Speaker 1: Ain't nobody stood before the world and total crips and blood.
Speaker 1: And not only to that, I said, Raymond Washington in
Speaker 1: took not only that, I said, Nipsey Hustle too his mama.
Speaker 1: So they were trying to take my gun license from me,
Speaker 1: but they couldn't, So no jug would deem me a
Speaker 1: mentally unstable. It was my rhetoric. So they're going off
Speaker 1: my internet rhetoric. Homes better be careful what you say.
Speaker 1: Like most get into this life and can't take the
Speaker 1: costume off. So to get stuck on stage, Lord Nip
Speaker 1: got stuck on stage. Nip ain't on the sideline talking
Speaker 1: to these Jewish billionaire and millionaire investors. They're talking to
Speaker 1: Iramis when when he was going down there to talk
Speaker 1: to the police department to create this new game and
Speaker 1: send it for in the sixties. Mad at Iramis for
Speaker 1: doing this in the name of Nip sixties.
Speaker 2: Wasn't happy with nilp with that ideology.
Speaker 3: I would say that they wouldn't have let Whack one
Speaker 3: hundred in them move around as much as they was.
Speaker 1: Black one hundred don't move around, You're going to jail.
Speaker 1: You go up there, Whack one hundred.
Speaker 2: No, No, they know the Feds in now. Yeah, now
Speaker 2: we know they Look, he said, the Fed came and
Speaker 2: got me ad me about it.
Speaker 1: Everybody that went there that winter, they the fast in
Speaker 1: now they ain't watching they in now in now. What
Speaker 1: do you think about Larry who will being partoned by
Speaker 1: President truck It's.
Speaker 2: Been in the making for men. But to him, in
Speaker 2: his mind, he's free now.
Speaker 1: If he never come home free, we don't know what
Speaker 1: it's like to be locked in the bathroom forty four decades. Man,
Speaker 1: he never seen the sun in four decades. He ain't
Speaker 1: been hugged, he ain't been touched. He can shake a hand,
Speaker 1: he can talk to somebody. He can walk around a
Speaker 1: y'all with a gate in it and feel like he
Speaker 1: in the ocean.
Speaker 2: Ten ninety Jake, I hate who?
Speaker 1: I hate him? Why he don't say nothing about the
Speaker 1: Mexican cartel they tell there's plenty of paperwork on who've
Speaker 1: been told on about the Mesican plug cause nigga, he
Speaker 1: know them cartel and Missan. There's some consequences repercussion. It
Speaker 1: ain't no consequences in repercussion with the pigeon. I can't
Speaker 1: say this. There should be a call of action to
Speaker 1: do something.
Speaker 4: Now if you ain't talking to the name in look
Speaker 4: they say this, guys, didn't limit. I'm going farther than that.
Speaker 4: She can building on my phone, so I called her mom,
Speaker 4: come and get your all the bat. They just want
Speaker 4: a little better than get them boys wagon what male
Speaker 4: on and I boys your brain, but get a hard hat.
Speaker 4: They did disguis a limb. I'm going fall or you
Speaker 4: can try to but can't. Kim I'm the bad I
Speaker 4: just bought a nigga life as in did decide come
Speaker 4: with that art?
Speaker 2: You lead the reason you broke?
Speaker 4: You don't know how a horse I'm trying it ain't no,
Speaker 4: I'm stressed.
Speaker 2: Some red run red dye.
Speaker 4: He he block one twelve come out. You know I'm
Speaker 4: thinking to the fullets asking for a bullet because he
Speaker 4: never felt want to sticking to the waters and nail
Speaker 4: guns right with my dogs. Trn a nail something.
Speaker 3: And got your yo yo. Welcome to us up there podcast.
Speaker 3: You know the vibes. I'm your active and attractive host
Speaker 3: or another episode of the fastest growing podcast on the market.
Speaker 3: Right now, man, you know the vibes. I got one
Speaker 3: of them. News in here today.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You know, I got a guy who has took the
Speaker 3: Internet by storm, transition in all kinds of business ventures.
Speaker 3: This dude has elevated his brand in ways that only
Speaker 3: a few people, and I'm talking one hand, have been
Speaker 3: able to do. I got charged in White man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what's one of my cameras so they don't
Speaker 1: think I'm drunk?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, no man.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know Charleston White the song or rat William
Speaker 1: to some mothers. Uh, Uncle Rutgers too many, Uh to
Speaker 1: a lot of young people of America's favorite uncle.
Speaker 3: Yes, lord, for sure you've been You've been smoking this
Speaker 3: thing of yours. Man, I've seen you out at Silver
Speaker 3: says shut out Silver sad.
Speaker 1: Shut out Silver say in the town yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: you know it was a line out to do it
Speaker 1: when we pulled up here with plenty of calls, so
Speaker 1: I knew that was the chosen spot.
Speaker 2: Right right. What what I think? I want to ask you?
Speaker 2: What makes you.
Speaker 3: Want to make yourself that accessible when you come into
Speaker 3: cities or in the ghetto, because that's the ghetto, right,
Speaker 3: What makes you what makes you disregards some of the
Speaker 3: prior things that has happened, like when we talk about
Speaker 3: and when we talk about some of these people that
Speaker 3: run into unforeseen circumstance.
Speaker 1: My wisdom, a lot of people say, my wisdom won't
Speaker 1: allow me to do it in in in Chicago, New York.
Speaker 1: We're not New York because I haven't been to Brownsville, Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: to the bottom bottom of New York. But but California.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: In Chicago, Uh, I wouldn't do this, even though I
Speaker 1: have done it, But I wouldn't openly go go live
Speaker 1: because I know the gang cultures supersed morals humanity.
Speaker 2: In pan Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so uh, what will make me will make me
Speaker 1: do it? Homie, is uh all of our heroes, all
Speaker 1: of our great black leaders before us, from from Ali
Speaker 1: uh to Richard Pryor, that they have always been able
Speaker 1: to walk amongst the people. They didn't need security because
Speaker 1: they was loved and amongst the people.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It wasn't into the rapping, got got into the rap
Speaker 1: industry that that that, uh, they started dying amongst their people.
Speaker 1: But you're prior to that.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Prior to that entertainer didn't die amongst these people.
Speaker 2: I was loved.
Speaker 1: Even now Michael Jackson couldn't do it. But sometimes he did.
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson went to the hospital, he walked amongst the
Speaker 1: people and caused the hysteria. But Nigga uh Ali was
Speaker 1: the greatest, and he walked these kids to school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll never want to get too far from
Speaker 1: my people. Why I can't do what I did today?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know with me, bro, And I was talking
Speaker 3: to him about this my camera guys that.
Speaker 1: Because anybody got to ask trade for me before I
Speaker 1: spark up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I ain't wonder on the floor,
Speaker 1: you shure right, I got one right here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh but but I think because of what I've been through, Bro,
Speaker 3: like the dope game, I think it ruined me.
Speaker 2: It ruined my it walked mine reality.
Speaker 1: Post traumatic If you sold dope and you did it
Speaker 1: for a long time, Uh, you got some post traumatic
Speaker 1: stress disorder from nothing else. Paranoid schizophrena Yeah, you distrustful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and homie you in your sleep. Oh, even though you
Speaker 1: change your life, Oh, there's still some residue.
Speaker 3: That's the whole fact. Still some residu And that's what
Speaker 3: I think. That's what because for me, it's like cause
Speaker 3: I can have a hundred up here, I can go
Speaker 3: in you know, what I'm saying, But it's just won't
Speaker 3: my my, my, my, my brain won't allow it because
Speaker 3: I've been through so much in adult them. Hold on
Speaker 3: me around here, send me to you, see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's like, and this was a dude I helped
Speaker 3: for nine years. So when I when I got when
Speaker 3: I went through that, it broke me in a way.
Speaker 2: Bro I ain't I still ain't repaired that.
Speaker 1: Or betrayal is something homie that that that damage and
Speaker 1: scars people hearts forever, and some people never recover. It
Speaker 1: takes a certain type of person that can commend the
Speaker 1: wound of betrayal and still intally trust. Again, that's with
Speaker 1: this woman. Yeah, a lot of up because they've been
Speaker 1: betrayed by somebody. The woman take the brunt of it.
Speaker 1: That's she can't get. She can't get the foolness in
Speaker 1: the wholeness of him. He's distrustful because what somebody else did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you come so before you got into this?
Speaker 3: What was Charleston White doing? I know you was an activist.
Speaker 3: We talked before and also for people who don't know me,
Speaker 3: and I really had the first charge in White real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so so so.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: You was one of the people, homie that you displayed
Speaker 1: journalistic characteristics and traits way back then. So you got here,
Speaker 1: This was on on a Facebook interview. Uh in the
Speaker 1: car I drove parked somewhere talk cut the light on. Uh,
Speaker 1: but you was really trying to how like the man
Speaker 1: and not the character.
Speaker 2: Yes, you really got.
Speaker 1: The backstory, the whole thing, got the whole backstory. How
Speaker 1: you get it, how you become why they You captured
Speaker 1: the whole story, But the Internet wasn't interested in it,
Speaker 1: right and you brought years later?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they came minister.
Speaker 3: But but see also I was so I was so
Speaker 3: hung up on making sure the quality was so right.
Speaker 3: And I was in I was in the It was
Speaker 3: both of us was just starting. I was in the
Speaker 3: little room. You know what I'm saying. You was in
Speaker 3: the car, but you was kicking all that ship that
Speaker 3: done got millions and millions of views at this point.
Speaker 3: You were kicking that on my ship way back then.
Speaker 1: So you've always been so I'm not big on Facebook then.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, homee. So you you was on your way
Speaker 1: to go get a deal. I hadn't even really got
Speaker 1: on Instagram yet.
Speaker 3: Right, I was just big on Facebook. Yeah, but but
Speaker 3: it was so potent that was taking it too Instagram.
Speaker 3: That's how you know you really got something. Theyself they
Speaker 3: were getting paid off YouTube. I had no idea you
Speaker 3: get paid off the ship, I was saying.
Speaker 1: So it was almost two years when a boy people
Speaker 1: making money off my videos. I was doing off Facebook
Speaker 1: before I even realize you can get paid.
Speaker 3: Do you realize that you were stepping on your clippers?
Speaker 3: You really had clippers back then, but you were stepping
Speaker 3: on them. You would get I'd be ready to take
Speaker 3: my shiit down. I'll be tad free posting my this
Speaker 3: was your clippers.
Speaker 2: Took me a while to realize it. But but man,
Speaker 2: I ain't know. I'm trying to learn.
Speaker 1: But what can you learn?
Speaker 2: You're asking people this, They acting like they know you're
Speaker 2: paying them.
Speaker 1: You know, you know your locals. They talking like, man,
Speaker 1: I can do this, okay. Then they saying what I'm
Speaker 1: doing wrong? Okay, what I need to do right?
Speaker 2: Then everybody's saying what I'm doing wrong.
Speaker 1: Nobody could tell me what to do right. So I
Speaker 1: learned how to do right from doing wrong. Like most
Speaker 1: kids who come from our community, I learned how to
Speaker 1: do what's right on the internet by doing everything wrong,
Speaker 1: losing shit. So would nobody teach me? So it was
Speaker 1: try the narrows. So I'm bashing them until somebody said
Speaker 1: they're marketing, marketing, these are commercials, billboard striking them, so
Speaker 1: got pulled back. But your striking are man.
