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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip, this is our life.

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Speaker 3: This is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Buggery Buggery, folks. Yes it is time for Morning Combat. Friday,

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Speaker 2: November sixth, twenty twenty. Yes, it's your boy, the BBC,

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Speaker 2: the Big beij One, Brian Campbell of CBS Sports coming

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Speaker 2: at you. And you see that that well dressed muscular man,

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Speaker 2: it was fresh from his front yard next to me.

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Speaker 2: He is my co host. He's an employee of CBS Sports.

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Speaker 2: And let me give him the same generous introduction that

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Speaker 2: he gave me this week on the Powerful JR epod.

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Speaker 3: This is my co host.

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Speaker 1: That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. You know what I have to say. BC,

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Speaker 1: You're right about that. I really after it was over,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to a regroup in my head,

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Speaker 1: like what did I say? What did I not say?

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I was like, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: I didn't plug my own YouTube page. I didn't plug.

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Speaker 1: I didn't plug my employers. I mentioned Morning Combat and

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Speaker 1: I made an allusion to you. I could have done

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Speaker 1: a better job at plugging things. So sorry, plugged.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you plugged Joe enough where he wants you back

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Speaker 1: But Louke, actually hold a roll thing because I didn't

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Speaker 1: to Jamie for doing that.

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Speaker 2: Shout outs to everybody. Luke, it's Friday, it's our fun show.

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Speaker 2: We preview the weekend. We got that nice orange font

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Speaker 2: right there. That's very a costing. And uh, Jay's back

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Speaker 1: His talking yet, Jay, no talking yet?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Jay, Wait, hold on real quick, Jay, Jay, did

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Speaker 2: you buy a microphone guard?

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Speaker 1: What are you?

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Speaker 2: What the hell you? What are you in the sound studio? Jay?

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Speaker 1: What? Hilter?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Brian us professional folks who do this sort of

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Speaker 2: but different pot filter. Wow, Jay, getting a head start

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Speaker 2: on that New Jersey legalization there. Congratulations there, Jay, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: All right, Can I tell you how excited go away? Jay?

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Speaker 1: Luke? Excited for the weekend, Excited for today's show. I

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Speaker 2: So let's rock Yeah, absolutely and shout out to your

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Speaker 2: we'll look back all that and then some tall, pale

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Speaker 2: out Saturday night. It's UFC Fight Night, Las Vegas from

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Speaker 2: the Apex Center, and we got a really good light

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Speaker 2: ESPN two and the Plus simulcast. But Luke, we talked

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Speaker 3: What do we do with this fight? Is it? Is

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Speaker 2: How are you gauging your interest level for this knowing

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Speaker 1: You know. I I means I'm looking at its two ways.

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Speaker 1: So I love that angle and then the other angle

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Speaker 2: From the standpoint of cashing in that lottery ticket, it

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Speaker 1: Jacko Santo's gonna put you back to you their BC.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, is just that, you know, with the redemption

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Speaker 1: Is he back where he was? Is he better than ever?

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Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna see. But I like the story

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly like the sneaky potential for action, the

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Speaker 2: you know, refurbished himself, and you know, look, they talked

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Speaker 3: Who's really pushing him.

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Speaker 2: And he's got all these young guys and he's leading

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Speaker 2: this team and he's found a way to get back

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Speaker 2: to the top and be aggressive and strong and young again.

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Speaker 2: And that's a fun story. But to me, it's all

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Speaker 2: about Thiago Santos, because it's not just can he come

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Speaker 2: back from those devastating injuries. Oh and oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: he just had COVID, which pushed this back a while.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, it's the fact that he comes into this

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Speaker 2: fresh off like the mountaintop moment of his career. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Luke, we don't know the legal side yet.

