WEBVTT - Ep. 72: Crashing Santa’s Slay-fest

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<v Speaker 1>You know here it Bent. We love the children. I

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<v Speaker 1>just really hope none we're listening to that because I

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<v Speaker 1>brought it. You you could have a goddamn monthly stick

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<v Speaker 1>on the shower. You make point first, Apple went in,

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<v Speaker 1>bought all the flies, bought a fly box to put

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<v Speaker 1>him in, went out to the river. Immediately lost the

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<v Speaker 1>fly box and it was one of the cool ones

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<v Speaker 1>with like it was like the aluminum and glass with

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<v Speaker 1>like the windows and ship. Just find someone to get

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<v Speaker 1>out on the mistletoe. Oh my, lady, make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning to januarate anglers, and welcome to Bent the

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<v Speaker 1>Fishing Podcast that Jess wants to say. She falls in

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<v Speaker 1>a well as go cross, she gets kicked by the

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<v Speaker 1>mule and go back to normal. I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Surmelli and I'm hating Samac and I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what that was. Okay, you have to at least

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's from. I saw the title of it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know it's from that, But like I've adding

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<v Speaker 1>to the pantheon of movies that Hayden has not seen.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, uh, you've never seen The Christmas Vacation. To

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<v Speaker 1>have seen the Oh my God, I've never seen any

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<v Speaker 1>of like, I've never I know, there's like family vacation

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<v Speaker 1>and I've never I've never seen him. All right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you might hear something about that anyway, What that was

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<v Speaker 1>I opted out of Clark gris On saying folks, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>marry Christmas at the last second while putting this together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I opted into that because I felt like it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a better line, that's all. Is it the

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<v Speaker 1>anals or the animals? I think it's either way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like tomato tomato. I'm sure. I'm sure listeners are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let me know. Um, I mean, like you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's even if they're listening today anyway, because it's Christmas Eve.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess it kind of gives us a license

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of say whatever we want without a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of constants. Yeah, I think we can be a little

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<v Speaker 1>weirder than normal. Um. And you know what, since Ben started,

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, every major holiday has fallen on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday, like without fail, Like join us next week

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<v Speaker 1>for the Yeah, join us next week for the New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve show, like give me a break, you know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, despite that, we always have a good

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<v Speaker 1>time with holidays. I mean, if nothing else, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with a theme incredibly easy. So that's always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of nice. It is kind of nice. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious thing for me to do right now is to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, uh, these hotday scripts do right themselves? What

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<v Speaker 1>what would be leaving on your tree this year? Joe

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<v Speaker 1>I asked for a new set of drift boat oars,

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<v Speaker 1>which Santa set. He said, that's no problem, but the

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<v Speaker 1>LVC has working at cataract Ores, like I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>say embedded at cataract Ores. They're a little backed up,

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<v Speaker 1>So strong chance my oars won't end up under the

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<v Speaker 1>tree tomorrow morning. Like more like Santa might have to

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<v Speaker 1>swing by with other just before springs shadd season kicks in.

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<v Speaker 1>But how about you, what are you getting this year? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Santa Claus for a used truck topper. Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not gonna make like Santa source materials

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<v Speaker 1>and like the Times of COVID because like that's not cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's it's a little greedy. Um. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what, Santa, I'm formerly offering to go have

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<v Speaker 1>these with you if you could find a used one

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<v Speaker 1>in like the two grand range. Um, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what one better. I'll go look on craigslist and save

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<v Speaker 1>the always the trouble and uh yeah, very low, very

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<v Speaker 1>low lift gift this year. That is so nice, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what a guy helping sand out like that? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, I I bet out there somewhere is

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<v Speaker 1>a Jerry the canoe salesman for truck toppers. I'll bet

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<v Speaker 1>you he exists. Yeah, probably, but instead of like a

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<v Speaker 1>cup of tea, you know, like pound natty ice and

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<v Speaker 1>a shot of yeager and uh and hang out with

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<v Speaker 1>them around like the burn barrel. You know, that could

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<v Speaker 1>be more interesting than the real Jerry. But dude, at

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<v Speaker 1>least doing that it would add an element of excitement

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<v Speaker 1>to receiving you know that gift. Um, I always felt

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sad, you know, like as you get older,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a little bit said. Yes, it's a little said,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what you're getting, right, Like, you get

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<v Speaker 1>what you need, you get less junk, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>what you need. But the magic of sort of losing

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<v Speaker 1>sleep over whether or not something you ask for will

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<v Speaker 1>or will not be under the tree is gone. Um, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, so many specific presents come to mind for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But a big one was the micro machines race in

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<v Speaker 1>a case. The micro machine man here with the perfect crue.

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<v Speaker 1>Micro man want to come in first place? Got the

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<v Speaker 1>electric micro machines racing a case. Open the case to

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<v Speaker 1>start the race, clucking into play. It set up that way.

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<v Speaker 1>He great, your micro machines road great and stick the

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<v Speaker 1>track of both the world race past the barking like

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<v Speaker 1>Superstar Jerry at the point you're talking to carry away

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<v Speaker 1>the fun. Check out the carazing example, screw cars on

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<v Speaker 1>the micro machines around micro Machines racing the case and

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<v Speaker 1>bower Row competition race sts. He sold separately with two

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<v Speaker 1>road race and vehicles, power packs and controllers from Galube.

