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Speaker 4: You made made what's up?
Speaker 5: Sir?
Speaker 1: I made it Ballerlarg's and foremost we appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1: This is you know, it's a family Bening's over hell.
Speaker 1: Been a big fan of you for a very long time.
Speaker 1: I love how you always reinvent yourself. Thank you and
Speaker 1: stay and stay current. That's a very hard thing to do, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because we can we can age out fast and five
Speaker 1: six years that's what they really give us.
Speaker 4: Can can we can we take it back? Though? Can
Speaker 4: we go?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: First I want to know where did a new.
Speaker 1: Maino that came from. So what happened was, you know,
Speaker 1: me and Angela always been tight for years. You know,
Speaker 1: she called me her be her best rapper friend. So
Speaker 1: what happened was I ran into her. She said, Yo, listen,
Speaker 1: ray J is doing it like this little get together
Speaker 1: for me for my new show come by.
Speaker 4: I said, bet, I'm gonna pull up. I get there.
Speaker 1: It's lit, everybody's having fun and we're chilling. So I
Speaker 1: had just it was around Valentine's Day and I had
Speaker 1: just dropped the song me and Fat Right and my artist,
Speaker 1: the Stop Baby, so it was like a girl's song.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, I wanted to play it.
Speaker 1: I wanted there was a lot of girls there, so
Speaker 1: Angela and I was like, all right, but let me
Speaker 1: let me get it, let me put it on my phone.
Speaker 1: And you know, we was drinking, taking shots, so we
Speaker 1: was a little saucy and somebody just said new mano.
Speaker 1: So every time we went to play it, they was
Speaker 1: going new MANO, new MANO. So that night she was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: want you come up to the show and guest host
Speaker 1: for the week.
Speaker 4: I said, bet, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna pull up.
Speaker 4: So I pulled up and I walked in. They was like,
Speaker 4: new man. Oh, so it just stuck. It just stuck.
Speaker 4: It just stuck.
Speaker 3: It's just when when she was talking about guest hosts
Speaker 3: and it lip service, right.
Speaker 1: No, it was the Way Up Show. The way this
Speaker 1: is all about the way. This is all over year ago.
Speaker 1: So this is everything to do with the Way Up Show?
Speaker 3: Is that new?
Speaker 4: Is that new? Wow? Is that new? And you never
Speaker 4: and then you never left cause you've been never left.
Speaker 1: But right, yeah, So what happened was I came for
Speaker 1: that week thinking that like, this is my girl.
Speaker 4: It wasn't left like no pressure, right.
Speaker 1: I never done radio before other than being an artist
Speaker 1: and promoting what I had gone on. So when I
Speaker 1: get up there, it's like, all right, it's cool. They
Speaker 1: was like, you're kind of good at him? You would
Speaker 1: you would you come back? I said, I pull up.
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing you my dog, it ain't nothing. You know, Jasmine,
Speaker 1: here we vibing it. We have It's all good. And
Speaker 1: I started to come back and I started to come back,
Speaker 1: and then the new MANO and then the fans was saying,
Speaker 1: like we liked when Mayno is on it because I
Speaker 1: wasn't coming every day. But the fans were saying, we
Speaker 1: like when he up there, and they had the segment
Speaker 1: where it was like, it's supposed to be no judgment,
Speaker 1: I'm judging.
Speaker 4: So it was like you became a thing.
Speaker 3: Calling it.
Speaker 6: But we're gonna We're gonna here is rewind a little
Speaker 6: bit before we get all the way to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: So let's take it all the way back to Brooklyn.
Speaker 4: Man is your name really, Mano? My name is your Maine.
Speaker 4: Got so?
Speaker 1: Mano's a nickname, got it? You know they call me Maine.
Speaker 1: You know Maine, Maine Mano. In the neighborhood that I
Speaker 1: come from, right, I'm from bed Star, So that's where
Speaker 1: the BIGGI from. That's Biggie from. All the greats come
Speaker 1: from there. You gotta understand all all of the greats,
Speaker 1: Biggie jay Z, Big Daddy Kane, Fabulous Lo Kim like
Speaker 1: you name it. I'm from there. We're all from different
Speaker 1: sections in best style though. So the neighborhood, I'm fronded.
Speaker 1: Whatever your name was. If your name was Steve, they
Speaker 1: call you Steve O. Right. If your name is Wayne,
Speaker 1: they call you Wayno, you know, my nickname is Maine.
Speaker 1: Andy call me mano. So I mean, you know, ghetto boy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, child of ghetto. I caught
Speaker 1: up in the street very early. You know, my story
Speaker 1: is pretty well well known. I went to prison when
Speaker 1: I was around sixteen seventeen. When you know, the ten
Speaker 1: years in prison, I never wrapped the day of my life.
Speaker 1: Never thought about music. I never I never had any
Speaker 1: aspirations or dreams to do music. Music was never something
Speaker 1: that I ever even fathom. But when I was in
Speaker 1: prison and I was going through what I was going through,
Speaker 1: getting trouble in there, you know. You know, one night
Speaker 1: I was just like yo, I was in a box
Speaker 1: twenty three hours locked in. I'm like yo, I'm right
Speaker 1: mere rhyme. You know, I liked I felt, you know.
Speaker 4: And at the.
Speaker 1: Time I was like, man, you know, it was like
Speaker 1: Biggie was out and Wu Tang was out, and you know,
Speaker 1: this is this is the nineties. So I was like, man,
Speaker 1: what if I go home and come a rapper? And
Speaker 1: I started to play with that thought, like man, what
Speaker 1: if what if I did that? Now you got to
Speaker 1: understand it this time, nobody had ever done that before
Speaker 1: before me. It was never nobody to ever done a
Speaker 1: large amount of jail time and come home and become
Speaker 1: an artist, and become home and have any bit of
Speaker 1: of platinum success or anything. I had nobody to look
Speaker 1: at and say, well, such and such did that, right.
Speaker 1: That had never happened before. So it was like a
Speaker 1: long shot to even think that you can even come
Speaker 1: home after after doing eight, nine, ten years and become
Speaker 1: an artist.
Speaker 4: So it was, it was, it was. It was a thing.
Speaker 4: So it was a miracle actually.
Speaker 6: And it was at a boredom like you you just say,
Speaker 6: let me just start rhyming. Was did you have like
Speaker 6: a did you test it out in jail, like I
Speaker 6: mean in prison? Did you test it out with your
Speaker 6: peers in there? I guess or so? Did they tell
Speaker 6: you it was hot? Like the thing?
Speaker 4: Is this?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: It was? I was in the box a lot, like
Speaker 4: I was spending a lot.
Speaker 1: Of time in the solitary, solitary confinement, twenty three hour
Speaker 1: locked in, you know, spending in years that way. And
Speaker 1: when I started rapping, it was under those conditions. I
Speaker 1: started rapping in the box, so you understand. So I'm
Speaker 1: in my cell, I don't got nothing else to do
Speaker 1: but maybe read sleep radio. They give you these headphones
Speaker 1: you plug into the wall and you could hear you know,
Speaker 1: the rock and roll or the alternative music and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So this is they didn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of hip hop stations back then.
Speaker 4: You only heard like hits.
Speaker 1: So whatever was like the super popular record on the
Speaker 1: on the hot one hundred or you know, just like
Speaker 1: a hot, hot hip hop song, then you heard it, right,
Speaker 1: So you heard Snoop and Dread, you heard Biggie because
Speaker 1: you know, there was they was up there in the sky.
Speaker 4: So I was I was under those conditions. I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know like nothing about the industry. I didn't
Speaker 1: know nothing about being a rapper. I just knew that
Speaker 1: it felt good doing it, like I would just it
Speaker 1: would help me.
Speaker 4: Pass the time away.
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm like, man, if I if I get
Speaker 1: up this morning after I eat breakfast and I started
Speaker 1: writing me in rhyme, and it had passed a couple
Speaker 1: of hours and next thing you know, it'd be dark
Speaker 1: and the days started to go faster like that. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of like how I was. I was in
Speaker 1: that mode of like just doing something new that I
Speaker 1: had never done before, and it felt good doing it,
Speaker 1: and so I would I didn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: confidence in doing it though, so I would like they
Speaker 1: would have like porters that helped give out the food
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And you know, one of the
Speaker 1: guys is a homie Minds and I was like, Yo, what.
Speaker 4: Do you think this sounded like? And he was like,
Speaker 4: this sound all right?
Speaker 1: It was like some stressed out Yo, I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the cell looking like like some tupac and painful.
Speaker 4: You're like, you know what I mean? So it was
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I was gonna say, so when you
Speaker 1: came home, what was the plan? Did you come home
Speaker 1: and say I'm getting in the studio. So from the
Speaker 1: time that I started rapping, I still had more time
Speaker 1: to do right. And you know, so all I had
Speaker 1: was a five to fifteen. I could have been home
Speaker 1: in five but like I said, I was getting into
Speaker 1: as would you. I had a drug related kidnapping, right,
Speaker 1: so I had I had a charge that you know,
Speaker 1: I could have got twenty five of life for right.
Speaker 4: But I was young.