Speaker 3: You were striking man. I remember you go down there,
Speaker 3: you you was on there. You will go live and
Speaker 3: go to striking them niggas.
Speaker 2: This one of them.
Speaker 1: Channel off the payment and I'll pay you the payment.
Speaker 1: I'm you're stealing my ship and I ain't but you.
Speaker 1: That was Clippers. That's what them streaming on right now.
Speaker 1: That was the first Clippers that I seen. But yours
Speaker 1: was Clippers because your ship was so potent.
Speaker 3: The Aidan Ross and the Neons and the Consenet and them,
Speaker 3: they got Clippers, some of them they're paying.
Speaker 2: But also they got a large fan base.
Speaker 3: Your fan base at the time wasn't even as large
Speaker 3: as large as it is now, but it was so
Speaker 3: potent that they were waving your flag. They on YouTube
Speaker 3: waving your flag.
Speaker 1: Tightening King Cash is King Cashes at that time had
Speaker 1: like two three hundred thousand followers. He was daily getting
Speaker 1: selling eight hundred thousand views off the ship I was
Speaker 1: doing off Facebook. I got this channel took down, but
Speaker 1: I ain't knowing at the time. It took me four
Speaker 1: to five years to realize this is how you conquer
Speaker 1: the algorithm.
Speaker 2: Your clippers exactly. You need the exactly yourself.
Speaker 1: You think you're doing it by yourself, it's all these
Speaker 1: people who've been taking your ship. It took me four
Speaker 1: five years to realize that. Now, I ain't never gotta
Speaker 1: go live. That's why hardly go live.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm saying, I think, make a video somewhere
Speaker 2: my clipper, go take it, and it's gonna go to Twitter.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so what that does is they helped me
Speaker 1: sell concert tickets, that helped me sell merchandise, or they
Speaker 1: get me booked for interview. I ain't got the money.
Speaker 1: Tize over there.
Speaker 2: Y'all have it.
Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all have it.
Speaker 3: And here's another trick. So nov Green was going through that.
Speaker 3: Now if it's one of my partners too, you know
Speaker 3: he do this thing called not night shift but supervisor.
Speaker 2: What is this ship nav Green do? Uh?
Speaker 3: Well, he act like the shift leader. He do the
Speaker 3: shift leader at the at the like Burger King McDonald. Shit,
Speaker 3: it's a little skitch. So a young for Memphis had
Speaker 3: turned him up on TikTok millions and millions of views.
Speaker 3: So now Green had his team reach out to him
Speaker 3: and was ignoring them because he thinking they gonna run
Speaker 3: it like you running, they gonna try to take me down,
Speaker 3: So he ignored them. Nav Green them just had to
Speaker 3: send him a blind DM like, bro, we ain't trying
Speaker 3: to take you down. Just cut us in twenty percent
Speaker 3: of anything. Just throw us something because we're shooting his content.
Speaker 3: It costing us money. So they made a deal. They
Speaker 3: did shoot him some money. Dude, still run their page millions.
Speaker 1: Oh it's it's a it's a it's a channel on
Speaker 1: TikTok Boss or young Boss. Some on TikTok tl Young Boss.
Speaker 1: He do millions of Charleston White. I started beefing with
Speaker 1: him home, really out. But but I didn't realize at
Speaker 1: the time. I'm thinking, man, it's stilling my content. He
Speaker 1: making me a worldwide brand.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't the fact.
Speaker 1: That he getting all these millions of ye and I'm
Speaker 1: realizing he making some money, he making you a worldwide brand,
Speaker 1: and you ain't paying him. The nigga. All he doing
Speaker 1: is just taking your real life street stall video. So so.
Speaker 2: I think I spent a.
Speaker 1: Year of squabbling with him. I look at TikTok. One
Speaker 1: day I got over two billion hashtag Charleston White. That
Speaker 1: just hashtag.
Speaker 2: I said that billions. I got another.
Speaker 1: I got another twenty two million hashtag Charleston White misspelled
Speaker 1: with after E C H A R L S T.
Speaker 1: I got another forty million and Charleston White memes. When
Speaker 1: I added up, I'm three billion. I left him alone
Speaker 1: because he's a he's he's like a billboard for me.
Speaker 1: But but it ain't nobody teaching you this. Then you
Speaker 1: think in your content, but they really working for you,
Speaker 1: and they find their only way to pay themselves and
Speaker 1: you ain't got a pay So now I let him
Speaker 1: have it. So uh so, so all the fake pages,
Speaker 1: that's why you can't find me because I let the
Speaker 1: fake pages. Now some some fake pages scamming. I can't
Speaker 1: stop that. But if you know me, you know I
Speaker 1: like to go live. Those are billboards for me. There's
Speaker 1: a bill I I don't have to pay, no clippers.
Speaker 1: So uh I let him make their money home it.
Speaker 1: But it took me years to understand that, and it
Speaker 1: broke and angry he trying to get everything. He gets
Speaker 1: broke and.
Speaker 2: Take that ship down.
Speaker 3: But see get what this talk about the page you
Speaker 3: talking about. See, you've birthed a lot of ship man
Speaker 3: unbeknownst to you. Right like with the TL young boss individual,
Speaker 3: they've now took the platform that they've built off your
Speaker 3: back and now they're charging brands to your Oh we'll
Speaker 3: do collab posts which you will edit your ship.
Speaker 2: We'll do that. So real life street starts pay them now.
Speaker 2: Now they pay them now.
Speaker 3: Now they pay them because they built it out of
Speaker 3: what you had going on and had this big audience
Speaker 3: sitting there. So it's like I say, it's one hand
Speaker 3: washed the other both watched the face.
Speaker 1: So uh, I shouldn't have been attacking them. I should
Speaker 1: have been collaborating. Yeah, yeah, I should have. I should
Speaker 1: have been book book. But I was reflecting with what
Speaker 1: was being at me because I was being attacked every
Speaker 1: day at the time in time, I was under attack
Speaker 1: every day, all day, every day.
Speaker 2: I'm squabbing, so.
Speaker 1: Every day, all day every so in all contenders, and
Speaker 1: I was attacking back so an So yeah, uh I
Speaker 1: had to get out of tack mode. But I'm just
Speaker 1: reflecting what was before me. It wasn't until I started
Speaker 1: traveling and going places or seeing love that's when the
Speaker 1: stop attacking. It's just like them dogs that they had
Speaker 1: Michael Victims, fighting dogs.
Speaker 2: They want to biting dolls.
Speaker 1: When you take them out the fighting environments, start patting
Speaker 1: on them and loving on them.
Speaker 2: H Once I started getting to love, I started biting right.
Speaker 3: But see, I think that's why you transition right in
Speaker 3: the streaming so well as well. It's because not only
Speaker 3: are you a brand, you funding, you got your fan
Speaker 3: base and audience, but you also come with a lot
Speaker 3: of the attributes that they have. Meaning the Clippers, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that will take the ship and gonna do what they self.
Speaker 3: Eight of them got that ship, Kyle. All of them
Speaker 3: got that ship too. But you got to be a
Speaker 3: certain level to have it. Everybody got that.
Speaker 1: From from my understanding, aiding them kick uh the ones
Speaker 1: that they have agreements with them. They pay over a
Speaker 1: million dollars a month for the certain people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I've seen the.
Speaker 1: They ca pay good them good. So you know that's
Speaker 1: that's somebody that watched them every day though, And I
Speaker 1: mean you watching the whole sell our Very very few
Speaker 1: people got that kind of commitment and education.
Speaker 2: They deserve time of the night that they do it,
Speaker 2: so you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So of course, of course they deserve something. Uh. I
Speaker 1: used to be disappointed with the people around me because
Speaker 1: they wouldn't fought. They wouldn't capture this and clip what
Speaker 1: they see in real time.
Speaker 2: Yes, hum, I got a pot on.
Speaker 1: Uh men want to rollo and thug them people money?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah he locked up right now. Home member travel
Speaker 1: around the country with me. Uh, but he never pulled
Speaker 1: out the camera to capture this inside. Uh. You in
Speaker 1: the room with people if you none shake their hands
Speaker 1: and changed number. So so there's people homing who've been
Speaker 1: with me and they wasn't numbered Aaron Boys and publishers.
Speaker 1: But because they was in this position, they got some
Speaker 1: phone numbers. Now they managing some of the Biggs Internet
Speaker 1: names that y'all know today.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't have people with me, man, because
Speaker 3: I don't got no It got to be worth something.
Speaker 2: You got to be doing something around me.
Speaker 1: That's how I wouldn't manage it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: She used to be my publicist.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure did I talked to her before your behalf.
Speaker 1: She got I used to work with Charleston do this,
Speaker 1: but she had all the contact list. So if you
Speaker 1: know that, that's why he done been on the dance
Speaker 1: on all these so he so she.
Speaker 2: Just backed just got the numbers while she was with
Speaker 2: you and double back with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know so, so I would be mad in
Speaker 1: my podlast damn.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Didn't nobody get no picture?
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn. I've been talking to one of the biggest
Speaker 2: in the world for twenty minutes. Y'all didn't get no picture.
Speaker 1: No, but you gotta. You got a live video though, right,
Speaker 1: monetizing on your own. You don't own that you done
Speaker 1: gave it to them? What about hours?
Speaker 2: And you ain't sent me none?
Speaker 1: All y'all have been around me. Ain't nobody captured, it,
Speaker 1: ain't documented, We ain't got it, but other people don't
Speaker 1: have it. I'd be frustrated with my people home. And
Speaker 1: so when I learned the game or I changed the
Speaker 1: inter that game, you know, I made it possible and
Speaker 1: get five and ten thousand dollars for interview.
Speaker 2: Now it wasn't nobody getting paid again what you showed?
Speaker 2: Did bro?
Speaker 3: A lot of people say you gave up with that
Speaker 3: because everybody want to shed that that number.
Speaker 1: They were pipping on it, and then they were pimping
Speaker 1: on it when they were good. So just think about
Speaker 1: Homie they were they were getting paid Homie. I used
Speaker 1: to wonder how how to look go ya yo Niam
Speaker 1: and all the young Rappids and Soldier Boy and used
Speaker 1: to having all that goddamn money. They wasn't selling dope.
Speaker 1: Soldier Boy was the first where you can get paid off.
Speaker 1: Then in it he don't want to got all these
Speaker 1: other little drill rapper a little bit nigga. He went
Speaker 1: and showed them how to eat off. So the nigga
Speaker 1: getting YouTube chicks when YouTube was relaxed with the money.
Speaker 2: Cuss. You can show gone the.
Speaker 1: Nigga getting paid like that, nigga making it damn the
Speaker 1: thirty forty thousand a month. By the time the pandemic comes,
Speaker 1: now they tightening it up cause now they're seeing more
Speaker 1: people starting to create content.
Speaker 2: So by the time the pandemic comes, they didn't.
Speaker 1: Implement it some new rules, some new restriction to make
Speaker 1: it harder to get a little bit more money. Here
Speaker 1: I come along, I don't know the community guidelines I
Speaker 1: don't know that they.
