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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by Draft Kings. Garrett and

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Speaker 1: I are here to break down the Ravens twenty six

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Speaker 1: to twenty loss in the preseason finale against the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Ravens and the preseason one and two feels

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Speaker 1: pretty weird to say that after a twenty four game

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Speaker 1: win streak, but really, let's be honest, Garrett, Hey, this

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Speaker 1: is about competition battles, roster spot battles, and really the

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Speaker 1: sites now straight on the regular season, well, first on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three men roster in the formation of that,

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Speaker 1: and then onto the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's a streak or not.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that that's always kind of what

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Speaker 2: happens at this time. But yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 2: that there's a few decisions that need to be made.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's many, but I think there's a

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Speaker 2: couple of decisions that we're going to talk through here

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Speaker 2: that there is about to make before the cut down

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday afternoon, four o'clock is the deadline for that.

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Speaker 3: And you know.

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Speaker 2: There's some guys that made the Ravens, you know, be

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Speaker 2: in a position where they have to make some tough

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Speaker 2: calls and try to fight their way onto the team.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to start here, Garrett. So John Harball

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Speaker 1: on Friday or Thursday said, you know, some guys can

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Speaker 1: put themselves over the top. Yeah, with their their performance

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Speaker 1: in the preseason finale. It's not like anybody loses a job,

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Speaker 1: but some guys you can put yourself over the top.

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Speaker 1: Did anybody put themselves over the top for you tonight?

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Speaker 2: I thought the one who made it probably the most

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Speaker 2: difficult was Josh Johnson. I agree, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: that you know, we did our full fifty three man

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Speaker 2: roster prediction. If you haven't done so, go back and

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Speaker 2: check that out.

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Speaker 3: And both of us.

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Speaker 1: Hey getting tweaks of that. You miner with that at

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Speaker 1: all after tonight, you know, unlike.

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Speaker 2: You, unlike you. Once it's done, it's done, it's set,

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Speaker 2: its final. I don't know, you know, it's it's it's finalized.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man of honor. I made my pick. I

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Speaker 2: gotta stand by it. But like you know, Josh Johnson

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Speaker 2: is probably the one who had who made the coaches

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Speaker 2: and Eric the Costa have to think about it the most.

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Speaker 3: You know, he had a good game.

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Speaker 2: He came out there march right down the field to

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Speaker 2: open things up, and I think it's kind of twofold.

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Speaker 3: It is one.

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Speaker 2: Are the Ravens going to keep three quarterbacks? That's one decision.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they will either, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: they will either. And then if they keep two, did

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Speaker 2: he do enough to put himself in front of Tyler Huntley?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 1: The only scenario that I see like a team keeping

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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks is one of them is really young and

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Speaker 1: you have to keep them on the roster for developmental reasons.

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Speaker 4: You can't release them.

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Speaker 1: They're not like undrafted, but you have to keep a

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Speaker 1: rookie on the roster for developmental reasons. So like you know,

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Speaker 1: when Lamar Jackson wasn't the starter, he was obviously taking

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Speaker 1: a roster spot. But they also had RG three Jo

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Speaker 1: of Flaco, right because RG three was really like the

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Speaker 1: number two kind of you know, if you have a

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Speaker 1: young fourth round pick, fifth round pick that you don't

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Speaker 1: want to cut because you're worried some of the team

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Speaker 1: or you have a quarterback with some kind of lingering injury,

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Speaker 1: your starter has injury questions. The Ravens aren't in any

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Speaker 1: of those boats, right, they don't have a young draft

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Speaker 1: pick that they need to keep on the fifty three.

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Speaker 1: It's really making a decision between Tyler Huntley and Josh Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to here. And if the

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Speaker 1: Ravens we knocked on the wooden football, knock on wood.

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Speaker 1: You know, if the Ravens, you know, this isn't the case,

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Speaker 1: so I can say it, all right, so there's new jinks.

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Speaker 1: If the Ravens didn't have Lamar Jackson for week one, right,

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Speaker 1: knock on wood.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Nothing happens in practice, knocking on wood, everything, knock on everything. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, the all jigs are off, all right, just

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Speaker 1: letting everybody know if they didn't have him for week one,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not so sure who they would want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be Josh Johnson.

