Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Dan Harris. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. With me, of course, is
Speaker 1: Matt Perrault, host of the Daily Juice podcast. You can
Speaker 1: find him on Twitter at Sports Talk Matt. What's up, Matt?
Speaker 1: How's it going well?
Speaker 2: And? Okay? Week one for US? Huh, three and two.
Speaker 2: I'm still smarting from the Titans game. Still hurting, but
Speaker 2: otherwise it's good talking football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. And was three and two in the
Speaker 1: circa as well.
Speaker 2: Two and three in the circa.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so let's touch briefly on what
Speaker 1: we did last week. And actually I realized, Matt, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can do this in the circa,
Speaker 1: but you can see the breakdown of the pick percentage
Speaker 1: on draftings well from last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What circa does is Circa gives you what's called
Speaker 2: the consensus odds that they come out before the before
Speaker 2: the games kick on Sunday, they'll they'll give you the
Speaker 2: number of picks and tell you what the most popular
Speaker 2: picks were. So that's often been a key here in
Speaker 2: Vegas that when the Westgate in the circa, consensus comes out,
Speaker 2: the you can fade or follow it. You know, either
Speaker 2: either you like it or you don't. But people have
Speaker 2: actually used that for betting information to help them as
Speaker 2: to what side to be on for games. When the
Speaker 2: consensus comes out, when you've got quote unquote the handicappers
Speaker 2: picking one side of the other.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that comes out though for this week, right,
Speaker 1: I mean for the upcoming week? Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Once, once everything is submitted on Saturday at three o'clock,
Speaker 2: then it comes out either Saturday night or Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: You finally before the game's kick, you know what the
Speaker 2: consensus is.
Speaker 1: So do you know what the most heavily picked game
Speaker 1: was in the circa?
Speaker 2: I do, but I forget what it was. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: can find out though.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the breakdown at DraftKings, and it's interesting
Speaker 1: the most picked game actually where the most picked team
Speaker 1: was the Panthers getting three and a half, which is
Speaker 1: probably why people didn't have, you know, such a great
Speaker 1: day because obviously the Raiders covered winning by four. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're three and two, just to recount it before and
Speaker 1: one should be four and one. We hit on the
Speaker 1: Ravens lane eight and a half to the Browns. The
Speaker 1: Cardinals lank six and a half, getting six and a
Speaker 1: half from the forty nine ers. That was a peralte special.
Speaker 1: The Saints laying three and a half to the Bucks,
Speaker 1: which we both really like we missed on. The Titans
Speaker 1: lank two and a half to the Broacos, the most
Speaker 1: improbable loss that could possibly be, which you called by
Speaker 1: the way you called like midway through the third he
Speaker 1: was just like, this is a two point loss, guaranteed
Speaker 1: with what's how it's going to play out. And then
Speaker 1: the Dolphins also, I mean they you know, I don't
Speaker 1: feel bad about that one, but they obviously were very
Speaker 1: close to covering the six and a half point spread
Speaker 1: from the Patriots.
Speaker 2: But so here are did just so you know, here
Speaker 2: are the most popular picks in the circa. Okay, the
Speaker 2: most popular pick was the Rams plus three against the Cowboys, yep.
Speaker 2: The second most popular was the Titans minus two and
Speaker 2: a half, which we clearly were on, the Cardinals plus
Speaker 2: six and a half, which we were on. Ye, the
Speaker 2: Bills at minus six and a half, which we also
Speaker 2: were on. In the Browns plus eight was a bad loser.
Speaker 2: That was a loser. Early we were on the other
Speaker 2: side of that, we had the Ravens. It was eight
Speaker 2: in the circle, seven and a half in the DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was split pretty evenly. On DraftKings. Thirteen percent
Speaker 1: took the Ravens, twelve percent took the Browns, as you called.
Speaker 1: By the way, with that Patriots, you know, obviously this
Speaker 1: contest is opened in New Hampshire, so you thought there'd
Speaker 1: be a lot of New England. Twenty two almost twenty
Speaker 1: three percent on the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Like six and a half, so.
Speaker 1: That one would have been big. But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: I might have some feelings on that game coming into it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're in for a good week this week.
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Speaker 1: get into it, really more one thing. Here's the deal.
Speaker 1: This is Wednesday. It's Wednesday night. We're recording this because
Speaker 1: we want to perhaps talk about the Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: We want to do that every week. I'm not putting
Speaker 1: in the picks until late in the week, until Friday,
Speaker 1: maybe Saturday or something like that. It is possible. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put this out there, mat because you and I
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit coming into the last week,
Speaker 1: about whether or not we would make the picks final,
Speaker 1: whether we would ever change, and we don't want to
Speaker 1: do that because we're representing this you guys. But follow
Speaker 1: us on Twitter at Dan Harris Adian at Sports Talk, Matt,
Speaker 1: because if we do have something comes up, maybe there's
Speaker 1: a massive injury that changes the way we feel about
Speaker 1: That's why I'm gona wait a little bit again. You
Speaker 1: can wait till Sunday morning. We'll let you know on
Speaker 1: Twitter if we're making a different pick. But for now,
Speaker 1: we're gonna settle on our five picks. So Matt, why
Speaker 1: don't you start us off here? I like the way
Speaker 1: we did it last time, you letting me know what
Speaker 1: what picks you're kind of feeling right now, and it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're you're confident on a couple of them.
Speaker 2: So I like a couple of them, a couple of
Speaker 2: our bounce back spots. And this is where I need
Speaker 2: to see what the number is going to be here,
Speaker 2: yep for the DraftKings, and we won't know that until tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But if the Panthers are catching ten points from Tampa,
Speaker 2: I I think the Panthers are gonna keep that game
Speaker 2: closer than the line suggests. I think Christian McCaffery Week
Speaker 2: one to Week two, I think we're gonna see a
Speaker 2: pretty big jump up here in Joe Brady's offense. And
Speaker 2: I wasn't really all that in the rilled with Tampa's
Speaker 2: defense all that much, and watching the Saints, the Saints
Speaker 2: could have put up a lot more points than they did.