Speaker 2: Pay more money for pre recorded.
Speaker 1: Video than they do live. I'm going live every day.
Speaker 1: My YouTube impressions is in the one hundred million, meaning
Speaker 1: I got ten thousand people, ten thousand people watching me
Speaker 1: for two hours and they watched the whole two holbuls.
Speaker 1: So that's when I learned about impression. Those are impressions.
Speaker 1: Your engagements is the comment likes, shares, the views is important.
Speaker 2: There you go. So that has something to do with
Speaker 2: the cpns on how much they pay changes. There you go.
Speaker 1: So here I am, I'm breaking all the rules with
Speaker 1: everything on the checkbox to say you're supposed to make
Speaker 1: the money. I'm making sixteen thousand dollars a month, breaking
Speaker 1: all the rule. I remember that, and I'm showing everybody
Speaker 1: what I'm making, because who ain't making this following the
Speaker 1: rules is they don't put a team together. I need
Speaker 1: all my followers to start striking his pages. So I
Speaker 1: got all these different hitting me and I don't know
Speaker 1: the rules, and you'd violated all the rules. So now
Speaker 1: they going back in your catalog.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember when you were telling
Speaker 3: YouTube as up and then your channel left you like,
Speaker 3: there you go.
Speaker 1: So I went from making in a matter of January
Speaker 1: February March April. I went from the beginning of January
Speaker 1: at the start of the pandemic making two hundred dollars
Speaker 1: within three to four months, making sixteen thousand a month.
Speaker 2: Don't know what I'm showing, Dawn Bazooka.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody Black pulled me to the side. Yeah, it's said, say, man,
Speaker 1: look at now, I give lad credit. When they took
Speaker 1: my channel, he say, hey, man, but you can't do
Speaker 1: this with all the hassan and nobody said, well, man,
Speaker 1: you should do pre records edits.
Speaker 2: I ain't and they know.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody giving me the game. So I had to lose,
Speaker 1: and in the process I said life ain't ain't ain't
Speaker 1: nobody winning. Life is learning how to lose, because you
Speaker 1: gonna get older, you go lose your heir, you'll lose
Speaker 1: family members, you'll lose your teeth, you'll lose your sight.
Speaker 1: I started learning how to lose because I started losing
Speaker 1: on Inny of Neet and that's what inspired me. Was said,
Speaker 1: should create your own website, start selling merchandise. Because I
Speaker 1: started saying, okay, with a business mindset, I just created
Speaker 1: a new page. The new page is monetized within forty
Speaker 1: eight hours time every time. So I'm saying, if they
Speaker 1: followed me like this, why wouldn't if I jump over here,
Speaker 1: Let's see if they'll follow me over here. So when
Speaker 1: I jumped over here to get the website, they started
Speaker 1: buying merchandise. The third month of sales was al up
Speaker 1: to ten thousand dollars because they were looking for a
Speaker 1: page and I have a page.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, and that's when lost his page. Think
Speaker 3: about that? So had you never just think about had
Speaker 3: you never lost the Instagram page?
Speaker 1: I had lost four Instagrams into YouTube at this time. So,
Speaker 1: and I don't win and spend all the money on
Speaker 1: guns and.
Speaker 2: Bullet what the guns?
Speaker 1: But I threatened they were put my address online, so
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm ready for wal scaring me for real?
Speaker 1: So they stockpiling weapons.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, that's what I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 1: Were you ever really felt like I'm in because you
Speaker 1: don't win to gainst some hellifast ain't nobody stood before
Speaker 1: the world and total crips and blood. And not only
Speaker 1: to that, I said, if Raymond Washington and TOOKI not
Speaker 1: only that, I said if Nipsey hustle to his mama,
Speaker 1: his baby disrespected everything. Uh uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My medical fire had said I'm homicidal and suicidal, that
Speaker 1: I want to be killed by somebody. That's my That's
Speaker 1: what my mental medical records. So they was trying to
Speaker 1: take my gun license from me, but they couldn't so
Speaker 1: so so no judge would deem me a mentally unstable.
Speaker 1: It was my rhetoric. So they're going off my internet rietoric. Hoa,
Speaker 1: better be careful what you say because the ship I'm
Speaker 1: saying online they had scared white people and they said, man,
Speaker 1: they had been calling the f beyond me, so they
Speaker 1: are They took me through the mental route and so
Speaker 1: you know they said homicide on suicidal, bout suicidal, about
Speaker 1: ideation in preparation. Those are powerful. Yeah yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you had doctrinated ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so homie.
Speaker 1: So uh so that's what made me change my tomb.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But but so you at some scared like.
Speaker 1: Woahoma, you got put my address online address, Oh and
Speaker 1: I don't in in them. California started coming to the city,
Speaker 1: but they doing it with a bluff game. So you
Speaker 1: remember the camp the Cryptni came down with the obdu
Speaker 1: Chap and here come, I told them Marvel. So they
Speaker 1: nigga coming into the city and they got the half
Speaker 1: as gangsterryp Man.
Speaker 2: He got them California.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they putting the bluff game down. Mob jam
Speaker 1: them and roll down with the gun. So yeah, nigga
Speaker 1: have put the bl but but we don't know it's
Speaker 1: the bluff game because we look respected.
Speaker 2: Oh so, yeah, I was scared, but oh that.
Speaker 1: Don't my man. That don't stop me. That don't that
Speaker 1: don't stop a warrior. Yeah I was scared, but soldiers
Speaker 1: and warriors and fighters, and yeah, you get scared, but
Speaker 1: I ain't for me. In my mind, I'm standing on right.
Speaker 1: And I used to say this online. I used to
Speaker 1: say this in a shallow though. I walked through the
Speaker 1: Valley of the Shadow with death.
Speaker 2: I shall fear no evil man.
Speaker 1: I'm speaking against evil, man, God, I'm saying evil right.
Speaker 3: And I always felt like that's what you were standing on,
Speaker 3: Like you're standing on that the universe.
Speaker 2: Gotta protect a man.
Speaker 3: But but how do you contrast that with I'm I'm
Speaker 3: speaking against evil, but I'm also saying mama.
Speaker 1: Because oh I ain't saying ear.
Speaker 2: Miss see I think you ran some mean game with
Speaker 2: that ship. Well, I think you so.
Speaker 1: So you learned this ship in college from writing papers
Speaker 1: and studying Andrew waholl And and and and and what's
Speaker 1: the other painter name, j like be Scotch. Yeah, homo,
Speaker 1: So you you from going to college, you learn, homie,
Speaker 1: that when we look at these entertainers, they're not their persona.
Speaker 1: Nipsey ain't ear miss.
Speaker 2: Or is he?
Speaker 1: Though he's not because when you go to the funeral,
Speaker 1: but you.
Speaker 2: Ain't speaking about Nipsey in the rapping context.
Speaker 1: You speak about the rolling sixty crip Nipsey that joined
Speaker 1: this gang that killed eight trays and hoovers.
Speaker 2: Aramis then joined the gang.
Speaker 1: You saying, oh, earmis joined the gang and had to
Speaker 1: play nip and couldn't take the costume off.
Speaker 2: Like O. G.
Speaker 1: Percy, like most people get into this life and can't
Speaker 1: take the costume.
Speaker 2: Off to get stuck on stage.
Speaker 1: Nip got stuck on stage. Ira Miss nip ain't on
Speaker 1: the sideline talking to these Jewish billionaire and millionaire investors
Speaker 1: who is helping him change his communities. They're talking to
Speaker 1: Iramis Irras putting nip Ass left him in the car,
Speaker 1: He ain't cousin and on six soul cuz on neighborhood.
Speaker 1: He's not neighborhood any white folks. When he was going
Speaker 1: down there to talk to the police department to create
Speaker 1: this new game or in sending program, he ain't nip
Speaker 1: can't do that. But in the sixties, mad At iramis
Speaker 1: for doing this in the name of nip sixties. Wasn't
Speaker 1: happy with nip. But when you go to the funeral,
Speaker 1: as all of us, all of us play whatever we
Speaker 1: play outside of off of Mama's poets, when we go
Speaker 1: to Mama's ports, we ain't nipped. Mama in college, hain't Nipsey,
Speaker 1: neighborhood nipa so so. So I'm sitting at the funeral.
Speaker 1: I went to the Nipsey Hustle funeral with the Rolling
Speaker 1: Sixties Cribs. One of the one of the original founders
Speaker 1: of the original Crip members, Cappuccino. So I'm riding the
Speaker 1: car with Cappuccino. I'm in the sprinter van with mss
Speaker 1: s S one of the originally these people, they these
Speaker 1: these elders in their sixties almost seventies. Uh, I'm with
Speaker 1: the originals brought foot Pooky all them. So, uh, I
Speaker 1: want to know who is Nipsey Hustle because before he died,
Speaker 1: I ain't know who the he was. I knew he
Speaker 1: was a rapper, I knew where the Rolling sixty, had
Speaker 1: never heard his music other than one the song with YG.
Speaker 1: I lived in LA at the time. Uh. I stayed
Speaker 1: on Imperial Vermont uh uh uh right there on the
Speaker 1: borderline of Denver Lanes in the Hoover's neighborhood. I worked
Speaker 1: at Diamondale Adolescent Group Home. So I ain't really know
Speaker 1: who knew it was. But when I went back home
Speaker 1: my city, from the from from the radio station, everybody,
Speaker 1: they got a whole downtown celebration by the and died
Speaker 1: in LA because we've seen some some news clipments of
Speaker 1: him talking some talk. So I'm like, so I went
Speaker 1: to saying, we got such and such a round here.
Speaker 1: That's a Nipsey Hustle. I didn't name myself. I want
Speaker 1: to name it other people who do what y'all thinking.
Speaker 1: Y'all even support these how y'all celebrated. So God made
Speaker 1: it for a way for me to get an invitation,
Speaker 1: because even though I didn't have a California driver, you
Speaker 1: had to have a California driver license. I need to
Speaker 1: get a get a ticket to the funeral. So I'm
Speaker 1: cool with Scull at the time or another original crypt
Speaker 1: or founder of the A Trade A Trade gangster crypts.
Speaker 2: I'm cool with og Scull at the time.
Speaker 1: So he's staying at King Barba Louia House. King Barba
Speaker 1: Louis is one of the original founders of the Power Up.
Speaker 1: I don't connected with all the originals. So we go
Speaker 1: to the funeral together. But me and Scull catch the
Speaker 1: uber to the sixties neighborhood, so we at the original
Speaker 1: house where the Rolling Sixties started. So I'm soaking up
Speaker 1: the history. Uh. And I still got Rolling sixty tattooed
Speaker 1: on me. So uh, I'm gonna know who nip is.
Speaker 1: So when I go to the funeral, Uh, I don't
Speaker 1: never heard of the name Nipsey. I heard the music playing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that we at the Staples Center.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm smoking to though, as the Romans do.
Speaker 2: That's about I'm smoking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wining, wrong, man, I'm wrong, Yeah, but I'm here
Speaker 3: to learn here.
Speaker 2: I don't know what nobody You're gonna soak some game.