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Speaker 2: I know, Yeah, I'm with you. I mean I think

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Speaker 2: that you know, they've said all along that this is

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Speaker 2: going to be a competition, even you know, on the

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Speaker 2: on the depth chart it says Josh Johnson or Tyler

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this Snoop out played Josh in

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Speaker 1: training camp leading up to the preseason opener and in

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Speaker 1: the preseason opener. Yeah, and then Snoop got hurt. Yep, right,

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Speaker 1: that's whatever, no fault of his own. But he's been out,

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Speaker 1: and since he's been out, Josh has played and practiced

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Speaker 1: really well. Like Josh has has gotten better as camp

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Speaker 1: then he ends it with a great you know drive

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Speaker 1: opening drive here at tonight and played really well, and

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Speaker 1: so you just wonder, well as Josh kind of got

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Speaker 1: this offense, you know, he really kind of showed that

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Speaker 1: he can operate this offense at a high level. Todd

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Speaker 1: munkins offense, right, Like, I feel like if Josh Johnson

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Now, I think the probably dynamic like with.

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Speaker 3: Too, I think, I mean, yeah, I mean, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's who would operate at a higher level. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, the tyler Snoop offers more with

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Speaker 4: I probably give the.

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Speaker 1: Nod to Josh right and he can move too, you know,

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Speaker 1: but really I'm going to stick with Snoop, and part

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Speaker 1: of it being, you know, Josh Johnson, Like, here's a

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Speaker 1: thirty seven year old quarterback like as well as he's played,

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Speaker 1: and I know the broadcast tonight they're talking about how

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Speaker 1: you know, any other team in the NFL he would

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Speaker 1: you know, would love to have this guy, Like he's

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Speaker 1: bounced around to a ton of other teams for a reason.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty seven years old. Is somebody else gonna put

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: Like he's kind of like a great like emergency quarterback

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Speaker 1: right for anybody. Right, But I think the Ravens ideally,

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Speaker 1: if you were going to cut Snoop or Josh Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Field's back up. Yeah, right, Like for the same reasons

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Speaker 1: the Ravens don't run that system. So Snoop's advantage in

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Speaker 1: if Lamar went down. He doesn't hold that advantage anymore.

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Speaker 1: So if you're talking about just pure passing, who's veteran

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Speaker 4: What could I think?

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Speaker 2: I think that as we've talked about before, like I

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Speaker 2: don't know that the run, like the running is not

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Speaker 3: And so that is an asset.

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Speaker 1: That and that's what we talked about after the first

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Speaker 4: That's valuable.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the other factor.

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Speaker 2: Here is, like, is Snoop one hundred per saying healthy,

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Speaker 2: Like where where does that stand? And like if you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, what I mean either way, if you

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Speaker 1: him because the hamstring, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I would say that just that just if he if

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Speaker 2: if you didn't feel totally confident about his availability going

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Speaker 2: into week one, then you probably have to keep three.

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Speaker 4: Quarterbacks, right right right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think in a perfect scenario, you

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Speaker 1: up if needed. Yeah, like if another that's the best

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Speaker 2: Another team ends up having some quarterback health issues and

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Speaker 2: ends up calling Josh, then you could have a decision

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Speaker 2: to make whether you say, okay, we'll bring him up

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Speaker 3: He may say I'd want to go and play for

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Speaker 2: We get a chance to play like he you know,

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Speaker 2: he's bounced around, you know, half the teams in the

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Speaker 3: Able to do that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think again, I think that's probably one

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Speaker 2: of the toughest decisions, and I think Josh made it

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Speaker 2: even tougher tonight with a really good performance. Oh by

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Speaker 2: the way, a little little plug here for Ravens Press Pass.

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Speaker 2: I thought Josh Johnson's press conference tonight was really good.

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Speaker 2: I think it just shows you the perspective that he

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Speaker 2: has as a guy that's bounced around between these teams

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Speaker 2: and going into kind of the anxious moments of as

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Speaker 2: you wait for the final cut down. You can listen

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Speaker 2: to that full press conference from Josh and the Ravens

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Speaker 2: Press Pass podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yeah totally.