Speaker 2: Now they won and covered, but they could have put
Speaker 2: up more points. That offense wasn't doing very much. And
Speaker 2: I actually watching you know, Bridgewater and them putt up
Speaker 2: thirty points on the Raiders. If it's ten, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be hard for me not to say, first take a
Speaker 2: double digit dog there with plus ten against Tampa.
Speaker 1: First of all, what is it at the CIRCA? Has
Speaker 1: it locked yet?
Speaker 2: It's not locked yet. It would come out tomorrow right now.
Speaker 2: DraftKings has it in nine and a half.
Speaker 1: DraftKings is at nine and a half right now, right right.
Speaker 2: Now, so I'm looking at DraftKings lines, so I'm guessing
Speaker 2: they might it may come out at nine and a half,
Speaker 2: but they might go to ten because they often try
Speaker 2: and try to anticipate where the line movement's going to
Speaker 2: go for these contests. So if it is gonna be ten, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean double digits. I know it's a double digit
Speaker 2: road dog, but double digits in the division. Brady's gonna
Speaker 2: throw picks. That's gonna happen. He's gonna turn the football
Speaker 2: over this year. And I wasn't thrilled with the running game.
Speaker 2: I think Carolina can keep that game relatively close.
Speaker 1: So I think Carolina is the right side of it,
Speaker 1: even a nine and a half. Frankly, I think Carolina
Speaker 1: is the right side of it. Don't forget Chris Godwin
Speaker 1: placed in the concussion protocol today. Yeah, probably not gonna play.
Speaker 1: I mean again, you never know with concussions, but when
Speaker 1: you only develop symptoms midweek, it seems really difficult to
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna be able to set up for
Speaker 1: that game. So that does hurt. But obviously they have
Speaker 1: other options like Scotty Miller and everything like that.
Speaker 2: But Mike Evans has a bum hamstring too.
Speaker 1: So but he played. I mean he played a lot
Speaker 1: of snaps, you know, and so who knows my legitimately,
Speaker 1: I think that's the right side. My one thing on it,
Speaker 1: my literally one thing The only thing gives me hesitation
Speaker 1: is that Brady was kind of embarrassed in that game, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, arians is calling him out. It was a
Speaker 1: big game, you know, everybody was watching. Didn't play particularly well.
Speaker 1: Whether or not it was entirely his fault in look great. Certainly,
Speaker 1: the angry Tom Brady bounce back want to put you know,
Speaker 1: his foot on your throat. That worries me a little. However,
Speaker 1: with that said, I'm in complete agreement. I think the
Speaker 1: Panthers defense is terrible. I mean, they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to stop anybody, but I like their offense, and
Speaker 1: I do think that they're going to be able to
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're talking double digits, I agree. I
Speaker 1: think that that is the right side of this game,
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to keep it close.
Speaker 1: And I would even consider it at nine and a half,
Speaker 1: although it's obviously a lot less tempting. So let's put
Speaker 1: that one on the maybe list and let's get to
Speaker 1: your next one.
Speaker 2: Next one is I am going to ride the Cardinals
Speaker 2: this year? Yep, I just Washington wins. So this number
Speaker 2: is below seven. I think if Washington lost that game
Speaker 2: to Philly, if they got beat seventeen three or something.
Speaker 2: This line's probably eight. Maybe it's eight and a half
Speaker 2: under seven six and a half. Cardinals at home home
Speaker 2: opener against Washington. Give me the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Man, you can't see me right now, but I'm writing
Speaker 1: it in in penn because I like it too. I look,
Speaker 1: I think it was great for Washington to wind up
Speaker 1: winning that game for Ron Rivera, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: their first game, fantastic, really good. Washington is not a
Speaker 1: good football team. They they have a strong defensive line.
Speaker 1: They can get pressure, but there's a big difference between
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz in the second half holding the ball forever
Speaker 1: and a guy like Kyler Murray who's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to avoid pressure. I liked a lot what I saw
Speaker 1: from the Cardinals, and kudos to you because you were
Speaker 1: on them. I was hesitant with that game either way,
Speaker 1: whichever way we went. We were debating that where the
Speaker 1: Bills against the Jets. We're gonna be right either way.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really liked what I saw from them,
Speaker 1: certainly from Hopkins. I like their offense. I think their
Speaker 1: defense is you know, not nearly as bad, you know,
Speaker 1: and the you know, where the race Joseph.
Speaker 2: I mean, I look at some guys are born to
Speaker 2: be coordinators. Okay, some guys aren't good head coaches. Vince
Speaker 2: Joseph was a disaster as a head coach. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he in the second half made some tremendous adjustments. I
Speaker 2: watched every snap of that game. I just really impressed
Speaker 2: what they did in the second half against the Niners.
Speaker 1: Yeah against that Yeah, no, I completely agree. I watched
Speaker 1: that game closely as well. Yeah, they played really really well.
Speaker 1: Impressed me. I was not on We talked about it
Speaker 1: on a preview on the NFC preview. I was not
Speaker 1: all that in on them before the season, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was very impressive. Why I saw so
Speaker 1: that was one of the games that I targeted to
Speaker 1: that is locked in in penn Arizona laying six and
Speaker 1: a half to Washington. All right, what else you have?
Speaker 2: If he runs too, if Murray is allowed to run
Speaker 2: like he was in the second half, Yeah, boy, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you need you need a mobile quarterback,
Speaker 1: by the way, I mean that is the one thing
Speaker 1: with the redsk with Washington. Pardon me caught myself, Yes,
Speaker 1: you need a mobile quarterback, and you've got Murray and
Speaker 1: again with Hopkins, he just changes that. I mean really,
Speaker 1: and that's all there was because Christian Kirk had a
Speaker 1: terrible get, like like a really abysmal game. It was
Speaker 1: literally just that and the running game, and they were
Speaker 1: able to do it. And again defensively, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: they were fairly impressive. So yeah, I'm all about that pick.
Speaker 1: It is written in Penn.
Speaker 2: Go to your next one, Ravens against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2: The Ravens are going to destroy early. You're not gonna
Speaker 2: without having time to practice. These dudes are gonna run
Speaker 2: the score up. I think on nearly everyone that they play.