Speaker 1: I'm here to learn who is this guy, because that's
Speaker 1: the desire of my heart. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was out of jealousy or envy, but I'm saying, I've
Speaker 1: been doing this work in this town for working and
Speaker 1: I don't get no support. I'm a little offended by this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm want a whole another mission when I go there,
Speaker 1: I ain't here for this rapping.
Speaker 2: I want to know who this nigga was.
Speaker 1: And I'm jealous that my city it's celebrating and I've
Speaker 1: been putting it. Now they going against me. So as
Speaker 1: I sat there and I listened, I heard earmis ear
Speaker 1: Miss said that was shocked. Then I heard a little
Speaker 1: boy get up there and say, last night Aramis.
Speaker 2: Came to me in a dream. I put that blunt
Speaker 2: out what.
Speaker 1: He said, what's up?
Speaker 2: Killer? And he was in heaven nigga mama.
Speaker 1: Then he went on to give a detailed account in
Speaker 1: a conversation of this guy by the name.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, when I go look at nip, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing him slap the reporter. I'm seeing I'm a sixty
Speaker 1: for anything.
Speaker 4: Uh what?
Speaker 1: But after the funeral, niggas I'm riding, I get I
Speaker 1: get a ride back home. Uhl leave me in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: He leave me in the sixties neighborhood.
Speaker 2: I don't know nobody.
Speaker 1: And I had sent them. They had a pistol and
Speaker 1: a bag of mine. He called won them sixties, one
Speaker 1: of them old sixties and said, say, man, get that bag.
Speaker 2: You got a woooo.
Speaker 1: The nigga ain't gonna give me that bag. And they
Speaker 1: know he got a pistol. Yeah, so when I asked
Speaker 1: for us out, now we'll get it to him. Now
Speaker 1: I'm over there this arm. I got a pocket full
Speaker 1: of money. Uh so the procession getting ready come uh
Speaker 1: me and Raymond Washington daughter. Uh got separated from the crowd.
Speaker 1: So nigga every set, every game. Um hm, so I
Speaker 1: got a play security. I know anything happened, you know
Speaker 1: my life. I mean yeah, just like you training today,
Speaker 1: She's gonna left me over here. So but I'm a
Speaker 1: fly smooth look uh and you never let them see
Speaker 1: you sweat. So now I want them parts, homie one thing.
Speaker 1: I want them parts home and so yeah so uh
Speaker 1: soh so I need to ride home.
Speaker 2: But but l a p D they had.
Speaker 1: They used the helicopters to to jam the cell phone towers,
Speaker 1: so we couldn't use the phones for whatever reason. Uh,
Speaker 1: they shut down all the stores, so I ain't no
Speaker 1: uber coming through California.
Speaker 2: A danger PA.
Speaker 1: And then everybody, every set in in l A. Is
Speaker 1: coming to this area.
Speaker 2: Home.
Speaker 1: You got every So this is a volcano.
Speaker 2: Uh if you go back and let's just look at
Speaker 2: the pictures home this this is a volcano.
Speaker 1: This is l A l A p D worst nightmare.
Speaker 1: So uh uh in the sixties is on edge, you know?
Speaker 1: And yeah and they tripping home it so yeah. So
Speaker 1: uh so I needed to ride back back and close
Speaker 1: to the hoovers. R So Raymond Washington best friend, big sight, Uh,
Speaker 1: big old, he don't talk. I'm talking a big old
Speaker 1: intimid days or I said, say a big site man,
Speaker 1: you can I pay you to give me.
Speaker 2: A ride back to the hood.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what hood I mean. So he said, well,
Speaker 1: I say, offer imperiod Vermont.
Speaker 2: So he tell me what it was, so we uh
Speaker 2: and if we ride now.
Speaker 1: He telled me a story of a young kid about
Speaker 1: eleven twelve years old that walked up to him and said, say,
Speaker 1: big homie, can I ask you a question? He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, why you gang banging? He said, shit, I
Speaker 1: gang bang because I was born too. He said, his
Speaker 1: young eleven twelve year old kid boy the name of
Speaker 1: Irb and say, big homie, when I grew up, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna change the hood.
Speaker 2: That wasn't Nipsey.
Speaker 1: Nipsey was just a vehicle to keep him protected. Big
Speaker 1: Sam didn't join six she nipp did. Big Sam was
Speaker 1: never cool with nip being the sixty so Irmins wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to be a gang member of a gang banker,
Speaker 1: but because he was, that cost him his life.
Speaker 2: That's crazy how decisions work, choices work, And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're trying to come out of this role
Speaker 1: or nig he ain't have no business playing that role,
Speaker 1: and you have made it to this status. So it's
Speaker 1: a it's a lesson to be learned. Homieday still on
Speaker 1: the front line telling home that uh yeah, yeah, homie,
Speaker 1: so uh uh h.
Speaker 2: But I think that the Nipsey thing is extremely interesting.
Speaker 2: Big you didn't get Big You wasn't at the funeral,
Speaker 2: was it.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a lot behind that, homie. But don't
Speaker 1: nothing happen, Homide. The fairs is saying it, but they're
Speaker 1: not saying it. And a lot of what they're saying, homie,
Speaker 1: they saying, we know, we just don't have Why you
Speaker 1: think Eric Hoole ain't dead. Yeah, they can come on
Speaker 1: home and we got we make his trade for the
Speaker 1: food to go back there, mmates make his trades.
Speaker 4: Come on.
Speaker 2: They done got at him.
Speaker 1: But they said it wasn't they the Messican did it
Speaker 1: cause the meskan But that's.
Speaker 2: Just for love for nip exactly.
Speaker 3: But if the face of the if the face of
Speaker 3: the sixties go down, man, we it's a response about that.
Speaker 3: But but now with that ideology, I would say that
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have let Whack one hundred and them move
Speaker 3: around as much as they was.
Speaker 2: Black one don't move around. Whack one ain't seen in La.
Speaker 2: But they had no jumper jumping.
Speaker 3: No, you're going to jail. You go up there and
Speaker 3: with Whack one hund we got a missle will send
Speaker 3: through that. That's a couple go to jail.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: They don't want that feed. I would have had to
Speaker 2: shad Whack up if I were man.
Speaker 1: They don't man, they know those that know, no, yeah
Speaker 1: they know the feeds in now Yeah, now we know
Speaker 1: they look, he said, the fair came and got me
Speaker 1: and asked me about it. Everybody that went there, that
Speaker 1: went to the fast in now they ain't watching.
Speaker 2: They in that in there.
Speaker 1: They in there operating with a microphone. Good you figure
Speaker 1: out who it is fed and are talking on the
Speaker 1: phone on the mic. This y'all clapping for whoa whoa
Speaker 1: whoa Mery Homer's not an entity. They don't infiltrate. They
Speaker 1: don't sitting nobody. Look how you infiltrated. You went out
Speaker 1: there and was able to get it. Walking in cowboy
Speaker 1: boots playing on Melvin from the Internet Speaking game. That's
Speaker 1: how I met Melvin Farmer from the Internet Speaking game.
Speaker 1: At the time, he was doing speaking engagement with John
Speaker 1: Gotti Jr. Uh Or what's the tone from the the
Speaker 1: Latin to the Latin King got a New York tone?
Speaker 1: Uh so Melvin former John Gotti Jr. Or Latin King tong.
Speaker 1: I think they were putting bird foot pokey on her.
Speaker 1: Uh and one other person, uh Fred Hampton Jr. So
Speaker 1: they were doing the speaking to a for for the
Speaker 1: for for Uh Man, what's this ship called man that
Speaker 1: the Conflict Resolutions ship their homie? So uh they wanted
Speaker 1: to pull me in because I got all the tracks
Speaker 1: with the youth and the youth shit nationally this nationally,
Speaker 1: So they pulled me in on a national level because
Speaker 1: I'm in d C.
Speaker 2: So that's how me and melln met.
Speaker 1: So when when I had a little issue with the police,
Speaker 1: when they take me to the to the crazy half,
Speaker 1: uh and put that tag on me, uh Man, my
Speaker 1: mom and everybody at home, I know that for for
Speaker 1: me to be what I was at the time, it
Speaker 1: is radical. Uh As I wore for my voice toward
Speaker 1: white people. Uh Man, leave a little bit because interaction
Speaker 1: with the police homies on alert.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying every time because they put
Speaker 2: this on me, they look at you a certain way.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm a threat to them. And I got
Speaker 1: a lot and I post all these in my rhetoric.
Speaker 2: Homie.
Speaker 1: So at the time was white folk, did.
Speaker 2: You got a following on top of that? Dangerous?
Speaker 3: Might impress a button? And it started activating around this
Speaker 3: yeah so.
Speaker 2: So home and so so.
Speaker 1: But because I had worked with government officials home me
Speaker 1: uh ted crew John Cornyn, A Rubio, uh Man, a
Speaker 1: Senator Harold Darton, And I'm going But because I had
Speaker 1: worked with with with these people, they said, Man, something
Speaker 1: happened to Charles. He something went crazy because because I'm
Speaker 1: because of the plus, I'm with the old, I'm with
Speaker 1: the old pops. Pops name got a history with white folks.
Speaker 1: They got a real organization called Texas and it's a
Speaker 1: group of similitary men.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And they don't fight number of police. One of them
Speaker 1: them killed captain in them a wardening, so they don't.
Speaker 1: So when you hear me say certain names old que's
Speaker 1: e Roy Brown, home of those names, skirt white people
Speaker 1: and and and those men mentored me.
Speaker 3: So uh that's who you got a lot of your
Speaker 3: game from too. He followed me on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Yeah so so so so so when so when they
Speaker 1: took me in Homi day, Uh, they want to dissect
Speaker 1: the Uh they study out stood out on social media posts.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: So they kept for like some day. What was this
Speaker 1: in l A, Texas, Texas. That's who made me move
Speaker 1: to lat there.
Speaker 2: I got out of Texas.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so so I me and my homeboy Potter
Speaker 1: had just killed a high ranking police officer. So it
Speaker 1: was a lot of tension between me, me and my
Speaker 1: local police department. So you see me, keep going to jail,
Speaker 1: keep getting the charges. That's my local police department getting
Speaker 1: their link back. I infiltrated our police department home.
Speaker 2: Uh I met, I met with her. I met with her.
Speaker 1: Uh men calling, I met, I met with I met
Speaker 1: with our city council member. So y I'm I'm in
Speaker 1: the community, working with kids with a with a sincere
Speaker 1: heart and the desire to work with youth who were
Speaker 1: once like me, trouble kid, juvenile, tricked by the court
Speaker 1: or bought into the bullshit, come from a good home,
Speaker 1: raised right, but just doing wrong based trying to help
Speaker 1: save you know that. I believe it's my God given purpose.
Speaker 1: Uh step out. You can't step in the studio in
Speaker 1: college knowing my phone up over Oh yeah. So so
Speaker 1: I'm really sincerely trying to help in the community. And
Speaker 1: I got the game from Jewish people who're saying, you
Speaker 1: want to be a self sustained organization, Charleston. You don't
Speaker 1: want grant money, you don't want funders.
Speaker 2: You want to be self sustained. You got that from
Speaker 2: the Jewish. From the Jews.
Speaker 1: You want to be self sustained. You don't be a beggar.