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Speaker 1: So. Another guy that we've spent a fair amount of

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Speaker 1: kind talking about at running back is Keith Mitchell, who

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Speaker 1: did not play at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't dress. What do you make in that situation, get.

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Speaker 2: Well, he had the shoulder stinger last game. He did

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Speaker 2: practice this week, but you know, maybe they didn't want

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Speaker 2: it's he could.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how serious it is.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like it's anything serious, but the health

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Speaker 2: may have prevented him from from playing. You know, I

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Speaker 2: think that you know, we both you and I both

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Speaker 2: put Keaton Mitchell on our fifty three and when we

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Speaker 2: did our fifty three prediction you keeping them on.

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Speaker 4: I'm sticking with it.

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Speaker 2: You're sticking with it. They're probably you're makering.

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Speaker 1: With the rest of the fifty three. No, I think

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Speaker 1: I think actually consistent stay. I was consistent. I think

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Speaker 1: I remained.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we know we know the move.

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Speaker 2: Typically you do want you do two different ones, and

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Speaker 2: then then you claim that you're correct on both of them.

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Speaker 4: We know exactly.

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Speaker 4: Just cut him now. They I think he had more,

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Speaker 1: he really likes him at outside corner and he's practiced well.

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Speaker 1: And here's a guy who's gotten a lot of reps,

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Speaker 1: the coaches have seen a lot. He knows the defense

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Speaker 1: a lot better than Ronald Darby.

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Speaker 3: That would be my guess, like my guess right now

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Speaker 3: that it would be brand Steeds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think that's how I feel.

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Speaker 1: Darby would have two more weeks to get ready in

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Speaker 1: that position if you were going to be it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's probably between those guys. Don't walk Kevon,

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Speaker 1: But I think it's probably those two guys are a

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Speaker 3: All Right, so let's take a quick break and then

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Speaker 2: he announced that John Simpson is going to be the

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Speaker 2: left guard. This is a competition throughout training camp and

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Speaker 2: it kind of became clear, i would say, over the

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Speaker 2: past you know, two weeks that John Simpson was going

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Speaker 2: to be the guy. This is a veteran, he's done it.

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Speaker 2: They gave Saul the reps with the ones in mini

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Speaker 2: camp early in training camp, and then they flipped it

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Speaker 2: to John Simpson. And then once Simpson got back in

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Speaker 2: there with the ones, he never he never let up.

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Speaker 2: And so it's official Simpson is going to be the

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Speaker 2: starting left guard. What's your take on that and what

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Speaker 2: we saw from solid tonight.

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Speaker 1: Well, Gary, this is one of those moments where I

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Speaker 1: want you to give me my problems.

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Speaker 3: I will you did, you did? I will give you. You

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Speaker 3: said last.

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Speaker 2: Year when the Ravens signed John Simpson back in December January, whatever,

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Speaker 2: it was that this guy could be a starter this year.

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Speaker 2: You could be the late season stash and he could

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Speaker 2: end up being the starting left guard a year from now.

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Speaker 2: So I do, I do transconceive me right now? Give

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Speaker 2: you credit where credit is due. You called this one

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Speaker 2: nine months ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, here's a guy who.

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Speaker 4: Don't try to take away.

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Speaker 1: Right now, don't even try to take away much shine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy who started had a full

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Speaker 1: season starting with the Raiders, you know, two years ago,

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Speaker 1: and so uh, you know, he's a very quality player,

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Speaker 1: big body, dude, He's he's been been very solid.

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Speaker 4: Sala.

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Speaker 1: I liked Sala's potential. You know, we all got I

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Speaker 1: think swept up in the story of like could a

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Speaker 1: six round rookie become the rape? Could could he become.

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Speaker 4: A starter immediately? You know?

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Speaker 1: It was a good story, and and I like Sala

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Speaker 1: and he's worked really hard, and I just like everything

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Speaker 1: about it. I think the preseason games have shown he's

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Speaker 1: just not ready to be a starter right now.