Speaker 2: The Texans defense is not good, and I know their
Speaker 2: offense isn't bad. Okay, Watson is not bad, but they're
Speaker 2: missing Hopkins and showed, and I know the number. I
Speaker 2: don't love it at seven it I would prefer it
Speaker 2: six and a half.
Speaker 1: I've got it's now seven and a half in DraftKings.
Speaker 2: By the way, really, i'm staring at the app. Did
Speaker 2: turned the changed while we were talking.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at seven and a half and I thought
Speaker 1: I looked early and it was.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at seven right now, well, are you.
Speaker 1: In the contest. It might be different things for the contest.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Matt, I'm not one hundred percent
Speaker 1: shory that these aren't the final lines. They may have
Speaker 1: set the lines already for the contest. And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm wondering about.
Speaker 2: Did they send them out to you?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just I'm just logged in, I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: Am I I'm looking at the app. On the app,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it says seven on the app.
Speaker 1: But are you in the contest?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: That is the difference. I think. I think they may
Speaker 1: have set the contest line.
Speaker 2: That's good, right, because they try to anticipate that makes sense, correct.
Speaker 2: What they try to do is guess where the line's
Speaker 2: gonna move exactly. So it's seven and a half in the.
Speaker 1: Contract, correct. And that's why I was I was really
Speaker 1: surprised when you came out with that.
Speaker 2: I was like, WHOA, all right, all right, I was
Speaker 2: looking at seven, So that's on me, so I a lot.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's know, I'm gonna switch here. What's
Speaker 2: what's the number for the Rams and the Eagles?
Speaker 1: The Rams and the Eagles, I believe as the Eagles
Speaker 1: laying one and a half.
Speaker 2: See they're plus one at DraftKings. Wow. So the Rams,
Speaker 2: the Rams are getting so they think Philly money is
Speaker 2: gonna come in heavy, which makes sense of where they are.
Speaker 1: I do too, by the way, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that's the right side of this game, as much as
Speaker 1: I'm a little scared because I think you made the
Speaker 1: great point, which I think is one hundred percent true
Speaker 1: that the whole no fans golf being able to hear
Speaker 1: McVeigh until the last possible second is really going to
Speaker 1: make a difference. But this is the classic by low
Speaker 1: Sell high right, I mean, because the Cowboys easily could
Speaker 1: have won that game easily with you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you get rid of that you know, bogus offensive
Speaker 1: pass interference calling, Gallup easily could have won that game.
Speaker 1: So Eagles are one of the games that I'm kind
Speaker 1: of looking at. I'm nervous about it again, but they're
Speaker 1: obviously anticipating that money is going to come in on
Speaker 1: the Eagles here.
Speaker 2: So look at oh and two starts in Philadelphia do
Speaker 2: not go over very well. Right.
Speaker 1: So the by the way, Miles Sanders and I think
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson are both expected to play. So I think
Speaker 1: that's a big deal.
Speaker 2: I I like the Eagles here, and if we're laying
Speaker 2: a point, okay, if we're catching a point, okay, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Really It's basically right, it doesn't make a difference, right.
Speaker 2: So so I'm I'm going, I'm going. I think the
Speaker 2: Eagles will bounce back. I think they'll they'll play better.
Speaker 2: So I like that game. I like the Eagles to
Speaker 2: cover that, to cover that and basically pick them type
Speaker 2: of type of spread. Another game that that I like.
Speaker 2: And I'm curious to get your take on. So, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm too close to this because
Speaker 2: of where I live. But the Raiders are at home
Speaker 2: catching six at DraftKings. What's the contest line?
Speaker 1: Six and a half?
Speaker 2: Beautiful yep, Raiders plus six and a half against the Saints.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, oh no oh no, this is
Speaker 1: my bad five and a half. I thought it was
Speaker 1: six and a half when I checked five and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we can't play that because that's my rule.
Speaker 2: So I know I would love it five and a half.
Speaker 2: You're just I'm done. I I won't touch it. It's
Speaker 2: just it's just a number that I can't I can't
Speaker 2: do because I want to. I would say the right
Speaker 2: side here is the Raiders at six and a half,
Speaker 2: because I think it's probably a three to four point
Speaker 2: win for the Saints. Yeah, and I think the Vegas
Speaker 2: Raiders will will keep the game close. And look it,
Speaker 2: Ruggs got hurt a little bit in the game in
Speaker 2: that last week, which was against Carolina, which a little
Speaker 2: bit concerning, so hopefully the knee is okay. He says
Speaker 2: he's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like he'll be a right and he
Speaker 1: came back.
Speaker 2: I mean that was a big Jacobs is a monster.
Speaker 2: I love Waller. The offensive line is incredibly good, and
Speaker 2: they got some good news with Trent Brown who's supposed
Speaker 2: to be okay at right tackle, so that's big. The defense, look,
Speaker 2: Abram is a thumper at safety. They Farrell made the
Speaker 2: play of the game to stop the fullback dive to
Speaker 2: win the game. So that's a guy that people always
Speaker 2: ripped and said, hey, not a first round pick. Now
Speaker 2: a top four not top five pickers should say coming
Speaker 2: out of Clemson. I love the pick. I mean, whoever
Speaker 2: you like, take the guy who cares he's supposed to
Speaker 2: be taken in the fifteenth round. Oh cares if you
Speaker 2: like him, take him. I don't care. If he works
Speaker 2: well for your system, who cares where he's supposed to
Speaker 2: be projected to be taken. And he played really well
Speaker 2: other than that, though, the linebacking issues you've got, you know,
Speaker 2: some corner issues. But I don't like that Saints offense
Speaker 2: all that much. So I mean, I guess I could
Speaker 2: be talked into five and a half if you really
Speaker 2: really like it, but I'm a little bit scared of
Speaker 2: that number being five.
Speaker 1: And a half, so I broke it down. I don't
Speaker 1: have the I won't play five and a half Matt
Speaker 1: perraultism that you like, I would play it. It's not
Speaker 1: one of my favorite games of the week, but I
Speaker 1: think that is the right side, even at five and
Speaker 1: a half. And again, don't forget Michael Thomas almost surely
Speaker 1: out and you know, I get that. You know it's
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. It's not the type of player who
Speaker 1: would necessarily move a line huge by himself. But seriously,
Speaker 1: that offense goes through Breeze and Michael Thomas. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you have Kamara and they're gonna lean on the
Speaker 1: running game, which they they tried to do again against Tampa,
Speaker 1: even though again that's not really a defense that you
Speaker 1: can run against. But on that their number one wide
Speaker 1: receiver is now Emmanuel Sanders and their number two wide
Speaker 1: receiver is trey Quan Smith. That's just not an offense.