Speaker 1: The nonprofit is good but you want your people, who
Speaker 1: the people you seem to help, your constituents, your community.
Speaker 1: Why would anybody give you anything? And that's why Black
Speaker 1: people can't get nothing because their constituents don't give to them.
Speaker 1: So when they gave me that game, I came back
Speaker 1: to the community. The old niggas say that you got
Speaker 1: to have something to sell. So that's why you see
Speaker 1: me selling barbecue. I'm selling T shirts. So I'm really
Speaker 1: trying to be self sustainable. Uh So I met with
Speaker 1: Gena Bivins, who was our city council of District five.
Speaker 1: She said, Charleston, all the help that you need is
Speaker 1: with the police department, and that's in every black community.
Speaker 1: All the funding that you your little leave football, is
Speaker 1: your after school programs, your nonprofits, your boys and girls club,
Speaker 1: your your your your mentoring program, all of that funding
Speaker 1: come from the police department.
Speaker 2: Y'all down, Why got the pal league? And there you go.
Speaker 1: Because it don't come from the police department. It comes
Speaker 1: by the way of public safety funding. Well, why is
Speaker 1: our funding coming from public safety? High crime areas?
Speaker 2: Games? Yes, so we have to have the funding.
Speaker 1: So so we're gonna give your police department seven hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars for one year. Now there's seven hundred million.
Speaker 1: Four hundred million is THEIRS, three hundred million is the community's.
Speaker 1: But if you don't with the police, you don't get
Speaker 1: to go get your money, Samet They money, this is
Speaker 1: your money for your key way swimming is coming through
Speaker 1: public safety. Public safety that goes for parks and recreation.
Speaker 1: That's why you can't use the park. That's so that's
Speaker 1: parks and recreation.
Speaker 2: That's your swimming pool.
Speaker 1: So if you need all that, that's over there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got something that's allocated for infrastructure. But what y'all
Speaker 1: need is over there gang intervention. Gang prevention, so it's
Speaker 1: not just to lock up those are your intervention. We
Speaker 1: got plenty of money to prevent this. But if y'all
Speaker 1: don't it up man with the police, then guess who
Speaker 1: get the money?
Speaker 2: Your preachers. Because your preachers with the police.
Speaker 1: That's why every time it's a police shooting something happen,
Speaker 1: they go get the PREMI go get reverend reverend getting
Speaker 1: the money. You know, why could they told reverend how
Speaker 1: to get the five oh one c three So reverend
Speaker 1: don't just.
Speaker 2: Want God's money no more.
Speaker 1: He won't tax exemption from your money and you give him.
Speaker 2: So they done told reverend.
Speaker 1: How to get the five oh one C three. Now
Speaker 1: reverend got the five oh one c three. Reverends supposed
Speaker 1: to have an after school program. He's supposed to have
Speaker 1: a day club, but he using the money another way.
Speaker 1: So they give him the funded because you won't with
Speaker 1: the police. So when I got that game, I said, well,
Speaker 1: she I ain't a criminal, let me go with the police.
Speaker 3: That's a mean thing from my community though, right, just
Speaker 3: being black, I think you broke that though you kind
Speaker 3: of you kind of broke the mold with an interaction
Speaker 3: with the police, even for the benefits.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't even like you're saying. You wouldn't even go
Speaker 2: over there to feed the children. Men get with men.
Speaker 1: Men a promoter home, and a promoter can have stop
Speaker 1: the violence concerts and get free money from the county.
Speaker 1: Pay this pay that you're talking about fifty sixty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars that they'll give you to put a stop the
Speaker 1: Violet event on. Go get you like as a round.
Speaker 1: But if you don't put these people, then they gonna
Speaker 1: go buy a new tank. They gonna go by the drones.
Speaker 2: You can't see in the sky and good all around
Speaker 2: the city spine. There you go.
Speaker 1: They go about some toys.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah sure, and you don't know they got
Speaker 2: the money neither. Shit. We for to find a way
Speaker 2: the fund it somewhere else. Yeah yeah, yeah, get.
Speaker 1: So she But if you ain't got that game, homie.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, we all can't be anti police when
Speaker 1: we know we need the police. When I got that game,
Speaker 1: it wasn't that I was forced to. I'm saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: when you realize how the five oh one C three
Speaker 1: and the non profit work, or just for most of
Speaker 1: the money, you ain't got to stand on the corner
Speaker 1: with the kids with the little league football team and
Speaker 1: got the cheerleading girls out there with their skirts on,
Speaker 1: she looking like little You got the little boys nappy
Speaker 1: headed with the past half off and on. Or you
Speaker 1: ain't gotta do that, hommy. When you understand, you can
Speaker 1: go over her and take their money and create some
Speaker 1: type of booster fund for the kids. That Chick fil
Speaker 1: Ay at McDonald that all them taco bells, all them
Speaker 1: places full fast food places you got in your community.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to go over there and partner with them. Hey,
Speaker 1: these sales the night. We're gonna bring all these people
Speaker 1: over here. They're supposed to get money back, but you
Speaker 1: don't with these people, so you don't know. So you
Speaker 1: steaded trying to shame black people to giving you so
Speaker 1: ho when when When when Geena Bivens said that, Homie,
Speaker 1: I went and develop, you know, relationship with the police department.
Speaker 1: And by doing that over the years, Uh, when I
Speaker 1: see that there's a police officer that's doing something, uh,
Speaker 1: and people call me and say something, I got some
Speaker 1: power to call down there and had an officer move
Speaker 1: to another side of town. When they got all the
Speaker 1: rookies over here at nighttime, say look out a deputy
Speaker 1: dean man. While y'all got all the rookies over here,
Speaker 1: you know it, come with the rookie mistakes. We need
Speaker 1: some veteran laws on this side of town. They don't
Speaker 1: put all the rookies over here. Many of you know
Speaker 1: they got you know what I'm saying, we a So
Speaker 1: you're building that kind of relationship as a community leader, Homie.
Speaker 1: It wasn't when I started trying to go to Caradical
Speaker 1: that they started saying, man, hey, we don't know about truck,
Speaker 1: but I'm repeating the rhetoric of the old. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, And I'm starting to be more
Speaker 1: for us now, I'm talking uh footboo talk for us,
Speaker 1: by us, with us, of us or against us. Now
Speaker 1: I'm starting to grow my dreds Now. I ain't clean
Speaker 1: cutting no more so now the white people really put
Speaker 1: it back there, because I'm really starting.
Speaker 2: To go like my people roll.
Speaker 1: I, I was being a side. I was gonna be
Speaker 1: a sellout. They were grooming me to be a real
Speaker 1: and I was. I was jumping in the chair to
Speaker 1: be groomed or out of disdain. And I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: uh toward the culture. Not that I've been a victim
Speaker 1: of the culture. Uh. I was victimized spot of culture
Speaker 1: because I was tricked and it was propagated to me
Speaker 1: as a kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think we've all went through that. Man.
Speaker 3: Like even with me, I got around certain people and
Speaker 3: been like, I just know he a hustle cause he
Speaker 3: been talking hustle ship.
Speaker 2: Can you give me fifty.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: People any way, you they make nothing happen to them talking.
Speaker 2: And so I'm saying in the game, ain't even in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: That's what I been saying. Now, even the nun street
Speaker 1: people pushing the no snitch and ship, everybody talking like
Speaker 1: they street costler. So they tricked me.
Speaker 2: Here I am. I got my own room in the
Speaker 2: third grade with a phone line in it.
Speaker 1: I got breakfast on the stove and almost everything. So
Speaker 1: I come from a well to do background, but I
Speaker 1: want to play poor.
Speaker 2: That's shit crazy.
Speaker 1: I want to act like I'm from the hood or
Speaker 1: then you know how how inferior and insecure I used
Speaker 1: to feel when you find out from the suburbs, I
Speaker 1: might hit you across your head with something just to
Speaker 1: hide the fact get out from the suburbs. I might
Speaker 1: hit you up because that was a that was an
Speaker 1: inferiority complex.
Speaker 2: That's crazy mean for a good part of the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what the house is better the school and
Speaker 1: better to be from not that was a thing.
Speaker 2: That we took. It said, ain't nowhere in the world.
Speaker 2: I'm letting no know that.
Speaker 1: Where you think the whole movie A TL with now
Speaker 1: hot she from this. That's our culture. Everybody that got
Speaker 1: it out the mud, everybody from man with some silver
Speaker 1: spoon babies like especially them eighties baby with them them
Speaker 1: blue collar middle class working parents them meals and steels
Speaker 1: and general more men them blue collar men. Blue collar
Speaker 1: was the backbone of a miracle. And that's what most
Speaker 1: of our mama and daddy in the wood. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: even if they got off on drugs, they maintained them
Speaker 1: blue collar jobs.
Speaker 2: They ain't losing job. They smoking dope and everything, ain't
Speaker 2: that job un like man. So I'm saying now, we
Speaker 2: all didn't come.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't until I got Damn, I'm in my
Speaker 1: thirties where I can finally say I wasn't raised.
Speaker 2: I ain't.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to call the police on the Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know how hard it was to say that. I know,
Speaker 2: but then you just accepted it. I don't know what, man,
Speaker 2: change the culture.
Speaker 1: Man set me up to get robbed for twenty two
Speaker 1: pounds a week today Michael Jackson died. We sitting there
Speaker 1: watching men breaking new Michael Power hit me up and
Speaker 1: this is this is my hometown and need my pottingers.
Speaker 1: But this is out of jealousy and envy. So, uh,
Speaker 1: the street's talking and you know I'm a live while
Speaker 1: in my city. Oh no, street's talking. But uh, I
Speaker 1: can't leave my babies. But I want my lick back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ship At first I tried. First, I told my uncle.
Speaker 1: I said, say Wayne, say man, you know they rob me,
Speaker 1: Say call the police and called the Crime Stop a
Speaker 1: line and drop a dime on the old school player,
Speaker 1: your nephew, you got to put your own work here
Speaker 1: in the future. So she and Nigga I told him.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna get my do it. Oh, didn't
Speaker 1: know what to say. Confidentally, I did it. Did I'm
Speaker 1: secretly call crime Stopping told everything I can know.
Speaker 2: What happened though, what you mean they yeah, yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: The people got crazy. Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1: They went and got him and it felt good.
Speaker 2: What happened to her? Going to put his mad song
Speaker 2: though c.
Speaker 1: W mad sometime A line losed him back teeth in
Speaker 1: the back. He gotta let the hyena do the kill,
Speaker 1: and then he come take it from the hyena. Try
Speaker 1: to skirm roll, but he can't bite no more teeth
Speaker 1: Brider in the back. My teeth had got brother in
Speaker 1: the back.
Speaker 2: I ain't couldn't bite pounds a lot man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and but I with my essay Pottner them, Uh,
Speaker 1: but Pottner, he my partner. But his uncles and I'm saying,
Speaker 1: no way could they think I'm in on it because
Speaker 1: every time I'm coming after, I ain't got no pistol
Speaker 1: on it. So they seeing how I'm too fly, too
Speaker 1: fly guy. Yeah, too smooth with it. So the uncles saying,
Speaker 1: now he is, yeah and the in on it? Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah so because in they world they killed for
Speaker 1: that that yeah, but not my my cousin you know
Speaker 1: we we h Yeah, my cousin may rest in peace.
