1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is seventeen point six. Gene, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to and I won't another edition of the Around 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is presented by No One. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined in the 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: What's up boys? Hey Dan? And if you know why 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: we're presented by No One west because no one's listening, Well, 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope not. I hope people are listening. 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: How about remember the old old They'll make Greg and 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: we're beholding to no one exactly. That's how you you 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: turn lemons into lemonade. We're be holding to about seven 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: different people right now. We are so beholden. There's like 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: seven layers of holding. We are max beholding, We're beholding 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: to uh. This is the Wednesday edition of the Around 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. I hope everyone is caught up on 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: the uh on the old docket because we had the 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Sunday Week twelve recap show on Sunday late Sunday night 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: that went up on Tuesday. We had our live Twitter show, 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: which you know, I think we're doing a nice job 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: with I think we're having fun. Oh yeah, with Reggie 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: and Connie. If you if you need your Connie fix, 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: that's where you go to get it. Connie on Skype 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: from her apartment in West l A. I won't say 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: exactly where it is, but here's the address. Fourteen Maple Boulevard, 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Apartment six C, not three. Is a real place that 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: that's not where she lives in Santa Monica. You could 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: just mean, Greg, there is the there is the option 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: to play along with Dan's there. I won't do it 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: doesn't check out for me. Incorrect. Um. Anyway, So we 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: got Connie, we got Reggie. We have fun on that show. 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: And here's the Wednesday show. What's coming up today? How 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: about a little T and F preview? I like that, Greg. 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: It's a good It's a good one this week. Saints 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys to first place teams Thursday Football. They you know, 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: they went into a little bit of a slump there, uh, 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: And I got a feeling they're gonna close strong with 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: some good games, including well, can we talk ourselves into 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: this being a good game? We will see. We're gonna 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: talk about it later in the show. Also, the trade 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: deadline was a month ago tomorrow something like that is 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: about a month ago of October and tomorrow is what 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: the it binds up? Just so, what if? What if 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: you extended the trade deadline by one month? That's what 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: we did in our in our imaginations. And we're gonna 45 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: go around the horn a couple of times and throw 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: out some um extended trade deadline offers or as you 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: called it, West trade lifeline. Very nice. I learned a 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: few things from this exercise. Oh good, Okay, we'll get 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: into that too. But before any of that, last time, 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: let's get let's get caught up and do some news. 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Let's do please. As of two eighteen, this NFC North 52 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: team had never even made the Super Bowl, much less 53 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: one it. But by gotta happen, right, Jay? Who are 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions? Yes? I mean, by the way the 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Bunsen burner blowtorts the Lions. Trebeck on the Lions, I 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: kind of like that. I will say that on television. 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't notice this as much. But his voice I 58 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: cannot take him seriously. He sounds like some sort of 59 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: like elegant, like pampered prints from like deep Europe. It's funny. 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I find it incredibly soothing and for my entire life 61 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I have until that moment. If that sounded incredibly pretentious, 62 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: I have been rolling through old Jeopardy episodes on Netflix, 63 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: which is a great addition by the social, the streaming giant. 64 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: I love it. But Alex Trebeck is not a human. 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: He is very awkward in his interactions with other humans. 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: What about like a road trip with Alex Trebeck and 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: Roberts Stack. I kind of, you know, I think I 68 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: think what you're saying, but I mean when they were alive, 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: it checks out. You know. I don't want to paint 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: paint too broad and brush if if any you know 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: hosts out there are listening, but I think there there's 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: a there's some type of hosts like a game show 73 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: host off and you know it's just missing, like a 74 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: little humanity chip I would agree little about thirty five 75 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: years now. They have to try to make up for 76 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: that by connecting through the people in the teles. Their 77 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: similarity with stand up comedians, I think a different type 78 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: of a different type of ft up. Yeah, that's different 79 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: and not fun facts. I believe Jeopardy tapes right down 80 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: the street. That's Sony. So there you go. Let's get 81 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: to the news. So if we ever want to confront 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: axtra back about his lack of humanity. Good jeopardy, uh, 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: Reuben Foster, let me take a hard left turn um 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: to the dark side here. Ruben Foster the former forty 85 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Honors linebacker who was released by the team or sent 86 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: to waivers by the team after his third arrest, another 87 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: domestic violence issue. So the Niners put him on waivers 88 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: and one team claims him. And there was a little 89 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: mystery at first on Tuesday about which team it was, 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: and then it came out that it was the Washington 91 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: Redskins who make the claim. Uh, Foster, who has this 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: criminal issue hanging over him, will not be able to 93 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: get on the field, either because he's not permitted or 94 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: to practice or playing games for the Redskins because the 95 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: NFL has placed him on the Reserve Commissioner Exempt list. 96 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: Do you remember that while the league reviews his arrest, uh, 97 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: Greg Redskins were the only team And I think a 98 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: lot of people were surprised and frankly a little disappointed. 99 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: This is how it played out. Very surprised just because 100 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: of the timing and because of the acrobatics that it 101 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: took for them to justify it. Through their statement. You know, 102 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: this is a team that also y Junior Galet after 103 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: um some of the probably worst off field behavior that 104 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: any players had in recent NFL history, and they were 105 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: quick to sign him. And I like, whip a guy 106 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: on the beach. I mean that that was a part 107 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, that was the least of his But 108 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: but similarly, you know, four years ago they made a 109 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: statement saying they condone domestic violence when it had to 110 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: do with players on another team. And and just kind 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: of the hoops that Doug Williams. I almost felt bad 112 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: for Doug Williams, who was the man named, you know, 113 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: the executive named in the statement that the Redskins had 114 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: to make trying to justify it, trying to say he's 115 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: going to have to go through all these steps before 116 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: he gets on the field. And that also they consulted 117 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot of Reuben Foster's teammates from Alabama who happened 118 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: to be on the Redskins roster. It's like, okay, so 119 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: you're you're asking his college buddies to be character references. 120 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: What what do you expect him to say? It has 121 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: a very Bruce Allen feel to it. Who is you know, pulling, 122 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: pulling the levers in Washington still and maybe mean Doug 123 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: Williams out there as the mouthpiece. I grow your own talent. 124 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: I just don't know why this is a move that 125 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: could be perceived by the Redskins as they were cooking 126 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: this up as anything other than, you know, a PR 127 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: disaster waiting to happen, and this this is not. There's 128 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: two separate parts of this. It's obviously, uh, the the 129 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: upsetting realities of what's going on Foster off the football field, 130 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: but it's also a little surprising. I know he's a 131 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: first round talent, but he did nothing for the Niners 132 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: this year. If this guy was some type of stud, 133 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 1: if it was like a situation like with Alden Smith 134 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: when it's a top rate pass rusher, you could see 135 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: why one team would kind of go through those acrobatics 136 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: and make this movement and eat the PR hit. But 137 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: Foster has not shown anything this year. Was well, there's 138 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: no question he can play. He was really impressive last year. Uh, 139 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: he was a little bit behind the eight ball this 140 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: year and then came in and lost his position to 141 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: Fred Warner Um who was really impressive in September. For 142 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: he can play and to me, the Redskins can't be 143 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: expecting him to play this year. He's on the commissioner's 144 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: exemp list. Even when they made the claim they have 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: two good starting inside linebackers so he wasn't gonna play. 146 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: To me, it just seemed like they figured someone else 147 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: was gonna claim him. If anybody's gonna have him on 148 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the roster for future, if he ever straightens himself out, 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: it might as well be us. But even then you 150 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself is it worth it? Well, and 151 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: just that there they they say they fully understand the severity, 152 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: but that that sort of at odds with with claiming 153 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: him because and because I've heard the argument, well, you know, 154 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: does this mean he can never you know, work again? 