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Speaker 2: I stole two cars this morning. I did. There was

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Speaker 1: He was taking his two kids to school, and he

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Speaker 1: And I said, kids, no school today yet, moving he

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what'd you do with the kids? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I told him. I said, look, I'm taking your dad's car,

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Speaker 3: end to this stay's runnings? Well it was running, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John's talking about no bail, which took effect in

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Speaker 2: What's that no crime was committed.

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Speaker 3: We did learn that car theft is one of those

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Speaker 3: offenses considered non serious, non violent, and you can go

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Speaker 3: without bail site release. This is unbelievable. The big development

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Speaker 3: our knowledge, that hasn't happened yet. But here they are Whittier, Arcadia, Artisia, Covina, Downey, Glendora, Industry, Laquid, Laverne, Palmdale,

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Speaker 1: They're telling the court that the court has made the

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Speaker 2: Joe welcome.

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Speaker 4: Could they talked about with you guys? Been a while,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as I understand, and this is a confusing issue,

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Speaker 4: Well, actually they do have the power to do it,

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Speaker 4: You're going to get a ticket, Okay, site release. Basically,

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Speaker 1: You're asking the Ali Superior Court to admit that they've

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Speaker 4: They're making judgment calls, and that's what that's what's particularly

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Speaker 4: In La County, we got some really really good judges

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much how much input do they

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that's going to happen. You don't have

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and here's here's what's particularly troublesome about this. When

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Speaker 4: So what we've done is we filed the lawsuit and

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Speaker 4: we've really requested those to well, where should this case

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Speaker 4: So there's a provision in the Code of Civil Procedure

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Speaker 1: Do you know if any of the adjoining counties have

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Speaker 4: what's really interesting about this, and you guys remember this.

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Speaker 4: In twenty eighteen, the state legislature pushed zero bail to

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Speaker 1: But all right, but the Superior Court in La County

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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, But my point in saying this is the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, no question, we know that, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Well we're going to this time. Yeah, well, I mean seriously.

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Speaker 3: County Presiding Judge Samantha Jester is one that's speaking here

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Speaker 3: mayor Joe, maybe we'll have you back on if you

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Speaker 4: See what happens. I think the biggest deal about this

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Speaker 3: That's Whittier mayor Joe Vinittieri. And of course Whittier is

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Speaker 3: you know, like county, because we won zero bail yesterday.

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Speaker 3: And he's bringing up the example I brought up what

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Speaker 3: So John, you could want to spree and like hop

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Speaker 1: Right, So my next car I should not steal in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about it's got a name, the zero

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Speaker 3: See? That's the thing, It's what van A Waivers said.

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Speaker 3: Well, coming up after two o'clock, we're expecting to talk

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Speaker 3: the John and Ken show. Well, guess who showed up

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Speaker 3: Show yes always repeats his words in case you missed

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Speaker 3: He went on anti Californian rants. He wasn't the only one,

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Speaker 3: So what's the idea. You're gonna have troops outside every

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Speaker 2: It's just terrent.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to say, if you think you're going to

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Speaker 3: shortened prison sentences. Now they don't even want anybody in

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Speaker 3: for a day or two with bail. That's what we're

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Speaker 3: down to now. They want anybody in jail a day

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Speaker 3: or two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I knew this was coming.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely knew that everything was step by step by step,

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Speaker 3: and they were going to space it out by months years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this has been now a twelve year project.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you there's some memo in twenty eleven or

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Speaker 1: maybe in twenty eight or twenty oh six, here's the plan,

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Speaker 1: here's how we do it, and do it through legislation,

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Speaker 1: do it through referendums that are that are sold with lies,

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Speaker 1: with judge's decisions, judicial panels.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you name it. Every possible way that got

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Speaker 2: in power.

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Speaker 1: The crazy people got in power, and now they're exercising

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Speaker 1: their power while they can, because you never know how

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Speaker 1: long a political movement's going to last. And eventually they're

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Speaker 1: going to run into a wall. There's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: bad backlash coming, and you can see Trump is the backlash.

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Speaker 1: Trump is now public advocating for shoplifters to be shot.

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Speaker 1: How many people are gonna say, yeah, right on, and

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Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, I mean inside, don't you feel

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Speaker 1: a surge.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you're right, damn right if you saw the

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Speaker 3: story in the Times about this. They also have Times,

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Speaker 3: so they tried to make it look like, oh, those

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Speaker 3: are just those extremest crazy people who you know this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't California bashing well, I don't care what they write.

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Speaker 1: They're another discredited operation. There are a bunch of like

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Speaker 1: twenty five year old woke progressives who are making very

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Speaker 1: little money. All the real journalists at the La Times

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Speaker 1: have run to some somewhere else. They don't have real

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Speaker 1: journalists there. They have a bunch of college kids, just

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Speaker 1: a bunch of woke fools.