Speaker 1: Gave a tightle up to his corvid uh and yeah,
Speaker 1: worked it off.
Speaker 2: Because they're gonna make it work it off.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You don't get away with that. Oh h.
Speaker 1: I had, I had, I had little I had. I say,
Speaker 1: ain't never really been no real in the in the
Speaker 1: knee deep street kind of.
Speaker 2: You spent your child, you spent those years in jail.
Speaker 1: Yeah so so so I got out of twenty one,
Speaker 1: so from twenty one to thirty really just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: who everybody with so I can go to Dallas and
Speaker 1: get whatever. So when it's a driving for work, because
Speaker 1: I grew up in the boys home, I knew everybody.
Speaker 1: I know all the Houston all. It ain't no city
Speaker 1: because I grew up in the boys home. Oh so
Speaker 1: everybody knows me, so I was I'm the favorite middle man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I ain't have to see a though. I know
Speaker 1: the guy guy putting my tax straight every jail.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I already know I'm gonna come back and get the money.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I'm gonna make sure everything. I'm everybody's
Speaker 1: favorite middle man. So uh so when this goes bad,
Speaker 1: this ain't just don't seem right to nobody. Everybody know
Speaker 1: man who do good business. So uh it was a
Speaker 1: black eye for them. So, uh make sure these recording
Speaker 1: to essay. Uh uh say them let me work it out.
Speaker 1: So at the time, my daughter was just born. I
Speaker 1: had just I had just started my first semester at
Speaker 1: community college. Uh.
Speaker 2: My dad had just died and so he had.
Speaker 1: Left me a little money. My baby mama was on
Speaker 1: the run.
Speaker 2: She was dancing.
Speaker 1: My baby mama was on the run at the time.
Speaker 1: She was dancing for a probation shoot on the run
Speaker 1: for a probation violation. My daughter was six months old.
Speaker 1: My baby mama just got arrested. So I got the baby.
Speaker 2: Uh, I run into my partners, say, I just got.
Speaker 1: Just come across s A and M they got one
Speaker 1: hundred pounds, so say them bless my game.
Speaker 2: But this ain't me.
Speaker 1: I'm just financially trying to just do a little something.
Speaker 2: Right inside of necessity. We all been through that.
Speaker 1: Look but but but it's working so well, that gravitational pool.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't want, but it's
Speaker 1: pulling it.
Speaker 2: In that way.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, God, man, listen, don't you do now.
Speaker 2: I remember saying this one name. Okay, God, don't you
Speaker 2: do nothing to God, damn me, stop this, let me
Speaker 2: stop it.
Speaker 1: That's what happened because God knew I wouldn't go stop it,
Speaker 1: because because the devil is now starting to fulfill your
Speaker 1: desires of the streets that you ever had, right, I.
Speaker 3: Went through that to pull you back one time. I
Speaker 3: was so my game was kind of opposite to yours.
Speaker 2: I was a wol.
Speaker 3: I was out there for my My biggest thing I've
Speaker 3: done around here was I played middle man when I
Speaker 3: really had it, and they kept me out of these
Speaker 3: conversations when they get pulled over when they going to
Speaker 3: tell they never thought to say my name. But if
Speaker 3: they just took some time those they thought about it,
Speaker 3: They never not got it like I always used to telling, Yeah,
Speaker 3: let me let me check on that for you, right quick,
Speaker 3: let me call my homie man, you know, saying man,
Speaker 3: I got this here.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Then I wait a few seconds and calling it back. Yeah,
Speaker 3: now it's good man, what you're trying to do with
Speaker 3: the woof? But I played that game. But I also
Speaker 3: was on the other side of it, and I had
Speaker 3: a situation where my friends again he pos be my buddies,
Speaker 3: de pop be my friends. So we you know, I
Speaker 3: got a situation coming from Arizona back when that Arizona
Speaker 3: shit will fly pulling up popcorn.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my friends is called a come budd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, shit will fire back. Then today's drove came with it.
Speaker 3: That shit was so good, bro, I'm talking about man.
Speaker 3: So my homeboys, I'm getting them straight every time my
Speaker 3: plug coming through. So I come outside one day and
Speaker 3: I noticed that one of my homeboys sitting outside. It
Speaker 3: didn't make sense to me to it. I all fell
Speaker 3: apart and I said, oh, that what he was doing.
Speaker 3: So anyway, he's sitting outside, I go get home and straight.
Speaker 3: Now he ain't on my friend's side. He on the
Speaker 3: plug side.
Speaker 2: This sitting on the porch is part of the plug crew.
Speaker 2: My crew pull up to get the ship.
Speaker 3: Whatever I ask him, you know, so I go get
Speaker 3: him straight, come to find out while he outside and
Speaker 3: I mean that getting it straight. He push up on
Speaker 3: one of my boards. Hey man, you know Loan putting
Speaker 3: a little something on it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If y'all nigga want to.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, cut cut bruh out the
Speaker 2: deal you dig it's you know what I mean? Da
Speaker 2: da da.
Speaker 3: He bite with the driver. He tried to go meet
Speaker 3: the very next week. They told his mouth out. But
Speaker 3: I told my friend, that's y'all fault for trying to
Speaker 3: cut me out. Y'all don't want Loan to make nothing.
Speaker 1: This my this shit the player right this my I'm
Speaker 1: he's my right, He's my nigg When he goes sco.
Speaker 1: He don't know about him in Dallas H. No matter
Speaker 1: which Dallas H he getting. He getting twenty five or
Speaker 1: thirty pounds each time. It's every two days twenty five
Speaker 1: or in the brick and he taking he he taking
Speaker 1: the pain back to for work. At the time thirteen
Speaker 1: twelve hundred pounds ten seventy five If y'all play up podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm getting them number two. Yeah, I'm getting them for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a hundred dolls of eating.
Speaker 2: Uh do me like that.
Speaker 1: But but it's the Messicans, you know, when the Feds.
Speaker 2: So I got it.
Speaker 1: So the Messicans, Domesican brother, do me like that. But
Speaker 1: my taking over truck papers so that we're getting a
Speaker 1: dope from in Dallas. I get a truck for him
Speaker 1: in my name. The Feds get him, so I get
Speaker 1: the truck back. I let money take over the payments.
Speaker 1: So he's sending me the money to make the payment.
Speaker 1: As long as he's sending me the money, the payments
Speaker 1: getting good. So I tell him, say no, big boy,
Speaker 1: I trust you, and your girl just started making the payment.
Speaker 1: Now he getting the money to his girl with the
Speaker 1: white boy Richard, and all this document in the newspaper.
Speaker 1: How Richard all this Suzuki, Uh, the white boy, they
Speaker 1: money lunder, all this for all the big time dope
Speaker 1: dealers and so everybody.
Speaker 2: So but the fast fit to get them. But we
Speaker 2: don't know this.
Speaker 1: So oh, he gave the money to his parking, the money,
Speaker 1: writing the check, playing the check game. So every time
Speaker 1: he missed a payment, they come and to report because
Speaker 1: they know the lifestyle. They come report the truck. One
Speaker 1: night he got like thirty some thousand in that bit
Speaker 1: the miss she don't miss November payment, checked them bounce,
Speaker 1: but then come back in January. Then she laid on
Speaker 1: January said they hurry up and go get the truck
Speaker 1: to get the extra money to feed that.
Speaker 2: They did play that game.
Speaker 1: There they go and hit for thirty thousands. He thinking,
Speaker 1: he's thinking listening to the I don't come back and
Speaker 1: get the money. So that's what he stayed to play
Speaker 1: to get me robbed? God, yeah, yeah, we could have
Speaker 1: been a millionaires.
Speaker 2: See the game is always like that. That's what's up.
Speaker 2: It's like and not.
Speaker 1: We made up after that, but yeah, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: I start I started seeing my put zen x in
Speaker 1: you know, I started watching my go from shipping syrd
Speaker 1: uh to putting zan X and Jolly Ranchers in the bottle,
Speaker 1: shaking it up, trying.
Speaker 2: To going down the dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, I tell them, like all my homies
Speaker 3: like that's why you know, you can't trust him with
Speaker 3: this level of ship you be around when they on
Speaker 3: them drugs and ship, you just can't trust it.
Speaker 2: Bro like because it costs too much, so.
Speaker 1: You're not home. And so you know, I was known
Speaker 1: as a as a as a as a smooth player
Speaker 1: a little you know. You know, I always been the
Speaker 1: ladies man in the streets home and so so if
Speaker 1: the streets up that that that happened between me, me
Speaker 1: and Big Boy because he was a smooth but then
Speaker 1: his reputation start going down here that be a character
Speaker 1: at some point, homie. You yeah, yeah, that that that
Speaker 1: that was a character. So ultimately that that that end
Speaker 1: up costing him. So uh when I suck, when I
Speaker 1: sent the police stayway, uh yeah yeah, get him overhead,
Speaker 1: I sent him yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. They end up
Speaker 1: you shooting, shooting through the door and shooting the police officer.
Speaker 2: Damn they is that because they came with the open up.
Speaker 1: Not with so they beat it though, so so so.
Speaker 1: But but I told on end up snitching on one
Speaker 1: of his young who actually shot. He ended up snitching
Speaker 1: on in need some player, you homie. Uh. The still
Speaker 1: love me to the day because they saw how Money
Speaker 1: crossed me. So they would always watch him because if
Speaker 1: he if he'll cross blue.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but he was the kind of like they
Speaker 2: Big homie.
Speaker 1: But they some live looking and they was them young
Speaker 1: with his muscle at that time, they gonna shoot it
Speaker 1: out with the police behind it. They shout it out
Speaker 1: with the police crazy so uh so, yeah, they love me.
Speaker 1: They beat that yeah, because the police came with the Yeah.
Speaker 2: But damn you think they'll try to steal.
Speaker 1: Where they got some conviction end up going they did
Speaker 1: some time behind it or they just they just beat
Speaker 1: the tempted the capital word on the police because they
Speaker 1: had been the big boy had been robbing, you know
Speaker 1: after that homie. So it was some more if they asked.
Speaker 1: Uh So, they had been sending text message in threats,
Speaker 1: so that's what kind of saved them. Some more sent
Speaker 1: some threats. So they don't know if it's the police
Speaker 1: because the police didn't say nothing. But the police lied
Speaker 1: and said it. They said they said something, but the
Speaker 1: nigga beat that case. I think they like a ten
Speaker 1: year uh ship. Big boy got out got back home
Speaker 1: and so now when he get out, Uh, I hurry
Speaker 1: out and I'm on this nad because I'm big on
Speaker 1: social media now I was starting to become big. I'm
Speaker 1: big on Facebook. Yeah, my nig did call me like
Speaker 1: man listen.
Speaker 2: Woo woo woo, woo woo woo. We talked about it.
Speaker 1: Uh small misunderstanding them, a lot of a lot of them,
Speaker 1: street friendships, home mind you up in your mind?
Speaker 2: You know me?