155 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Does this mean uh that if the Chargers are eventually dropped, 156 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: that he shouldn't be in the league. It's like, well, 157 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: if you want to see how it plays out, like, 158 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: let that happen. You don't need to employ him in 159 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: the meantime, you can, you can let that go out. 160 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: There was a report that the Eagles did called Tampa 161 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: police and investigated themselves. They didn't put any claim on it. 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: It sounds like there was nothing that the Redskins have 163 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: done other than waiting for the legal process to check out. 164 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Let's move on. The Jacksonville Jaguars are making changes during 165 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: a deeply disappointing season in Duval. That's a thing. Blake 166 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: Bortles is headed to the bench. Doug Maron announced Monday 167 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: that the veteran passer is UH on the sideline, will 168 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: be on the sideline in week thirteen. It will be 169 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Cody Kessler UH playing UH quarterback for the Jags, who 170 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: have lost every single week UH dating like about two months, 171 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: dating back about two months now. The switch comes after 172 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: the Jags lost to the Bills UH seven straight losses. 173 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: They they were expected to compete for a Super Bowl. 174 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen this year. And in addition to 175 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: the decision West to lose Bordles and send him to 176 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: the bench, Nathaniel Hackett, UH, the offensive coordinator, also sent packing. 177 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a long fall for a team 178 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: that came close last year. I get with SCAPEGOATD. He 179 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: drew up some impressive game plans last year, specifically against 180 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers and Patriots in the playoffs, very impressive game plans, 181 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: and things weren't going this well, this year, I understand. 182 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: But you know all these people who say, who look 183 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: at Blake bordles numbers and say they're very similar to 184 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: last year, save it you are not watching Jaguars games, 185 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: and that's a deck giveaway. The guy's throwing motion, which 186 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: has been varying degrees of awful throughout his career, right 187 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: now is just broken. It is more pronounced, the hitchen 188 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: is wind up, and he cannot make simple throws. The 189 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: game he had against the Bills. When I watched that, 190 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I just thought that the Jaguars have to pull this guy. 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: They cannot keep playing it because the other fifty two 192 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: guys on the roster see a quarterback who can't play 193 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: at an NFL level. Right now, I think I think 194 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: though that you know and I and I've mentioned the 195 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: numbers are similar. It just reminds me of that's exactly 196 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: what we were saying at this point last year about Bordles. 197 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: If you remember, he kind of went on a late 198 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: season streak in December where he played some of his 199 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: best football, but just before that we were having this 200 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: exact same conversation that his mechanics are totally out of 201 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: he's totally ruining the team, they need to bench him 202 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: at a very similar time of the year. And then 203 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: that gets back to Tom Coughlin, who I want to 204 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: thank for signing Borders to this contract and you know, 205 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: expecting Borders to become a player that he hasn't been 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: for the last five years, and hamstringing this team because 207 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna deliver me some sandwiches, because I said, they're 208 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: not making the playoffs and you guys are gonna hand 209 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: them over and and it's crazy to me to waste 210 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: really the last three years, I would say two thousand, sixteen, 211 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen after you should have been able to 212 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: self scout and make a better decision on boards. Well, 213 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: part of the part of it is you have the 214 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: general manager still in house who used a third overall 215 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: pick on boardles, and I think there was this let's 216 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: not give up right away on him, and it got 217 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: I think the worst thing that can happen sometimes is 218 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: when a bad player overperforms from what they really are, 219 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: which had happened to him in the playoffs, and it 220 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: gave them this idea that we can maximize Blake Borders. 221 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: But for me, if you're Nathaniel Hackett or any coordinator 222 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: attached to a bad quarterback. You have to be wondering 223 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: when this day is going to come. I mean this 224 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: to me makes no sense to fire him. Well then 225 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: you right now we made a good point to that 226 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: you can't tell what was wrong if you fire the 227 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: coordinator and the quarterback. But this is this tells me 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: that Doug Marone is under fire inside the building because 229 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: this is one of his most loyal lieutenants. They were 230 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: together for years in Syracuse. Doug Marones helped grow his 231 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: career and turn him into an offensive coordinator in college, 232 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: brought him along to Buffalo, brought him to Jacksonville. It's 233 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: not unlike one of us working together for ten years, 234 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: if there was some sort of power structure and sending 235 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: someone out when when trouble gets that hard. I mean, 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: this is a friend and someone that he whose career. 237 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: That's the message tam Posey needs to be, you know, 238 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: operating at high levels at all times. One thing I 239 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: would say, if you're trying to get inside the jaguar 240 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: he has, but he has the arm strength, has the 241 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: mobility to be a star quarterback. If you can fix him, 242 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: then you've got your answer. So I can see why 243 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: the lead was long. To me, what's indefensible is never 244 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: bringing in legitimate competition when you've told the other fifty 245 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: two players on the roster you gotta compete. I've been 246 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: there five years, and but it's amazing how that one 247 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: bad decision taking him and and then unlike I think 248 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: good organizations who would have cut bait earlier, can infect 249 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: everything that's happened since. The only reason Doug Maron is 250 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: the head coach right now is because he made Blake 251 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: Bortles look better in a mirage of a two game 252 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: streak at the end of two thousand sixteen, Maron and 253 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: Hackett basically convinced ownership that hey, look, we we had 254 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: these two games with him, Let's let's stay with Bordles, 255 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: stay with us, and now they there's two years later 256 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: and they still don't have a quarterback. Hackett, who was 257 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: shocked by the way he didn't think this was coming. 