431
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Speaker 2: We haven't seen a response yet from Oscar de la

432
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 2: Hoya and Golden Boy on whether Canelo and Eddie Renoso

433
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 2: can claim this. But as it pertains, look, if this

434
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 2: is true in the boxing landscape, where we know there's politics,

435
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 2: there's segregation, the best don't always fight the best. Good God,

436
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 2: how big of a story is it for you? If

437
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 2: Kanel Alvarez can pick and choose who he wants to

438
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 2: fight where, on what network and all that starting right now.

439
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that is an amazing revelation. So I have

440
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,879
Speaker 1: two different responses. One I can't help but feel like

441
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 1: this is when Saint Pierre declared he was a free agent,

442
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: remember that, and then it was like no, you're not.

443
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 1: But he ended up getting I think it was the

444
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: Bisping fight in short order after that. So one real

445
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: play here is that this is Canelo doing something to

446
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 1: force De Zone's hand to give him something that he wants.

447
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 1: In other words, he would not be leaving de zone,

448
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,199
Speaker 1: but he would be cracking the whip on them in

449
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: some kind of way to force a resolution so that

450
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 1: whatever that is happening with the lawsuit or whatever, he

451
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 1: can just come to some kind of place where he's

452
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: advantaged and given whatever he is looking for. The specifics

453
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 1: of that obviously hard to tell. That's one read on this.

454
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: The other reader is that they're actually right and that

455
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: he has freed himself in the contract. I mean, let's

456
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: just call it what it is. BC. We know that

457
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 1: the guy who runs Showtime Sports, Steven Esponosa, on the record,

458
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,199
Speaker 1: has said, you know, to the extent that Canelo were

459
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Speaker 1: ever a free agent, I know Showtime would want him.

460
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of relationship Canelo has with

461
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: top Rank, but when you're Canelo, everyone wants to have

462
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 1: a good relationship with you, and I imagine Bob Aarum

463
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,719
Speaker 1: would want his services, and it would go on and

464
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: on and just from there, everyone who, anybody who knows

465
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: anything about boxing or is in the boxing business, if

466
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: Canelo were a free agent, would want to do business

467
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: with him, because, as you mentioned, he is the power

468
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 1: for pound, best he's arguably the biggest star even on

469
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 1: pay per view in this climate. With the right fight,

470
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: I think he could sell a shit ton. You've missed

471
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 1: your windows for the dates around Mexican Boxing Sigle Demayo

472
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: and then Mexican New Year. But still it wouldn't matter.

473
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: If you could come up with some kind of BC

474
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: let's call it December Surprise at would be astronomical.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is monster in every category for the short

476
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Speaker 2: term of boxing. Look, it's a big hit to have

477
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: your number one star not fight at all this calendar

478
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: year if they're just gonna parachute in and give us

479
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: a fight. And oh, by the way, Canelo has been

480
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: in the gym. We've seen the videos because his stablemate

481
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia is preparing for that big fight against Luke Campbell.

482
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 2: So we've seen Canelo hit the bag. He's ready now

483
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: look again. Full disclaimer, Golden Boy may be able to

484
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: speak on this. You know, there may be language that

485
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: says I'm sorry. You can announce that you're back, but

486
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: we got many a court date that can prevent that.

487
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: We'll see where that goes. But if we live in

488
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 2: a world where this is true, Luke, just the fact again,

489
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: he's the biggest star, so that matters. He's the number

490
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: one best fighter to a lot of people. That certainly matters.

491
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: His style in the ring is both fun and sort

492
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 2: of heavy craft, so that matters. But how about this Luke.

493
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: He has a title at one sixty middle eight, he's

494
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: the lineal champion. He holds a secondary title at one

495
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 2: sixty eight. He also want to beil that one to

496
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: seventy five last fall and gave it up right away

497
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 2: after knocking out Sergei Kovalev. So when your biggest star

498
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: in the sport has that flexibility to fight over a

499
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: number of weight classes and potentially take on some guys

500
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: at one forty seven or one fifty four who want

501
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 2: to move up, the flexibility to make massive fights is huge.