Speaker 1: I copped out to a five to fifteen, and I
Speaker 1: was if I had been like a smooth young cat,
Speaker 1: I could have probably been home in five years, right,
Speaker 1: But I was in the shit, you know, getting caught up, right,
Speaker 1: So I did ten.
Speaker 4: You did the full ten. Ten. That's that's that's what
Speaker 4: they called you.
Speaker 1: That's what they called like your se all, like your
Speaker 1: conditional release, like they have to let you go unless
Speaker 1: you just lose all your good time. So I had
Speaker 1: some good time left, which was for five years, and
Speaker 1: they let me go in ten. So what was important
Speaker 1: about that is that like I was telling you, like
Speaker 1: I ain't really had no confidence. I was looking at
Speaker 1: myself like I ain't no rapper.
Speaker 6: I ain't no rapper, and like being in that solitary
Speaker 6: confinement you didn't have anybody to bounce your ideas off.
Speaker 4: Not really, it ain't.
Speaker 1: So I got out of the box and then I
Speaker 1: started to kind of like pull certain dudes that I
Speaker 1: was comfortable with, and I would let them know, say
Speaker 1: I had a complex because I looked at I was.
Speaker 4: Like, man, gangs, I ain't no rapper.
Speaker 1: And at this point, at this at this point in
Speaker 1: the culture, it wasn't that it wasn't that fashionable to
Speaker 1: be an artist, to be a rapper, meaning because the
Speaker 1: way we was looking at it, like rap ass nigga,
Speaker 1: like like you understand, like you're sitting on the yard rapping,
Speaker 1: being somebody entertainment like I had. It was like kind
Speaker 1: of like a negative connotation. So I was struggling with that.
Speaker 1: I was struggling with the idea of me being a
Speaker 1: rapping how people looked at me, because what I thought
Speaker 1: of myself at that time was like, I'm on, my
Speaker 1: g I'm on, I'm stepping, I'm stepping in a certain
Speaker 1: kind of way, and I don't want nobody to be
Speaker 1: playing with me or look at me and make it
Speaker 1: mixed me up, right, So I was like struggling with that.
Speaker 1: So what happened was I never told nobody from the
Speaker 1: outside world that I was rapping, like of the people
Speaker 1: that looked out for me, my friends, my brothers, the
Speaker 1: people that really was there for me, the women that
Speaker 1: was coming up, I never I held that secret for
Speaker 1: years because the reason why I held those that secret
Speaker 1: for years is because it was, like I said, it
Speaker 1: was so far fetched to believe that at this point
Speaker 1: somebody could come home after doing seven, eight, nine, ten
Speaker 1: years and become an artist.
Speaker 4: That had never happened.
Speaker 1: You had artists that did small bids, you know, two
Speaker 1: three years and all that.
Speaker 4: And and and popped off.
Speaker 1: But were talking about a gang of time that had
Speaker 1: that was never nowadays you see that. So I never
Speaker 1: told none of my people because if I would have
Speaker 1: called home and somebody would have said to me, your man,
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do when you come home?
Speaker 4: When I say, y, I'm a rap, and they would
Speaker 4: have said to me, they would have been like, man,
Speaker 4: the fuck out, you ain't a rapper.
Speaker 1: I would have said you right, I'm not a rapper?
Speaker 1: What am I doing it? And I would have been
Speaker 1: out of that dream. I would have been out of
Speaker 1: that bag right then and there I would.
Speaker 3: Have been from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're kind of glad that you did that, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard I saw a t I quote that he
Speaker 1: was like, sometimes you can't share, you can you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't Sometimes you got to keep it to them.
Speaker 1: Puts their fears on you, right and right. And because
Speaker 1: this was just so unheard of, it's not like now
Speaker 1: when you know this rapping and came out you heard
Speaker 1: the twelve years, it's almost like it enhances. Yeah, now right,
Speaker 1: you hear about that. Now this is totally unheard of.
Speaker 1: This is this is what I'm saying, I can't even
Speaker 1: believe sometimes that that even happened to me, because I
Speaker 1: was it was so many guys that was that was
Speaker 1: like rapping, and I was just you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of the coach. I could quote anything, right, and
Speaker 1: I was come, stop buying y'all and listen to dudes.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, he could be someone to
Speaker 1: go out that Never that never worked for nobody else.
Speaker 1: Why would it work for me when I wasn't even
Speaker 1: the one that was doing it like that. So the
Speaker 1: thing was, so I never told nobody, and so I
Speaker 1: got to a place where I was super confident in it.
Speaker 1: And so I got to a place where I started
Speaker 1: saying like, yo, you know what, I'm gonna go home
Speaker 1: and do it. And I had made a tape, right
Speaker 1: because back then, you know, my brothers, my people, they
Speaker 1: used to be around Biggie, they used to be around Camp.
Speaker 1: So I was like, man, I'm gonna go home and
Speaker 1: be around Biggie. I'm gonna go home and get and
Speaker 1: get with them, and I'm gonna blow up, right, So
Speaker 1: we all I had those dreams. So I made a tape,
Speaker 1: snuck it out to jail, got it to my people
Speaker 1: and sent them a long letter and it was received well,
Speaker 1: like it was like okay, all right. It wasn't that
Speaker 1: they didn't give me the the feedback, the negative feedback
Speaker 1: that I thought I was gonna get. So at that point,
Speaker 1: you know, my people was just like, yo, look, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to do, We're gonna support it. Whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do, you know what I mean. My God
Speaker 1: was like that was a great feeling. So he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know, you want me to get you some books?
Speaker 1: You got time?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: He sent me Donald Passman, you know, Kashif book all
Speaker 1: you need to know about the music business. So I
Speaker 1: started to read and then I was like, yo, we
Speaker 1: need to start our own company.
Speaker 4: And I started.
Speaker 1: I came up to the name of Hustle Hall Entertainment
Speaker 1: while I still was in prison. So Hustle Halls you
Speaker 1: see main o Hustle hard that I birthed that in prison.
Speaker 3: Where did that come from?
Speaker 5: That name?
Speaker 1: It just felt like that's who we should be, Like
Speaker 1: like we hustlers, Like we're gonna figure figure it out.
Speaker 4: We're gonna this is what we do all day every day.
Speaker 1: Were trying to figure out ideas of how to come
Speaker 1: up and how to make it, how to get money right.
Speaker 4: We hustling, we hustling hard. We're gonna go get it.
Speaker 1: The early ovation, yeah, early main ovation definitely. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you get out, what happens then I get out? I
Speaker 1: get that right, So what I get So, so the
Speaker 1: thing was I got out originally two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: but I caught a violation, and for I was home
Speaker 1: only for five months and I caught a violation and wound.
Speaker 4: Up doing a year. He had to go back to
Speaker 4: go back.
Speaker 1: But when I came out, my people was like we
Speaker 1: had already understood, you know, my brother Daiko, my brother Mouse,
Speaker 1: we had already understood what we what what I was
Speaker 1: gonna come home and do, and they was they was
Speaker 1: ready to receive that and helped me to do whatever
Speaker 1: I needed to do. So, you know, I made it.
Speaker 1: I made my first tape, you know, it made my
Speaker 1: first CD. It was Household Entertainment Presentment, know you know,
Speaker 1: and it was like my first step into me. I
Speaker 1: had never been in the studio before. This is my
Speaker 1: everything was brand new. Everything, every feeling, every every experience
Speaker 1: was brand new. I went I went to prison at
Speaker 1: an early age. So some of the things that I
Speaker 1: was behind socially, you know, dating and going out and
Speaker 1: doing certain things like I'm twenty seven, twenty eight, but
Speaker 1: I'm behind. But at the same time, I got this
Speaker 1: dream of being an artist, so you know, I'm stepping
Speaker 1: I gets locked back up.
Speaker 4: My do my do?
Speaker 6: My?
Speaker 4: Uh my, my violation and I was depressed. Is this
Speaker 4: discouraging at this point?
Speaker 1: What they locked me up for going to see my
Speaker 1: co defendant, for going to visit him on the prison,
Speaker 1: like like going to visit him for being quote unquote
Speaker 1: a real guy, right, a real nigga. I'm going to
Speaker 1: see my guy. They locked me up, give me a
Speaker 1: year of violation. And I said, man, this music thing
Speaker 1: never gonna work for me. My girl pregnant at the time.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm gonna miss the birth of my seed.
Speaker 1: I ain't even know what I was having at the time.
Speaker 1: I gotta do another year. This ain't never gonna work
Speaker 1: for me. I'm never gonna make it.
Speaker 3: How'd you pull yourself out of that.
Speaker 4: Time?
Speaker 1: Because when I was feeling like that, you know, when
Speaker 1: you going through something right, it feel like it's gonna
Speaker 1: last forever. I'm sitting there just trying to fathom the
Speaker 1: idea that I gotta do a whole nother year. And
Speaker 1: I'm saying everything that I thought I wanted to be,
Speaker 1: all of the thoughts. I want to get out the street, man,
Speaker 1: I want to do something different. I've been here all
Speaker 1: my life. I don't know nothing else. Streets, in jail, jail,
Speaker 1: back to the street, back to jail. And I was
Speaker 1: depressed for a long time. I wasn't up there trying
Speaker 1: to write no rhymes.