258 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: He did a fine job. When Maron wanted to meet 259 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: with him, he thought it was about the quarterback change, 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: and he was stunned. And his quote to Ian Rappaport, 261 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: they had a conversation. I guess the football gods had 262 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: it out for me. Uh, so hack it will land 263 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: on his feet. We'll see what happens with Bordles. But 264 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: changes coming in Jacksonville. Uh. More quarterback news in the 265 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: a f C, another disappointing season for Andy Dalton has 266 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: come to an end, shortened by an injury. Uh. The 267 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: quarterback of the Glowing Ginger Man Uh is heading to 268 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: injured reserve because of a right thumb injury suffered in 269 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: Sunday's loss to the Browns. It's the same thumb that 270 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: really sent Dalton's career, the injury that sent Dalton's career 271 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: in a different direction. It feels like forever ago. But 272 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: when the Bengals are ten and two and back in 273 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: and they were cruising and looked like they were gonna 274 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: get a by he breaks his thumb, it was cure. 275 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: It was pure Bengals luck, Uh, and he his season 276 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: ended and they really have never been a team since then. 277 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: So he heads to the sideline for the season and UH, 278 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: is there any chance West that that's the last time 279 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: you see Andy Dalton playing quarterback for the Bengals. Someone 280 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: asked me that yesterday on Twitter, and in my response 281 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: was I out it, because what's the alternative? I don't 282 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: think Jeff Driscoll. I mean, I liked watching Jeff Driscoll 283 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: play in garbage time. He's he's somewhat more fun than 284 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton because he's really mobile and he probably has 285 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: a stronger arm. But he threw a lot of passes 286 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: up for grabs that will get intercepted. To me, Jeff 287 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: Driscoll doesn't seem like a viable option. And unless you 288 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: have someone in house, how are you gonna let Andy 289 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: Dalton go his two non guaranteed years left on that 290 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: six year exten To me, that's a positive, though I've 291 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: seen people kind of conflating or you know, mentioning Bordles 292 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: and Dalton in the same breath. Bortles is contract is toxic. 293 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: They owe him six and a half million dollars guaranteed 294 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: next year. They're gonna eat one of the biggest dead 295 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: money um totals in NFL history if they release Bordles Dalton. 296 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: On the other hands worth, he's do sixteen million, not 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: a dollar in guaranteed money, no signing bonus. Still, the 298 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: payoff sixteen million dollars seems like a nice price in 299 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen for Andy Daltons. Andy Dalton's a fine 300 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: and about quarterback. That's why he's the Dalton scale. And 301 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: in the middle, it all depends who's there next year, 302 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: because if it's if it's Marvin Lewis and it's everyone's 303 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: surrounding Marvin Lewis. There have been there's been evidence and 304 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: in reasons to move on from Andy Dalton and get 305 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: him competition and a competition, and they've done literally nothing 306 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: on that. I would guarantee if the Bengals don't want 307 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: to pay Andy Dalton sixteen million next year, it's several 308 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: teams will want to. M uh And by the way, 309 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: it's called Dalton they find NFL quarterback. I think it's 310 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: it's important how you stress that he's fine. He's fine. 311 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: He's not like a fine quarterback, but fine, it's very important. 312 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: But fine quarterbacks get more than sixteen million dollars, right. 313 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: I liked the value at this point. They they signed 314 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: him to a six year contract, which at the time 315 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: people probably if we listen back to our podcast, we 316 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: might have we might have raised their eyebrows at that 317 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: the money. And now it looks like a little forward thinking. 318 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: They're they're ahead of the game in terms of quarters 319 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: one the whole thing on Dalton. I do think in 320 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of years what he's done with in 321 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: terms of him being fine. I don't think he's super 322 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: attractive fine, I mean, but there's an aspect of his 323 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: attractiveness that's upticked in the real in the last couple 324 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: of years. He's done something with his hair. He's kind 325 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: of shorn in the sides a little, and he looks 326 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: kind of bizarre but kind of tough. I don't know. 327 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: He kind of looks like like, oh no, well that's 328 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: different too. That's fine. Fine. Finally, in the news, uh, 329 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: the a a F, which is the Alliance of American 330 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Football UM, held its draft for its inaugural two thousand 331 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: nineteen season. I wasn't aware of this is a thing 332 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: until Mark on our on our Uh, what is a 333 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: conversation client direct messaging? Yeah at three one am. Yeah, 334 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: Mark sending ideas for the show at three thirty, which 335 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: on one hand looks like, oh man, this is On 336 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: another hand, it sounds like a major medical issue that 337 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: you're dealing with. I have like the worst insomnia, literally 338 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: probably four out of seven days a week. Do you 339 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: ever have you ever tried to I guess this is 340 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: a conversation maybe for not on the podcast, Well why 341 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: go why say? Why prevent that? And you tried to 342 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: treat it? Have you tried to treat it in any 343 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: different you know? No, I'm just saying it. I have 344 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: tried it. Maybe you know nothing, maybe not. According to 345 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: the medical science, they do say that people some people 346 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: have sleep patterns where because I'll fall asleep at like 347 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: eleven and wake up at two in the morning and 348 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: be up until five and then sleep till five until 349 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: serious similar to we can two blocks of you ever 350 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: tried this illicit drug use? Yeah, that sounds weird. Explain 351 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: what Dan was attempting to mimic putting a syringe on 352 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: his I did nothing of the sort. Actually, you could 353 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: take this sound wherever you want. I couldn't help you 354 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: go to sleep? I see why do we Why does 355 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: this always happen to me on this show? Just the 356 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: a f draft um allocated thirty two quarterback? What a 357 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: what a setup thing got going on here? Allocated thirty 358 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: two quarter This is from Kevin Seafort, ESPN. This is 359 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: my source here uh thirty two quarterbacks on Tuesday Night 360 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: and includes former uh NFL pastors such as Scott Tolzine 361 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: for him. Uh, Zach Mettenberger, you remember old net Oh yeah, 362 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: and remember when Mark wrote a letter asking for him 363 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: to come be Len Brown's Yeah. Now now he's been 364 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: taken by the Memphis Express, so he's working his way there. 365 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: And uh, finally, uh, we can't really say this name, 366 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: but this player was also taken. I think we blasted 367 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: that name out of the podcast. We decided that we 368 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: weren't going to mention it. Yeah, yeah, no, let's stick 369 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: to that rule. But that person was also taken. The 370 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: league begins play on February nine, which I believe is 371 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: one week after the Super Bowl. Greg, Yeah, no, I'm 372 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: really like, okay, we're all having our fun. It's like 373 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: kind of some names we haven't heard in a while, 374 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: like Mettenberger and joshtown. Now. I'm really excited to see 375 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: how the Atlanta Legends coaching staff, led by Brad Childress 376 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: as the head and Michael Vick as the offensive coordinator, 377 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: works with Justin Holman, Peter Pouhas, Matt Sims, and uh, 378 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Murray at quarterback. I think that's an interesting quarterback 379 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: room and an interesting offensive mine with vic as the coordinator, 380 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: Like mart Is on board here. They have some names. 381 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: There are literal names. Yes, I mean it's I I 382 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: remember the World League and thought it was fun and 383 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: NFL Europe and all that stuff, and you know, it's 384 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: not the worst thing to have if the if there's 385 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: people in there that you've heard, I've invested some emotional 386 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: and in time, you know, energy into some of these 387 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: leagues that have popped up over the years. Has been 388 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: about four or five of them, but they never lasts 389 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: a year or two, so it's tough to really One 390 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: thing on their site of like tickets is seventy five dollars, 391 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: I think you might. You're not going to get a 392 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: lot of people to pay seventy five dollars games. That's 393 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: what it says on this I will say one thing 394 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: that because when I was I got the secondary market. 