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Speaker 3: So this next clip, Trump talks about newsom. He talks

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Speaker 3: about well, apparently this's got a lot of attention. He

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Speaker 3: starts to imitate Biden getting lost on stage. Let's listen.

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Speaker 6: Gavin has become crooked Joe Biden's top surrogate. I think

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Speaker 6: because he doesn't think.

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Speaker 3: Biden's going to make it.

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Speaker 2: That's why he's doing it.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't think he's gonna make it, and it won't

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Speaker 6: be him so easy. He's gonna have a big fight, however,

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Speaker 6: because there will be a lot of Democrats competing is

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Speaker 6: going to be very interesting. But let's see. Look, some

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Speaker 6: people say Biden's gonna make it. Does anybody think he's

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Speaker 6: going to make it to the starting gate? I mean,

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Speaker 6: the guy can't find his way off of a stage.

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Speaker 3: Look, here's the stage.

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Speaker 2: Here's the stage.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen the stupid stage before. Right, I've never

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Speaker 6: seen it. But if I walk left, there's a stair,

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Speaker 6: and if I walk right, there's a stair, and this

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Speaker 6: guy gets up.

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Speaker 4: Where am I?

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Speaker 2: Where the hell am I? Where am I?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: What's important about this is that right Trump does it

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Speaker 3: like this. It's funny, but it's just not covered a

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Speaker 3: lot of the mainstream media. And I'll just ignore es

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Speaker 3: that Biden is like this. They just the story runs

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Speaker 3: on Fox News in a couple of places, but it

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Speaker 3: gets honestly, in a different day and time where we

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Speaker 3: weren't this split, I think the whole country'd be like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, what's going on? This old man can't

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Speaker 3: even find his way off the stage.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's back in twenty sixteen form. I know

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Speaker 1: a guy who went to this Anaheim conference and said

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Speaker 1: Trump did that for an hour and a half and

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Speaker 1: it was just a complete stand up routine from beginning

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Speaker 1: to end, and he was back in his Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: comedian mode.

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Speaker 2: What the hell am I?

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Speaker 3: And apparently today he blasted because he's in New York

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Speaker 3: with a civil trial for fraud which was brought by

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Speaker 3: the Attorney General of that state, and he went on

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Speaker 3: a rampageikins, I heard the judge everybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand that case. And I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what this is about. If he inflated

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Speaker 1: the value of his properties to the banks or the

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Speaker 1: insurance companies, then they're supposed to catch it.

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Speaker 2: They're not.

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Speaker 1: They didn't file any complaints. There are no victims here.

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Speaker 1: No bank complained, no insurance company complained.

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Speaker 3: I guess if it's against New York state law though,

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Speaker 3: to put that on.

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Speaker 1: Applications, Yeah, well what that's Yeah, but that's what you

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Speaker 1: do when you're trying to destroy somebody politically. Oh it

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Speaker 1: is who else got charged with that?

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Speaker 2: Who gets charged with something?

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Speaker 1: Which the system itself takes care of any any inequities. Right,

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Speaker 1: If Trump exaggerates or lives or just is wrong about

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Speaker 1: his estimate, then the bank says, no, you're wrong, We're

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Speaker 1: not going to give you a loan based on that amount.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's all. It's self correct. She comes this, Letitia,

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Speaker 2: what's your name?

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Speaker 1: Letitia James comes flying out of the blue to regulate

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Speaker 1: a private negotiation where neither side had complained about it.

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Speaker 3: But she's the one that st andrew Homo pack in anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: when he was governor. All right, we got more coming up,

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Speaker 3: don't forget. After two o'clock, we're expecting to speak to

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Speaker 3: Kim Clinkinbroomer. She is the mother of La County Sheriff's

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Speaker 3: Deputy Ryan Clinkinboomer, who was shot to death back on

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Speaker 3: September sixteenth, just he was about to head out on

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Speaker 3: patrol outside the Palmdale shriff station. Also, who will be

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Speaker 3: here is the fiancee of Ryan, of Brittany Johnny Ken

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Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 5: AM six forty.

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Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one to four and then

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Speaker 1: after four o'clock John and Ken on demand the podcast

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Speaker 1: to listen to what you missed.

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Speaker 3: Well, we just played a clip of Trump appearing in

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Speaker 3: California because the Republicans had their state convention. He was

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Speaker 3: one of the speakers, but he was also making the

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Speaker 3: rounds and he said, shoplifters will be shot when I

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Speaker 3: take over again. So speaking of being shot, this is

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Speaker 3: another really horrible, unbelievable story. It actually comes from a

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Speaker 3: Bay Area store, Apien Food and Liquor in El Sobrante.

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Speaker 3: One of the clerks there was trying to stop or

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Speaker 3: repeat shoplift. You've already been to the store twice taking stuff.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like what he was taking was lighter fluid,

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Speaker 3: and you guess what happened next. Here is the story

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Speaker 3: from CBS Bay Area.