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<v Speaker 1>And I got it, but it kind of sucked, like

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<v Speaker 1>the cars didn't really stay on the track. It was

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<v Speaker 1>not that easy to pack back up into the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was still thrilled to have it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was a big one. Yeah. See,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't remember specific toys like that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>more whatever like I was obsessed with at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>like fishing or you know, hunting or where have you. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like when I was a kid, kid

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<v Speaker 1>I was really into Pokemon cards. Like um you were.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have been as enthralled by the micro machine commercials,

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<v Speaker 1>is I was about these kinds of commercials to be

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<v Speaker 1>the old man Pokemon master draggy. I think I am

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<v Speaker 1>the Bookemon game. You'll do awesome activities, wipes and meet

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<v Speaker 1>new friends. A speak in your journey could become a

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<v Speaker 1>Pokemon methods right there. See wow, Mancie, I had no idea, like,

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<v Speaker 1>have you and Phil bonded over this? Because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he could ever fire you. Isn't that some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Pokemon warrior code? I I this is all news

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I think, other than working in Meteor, this

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<v Speaker 1>might be the only thing that Phil and I have

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<v Speaker 1>ever had in common. Um, although you know, and my

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<v Speaker 1>my Pokemon days are a little bit behind me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being a kid and they were like ten

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<v Speaker 1>packs of Pokemon cards in my stocking one year, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went just like ape shit because it was never

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I wasn't from Like, it wasn't like when

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted something as a kid, I just got it

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<v Speaker 1>in spades, you know, if I if I begged enough

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<v Speaker 1>for it, like he got one pack of Pokemon cards. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, and every now and again it was

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<v Speaker 1>a special thing. Um, but he on Pokemon cards. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's gonna dry Phil just in nuts when I

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<v Speaker 1>when Phil, this is for you man. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>in first grade, so I traded a holographic first edition

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<v Speaker 1>Chancey for two just regular as Pika Choose because the

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<v Speaker 1>show had led me to believe that Pikachu was the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing that there could possibly be. So you know

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. And I'm sure you're greating your teeth

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Um, he's gonna call you into his office

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<v Speaker 1>like with a little like buzz, like, Hayden can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of my office? Please? Thanks? He was like, what the um?

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<v Speaker 1>But thinking back on like a president, that really blew

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<v Speaker 1>my mind was I got a Crossman pellet gun. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a full on campaign involved. Did I snuck bb

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<v Speaker 1>gun onto my list every year? And I never actually

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<v Speaker 1>got one from Santa But my my grandfather used to

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<v Speaker 1>snap up everyone he saw at flea market, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had a whole arsenal at his place. Anyway, we certainly

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<v Speaker 1>hope you find what you want under the tree tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps there will even be a few goodies from our sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteen fishing. Um, if you were really good, like really

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<v Speaker 1>really good, maybe you'll even find the Black Betty Freefall

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<v Speaker 1>Carbon tenth Anniversary Trick Shop Edition ice reel. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen that one? I know you have, Dude, I ache

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<v Speaker 1>for one of those, Man, I ache for one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like this, like brilliant gold. It shines like a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand sons. It's like the Excalibur of the ice fishing world.

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<v Speaker 1>That exactly. It kicks so much, ass man. Yeah, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very bold. It's either excalibur like the real O

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<v Speaker 1>d B would use. Um, but despite it being a

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<v Speaker 1>bold statement piece, it's also highly functional. I probably should

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<v Speaker 1>have asked Santa for one. You know, it's never too late,

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<v Speaker 1>man Um. You might get a chance in a very

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<v Speaker 1>special edition of our Upid Fire Q and a segment

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<v Speaker 1>covering water. I'm going in. I can hold it all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now, Joe, a couple of weeks ago, I set

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<v Speaker 1>up kind of a cool interview about the issues on

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<v Speaker 1>the Madison River and we both thought it went like

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<v Speaker 1>we both thought it went really well. Death I mean

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool. I'm just kidding. It was great. It

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Okay, Well for this installment of covering water.

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<v Speaker 1>I've kind of set up something a little extra special,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm oh, I'm really excited. Today we're joined by

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<v Speaker 1>a very remote guest all the way from the North Pole.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, boys and girls, we're here with the one

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<v Speaker 1>and only Santa Claus. What's you're okay? Man? I'm fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas? Oh right? Um? Like I said, we're here

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<v Speaker 1>with Santa and Joe. You said a certain someone might

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<v Speaker 1>want to say hi. Yeah, I was gonna. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask can my three year old say hi? Real quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Okay? That perfect? His name is? I know

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<v Speaker 1>what his name is? Right? Okay? Great? Hey, but come

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<v Speaker 1>me here for one second. If somebody I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to meet. Look who it is, Jamie? Who's that? Santa

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<v Speaker 1>rights so sleepy, he's real tired for making all the toys.

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<v Speaker 1>But kids know Santa's got a buzz on erge, what

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<v Speaker 1>a buzz? Actually? But what can you go downstairs? Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you go downstairs for a little while? Okay, thanks buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, really, you guys just want to take

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<v Speaker 1>it from the top real quick. Yeah. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys noticed, but it's Christmas Eve. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>do the interview. Okay, so Hayden brought you in because

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out you're you're quite the avid angler. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're normally the one who asks this, but Santa,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want for Christmas? Man? Well, Nick wants

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<v Speaker 1>is a trip to St. Bart's and some time off.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, as soon as I get

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<v Speaker 1>done dropping off all this ship tonight, old Sandy Claus

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<v Speaker 1>is going to take a well deserved trip for some

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<v Speaker 1>billfits just me and Brandy. I mean, this is Claus.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna chase some bone fish while you're down there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I I hear it right there. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>the whole fly fishing for bone fish thing. That one