395 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: Guys they're like their Twitter feed is it sounds like 396 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: some of the people that are employed by you know, 397 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: NFL and just very exuberant about themselves and like that. 398 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: Some of these tweets got on my on my on 399 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: my radar, I was like one of the most it's 400 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: the fourth round, everybody hold up before fourth quarter finished? Strong, 401 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: We're making history. Here, it's like and then and then 402 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: well then the up no no, But then the up 403 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: shot was they were trying to get everyone and log 404 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: on to watch this um streaming quarterback draft, but it 405 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: was couched away on some app that no one could 406 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: have had access too. So they were like every response 407 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: to every one of these braggadocious tweets was loved to 408 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: be a part of this. Can access the actual history 409 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: making segment here with your drafting Scotts Tolzen in France, 410 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: so a f social media team on Mark's radar. Where 411 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: sold are? Yeah, I've got I don't know if they're 412 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: cracking the top ten lists there, but there I want 413 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: to see like some winners and losers, some grades. I 414 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: think I think they got Quinn mcquerie in the third 415 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: round the Arizona hot Shots pretty value the Arizona hot set. 416 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: People thought he wouldn't go until until that, he'd go 417 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: earlier around one or two. No, they got him. They 418 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: also they did the thing where this you know this 419 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: is the mind sound like population. I just want to 420 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: sound like sensors, by the way, but go on, well, 421 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: but more than usual, I'm gonna give them. I'll give 422 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: them a chance. They have to. They had. They did 423 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: the Miami heating where they have to two team names, 424 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: San Diego Fleet in Birmingham Iron and what they can 425 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: do like the the Fleet. I believe it was protected 426 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: Josh Johnson, who has been on the compion teams because 427 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: he played college in that area. You're allowed to protect 428 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: the local hero to be on your team. Well, that's 429 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: how most of these league started. Territorial picks, you know, 430 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: like the old Cincinnati Royals in the NBA got Oscar 431 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: Robertson because he played for university. Gave any publicity. Dan's 432 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: good publicity. We're talking about it. I'm we're gonna watch. 433 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna watch this entire no more about it now. 434 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: And I did a book report on the state of 435 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Utah in night, so I will support the Salt Lake Stallions. 436 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: It will be my team. That's what's happening deep roots 437 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: there for in the news. I actually I remember to 438 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 1: this day. It was a brilliant move by an eight 439 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: year old old Zeuser. Young Zeuser at the time. Um 440 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: it had the report had to be I think like 441 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: six pages. So I did a little arts and crafts 442 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: and I, uh, you know, the general shape of the 443 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: state of Utah. I cut the loose leaf into the 444 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: state shape and presented that, which cut down on the 445 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: size of the page, which made less less writing also 446 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: had a visual effect to it that led to I 447 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: believe a high mark six pages for an eight year 448 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: olds a lot district in the town of friendly people. 449 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: They were definitely not getting six year old reports and 450 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: five panamonic districts. All right, let's move on. Okay, so 451 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: trade deadline last month. UH, we're doing our own trade 452 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: ladline deadline here because the trade deadline is too soon. 453 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: They got to change that rule, and hopefully maybe they will. 454 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: For now, we're going to live in the world of 455 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: uh fantasy and UH offer some deals or propose some trades. 456 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: That makes sense right now, because let's face it, it's 457 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: a very different landscape in the NFL on November than 458 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: it was on oct Um. Mark get us going, all right, 459 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: I I feel like there's a team before the trade 460 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: deadline that kind of put up signals that they were 461 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: willing to sell almost anyone but not this player. But 462 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: now this is happening in my reality. The Indianapolis Cults 463 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: send a first round and second round pick. They have 464 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: two second rounders after that deal with the Jets and 465 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: rounder to the New York Giants in exchange for Odell Beckham. Wow, 466 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: why would the Giants trade Beckham? They just gave him 467 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: a giant new contract. I get that. I get that. 468 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: There's all these factions probably in the Giants fandom too. 469 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: They would say this would never happen, and they just 470 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: ice them up. I just don't see this relationship as 471 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: a long term success for the Giants. And uh but 472 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: but maybe more it's wish casting that the cults could 473 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: go and add someone for Andrew Luck to throw to. 474 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: You just want West to not be able to stand 475 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: up right now. That's what you're going for right now. 476 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: That's I mean. Odell Beckham's name was was in trade 477 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: talks all off season and not the deal they got 478 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: the deal. Don Finally, I don't feel like an enormous 479 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: price for for a sever at least just compared to 480 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: what the market value has been. I don't. I don't 481 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: think it'd be a crazy because Odell Beckham is that good. 482 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Can I hear those terms again? The terms were, and 483 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, and I have to like I I will 484 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: say that if I had skills around the world of football, 485 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: like trade terms or maybe not in the top five, 486 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: but um first rounder, second rounder and under that's reasonable 487 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: and for that kind of talent, that's reasonable. And the 488 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: Coolts have the Jet second round pick this year, I believe, right, 489 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: so they would still have their second round picks one. 490 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, I got me my quarterback, so I'm cool 491 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: with it, all right, Uh okay, I mean it's fun, 492 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: it's a It would be a lot of fun to 493 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: see Andrew Luck with the best wide receiver tandem in 494 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: the league potentially. I just think the Giants probably look 495 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: at their setup and like this is the last year. 496 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: But if we do figure out the quarterback position in 497 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the draft, and we improve our offensive line, we're gonna 498 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: score thirty five points a game with O'Dell s Quan, 499 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback who can play, and why would we trade 500 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: that away? And he's also the most popular player. My 501 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: one art, here's my one argument. Because the Giants, and 502 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: we've learned this from teams that finished with the fourth 503 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: or fifth pick, you don't get that quarterback. You don't 504 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: and there aren't There aren't seven quarterbacks in this draft 505 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: from what little we know now, that could change that. 506 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: If you add this ammunition, you can make the move 507 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: to get up and get the quarterback. And yes to 508 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: the expense of a wide receiver, but wide receivers can 509 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: be found. I mean, I I know he's not. I 510 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: know he's not. That's why the costs would be very high. 511 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: You would probably go to the file if you got 512 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: a quarterback, you would have to go into the following 513 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: draft to find someone that's half as good as Odell Becka. 514 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: I just I don't know why the Giants would do that. 515 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: I just look at the cults and say, I know, 516 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton's having a nice year, but in general, 517 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: the cults are thriving on offense without a lot of 518 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: stars around. Andrew luck Wes, what do you got? Can 519 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: I tell you my two takeaways that I learned from 520 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: this assignment? What's that one? I think we assumed that 521 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: more teams would be willing to trade guys away and 522 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't get that sense at all. Like teams 523 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: like the Browns and Broncos are back in it. Seahawks 524 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: are are probably in better shape now than they were 525 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: a month ago. I think there's several teams like that. 526 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: And the teams that were bad are just still bad. 527 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: So there's a few. There's a few. I think the 528 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: Jags could be one. The Bucks maybe have given up 529 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: on staying in it. But you're right. I also think 530 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: the teams that would be the most aggressive are the 531 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: ones and two seats, the teams that just need one 532 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: more thing to put them over the top. Versions the 533 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: other good teams and the teams that are on the 534 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: would probably be a little more more reluctant to give 535 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: anything away, like especially like a team like the Chiefs, 536 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: when you have holes potentially to to fill. Uh, my trade. 537 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: You know, I've been resistant to put Larry Fitzgerald in 538 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: any trades because he's sort of an institution in Arizona. 539 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: Came down on hard on me when we did this exercise, 540 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: I know, which is why why I I put a 541 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: high standard. I really have to. You have to sell 542 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: this to Larry Fitzgerald. How about returning to his college 543 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: city Pittsburgh. The Steelers need a third receiver and have 544 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: all year because James Washington has not played up to 545 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: his ability, has not come in. We saw against the 546 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Broncos he had a couple of plays, including a play 547 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: where he dove for a ball that he could have 548 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: scored standing up if he would have just ran and 549 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: caught the ball, gave him grief about it that he deserves. 