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Speaker 4: Right He's got I like the ceiling there.

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Speaker 1: But the Ravens, I think when they drafted him saw

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Speaker 1: him as a developmental kind of player, and that's born

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Speaker 1: out to be true. I think from what we've seen

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Speaker 1: in the reps in the preseason. Now, the issue here

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line is how good do you feel

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Speaker 1: about Sala being your backup guard? If John Simpson were

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Speaker 1: to go down or Kevin Zeidler were to go down,

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Speaker 1: Who's your backup guard is Sala? Has Salah not been

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Speaker 1: strong enough in the preseason to give you a lot

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Speaker 1: of faith in that right? Because John Harball said we

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Speaker 1: need to get Sala ready to play. He needs to

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Speaker 1: be ready to play, is what John Harball said tonight, now,

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Speaker 1: which I agree with. Of course, he needs to be

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Speaker 1: ready to play if he's going to be on the

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Speaker 1: fifty three. But Patrick McCarry, I think this is part

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Speaker 1: of the beauty of Pat right. This is why the

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Speaker 1: Ravens resigned Patrick McCarry, is that he can step in

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Speaker 1: at GUARD I think if John Simpson whatever went down

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Speaker 1: in week one again knock on everything, knock on wood, right,

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Speaker 1: if they needed somebody to step in for John Simpson,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be Pat McCay probably right now

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Speaker 1: at GUARD week one.

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Speaker 4: That would be my expectation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again teasing or you know, referencing back to

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Speaker 2: the fifty three man roster prediction you had the extra

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman being Sam Musterford.

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Speaker 3: Back up center. Yep, yeah, I did not have him on,

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Speaker 3: you know, it seems.

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Speaker 2: And then John Harball at his press conference at the

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Speaker 2: end of the week made the point that like he's

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Speaker 2: put himself in a position to help us this.

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Speaker 1: Year, to be a contributor this year, put himself in

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Speaker 1: position to be a contributor for us. Is the exact quote,

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Speaker 1: which is the best part of my week. During the

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Speaker 1: press conference, As John Harball is saying this and talking,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just that he's like talking about how great

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Speaker 1: he's been. Sam Mustford during the press commins, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: across the way to you and just nodding, just, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Best part of my week.

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Speaker 2: Similarly, similarly, I will say he has some very high

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Speaker 2: praise for del Sean Phillips tonight in his press cons

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Speaker 2: as well, and that was where.

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Speaker 4: That's what's that's what's killing me. That was where we differed.

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Speaker 3: That was where we differed on our fifty three.

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Speaker 2: You had Muster for I had del Shaun Phillips, and

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Speaker 2: del Shawn Phillips is you know, he's been a good

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Speaker 2: special teamer. The Ravens feel like he could be, you know,

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Speaker 2: one of the top special teamers on this team. He

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Speaker 2: has that ability and he and John Harbo said he

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Speaker 2: really shined. His linebacker took a big step this year

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Speaker 2: in training camp in that regard to is a backup there,

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Speaker 2: So I think he is probably I think Phillips is

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Speaker 2: on and you know, and then as you're building out

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Speaker 2: that fifty three that the conversation honestly probably comes back

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Speaker 2: to Keaton Mitchell to some degree. There you kind of

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Speaker 2: work your way back to that running back conversation again.

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Speaker 2: And do you have the space there or do you

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Speaker 2: want that to go to must have heard or or

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Speaker 2: or do you want that to go to del Shaun Phillips.

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Speaker 3: You need an extra.

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Speaker 1: Card exactly that to me, to me, Theton Mitchell, it's

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Speaker 1: Keaton Mitchell versus del Sewn Phillips right, and one is

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Speaker 1: like the upside of Keaton Mitchell and the long term,

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Speaker 1: you know, could this guy be a player for us

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Speaker 1: on offense? You know, versus like do you need that

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Speaker 1: special teams line or primarily special teams inside linebacker in

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Speaker 1: Delshean Phillips on your roster?

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Speaker 4: Do you have to have that guy? Right? And that's

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Speaker 4: the question, right?