Speaker 4: I was just depressed.
Speaker 1: And one day I started to feel like, this is
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go home. So time I start to
Speaker 1: heal certain things for you. So I was just like, man,
Speaker 1: six months then went by. I got six months left.
Speaker 1: I maybe still could pull this off. Am I gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and wallow in my shame? Am I gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and still just be caught up in my feelings? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand up, pull my pass up, and figure
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 4: So my son was born while I still was there.
Speaker 1: That made me happy, but then it also made me
Speaker 1: feel like, then what I'm gonna go do. You're gonna
Speaker 1: go full streets, You're gonna go full steam ahead in
Speaker 1: the street, or you're gonna still try to salvage this dream.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I came home three months after my son was born,
Speaker 1: but by that time I had already dug into my
Speaker 1: reserves and started to feel better about myself and started
Speaker 1: to say, look, you know what I'm coming, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. And I got back to it as soon
Speaker 1: as I got home. I got back to it. I
Speaker 1: met K Slay, I met DJs rip R, I pter
Speaker 1: k Slay, you know DJ Clue. You know mvds were
Speaker 1: dudes very early on who was like very integral because
Speaker 1: it was the mixtape error, you know, and I got
Speaker 1: right into that, into that that circuit right there.
Speaker 4: So it started to happen.
Speaker 6: And then you got to deal with motown And what
Speaker 6: was that like when you got your first deal?
Speaker 3: I know it didn't work out, but what was that
Speaker 3: first deal like?
Speaker 4: That was tremendous for me?
Speaker 1: So I so Kim was somebody that I had known from,
Speaker 1: you know, from the neighborhood from early on. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: So I had got around her and that just opened
Speaker 1: up my mind.
Speaker 4: To the power possibilities that this really could happen.
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, this is a superstar, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm coming around, and you know, I'm meeting people, and
Speaker 1: I'm meeting Swiss and I'm meeting this one right, and
Speaker 1: I'm moving around, you know, and I'm in the studio,
Speaker 1: I'm hands on, right. And at the same time, I'm
Speaker 1: doing my own thing too. I'm on a mixtapes, I'm
Speaker 1: on Clue, I'm on k Slay, I'm freestyling on the
Speaker 1: radio down there. So it's like I'm doing my thing.
Speaker 1: And then I made a song. I made one song
Speaker 1: that changed my life. I made a song called Rumors, right,
Speaker 1: So the song Rumors changed my life. See people that
Speaker 1: they talk about how I hated and all that, but this, nah,
Speaker 1: this is the song that changed my life. This is
Speaker 1: the song that got me my first major record deal
Speaker 1: after coming home from prison.
Speaker 4: Eighteen months.
Speaker 1: So from the time that I was in prison sitting
Speaker 1: up their stress to the time I got my first
Speaker 1: major record deal was less than two years. What you
Speaker 1: wanna tell me, man, you could do anything? What I
Speaker 1: wasn't no rapper?
Speaker 4: What? So that was? That was? That was that was crazy?
Speaker 1: That was that just the feeling of somebody saying to me,
Speaker 1: you know, we want to we want to sign you
Speaker 1: to a record company.
Speaker 4: And it was Tone from track Masters.
Speaker 1: At the time he was running he was running Motown
Speaker 1: right and Universal he was it was silver or Rome.
Speaker 4: He was underneath Silvi or Rome.
Speaker 1: So signing that deal was just like everything for me,
Speaker 1: Like I was just so stuck in the moment that
Speaker 1: that I didn't even realize they that I needed to
Speaker 1: be doing more and that they needed to be doing more.
Speaker 1: And in two years that went by and I got dropped,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, But I was just
Speaker 1: so stuck and the fact that I was just.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, I got a deal less than two years.
Speaker 6: You know, like you said, you were just so and
Speaker 6: then you had got dropped. You know, how did you
Speaker 6: take that lesson into your next situation with Atlantic?
Speaker 4: So I was down here, I was in Atlanta. I
Speaker 4: was in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: It was it was one of it was the BT Awards,
Speaker 1: this was this is this had to be maybe two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, two thousand six, two thousand and seven, right,
Speaker 1: and man, I was down here, we was, we was,
Speaker 1: you know, running around at the awards. And I got
Speaker 1: a call from the lawyer. He said, uh, hey, the
Speaker 1: record company don't feel like they don't want to do
Speaker 1: besiness with you no more.
Speaker 4: At the award? Why are you at the War Show?
Speaker 1: I wasn't at the War Show, but I was in Atlanta, okay,
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, all right. You know
Speaker 1: two years that went by, they wasn't really doing what
Speaker 1: I thought that they were supposed to do, because I
Speaker 1: had the notion that as soon as you signed a
Speaker 1: recording deal, like they gonna blow you up right, like
Speaker 1: this is what I'm thinking, Like, Okay, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be on TV. I'm gonna have songs with Marith Carrey,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be up right, like I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: this feeling of success. I'm gonna be living in a
Speaker 1: big house. My mom's gonna be good. Like that's what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. Like soon as you get the record deal,
Speaker 1: everything happens. And it wasn't true. You get the record deal,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to work even harder. So when he called
Speaker 1: me and told me that they didn't want to do
Speaker 1: Betters with me no more, for some reason, I wasn't
Speaker 1: stressing it. For some reason, I just I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I didn't have no move in my head. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I was gonna do. But I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, And then I called Tone. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know, y'all y'all dropping me right, And he said,
Speaker 1: what man, I'm gonna fix it. Man, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: You good. I said, nah, man, I'm cool. Let it be.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you what the feeling was, but I was. I
Speaker 1: was confident enough to know that I'm gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: But I'm back in the hood, you understand, I'm back
Speaker 1: going to the to the to the to the hood
Speaker 1: studios because you know, I had a budget.
Speaker 4: I was at a sony I was you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 1: I was getting you know, I was having a you know,
Speaker 1: interns and ship like that. So you know, I was
Speaker 1: at food budget. So things different. Now we're back, you know,
Speaker 1: in the basement, and you know, I just think I
Speaker 1: was right. Do you think you needed that far right there? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta get you gotta you gotta come back down, right.
Speaker 1: You gotta sometimes get be humbled, you understand, Sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta be knocked down, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But it's it's a test to your to your strength,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: And I felt like in that moment, I was I
Speaker 1: didn't know what I was gonna do, but I knew
Speaker 1: I was gonna.
Speaker 4: Be all right? Is that when I came in Search?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So what happened was this. I had been talking
Speaker 1: to Atlantic. I mean, I guess we was talking. Jean
Speaker 1: Nelson just started as and on over there. You know,
Speaker 1: we was really close at this point. It had been
Speaker 1: some talks about me actually coming to Atlantic at the time.
Speaker 1: They knew my relationship with Kim at the time, so
Speaker 1: it was like it was, you know, we was talking
Speaker 1: and then I didn't have no deal and none of that,
Speaker 1: and then I made this song Hater right when I
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing, So I don't have no deal. I
Speaker 1: mixed the song and I know, and when I hear
Speaker 1: the song, I'm like, yo, this is this is this
Speaker 1: could be this could be it? Right, that's universal. It
Speaker 1: was universal, right. I felt like it was something universal.
Speaker 1: I felt like it was I had stole at hook
Speaker 1: from I stole a hook I did from from Cameron. Actually,
Speaker 1: Cameron had a song. Cameron had a song on his
Speaker 1: album Come Home with Me, and the line went he
Speaker 1: was talking about somebody and he said he come to
Speaker 1: his funeral and he looked in the.
Speaker 4: Casket and go, ah, Hayter.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I heard that when I was in prison. That album
Speaker 1: came out, I still you know, we had Old Boy
Speaker 1: and all that on it. I had heard that when
Speaker 1: I was in jail, So I was like, just him saying, Hi,
Speaker 1: I hater to somebody that was hating on him.
Speaker 4: But now the person's daddy in the casket.
Speaker 1: I just I totally got that, and I kind of
Speaker 1: took that idea and made that hook. You know. So
Speaker 1: when I heard it, I knew it was something. I
Speaker 1: knew that everybody in the world felt like they had hated,
Speaker 1: whether they was young, old, black, white, you know, it
Speaker 1: didn't matter, right, that's gonna you know, it's gonna go
Speaker 1: because it was very relatable.
Speaker 4: But I still didn't have a deal.
Speaker 1: So at the time, my brother eighty, he's, uh, he's
Speaker 1: in the office talking to fifty and fifty asking him
Speaker 1: what we're doing, Like what y'all doing. He's like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: we've been talking to Atlantic And he says to him,
Speaker 1: you know, wordy, I'm talking about what they're doing. They're like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, you know how it is. You're talking on
Speaker 1: the labels and sometimes it goes months. Say yo, no,
Speaker 1: can be talking for months. You could be talking for
Speaker 1: months facts, you know, but you want to hear the words.
Speaker 1: These are the words you want to hear when they
Speaker 1: want to do business with you. Who's your lawyer? That's
Speaker 1: who you That's what you want to hear.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: The back and forth talking is cool. He says to them, Yo,
Speaker 1: what your what they what they trying to do? He's like, man,
Speaker 1: we've been talking. He said, Yo, you need me to
Speaker 1: You need me to call over there?