550 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: He has the right to criticize James Washington at this point. 551 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, if he stays in Arizona, he's not gonna 552 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: want any part of this rebuilding project. He's probably just 553 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna retire. I think. So he's got like six more games, 554 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: five more games left, we go. We America wants to 555 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: see Larry Fitzgerald in the playoffs one more time, and 556 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: I think he might even be able to sell him 557 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: on play another year and you got two playoff runs 558 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: in you and then going back to Arizona the very 559 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: same James Washington a second round pick who's got talent, 560 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals need wide receivers. So James Washington for 561 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald straight up? Wow? I like that, straight up. 562 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it. I feel bad enough coming back 563 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals legend conditional fourth round picks. I feel 564 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: like the Cardinals would take a huge pr hit on that, right. 565 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: What's yeah? We almost like, what's the what's the point? 566 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: The Cardinals also have a big problem. What are you 567 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: gonna do with your wide receiver room? Next? Year, because 568 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: it's maybe the worst in the league. We're throwing you 569 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: a second round pick. I mean, you might have Larry 570 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald as a solid contributor next year and the best 571 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: player in franchise history, but he's he's a shadow of 572 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: For myself, I don't know if the bid wills Zona. 573 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: Mark's really cracking up. I don't know if h if 574 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: you offer Juju for Fitzgerald, I don't know if the 575 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals would pull the trigger. Really somebody I would take 576 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster, But that's not what it's about. It's 577 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: it's great. I agree with you that that this is 578 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: about a legend and keeping him in town. But somebody's 579 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: got to build a wide receiver room for the Arizona 580 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals next year. All right, I'll throw another wide receiver, 581 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: not at the level of Larry Fitzgerald to the four 582 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: people in this room, but to the person behind the glass. 583 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: It's someone that shines and towers above Fitzgerald and anyone 584 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: else that's ever played the position, really has played sports. Period. 585 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: Uh what are the Dolphins? What are they right now? 586 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: At five and six? Their playoff hopes pretty much shot, 587 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: and as things stand right now, the Dolphins are neither 588 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: a win now team or really a win tomorrow team. 589 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: That feels like the last twenty years in my right, 590 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: they I mean, they just exist. Okay, it's time to 591 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: pick a lane. And uh, this is not something that's 592 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: going to to put them on the path to getting 593 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: back to the super Bowl. But Dolphins trade Danny playoff 594 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: a Mandola back to the Pats for a fifth rounder. 595 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why this makes sense, because, first 596 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: of all, Amadel has zero future in Miami. I know 597 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: he loves it down there. He's getting he's getting busy 598 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: pool side, being a philanderer. And I know you're happy 599 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: about that. Can you be a philander if you're not married? 600 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: Not really? Is there evidence of oh there's direct evidence 601 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: on his girlfriend, the supermodel. It's all I know about it. 602 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: That's beside the point anyway. Uh, he's thirty three years old, 603 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: he's in the first year of a two year, twelve 604 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: million dollar deal. He's do six million nineteen. Yes, the 605 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: Patriots walked away from Amdola essentially after the last year, 606 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: but uh, that was a different time. Now they're they're 607 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: thinking to themselves, we are as win now as we 608 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: have ever been. We decided to go to Tommy Boy, 609 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: who might even be in decline right now. Uh we 610 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: need a guy that literally his nickname was Danny playoff 611 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Amund Dola given to him by Gronk. And you have 612 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: Philip dor Set there who has not made an impact. 613 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: In fact, they've really decreased his snaps and I don't know, Um, 614 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if that means that they're they're changing 615 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: that how they're running their offense. Greg, maybe you can 616 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: help me out with that. But they have Josh Gordon, 617 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: they have Edelman, they have Gronk. I feel like am 618 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: and Dola could carve out a role there and make 619 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: an impact, assuming he's healthy. He's got a knee issue now, 620 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: but let's keep that out of the mix. So anyway, No, 621 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm serious, but I don't know if it's a serious 622 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: issue or not. Uh So there you go Amadal back 623 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: to the back to the paths and they could decide 624 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: if they want to eat the six million or keep 625 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: him around. Next to the one thing, they're the they're 626 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: the one team. Belichick feels like the one guy that 627 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have an issue. Sometimes when the player leaves a team, 628 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: you know they're they're never gonna ever come back to 629 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: that team, you know, la Garrett Blunt goes to Pittsburgh, 630 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: totally melts down. You know, weeks later he's back in 631 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: New England. Like Belichick doesn't have a problem bringing back. 632 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: They would have happily had Damn and Danny Amendola back 633 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: if he took a pick up for the seventh straight year. 634 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: Poor Danny. You know, that's the thing that they want 635 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: his contrast night, I'm just saying that he has, but 636 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: he's been He's up there in terms of underpaid players 637 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: of the last five years or so. He you know, 638 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: those uh those bar tabs that uh live don't pay 639 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: for themselves. Yeah, I mean, you don't want your your 640 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: girlfriend making that much more money than you. He had 641 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: to go take the money. Doesn't make sense as a 642 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: as a Dolphins, I don't see. I don't see why 643 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins would want to help out the team in 644 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: their own division. Mike tannin bomb and what because they're 645 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: nor there they just I guess, but it would just 646 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: be it would not be annoying. I think if there, 647 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: if there was a pink pony situation going on, and 648 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm starting to buy this, you know this theory that 649 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: Mark has been selling that other, investigating, not investigating that other. 650 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's operatives out there. I think it would 651 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: make a lot more sense for his old buddy Matt 652 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: Patricia to send him Ziggy Anza in the last month 653 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: of his contract for like a fourth round pick, because 654 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: Patriots love sending these fourth or fifth round picks. They 655 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: get a little negotiating window to talk to Antsa at 656 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the end of next year. He's starting to He hasn't 657 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: played very well this year, but he has looked healthy 658 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. What are the Lions doing? 659 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: They they're a team that's kind of fallen out of it, 660 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: and Antsa could actually give you some juice here in 661 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: the last month. If we're gonna have a little pink 662 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: pony action ride that, I'm saying, ride that pony, let's 663 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: lean into it this time. It's time is ending. You know, 664 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: you don't even need to pony. I mean Tom Brady's 665 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: forty one. Let's just let's maximize what we got. You 666 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: guys are saying every the walls are crumbling here. Yeah, 667 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: they're an eight and three team that's in the top. 668 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: They're one of the six or seven best teams in 669 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: the league like, that's another year, let's go for it. 670 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: But I think next year this time, and I don't 671 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: know if I am and Dola doesn't get me too excited. 672 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: It'd be nice to have him though. It'd be nice 673 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: to have him in the mix. He is playoff Danny. 