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Speaker 2: And this is like kind of got sidetracked here and

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Speaker 2: going talking about linebacker and center and running back, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of this does focus on come back to

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Speaker 2: the offensive line to a certain degree as well. All

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Speaker 2: these things are connected, you know, with the offensive line

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Speaker 2: and Sala. It's like, do you if you don't Ben Cleveland, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you don't feel like Sala could be ready to

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Speaker 2: step in Week one as a backup guard, then do

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Speaker 2: you need to keep Ben Cleveland?

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Speaker 4: Right? Or does Pat McCarey fill that sid I think.

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Speaker 3: Pat Carey certainly can fill that spot, but Pat McCarey's.

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Speaker 1: So if you feel confident that Pat McCarey can can

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Speaker 1: fill that spot. And it was interesting that in Saturday

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Speaker 1: Nights in tonight's preseason game, they had fil play some

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Speaker 1: at left tackle if can be your emergency left tackle.

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Speaker 1: Let's say McCarey's needed at guard, backup guard, and then

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Speaker 1: you needed a left tackle to step in, and now

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Speaker 1: it's the apocalypse.

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Speaker 3: First of all, how many can take? You see plans?

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Speaker 3: Do you need?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the way you think when you're making

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Speaker 1: the roster right.

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Speaker 4: A, it's not a good if. That's just not a

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Speaker 4: good situation anyway you slice it.

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Speaker 2: B Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, if they have some confidence that Fole could

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Speaker 1: step in at left tackle, then that does free up

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Speaker 1: Pat McCarey to be your backup guard at right and

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Speaker 1: left guard if need be. If sala is not ready,

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Speaker 1: and that leaves if you do believe that to be true,

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Speaker 1: or if you're just willing to gamble that, Okay, Pat

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Speaker 1: mcarey's are starting our backup left tackle, plus he's the

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Speaker 1: backup at left guard and right guard. If you're willing

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Speaker 1: to gamble with that, then then benk Cleveland doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a spot. If you're not willing to gamble with that,

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Speaker 1: and you don't think that sala is ready to be

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Speaker 1: the backup, then you do need benkleve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the calculation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you laid it out pretty well.

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Speaker 1: There and now and now back to inside linebacker with

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Speaker 1: Delseean Phillips. You know that to me, he's like the

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Speaker 1: fifty third guy. He's he's like who you're making that

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Speaker 1: roster decision about? Do you keep getting Keaton Mitchell? Do

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Speaker 1: you keep that extra offensive lineman?

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Speaker 4: Kayu?

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Speaker 1: You know the cornerback situation? How many quarterbacks you need

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Speaker 1: to keep? Del Sean Phillips is the guy who I

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Speaker 1: don't have on my fifty three projection, who that I

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Speaker 1: don't feel good about. But I think that like if

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Speaker 1: Keaton Mitchell order to land on IR or let's just

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Speaker 1: say Tyas Bowser remains on the pub list. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: that's the other thing we haven't talked about or NFI. Right,

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Speaker 1: if he starts the season on physically unable to perform,

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Speaker 1: which would sideline him for the first four weeks, then

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Speaker 1: that opens up a spot for del Sean Phillips.

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Speaker 2: Yep, right, And this week could be big to see

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Speaker 2: if Tyas Bouser gets back to practice, Like I mean, if.

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Speaker 1: He's not on the practice field on Monday, he hasn't.

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Speaker 1: He's missed all of training camp, He's missed all the preseason,

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Speaker 1: if he's.

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Speaker 3: Not practicing basic offseason, like, yeah, if.

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Speaker 1: He's not practiced on Monday, you're less than two weeks

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Speaker 1: out on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: To expect the guy to ramp up with no practice

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Speaker 1: this offseason, It's not like he was OTA's Mini camp, nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 1: To expect him to go get ready in two weeks

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Speaker 1: I think would be a tall task. Now the question

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Speaker 1: is though.

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Speaker 3: How long?

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Speaker 4: It's four games? Four games?

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Speaker 1: Sure, maybe you if you know he's not ready for

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Speaker 1: week one, but would he be ready for week two?