Speaker 4: He said why not.
Speaker 1: And picked up the phone, called over there, called Craig Common, Yo,
Speaker 1: look what you're doing maino. He said, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 1: been talking. He said, look, man, if I could do it,
Speaker 1: I would do it.
Speaker 4: Shout out to fifty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is this is this is the thing. Right,
Speaker 1: Like that call put me in position. Right.
Speaker 4: I never forget that call.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there for the call, but I got the
Speaker 1: call right. The thing was, you know, this is fifty.
Speaker 1: This is at the time when like he's hot fifty right,
Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's nothing bigger than him. He called that
Speaker 1: man and said listen, he call that white man and say, look.
Speaker 3: Still call the white man out today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, call that white man and say, look what y'all
Speaker 1: doing with mano? Yeah, y'all gonna do this deal? Or
Speaker 1: what was happening? I would do it if I cook
Speaker 1: they got their movement, they you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I would do it. And that's all that needed to
Speaker 1: be said. You know what happened. They called me right away.
Speaker 1: I had a meet in the same day like this,
Speaker 1: Like it was like a late meeting too, like if
Speaker 1: you understand, it was like after the office hours, like
Speaker 1: they called me up there and I go up there,
Speaker 1: but I got that song. I got other songs, but
Speaker 1: I had that song. When they heard that song, they said,
Speaker 1: oh this is a smash. Now this is probably like
Speaker 1: a year a year and a half before it even
Speaker 1: came out. But that's how I was able to position
Speaker 1: myself from getting dropped to finding myself to finding you know,
Speaker 1: some footing and having you know, some you know, some help,
Speaker 1: you know, because that that call was was very, very,
Speaker 1: very a lot of calculated phone calls, calculated steps, a
Speaker 1: lot confidence in yourself, believing in yourself to position yourself
Speaker 1: and have leverage.
Speaker 6: But real quick just for the audience, because I think
Speaker 6: a lot of times people confuse how record works, like
Speaker 6: a hit record, like you said you had high Hater
Speaker 6: in the clip like way before it came out. And
Speaker 6: you know, even today, you'll hear a record like a
Speaker 6: long like early on and then it comes out like
Speaker 6: a year or two later. Can you explain that process,
Speaker 6: because I think a lot of people get confused with that.
Speaker 4: It's about positioning.
Speaker 1: I knew when I had that record, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was hearing different things, right. I remember a DJ
Speaker 1: at New York was like, man, it's cool, it's like
Speaker 1: a mixed your record. I remember Kim telling me. I
Speaker 1: remember Kim telling me, Yo, you need to you need
Speaker 1: to throw that out there. But I knew if I
Speaker 1: threw it out there, I know I had, I had,
Speaker 1: I had, you see, I'm I'm a person I like
Speaker 1: to learn, right. I remember a buster told me, he said,
Speaker 1: a record with no no plan and no resources, it's
Speaker 1: not a record at all. Right, you can sonically it's gonna.
Speaker 4: Sound like.
Speaker 3: Come in or go and stay out.
Speaker 1: Come on, He's telling the Sonically it's gonna sound like
Speaker 1: you like you're gonna be in your car, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest record up ever, how you doing,
Speaker 1: how you're doing, how you feeling, you know, And the
Speaker 1: thing is without without the plan, without the resources, without
Speaker 1: all these things, it's just it's just a dope.
Speaker 4: Record for you, for you, for you and your people
Speaker 4: to enjoy. So I knew that.
Speaker 1: So I kept it because I knew I didn't want
Speaker 1: to just throw it out there and just it just
Speaker 1: be lost, you know, So I know I needed some muscle.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more of the ball Alert Show.
Speaker 2: You're listening to a special edition of The Baller Alert.
Speaker 4: Show, and it was popping.
Speaker 1: It's your boy, mano, and right now you tune into
Speaker 1: the ball Alert Show real quickly.
Speaker 6: You mentioned Kim a lot, and you know, the most
Speaker 6: pivotal times as far as getting your career started. What
Speaker 6: was the role that she played in your life at
Speaker 6: that time, because it seems very important.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was. I was kind of like
Speaker 1: in her camp, right, you know, we had our own thing.
Speaker 1: We was hustle hard, you know, we had I had,
Speaker 1: you know, the streets, so to speak, right, I had.
Speaker 1: I was was very important in my neighborhood and very
Speaker 1: influential where I come from. Me and my God, So
Speaker 1: we had that, you know, but Kim is this is
Speaker 1: this is a superstar, right and you know us us
Speaker 1: coming around her, you know, it was it was it helped.
Speaker 1: It helped me to, for one, to open up my mind, right,
Speaker 1: first time I ever been on a lead yet be
Speaker 1: flying out in Miami.
Speaker 4: And that's how I was able.
Speaker 1: To make rumors because there was rumors that I was
Speaker 1: hearing while I was in Miami. And I came back
Speaker 1: like I just came back from Miami, right. So the
Speaker 1: thing it was like she didn't have to she didn't
Speaker 1: have to do nothing for me.
Speaker 6: That was enough, right, Just she ain't get a part
Speaker 6: of the experience and learn to get.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying, Like a lot of times
Speaker 1: artists want you to do things for them all the time.
Speaker 1: I didn't need that. So quick, quick, quick scenario. We
Speaker 1: was down there working on her album Naked Truth. Two
Speaker 1: days go by. I'm noticing that she not in the
Speaker 1: studio early on, and only the engineers in there. So
Speaker 1: the engineers sitting there board, she and the crib, all
Speaker 1: of the other guys that's helping the writing and all that,
Speaker 1: they all in the crib with her. So I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I go to gen Nelson. I'm like, yo, Look, nobody
Speaker 1: in the studio working. Can I go in at like
Speaker 1: ten eleven o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 4: He like sure.
Speaker 1: So this is what I'm saying. This is me taking
Speaker 1: the initiative. This is me saying, look, I want it.
Speaker 1: I want it bad bad enough. I'm good with you
Speaker 1: being around, but I'm willing to work for myself.
Speaker 4: And that was always my attitude. Question. How is Mayo
Speaker 4: at this time when you got this song, the high
Speaker 4: Hater song and.
Speaker 1: The clip you get the deal and it's not coming
Speaker 1: out yet, How does may not stay out of trouble?
Speaker 4: Because remember, right right, right right, big dog, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, You did time, and I know people
Speaker 1: may look to you to be that guy from the
Speaker 1: past and they're not looking at the rapper part that
Speaker 1: you're trying to indeed achieve. That was always something at
Speaker 1: the highest level. How do you how did you stay
Speaker 1: out of the way or stay out of trouble or
Speaker 1: stay low with moving around correctly? Just got to do
Speaker 1: it because I know that's difficult. It is difficult. It
Speaker 1: was always always, you know, the the idea of trying
Speaker 1: to tee the tot up on the streets, you know,
Speaker 1: and certain issues that you still may have in the street,
Speaker 1: you know. And it was it was things that I
Speaker 1: still was dealing with in the street, you know that
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to tend to. Right, It's kind
Speaker 1: of things that I wanted to finish. But what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I got an opportunity of a lifetime, right Like,
Speaker 1: this is what we this is what we we dreamed about.
Speaker 1: This is everything that I was talking about while I
Speaker 1: was in prison. I'm saying when I got out, I'm
Speaker 1: telling my guys, we could do this. We really who
Speaker 1: we say we are? Everybody else faking we really that,
Speaker 1: so we could really go do this. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: I would like to say, it's having a strong, strong
Speaker 1: support system of people around you. And know, yes, man,
Speaker 1: the guys who I call my brothers loved me so
Speaker 1: much that, man, I don't want to see, Nah, we're
Speaker 1: doing this. Fuck that them issues and whatever you wanted
Speaker 1: tend to you know what I mean, Because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not I'm like I'm like a guy that
Speaker 1: kind of like.
Speaker 4: Don't take the high road.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, like with things like if it's
Speaker 1: like something that was lingering. I'd be like the first
Speaker 1: to like address it, like I don't like, you know,
Speaker 1: be like I ain't gonna say nothing, like nah, I
Speaker 1: want to talk like that.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get right to it.
Speaker 1: So, you know, there's things that happening in the hood,
Speaker 1: and you know, stuff that was going on, and you know,
Speaker 1: on at the same time that I was trying to
Speaker 1: get in the industry. You know, I had to just
Speaker 1: kind of like fall back from that because I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity that you know, it would being counter productive,
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of like like, we did all
Speaker 1: this work and you're just gonna go fall victim of that,
Speaker 1: you dumb.
Speaker 6: A lot of people nowadays are especially a lot of
Speaker 6: street guys, are kind of denouncing that culture today.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that.
Speaker 6: And what is your take on that you're saying, Like,
Speaker 6: like for as far as like fifty saying I'm not ganggang,
Speaker 6: I do not gang bang.
Speaker 3: You know you got fat Joe, we do not that stuff.
Speaker 1: You couldn't build the jail high enough for the lyrics
Speaker 1: I've said on.