Speaker 1: And I get they have Darren Cook. It's not an
Speaker 1: offense you expect to go crazy. And again the raiders
Speaker 1: off and is decent.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's gonna be more than deepest, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you it's gonna be more than decent. They're gonna
Speaker 2: put It all comes down to Derek Carr, who made
Speaker 2: a couple of unbelievable throws against Carolina. If he plays,
Speaker 2: if he steps up and has you know, a twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen Derek Carr version, that offense is gonna be a
Speaker 2: ton of fun and they're gonna put up points.
Speaker 1: All right. So that was one where I was I
Speaker 1: had like the I like, I maybe like and I
Speaker 1: sort of kind of a little bit like that was
Speaker 1: sort of the sort of kind of little bit like,
Speaker 1: So I'm on the let's put that one on the
Speaker 1: on the side for now.
Speaker 2: When anything else, Yeah, which game do you like better?
Speaker 2: Which which road favor do you like better forty nine
Speaker 2: Ers at the Jets or Buffalo Bills of Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll be honest. I neither one of those games
Speaker 1: is on my list. And here's my problem with the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I they should absolutely destroy the Jets.
Speaker 1: We talked about that. You saw now what I know,
Speaker 1: which is the Jets are like a really, really awful
Speaker 1: football team and now they have no Levon Belt. Even
Speaker 1: Jameson Crowder was limited with a knee injury in practice
Speaker 1: this week. But I don't think George Kittle is gonna play.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna mispractice all week and then maybe playing.
Speaker 1: If you're the forty nine ers, why in the world
Speaker 1: are you gonna waste George Kittle against that team? You know,
Speaker 1: obviously you know the wide receivers. You know, it sounds
Speaker 1: like Brandon Ayuka is gonna play, which is good. But
Speaker 1: again that's like, okay, this is who we're relying on.
Speaker 1: And the one thing that the Jets do kind of well,
Speaker 1: and you kind of saw it last week against the Bills.
Speaker 1: They defend the run pretty well, like it's not that bad.
Speaker 1: At the same time, it's seven and a half. By
Speaker 1: the way, I don't know what line ups. What were
Speaker 1: you looking at?
Speaker 2: Seven?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's seven and a half. That's given me
Speaker 1: a lot of Now, even then, I still think they'd
Speaker 1: probably cover it. As for the Bills against Miami, that's
Speaker 1: a five and a half, by the way, So that's
Speaker 1: just to be clear, that's not a Matte Perrault.
Speaker 2: I was asking to see which one you would like.
Speaker 2: I preferred seven. I prefer the forty nine ers, But
Speaker 2: seven and a half I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I mean right, So if you're making
Speaker 1: me choose a game there, like, I'd probably go Buffalo.
Speaker 1: But I can certainly see a backdoor cover by FITZI,
Speaker 1: you know, basically what he could have done what he
Speaker 1: always does. Yeah. Well, all right, So if we are
Speaker 1: talking about breaking the Matt paratisms, which I don't think
Speaker 1: we're going to, but I want to know about your
Speaker 1: feelings on tomorrow's game, the Bengals against five and a
Speaker 1: halfway five and a half?
Speaker 2: Oh my mm hmm. Okay, that's interesting. It's a five
Speaker 2: and a half point number.
Speaker 1: Why you're seeing that? What six?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing about Thursday games, and you can
Speaker 2: tell me how you feel about how do you feel
Speaker 2: about rookies making their first start on the road in primetime.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have any data off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, but I don't love it, Like it
Speaker 1: doesn't get me excited about it.
Speaker 2: Because Joe Burrow played really well. At the end of
Speaker 2: the game, aj Green pushes off and if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for that flag, they win the game and they're one
Speaker 2: to oh and they beat the Chargers. In this line
Speaker 2: might be a little bit different than it is, yep,
Speaker 2: because if he plays well, I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: monster game for Baker Man, this is this is I
Speaker 2: don't want to call it make or break for Baker,
Speaker 2: but in primetime on Thursday night, after getting your doors
Speaker 2: blown off by the Ravens, if you open up zero
Speaker 2: and two with a couple of awful performances, so Fantasy's
Speaker 2: gonna pull out every darn trick that he's got. And
Speaker 2: this is your in state rival, Yep, you gotta win
Speaker 2: this game. If you're the clean Browns, you have no choice.
Speaker 2: So I don't hate the five and a half because
Speaker 2: I think it's probably gonna be a seven point victory.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, I'm gonna put that one on the
Speaker 1: maybe list. I put that one as a game that
Speaker 1: I like this week, but it was very much of
Speaker 1: a well, we can't do.
Speaker 2: It's because the public's gonna, by the way, the public's
Speaker 2: gonna be all over the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right, and that's that makes me even more
Speaker 1: happy to be on the Browns.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants. This is a bounced back spot. I think
Speaker 1: for the Browns here. I mean, again, they look terrible,
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of like, I give any team that
Speaker 1: looks terrible a little bit of a pass against the
Speaker 1: Ravens because they're the Ravens and they're elite on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball.
Speaker 2: And win week one to week two. Adjustments are dramatic,
Speaker 2: I mean correctly.
Speaker 1: And again that part of it is, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to It's a new head coach, it's the
Speaker 1: opening week, you haven't had any preseason games. I mean,
Speaker 1: for that, with everything they've got in Cleveland, like I
Speaker 1: really want to like, I think both running backs are
Speaker 1: gonna be able to run all over. I think they're
Speaker 1: going to make a point to make Beckham happy here,
Speaker 1: and I think that he's gonna get on the scoreboards
Speaker 1: out for me, I would be willing to go this way,
Speaker 1: but let's put that on the side. We've got a
Speaker 1: couple of games. Do you have any others? And do
Speaker 1: you want me to start naming some games that I like?