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Speaker 7: Surveillance video captured the moment a man the store clerk

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Speaker 7: said shoplifted three times that day, poured lighter fluid on

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Speaker 7: him and set him on fire. The attack left Sarage

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Speaker 7: with second and third degree burns on his face, neck, chest,

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Speaker 7: and shoulder. He's been hospitalized since last Friday.

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Speaker 8: It's terrible in a you know, I'm still in a

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Speaker 8: trauma right now.

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Speaker 9: You know, the pain is like it's like seven eight

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Speaker 9: and out of ten, and when when we cleaned the wound,

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Speaker 9: it's like it's forward ten.

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Speaker 7: Sarag who declined to share his last name said he's

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Speaker 7: worked as a clerk at Appian Food and Liquor in

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Speaker 7: el Sobronte for about five years. On this day, he said,

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Speaker 7: his co worker alerted him to the repeat chop later

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Speaker 7: who stole lighter fluid each time. Sarage tried to stop

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Speaker 7: him while his coworker grabbed it back.

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Speaker 9: He just, you know, he splashed those lighter feud on

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Speaker 9: my face. And I was so scared at that moment.

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Speaker 9: And I don't don't I don't know like what to do,

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Speaker 9: and just come to stop him.

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Speaker 8: And I don't know, I don't remember. He just lit

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Speaker 8: the fire on me, you know.

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Speaker 7: The Contra Costa County Shar's office said deputies arrested the suspect,

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Speaker 7: thirty eight year old Kendall Burton, a homeless person in

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Speaker 7: el Soebronte. He's facing charges including assault with the deadly weapon, battery, arson,

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Speaker 7: and robbery. He's being held without bail.

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Speaker 9: I would like to say, like nobody has to go

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Speaker 9: to this kind of situation. The small store should have

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Speaker 9: like more like a security or something like that.

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Speaker 7: Sarage said he needs several surgeries and faces a long

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Speaker 7: road to recovery. His family started an online fundraiser to

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Speaker 7: help with medical bills, and how is your family holding up?

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Speaker 8: Singing like this? And yeah they all the time, they

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Speaker 8: cry and know when they come here.

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Speaker 9: Store employees say, the suspects came into the store a

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Speaker 9: few times that day and stole lighter fluid each time.

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Speaker 3: Here you go from CBS Bay area. This time the

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Speaker 3: vagrant for some reason was obsessed with stealing lighter fluids.

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Speaker 3: So when they tried to stop him, he set the

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Speaker 3: poor guy on fire.

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Speaker 1: There, all right, mental patient, homeless person. The guy is

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Speaker 1: thirty eight years old. Now you imagine how crazy this

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Speaker 1: guy is.

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Speaker 3: You think this is a no bail situation. He did

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Speaker 3: get he did, They did make him a bail, but I.

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Speaker 2: Was no they I said, she said no bail.

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Speaker 3: No he's oh he's being held without bail, right, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: So at the moment, there's no there's not even a bed,

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Speaker 3: there's not even a bit, right, because this is almost murdered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, yeah, I mean easily could have been so.

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Speaker 1: But you have somebody walking the streets.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I am sure he's got a record. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 1: got very colorful story in the first thirty eight years.

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Speaker 1: But Guys like that shouldn't be allowed to walk the streets.

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Speaker 1: And there's there's literally tens of thousands of them, so

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Speaker 1: everybody's made a choice. This poor guy happened to be

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Speaker 1: uh to happen to lose the lottery. He's the one

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Speaker 1: who got his face lit on fire by a lunatic

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Speaker 1: who in any other time in America, that man would

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Speaker 1: be inside a mental institution, locked up with no chance

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Speaker 1: to get out. And that was a just situation. That

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Speaker 1: would be a fair situation if a guy like that

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Speaker 1: was kept inside of mental institution indefinitely forever. That's the

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Speaker 1: way life used to be. And that's what we should

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Speaker 1: get back to. Because waited for the guy with the bat.

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Speaker 3: To clob room first before he confronted me a guy

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Speaker 3: with a lighter fluid.

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Speaker 1: And this is why companies don't want their employees going

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Speaker 1: front through the bad guys, because you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get you're gonna get be set on fire.

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Speaker 3: Now, all right, Coming up next, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: conversation with Kim Clinkinbruomer and Brittany. Kim is the mother

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Speaker 3: of La County Sheriff's Deputy Ryan Clinton. Ruomer, who was

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Speaker 3: shot to death on September sixteenth as he was going

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Speaker 3: off on patrol outside the Palmdale Sheriff's station. And of

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Speaker 3: course Kim has already made it clear she's not happy

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Speaker 3: that they're not seeking the death penalty against his killer.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app.

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