Speaker 4: Songs which are all untrue.
Speaker 1: That's right, because guess what what was music? Music was
Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to get away from that. Let's
Speaker 1: keep it real. This is the true narrative. If we're
Speaker 1: gonna tell the story, let's tell it the real way,
Speaker 1: right like and like what I look like having an
Speaker 1: opportunity and then flucking it off just because I wonder
Speaker 1: what Keep it real? Keep it you gonna keep it
Speaker 1: so real, you don't keep it dumb, and you beat it.
Speaker 1: You beat the nigga that niggas talk about in past tense.
Speaker 1: Man Mana was a real nigga, man, but he crashed out.
Speaker 1: Damn Mano was a real nigga, but Damn man man
Speaker 1: we just came back from his weight, Like, like, come on,
Speaker 1: like this music. I hate to see artists getting to
Speaker 1: the game, become artists and then either go to prison
Speaker 1: for the rest of their.
Speaker 4: Life or die. I hate that. I hate that.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, we went through all these hurdles, all
Speaker 1: these issues with other other black men, all these all
Speaker 1: these these these these these these tribulations. Right to get
Speaker 1: out of the street, to get into a corporate environment.
Speaker 1: That's this music business where we can really like sail away, right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: Just to die like like you never left.
Speaker 5: But do you think that comes from artists not being
Speaker 5: able to tell the difference between like this is a
Speaker 5: business and this is the streets, and we're gonna put
Speaker 5: this together.
Speaker 1: I don't think artists actually get that. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of times we're keeping it too real. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of artists they don't know the difference. And I
Speaker 1: think that they think this is the way to go
Speaker 1: about it, right, you know, And they already come in
Speaker 1: with affiliations and issues, and they come in with the
Speaker 1: beef already. But at the same time, what I like
Speaker 1: to tell them when I run into the young niggas
Speaker 1: from my city, I tell them, I say, look, in
Speaker 1: my eyes, opportunity is greater than the problem. I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to preach to you, my nigga, but like, look
Speaker 1: at the opportunity you got right now, right now, Like
Speaker 1: I was sixteen fifteen, Like there was no opportunity.
Speaker 4: Nigga had a crack, had a gun and crack for me.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because I love a good
Speaker 1: New York og Hustler documentary, and you saw all of
Speaker 1: them in real time. I saw you posted one or
Speaker 1: two here and there is that where a lot of
Speaker 1: people from New York got the style because I seen, like, man,
Speaker 1: I just looked at those old pictures man, and.
Speaker 4: They had that gear on.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: We fly, Man, Man fly like you still fly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying, like, did the big you know,
Speaker 1: the big dogs back in the day that deal with
Speaker 1: they dance? Did that influence a lot of the fashion
Speaker 1: that we see absolutely carrying on now? Absolutely when you
Speaker 1: look at like somebody like that. But then I know,
Speaker 1: y'all know who that is, right, You see you went
Speaker 1: and did that deal with Gucci and all that, which
Speaker 1: was tremendous because back in the days he was you know,
Speaker 1: he was taking the Gucci print and putting it on
Speaker 1: like the laws and putting it on different things, and
Speaker 1: it was dope. And all of the street hustlers and
Speaker 1: all of the older guys that was getting money was
Speaker 1: wearing that, right, So it was like it influenced the
Speaker 1: like we I mean, look, we influenced culture.
Speaker 4: We influenced the world.
Speaker 1: Our culture, right what we do how we take nikes
Speaker 1: and and wearing with the laces opened a little bit,
Speaker 1: and you know, we go back to one DMC, how
Speaker 1: they was wearing with no laces and all that, like
Speaker 1: we influenced the world really what we do from the hood,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, definitely. How do you feel about
Speaker 1: New York state of music right now?
Speaker 4: I love it though. I love the fact.
Speaker 1: That that the young boys was able to come with
Speaker 1: a sound.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: For a long time, they were saying New York didn't
Speaker 1: have no identity, right, that we kind of lost our way,
Speaker 1: you know, we was heavily influenced by it South, heavily
Speaker 1: influenced by other places. And then and then you know,
Speaker 1: the younger guys came with this, with this sound, with
Speaker 1: this drill, you know which I was. I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was applauding that because we didn't kind of it
Speaker 1: gave us.
Speaker 4: An identity that we didn't have in a long time.
Speaker 1: Now, I just want to see them start to individualize
Speaker 1: themselves a lot more instead of everybody trying to sound
Speaker 1: exactly the same on every record.
Speaker 4: He understands, So that's the only thing with that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, look, I love my city and
Speaker 1: I love the fact that we're still here. When you
Speaker 1: think of, you know, New York artists, we still got
Speaker 1: some of the biggest in the game. You know, people
Speaker 1: forget you know, Nikki from New York. You know, French
Speaker 1: is from New York, you understand. So you know, we
Speaker 1: still got some of the biggest in the game right now.
Speaker 3: Speaking of New York, they also had their love and
Speaker 3: hip hop New York.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did a little something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how'd you get on that?
Speaker 1: They had wanted me for a long time. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of activity. I had a lot
Speaker 1: of activity. I'll get what you're saying, you understand. And
Speaker 1: early on, early on the first season, the first season,
Speaker 1: the first season, I was cool with Olivia. It was
Speaker 1: cool right and singer sing right, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was half an hour back then. I remember the first
Speaker 1: I remember the morning she went to go do it right,
Speaker 1: like she had told me about it, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't cool. And then she did it and came on.
Speaker 1: And then that second season, I was approached to come
Speaker 1: on to do a scene and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I shot one scene that they never really used.
Speaker 1: This is back then. I shot a scene with her
Speaker 1: that they it was it was like in a bowling alley.
Speaker 1: I think they only used it like online.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I was like, now I'm cool, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And so for so time, would
Speaker 1: you know, time will go by. They would always come
Speaker 1: ask me, you know, you know, come on. I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: ain't going on, no love and hip hop.
Speaker 4: I'm going on.
Speaker 1: And then at the time that I went on, I
Speaker 1: really had I was really in the relationship and in
Speaker 1: the relationship she had things going on that I felt
Speaker 1: like she could use. So I was like, yo, if
Speaker 1: you go on love and hip hop, it can help you, right.
Speaker 1: So they came to me and I was like, ye,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put her on there, but I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not coming on. And they was like, well, Mona said,
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna do her without you. So I said,
Speaker 1: I want this number right here, and the number for
Speaker 1: Love and hip Hop was pretty outrageous, and she was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: If we could do that, but maybe, you know.
Speaker 1: And it came back and it was like, nah, were
Speaker 1: close to it, and I was like, nah, I still
Speaker 1: ain't doing it. And then she came back and she
Speaker 1: said we could do the number. I said, oh, I said,
Speaker 1: So then I'm like at this point, I mean like,
Speaker 1: let's get it.
Speaker 4: I gotta do do something, you know.
Speaker 1: So the thing is, though they only pay you for
Speaker 1: the episodes that you that actually come out, you know.
Speaker 1: So the bag that I thought I was gonna slick though,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna shoot all this and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make it right. But you only get paid for
Speaker 1: whatever come out.
Speaker 4: But whatever come out.
Speaker 1: So I only was on I only was on maybe
Speaker 1: like seven or eight episode's people.
Speaker 4: Nah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was good because at the number that I was at,
Speaker 1: it was good, you know, based off of what they
Speaker 1: paying everybody else, right, you know, you had people on
Speaker 1: there for like like fifteen twenty five hundred.
Speaker 4: It was like that bad. So the number that I
Speaker 4: was at, yeah, I was like, yeah, it was better.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: That was still at a time when love and hip
Speaker 6: hop was like everybody was watching it faithfully.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure that it introduced a new audience to you.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. The thing about it, I never
Speaker 1: watched it, I never promoted it.
Speaker 4: I never nothing.
Speaker 1: Because the thing was, I think the mistake that a
Speaker 1: lot of people was making when it came to those
Speaker 1: reality shows, the ones that had dreams of being artists,
Speaker 1: was that that they was gonna get on this this
Speaker 1: show and it.
Speaker 4: Was gonna pop off their music career. Not true. The
Speaker 4: show was the show.
Speaker 1: People watching the show, they want to be entertained in
Speaker 1: the show kind of way. They may know you as
Speaker 1: an artist, but that doesn't make them a fan of
Speaker 1: your music and drama. Right, this is something totally different.
Speaker 1: I want to Yeah, they want see fights and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. They want to see TV.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: I didn't go in there and thinking it was gonna
Speaker 1: help my music career. I had already understood.
Speaker 4: And I was.
Speaker 1: I was at Mona house one day and we had
Speaker 1: a conversation she and I was like, yeah, we watched
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 4: She said, no, my kids don't watch the show. Kids
Speaker 4: don't watch the show. I don't watch the show, so
Speaker 4: you don't watch the show. That's crazy. My husband don't
Speaker 4: watch the show, so your husband don't watch the show.
Speaker 4: So who watched the show. We don't watch the show.
Speaker 1: It's just business. It's just business. I said, Oh, and
Speaker 1: I learned this.