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<v Speaker 1>of those snot nosed twenty year old Instagram influencers womby

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<v Speaker 1>guys completely turned me off to that ship. Yeah well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that can that could be tough, um, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good reminder for our listeners. Always make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're booking it a really reputable guy, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? You know, their kids had the audacity to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that if I had a Helios three like him,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'd be able to get out ten more feet

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<v Speaker 1>of line and actually make a shot. Mother. The only

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<v Speaker 1>reason you have a human three is because I brought

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<v Speaker 1>it to you. You couldn't afford a gut damn monthly

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<v Speaker 1>stick on the shower you make pulling tourists around the apicle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see how that that might be. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what else, all of you stop asking for

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<v Speaker 1>fancy ass setups for Christmas? Do you know how many

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<v Speaker 1>cease of assist orders I get from Saint Croix? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know how many elves I've lost a graphite dustin

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<v Speaker 1>resent fumes? Do you know how many times I had

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<v Speaker 1>to take comfinitely time slay ride to avoid osha a lot? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it, Um, Maybe maybe we should just move on here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just let's just all take a breath while I

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<v Speaker 1>explain exactly how covering water works. So this is our

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<v Speaker 1>rapid fire Q and a segment of ben. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>what Hayden and I are gonna do is gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes on the clock and we are just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pepper you with questions. And the whole idea here is

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't really have any time to answer. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't think too hard. You just have to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>answer as quickly as you can. And what we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of this we promise um is to

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<v Speaker 1>give you one minute to expand or explain more about

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you think was the most damning answer. And and

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<v Speaker 1>based on how this has gone so far, I I

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<v Speaker 1>would I would expect that there's going to be some

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<v Speaker 1>damning answers. So does that all sound good? Sannah? I'm okay, perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>We put two minutes on the clock here, Heyden, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask first, right, all right, let's see how this

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<v Speaker 1>goes and begin milk or cookies? What species of fish

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<v Speaker 1>is on your bucket list? How is that? How's that possible? Look?

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<v Speaker 1>I live in a magic group where all things are possible,

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<v Speaker 1>you idiot. But the permit is in all your years

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<v Speaker 1>of doing this, which lure has ended up in stockings

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<v Speaker 1>more than any other? I mean, it was a dirty

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<v Speaker 1>devil spoon for almost eighty years until some beside make

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<v Speaker 1>a crank bait that looks like a Budweiser kid. All right, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>favorite reindeer. I don't know yet. What what do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean you don't know yet? CWD man. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>new crew this year. They all got in c W.

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<v Speaker 1>D and died. No, it turns out was just blitz

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to test them all though. Whatever freezer

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<v Speaker 1>spul Holy shit, everyone is so consumed with clean energy,

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<v Speaker 1>yet you still rely heavily on cole Can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>us why you're kidding? Right? Really, that's your ethics question,

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<v Speaker 1>not the hundreds of years of forced the elephant labor. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I got an endless supply of call up there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you switch and putting hyper allergenic crystals or some ship

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<v Speaker 1>in the stockings of the kids that were asking Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the cost of goods grows up? All right? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the one place you've always wanted to visit? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you fighting with me? I am literally going everywhere tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>What what your favorite fish eat? That's easy. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of Mah Dolphin like Flipper Dolphin. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Santa hates dolphins. Everybody, My man, who's the naughtiest angler

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<v Speaker 1>on your list this year? Ginger kids? You pay all

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<v Speaker 1>around with Ross robertson. What's your favorite lure of all time? Cricket?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we're running out of time here, best

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<v Speaker 1>gift you've ever got? Well, there's one of your Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Frost and the heat and miser got together and got

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<v Speaker 1>me this huge cake. Right they lift in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the workshop. Now I'm about to cut into it

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<v Speaker 1>and boom, Candy pops out. And I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Jolly Ranchers. I'm talking about Candy, one of the North

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<v Speaker 1>Pole dancers. Off alright, everyone, Uh, Santa Claus, Joe, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to wrap this up? And yeah, Santa, I, I I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're busy and I think you have to get going.

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<v Speaker 1>But fair is fair. You are supposed to have one

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<v Speaker 1>minute to expand on on any one of your answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you want to tell us a little bit more. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just tell you a little bit more about Candy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know here it bent. We love the children. I

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<v Speaker 1>just really hope none we're listening to that, because you'll, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have three hundred kids at the mall next Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>asking Santa for Budweiser, crank baits and Michigan crickets. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. We might have We might have

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<v Speaker 1>done a disservice to the youth there. Yeah, in case. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some listeners are extraordinarily ethical folks and have

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<v Speaker 1>never surrounded themselves with this type of company. A Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>cricket is a gigantic like weighted treble hook. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>an egg sink refused onto a treble hook, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>used to uh to snag fish. Now you can do

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<v Speaker 1>that like legally for like paddlefish, but most us of

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<v Speaker 1>the time you hear it talked about. It's in the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Lake salmon scene. Yeah, that's right, no offense Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did once I did want to see a

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania conservation officer pull about fifteen of those out of

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<v Speaker 1>his glove box and he'd collected them along Elk and

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<v Speaker 1>Walnut Creek in just a couple of days, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like, I was like, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's that many. Pretty crazy, um, But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of snagging, let's see who snagged the better fishing

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<v Speaker 1>related story in this week's fish News. Fish News that

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<v Speaker 1>escalated quickly. Alright, so real quick question for you, have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever gotten allure or some flies for Christmas? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you stare at them all winter because you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's winter so you can't run out to use

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<v Speaker 1>the new hula popper. And then the first time you