Speaker 2: Go ahead and name some games, because those are the
Speaker 2: ones that jumped out, except we I definitely want to
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about what's going on between the
Speaker 2: Colts and the Vikings.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Oh well, that's that's one of the
Speaker 1: things I want to talk about. But before we get there,
Speaker 1: and the fact that you don't bring this up makes
Speaker 1: me think you probably don't like it. But the Pats
Speaker 1: going to Seattle.
Speaker 2: Oh not even I don't want to do you don't.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, okay.
Speaker 2: Because the Patriots, the Patriots are going to play ball
Speaker 2: control yep, and Russell Wilson's gonna try to put points up.
Speaker 2: This is this is one of those games for the
Speaker 2: Patriots that Belichick needs to pull a rabbit out. He
Speaker 2: always can. He can do that, right, And look, their
Speaker 2: secondary is really talented in Stephan Gilmour. I mean you
Speaker 2: you want to challenge that dude, I mean's he's a
Speaker 2: he's approaching like Reeva's Island type stuff. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: throw on this guy, he's gonna he's gonna pick it off.
Speaker 2: And he did it last week. So I just wonder
Speaker 2: who he winds up covering for Seattle.
Speaker 1: He's gonna cover Metcalf. Man, he's gonna cover Metcap He's
Speaker 1: gonna cover Metcalf. Locket's gonna play in the slot and
Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens. And I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to take away Metcalf. Now, look, Seattle's gonna score.
Speaker 1: But yeah, first of all, I think what's the what
Speaker 1: do you think the spread is? By the way, just
Speaker 1: to be clear, I don't know what it is three
Speaker 1: and a half or four. It's three and a half.
Speaker 1: It's three and a half. Okay, so we had to
Speaker 1: correct then that that hook.
Speaker 2: The hook worries me a little bit just because it's
Speaker 2: the last second. This is such a big difference between
Speaker 2: three and a half and three. But so you like
Speaker 2: the Patriots here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually like the Patriots Again. Part of it
Speaker 1: is remember that home field advantage gone gone? Like there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean that the pumping in the
Speaker 1: crowd noise isn't gonna be the same as having that
Speaker 1: crazy stadium going absolutely nuts. I think you've got Belichick.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is completely anecdy total and I'll
Speaker 1: probably catch a little flak for this, but Belichick's mother
Speaker 1: died obviously today. I do feel like you've got a
Speaker 1: little bit of the rally around coach and show them
Speaker 1: what we can do. And they looked good, Like I
Speaker 1: realized that they you know, Cam look like Cam. You know,
Speaker 1: they were willing to do that. I think they can
Speaker 1: open it up more if they need to. I see
Speaker 1: this as a game that plays out really, really close.
Speaker 1: I think the Falcons defense is just terrible and they
Speaker 1: were just able to do whatever they wanted against them.
Speaker 1: I think the Pats are going to be able to
Speaker 1: keep this close. And if I'm getting this hook at
Speaker 1: a half point, I would be willing to roll with
Speaker 1: the Patriots. But that's me.
Speaker 2: But I'll get I put it in the maybe category,
Speaker 2: but I will I will say this, if we get
Speaker 2: this pick wrong and we start owing to involving Patriot games,
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna be happy with ourselves.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: That's that can make me really frustrated to get two
Speaker 2: picts wrong on my team.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Go to the Vikings. Cults, then
Speaker 1: let's talk about that one, because.
Speaker 2: I mean, both these teams are on and one and
Speaker 2: the Vikings look like crap. I mean it was, I
Speaker 2: mean that off it's looked horrendous, and you have the
Speaker 2: home opener. Both these teams play in a dome. But
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers has got to play better. He can't be
Speaker 2: throwing interceptions and look in mac now being out out
Speaker 2: for a while really hurts the run. Yeah he's done,
Speaker 2: he's done. But but I look, that's why they went
Speaker 2: and mean spent draft capital to go in and bring
Speaker 2: in running backs. I I just think this is a
Speaker 2: spot where I don't know how good that Vikings defense is.
Speaker 2: I mean culture at home, laying just three, right, I've.
Speaker 1: Got at three and a half. I see. I like
Speaker 1: the Vikings.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe three and.
Speaker 1: A half because again, I do think even look in
Speaker 1: that game, the Vikings look terrible. Their defense is terrible,
Speaker 1: or at least their past defense was terrible. But again,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of new guys, some young guys, like
Speaker 1: you have this first game, there's gonna be communication issues
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, and you've got one
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, probably pissed off
Speaker 1: and wanting to make a stable.
Speaker 2: Not probably, it's gonna look like that was real. Was
Speaker 2: the first round pick to draft my successor watch what
Speaker 2: I can do here.
Speaker 1: So Rivers is a guy who I actually thought was
Speaker 1: not done. He looked terrible. I mean, he just looked terrible.
Speaker 1: I like their receivers. I like Uy Hilton, I really
Speaker 1: like Paris Campbell. Think Pittman Junior is going to be
Speaker 1: a star. Their defense just kind of disappointed given what
Speaker 1: Jacksonville was able to do. I thought they'd be a
Speaker 1: little better. So for me, this is a game that
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings can keep it close. And again
Speaker 1: they were bad offensively in the beginning. Once they opened
Speaker 1: it up, obviously, you know, maybe the Packers took their
Speaker 1: foot off the gas. Again. Another game where if I'm
Speaker 1: getting the hook, I kind of like the Vikings there.
Speaker 1: I get that they're home but homefield enough too.
Speaker 2: I like three and a half. And look, that was
Speaker 2: the most expensive game of the weekend for the Circus Survivor,
Speaker 2: where it's a one thousand dollars entry for a one
Speaker 2: million dollar first place prize. There were there's I think
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred entries in four hundred and twenty five went
Speaker 2: out Week one bolts lost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again that was the game that they Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: that was a game that they should have easily won.
Speaker 1: And then and they just kind of, you know, they
Speaker 1: blew it all right. So those are really I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about. There's one other game. I kind of like,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine you're gonna like this game, Matt. Also
Speaker 1: it falls into the Matt Perrault, Please don't bet this
Speaker 1: spread ism. But it's the Cowboys at home against the Falcons.