Speaker 4: It's just business. So I went and did my episodes
Speaker 4: and kept it moving. Business didn't talk about it. I
Speaker 4: didn't watch it. I didn't I didn't put on my page,
Speaker 4: I didn't put link it.
Speaker 3: Was and you may not have promoted. But when I
Speaker 3: say new audience.
Speaker 6: You know, there may have been other your followers may
Speaker 6: be being up a certain way.
Speaker 1: You know, you did have people that didn't that kind
Speaker 1: of wasn't connected with me, that knew me, you know,
Speaker 1: like oh I saw you on you know, which is cool.
Speaker 4: But again, did that make them fans of the music?
Speaker 6: It didn't, right, right, They just made you fans of
Speaker 6: the person. The person, yeah, and your girl at the time.
Speaker 6: But you know, then the pandemic hit and then you
Speaker 6: had this bright idea to do a podcast us about
Speaker 6: it was in the kitchen, kitchen talking you had a chef,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 4: I was like that, look good man, Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 3: Everybody congregates in the kitchen when they come over.
Speaker 1: That's what We had a lot of conversations that when
Speaker 1: we do that, we go in the house, in the
Speaker 1: kitchen where the came from.
Speaker 4: Just from from that.
Speaker 1: So we was on the pandemic and you remember, like
Speaker 1: everybody was getting pepe PPP's and I was like, I
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: turn this into some money and all that, right, So I.
Speaker 3: Was like, that's a hard entertainment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hustling hard, right.
Speaker 1: So the first thing I did was I went and
Speaker 1: bought all this studio equipment because I was like, everybody
Speaker 1: getting money now, everybody people calling for verses. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I need to figure out how to engineer
Speaker 1: because the studios is shut down, right, we ain't going
Speaker 1: in the studio no more.
Speaker 4: And then we.
Speaker 1: Getting calls about doing a versus for were selling versus.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, cool, I got the equipment,
Speaker 1: my engineers showed me how to engineer.
Speaker 4: And that was my first business venture.
Speaker 1: I was in there doing two or three features a week, myself,
Speaker 1: punching in yo right here right, I'm doing that myself.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, yo, look we should do
Speaker 1: a podcast.
Speaker 4: Man. We could do it right in the kitchen and
Speaker 4: we could call it kitchen talk, right.
Speaker 1: And the reason I felt like that was like kitchen talk,
Speaker 1: like because even in the street first place, you gotta
Speaker 1: go to the kitchen.
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna get it together and then we're
Speaker 4: gonna go outside. Right.
Speaker 1: And I went and I bought more equipment. You know,
Speaker 1: had bought Mike's and you know, and and a and
Speaker 1: a and a you know, a little board and all
Speaker 1: the board. Like, I went and bought all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I started to invest into this stuff, right, and then
Speaker 1: we started shooting. I ain't know what I was doing,
Speaker 1: but I was learning as I go, you know.
Speaker 3: And and then it became you know, you had real
Speaker 3: good you had on there.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of people on there, man, oh man,
Speaker 1: I had the mayor on there. I've had But what happened,
Speaker 1: What happened with that is that I it had got
Speaker 1: so good. I had got up to maybe like sixty
Speaker 1: something episodes, and then I got approached to do put
Speaker 1: put the show on Fox Soul. So when I when
Speaker 1: I put it on Fox Soul, it was good for
Speaker 1: me because it.
Speaker 4: Was like a nice check.
Speaker 1: But then it's like, Okay, they paying me to do
Speaker 1: twelve episodes at a time, and it's seasonal, so not consistent,
Speaker 1: like right, so it's like write, like now, whenever they
Speaker 1: want to do another season, I'll go get it.
Speaker 4: Nigga, give me my six figures, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: When did my guy Jim Jones come into play? Did
Speaker 1: you guys start working out together or like or you
Speaker 1: all you guys were always friends. Me and Jim early
Speaker 1: on didn't even like each other, right, but why we
Speaker 1: ain't even know, we ain't know.
Speaker 4: First of all, is it a harm. It wasn't really
Speaker 4: Harlem Brooklyn thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he he was cool with a
Speaker 1: lot of dudes from from Brooklyn, and I was cool
Speaker 1: with people from Harlem, So it wasn't that. It was
Speaker 1: just that, I don't know, we didn't know each other.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you can read a book the wrong the
Speaker 1: wrong way, right, and he, you know, I would see
Speaker 1: him with a hundred dudes, see this nigga coming in here,
Speaker 1: like like the way he looked at so you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't like we we kind of like each other.
Speaker 1: And then and then we got cool, right once we talked.
Speaker 1: Once we talked, we clicked and we started doing music together,
Speaker 1: right started you know, pulling up you know, and then
Speaker 1: we just you know, curated a relationship, you know, over.
Speaker 4: Time and years ago.
Speaker 1: He had a line where he was like, man, shout
Speaker 1: out to the Bugatti boys, but me and may know
Speaker 1: we the lobby boys, right, And this was years ago,
Speaker 1: and we always talked about doing the album together, you know,
Speaker 1: but we had never you know how it's hard to
Speaker 1: get too artists on the same page at the same time.
Speaker 3: Right, you know.
Speaker 4: Together, know what I'm saying, so, you know, it was
Speaker 4: hard to do that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, over time we just started connecting and then
Speaker 1: it happened, you know, and it started to happen, and
Speaker 1: then we did the first Lobby Boys. Now we're on
Speaker 1: the second one.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we tour dates. Yeah, actually, yep, it happened.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're excited to see that.
Speaker 6: Another thing that you did around like twenty one was
Speaker 6: a Chelsea's House, that's the family.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just told me how to come over there
Speaker 1: South Yeah, Chelsea house, you know, delicious, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and a lot of I was telling you a lot
Speaker 1: of people here Chelsea's House because in Chelsea Chelsea is
Speaker 1: an area in Manhattan.
Speaker 4: So it's special about Chelsea Chelsea Manhattan.
Speaker 1: It's just a cool area. Like it's cool. It's it's
Speaker 1: a little vibe. Especially in the summertime. See everybody everybody
Speaker 1: from here, like they come they come to New York.
Speaker 4: It's like all the rats, all of the rats, so
Speaker 4: so cool. You got you got a lot of rats.
Speaker 4: But in the summertime, New York is lit, like you know,
Speaker 4: everybody in the summertimes, New York is lit.
Speaker 5: And I haven't seen a big rat in New York
Speaker 5: when I when I went, you had I haven't I
Speaker 5: haven't seen no big rat.
Speaker 4: Where was you at? Sure you was in New York City? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was in Manhattan. You didn't see no rats. I
Speaker 4: didn't see no rat. That's what's up. I wasn't looking
Speaker 4: for him either. Now they look, they usually look.
Speaker 3: For you and you have two locations.
Speaker 1: Now, well yeah we had well we we had an
Speaker 1: issue with the with the landlord because the second location
Speaker 1: was like a it was turned into like a club.
Speaker 4: Where was the second location that it was?
Speaker 1: It was in Manhattan, Bucers on the upper It was
Speaker 1: on the Upper west side right, So they were like
Speaker 1: all these people coming in.
Speaker 4: Here ya your triple park like police coming here. So
Speaker 4: it was like double park, triple parking like literally was crazy.
Speaker 4: We was going crazy.
Speaker 1: So it was that was happening. So we find in
Speaker 1: another location for the second one. You know, I was
Speaker 1: only a lot of a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: homies came there from there. I had Monica pull up
Speaker 1: down there, you know, said the dog, you know, free
Speaker 1: thug gunning and been there future been there. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of a lot of homies
Speaker 1: from from Atlanta, been there.
Speaker 3: We got to make our with.
Speaker 1: You go you have a song? Yeah, yeah, the whole
Speaker 1: video a minute was holding. We just talked about that
Speaker 1: when the music time listen though, right, Ye said for sure? Right,
Speaker 1: So so before the around the time of the pandemic
Speaker 1: or maybe like right before that, me and Thug I
Speaker 1: did the song and then we shot the video in
Speaker 1: La that's f.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Doug has blond hair and I'm over here
Speaker 4: like this has been from a couple of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a minute that sound though, no sound on
Speaker 1: the yeah on the novel.
Speaker 3: Is Maino Day?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: You sixteenth?
Speaker 6: Congratulations you play.
Speaker 4: You know they needed to play.
Speaker 1: They need to take like journalists because you go some
Speaker 1: places sometimes and they don't know, they don't do no
Speaker 1: type of research. I'll be doing interviews sometimes and I
Speaker 1: go get up there and I do a little research
Speaker 1: just like that.
Speaker 3: You know, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 6: But you had a lot of you have a lot
Speaker 6: in life that you have accomplished, and this is one
Speaker 6: that is super big for Maino Day, which is August sixteenth.
Speaker 6: I'm not too far away from your birthday, but will
Speaker 6: you do anything special because I know, like for angela
Speaker 6: Ye Day, she does a lot, But for.
Speaker 3: Your day, what do you have going on?
Speaker 1: So first of all, that's my mother's birthday, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: My mom's birthday. Right. My mom's here, right.