502
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: And again in this day and age, when fighters get

503
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 2: good pay, they get good treatment. But to do that,

504
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: they have to align themselves, typically with a network and

505
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: a promoter and live in that silo. Right, unless you

506
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: get to such a high level where you can get

507
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: different people to play along, like we saw with Wilder

508
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: and Fury there with a two network pay per view deal.

509
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: If Canelo can kind of go the route that Miguel

510
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: Coto did to end his great career. I don't know

511
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: if you remember this, Luke. He didn't have a promoter.

512
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: He was one fight deal with everyone. After signing that

513
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 2: massive deal with rock Nation and jay Z and then

514
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: kind of just picking which network he wanted to fight with,

515
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: he started to just really call his own shots. If

516
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: you're telling me the future for Canelo could be, how

517
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 2: about we do a glove can trilogy. How About we

518
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: fight at Callum Smith, who's an unbeaten champion at super middleweight.

519
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: How about we fight at Charlow to unify middlewaight belts.

520
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: How about we entertain the idea of Eryl Spence coming up?

521
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: How about himI Mungia, your guy? How about we do

522
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: a fun fight there in All Mexico Showdown. This is

523
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: gonna be fun, Luke, this is gonna be fun. I

524
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: just don't want to see my guy big Red in

525
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: a courtroom for two years. You do remember andre Ward Saga? Correct?

526
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: Yes? I don't. I think this might be a way

527
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum. I mean, here's probably the good

528
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: news about this. Either he is a free agent, and

529
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: I suspect they'll come to some kind of fight pretty quickly.

530
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: How good of a fight it will be I don't know,

531
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: but you know, getting Canelo back into rotation pretty quickly

532
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: that I think would happen. Or on the other side,

533
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: it's what we said it was initially, which is this

534
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: is a way to like shake de Zone into action,

535
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: or to you know, force them to give into Canelo's

536
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: wishes one way or the other, or just be more

537
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: accommodating in some kind of way. If it's If it's that,

538
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 1: either way, it looks like you're gonna get Canelo sooner

539
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: rather than later December. I don't know. I mean, that

540
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: would probably only be true if he's a free agent.

541
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Zone is in a position otherwise.

542
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: But also I gotta say this, man Dezone, I don't

543
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: know what kind of shape they're in. And I realize

544
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: we work for Showtime that makes any kind of commentary

545
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: we have here somewhat biased. I still am a Zone subscriber.

546
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: I did not cancel my Diszone subscription. I kept it

547
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: running the whole time. I never paused it and never

548
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: took a month off nothing. I have maintained access to

549
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: the platform this whole time. But I gotta tell you,

550
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: as a observer in the media, and frankly as a consumer,

551
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: I just don't know what I'm I don't know what

552
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm paying for. You know, I get the occasional heimimoon

553
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: Gia fight or you know something that you bring to

554
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: my attention. Uh, Devin Haney, I think you know, certainly

555
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: as somebody who's been in his zone with the Zone,

556
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: but in general, it's like, what am I paying for

557
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: a month over month? I'm not sure I know. BC,

558
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't really have a good grasp on that.

559
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ac and Brock Chris Mannix's video pod, I don't

560
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: know what you're paying for, Luke Bellatour, I guess you're

561
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, but we can get that on CBS Sports Network,

562
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: So look, I don't have a good answer there. But again,

563
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: whether it's on to Zone in December, I want to

564
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: see Canelo back. We'll be following this story closely and

565
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: will certainly update you whether we do a bonus pot

566
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 2: if something big happens with this, but we'll be on it.

567
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: Let's stay back on track here, Luke. With the news

568
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: at hand, we did want to address, of course, Gervonte Davis,

569
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: less than a week removed from that spectacular knockout of

570
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: Leo Santa Cruz on Showtime Bay per View and oh,

571
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: by the way, this Saturday, nine pm Eastern on Showtime,

572
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: full replay of that fight, which was your knockout of

573
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 2: the year. There, folks, leave that spectacular. Unfortunately, Luke Dravonte

574
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: back in the news for potentially the wrong reasons, as

575
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 2: sources have told Baltimore police that he may have been

576
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 2: involved in a hit and run early Wednesday. It happened

577
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: a mile away from a club in which Dravonte was

578
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: at a party at He has not been arrested. Was

579
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: not no word at this point if he was driving

580
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: the car or if he was even in the vehicle.

