago, and she's liked, well, what email?

3071
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:26,280
Speaker 8: And I gave her the email, which is at the

3072
02:22:26,440 --> 02:22:30,920
Speaker 8: Meat Eater, and she immediately started laughing.

3073
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:36,440
Speaker 5: And I was like, Nope, that's what it is. She okay.

3074
02:22:37,800 --> 02:22:41,360
Speaker 5: It's like it's like, why is it? Seymour butts at me?

3075
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:45,400
Speaker 5: Wait are you serious, sir?

3076
02:22:45,879 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 1: You know, so tell people how to find you. Yeah,

3077
02:22:49,800 --> 02:22:50,960
Speaker 1: we have the restaurant.

3078
02:22:51,080 --> 02:22:54,160
Speaker 5: Yea restaurant is at Union Munk Kitchen. It's a Union

3079
02:22:54,280 --> 02:22:57,400
Speaker 5: Munk Kitchen yep. So uh you know, uh, you know,

3080
02:22:57,520 --> 02:23:00,960
Speaker 5: on Instagram all those other platforms. And then me is

3081
02:23:01,280 --> 02:23:03,279
Speaker 5: for me, it's at yea Vang seven.

3082
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:08,160
Speaker 1: Zero, got it? And then outdoor Channel, Oh yeah, outdoor

3083
02:23:08,200 --> 02:23:09,720
Speaker 1: Channel my outdoor TV app.

3084
02:23:10,240 --> 02:23:13,039
Speaker 5: Yep, my outdoor TV app. It's like great man first,

3085
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:15,039
Speaker 5: was it first thirty days or free or something? There?

3086
02:23:15,160 --> 02:23:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, you're coming over for dinner night,

3087
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, about that.

3088
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:20,960
Speaker 5: Well, Karan said something about it. Well, I was just

3089
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:23,120
Speaker 5: trying to be cool about it. You know. Do you

3090
02:23:23,160 --> 02:23:25,080
Speaker 5: know how many friends text me goes, dude, what are

3091
02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:27,880
Speaker 5: you doing in Bozman? And I'm like, ah, stuff, And

3092
02:23:27,959 --> 02:23:30,000
Speaker 5: then and then somebody goes, is it you're going to

3093
02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:31,600
Speaker 5: go with me? And you were Stephen in the Boys

3094
02:23:31,640 --> 02:23:34,040
Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, maybe, and then they're all like

3095
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:35,320
Speaker 5: freaking out a little bit. So I'm like, dude, just

3096
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:35,880
Speaker 5: be cool. Man.

3097
02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:37,440
Speaker 1: Well, hope you did a good enough job.

3098
02:23:37,720 --> 02:23:40,640
Speaker 5: You'll have to just hold the plate as Steve Grill and.

3099
02:23:42,959 --> 02:23:46,400
Speaker 1: I got grill. It's home cooking right now. Yeah, it's

3100
02:23:46,400 --> 02:23:47,000
Speaker 1: already cooking.

3101
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:47,720
Speaker 5: That's awesome.

3102
02:23:47,920 --> 02:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're gonna have some chips, potato chips. Oh yeah, is.

3103
02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:56,600
Speaker 5: This Montana culture you're teaching me?

3104
02:23:58,200 --> 02:23:59,800
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming out, man, I appreciate it.

3105
02:24:00,120 --> 02:24:02,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me man. It's awesome. It's awesome

3106
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:04,840
Speaker 5: to be here man. And it's my first time Bozman,

3107
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:06,440
Speaker 5: so Jordan and I first time Bozeman. We got a

3108
02:24:06,520 --> 02:24:07,840
Speaker 5: chance to well welcome, enjoy the.

3109
02:24:07,840 --> 02:24:11,560
Speaker 1: Mountains and yeah, Yang, thanks for coming out man. Of course, Boner,

3110
02:24:11,600 --> 02:24:14,039
Speaker 1: I'll see you. I'll see you at Youth turk.

3111
02:24:14,400 --> 02:24:15,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

3112
02:24:15,920 --> 02:24:16,840
Speaker 1: You know where I'll be. Am.

3113
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:18,560
Speaker 5: I invited to dinner too, You.

3114
02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:19,480
Speaker 1: Are inviting dinner.

3115
02:24:20,360 --> 02:24:22,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're looking forward to it.

3116
02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:24,600
Speaker 1: I get that high, feel that youth turkey again.

3117
02:24:25,959 --> 02:24:30,080
Speaker 4: All right, Well, dog said, if I came for the

3118
02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:32,279
Speaker 4: first time of my girls, he give me that spot.

3119
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:33,760
Speaker 5: No, no, no, he did.

3120
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:35,280
Speaker 1: I'll call, I'll take care of it.

3121
02:24:35,360 --> 02:24:35,840
Speaker 5: I'll let you know.

3122
02:24:36,760 --> 02:24:41,199
Speaker 1: I know what he says. All right, thanks, guys, Thanks.

3123
02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:59,280
Speaker 5: Oh see you Gray shine like silver in the sun.

3124
02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:12,800
Speaker 5: Ride ride, ride on alone of Sweetheart. We're done beat

3125
02:25:12,879 --> 02:25:17,080
Speaker 5: this damp horse to death, so taking a new one

3126
02:25:17,840 --> 02:25:18,879
Speaker 5: and ride away.

3127
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:27,480
Speaker 1: We're done beat this damn horse today, so take a

3128
02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:29,640
Speaker 1: new one and ride on.