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<v Speaker 1>ever get them out of the water, you lose them, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you a story. Man. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>love my long winded stories. Uh. I do something more uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of analogous to that is the Edison Show. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you can go there and you get a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of flies for like show. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I just got sick of being burned on not

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<v Speaker 1>having super small flies. So I went there one time

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<v Speaker 1>with like two bucks in my pocket. I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get all the midges. I'm gonna get all

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<v Speaker 1>like the little tiny baits. I'm gonna get all that

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<v Speaker 1>ship just taking care of right now. Went in, but

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<v Speaker 1>all the flies. Bought a fly box to put him in,

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<v Speaker 1>went out to the river, immediately lost the fly box.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you lost the entire bod, entire thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the cool ones with like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the aluminum and glass with like the windows

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<v Speaker 1>and ship the little flip the switch English switch stream

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<v Speaker 1>style stuff jacket ye switchblade and stream same thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a specific lore or fly story, but it

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me um in another in another capacity with

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<v Speaker 1>a remote control boat, like I got one of those

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<v Speaker 1>for Christmas. Neither of these are actually related to the question. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I started with the question They're not really it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was told by my dad not to touch

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<v Speaker 1>it until spring, and he would take me out and

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<v Speaker 1>show me how to use it. Did I listen? No?

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<v Speaker 1>And I sunk it. No. It was a really sweet

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<v Speaker 1>like chriscraft sport fisher and it went around you hit

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<v Speaker 1>an iceberg. No, it literally, I ship you not. It

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<v Speaker 1>just went around in one circle. The bow dipped and

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<v Speaker 1>it literally just drove itself underwater. And then I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it underwater, still driving, spiraled down. It was a bad

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<v Speaker 1>deal anyway. Here's why I started. What is why I

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<v Speaker 1>brought up lost lures because if you happen to need

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<v Speaker 1>a break from your family over the holidays, just quick

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<v Speaker 1>note that the final episode of the Canadian Angle with

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<v Speaker 1>j Siemens drops today on meat Eater's YouTube channel. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's what he does. He don's full Scooba gear, He

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<v Speaker 1>goes diving on Lake of the Woods for lost lures,

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<v Speaker 1>refurbishes them, and then uses your misfortune to score himself

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<v Speaker 1>an epic muskie to close it, like you you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see it right, And I thought the whole premise was

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<v Speaker 1>extremely clever the way he did that. Yeah, man, that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's badass, man. I grew up fishing lake

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<v Speaker 1>wall in paw Pack a bunch. And let's say it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hydroelectric dam. Is like, you know the reason for

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<v Speaker 1>this lake being here, so the water level changes like constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>And where I lived, there was this shoal that went

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<v Speaker 1>straight out along this weed bed, and every summer around,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, August is when they would drop the

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<v Speaker 1>lake the lowest you could go out on that shoal.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to picking up like pretty fresh props, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean some of them were dinged up. Occasionally you can

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<v Speaker 1>find like a nice clean prop. You would find all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of lures and cool crank baits and ship just

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<v Speaker 1>going all the way. People that's their hobby, man, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just what they barely fish to just pick up lures.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I thought that was really neat. You should

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<v Speaker 1>watch that. Let's get on with the news here. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try and keep it light and perhaps Festivus. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know I've gone Festivus, but I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>you've gone. Because this is a competition and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know which story the other dude grabbed and at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>jolly old sat Philip of the audious Engineericus Mountains will

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<v Speaker 1>declare a winner and it is your lead this week,

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<v Speaker 1>my man, So have at it. Oh right, man. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's not super festive. It's not festive. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not festivus, is it? No? No, unless you can consider,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the destruction of one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>important fisheries in the world a festive occasion. That what

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<v Speaker 1>fishery are we talking about? All right? So, so recently

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<v Speaker 1>it was recommended that there be a four fifth reduction

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<v Speaker 1>on the cod catch in one of the two primary

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<v Speaker 1>New England cod fisheries. Can you can blame the Italians

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<v Speaker 1>seven fishes back a lot, man, it's pretty much all

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<v Speaker 1>the Italian's fault. Yeah, man, so uh, darn Italians. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very Italian. Please don't at me. On on December tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>the New England Fishery Management Council decided on a quota

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<v Speaker 1>of five hundred and forty thousand pounds um. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is of you know, Atlantic cod, down from a previous

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<v Speaker 1>quota of two point four million pounds. So again, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>four fifth reduction. The reduction would be for the George's Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>Um the other primary Atlantic cod fishery that way, the

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<v Speaker 1>Gulf of Maine will see the quota, Uh, stay you

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<v Speaker 1>know stable from last year. I believe it's five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety thousand pounds. Now. Look, reductions like this in

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<v Speaker 1>the economic short term suck. But this kind of management

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<v Speaker 1>really is essential for long term conservation goals. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>to contextualize that, we can look back on a little

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<v Speaker 1>history of New England's cod fishery to understand why. And Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pass this to you in a second. It's

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<v Speaker 1>quite a history. Like yeah, it's yeah, so everybody likes cod.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a white, firm, flaky fish. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, it's not fishing. Everybody likes it, man, the

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<v Speaker 1>same reason everybody likes Yeah, the same reason everybody likes

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But which is like always been kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a funny thing to me. It's like upper echelon

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<v Speaker 1>of edible fishes. They're defining like characteristic people be like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not fishy at all. Man, you're right. But see,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't rip on that too much because

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<v Speaker 1>we've said, I've said a bunch of times on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to like you and I are