581
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: Police are still investigating it. Sources a lot of sources

582
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: out there. Team Dravonte has given a no comment to

583
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: TMZ one reached out. But Luke, obviously Dravonte, we want

584
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: him to get back on the straight and narrow in

585
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: and out of the ring and on the scales. Because

586
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: you saw Saturday night, full speed Ahead, Dravante, all powers,

587
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: pressing forward, Wonder, twin powers Activate. He's among the best

588
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 2: fighters in this game with really the highest ceiling commercially.

589
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: When you see this, what is your reaction.

590
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: Luke, Well, listen until there's more information available or you know,

591
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: if I should say and or he's charged, there's there's

592
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: not a whole lot you can say, or frankly even

593
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: should say obviously, if and it is a big if

594
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: it is true, it's a terrible look. Although again not

595
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: necessarily the end of the world. But I'll just say this,

596
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: It's like, listen, I've never been a celebrity. I'm never

597
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: probably going to be a celebrity, as I don't know

598
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: what it's like to be young at twenty five and

599
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: twenty six and rich and famous. But here's what I

600
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: do know. I've seen plenty of people in the world

601
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: who have been as rich and as famous, more so

602
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: than him. And yes, some have succumbed to some of

603
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: the pressures that lead to a bit of a wild

604
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: and undisciplined life, but I've seen plenty who did it

605
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: no problem. I'll say this with the average person because

606
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 1: that's what I've been most of my life. It's not

607
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: hard to not get in trouble. It's fairly easy, actually.

608
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: You just need to do the things you are expected

609
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: to do. Don't hang out with weirdos, don't hang out

610
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: with losers, don't get behind the we love a car.

611
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: If you've been drinking, have someone, if you have the

612
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: money to be a you know, sober driver, or look

613
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: over your affairs or whatever. It's frankly not that hard.

614
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Yet when you get in trouble out in bars or

615
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: clubs or behind the wheel, it's because somewhere along the line,

616
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: you clearly acted recklessly. You know. It's just it's always

617
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: the case. It's never a case where someone drugged you

618
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: then threw you into the the you know, the the

619
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: front seat of a car, duct tape your hands to

620
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: the wheel and then put a brick in your shoe

621
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: so that you know the car would just drive off you.

622
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 1: You took actions to just not mitigate risk. And if

623
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: Dravante Davis, who yes, probably lives a very different life

624
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: than I live when I was twenty five or twenty six,

625
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: I recognize. But also what that means is he's got

626
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: a lot more to lose. BC. All I had to

627
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: lose when I was twenty five or twenty six was

628
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: a week's supply of Ramen noodles. Wouldn't have been that

629
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: bad if I had, you know, gone old tits up

630
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: in a ditch somewhere. No one really cares. But if

631
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: you're Dravante Davis, you have your whole career in front

632
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: of you, You have massive paydays, you have fans to gain,

633
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: You just have so much. The world will be your

634
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: oyster if you don't fuck up. So I don't know

635
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: if he did. I don't know if he didn't, But

636
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: if he did, he should be condemned. If he didn't,

637
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: folks need to lay off either way, young men of

638
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: the world, it is not hard to not get in trouble.

639
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: Don't be a fuck up.

640
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, just for the record, the car in

641
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: question on the hit and run was a brand new

642
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Lamborghini SUV which with no plates, which is very similar

643
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: to the one that Tank Davis was filmed in driving,

644
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: you know, shortly after the win over Leo. So we'll

645
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: see what happens on that. Maybe people should be more

646
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: like a Mike Tyson. Luke, his old mansion is not

647
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: far from where I live in Farmington, Connecticut. There the

648
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: one that fifty cent ended up buying from him. They

649
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: got the full stripper polling dance club in the house.