Speaker 1: It's four and a half. So that's already I thought.
Speaker 1: You don't like I thought, if you're four and a
Speaker 1: half or five and a half.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, four and a half of the mind,
Speaker 2: five and a half. Five and a half is the
Speaker 2: number that I built that I from the book makers
Speaker 2: I've always I've talked to. Five and a half is
Speaker 2: the number that they hang with. They just don't know
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. They think it's going to be
Speaker 2: between three and seven, so they just go five and
Speaker 2: a half and it's like a thrower at the wall thing.
Speaker 2: And more often than not, the hook or something fluky
Speaker 2: happens and you get beat by a last second field
Speaker 2: goal or something along those lines.
Speaker 1: Well, this is a game where I don't I don't
Speaker 1: love it. It was sort of the last on my list,
Speaker 1: but it's a game where Look, the Cowboys are I
Speaker 1: think a better team than they showed against the Rams,
Speaker 1: and I think the Falcons are just bad.
Speaker 2: How many how many fans are going to be there?
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, don't know. I don't know the exact limit.
Speaker 2: I know the number. It's the biggest number in the
Speaker 2: NFL for fans, And I mean what.
Speaker 1: You worry about, obviously is that the Falcons offense is
Speaker 1: good and they could easily sort of you know, have
Speaker 1: the back door cover at the end. But I do
Speaker 1: think that this could be a game you lost Game one.
Speaker 1: You've got an explosive offense. Now they've lost Laton vander
Speaker 1: Esh that's a big loss of their defense. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it does strike me as a game where they're going
Speaker 1: to come out and just be like, Okay, good luck
Speaker 1: stopping Cooper, who looked great, by the way, and you
Speaker 1: know he matched up with Ramsey, he looked great. You've
Speaker 1: obviously got ceedee Lamb. I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: big game for him. And you've got Michael Gallup, you
Speaker 1: lost Blake Jarwin. That actually is a loss. But between
Speaker 1: them and Zeke, I don't know, man, I could see
Speaker 1: them just blowing the doors, you know, out and crushing
Speaker 1: in this game.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're one of the largest money line I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at just straight money lines, or I
Speaker 2: mean minus two hundred isn't really indicative of a spread
Speaker 2: that's thirteen four and six. So yeah, the books are
Speaker 2: clearly expecting my the Cowboys to win here. It's just
Speaker 2: a matter of how many points are they gonna win by.
Speaker 2: And I'm with you on the Falcons. I mean I
Speaker 2: was really I was really shocked at how bad their
Speaker 2: defense looked. And if they just play ball control and
Speaker 2: run the ball down their throat and don't give the
Speaker 2: ball to the Falcons, I think they can cover that
Speaker 2: line pretty easily.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like the Cowboys, all right, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: can ride the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: All right, this is disgusting, but we'll put in then
Speaker 1: for pick number two, the Cowboys laying four and a
Speaker 1: half to the Falcons. So that's really where I came down.
Speaker 1: I liked the Eagles laying one and a half to
Speaker 1: the Rams. I like the Raiders maybe getting five and
Speaker 1: a half against the Saints, the Browns laying the five
Speaker 1: and a half on Thursday Night Football to the Bengals,
Speaker 1: the Pats getting the hook in Seattle with three and
Speaker 1: a half, and I like the Vikings getting the hook
Speaker 1: three and a half with the Cults. Are there any
Speaker 1: other games that you're looking at? I can run down
Speaker 1: the remaining games and tell you the spreads, and you
Speaker 1: can let me know whether or not anywhere well.
Speaker 2: I mean I think you we talked about almost all them, Chiefs, Chargers.
Speaker 2: I want no part of can't go there completely great,
Speaker 2: I want no part of that game because it's just
Speaker 2: the line was what's the line in the contest?
Speaker 1: I think it's eight and a half.
Speaker 2: And a half? Yeah, Giants Bears is interesting, it's five
Speaker 2: and a half. Now what the contest lines?
Speaker 1: What five and a half?
Speaker 2: Okay, here's my problem with the Bears. They've had they
Speaker 2: have had a tumultuous week. We don't know if Robinson
Speaker 2: wants to be there or not. He talked to the
Speaker 2: medias and everything. It's fine. I don't know. I can't
Speaker 2: standre Bitskilo. He played pretty well. I think I couldn't
Speaker 2: figure out the Lions just stink or the Bears better
Speaker 2: than we think. I don't really know the answer to
Speaker 2: that question yet. And then the Giants, I don't know
Speaker 2: what the hell was going on in that game man,
Speaker 2: watching that offense, it was like they were running in
Speaker 2: slow motion. Of all the games I watched, and I
Speaker 2: watched them all, the one game that stood out the
Speaker 2: most for not having fans that felt like a dead
Speaker 2: environment was the Giants game. It was really weird, right,
Speaker 2: it didn't It didn't feel like the other the other
Speaker 2: stadiums felt like there was I don't know more going on.
Speaker 2: They did. They did more to feel like the atmosphere
Speaker 2: or they piped. They piped in louder crowd noise or something.
Speaker 2: But it just felt like watching the first Monday Night game,
Speaker 2: I was like, this is a really bad, bad atmosphere.
Speaker 2: It was boring. So I don't know what the Bears
Speaker 2: will look like. It's a soldier field. I don't know
Speaker 2: how they're gonna be. But it's a road trip. It's
Speaker 2: Danny Dimes. But Saquon Barkley just could not run in
Speaker 2: that game. Yeah, and if he gets free in this one.
Speaker 2: The Bear's defense is very good, like we know, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I prefer the under in
Speaker 2: that game more than the side, So.
Speaker 1: I don't love the side on that one. I don't
Speaker 1: have a good feeling for it because I think that
Speaker 1: the Giants could easily beat the Bears outright. You know,
Speaker 1: the Bears are terrible for three quarters in that game
Speaker 1: where they exploded, But I don't know. I don't have
Speaker 1: a great.
Speaker 2: So that's why, yeah, I would pass on. I would
Speaker 2: pass on that game. And then that's all of them, right.
Speaker 1: Packers laying six and a half to the Lions.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I don't love it, but it's a divisional game.