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<v Speaker 1>not fans of overly fishy fish. No man, no man.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason that when I get like sushi and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a sushi like chef's assortment or like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dinner where it's like, you know, ten pieces or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, hey, can you substitute the mackerel for like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to say anything else, please assort the mackerel

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<v Speaker 1>off of the sushi platter than yah. Yeah. Um so.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was a resource that was hugely important. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been important in the context of history. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the dude who wrote the book Salt has that book cod.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, there's a lot of meat on that bone. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was. It was a hugely valuable resource for

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<v Speaker 1>not only in the indigenous folks of America, but for

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<v Speaker 1>early settlers as well. Now fast forward to the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>century and super efficient commercial processing, you know, on boats,

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<v Speaker 1>coupled with more efficient fishing techniques, the fishery became over fished.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, you know a lot more about that

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<v Speaker 1>particular history than I do. Yeah, I mean I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>done some cod fishing out of Montauk back in the day. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and Barber just caught a surprise cod. Well, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, so, yeah, Eric, what would you say? His

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<v Speaker 1>last name was Garber, Curber, leave it in, leave it

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<v Speaker 1>in Curber. I'm gonna go, is this erring after we

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<v Speaker 1>go fishing with him? I don't know, Maybe so bad?

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay? Uh yeah, man, Eric Cerber, my boy Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>he recently it was it was a very big cod

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<v Speaker 1>for Jersey and it was very close in shore. Because

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking, he wasn't like way off shore. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've done some of this out of mom talk. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a time when the Jersey boats were advertising

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<v Speaker 1>cod trips again, but it was kind of bullshit. Like

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<v Speaker 1>basically what that meant was, we'll take you out to

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<v Speaker 1>the lying grounds and probably two or three codd will

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<v Speaker 1>end up on somebody's line, you know, but to say

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>we're going out to target them and we could spend

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>hours on this. But the bottom line is, like cod

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was such an important fish throughout the Northeast recreationally for

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>so many years. I mean, the party boats made their money,

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the recreational captains. I remember reading articles in the archives

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the field and stream like in the dead of winter

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>when the stripers were all gone. Dudes on cape cod

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and surf fish for pound cod

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 1>like in the waves on cape cod. Um. And I've

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.679
<v Speaker 1>had some good cod fishing. But the consensus that you

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 1>talked to any old heads, it's like this is nothing

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>crap like this. You know. It's like if you want

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to if your dream was to catch a forty pound cod,

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that is extremely hard to do anymore, you know, right right.

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>So so back in the day, like in ninth We're

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.199
<v Speaker 1>gonna go to nineteen seventy six real quick. In nineteen

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 1>seventies six, the Magnuson Act, And this is what contributed

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of like the pressure and a lot

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of like the commercial over fishing. In nineteen seventy six,

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the Magnuson Act. UH. It prohibited foreign operations from fishing

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>within the Exclusive Economic Zone of the United States. UH

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the easy right, and the easy includes all fisheries within

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>two hundred miles of the U. S. Coast. Now you

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>would think that that would do you know, that would

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>alleviate the pressure. Well, yes, and no, I mean sure

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>from like foreign commercial fleets eliminated all that pressure unilaterally. UM.

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>But because folks got so excited about like the lack

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of you know, international competition, the U S Fleet expanded

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in the pressure on the resource within that two hundred

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>mile like buffer zone intensified. Yeah, it's it's a it's

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a very like you're it's so back in the day.

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a thing called the cod or has

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 1>been raging forever. But yeah, back in the day, like

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you'd have Russian boats on Georgia's bank, like from you know,

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:07.399
<v Speaker 1>it was insane, but you're right, that's exactly what happened.

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>They got all them out, and everybody's like, well now,

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>my mid my, my mind, my mind. And it was

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>such an economic driver that that's exactly what happened. We

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>we overfished them, We got them out and overfished in ourselves,

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>you know. Right. So since then, or maybe not since then,

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>but you know, within the wake of that act um

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 1>in the last forty years or so, the decline UH

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>intake has been sort of like precipitous. To contextualize that,

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen eighties, right, annual catches typically topped a

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred million pounds of common and then after a crashing,

0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, the nineties, not not so much. Um. Now,

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of these conservation stories. Man, they're

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>like so doom and gloom that I feel like it

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>gets people unenthusiastic about good changes that are being made,

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>even if they're difficult changes. Right. Some people like the

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>react and is oh, well, like I'll never go do

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that because it's just so messed up. Some people throw

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>their hands up and say, well, if it's this messed

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>up already, why not make hay and while the sun

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>shines yaum. But there is good news uh per noah um.

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>In the Gulf of Maine fishery, a tenuere rebuilding plan

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>has been implemented for this stock and the stock is

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>targeted to rebuild by twenty four golf main, as I

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>understand it, they have the best thing going, Like, that's

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 1>the best cod fishery in the Northeast right now is

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>in the Gulf Main. Yeah, and this has been the

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.239
<v Speaker 1>second you know, this is the second rebuilding plan for

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>this stock. So, I mean it's something that you know,

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>folks have had their eye on and they've been trying

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to you know, perpetuate the resource now with continued careful management.

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Back to what we're talking about, which is this you

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>know four five quota slash on George's bank. The George's

0:28:55.000 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>bank stock is scheduled to rebuild by So a lot

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of these like management programs people have like the idea

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>of like, okay, we'll implement these cuts that like is

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>no there are no fun for anybody, and then we'll

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>see what happens. You know, it's important to remember that,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, similar to like, uh, you know, the other

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>week we covered you know, the macinaw in the Flathead Lake. YEP.