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Speaker 1: But you know this is a starter, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a high level player for them, important player.

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Speaker 4: Would he be ready for week three? That's the whole

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Speaker 4: question mark.

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Speaker 1: How much of a runway does Tias Bowser need to

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Speaker 1: get ready? That plays into the roster decisions here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely the other and I have Tias Bowser. John Harvill

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Speaker 1: said he expects him to be ready for week one,

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Speaker 1: just to put it out there, So that's why I

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Speaker 1: have him on my fifty three. John Harvill said that

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago. But you know, if I don't see

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Speaker 1: Bowser out there on Monday, I might be.

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Speaker 3: Going You might be that one might be tweaking that

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Speaker 3: fifty time.

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Speaker 4: I might be tweaking.

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Speaker 1: I might be erasing that one and putting him on

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Speaker 1: bup and that was up a spot for my guy

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Speaker 1: del Sean right.

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Speaker 2: The other just quick notes on the receiver competition. I

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Speaker 2: think Tylan Wallace, you know, continued to really kind of

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Speaker 2: solidify his spot. You know, all almost almost had the

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Speaker 2: trifecta there with the touchdown basically the same play in

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Speaker 2: three straight games with the back shoulder of the.

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Speaker 1: Front would have been amazing. If that throw was a

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Speaker 1: little further outside. He had it.

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Speaker 2: Really nice defensive play too to break it up and

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Speaker 2: get a hand in there. But I think Tiland Wallace

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Speaker 2: is on. You know, I think Dante DIMIs really showed up.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be on the fifty three,

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Speaker 2: but I think that, you know, I think he made

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Speaker 2: a strong case for himself as a practice Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like you know, in those last games, in that last game,

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Speaker 2: when you're looking at filling out a practice squad, Dante

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Speaker 2: dem Is coming up with some big jump ball plays.

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Speaker 2: Like I think that he helped his case to earn it.

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Speaker 1: When Sean Ryan, who's had a good training camp, you know,

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Speaker 1: has one bounce off his fingertips. Yeah, touchdown, yeah right,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure he's feeling sick. Shawn's credit, like,

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Speaker 1: I think he's had a really.

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Speaker 4: Good training camp.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Demis made the plays in the in the

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Speaker 1: last preseason game.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's a turt, so he's got back for him.

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Speaker 1: So I put no question ohen Owen Right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean the running back carries eighty nine yards in a

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Speaker 1: touch down. You know, depending all this stuff with Keith Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: if if keithon Mitchell's not on the practice squad, does

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Speaker 1: Owen right get win a practice squad job? I think

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Speaker 1: he certainly put himself in position. You know, Travis Spokelek

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Speaker 1: the tight end made you know, after two touchdowns on

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Speaker 1: mone Night football had one catcher five yards. It was

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Speaker 1: a nice catch, but really did not see much action.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy I don't think there's space

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Speaker 1: for more than fifty three, but probably another guy the

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Speaker 1: Ravens would love to have on the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think he's a very strong practice

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Speaker 2: squad candidate. And then you know this isn't really fifty

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Speaker 2: three related, but I think we talked to Charlie Kohler

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Speaker 2: after the game, you know, he met with the media,

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Speaker 2: and I think that he continued a strong preseason. I

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Speaker 2: was encouraged by what I saw from him and his

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Speaker 2: you know, essentially his his rookie preseason, and I think that,

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Speaker 2: you know, if he ends up the Ravens end up

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Speaker 2: needing to give him snaps this year. Like, I'm encouraged

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Speaker 2: by what I saw from him in the preseason that

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Speaker 2: he could contribute if called upon this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One other note for me just from the game.

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Speaker 1: A player that we did not see. We didn't see

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Speaker 1: Ronald dar or Jadavion Clowney and others talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: could we see them in the preseason finale they did

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Speaker 1: not play. Another one that was interesting I thought was

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Speaker 1: Arthur Morlette because that's an interesting roster decision in part,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we're talking about the corners, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I have eight corners on my fifty three. Now Pepe's

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Speaker 1: going to irs. That really leaves seven. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to get Arthur Molett on there. Here's a veteran.

