WEBVTT - Style Your Way to Success (How-To Monday) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.800 Ba fam, we have another how to throw back for you, 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.320 of course we do. We're looking back at some of 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.600 our favorite episodes from days past for memorable guests, too 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.760 unforgettable moments. There's still so much to learn from. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.320 The b A Vault. Take a listen, will you? 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:23.320 Hey? 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.800 Hey, Hey, We're back. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:29.800 We're black, We're. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:40.080 Brand Ambition, Ambition, Ambition, Hey maner, how. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:40.600 Are you girl? 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:41.600 Hello? 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.600 Lady in red, I haven't seen you in this color before. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.199 It's a it's a instead of a short set, it's 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.400 a skirt set. I got it from the Amazon. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.000 From Amazon people, Yeah, shopping on Amazon. I haven't really 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.560 done a lot of people to get cute stuff. Yeah, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.240 that's how I feel. It's either going to be good 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:05.240 quality or like Forever twenty one Clearance been you know, 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.920 quality is how I feel. But I love that you're 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.319 in this new bright color. I am in this one 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.440 of my favorite shades, which I am now over analyzing 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.640 and I'm like, is this my color palette? Am I 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.959 a winter summer whatever? I'm really excited about today's show, 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.040 and the reason we're talking a little bit about style 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.160 is one I think if you follow broad Ambition from 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.959 the very beginning, it's been almost eight years now, can 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:27.399 you believe? 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:28.360 Can you believe? 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.880 We're in the third grade almost, and we have changed 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.320 quite a bit. I feel like our style has evolved. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.680 I think all of our styles are constantly evolving, especially 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.560 like we talked a lot about hair during a recent episode, 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.320 and like how that can evolve with your career and 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.040 your business. And I think style is such. I mean, 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.560 obviously hair is this. Hair and style, it's the same 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.680 thing basically when you're a woman of color. I feel like, 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.480 but today we have a really fantastic guest, Tiffany, and 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.440 I can't wait for y'all to meet here. I met 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.720 this woman at a recent conference that I spoke at, 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.520 and I didn't even realize I hadn't really thought about 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.760 my style very much. But after listening to this our 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.400 guest speaking about it, I instantly was like, you know, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.680 I do put thought into it. But I feel like 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.760 there's so much hunger and a lot of us to 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.720 have more, like to have more of a style and 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.200 to own it a little bit more. What has your 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.360 style like evolution been, Tiffany, As you've gone from Budgetista, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.359 I was always like Netflix, she were in Netflix Red. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.160 Today I have been. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.760 Super tom Boys kind of like my whole life. I 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.239 never really thought about clothes too much. But then as 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.120 I started to start my business, not dressing well harmed 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.000 my business because they were literally like I would get 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.800 feedback what I would meet with someone hoping to like, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.160 you know, launch maybe a workshop series whatever, I would 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.200 get feedback and say, like, I like Tifny, but she 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.560 didn't really dress very professionally, and I was like, because 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:51.000 before then. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:51.760 I was in preschool team. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.959 Really yeah, I got a couple of people who said 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.919 that because pre school teacher, you know, you're like, can 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:56.880 this be thrown up on? 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:57.640 I'll wear it. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.640 So I got to delay developing my style because I 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.480 you know, professionally, it was like comfort, comfort, comfort. It 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.360 should be able to get dirty, and that's what I 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.800 was for ten years. So I didn't know what to wear. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.320 So thankfully my sister Tracy, who's also a publicist, she 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.680 is always super well dressed. So I started to lean 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.120 into her and said, can you help me create like 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.720 a Budgetissa look, which is like very very professional looking. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.960 And now I'm easing up on the budget Lisa being 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.720 more super tailored and like, you know, interjecting more of 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.120 my funness into it. And so I'm in this new 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.160 space now where I'm like bringing forth the feminine. That's 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.320 what I told myself, you know, because I know I 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:42.320 got little body on me. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:47.400 A little bit too. Wait body, yes, a little. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.000 Body, you know, and I've never shown I met this 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.920 woman in I was at brunch in Brooklyn with my 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.160 sister Lisa, and a budgetista fan came up to. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.880 Me was like, girl, I know you had that body. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:01.880 I'm like, I know, I'm leaning into my feminine a 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:03.560 little bit like one in a way that makes me 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.840 feel comfortable because I don't like having all all the 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.280 girls out, but in a way that I'm like, girl, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.520 you got a body, like you know, embrace it. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.600 Yeah. For me, I think because my body size changed 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.560 has always changes every two years. I'm up and down. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.320 I have this like opra condition, and I think that 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.640 has always made it really difficult for me to just 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.680 like settle in a style because it was like, you know, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.479 when I'm growing up getting dressed, getting styled by the 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:32.839 Sears plus size section, which is like for little girls, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.880 you know, in the way far back corner by like 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.440 the granny you know stuff and the petite section, and 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.640 to be like, here's my mom would just drag me 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.920 back there and be like, which Hello Kitty or Winnie 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.160 the Pooh ensemble would you like? Because like these are 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:49.120 the options. So I have been like plus size, and 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.359 you know, every you know from from way too skinny 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.839 you had some issues to like, you know, plus size, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.880 and it has made it almost to the point where 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.280 I didn't want to think about like I I didn't 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.359 think I deserved or could have a look because it 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.560 would mean like investing more in new clothes because my 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.719 size has changed again. And that finally broke for me 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.200 a couple of years ago when I had the opportunity 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.520 to do like a real brand photo shoot and I 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.800 worked with a family friend of mine who was like, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.640 she's a stylist in her free time, and I had 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:26.039 her picking things for me, and she introduced me to 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.400 you like, for so long I had been trying to 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.880 develop a style by shopping at like old Navy in 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.000 H and M, and I get so annoyed because then 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:34.760 he got on the subway and every other girl has 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.800 the exact same, you know, look. And she introduced me 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.320 to like curating different pieces and like putting them together, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:44.919 and she really helped me get out of the trap 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.440 of like not buying something because I didn't like the 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.800 size I had to buy in it, which I don't 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.240 know if you ever been like as a as a 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.120 plus size woman, and I know our guest is as well. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.520 Like you, you get so caught up in like what 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.320 size something is, and are people no one's gonna know 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.800 what size it is, you know. But she helped me 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.039 finally get out of that trap of stop holding yourself 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:10.120 back from looking amazing because you're more there's shame around 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.480 what size of that you have to have. And now 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.000 ever since I like broke that spell, I feel like 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.520 it's been so much more fun to like discover new 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.960 brands I'm a huge fan of like Eloquy. I wear 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.839 their stuff all the time and they do fourteen plus fashion, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:32.400 And also like stop wasting time over analyzing myself and 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.320 being like embarrassed because no one does know what your 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.640 size is. They just know how you're moving confidently, like 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.719 in your fashion, you know. So I don't know if 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.839 y'all my fashion has been like muted, muted, muted, and 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.600 then like this explosion of my personality color, you know, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.440 I want joy to come through with the style that 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.680 I have, and it's been. Yeah, it's been liberating, and 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.919 I'm glad I got there now because I feel like 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.440 so many of us we wait till, like, I don't 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.479 know when do we stop giving giving a crop about 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.000 people think about us on average? 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.799 I don't know. I'm still trying to have eight I'm forty, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.960 and I would say I'm about eighty percent. Girl, what 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.960 nobody cares? They're still about a little thirty percent. I'm like, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:14.520 but I do. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.240 But yeah, I'm trying to do well. I still got collagen, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.200 you know, while there's some loaf in the skin, Like 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.240 just even on vacation. I told you, I've never felt 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.360 sexier than I was on our vacation a couple of 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.920 weeks ago. I've never been heavyer. I got this huge 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.040 seven month baby bump. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:30.520 But I was rocking bikinis. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.640 I wasn't. I wasn't hiding behind a cover up. I wasn't. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.560 I was just like, this is my body, like this 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.720 is There's nothing to be ashamed about anyway. So that's 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.400 been It's a good I think. I feel like I 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.400 hope that more of us are feeling that way. I credit, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.440 do you have a style icon? Because I credit Lizzo 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.160 for making me feel better about my lumps and bumps. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:54.400 You know what, I don't. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.560 Actually, maybe that's my problem. I don't have a style. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.480 Icon, like someone that you look to and you're like, oh, 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.040 you know, they are so put together. That's who I 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.880 kind of want to That's the vibe I want to 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:04.520 give off. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:09.760 Not a particular woman, but more so like the Brooklyn 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.840 the Brooklyn black girl I love because I'm like an 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.200 afrocentric at my core, and so I love like the 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.320 Brooklyn batty blacker that's just walking big hair, like it's 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.120 just so that there's no one particular, but like I 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.480 love that look and it just looks so effortlessly. She 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.560 can bohemian but like sexy but not super because I'm 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.000 not really like I said, like my girls are not 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.240 all out, you know, So I would say that that 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.480 the Brooklyn the summer Brooklyn black girl is my icon. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:43.520 I don't know, I'll never be that cool. I really 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.040 want to get to our guests because she is. This 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.240 is what she does. She works with people like you 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.520 and I and I mean not just that but just 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.400 regular regular folks. And when I'm going to her style 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.880 talk at this conference that I went to, Like, the 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.720 women were lining up afterward, and she wouldn't these small 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.000 tweaks to their outfits and you can see their eyes 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.880 light up, you know, like oh I didn't think I 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.640 didn't look at it this way, or like this actually 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.760 does look good on me? And it was so powerful, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.679 So I had to have her on. I want to 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.880 introduce her finally to y'all, BA fam. Her name is 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.320 Kendra Porter. She is a teed X speaker, an award 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.560 winning image consultant, and a wardrobe stylist. She is the 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.600 founder of Honor Your Style image consulting agency, where she's 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.640 worked with thousands of clients, helping them reimagine their style. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.000 Kendra uses fashion as a tool to develop personal and 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:36.280 professional brands, and her motto is honor your Style, Honor you. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.840 These days, you can find Kendra producing events on the 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.040 mic for well known retailers like Neiman Marcus. She facilitates 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.760 trainings like I went to on personal branding and style. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.319 She also teaches at a little school you might have 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.679 heard of called FIT or the Fashion Institute of Technology 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:56.720 in New York City, and she's also in studio dressing 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.000 on air talent at NBC Sports and has even dressed 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.800 talent for the Olympics. Come on now. Over a decade 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.040 of experience, she has dressed for designers at New York 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.400 Fashion Week, from Oscar Della Rented to Problem. Yeah, how 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:13.840 do you say that, Kendra? Probably Garung, I'd be you 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.680 know when you see something, but you know, anyway, whatever, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.600 She's very, very impressive and we are so freaking excited 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:20.839 to have Kendra on the show. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.600 Welcome Kendra, Thank you, ladies, thank you so much for 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.160 having me. And I did say proble Garung, my apologies. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:32.440 I was not unmiked, unmiked, unmuted, but uh yeah, listen, 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.360 even for me saying some of the designer's names, I'm like, wait, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.679 hold on, let me google. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.040 They deserve Well. I'm so happy to have you on. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.560 I mean we headed off. We're like new besties because 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.079 we also live in the same zip code we do 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.480 over here representing Westchester. But is it true did you 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.600 meet Tiffany before, like a million lifetimes ago? 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.560 Yeah, so I met Tiffany, And I don't know if 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.760 you even remember this, Tiffany, like I met you when 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.160 I was first starting out. So this probably eleven twelve 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.120 years ago, right, you had just started out as well, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.360 and we were at a women of Chamber commerce meeting 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.120 in the city, like off of fourteenth Street. Don't ask 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.160 me why I remember all of these details, but I do. 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.040 And ever since then, right, I've been part of the 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.840 dream Catchers and right following you for all these years, 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.360 so I appreciate it, and we've touched base every now 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:28.120 and then. But it's been an amazing journey to watch 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.000 you and I am so proud of all that you've 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.000 done throughout the years, for sure, So kudos to you. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.840 Thank you, and welcome to you. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.560 We'll talk about like being an image consultant first of all, Kendra, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.560 because you do on the personal and the professional level. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.839 Why is it important, Like why should people from us 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.160 who are public facing to just everyday working women be 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.199 thinking about our image. So the first thing I like 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.160 to explain to people is the difference between an image 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:59.400 consultant and a stylist, right, Because everyone's like, well, I'm 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.800 not a celebrity, and so I happen to be both, right, 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.560 I tell people, as an image consultant, it is about 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.840 the person, right, you as a as a total package, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:12.480 your personality, your lifestyle, your budget, all of it. And 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.520 so it is making sure that you are aligned with 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.040 what you are trying to represent as a person, right 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.559 and communicating that through your fashion as well. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.120 As a stylist. Right, it is about the clothes. So 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.280 if you walk into a room and someone says, oh 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.199 my god, that person looks amazing, that's an image consultant. Right, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.480 you see the person as a whole. If you walk 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.240 into a room and someone says, oh my god, where'd 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.440 you get those shoes? That is a stylist. Right. It's 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.120 about the It's about the fashion, the dress, the shoes, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.920 the pieces right that are speaking above who you are 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.680 as an individual. And so you know, the importance is 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.240 is that as a person as a whole, regardless of 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.959 whether you're you know, in the limelight or if you're 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.839 living your daily life, you want to represent the best 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.199 person you are. Right. We always say that we should 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.840 always put our best foot forward, no matter what, even 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:05.880 running to the grocery store. But running to the grocery 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.480 store may mean putting out moisturizer and putting your hair 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.440 in a bun, right, like running a brush through your hair, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.240 the simple things. Because we are, unfortunately, right, we are 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.440 in a culture that does judge and that does see people, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.680 and it's that visual representation is the first thing that 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:23.240 you see. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.000 Yeah, I don't know. I feel like there's with social 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:31.520 media too. There it's this like dichotomy because I think 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.960 on social media some hows you want to be raw, unfiltered, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.560 no makeup, whatever, But there's a very different version of 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.040 yourself when you show up to present something or to 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:46.160 represent your brand, you know, among potential advertisers or potential clients. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.760 How do you sort of towe that line between like 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.079 honoring both sides, where like, I mean, you kind of 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.840 want to like resist the need to be like Tiff 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.440 and I. I don't know, Tiff, like you're going through 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.719 this glow up phase where you know, she puts the 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.880 F and then we hear not that you have before. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:07.600 It's just different. But it's so yeah, yeah, it's so. 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.079 Here's the thing, right, nobody's saying you have to wear 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.760 makeup every day, Right, That's not what we're saying. What 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.120 we're saying is is that you want to represent the 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.680 best you, even as a natural, even as a natural 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.720 right fresh faced, running out of running to the grocery 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.880 store or what have you. Right, I don't wear makeup 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.840 every day. I only wear makeup when I'm doing events 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.200 or I'm on camera. Right, If you see me out 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.680 on the street, I don't have makeup on, right, but 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.800 I'm dressed in a way that people may say, oh, right, 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.000 where'd you get those sneakers? Right? Where did you? You know? 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.400 What's what's kind of sort of sticking out? And that's 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.040 the stylus side of me, right, Or I may help 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.680 people with that, right if I'm of course in a 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.640 store shopping and it's like, oh, here, look at this, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.240 and then they take a look at me, because if 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.360 I'm dressed right, if I'm dressed in an oversized sweat 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.600 or in a pair of leggings trying to style somebody, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.560 they're like, I'm not really sure you're the right person 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.960 for me, right, But of course I'm going to be 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.800 in fashionable leggings and fashionable sweatshirt. So that's a different story. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.920 But it is you want to be who you are authentically, 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.640 and it is the simple things, right, So like when 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.600 you talked about making those little tweaks when we were 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:17.360 at the seminar, it is grooming right, looking at brushing 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.360 your hair, looking at adding moisturizer. Looking at doing lip bomb. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.080 Nobody says you have to put on lipstick, but do 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.200 a lip bomb right so that you don't have chap lips. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.560 I don't care. It's the little things that make you 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.760 look a little bit more polished that it's like, oh, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.200 you got everything put together and you're not wearing anything different, right, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.520 but it is. Can we can we iron our shirts 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.960 before we go outside? Right, those little things that help 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.440 to tweak and polish you on a general basis. And 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.000 then when you're talking about showing up as a professional 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.720 and in your career, yeah, you do need to look 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.960 a particular way, right. You do need to represent who 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.280 you are as a brand. Now. Granted there are the 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.040 likes of like Steve Jobs and all of that, but 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.280 we know them for not their style and that they 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.480 are trying to make the minimum decisions that they need 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.360 to in their fashion. As a brand. You need to 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.560 figure out what that looks like for you individually, and 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.680 then making sure that you assign what you're wearing to 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.720 that brand, to whatever it is that is for you. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.960 As black women, right, Like we are policed in so 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.880 many different ways our hair, you know, like the way 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.320 we wear our makeup, like even just like one of 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.680 the reasons why I don't wear tight things is because 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.840 I know I got a lot of booty, and so 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:40.320 I know that unfortunately, my natural body is perceived in 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:45.800 some arenas, especially financial education, as unprofessional. There's nothing I've done, 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:46.880 like this is how I was born. 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.320 So it's the sexualization of black women's bodies. That's a 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:54.440 whole other conversation. Yes, so what can like, as you know, what. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.080 Advice can you give for as we show up as 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.520 black women with our bodies and how we just naturally look, 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:04.000 you know, how can we create this like lead this 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.560 foundation of professionalism without being like I. 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.080 Got to hide my body in order to do so. 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.760 Right, So there's a couple of things, I think. So 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.080 one of the things that I go through with my 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.760 clients is I do ask them to pick out words, right, 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:19.920 So I tell them, choose three words that represent what 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:21.760 you want to be known for. And I mean three 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.800 words in terms of personality traits, right, whether that's intelligent, 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.440 whether that's creative, whether that's a boss. What are those 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.359 three words? And then pick two style words, right, so 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.600 whether it's romantic or edgy or funky, and then use 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:39.840 that to build your looks each morning. Right. So if 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:46.280 I say that I am going to be edgy, creative 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.840 and welcoming, right, I'm not. And then I want to 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:59.959 be edge of creative, welcoming, I said five, right, professional, 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.720 and fun. I'm not wearing all black every day, right, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.439 just because I'm trying to either hide my body, hide 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.600 who I am, right, hide my personality. I am going 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.600 to wear bright colors. I'm going to wear patterns. I'm 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.600 going to wear things that are a little bit more slick, right, 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.679 So for me and that and those words can change too, right, 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.240 So don't say these are the words that you're holding 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.040 to and you can't ever change that. It's also based 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.159 on context, right, So where are you going? How do 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.320 you want to be seen within that community? Right within 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.840 those people that you're going to and then using those 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.200 words to change. And it's also based on how you feel. 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:39.040 So you get up in the morning, there are days 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.960 where you're like, you know what, I just want to 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.800 get up and keep it moving. And so you're going 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.719 to throw on a like jeans and T shirts. Okay, 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.800 well what does that look like for that day? Right? 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.720 Are you? Are you the bohemian that day? And so 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.560 you're going to do gens and write like a white 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.760 oversized blouse and a pair of and doodenim and right 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:04.160 like lots of brown leather. Or is it that you're 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.320 gonna do a sweatshirt right like a hoodie and a 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:11.400 leather jacket and a paradium right, two different looks, both casual, 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.960 but both can still be fun and exciting for you. Right. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.359 You should enjoy getting dressed in the morning. That's the 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.000 other thing, is that whatever you put on should bring 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.920 you joy because how you dress also affect your mood. 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.159 It's not just about how other people see you, but 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:30.040 it's also how you see yourself. So those people who 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.840 think about this way, even if you're wearing sweats, right, 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.760 and if you put on sexy underwear, undersweats is a 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.320 very different You stand differently, right, You move through your 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.560 day differently, And so you want. 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.720 To be not pack panties, Tiffany, I'm graduated. 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.040 I've graduated from pack pansies. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.920 You feel better? Yeah, I mean, Kendra, when I was 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.920 listening to you talk. And also it's not just about 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.240 this is a thing like so many of us are 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.000 wearing what we think we feel comfortable in, but not 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.439 maybe what is the best look from the outside looking in? 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.240 And I feel like during your talk, what was powerful 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.119 was when women were like, well, I put this on it, 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:13.000 I think this looks good, and then you start to 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.040