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>There are defined conservation goals attached to these plans, and

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>when these plans are successful and that goal is met,

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you got something a lot better than that resource that

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>wasn't doing so well before these plans were implemented. So,

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, take your medicine and weal come out with

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a better thing. Um. You know. Another interesting like kind

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of thing to note is kind of how we consume

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>fish in the effect that it has on fisheries. UM.

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>For instance, speaking of like you know, to keep it

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>on cod, a shift to the more stable and economical

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>polock has taken a lot of pressure off the cod fisheries. Uh.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>To contextualize that McDonald's fish filet was cod now pollock.

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. Well, maybe I was not aware that McDonald's

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>filet of fish was ever truly caught. I thought it

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>was cod from Alaska, but that's neither here nor there. Um.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. The funny thing is I haven't had a

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>piece of cod in probably ten years, and the last

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>time I ate it, I caught it. Because if I

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>see it in a fish market, it's usually too expensive,

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and if I see it on a menu, I just

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 1>don't ever believe that it's cod because I know so

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>much about the cod fishery. I'm like, really, this is

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks a pound in the fish market, but I

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>can have the all I can eat cod fish and chips.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I doubt it. But the truth is there's nothing wrong

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>with pollock. It always gets downplayed like that's not as good.

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Pollock is delicious, and there's a lot more of them,

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. Do you know what the fish filet was

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>even before cod? This is the second switch? Do you

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>know what the fish filet was made with? Originally? I don't,

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna take a wild stab dog fish. No. No,

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>The first thing that the McDonald's fish filet was made

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>of was actually hell of it. Oh oh, and then

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>they got Yeah, that makes a lot of Well, here's

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>one final note on on cod. You know, everybody's like,

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, fresh cod. There's nothing like fresh cod.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>You ask anybody who's ever caught a cod. Ever, it

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>is extremely rare to catch one that is not riddled

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>with worms. Almost every cod is full of worms. Now

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>they're big worms, and you can there's a method to

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>get them out. They'll crawl right out. But still, I'll

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>never forget the first time I ever went cod fish

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.959
<v Speaker 1>and put them in a brine. I actually wrap them

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>in a paper towel, and a lot of times they'll

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>just come out on their own in the fridge. Yeah,

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a there's a few different ways. But I

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>remember I caught a pile of it off Mont Talk.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>My my wife, who was just my girlfriend at the time,

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>was living in New York City, and I brought all

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>this cod to her apartment and the girl should live

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>with I was like, I am making you ladies fresh CODs.

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Tonight busted out the flats and it was just like

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>freaking orange worms everywhere, and it was a total turn off.

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't bother me, but a lot of people, if

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>they knew like even if you buy fancy cod, that

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 1>ship had worms in it before it got to you, guarantee.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of unexpected and surprisingly brightly colored, man, I know

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you've seen this a bunch of I'm sort of familiar

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>with it, but I don't understand the nuances of it.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Every now and again you will see an electric blue

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>cod down to the color of the filet. Do you

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>know what? But you know I've seen that. I don't

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>know what causes it though, I don't know if it's

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>if it's diet or what. But I mean, I imagine

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that pigmentation has to be somewhat similar to like how

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>don't ling mouths on the West Coast like during certain phases.

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't. I'm I'm making ship up. I

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know why that happens. But I have seen that before.

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>There's also bright blue lobsters. That's a real prize thing

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>up there, See, listeners, we don't know everything. We don't.

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were gonna I thought I was gonna

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>tee you up and you're gonna hit it out of

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the park, man, I was, I thought, I don't. I

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about a blue cod. Man, I don't

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>know that's what that ship is whacked. How about let's

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's let's say I'm gonna get a little

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>more festive and I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna this is

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a little more uplifting, I guess, um, and just just

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a little more festive in general. And um, I'm gonna

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>have to uh kick it back to Santa Claus here.

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 1>So I know, we just talked to Santa and he

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>had told us he wanted to go bill fishing somewhere.

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>But but he must not have gotten the memo yet

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>because it's apparently already been determined where he'll be fishing

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>on December. And here's how it was determined. Berkeley Fishing

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>teamed up with Santa for quite the contest, and here's

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the gist in Santa's own voice, via Berkeley's website. I

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>love to fish. I've been fishing all around the world,

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and this year I thought I'd try to find someplace

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:09.720
<v Speaker 1>new and exciting. So I asked my friends at Berkeley

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Fishing if they could help me find the location that

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>is the best fishing spot, and they said that they

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.680
<v Speaker 1>would love to do that. Santa sounds different in that

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't sound like he's like kindler, gentler, more cohering,

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. Anyway, Yeah, let you let you exactly um anyway. Naturally,

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm always intrigued when like the best fishing towns or

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>trout towns or striper towns or whatever are ranked, right,

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and this style of clickbait journalism is it's like rampant.

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Now you can find a list of the of the

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>five best cities for anything these days, like five best

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>cities for people who love socks, best places to later

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 1>if you hate pet stores, you know whatever. Anyways, what

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Berkeley did was that they put out a call for

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>town submissions. That was step one, and they told me

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 1>they received more than forty town nominations from they whittled yeah, yeah, yes,

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>but still forty okay um. From those, they whittled down

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the list to the following five locations where Santa could

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 1>end up. So these were the choices. Heartwell, Georgia, which

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>is home of Heartwell Lake and that's a pretty epic

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>bass fishery Huntsville, Alabama. That's also some killer bass fishing

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and crappy fishing down there. Springfield, Illinois and which honestly,

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>nothing is jumping out at me regarding famed fisheries in Springfield.