Speaker 2: If I had to pick a side, I'll take the
Speaker 2: Lions plus.
Speaker 1: Me too, me too. I don't think I'm willing to
Speaker 1: go there. Steelers laying seven and a half to the Broncos.
Speaker 2: That's such a tough number.
Speaker 1: That's a tough number.
Speaker 2: Because the Broncos are without Philip Linda. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's gonna play now.
Speaker 1: Lindsay's gone and we don't know about.
Speaker 2: Something, and then Sutton is a question mark, and then
Speaker 2: I don't think Drew Lock's very good at all me neither,
Speaker 2: dude that I was impressed. I was impressed with that
Speaker 2: Steelers defense.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's legit. I mean it was legit last year
Speaker 1: when they went eight to eight with the poo poop
Speaker 1: bladder of quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: So so like, I don't know of what luck going
Speaker 2: on the road to Pittsburgh to take on that defense.
Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't know. Probably, I mean I
Speaker 2: like the Steelers there, I don't know. Seven and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, over the touchdown scares me a little little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit. Again, they're setting these lines to just
Speaker 1: basically be like, if you want this, you got to
Speaker 1: earn it. Basically is where they're at. And I think
Speaker 1: that might have been it. Yeah, that's it. So Oh
Speaker 1: the Titans eight and a half to the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Hate that number.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how they can ever
Speaker 1: kick a field goal.
Speaker 2: Again, that's too high. If it was under seven, maybe
Speaker 2: I'd think about it, but not not at that, not
Speaker 2: eight and a half.
Speaker 1: It's too so let's give the caveat by the way. Also,
Speaker 1: another game which I didn't list there was if the Panthers.
Speaker 1: The Panthers are nine and a half, So if you
Speaker 1: if you're like I want it, if it gets to ten.
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure whether or not these
Speaker 1: are the final lines. My guesses they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are because Wednesday, because that's what Johnny Vella
Speaker 2: told me, that they put their lines up on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: And I need to make a pick right now and
Speaker 1: lock it in.
Speaker 2: Then yes, yeah, and the lines aren't moving.
Speaker 1: So nine and a half, which is a lot, but
Speaker 1: it is something where I'm not totally opposed to that,
Speaker 1: even below the ten, because I think that is the
Speaker 1: right side. Betting against Brady after kind of an embarrassing
Speaker 1: loss scares the Jesus out of me. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, again, they're gonna be almost certainly down Godwin.
Speaker 1: I don't really know how good they necessarily are, and
Speaker 1: Brady didn't look that great, so I might be willing
Speaker 1: to roll with that. But it's not a game that I.
Speaker 2: Love, so okay, so let's cross that one off.
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, if we're down to only games I love,
Speaker 1: then we're done. I mean, I think I've got well,
Speaker 1: I've got Arizona like six and a half to Washington,
Speaker 1: So you want to again go through the ones that.
Speaker 2: Are well, yeah, let's do the ones that that you
Speaker 2: just just list the ones that you love here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the games that we're there are only two
Speaker 1: games that I love, which we're we're taking basically, and
Speaker 1: really I don't even love the second one. It's Arizona
Speaker 1: laying six and a half to Washington, which we know
Speaker 1: that's locked in.
Speaker 2: The Cowboy be by the way, that will be a
Speaker 2: consensus top five pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cowboys laying four and a half to the Falcons.
Speaker 1: We've decided we're going to go with.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: After that, it's it's up for debate. Man. Like I
Speaker 1: kind of like the Browns laying the five and a
Speaker 1: half on Thursday Night Football. I know it's the dead number,
Speaker 1: but that's probably a game that I like. I kind
Speaker 1: of like the Vikings getting the three and a half
Speaker 1: from the Colts because I do think that game is
Speaker 1: going to ultimately come down because I think you saw it,
Speaker 1: by the way, with the Colts, is that there's no
Speaker 1: killer instinct, you know, on sort of the team. They
Speaker 1: could have put that game away, and maybe that means
Speaker 1: that they will. But I do think it's the type
Speaker 1: of thing where if Cousin's a good quarterback. They let
Speaker 1: him throw, he's going to you know, move the ball
Speaker 1: like he did at the end of the game against
Speaker 1: the Packers. So that's one I kind of like. I'd
Speaker 1: be okay with the Raiders at five and a half.
Speaker 1: I'd like it better at six, but i'd be okay
Speaker 1: with that. And we're probably not going to do the
Speaker 1: Pats getting the three and a half, so we don't.
Speaker 1: I'd also, by the way, we haven't talked about it
Speaker 1: too much since the beginning, but the Eagles, you know,
Speaker 1: basically pick them. Oh wait, I'm sorry, Matt, I think
Speaker 1: I told you the spread wrong, and so we're probably
Speaker 1: gonna go with this. I think I might have said
Speaker 1: that the Eagles are laying one and a half. Yes
Speaker 1: they are not. They're kind so they are catching when
Speaker 1: it happened what you said?
Speaker 2: Bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, done right? Take it all right? My bad, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I was looking at it very quickly on the way.
Speaker 2: It's good, all right, So that's it.
Speaker 1: We'll lack the one the Eagles.
Speaker 2: There's three, so Arizona, Dallas and Philly are a three
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: So you know you really want to be relying on
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys and the Eagles all the time. That's
Speaker 1: really what you want? Okay, what else you got? What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: So we have four plays that we're talking about now.
Speaker 2: We have Browns, Vikings, Raiders, and Pats.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: So Raiders are at home, which this is their new.
Speaker 1: Stadium Monday Night Football, by the way, Monday.
Speaker 2: Night Football, prime time. I mean, this is a huge
Speaker 2: moment in this city's history. All right, there is insane
Speaker 2: amounts of action. The books here are not going to
Speaker 2: take a single Saints bet the entire weekend. It's going
Speaker 2: to be all Raider money. So by the time the
Speaker 2: game goes off, it may be like a three and
Speaker 2: a half four point line, So there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: big movement in this game. Five and a half is
Speaker 2: really good value. I prefer six obviously, but five and
Speaker 2: a half is. It's good value simply because it gets
Speaker 2: over the field goal and that last that can come
Speaker 2: from behind, you know last, you know, one point three
Speaker 2: to two points up a situation. So I like the
Speaker 2: Raiders because of history and just given what this this market.
