WEBVTT - Episode 318 "NEW MAINO" 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.360 Word with me here you know, b t know how 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.920 it goes, shout out oct no real color what we 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:08.760 see whole game? 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:10.840 Wait the boler blio something. Oh, you can't stand on 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:13.080 their own sole see I already know you can't with 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.480 me because up with the squad of me. They get 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:16.960 at that. They called me. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:25.160 Love he love ball Alert Wether to The Baller Show 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.200 podcasts available everywhere you get your podcasts. Please continue to 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.680 light subscribe to share are YouTube page. One time for 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.880 Revolt TV. I go with the name of Ferrari Simmons. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:35.920 S team with that made up with the billing. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:39.680 You made made what's up? 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:39.920 Sir? 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.080 I made it Ballerlarg's and foremost we appreciate you pulling up. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:44.240 Yeah, it's so good. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.639 This is you know, it's a family Bening's over hell. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.560 Been a big fan of you for a very long time. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.320 I love how you always reinvent yourself. Thank you and 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.120 stay and stay current. That's a very hard thing to do, absolutely, 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.480 because we can we can age out fast and five 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:01.240 six years that's what they really give us. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:03.600 Can can we can we take it back? Though? Can 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:03.880 we go? 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:04.360 Yeah? 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.240 First I want to know where did a new. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.959 Maino that came from. So what happened was, you know, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.039 me and Angela always been tight for years. You know, 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.840 she called me her be her best rapper friend. So 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.160 what happened was I ran into her. She said, Yo, listen, 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.479 ray J is doing it like this little get together 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.039 for me for my new show come by. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.080 I said, bet, I'm gonna pull up. I get there. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.920 It's lit, everybody's having fun and we're chilling. So I 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:33.600 had just it was around Valentine's Day and I had 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:37.120 just dropped the song me and Fat Right and my artist, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.280 the Stop Baby, so it was like a girl's song. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.120 So I was like, you know, I wanted to play it. 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.520 I wanted there was a lot of girls there, so 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.320 Angela and I was like, all right, but let me 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:47.920 let me get it, let me put it on my phone. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.560 And you know, we was drinking, taking shots, so we 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.600 was a little saucy and somebody just said new mano. 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.800 So every time we went to play it, they was 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:01.160 going new MANO, new MANO. So that night she was like, Yo, 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.800 want you come up to the show and guest host 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:03.280 for the week. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.440 I said, bet, I'm gonna come. I'm gonna pull up. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.800 So I pulled up and I walked in. They was like, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.880 new man. Oh, so it just stuck. It just stuck. 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:10.480 It just stuck. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.600 It's just when when she was talking about guest hosts 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:13.760 and it lip service, right. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.240 No, it was the Way Up Show. The way this 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.360 is all about the way. This is all over year ago. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.480 So this is everything to do with the Way Up Show? 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:22.000 Is that new? 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.639 Is that new? Wow? Is that new? And you never 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.239 and then you never left cause you've been never left. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.600 But right, yeah, So what happened was I came for 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.919 that week thinking that like, this is my girl. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.919 It wasn't left like no pressure, right. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.000 I never done radio before other than being an artist 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.200 and promoting what I had gone on. So when I 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.160 get up there, it's like, all right, it's cool. They 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:45.680 was like, you're kind of good at him? You would 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.800 you would you come back? I said, I pull up. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.760 It ain't nothing you my dog, it ain't nothing. You know, Jasmine, 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.160 here we vibing it. We have It's all good. And 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.280 I started to come back and I started to come back, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.480 and then the new MANO and then the fans was saying, 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.880 like we liked when Mayno is on it because I 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.239 wasn't coming every day. But the fans were saying, we 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.520 like when he up there, and they had the segment 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.280 where it was like, it's supposed to be no judgment, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:07.880 I'm judging. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.400 So it was like you became a thing. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:12.919 Calling it. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.880 But we're gonna We're gonna here is rewind a little 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.400 bit before we get all the way to twenty twenty four. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.440 So let's take it all the way back to Brooklyn. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.320 Man is your name really, Mano? My name is your Maine. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:25.200 Got so? 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.160 Mano's a nickname, got it? You know they call me Maine. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.560 You know Maine, Maine Mano. In the neighborhood that I 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.200 come from, right, I'm from bed Star, So that's where 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.080 the BIGGI from. That's Biggie from. All the greats come 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.080 from there. You gotta understand all all of the greats, 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.520 Biggie jay Z, Big Daddy Kane, Fabulous Lo Kim like 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.280 you name it. I'm from there. We're all from different 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:51.320 sections in best style though. So the neighborhood, I'm fronded. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.520 Whatever your name was. If your name was Steve, they 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.320 call you Steve O. Right. If your name is Wayne, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:58.640 they call you Wayno, you know, my nickname is Maine. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:04.680 Andy call me mano. So I mean, you know, ghetto boy, 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.720 you know what I mean, child of ghetto. I caught 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.440 up in the street very early. You know, my story 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.320 is pretty well well known. I went to prison when 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.880 I was around sixteen seventeen. When you know, the ten 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.240 years in prison, I never wrapped the day of my life. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.200 Never thought about music. I never I never had any 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.719 aspirations or dreams to do music. Music was never something 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:32.480 that I ever even fathom. But when I was in 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:34.440 prison and I was going through what I was going through, 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.600 getting trouble in there, you know. You know, one night 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.239 I was just like yo, I was in a box 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.960 twenty three hours locked in. I'm like yo, I'm right 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:46.000 mere rhyme. You know, I liked I felt, you know. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:46.520 And at the. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.520 Time I was like, man, you know, it was like 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.919 Biggie was out and Wu Tang was out, and you know, 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.400 this is this is the nineties. So I was like, man, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.279 what if I go home and come a rapper? And 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.200 I started to play with that thought, like man, what 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:00.560 if what if I did that? Now you got to 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.040 understand it this time, nobody had ever done that before 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.320 before me. It was never nobody to ever done a 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.560 large amount of jail time and come home and become 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.280 an artist, and become home and have any bit of 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.920 of platinum success or anything. I had nobody to look 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.880 at and say, well, such and such did that, right. 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.840 That had never happened before. So it was like a 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.479 long shot to even think that you can even come 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.599 home after after doing eight, nine, ten years and become 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:25.400 an artist. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.400 So it was, it was, it was. It was a thing. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.120 So it was a miracle actually. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.040 And it was at a boredom like you you just say, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.240 let me just start rhyming. Was did you have like 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.080 a did you test it out in jail, like I 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.119 mean in prison? Did you test it out with your 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.480 peers in there? I guess or so? Did they tell 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.320 you it was hot? Like the thing? 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:46.680 Is this? 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:47.080 Right? 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.800 It was? I was in the box a lot, like 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:53.920 I was spending a lot. 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:58.040 Of time in the solitary, solitary confinement, twenty three hour 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.720 locked in, you know, spending in years that way. And 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.440 when I started rapping, it was under those conditions. I 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:09.200 started rapping in the box, so you understand. So I'm 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.680 in my cell, I don't got nothing else to do 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:16.600 but maybe read sleep radio. They give you these headphones 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.680 you plug into the wall and you could hear you know, 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.400 the rock and roll or the alternative music and stuff 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.160 like that. So this is they didn't have a lot 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.920 of hip hop stations back then. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:26.119 You only heard like hits. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.040 So whatever was like the super popular record on the 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.719 on the hot one hundred or you know, just like 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.880 a hot, hot hip hop song, then you heard it, right, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.880 So you heard Snoop and Dread, you heard Biggie because 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.880 you know, there was they was up there in the sky. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.520 So I was I was under those conditions. I didn't. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:45.839 I didn't. I didn't. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.200 I didn't know like nothing about the industry. I didn't 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.560 know nothing about being a rapper. I just knew that 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.320 it felt good doing it, like I would just it 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:55.920 would help me. 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:56.799 Pass the time away. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.800 Right, So I'm like, man, if I if I get 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.880 up this morning after I eat breakfast and I started 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.760 writing me in rhyme, and it had passed a couple 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.800 of hours and next thing you know, it'd be dark 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.680 and the days started to go faster like that. So 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.520 that's kind of like how I was. I was in 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.440 that mode of like just doing something new that I 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.520 had never done before, and it felt good doing it, 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.800 and so I would I didn't have a lot of 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.640 confidence in doing it though, so I would like they 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.840 would have like porters that helped give out the food 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.960 and stuff like that. And you know, one of the 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.880 guys is a homie Minds and I was like, Yo, what. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.560 Do you think this sounded like? And he was like, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:35.200 this sound all right? 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.440 It was like some stressed out Yo, I'm sitting in 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.680 the cell looking like like some tupac and painful. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.080 You're like, you know what I mean? So it was 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:42.520 like that. 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.320 So yeah, so I was gonna say, so when you 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.920 came home, what was the plan? Did you come home 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.960 and say I'm getting in the studio. So from the 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.360 time that I started rapping, I still had more time 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.280 to do right. And you know, so all I had 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.160 was a five to fifteen. I could have been home 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.040 in five but like I said, I was getting into 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.640 as would you. I had a drug related kidnapping, right, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.000 so I had I had a charge that you know, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.000 I could have got twenty five of life for right. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:13.840 But I was young. 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.120 I copped out to a five to fifteen, and I 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:21.400 was if I had been like a smooth young cat, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.800 I could have probably been home in five years, right, 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.080 But I was in the shit, you know, getting caught up, right, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:30.720 So I did ten. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.560 You did the full ten. Ten. That's that's that's what 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.080 they called you. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.040 That's what they called like your se all, like your 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.120 conditional release, like they have to let you go unless 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.280 you just lose all your good time. So I had 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.080 some good time left, which was for five years, and 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.440 they let me go in ten. So what was important 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.240 about that is that like I was telling you, like 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.200 I ain't really had no confidence. I was looking at 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.559 myself like I ain't no rapper. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.520 I ain't no rapper, and like being in that solitary 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.000 confinement you didn't have anybody to bounce your ideas off. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:08:59.920 Not really, it ain't. 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.360 So I got out of the box and then I 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.599 started to kind of like pull certain dudes that I 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.120 was comfortable with, and I would let them know, say 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:07.720 I had a complex because I looked at I was. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.559 Like, man, gangs, I ain't no rapper. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.200 And at this point, at this at this point in 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.560 the culture, it wasn't that it wasn't that fashionable to 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.280 be an artist, to be a rapper, meaning because the 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.720 way we was looking at it, like rap ass nigga, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.160 like like you understand, like you're sitting on the yard rapping, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.840 being somebody entertainment like I had. It was like kind 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.800 of like a negative connotation. So I was struggling with that. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.360 I was struggling with the idea of me being a 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.680 rapping how people looked at me, because what I thought 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.960 of myself at that time was like, I'm on, my 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.959 g I'm on, I'm stepping, I'm stepping in a certain 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.480 kind of way, and I don't want nobody to be 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.679 playing with me or look at me and make it 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:52.040 mixed me up, right, So I was like struggling with that. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:57.280 So what happened was I never told nobody from the 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.559 outside world that I was rapping, like of the people 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.880 that looked out for me, my friends, my brothers, the 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.320 people that really was there for me, the women that 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.640 was coming up, I never I held that secret for 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.760 years because the reason why I held those that secret 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.400 for years is because it was, like I said, it 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.800 was so far fetched to believe that at this point 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.240 somebody could come home after doing seven, eight, nine, ten 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:21.480 years and become an artist. 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.000 That had never happened. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.920 You had artists that did small bids, you know, two 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:27.960 three years and all that. 