Speaker 1: You know you don't, I don't. You done gave me
Speaker 1: the money. I done went to go get it. You
Speaker 1: don't know my mama, Lee, you don't know. I could
Speaker 1: leave my apartment. I could have been ran out with
Speaker 1: the money. Why was that kind of nigga? Come on,
Speaker 1: you listening to the debate planned? Yeah, I could have
Speaker 1: been done this. Come on, you know sent me and waited.
Speaker 1: I done went to the other city to get it
Speaker 1: and come back.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, niggas, don't be thinking man cloud there you go,
Speaker 1: but reflect who they are and other people.
Speaker 2: Right, that's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Think everybody lies, thieves, think everybody stealing.
Speaker 3: I hate that when he takes you and they go
Speaker 3: to panicking because answer quick enough for something.
Speaker 2: Damn you don't what?
Speaker 1: Damn? What in it?
Speaker 2: Are you on? Some mons? That's what's in your head?
Speaker 2: You see with me, that's why you think you Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta watch for that.
Speaker 1: I listened for it. Yeah, I listened for what's in
Speaker 1: a man's heart, go come out of mouth, especially if
Speaker 1: he like the talk. Yeah, it's the quiet, don't say much.
Speaker 1: You got to kind of punder but not homosade. So
Speaker 1: that was that was my life changing experience in my
Speaker 1: early thirties, my daughter was just born that I had
Speaker 1: never been betrayed by a friend before, never been betrayed
Speaker 1: by a friend. We don't see each other girls, but
Speaker 1: when you're young, that's not betrayal. But yeah, now I
Speaker 1: had never been betrayed. So that was my life. Listen,
Speaker 1: when you hear me say, I don't don't so and
Speaker 1: so so by that time, Uh, when I went and
Speaker 1: got in college. A few years later, all of my
Speaker 1: real childhood friends start coming home from prison from shit
Speaker 1: they did when they were kids.
Speaker 2: Because your friends, you really made friends in prison.
Speaker 1: And boys, I was waiting on most of them I
Speaker 1: went to school with. We we didn't main it was
Speaker 1: like two or three. We maintain friendships, but you're not
Speaker 1: the same. You can't maintain the same.
Speaker 2: Level of friendship.
Speaker 1: Uh, from the sixth and seventh grade and you come
Speaker 1: back at twenty two, twenty three because now these egos
Speaker 1: from selling dope and you know what, I'm saying, Uh.
Speaker 2: They might have been winning in school.
Speaker 1: Now they big dogs, can't nobody tell them nothing, so
Speaker 1: they're super tough or you know what I'm saying. Or
Speaker 1: they might have been super tough. Now they're on dope.
Speaker 1: So the dynamics had changed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I was kind of like.
Speaker 1: In the wilderingnes Is just alone. Oh but uh, because
Speaker 1: I know everybody, I can go from Fort Wood to
Speaker 1: Grand Prairie, Downward, Old Cliff, West, Dallas, Pleasant Grove, Houston,
Speaker 1: San Antonio. So I can go to all these different
Speaker 1: places because I spent his whole teenage life in the
Speaker 1: Boys Home, and I was in an institution that only
Speaker 1: housed texas most violent youthful offenders.
Speaker 2: So that's from ninety one.
Speaker 1: So I met all the big dollars in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: kids because you know, the statistics say that it's in
Speaker 1: there at that age them gonna beat them kind of
Speaker 1: for the rest of they So all I was in
Speaker 1: the boys Home with them when they got eighteen and nineteen.
Speaker 1: By the time they were twenty one twenty five, they
Speaker 1: ran certain prisons. The exactly could they come through just
Speaker 1: like the movie American means, and all the movies, all
Speaker 1: of them starting their boys home. So so most real
Speaker 1: bad homey got juvenile records, A bad juvenile, bad nigga
Speaker 1: we missed. They was in boards home, a different youth
Speaker 1: of centers. So all us met up in juvenile attention center.
Speaker 1: So all the started the games, all of them in
Speaker 1: the boy's home with it. So I got you know,
Speaker 1: uh uh uh. It was like joining the fraternity for
Speaker 1: me because it wasn't no, it wasn't no. It wasn't
Speaker 1: no deadly violence. In the boys home. We fight like
Speaker 1: a nigga, squabbled like a but it wasn't no deadly violence.
Speaker 1: Might get hit across the head or something, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't no deadly violence. So it was growing up just fighting.
Speaker 2: If you was free, do you think you would have
Speaker 2: joined there? I would have been killed in your spirit.
Speaker 1: So so imagine imagine my internet persona as a gang member.
Speaker 2: It's the same. It would have been the same. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would have been just as disrespectful. H yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's my that's my temperament or anything I embraced.
Speaker 2: That's me playing basketball.
Speaker 1: Yet you can't hold me. So that's playing dominoes. You
Speaker 1: you go to that persona comes out. So now that's
Speaker 1: the persona I had in the home. So that's how
Speaker 1: I got the name Nook. That same in and theet
Speaker 1: persona was in that little with the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But and I'm acting, so I'm going overboard. But it's convincing.
Speaker 1: It's conventioning, you know what I'm saying. See, because you
Speaker 1: got this thing like you've you've You've got this pattern
Speaker 1: where you said, yo, I infiltrated the police.
Speaker 2: I went out there and infiltrated the roll in the sixties.
Speaker 1: So you got a certain level of game where you
Speaker 1: can make it look like what whatever you really want
Speaker 1: to make it so so so so so when I
Speaker 1: joined the gang in ninety two, Uh, gang Bang had
Speaker 1: already been big in America from the mid eighties by
Speaker 1: way of the crack epidemic. So if you watch that movie,
Speaker 1: what's that movie that about? Crack with the California on Netflix, Snowfall.
Speaker 1: So if you watched Snowfall, you saw Jerome them too Crack. Yes,
Speaker 1: the mother names stayed in California. Jerome them took Crack
Speaker 1: Crack and the Gang Bang came together.
Speaker 2: It was because it was coming out of La there
Speaker 2: you go so so so.
Speaker 1: That's why you had the documentary Banging in Little Rock.
Speaker 1: That's why them was so detrical. That's why they ganged.
Speaker 1: That's why they they first years of gang banging was
Speaker 1: so horrific and horrendous because they got to California in
Speaker 1: the country them took the gang and took it to extreme.
Speaker 1: You saw it in the movie. He said, Man, the
Speaker 1: country nigga wild another nugat. They giving you certain history
Speaker 1: and this shit. Oh so by time it get the
Speaker 1: Texas in Louisiana, Uh, I'm I'm what maybe eleven twelve.
Speaker 1: By the time I'm fourteen, uh Uh, it's here, but
Speaker 1: I'm from the suburbs.
Speaker 2: I don't see it.
Speaker 1: It ain't in my school, it ain't in on television.
Speaker 1: And when I go to Miamiam House in the guttles
Speaker 1: and the slum, I see them bandana. So it's only
Speaker 1: a pilling, becau because I've seen it on colors. It's
Speaker 1: just like the ship we see on Love and Hip Hop.
Speaker 1: You know it's there you go. So that flag became
Speaker 1: that was like it was a pilling like the cyber truck.
Speaker 1: So uh, the the firsd iPhones, that bandana yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So uh when I so, I'm one of the very
Speaker 1: few kids in my school that was going to juvenile,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to Julie for mischievous, delinquent ships, stealing,
Speaker 1: cause vandalizing. So I'm getting to get a peak of
Speaker 1: it the little couple of days I'm staying in Julie,
Speaker 1: come home, go to school, mimic a stance and walk.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Uh when I got the Juvenile Uh, and I got.
Speaker 1: I got to see it full, up close and personal
Speaker 1: sh everything I was looking for. It's like said Mama,
Speaker 1: I won't play football, the camaraderie all and it got
Speaker 1: the Blue Dickens home with the raw everything because it
Speaker 1: was already a Pillon by way of television with the
Speaker 1: young impressionable mind. So at this time Larry Hoover's literature
Speaker 1: growth in development is being started to be spread throughout
Speaker 1: the prison system of juvenile system, so it's starting to
Speaker 1: come down South and everything. But the Cryption Bloods don't
Speaker 1: have no literature, but they're trying to adopt literature by
Speaker 1: way of acronyms crypt community and revolution in progress because
Speaker 1: rest in pea community revolution international people. So they starting
Speaker 1: to put acronym that's the brainwashing with the bullshit for
Speaker 1: the young to make it feel like it's honorable. So
Speaker 1: now they coming with acronyms of blood brothers leading others
Speaker 1: out of darkness.
Speaker 2: So they come with some acronym.
Speaker 1: But they getting all this mixed up with Larry who
Speaker 1: was teaching the crypt So now they it's even more
Speaker 1: pilloic because now we have literature. So now just checking
Speaker 1: each other on literature. That's GD and b D shit.
Speaker 2: Now the cripping blood.
Speaker 1: You know your literature. Well, when you were playing Domino Nick,
Speaker 1: I was writing who was in games in California and
Speaker 1: definitely used to let anybody write in prison, Yeah, writing
Speaker 1: and giving me the history and the knowledge. Then Monster
Speaker 1: Cody dropped that book that books what Monster Cody. So
Speaker 1: when I went and got the first history by all
Speaker 1: the names and the time frames, when I went in
Speaker 1: to bed, that made me the leader amongst each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you knew more than how you go anybody
Speaker 2: with the information.
Speaker 1: So I was with the knowledge and the literature, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't learn all the handshake, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Because they top dog round, they put it in books.
Speaker 2: They putting.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, he show I'm learning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just learning ship. But then we make it up
Speaker 1: as we go along.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's what superseded me, passed to be a little
Speaker 1: because I had the knowledge, and that's when I understood knowledge,
Speaker 1: the real power knowledge. Now for sure, what do you
Speaker 1: think about Larry who will be in partner by President Trump? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's been in the making for a minute. Uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been in the making for a minute. He just
Speaker 1: needed a strong ally. And uh, the the lady who
Speaker 1: who they call the there part and the partners are
Speaker 1: she was partnered once before by President Trump, and so uh,
Speaker 1: God has given her favor to have the King's ear.
Speaker 2: H and shout out to the queen. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Do you think he'll get to unravel the state? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he coming home. He don't got fit on the two
Speaker 2: hundred or something.
Speaker 1: Well, he up under the old parole system, so he
Speaker 1: already edited before parole.
Speaker 2: Real, that's good, that's definitely good.
Speaker 1: Now he up under the old parole system, not not
Speaker 1: the new one. So now he already before parole.
Speaker 2: Dope, I didn't know that, but but but to.
Speaker 1: Him in his mind, he's free now. If he never
Speaker 1: come home, he's free because he was in that max month.
Speaker 1: If he never come home free. Yeah, we don't know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be locked in the bathroom for
Speaker 1: forty four decades, for twenty three hours a day, every day.
Speaker 1: You can't talk to your neighbor because they can't. They
Speaker 1: gotta be silent. They they can't commute, so he can
Speaker 1: he what's up?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: He can't talk to nobody, and it's only certain guards
Speaker 1: he can talk to. They can only have a conversation
Speaker 1: because of the level of power. He's been deemed the
Speaker 1: halfs Only certain people can talk to him. Can you
Speaker 1: imagine that? And we talked about come home free.
Speaker 2: They say, read the mail off of green Man.