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's okay because, as we'll learn, um, these towns

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>weren't just chosen based on having a big time local fishery.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>There were other reasons for the decision. Other choices last

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to Long Beach, California, which is on the coast just

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>south of l A. And finally Panama City Beach, Florida.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>So the next phase of the contest was that they

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>asked people to vote on one of those five location

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>on Santa Arsanta definitely would have gone to Panama City. Yeah,

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a that's a party town, right, it's

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>party town. Um. And and so you vote and Santa

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>will will roll into whichever town wins on December. Um.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>And it turns out here is where Santa is actually going.

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Long Beach, California scored the most votes, which doesn't totally

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>rule out bill Fish for old st Nick Like it's

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 1>it's a long run, but Swordfish qualifies, right, he can

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 1>fly can fly his slay over to Catalina with the

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>eight wide and dance with a broad bill. Um. Anyway, there,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>there's there's more to the picture than just Santa showing

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>up to Fish. As I mentioned, there's um more than

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>than just the fishery involved in these locations. So Berkeley

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>is donating up to twenty five thousand dollars to the

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>winning community and that can be used for anything fishing

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>related that they want. So um. The locations were also

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>very much tied to community needs. That money can be

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>used for conservation right or to promote fishing in the area.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>So um, it's all for killer calls a matter of fact.

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>On the website, they explained that these specific organizations that

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>would benefit in each location, and here's what it said.

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>For Long Beach, a vote for Long Beach, California will

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>help El Dorado Regional Park purchase specific items related to

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>fishing and conservation education about the lake and wilderness. Additionally,

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>prize money will be used to help purchase items to

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>help preserve wildlife throughout the park. So that's pretty damn cool.

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Man Like, that's just all around cool um cool contest.

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Sana is also showing up with mountains and mountains of

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>tackle in gear Um and Berkeley. If he's late or something,

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously we have a direct line to him as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll give him a kick

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in the rs if need be. But I thought that

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>was great. That's a really cool contest. Yeah, man, I

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>mean so many of these events are not only do

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>they they kind of like highlight you know, certain fisheries

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and like are they're sure they're good for content, right,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like you know you're gonna go out there and you're

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna have a good time fishing or whatever.

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 1>But I really love it when they tie in like

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>all that conservation and bring attention to like a region

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>that you might not think of as as somewhere that

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>there is like some significant like fishing to be you know,

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>either improved from a public image standpoint or from a

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>constitution standpoint exactly exactly. And I think that's what's so

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>so cool about what they've done here. Initially you look

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>at that list and you're like, oh, I understand this spot,

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>understand this spot. Wait why here? But then if you

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>really read further into the specific reason that those five

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>were chosen, they're all very good reasons that would have

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>benefited um a lot of local anglers. So props for that.

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And now I guess we'll we'll kick it over to

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<v Speaker 1>Phil for his Christmas Eve judgment. Hey Phil, what's what's

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Santa bringing you? We'd love to know. And then as

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>soon as Phil finishes explaining it to all of us

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>non gamers, we've got a lovely, heartwarming Hallmark Channel ready

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas message from our dear friend river Horse. So for

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas this year, I asked Santa for an uplifting and

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>topical fish news story, and only one of you brought

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that to me this week. Joseph Mellie, you're the winner.

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And Hayden, I'm not too upset with you for trading

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>your holographic chancy for those two common Pikachu cards. You

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>know why because I was the guy that made that

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 1>trade with you all those years ago. Great a sucker,

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for patting my kids college savings account. Merry Christmas. Hey, Now,

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>this is river Horse with some sagely wisdom coming to

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you from the far North Arctic Circle in Swedish lap Plan,

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>where all of the reindeer on this earth originated from.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm on a little winter adventure with this mid try.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it cold, you ask, my lord, Let's just say

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>this place is set to chill. Speaking of all things chill,

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 1>perhaps this holiday season finds you cut up in this

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>sometimes bizarre Gonzo and beautiful hurricane of extended family hooplah

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>with all the loosens of making a living to navigate,

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>which for something can be a wee bit overwhelming. Oh

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you just be it, no mine, Just calm your soul.

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Late at night, after everyone else falls asleep, you just

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>quietly slip on out the back door, take a deep breath,

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>look up at the shimmering stars, and remember how lucky

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>we are to be here. There are millions of miles

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>of rivers, lakes and oceans with fish out there waiting

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>for you. As for me, I'm about to put a

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 1>kettle of snow water over this birch wood fire and

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:09.720
<v Speaker 1>brew up some hot chocolate. Always say yes to whip

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>cream on top. Baby. Then I'll curl up on this

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>forest floor of pine needles in a sub zero down

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>sleeping bag and dream away of ten pound bass, all

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>lips and hips. Here's to you, my brothers and sisters.