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Speaker 1: Is there some way to get him on? You know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't play tonight. He's been dealing with injury I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if there's a way to

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Speaker 1: get him on, but I think that he's somebody that

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Speaker 1: they'll be having conversations about, especially because he's a slot

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Speaker 1: corner and.

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Speaker 4: Pepe's down right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, so right now, if you're looking at slot corner,

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Speaker 1: art Arius Washington is your guy. You know, he's one

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Speaker 1: of the matchup guys that I think they're going to

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Speaker 1: use matchup a matchup kind of player, rotate different guys

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Speaker 1: in at the slot. Art Arius is one of those players.

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Speaker 1: It could be Brandon Stevens, it could be Kyle Homilton.

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Speaker 1: I think you'd like to have Arthur Molett. You know,

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Speaker 1: like if I'm lining up week one and he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: I kind of like Arthur Mullett.

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Speaker 2: I think he's another one. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 2: a broken record here, but it's like it's health. He's

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Speaker 2: missed timed during training camp. And you know, if if

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Speaker 2: you're keeping him on because you're shorthanded at the position,

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Speaker 2: you need to know that keeping him prevents you from

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Speaker 2: being short handed. You can't help me both short handed

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Speaker 2: if he's prevent you to avoid provide.

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Speaker 1: But kind of kind of the thing, right the kind

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Speaker 1: of the thing at corner is you're short handed with

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Speaker 1: Marlon and Pepe Down. I think you have at this

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Speaker 1: point with the signing of Ronald Darby, you have enough

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Speaker 1: outside corners. You have Rock Brandon, Stevens, Keevan and Jalen

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00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Armor Davis are really primarily outside guys, which you don't

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Speaker 1: have a whole lot of is Pepe replacements.

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Speaker 3: Washington Stevens can go both.

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Speaker 1: Stevens, Stevens can go both, you know. But John Harball

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Speaker 1: said that he likes him on the outside best of

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Speaker 1: all he does. And now ourd Arius obviously is the guy.

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Speaker 1: But I'd like Arthur Mallette, I think I think.

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Speaker 2: Would like I would like Mallette. I think he's all so,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's he's one of those guys as a

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Speaker 2: vested veteran who could end up getting released and boomerang back.

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Speaker 2: Would not surprise me if that ends up happening. Yep,

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Speaker 2: you know that that's a possibility with him as well.

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Speaker 2: And if he needed to get that you need a

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Speaker 2: little bit more time to get that hamstring right or whatever.

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Speaker 2: He I can't remember if it's a hamstring or something else,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, but if he needed a little bit more

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Speaker 2: time to get to get right, then that could potentially

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Speaker 2: be another avenue.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, I completely agree.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Garrett, any final thoughts, No, I.

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Speaker 3: Think that's it.

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Speaker 2: You know, it'll be an interesting these next Honestly, these

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Speaker 2: next like three days or among my least favorite, they

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Speaker 2: really are. It's it's like it's got I don't even

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00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: like walking down to the cafeteria. You see guys walking

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Speaker 2: out of the building, you know, carrying a bag, and

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Speaker 2: it's just it's it's disappointing. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: these guys, a lot of them end up back on

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Speaker 2: the practice squad or on other teams. But it's a

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Speaker 2: tough few days. So definitely feel for these guys as

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00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: they kind of wait anxiously by the phone, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a challenging time in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's glass half empty. I'm glass half fool.

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Speaker 1: Hey, a lot of guys, you know, some of these

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00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: guys get their dreams come true.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 4: You know, you make the team.

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Speaker 1: You're a whoever Keithon Mitchell, whoever it is. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: you make the team. Dream comes true. I'll think about

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Speaker 1: that guy too.

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Speaker 3: There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I got both sides anyway, so it's always thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening. You can email us with the lounge at

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Speaker 2: Ravens dot NFL died NAT. We appreciate you guys for

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00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: sending your emails. Let us know what thought you have

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Speaker 2: going in week one and we will talk with you

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Speaker 2: again as soon