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.360 And and and popped off. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.760 But were talking about a gang of time that had 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:36.040 that was never nowadays you see that. So I never 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:37.959 told none of my people because if I would have 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.679 called home and somebody would have said to me, your man, 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:41.600 what you're gonna do when you come home? 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.760 When I say, y, I'm a rap, and they would 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.800 have said to me, they would have been like, man, 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.120 the fuck out, you ain't a rapper. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.320 I would have said you right, I'm not a rapper? 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.120 What am I doing it? And I would have been 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.400 out of that dream. I would have been out of 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.080 that bag right then and there I would. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.280 Have been from that. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.880 Yeah, we're kind of glad that you did that, because, yeah, 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.040 I heard I saw a t I quote that he 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.760 was like, sometimes you can't share, you can you can't, 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:06.920 you can't Sometimes you got to keep it to them. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.160 Puts their fears on you, right and right. And because 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.840 this was just so unheard of, it's not like now 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.000 when you know this rapping and came out you heard 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:21.079 the twelve years, it's almost like it enhances. Yeah, now right, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.600 you hear about that. Now this is totally unheard of. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.040 This is this is what I'm saying, I can't even 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.600 believe sometimes that that even happened to me, because I 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.680 was it was so many guys that was that was 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.400 like rapping, and I was just you know, I'm a 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.599 fan of the coach. I could quote anything, right, and 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.120 I was come, stop buying y'all and listen to dudes. 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.439 And I was like, yeah, he could be someone to 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.600 go out that Never that never worked for nobody else. 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.040 Why would it work for me when I wasn't even 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.240 the one that was doing it like that. So the 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.880 thing was, so I never told nobody, and so I 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.200 got to a place where I was super confident in it. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.080 And so I got to a place where I started 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.360 saying like, yo, you know what, I'm gonna go home 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.480 and do it. And I had made a tape, right 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.040 because back then, you know, my brothers, my people, they 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:05.719 used to be around Biggie, they used to be around Camp. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:06.960 So I was like, man, I'm gonna go home and 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.120 be around Biggie. I'm gonna go home and get and 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.840 get with them, and I'm gonna blow up, right, So 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.920 we all I had those dreams. So I made a tape, 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.360 snuck it out to jail, got it to my people 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.600 and sent them a long letter and it was received well, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.000 like it was like okay, all right. It wasn't that 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.720 they didn't give me the the feedback, the negative feedback 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.960 that I thought I was gonna get. So at that point, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.120 you know, my people was just like, yo, look, whatever 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.040 you want to do, We're gonna support it. Whatever you 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:41.360 want to do, you know what I mean. My God 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.880 was like that was a great feeling. So he was like, Yo, 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.560 you know, you want me to get you some books? 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:47.480 You got time? 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:48.080 You know. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.439 He sent me Donald Passman, you know, Kashif book all 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.000 you need to know about the music business. So I 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.920 started to read and then I was like, yo, we 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.240 need to start our own company. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:12:59.439 And I started. 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.960 I came up to the name of Hustle Hall Entertainment 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.760 while I still was in prison. So Hustle Halls you 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:09.200 see main o Hustle hard that I birthed that in prison. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.240 Where did that come from? 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:10.720 That name? 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.120 It just felt like that's who we should be, Like 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.320 like we hustlers, Like we're gonna figure figure it out. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.199 We're gonna this is what we do all day every day. 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:19.920 Were trying to figure out ideas of how to come 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.760 up and how to make it, how to get money right. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.920 We hustling, we hustling hard. We're gonna go get it. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.320 The early ovation, yeah, early main ovation definitely. Okay, So 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:35.400 you get out, what happens then I get out? I 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.000 get that right, So what I get So, so the 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.319 thing was I got out originally two thousand and one, 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.760 but I caught a violation, and for I was home 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.920 only for five months and I caught a violation and wound. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.079 Up doing a year. He had to go back to 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:49.520 go back. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.320 But when I came out, my people was like we 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.880 had already understood, you know, my brother Daiko, my brother Mouse, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.599 we had already understood what we what what I was 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.200 gonna come home and do, and they was they was 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.560 ready to receive that and helped me to do whatever 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.000 I needed to do. So, you know, I made it. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.160 I made my first tape, you know, it made my 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.920 first CD. It was Household Entertainment Presentment, know you know, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.040 and it was like my first step into me. I 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.360 had never been in the studio before. This is my 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.680 everything was brand new. Everything, every feeling, every every experience 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.680 was brand new. I went I went to prison at 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.280 an early age. So some of the things that I 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:32.080 was behind socially, you know, dating and going out and 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.720 doing certain things like I'm twenty seven, twenty eight, but 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:36.800 I'm behind. But at the same time, I got this 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:40.240 dream of being an artist, so you know, I'm stepping 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.000 I gets locked back up. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:43.040 My do my do? 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:43.280 My? 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:49.000 Uh my, my violation and I was depressed. Is this 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.200 discouraging at this point? 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.800 What they locked me up for going to see my 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.160 co defendant, for going to visit him on the prison, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.320 like like going to visit him for being quote unquote 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.880 a real guy, right, a real nigga. I'm going to 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:05.720 see my guy. They locked me up, give me a 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.240 year of violation. And I said, man, this music thing 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:13.960 never gonna work for me. My girl pregnant at the time. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.600 Oh man, I'm gonna miss the birth of my seed. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.160 I ain't even know what I was having at the time. 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.440 I gotta do another year. This ain't never gonna work 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.600 for me. I'm never gonna make it. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.240 How'd you pull yourself out of that. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:31.280 Time? 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.040 Because when I was feeling like that, you know, when 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.080 you going through something right, it feel like it's gonna 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:41.600 last forever. I'm sitting there just trying to fathom the 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:45.400 idea that I gotta do a whole nother year. And 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.760 I'm saying everything that I thought I wanted to be, 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.720 all of the thoughts. I want to get out the street, man, 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.600 I want to do something different. I've been here all 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.880 my life. I don't know nothing else. Streets, in jail, jail, 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:02.240 back to the street, back to jail. And I was 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.600 depressed for a long time. I wasn't up there trying 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:05.560 to write no rhymes. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.200 I was just depressed. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:13.600 And one day I started to feel like, this is 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:18.480 gonna I'm gonna go home. So time I start to 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.880 heal certain things for you. So I was just like, man, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.560 six months then went by. I got six months left. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.960 I maybe still could pull this off. Am I gonna 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.800 sit here and wallow in my shame? Am I gonna 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.280 sit here and still just be caught up in my feelings? Oh, 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:44.080 I'm gonna stand up, pull my pass up, and figure 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:45.720 it out. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.040 So my son was born while I still was there. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.120 That made me happy, but then it also made me 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.280 feel like, then what I'm gonna go do. You're gonna 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.480 go full streets, You're gonna go full steam ahead in 0:16:56.520 --> 0:17:02.120 the street, or you're gonna still try to salvage this dream. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:02.440 Man. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.680 I came home three months after my son was born, 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.600 but by that time I had already dug into my 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.320 reserves and started to feel better about myself and started 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.040 to say, look, you know what I'm coming, I'm gonna 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.160 do it. And I got back to it as soon 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:18.760 as I got home. I got back to it. I 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:23.080 met K Slay, I met DJs rip R, I pter 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.600 k Slay, you know DJ Clue. You know mvds were 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.040 dudes very early on who was like very integral because 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.320 it was the mixtape error, you know, and I got 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.360 right into that, into that that circuit right there. 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:37.679 So it started to happen. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.520 And then you got to deal with motown And what 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.320 was that like when you got your first deal? 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:44.879 I know it didn't work out, but what was that 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:45.679 first deal like? 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.320 That was tremendous for me? 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:51.679 So I so Kim was somebody that I had known from, 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.320