674 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: I think he would make it bigger impact on the 675 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: Patriots and a playoff run they could use. They could 676 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: use a pass rusher pretty badly. They could use some 677 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: more depth up front. What is it? How excited would 678 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: you be ada came back to the Paths? I would 679 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: I don't even know what I would do. I would 680 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: probably add on and not the trade part, just because 681 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know Miami. But it's easy to imagine like 682 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: him or Legarrett Blunt, just like coming back from having 683 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the a f C title game. Totally 684 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: can see it all right, one more time around the horn. Okay, 685 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: this is a deal that would be done in secret 686 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: on right before the deadline. There is a team in 687 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland looking for a leader. There is a coach out 688 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: there who would be a perfect fit for Baker Mayfield, 689 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: a coach with a shot to win one more Super 690 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: Bowl before exiting stage right at the ideal time, a 691 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: coach you can work with general manager John Dorsey, so 692 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: not a power hungry guy that also needs to be 693 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: the GM. A guy that can work with the general manager. 694 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: We've seen him do that in New Orleans with a 695 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: general manager that runs multiple proteins, totally absurd. And a 696 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: coach who has gone to his own ownership and said 697 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: he's open to this deal because he's always had a 698 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a wandering eye for other jobs around 699 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: the league. Which is Cleveland sending two first round picks 700 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: this year and next to the New Orleans Saints for 701 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Deal effective the minute the Saints season raps. 702 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: So it's effective because I was gonna say, if he 703 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: if he's looking to get another title, No, no, no, 704 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: deal he does A deal has done crew in New 705 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: Orleans this year that might have a chance. Deal can't 706 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: be done in March with the new league year has 707 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: to be salted away before the deadline. And at Cleveland 708 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: it absolutely is because I didn't get I did research, 709 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: and you are still even despite all the whispers that 710 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: you can trade for a coach, I mean for a 711 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: coach at a later date, that little, that little Nook 712 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: and Cranny. I'd have to look up, but you can't. 713 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: But you can trade a coach, and so you can. 714 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 1: You can you can trade high executives or coaches under 715 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: the league's tampering rule. I don't know about the timing, 716 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: but it feels like this in my dynasty fantasy a 717 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: couple of times, right. I mean, I feel like, I 718 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: know you thought I was gonna go Belichick, but because 719 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: you just tweeted last night, it's a night, and this 720 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: is the second tweet just like this that's been sent 721 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: out on a random night, it's an ideal time for 722 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick to fly full circle back to the Brown 723 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: I think that makes nobody. That makes sense too. I 724 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: think that makes sense too. But I don't think that 725 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft would ever ever play party to that at 726 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: all unless Belichick has an outclause. And I don't think 727 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: Belichick will go to Cleveland. Yeah, well, I would say 728 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: it would be fine if you let Belichick be the owner, 729 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: just give him the team, because he would work for 730 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslum as soon as he would, you know, work 731 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: for what. That's why I don't see that. I just 732 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: don't see that as realistic. I do think though, if 733 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: you're Sean Payton, You're you go from do you want 734 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: to sit there with year forty two? Or do you 735 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: suddenly have Baker Mayfield the third most cap space in 736 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: the league, another like ten near leven draft picks and 737 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: one of the more talented rosters on the rise, like 738 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Go from winning a title potentially with New 739 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: Orleans to Bill Parcels used to do this with Super 740 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: Bowl while you're negotiating with other teams on the phone 741 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: during Super Bowl Week. It's fair well because I think 742 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: Sean Payton could in this in this world, Sean Payton 743 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: goes and says, look, I've won you two super Bowls. 744 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: I've been here for twelve years. I want to make it. 745 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: But my takeaway from this is the Bruce Arians does 746 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: not excite you. I mean he does, but I don't 747 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: think that the Browns necessarily are excited by Bruce Arians. Really, 748 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know, but that Sean Payton would excite 749 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: me more. These are high times, uh, for the Sean 750 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: Payton fans, But it wasn't that long ago that he 751 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: was like seven or nine, three years in a row. 752 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a lot to give up the Browns. 753 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: What did you give up? Again? It was to first 754 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: because I just don't think. I don't, I don't think. 755 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: I think. I think if you get the coach that 756 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna have for ten more years, who cares about 757 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: two first? John Payton's worth more than Odell Beckham. I 758 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: think Sean Payton has engineered a top five offense every 759 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: single year, so every even though there's but now Baker 760 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: Mayfield and he's recreated himself. You're right about the seven 761 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: and nine, But then he doesn't just flatline and get 762 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: words a defensive guy. Dan doesn't like it at all. No, 763 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: it's we just gotta keep moving west. You're up. That 764 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: was a good That was a good, A good conversation, 765 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: this one on both sides. This one is in a 766 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: closer atmosphere um and not nearly as exciting and minor 767 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: like you gotta Cowboys need one more weapon on offense 768 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: and their tight ends are hurt. Team. They need a 769 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: guy who's played at a Pro Bowl level this year 770 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: for a team going nowhere. Jared Cook of the Raiders, 771 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: who's a free agent after the year, to the Cowboys 772 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: for a fourth round pick. See, that's very believable. It 773 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: might be a little high price, but that is the 774 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: type of trade you would see. I think on December first. 775 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: Jared Cook, who's playing great. It's had a great year 776 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: for the Raiders, and if I'm him, I'm not resigning 777 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: to play for that. What's going on in Dallas now 778 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: at the tight end position, Jeff much starter, he just 779 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,479 Speaker 1: had surgery on his wrists, So they've got a bunch 780 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: of nobody's in there. They need another. They won't play Ricos, 781 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: They've had almost no production there. I mean, I never 782 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: saw I thought i'd see a season where Jared Cook 783 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: is easily the number one receiver on his team. But 784 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: he's done a nice job with it in Oakland, including 785 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: one kind of an under the radar one of the 786 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: best touchdown catches of the entire season last year last week, 787 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and falling backwards, and an underthrown throw one handed. 788 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: He's been great. One of the best playoff catches of 789 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: the last ten years, Aaron Rodgers, probably the best throw 790 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: of the last ten years. Yeah, well, and that came 791 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: against these very cowboys. There you go, yeah, go get 792 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: the guy who beat you. Revenge. Just if you can't 793 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: beat him, go get him. Uh, that's a great one. 794 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't know who says no there. I think that 795 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: that happens. We gotta put this is an approval. That's 796 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: a lifeline. Right there is that our first trade, I 797 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: feel like makes a lot of sense. Alright, so the Jaguars, 798 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: I think the Pats accepted that ziggy ansa deal. So yeah, 799 00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm word with him. Patriots, Yep, they said yes, Damndel 800 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: as well. So we got three. Oh wait, Sean Payton 801 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be the head coach of the Browns. That 802 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: one worked too. We're on fire. The Jaguars. They had 803 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: their shot windows open, they couldn't get through. Yeah, yes, 804 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: they got dang by Operation Pink Pony in the title game. 805 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: But that's that's what's done is done. Now they have 806 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: that defense that's regressing. They have the worst quarterback mess 807 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: in the league. And yes, could they circle the wagons 808 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: on d next year and get back to an approximation 809 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: of their two thousands, sixteen or seventeen level. Perhaps, But 810 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: are they gonna be able to pull off a trade, 811 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: uh to bring in a quarterback who can get the 812 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: job done? Um, that's hard to do. I don't know 813 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: who you would even target in that scenario. So you're 814 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: probably gonna go to the draft, and then you're looking 815 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: at kind of a soft reboot for this team as 816 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: close as they came. Soft reboot. Yeah, it's a soft one, uh, 817 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: knowing Tom Coughlin and Tommy's upset. Tommy's upset Greg, And 818 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: you like it because you've got all this rage built 819 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: up about Tom coughlind those two Super Bowls. So you're 820 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: enjoying what's happening right now with Coughlin. And what did 821 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: he say in the media this week? He said, he 822 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: said he put on some he'll he'll put on the 823 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: gloves and defend all the decisions he made and he 824 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: does not regret giving Blake board as a monster contract. 