Speaker 1: He never seen the sun in four decades. He ain't
Speaker 1: been hugged, he ain't been touched, he ain't had no
Speaker 1: human contact.
Speaker 2: On the water. Yeah, we don't know what they feel like.
Speaker 1: So before we talking about he can shake a hand,
Speaker 1: he can talk to somebody, he can walk around a
Speaker 1: y'all with a gate in it and feel like he
Speaker 1: in the ocean. Yeah, before we talking about Yeah, yes, man, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Here's something I think about. It is like he's he's
Speaker 2: been like like you say.
Speaker 1: We can't forget jeff Ford either. They punishing jeff Ford
Speaker 1: homy because jeff Ford, you know man, uh yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's his guy. Well yeah, there was once enemies. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they they they once enemies. They once was rivals. But
Speaker 1: you know jeff Ford was with uh you know, uh
Speaker 1: Faara coom Mare Cadiphan man. Uh you know, so they
Speaker 1: got him as a terrorist. Uh but men, he's an
Speaker 1: old man. Yeah, some old soldiers home. How long he's
Speaker 1: been just as long as they got both of them
Speaker 1: eight x h L Choppo breaking over there because it's tortuous, homie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh them them, Uh you know, I'm sure they broke
Speaker 1: at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They strong, they're strong. Oh yeah, my heart weep for him.
Speaker 1: Uh see, I was a little boy. Uh so, I
Speaker 1: spent nine months in isolations as a kid in the
Speaker 1: g r U program. It was it was a behavior
Speaker 1: modification program. You know, I thang bang it right, so
Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, yeah, we we was in tour with
Speaker 1: the Disciples and the Hoover at the time, and it
Speaker 1: was his named random ware H.
Speaker 2: This was a minute. He was a Hoover. It was
Speaker 2: a minute.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he used to catch one of my Uh
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. If he catches he goes main me. Couldn't
Speaker 1: he fight? Yeah yeah, make god? So the Random World.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we jumped on Random World one time and
Speaker 1: uh they were laying on the ground and handcuffs and
Speaker 1: I was in handcuffs, and so somehow I got up
Speaker 1: and I ran over there and kicked that in the
Speaker 1: face while he was in handcuffs. So so they put
Speaker 1: me in a they put me at first. I think
Speaker 1: it was originally like a uh one hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: days or maybe like a ninety day uh lock up program.
Speaker 2: It was a behavior modification program.
Speaker 1: So I ain't up standing nine months, so it's initially
Speaker 1: twenty three hours lock lockdow. Uh, I'm gonna kick on
Speaker 1: the door, cut out the staff, flash my dick, and
Speaker 1: all the other kind of shit.
Speaker 2: So they ain't gonna let me out, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Uh, But psychologically I was doing that Homie took because
Speaker 1: I needed something to interact with. Nigga was too much
Speaker 1: on my little brain, Homie. Uh yeah, I had books
Speaker 1: to read. Uh it was it was too much and
Speaker 1: you couldn't talk, so I would Yeah, so I would
Speaker 1: beat and kick on the door, uh to make them
Speaker 1: come in and have to restrain.
Speaker 2: Somebody talk to me.
Speaker 1: I say, I'm just somebody if it comfort Yeah, so
Speaker 1: psychologically that's how I did that, but it would extend
Speaker 1: my time. Uh and once they figure out once so
Speaker 1: once I started having to talk to psychiatrists and psychologists, Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: they figured it out. This little bit is playing so home.
Speaker 1: I've been groomed, I've been healed from childhood trump I
Speaker 1: went through. I had psychiatrists and psychologists to talk to,
Speaker 1: had to drop over a dime, and kid therapy group sessions.
Speaker 1: So I'm really institutionalized. You got to think I fell
Speaker 1: in the washing machine when I was five years old.
Speaker 1: I had to learn how to rewalk again. By the
Speaker 1: time I was seven, I put my eye out and
Speaker 1: I had to have nine eye surgery from the time
Speaker 1: I was seven to twelve, so I really never got
Speaker 1: to go to school. By the time I'm fourteen, I'm
Speaker 1: locked up for murder. Till I'm twenty one, I've been
Speaker 1: in a hospital from lockup. So really, you know, I
Speaker 1: learned how to learn systems.
Speaker 2: But I'm wondering what your edge, because what a game.
Speaker 1: Because I had a private tutor. So I had a
Speaker 1: private so as far back as I can remember homeing,
Speaker 1: I never initially went to school. I had a private
Speaker 1: tutor who would come tutor me at home. I was
Speaker 1: personally developed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And that's way better than that school classroom.
Speaker 1: I had one on one.
Speaker 2: It's shipped my brain. H.
Speaker 1: I don't remember where I learned about John Brown. I
Speaker 1: know by John Brown. I don't teach that in school. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: had white Yeah, so all through it. So there's some
Speaker 1: point throughout my school years, every year I had a
Speaker 1: private tutor.
Speaker 3: That's where the game comes from. Then they teach you
Speaker 3: how to learn. I tell my kids though, it ain't
Speaker 3: about just knowing everything. It's about learning how to learn
Speaker 3: and retaining what you have. Retaining a bad and you
Speaker 3: retain Like I be hearing you quote books and quote ship.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that nick pulling from ship high too.
Speaker 2: That's what be getting me.
Speaker 1: I don't stop smoking, it's better, but you be high
Speaker 1: and talking ship. What's what's in the databank? H. That's
Speaker 1: why you can't have conversations on low frequencies because the
Speaker 1: low frequency don't have you go into the books. Don't
Speaker 1: have you going to the you have some conversation with
Speaker 1: some people. They have you put it into your fire cabinet,
Speaker 1: pulling it out that you didn't know yet, But it's
Speaker 1: in there because you once read it, you want to
Speaker 1: seen it. So I've been giving so many books from
Speaker 1: from from because I've always been good in English, composition, reading,
Speaker 1: and social study. That's my strength. Comprehension, That's why I
Speaker 1: can talk. I can articulate. Some part of your talking
Speaker 1: has come from what you're in read. That's why I
Speaker 1: can't argue with me. He in the books, I go
Speaker 1: find a word, you know, Yeah, I run so Uh.
Speaker 1: They've been shoving books in my face. Either been in
Speaker 1: the hospital or I've been in lock up right, been
Speaker 1: shoving books in my face. I don't really get to
Speaker 1: be free till I'm twenty one and get to explore
Speaker 1: this big old world.
Speaker 2: I wasn't a criminal. I've been institutionalized.
Speaker 1: What made you break the change? Now, before I get
Speaker 1: to that, what do you think about? What's the white
Speaker 1: boy named ten ninety J.
Speaker 2: I hate Behoover, I hate them.
Speaker 1: Uh. I can't say this. Uh.
Speaker 2: There should be a call of action to do something.
Speaker 2: Now he be with some ship.
Speaker 1: Well, why why he don't go Why he don't say
Speaker 1: nothing about the Mexican cartel? They tell the the plug
Speaker 1: tell on them. He said the dop to. Now there's
Speaker 1: plenty of paperwork on who've been told on by the
Speaker 1: Messican plug? Why he won't get that paperwork, cause nigga,
Speaker 1: he know them cartels and Mexican there's some consequences repercussion.
Speaker 1: It ain't no consequences in repercussion with the pigeon. The
Speaker 1: pigeon don't have anybody can with the pigeons. The pigeon
Speaker 1: can fly. And we don't seen video where the pigeon
Speaker 1: on the ground and the rat grab how so it
Speaker 1: ain't no with the pigeon. Oh but you mean to
Speaker 1: tell me I done said something that warns some people
Speaker 1: saying I get you. You ain't never heard one city
Speaker 1: they'll getting it's made videos and men, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: that swore, By god, it ain't it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: saying that about him. Homie. He gets he getting away
Speaker 1: scott free, and he interrupted some ship and out on that.
Speaker 1: He's not getting real court documented papers. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: get news paper clippers.
Speaker 2: You know, that's what I didn't like about the paper
Speaker 2: clippers are. I didn't like it. I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Then eighty years old to say old, you say only
Speaker 1: you're gonna kick like damn. And then and then the
Speaker 1: man who he said snitch don't come out and said, man,
Speaker 1: that man isn't snitch on me. And you're gonna come
Speaker 1: out of discredited, Homon, you're gonna do our elders coming.
Speaker 1: You mean to tell you, ain't nobody go get him.
Speaker 2: I don't like it, bro, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Somebody get him something something something young be willing to
Speaker 1: take this for the team, and we will love you
Speaker 1: to death. And I can't say it like that, but
Speaker 1: will love you. Yeah, yo, Mama and everybody be will
Speaker 1: taken care of you. Ain't got to kill him, God
Speaker 1: damn man ship elder though be locked up fifty years.
Speaker 2: We don't put the snitch label on it. They've done
Speaker 2: fifty and eighty X. Come on, homie, damn, come on, man,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do that home on home And I'm a
Speaker 2: bona fist street I'm being told on. I ain't got
Speaker 2: no smoke on my jacket. I'm looking at that like,
Speaker 2: come on, old man, like damn bro cut the and
Speaker 2: then you and then like you say when you look
Speaker 2: over man, it ain't on it.
Speaker 1: It put him, But he ain't doing it to nobody.
Speaker 1: But uh now I can see if he played faut
Speaker 1: with everybody. Yeah see, I'm I don't win against I
Speaker 1: don't know it ain't nobody. I ain't saying nothing bad
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, I'm fab with his mouth. He just
Speaker 1: got us and he paid for he just got us, homie,
Speaker 1: And and they don't put him now, they wrapping him
Speaker 1: bout him in song.
Speaker 2: Happening then't happening. That's what made me think the stupid
Speaker 2: they slow and down like the stupid man. Why is
Speaker 2: they like giving ten ninety jake any kind of props? Man?
Speaker 1: When listen, if they're stealing packages in this neighborhood, I'm
Speaker 1: looking out for the thief. I ain't thinking my house
Speaker 1: is too good for the package to come up missing.
Speaker 2: He can turn that on.
Speaker 3: Anybody, whether it's true or not, at any moment and
Speaker 3: discredited hole.
Speaker 1: He don't care if it's true or not. And then
Speaker 1: he don't retract.
Speaker 2: Rector done so so.
Speaker 1: Nahmah nah no no no, no, no no no, na
Speaker 1: I hate him. Uh but you know, or they let
Speaker 1: the white boy in. See I come from eral white
Speaker 1: boy get mistreated when we let him in.
Speaker 2: We don't play for with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah uh nigga. We break into his hol and feel
Speaker 1: sorry when we come over, but we the ones done it. Uh.
Speaker 1: When he come over and he played our Nintendo, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we got contra and we ain't never
Speaker 1: had comfort before. Yeah, but it's his and we let
Speaker 1: him play it, but he don't get to take it
Speaker 1: back home. He used to let us take his country home,
Speaker 1: and when he asked for it back, we break into
Speaker 1: his high.
Speaker 2: How we did our white boy?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, like we make our white boy
Speaker 1: grow up and say, yeah, see how y'all done. Jenni Row, Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all kick y'all mis treat Jedi Rod jeder Ro used
Speaker 1: to be out in Jenny Row used to be riding
Speaker 1: here with me, was yall