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I will see you along the path in I believe

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in you. You got this, And remember you don't always

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>have to find the catch up a lifetime. Just find

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>someone and get on under the mistletoe, and oh, my lordy,

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>make it happen. River Hoards is genuinely the only dude

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I know who can go from like an uplifting holiday

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>message to like straight up sensual in the span of

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>three words. No, dude, I know, and that's that's why

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we love the guy. Like you come away from that

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>like did I even hang mistiletoe? Because I need to

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>get on that ship right now. Anyway, before we sign off,

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>We've got an end of the line that I'm particularly

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 1>excited about. Okay, So last Christmas, I did one on

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>the Panther Martin spinner and talked about how I used

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to get them every Christmas from my uncle. And I

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>ended that by saying the story I was telling about

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the panther and how near and dear it was to

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>my heart could easily be told similarly by someone else

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that grew up throwing an entirely different brand of spinner,

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>And wouldn't you know it, our own Hayden Samak is

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that different someone? Well, that's not loud enough. My earliest

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>memories are mostly fishing small streams with my dad and

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>my brother and my grandpa. We might have been fishing

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>for you know, Sonny's stockers or small news, but one

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>thing remained constant at the end of our lines always

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a Swiss swing. Now, a Swiss swing is an inline

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 1>spinner with a brass bead body in silver, gold or

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>copper color, blade and bossed with scales and the words

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Swiss swing. My brother and I grew up fishing them

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>almost exclusively. I assumed everyone knew what a Swiss swing was,

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and I carry that assumption with me right up to

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the point that I sat down to write this long

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>story short. I couldn't find any information on the spinner.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find out who manufactured him, let alone how

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>they were developed. It became clear that if I wanted

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to know more about this spinner, I was going to

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>have to look somewhere else. So I started researching a

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>similar but apparently more well known spinner called the Cpie

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Swing in the Pantheon of great spinners, the Cpece Swing

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>is a cult classic, but oddly not much information exists

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>on the history of this spinner either. So I went

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>down yet another rabbit hole, which took me all the

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>way to the advent of inline spinner itself. It was

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>French engineer Andre Milnar who developed and patented the first

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>in line spinners. Eventually, a guy named Todd Sheldon started

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>selling them in the US, and in ye bought Millner's

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>company outright. That company was and is still known as Maps.

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Now this is not a story about maps, but Maps specifically.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>The Maps Shimmy might have played an important role in

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the development of the CP Swing. If we look at

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Milnar's original patent for the Maps Shimmy next to an

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>image of the Cpiece Swing, you will notice that the

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Cpece Swing bears a striking resemblance to Milnar's drawings. As

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I've said before, a history of the Cpece Swing is

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>hard to come by, and this might be the reason

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>for that. Comparing the two, I think it would be

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>fair to assume that the Cpece Swing was in fact

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>a knockoff of Milnar's original design for the METS Shimmy.

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>The fact that genuine CP swings are advertised as made

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in France also points to this as a possibility. Perhaps

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 1>this is why a detailed history of the popular lure

0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 1>is so hard to come by. The CP Swing is

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>probably a knockoff of an early map, and to that end,

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:14.760
<v Speaker 1>we're nearly done unpacking a very unofficial and speculative history

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.919
<v Speaker 1>of the Swiss Swing. Now I want to add one

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>thing in here. I noticed that in the forums and

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:25.760
<v Speaker 1>online classifieds I was researching, many folks discussing and advertising

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Swiss swings are based in the Northeast, and the majority

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.919
<v Speaker 1>are located in my home state of Pennsylvania. This could

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>be the final piece of the puzzle. Listeners, together we

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>may have solved the mystery of why I know these

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 1>inline spinners as Swiss Swings. It seems one of the

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>talismans of my childhood is in fact a regional knockoff

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>of a knockoff made in some factory somewhere by someone,

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>though no one can tell you exactly who. Again, I

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.359
<v Speaker 1>amt all of this is wildly speculative. If you know

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 1>something I don't write me. I'd be glad to hear

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>from someone who knows better than I. But to be

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>honest with you, the lack of definitive origin has quickly

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>become one of my favorite things about this familiar little spinner,

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>because in trying to uncover that origin, I've found the

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>story of the Swiss swing is written entirely by those

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>who use it. I want to end with something else

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I discovered in my research a surprising and shared sentimentality

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of the Swiss Swing. Folks wrote, oh Man that spinner

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>caught an absolute ton of Smalley's for Dad and I

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>in Cayuga, that back in the day, it's the only

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>spinner we used on trout, and they killed him. There

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.879
<v Speaker 1>were dozens of anecdotes just like this, penned by all

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>sorts of fishermen, and most of them framed a little

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 1>spinner as a treasured part of their past. It seems

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not alone in my fondness and nostalgia for

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the Swiss Swing, and that speaks to a paradox I've

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>noticed within these more sentimental aspects of fishing, there are

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>certain things that fishermen will experience that are at once

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 1>deeply personal and somehow ubiquitous. Perhaps that's why, as fisherman,

0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 1>we're able to meet a stranger on a river bank

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and within minutes know them. Did you grow up fishing

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>a lure no one else seems to know about? Shoot

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.439
<v Speaker 1>us a note at Bent at the Meat eater dot

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>com and tell us what personal favorite was at the

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>end of your line. So that's it for the Christmas

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Eve version of Bent. We hope all of you have

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful time with your friends and family, full of

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 1>holiday cheer, copious amounts of eggnog, and plenty of glazed

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>ham My friends. You know I got hammered once on eggnog,

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>and I really really don't recommend it. If you thought

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.359
<v Speaker 1>a white Russian hangover is grossy, the whole a mother thing.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeahs are slightly thicker than the Russian. Slightly, it's heavy.

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:45.160
<v Speaker 1>It's more of a simping drink, I've come to learn.

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>But what I do recommend is sending a bar nomination,

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>awkward photo, sale, bin item, newspiece, or question to Bent

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>at the meat eat dot com. You know I can

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 1>speak for Joe I say this we love hearing from

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you guys. Yeah, I can also speak for myself to

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.439
<v Speaker 1>and say we sure we surely do. Also keep using

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>those degenerate Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on the gram

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 1>perhaps tag a fishy something Santa left you, and from

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of our degenerate hearts, wells books, books, Merry Christmas.