Speaker 1: And so that's special in itself. So I get to,
Speaker 1: you know, celebrate her birthday, you know, do something special
Speaker 1: for her, you know she's not here no more. And
Speaker 1: at the same time, do something special in the hood.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: I want to already put my permits in the block
Speaker 1: off two streets, right, We're gonna do this big block party.
Speaker 1: I want to have some stuff going on for the community,
Speaker 1: have some vendors down there, you know, you know, and
Speaker 1: and have some information.
Speaker 4: Man, I feel like the hood lack information. You need information.
Speaker 1: We needed to start having information about real estate and
Speaker 1: you know in the smaller things like the hood need
Speaker 1: healthcare and like that. And I've seen something the other
Speaker 1: day that was real profound to me. Man, it was
Speaker 1: I should have rep but I didn't. I've seen a
Speaker 1: dude say, man, everybody talking about Man, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: leave my kids something. I'm trying to leave my kids something. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm hustling so I can leave my kids something. He said, Nigga,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is get fucking life insurance.
Speaker 4: Leave the kids something.
Speaker 1: And then when you think about that though, right, that's
Speaker 1: it's something to that, right, like it's we all want
Speaker 1: to leave our kids something. We all want to have
Speaker 1: this grand you know fortune, you understand, but you know,
Speaker 1: but we still should position ourselves whether we have that
Speaker 1: fortune or not, we should still do certain things.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying. It's the information, right, It's
Speaker 4: just that simple. Right. We grew up in the hood.
Speaker 4: Nobody be telling us nothing.
Speaker 1: We gotta figure everything be as low as twenty dollars
Speaker 1: a month, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But that's information that we lack. Information that we lack.
Speaker 3: Speaking the kids, is that some of the things that
Speaker 3: you share with your.
Speaker 1: Son absolutely some twenty one. Now, I'm fucking believing.
Speaker 4: Man, he can party with you, he do with you.
Speaker 4: I'll be having him everywhere. He didn't been all over
Speaker 4: with me, y'all take them all the country. He been.
Speaker 4: Oh man, Sometimes I look at him.
Speaker 1: He was in l a one time and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I look over and we're not even in the strip
Speaker 1: club and the girl was just busting it open on him,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh, my god, I'm a bad father, Like.
Speaker 4: Like this is crazy, man. Yeah, yes, because it's baby
Speaker 4: boy at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the thing, so my philosophy was I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: him out with me so that he can learn how
Speaker 1: to do these things because he coming to an age
Speaker 1: with you know, you're getting around seven to eighteen. You
Speaker 1: want to explore, you want to start hanging out with
Speaker 1: you at homie, start meeting girls, going to parties and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 4: I felt like it was a way to do that.
Speaker 1: It's a way to be safe to do that, right,
Speaker 1: It's an etiquette at partying, right, It's a way to
Speaker 1: make sure you get home safe and everybody is safe.
Speaker 4: So come out with me. Let me show you how
Speaker 4: to do popes right.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm like it might being a father him
Speaker 1: from being a homeboy, Like I'm just.
Speaker 4: Like his homie, Like I don't understand, Like what's going on.
Speaker 3: That's kind of parent right, it's crazy grow with your.
Speaker 1: Kids, right, And the girls be coming around and be like,
Speaker 1: ain't your son. I'm like what, so I say, either
Speaker 1: I'm too young or I look too young, you look
Speaker 1: too old?
Speaker 4: What's happening? What we're doing? Like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I look this good, nigga, what's up?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's cool because he get the we
Speaker 1: we just got a dope relationship. And I say to him, man,
Speaker 1: I wish I had the opportunity to have a relationship
Speaker 1: with my father like this.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I wish I could have been like a grown man
Speaker 1: and and like talk to.
Speaker 6: My pops like you know, that would motivate you to
Speaker 6: stay present in his life, you know, throughout his whole life.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, man like absolutely, like you know, you know, kids
Speaker 1: focus you up. You know what I remember I was
Speaker 1: telling my son was born, I still was in prison,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I got three more months, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, I got to get it together.
Speaker 1: You know, we could go full steam ahead in the streets.
Speaker 1: But I was like, look, man, music, let me at
Speaker 1: least get at a trial. Let me at least get
Speaker 1: at a real try. If it don't work, then whatever,
Speaker 1: but let me at least give it a real try.
Speaker 1: And you know, having a son, it just makes you
Speaker 1: kind of like get it together because you got somebody
Speaker 1: that needs you, you know, and it's different.
Speaker 6: What made you want to stop there? Because you know,
Speaker 6: a lot of rappers be having kids.
Speaker 4: Now twelve kids. I got two years. I got a
Speaker 4: daughter too. Yeah yeah, so she's eleven.
Speaker 1: I just came back from Vegas and she she plays
Speaker 1: all these sports right, like, man, she's like a child
Speaker 1: pro protege, right prodigy. She plays the flute, she's uh,
Speaker 1: she's she's played soccer, she's doing tennis.
Speaker 4: Well. Her number one sport is volleyball.
Speaker 1: So I just came back from Vegas from her volleyball tournaments.
Speaker 4: That's what's her. They was playing like seven eight games
Speaker 4: a day.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: You know, I had a new respect for volleyballs, Like
Speaker 1: I wanted to get out there and play.
Speaker 4: I'm want there and I'm like embarrassing though, like I'm.
Speaker 1: Out there going yeah yeah, let's goat yeah yeah. Every
Speaker 1: time she hit the ball and to get it and
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and I'm like I'm ready to run
Speaker 1: out there. And her mom's like, yo, please, you don't
Speaker 1: embarrass something, man, and she telling me this is a
Speaker 1: social suicide, like.
Speaker 4: Too much, Like I love it.
Speaker 3: Did you want any more kids or you're done?
Speaker 1: Sometimes I do I'm like yeah no, yeah, maybe nah,
Speaker 1: I don't want no kids.
Speaker 4: Nothing to go man, Maybe you know.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's up and down and a lot
Speaker 1: of that depends on who you're with at the time
Speaker 1: in your life, you know what I mean, Because the
Speaker 1: right person to make you do whatever right. You know,
Speaker 1: you say no to one thing, but then you find
Speaker 1: the right person. It's like, man, she might get ten.
Speaker 3: Has anybody made you feel like that?
Speaker 4: Nah? Not not not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1: I'm open to it though, Okay, I'm open to it.
Speaker 1: You know, make me feel something, baby makes me feel
Speaker 1: so may know a single.
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm single, but I'll be like trying things out,
Speaker 4: you know, less people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Like, you know, speaking of try things out, We'll go
Speaker 6: back to Way Up with you.
Speaker 3: You tried that.
Speaker 6: Out and you are like a regular and it is
Speaker 6: fascinating to see to hear you on there because you
Speaker 6: be going in on people.
Speaker 4: First of all, I got to say pause and trying
Speaker 4: things out? Right, that sounded crazy things out could be
Speaker 4: because it's a pause. Ever right now, that was New York.
Speaker 3: I didn't. That wasn't That wasn't a man's in there
Speaker 3: is like, yeah, that.
Speaker 4: Was the pause pause clip. But listen.
Speaker 1: The Way Up that show because the thing people be
Speaker 1: calling up there with stupidness.
Speaker 4: Man, It's like, why would you call up here?
Speaker 1: You sound let you know it be wow.
Speaker 4: People making it up.
Speaker 1: I ain't making this up, like people really calling it
Speaker 1: talking crazy, talking about yo.
Speaker 4: I slipt with this one and you know I slept
Speaker 4: with that one.
Speaker 1: And one girl said she had what she she said
Speaker 1: she had sex with how many dudes? And one year
Speaker 1: I forgot the numb It was just ridiculous. Like I'm
Speaker 1: just like, wow, and I don't want judge, like because
Speaker 1: I ain't nobody to be judging nobody, like I ain't
Speaker 1: no greater than no other human. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm just like you calling up here for a reason.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you're looking for advice right right? You just
Speaker 1: don't want to just say this. You want somebody to
Speaker 1: tell you.
Speaker 3: Something, you know, and you be telling them, you be
Speaker 3: letting them know.
Speaker 6: Speaking of the current events, Man, a lot of people
Speaker 6: are letting did he have it?
Speaker 3: Right now? What is your take on all that's going
Speaker 3: on with him?
Speaker 1: I want to see more than just these accusations. Man,
Speaker 1: I've been lied on. I mean, I hadn't been in
Speaker 1: a situation where people said things things been taken out
Speaker 1: of context. What is what we're talking about is what
Speaker 1: is he? Is he being accused of?
Speaker 4: Of? What?
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure, Like I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I want to see more, Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: just condemn somebody, you know, just based off of what
Speaker 1: popular you know, uh belief is.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean ship, I might be a freak.
Speaker 1: I might like to do, you know, crazy things with
Speaker 1: my girl or whatever, but you know whatever that is
Speaker 1: right at the same time, we're talking about crimes, like
Speaker 1: what's what's the crime?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to jump on the bandwagon
Speaker 1: and just be like, oh, you know, this person did
Speaker 1: this and he did this because this is what the
Speaker 1: news is saying, or you know, then we're talking about
Speaker 1: these people making these accusations. You got some dude named
Speaker 1: Little Rod. First of all, that should be a fucking
Speaker 1: pause on his name, like nick Na, Like.