825 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: So he's putting on the gloves, and you want he 826 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: seems like a guy that's gonna shake it up. And 827 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: I think you know where I'm going on this one, right, 828 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: big shake up? No, because they're good players are in defense. 829 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, uh is a wildly talented, you know, diva 830 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: but wildly talented cornerback, and he might not want to 831 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: be there anymore. And and I've I saw this with 832 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: my own team with Keyshawn Johnson. This becomes a major 833 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: issue when the star that's very outgoing, charismatic talks a lot, 834 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: can't stop talking. Maybe not the best guy when things 835 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: are going bad. Sometimes it doesn't. It's not the worst 836 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: idea to to move that guy if you can really 837 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: get an offer that makes sense. Allen Ramsey and a 838 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: second round pick in and a conditional fifth round pick 839 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: in to the Chiefs for a first round pick in, 840 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: a first round pick in, a third round pick in, 841 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: and a sixth round pick in. Holy smokes, And if 842 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: you were tracking that those are the same terms of 843 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: the deal that sent Khalil Mack to the Bears. And 844 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: like Mac, I'm motivated and re energized. Jalen Ramsey could 845 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: have a transformative effect on any defense. He joins, Ramsey 846 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs and let's go to the Lombardi Riser. 847 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: That's a lot to give up to. So I just 848 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: don't think I thought I was telling. The Jaguars released 849 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: a statement right after that those trade rumors popped up 850 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: that they just wouldn't even consider it. They they he's 851 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: in the third year of his rookie contract, though, so 852 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: that this would be a logical time if you're gonna 853 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: move it. And I do think the Chiefs in this 854 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: exercise should be the team that are pushing all the 855 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: chips in. And if you're looking at the Jaguars, I 856 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: think Malake Jackson would maybe be up for Rabs right now, 857 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: not sure he's gonna be back with that team next year. 858 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: And Class Campbell would be a guy that you know 859 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: I'd be calling in. So this would be an advantage 860 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: of December first trading deadline because I think you could 861 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: maybe get one of those defensive linemen not sure about Ramsey. 862 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: That would be tough. I had a different cornerback going 863 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs from Dan's very own Jets, Mo Claiborne, 864 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: a free agent m to the year to the Chiefs 865 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: for a more reasonable like mid round pick. I would 866 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: love to see the Chiefs if the Patriots can't make it. 867 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: I just think it'd be a great story. So we 868 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: all had similar ideas here. I think Jalen Ramsey needs 869 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: like a month with a DOLLI Lama more than he 870 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: needs to trade get rid of all that hatred Ramsey. 871 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll maybe it'll be a story this offsee possible. 872 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: Do you think Mac and Ramsey are similar in terms 873 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 1: of how they can change the defense. No, I think 874 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: Maxworth Moore. Yeah, I think Maxworth because I you know, 875 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: a absolute top tier cornerback if you believe in j 876 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: Ramsey at that level, can really change things. Hey mean 877 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: he's in the same conversation. I'm not. I'm not putting 878 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: him in the Darrelle Revis top level cornerback half the field. 879 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: I think he's a great if one half that fields gone. 880 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: He's been truly dominant one season out of three. He's 881 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: a really great player. But you're putting him in the 882 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: level of Hall of famers. I don't think he's played 883 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: at that level except for last year. You're banking on 884 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 1: the potential a little bit too sure, Okay, close it out, great, 885 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: had some chiefs and jag stuff. Let's let's go with 886 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: the one that, yeah, I got a lot of trade. 887 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's add one that not only is 888 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: it made, the trade has made this week. Um, but 889 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: they they work out a deal where no one even 890 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: knows about it until the pregame introductions on Sunday, forty Seahawks. 891 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: They're introducing the Seahawks legion. Who's Who's the last name 892 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: that they call, oh wait a second, Oh no, is 893 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: that is that Richard Sherman's music coming out? He's not 894 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: with the Fortyers anymore. They're in the visiting locker room. 895 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: He's coming out with the Sea Hawks. They bring him 896 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: back because now they're in the playoff race. They know 897 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: it and Shermans playing at such a high level waste 898 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of wasted away on the forty Niners. We don't 899 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: need him anymore. There were some tough things said, but 900 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 1: ultimately Sherman is a Seahawk. He knows that the fans 901 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 1: love him, and let's go make a fun last playoff 902 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 1: push and I don't you know, costs a let's say 903 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick that reminds me of There was 904 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: a lot of uh, some back talk from Sherman, who 905 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: really was It seemed to be It's funny how life 906 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: can come back to bite you in the old buttocks 907 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: because he's he thought he was on the rising NFC 908 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: West team and he was taking shots at what he 909 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: thought was a declining giant. And here we are entering 910 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: December and the Seahawks are still a player in the 911 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: NFC and the Niners are one of the worst teams 912 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: in football. The problem is like then the Seahawks will 913 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: get eliminated like fourteen days later, and you've got Richard 914 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: Sherman back on your roster going playing the off season. 915 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: It's like asking for a new contract here. Pete Carroll 916 00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want another go round with Richard Sherman, and that 917 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: they like Shaquille Griffin and Trey Flowers, Well, they should, 918 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: they should. They should like Richard Sherman because he's a 919 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: much better player than either of those guys right now. 920 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: But they've been winning all year with these guys and 921 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: they want to keep winning with him. And I think 922 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, both the front office, Schneider and Carol feeling 923 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: pretty good about themselves that they were able to purge 924 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 1: some of these big dramatics of it. It's like when 925 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: the rest you know in arrest it turns that heel 926 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: to a hero or even goes from like W C 927 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: W two W didn't you didn't see it coming? Sure? 928 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: This was the A yeah that would work bro Uh 929 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: good trades guys. Sean Jackson I thought was gonna get dealt, 930 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: but he he hasn't made a plan about two months. 931 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: Not all his fault, but I would like to add him. 932 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: Didn't he go to a specialist this week to check 933 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: out his thumb. Yeah, he's got a thumb issue as well. 934 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to catch pass. It's even Jimmy 935 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: Graham can't do all right, there are the trades before 936 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: we go Thursday night football. We got a good one. 937 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: It's the Saints writing a ten game winning streak. Uh. 938 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: And here's a nice challenge. They go to a big D. 939 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: Connie on the Twitter Show, it's not gonna suggested that 940 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: it's time to move on from the term big D. 941 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that big day. Um. So 942 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's where they're going for this game. 943 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: I respect. I kind of like that one. I'm gonna 944 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to her no longer say okay, that's fair, 945 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: that's fair. Um, But here we are the Redskins. I mean, 946 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are on a three game winning streak. But here, 947 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: um Mark Sessler is the test of their season. The 948 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: Saints unstoppable, scary in prime time. Yeah. I I keep 949 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: hearing how great of a game this is, and you 950 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: can make an argument for it. But my my concern 951 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,240 Speaker 1: number one would be if Tyrone Smith is not available 952 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys because when he's not been in the 953 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: lineup that offense, that offense is a completely different operation. 