Speaker 2: They I'm not saying hockey and football are comparable, they're not.
Speaker 2: But without Michael Thomas, I let's go Raiders supposed five and.
Speaker 1: A half done, And I was writing in it and
Speaker 1: as you were talking, because I heard I heard you
Speaker 1: getting there. And again, yeah, it's just not really a
Speaker 1: spot that I think is great for the Saints. I
Speaker 1: don't really see them going crazy here, So all right,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to take those point. So now we're looking
Speaker 1: at the Vikings plus three and a half, the Pats
Speaker 1: plus three and a half, or the Browns minus five
Speaker 1: and a half, unless you want to go with the
Speaker 1: Panthers getting nine and a half.
Speaker 2: No, let's let's avoid the potential blowout there, okay, And
Speaker 2: and Brady, you know, going back to Brady form and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Scooter becomes a household name.
Speaker 1: All right, So.
Speaker 2: I'm a little afraid of that, just given how I mean,
Speaker 2: Ruggs was opened so much right now that Panthers secondary,
Speaker 2: so I'm a little bit concerned about.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's terrible, it's legitimately and the run defense is
Speaker 1: terrible too, so they could do whatever they want.
Speaker 2: A little concerned about that. So, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it's catching the biggest line, I mean, and you know
Speaker 2: the Tampa's going to run the score up because of
Speaker 2: what happened.
Speaker 1: They want to show off their oh yes, all.
Speaker 2: Their ticket holders, everybody else who are gonna be watching,
Speaker 2: saying look how great we are spent. You spent all
Speaker 2: this money. You can't watch us in person, but we're
Speaker 2: gonna be awesome. So hold on, Brady's a two year contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right.
Speaker 2: So if I had to go with one of those three,
Speaker 2: I probably would take the Vikings plus three and a half.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. That's a game that I liked that.
Speaker 1: You know, again, this is something where I don't know
Speaker 1: who's gonna win game, but I really will be surprised
Speaker 1: if the Colts are able to win it by more
Speaker 1: than a field goal. I like the Colts a lot.
Speaker 1: I think Taylor is better than that's it's you know,
Speaker 1: better that he's going to be getting all the carries now.
Speaker 1: But again, I think I give the Vikings a little
Speaker 1: bit of a pass against the pissed off Rogers and
Speaker 1: in their first game with that secondary trying to really
Speaker 1: learn what they're doing and half communication, they'll get it
Speaker 1: ironed out. Their offense is good. They're going to be
Speaker 1: able to move the ball pretty well. On the Colts.
Speaker 1: I just see this as a close game, and if
Speaker 1: I'm getting the extra half a point there to go
Speaker 1: beyond the field goal, I'll take that. So you know
Speaker 1: that I liked.
Speaker 2: I like the hook there. I just have a very
Speaker 2: strong adversion to Thursday night football games in these In
Speaker 2: these contests, I think the Browns may win and cover.
Speaker 2: I think that's very possible. I think I'll probably bet
Speaker 2: that during on the Daily Juice, I probably have it
Speaker 2: for a play. But I'm concerned just because it's the
Speaker 2: first Thursday night, you know, after a game for these teams,
Speaker 2: so like we don't you know, there's that whole trend
Speaker 2: of ugly football on Thursday. And maybe Joe Burrow is
Speaker 2: the real thing, and maybe Baker Mayfield is gonna stink
Speaker 2: in this offense and Stefansy's gonna have a lot of heat.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at what happened to the coaches the
Speaker 2: last two years. So I'm a little concern on that.
Speaker 2: And then the Patriots, I love the three and a half.
Speaker 2: The hook is a big deal there. I'm just I
Speaker 2: if their defense gives up more than twenty four points,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can keep that game close.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I think they can only score.
Speaker 2: They want to play games like seventeen, fourteen, twenty one,
Speaker 2: seventeen type and if they get loose with a couple
Speaker 2: of you know, a turnover or an extra or a
Speaker 2: special team score or something, it just worries me that
Speaker 2: in Seattle, if it rains, I like the Patriots, I'll
Speaker 2: watch the game. I may bet it for fun, But
Speaker 2: in the contest with how valuable these picks are, I'm
Speaker 2: more comfortable with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: All right, So for now we're gonna lock in Arizona
Speaker 1: link six and a half to Washington. The Cowboys lank
Speaker 1: four and a half to the Falcons, the Eagles lan
Speaker 1: get itching getting one and a half points from the Rams,
Speaker 1: the Raiders getting five and a half points from the Saints,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings getting three and a half points from
Speaker 1: the Cults. I like them, Matt. I feel good about this. Now. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm going to say this again. I do not enter
Speaker 1: these picks until at least Friday, maybe Saturday, once I
Speaker 1: get the final practice reports. I don't want something coming
Speaker 1: out to sort of, you know, go crazy. Follow us
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Dan Harris ady at Sports Talk Matt.
Speaker 1: We will post the picks. We will talk about if
Speaker 1: we're going to be changing anything, so we don't need
Speaker 1: you guys astray, But for now, that's it. Tied for
Speaker 1: seventy sixth place, Matt. We're getting right up there at
Speaker 1: six hundred ninety people or whatever is in it, so
Speaker 1: we're doing okay. Should have been better, should have been
Speaker 1: four and one with the stinking Titans. But it's your kicker, man,
Speaker 1: What can I say about that? All right?
Speaker 2: That's keschy anyway.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it, Matt. Make sure I assume you'll
Speaker 1: post your circup picks at some point.
Speaker 2: Yep, and our Daily Juice picks as well. So what
Speaker 2: picks on Thursday and on Sunday morning?
Speaker 1: Nice nuggets? Bet there, man, I thank you, but that
Speaker 1: one which is something? All right? Everybody subscribed to Daily Juice.
Speaker 1: It's a really, really great listen. Matt gives a daily
Speaker 1: podcast every morning fifteen minutes. We're going to be back
Speaker 1: next week. We'll break down our week three picks and
Speaker 1: we'll recap what went right, hopefully everything, and what went wrong,
Speaker 1: hopefully nothing, and we will talk to you then