Speaker 4: How you name little Rod?
Speaker 1: Like that's your name, Little Rod?
Speaker 4: That's wow, that's pause for real?
Speaker 3: It could be sure for Rodney.
Speaker 4: That should be no didty right? Wait?
Speaker 5: Do you do you think it's like agenda to destroy?
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go I'm lean, I'm gonna lean
Speaker 1: on that because I feel like it's so easy for
Speaker 1: us to just be pushed in this direction.
Speaker 4: Right, It's so easy. All it takes is.
Speaker 1: You know the media, and if you know anything about
Speaker 1: you know, the sixties. And I hate to get all
Speaker 1: like this, but if you know anything about the sixties
Speaker 1: and what they did with black leadership and all that,
Speaker 1: these were some of the tactics right to destroy you. Basically,
Speaker 1: they divide and concoct. There you go, right, so cointel
Speaker 1: pro what they would do us. They will put out misinformation,
Speaker 1: have us looking at each other, right. They sending out
Speaker 1: letters and sending out things saying you know this one
Speaker 1: talking about that one, this one got caught doing this, right,
Speaker 1: and it keeps us dis organized, right, and also propaganda
Speaker 1: which is fed few through the media.
Speaker 4: It's a tool that's always been used. Media controls them,
Speaker 4: is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm not quick to jump at what everybody else
Speaker 1: is running running towards like because if you ask the
Speaker 1: average person, it's like what you think he did?
Speaker 4: He's like, I he did something I don't know, like
Speaker 4: he you know what I mean? He was sex trafficking.
Speaker 4: What sex?
Speaker 1: They got to give me a clear definition of what
Speaker 1: sex trafficking is. So you're saying he was what he
Speaker 1: was making people sell their body, Like I'm saying, is
Speaker 1: it under eight? Like it's not clear to me. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not jumping in that at all, especially
Speaker 1: with a little with a name with a nigga name,
Speaker 1: little rod Like.
Speaker 4: That's.
Speaker 6: Is your name?
Speaker 4: Little pause? Oh that's a note? Did he did? Nigga?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: What your name, Little rod.
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 6: Speaking of trends, another trend that Juvenile is kind of
Speaker 6: starting now is uh making old mute from videos new
Speaker 6: videos to it?
Speaker 3: Would you do that?
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that today. Word that's crazy. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I was thinking about it this morning
Speaker 1: on the way on the way here.
Speaker 4: That would be dope.
Speaker 1: That would be dope, like just doing it. I like
Speaker 1: the game because you could just do whatever.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Social media, you know, gave us the opportunity to kind
Speaker 1: of like do whatever we want to do. We don't
Speaker 1: got to stay in the realm or just doing things
Speaker 1: just the particular way of you know, I put out
Speaker 1: a project and then you take two videos, like you
Speaker 1: could do whatever you want to do. It's things that
Speaker 1: it's songs that I like three, four, five, six years ago,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, maybe I could whether they was
Speaker 1: popular or not, I liked it. Maybe I could just
Speaker 1: go back and do something like that. You know, so
Speaker 1: I like that.
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Speaker 3: Last current event. You know, Kendrick went in on.
Speaker 4: Talking about who's talking about the Big Three?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Big three and it's kind of shaking up
Speaker 6: hip hop right now?
Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Like that?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I know I listened to it. I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was like so you you chicken, so you
Speaker 1: think what he said? You didn't think it was just like.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, this was the craziest. I didn't think
Speaker 4: it was that crazy. I didn't go, oh ship, he
Speaker 4: just won that drake ass Like.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like the takeover.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I think it was a jab, but I
Speaker 4: don't think it was like it was not crazy.
Speaker 1: It was definitely it was a job. It was definitely
Speaker 1: was a jab, right. I guess he's trying to bake
Speaker 1: Drake to say something.
Speaker 4: On Drake said someone. That's what we basically saying. I
Speaker 4: think they've been both jabbing each other for a long time.
Speaker 1: Small, I don't, but I don't think Drake, you don't think.
Speaker 1: You don't think so not like Kendrick can rap. But
Speaker 1: Drake is an overall artist.
Speaker 3: Right as far as hits go, hits.
Speaker 1: Right, hits that that we all like, right, you know
Speaker 1: this dance ship on this some ship that that we
Speaker 1: like in.
Speaker 6: The street like most Death said, like you can play
Speaker 6: this you hear it in the.
Speaker 5: Shopping Yeah, that was that was crazy that that was
Speaker 5: a shot though, Like I ain't really nah, that.
Speaker 4: Was a shot. The thing is this, Drake make dope music.
Speaker 1: Right, Let's not act like he don't make music that
Speaker 1: we're not playing in the club.
Speaker 4: Fact, let's playing it everywhere.
Speaker 1: You can say whatever the fuck you want to say
Speaker 1: about Oh it's in the it's in Walmart and all that.
Speaker 1: It's in the club. Though we like to be I
Speaker 1: like to be outside. We outside were in the club,
Speaker 1: like we hear Drake music. Right, We had the Chelsea House.
Speaker 1: But Kendrick I don't think. I don't think Kendrick like
Speaker 1: it's like, I think.
Speaker 4: He's a dope rapper.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be spitting his balls and all that,
Speaker 1: and he got and he got hits too. But I
Speaker 1: think if I had to pick, you know, it would
Speaker 1: be Drake.
Speaker 4: If it was yeah, if I had to pick.
Speaker 3: Well, do you do you think?
Speaker 5: Well, they definitely everybody's teaming up against Drake. But what
Speaker 5: it seems like, Well, I think that anytime that you're
Speaker 5: going against somebody, you know, with that level, I think,
Speaker 5: you know, you.
Speaker 4: Kind of got to click up. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 1: I just want to click though what happened because we
Speaker 1: don't really know what they was talking about? And then
Speaker 1: but who is day is? So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Problem with that, the problem right there? Problem right there?
Speaker 1: Who is they like? It's like, oh, because I see
Speaker 1: so I'd be saying ship on say cheese, like where
Speaker 1: did you get?
Speaker 4: Where'd you get this ship from? That's what I be
Speaker 4: wondering too. With the girl.
Speaker 1: Allegedly allegedly but the girl like the girl I go
Speaker 1: to the girl I wanted to, I said, love, let
Speaker 1: me say, maybe I know, like.
Speaker 4: You got.
Speaker 1: Was like, you know, making my round. So I said,
Speaker 1: hold on, I've seen this page before. I'm like, hold up, damn.
Speaker 1: And then I go down page. She got a whole guy, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm like and and I see that with a post.
Speaker 4: She's like, man, I ain't, I ain't huh. I got
Speaker 4: a nigga. Oh but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got a nigga. Me and my nigga is laughing
Speaker 1: about this. That's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: See, so I had a question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so one time for I got MP three wax,
Speaker 1: I got Chris Man for every wax Man.
Speaker 4: What what like I see?
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, is there is there a family? Is this
Speaker 4: like family family? Chris Christen MP three Waves?
Speaker 1: You know they like they standing in between, like you know,
Speaker 1: the DJ side, the artist side.
Speaker 4: They helped piece all those things together.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: He called me ten times in the row one day.
Speaker 1: He was like, I just want to make sure you
Speaker 1: got the main on thumb. Yeah, somebody like that definitely
Speaker 1: need some out having somebody. Imagine I have somebody like that,
Speaker 1: fact imagine it. I wouldn't even be down here. I
Speaker 1: was at the DJ listening session. He called the DJ
Speaker 1: that was standing next to me.
Speaker 4: He will do that. DJ Smack said, for Chris, answer
Speaker 4: your phone when you this. I'm over here, Like god, damn,
Speaker 4: I already sent him to may Nose. Now, people to.
Speaker 1: Know that's not that's family right there. Man three, gotta
Speaker 1: have a christal Man on the squad.
Speaker 4: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: We appreciate you made up for something. Bottle Ball Alert Show.
Speaker 6: You welcome anytime.
Speaker 4: If I made it here, I made it. Yeah, yeah, wow,
Speaker 4: this is the big Ball Alert Show. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I'm just glad we learned so much.
Speaker 6: And I hope everybody else take away something to mainnovations
Speaker 6: because dropping gym today, man, yeah before pau oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: a couple of Rods.
Speaker 4: This is definitely what you're good for. Why would be little.
Speaker 6: Rod like y'all can hear more of this a way
Speaker 6: up because he's definitely on there acting like may know
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, or catch him at the
Speaker 6: clubs or where.
Speaker 1: You Chelsea at the Chelsea House all the time, but
Speaker 1: with the lobby boys you also, Yeah, man, I don't
Speaker 1: know the dates though, we definitely got some shows coming up.
Speaker 4: I gotta look at those dates though, but yeah, we'll
Speaker 4: be in a city near you, all right, man?
Speaker 6: Before we get out of here though, we do need
Speaker 6: a main ovation, so okay, leave us with.
Speaker 4: A pep talk Yoh what's up is your boy? Man on?
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you, like this man, stay
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Speaker 1: feel right now is temporary. Stay down, right, don't make
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