954 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott has been sacked as much as any 955 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. And so that you're playing a 956 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: Saints defense that everyone talks about the offense, can Jordan 957 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankin's the way that they're operating up front. They're 958 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: very dangerous. They haven't allowed you know, they're allowing less 959 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: than twenty points per game. I I don't really see 960 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: this as a game that's going to be close potentially 961 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: at all. This is gonna be the unmasking of the Cowboys. Also, 962 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: I'm covering it, so I'd like it just to be 963 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: a big old romp as always just but I I 964 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: also but you know what, I'll say this, I love it. 965 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the Saints a game though. On 966 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: My one thing about the Saints versus other teams is 967 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: the Saints winning forty two ten is exciting to me 968 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: versus other teams winning to forty to ten. And I 969 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 1: think we've taught someone else made a similar comment. I 970 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: I want the Saints to get home field advantage. I 971 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: want them to go to the Super Bowl. And I 972 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: want them to continue to take care of business and 973 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: this and the Cowboys don't feel like the team to me, 974 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: that is the antidote here. Not to labor the point, 975 00:49:54,560 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: but what's more exciting to Saints or SATs forty to here? Sometimes? 976 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: Because sometimes I like to see it's not every team. 977 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: I like to see a team drop a mega hammer, 978 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: and they are in that mode right now of just 979 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: dropping hammers every week. I often would be unhappy with that, 980 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,479 Speaker 1: but I like it with the Saints. Okay, you don't 981 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: need to. But if you were a tavern, if you 982 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: were in a tavern, you want I honestly love blowouts. 983 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 1: Sometimes I like to see big massacres. I don't need. 984 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: There's every game is thirty one in the NFL right now? 985 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: A bomb? Alright? Okay, uh, well, the Cowboys have scored 986 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: They scored thirty one points on the Redskins last week. 987 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: That's a nice job in two NFL get to that 988 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: thirty mark. But they've only done it one time all 989 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: season before that. I mean, what's the absolute minimum number 990 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: of points that the Saints are going to score? What? 991 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: Thirty four? They're averaging thirty seven I think this season. 992 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: So the Cowboys are gonna have to score points and 993 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 1: and Wes, you were right on Cooper that he could 994 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: have a big effect on this team. The Cowboys are 995 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: gonna have to come out and Zeke Elliott's gonna have 996 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: to go nuts, and Cooper is gonna have to have 997 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: a touchdown or two. It's asking a lot, but at 998 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 1: least they're in their building. You can make a case 999 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: that they can hang around here. They need to score touchdowns. 1000 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: On offense, you need to control the ball, and when 1001 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: they get in the red zone, you don't settle for 1002 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: field goals. You get Zeke Elliott, Amari Cooper, whoever into 1003 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: the end zone. Um, that's that's how it starts. And 1004 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: then your defense, which to me, the Saints and Cowboys 1005 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 1: have two of the most fun defenses in the league, 1006 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: and they're not traditionally known as defensive powerhouses. But outside 1007 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: of the Bears, I think I trust these two defenses 1008 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: as much as anyone in I do. I think the 1009 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: way the Saints are playing on defense right now, either 1010 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: people aren't paying attention because of the offense, well, I 1011 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: mean their defense. They were in Matt Ryan's grill the 1012 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: entire game last weekend. He's still through. For well, he's 1013 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: still through because he's good. That's what happened. But Layton 1014 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 1: vander Ish to me is one of the most fun 1015 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: linebackers in the league to watch right now. DeMarcus Lawrence 1016 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: is an All Pro candidate. Jalen Smith has been every 1017 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: bit what the Cowboys hoped they would be when they 1018 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: took a chance on him. This is a really good defense. 1019 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: And if they can get after Drew Brees and force 1020 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: a few turnovers, that's your recipe. Score deep, score touchdowns 1021 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,359 Speaker 1: on offense and get after Drew Brees on defense. I mean, 1022 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: NFL Networks excited, Foxes excited, the Cowboys are winning. It's 1023 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: like everyone has this Cowboys fever lately, and I feel 1024 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: like only like a prescription from Dr Rainmaker is gonna 1025 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: because again because because I'm not firing it, I'm not 1026 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 1: fighting this Cowboys team. There, I didn't know a long. 1027 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: Do we have permission from Annie Lennox to use that 1028 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: in a gambling Just let's keep it on the down. 1029 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,439 Speaker 1: This is just if you're in a competitive, no money 1030 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: at stake league. I could can I hear that acapella? 1031 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,280 Speaker 1: Then if that was your voice, didn't do anything getting 1032 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: four more of these propositions during tomorrow's preview show. I 1033 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: don't know, we'll have to. It's not about it's not 1034 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: about making rules, about having fun, and it's about it's 1035 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: about a feeling like you can't control the rain. It's 1036 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: you're feeling either gonna come or not. The lawsuit. Here's 1037 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: the thing, I really, I really do believe that the 1038 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys have been overrated the last few weeks. Okay, DeMarcus 1039 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence has been an unbelievable player. If he's going to 1040 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: be the defensive Player of the year type of guy, 1041 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: and he's played at the level like make a bunch 1042 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: of plays to win this game with Ron Armstead hurt. 1043 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: But I I don't see defenses doing that in key 1044 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: spots this year. Uh Byron Jones make some plays covering 1045 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. This it came out as about a touchdown, 1046 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown spas hoping it would maybe go down for that. 1047 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,839 Speaker 1: It was hoping it would go below that. It's not right. 1048 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: It's right at seven and spread. It's here's the thing, though, 1049 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: they could keep it close for two and a half quarters. 1050 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: Couldn't you see that? Do you really see them stopping them? Uh? 1051 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: Drive after driving. And actually I agree with Mark. The 1052 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: Saints are better than every team in the league. They 1053 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: are a blowout team. And as much as I want 1054 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: this to be a game, and I do, I do 1055 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: respect the Cowboys. I think they're the best team in 1056 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: the East. They're not even in the same league I 1057 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: did see right now, But I don't yet respect their 1058 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: passing game. Dak Prescott has in PFF has a stat 1059 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: for it. So we agree we are going to blow 1060 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: them in which sacks? Which which quarterbacks have been at 1061 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: fault for the most sacks of on their own team 1062 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: where it's not the offensive and it's stacked by far 1063 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: and and I don't and you may not have your 1064 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 1: left tackle and you and you're watching that game against 1065 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,919 Speaker 1: the Falcons that the passing game to me is still 1066 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: very rudimentary. They're that old, old school team and they're 1067 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna make face the future. Bad news you're gambling, and 1068 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: bad news for you, Mark, No gambling, but that's it's 1069 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: not bad news like this will be invested. But yeah, 1070 00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: and I don't really care. To be clear, there's no 1071 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing going on here that's against league rules. 1072 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 1: And uh, anyone anyone's taking my advice. You know, be warned, 1073 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: I can not only un personal demon for Greg. That's 1074 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,959 Speaker 1: gonna tug all of us down because now without any 1075 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: sort of consultation, he's just using music that we're not 1076 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: allowed to use to sell his little segment that he's 1077 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,399 Speaker 1: gonna use four more times during tomorrow's show. Didn't win 1078 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 1: by at least ten points, was six weeks ago. Well, 1079 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: that they're due for a close game, and that's what's 1080 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:34,240 Speaker 1: gonna happen, or you get your money back, everybody. I'm covered. 1081 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: There's no money in can get Greg's money. We'll be 1082 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: back on Thursday night with a recap of what's gonna 1083 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: be obviously either a blowout or a barn burner with 1084 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: no in between, and then we'll preview all of the 1085 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: week thirteen games. We're coming down the stretch now, uh 1086 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,919 Speaker 1: so make sure you follow along. This is Dan hands 1087 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: Is signing up Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Old Boss, 1088 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: and Ricky Tampos, Finn Glass, Ricky Hollywood, the Loose Cabbage. 1089 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 1: Is a lot of things still Thursday Night, m HM.