650
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: Luke.

651
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: You don't have to drive, you don't have to mess around.

652
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: The freaks come out at night in your house. Right,

653
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: That's that's what That's what Luke will do with a

654
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: couple more trips to the Jiri epops.

655
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: Right. That Lamborghini he bought is about if you if

656
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: you bought it like you know, decked out or whatever,

657
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: fully loaded. You're talking almost three hundred grand.

658
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: Wow, membership to that level of pay per view stardom

659
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: has its privileges. We'll be following that story as well here, Luke. Also, Hey,

660
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: let's talk about Titaygate here for the UFC middleweight champion

661
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: Israel Attisignia. We do remember a lot of Guyno talk

662
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: at the idea of his flabby right nipple during that

663
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: knockout of Paulo Costa to defend no Jay. We're gonna

664
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: do the UFC thing now, thank you, to defend the.

665
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: Jays. Like Yo, that's that's six foot four Nigerian Kiwi

666
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: looks just like the five foot seven dude from charm City. Wow.

667
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: Really showing your true colors.

668
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: There, and that flabby nipple of which Otto Signi didn't

669
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: really have a strong excuse. A lot of you know,

670
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: led a lot of people to believe potential ped use. Well,

671
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: a lot of SIGNYI talk with ESPN and he was

672
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: asked if he was had an update on this. He

673
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: said pet Gate, No, my petuitary glen was checked. Hormone

674
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: levels are fine, estrogen and testosterone. Yesterday we had ultra

675
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: sound in a mammogram. Wow on Mano gran on those mammos,

676
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: he said, I had one for the first time, and

677
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: to be honest, it might have just been unhealthy living

678
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: a little bit like smoking weed. That's what the doctor

679
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: from the UFC said. He said, I need to stop.

680
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: But I'm not stopping. I'm just going to slow down

681
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: on the smoking weed. End quote. Hey, Luke, I've lived

682
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: this life before. Not the UFC Championship one, but the

683
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: other one. You invade yourself with couches and munchies. You

684
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: get double guyino Bro. You don't get one right, you're

685
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: saying here, you buy this.

686
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. I don't know what his doctor

687
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: told him. You know, I've never heard of I mean,

688
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: certainly I'm no medical professional or am why overly familiar

689
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: with the literature around this. But if you're asking me

690
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: if I ever heard of weed smoking causing single breast guyano, no,

691
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that ever. No, I don't listen. Man,

692
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: you all know my view on this thing. Whether he

693
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: did or he didn't, I don't use some think he

694
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: was supposed to. I don't really give a fuck. But uh,

695
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: if he's got like I almost want to try the marijuana, Like, Wow,

696
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: you've got marijuana so powerful it grows tits. Like I'm

697
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: not saying I want the tits, but wow, that's probably

698
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: some great marijuana.

699
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. In our day, Luke, people used to take their

700
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: weed and spray with bug spray. You know, they'd smoke

701
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: that wet. He's like, I gotta get the ckb stuff

702
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: that he's doing there, you know what I mean, I

703
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: could feel myself up, Luke. I wish he just would

704
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: have said, and look again, I mean, there's there's a

705
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: there's the chance that this is just a medical freak

706
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: or he pulled. I wish he just would have come

707
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: out and said, yeah, I pulled the muscle during camp.

708
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: And the point is, like to.

709
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: Have that believe.

710
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: I think it's im I almost like it better when

711
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: people lie and lie in a in an educated way

712
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: where I can pick and choose if I think you're lying,

713
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: But when you come on, say I smoke too much

714
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: weed it does, Like, come on, bro, like that that's

715
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: not that doesn't cause that.

716
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: So you want to lie to at least if they're

717
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: going to lie, you want to lie to like make

718
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: sen Yeah, somewhat more plausible given what we know about

719
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, I mean, you know it's asking. I mean,

720
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: it's all a lie. At the end of the day,

721
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Like I said, whether he did or he didn't, I

722
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck.

723
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: I feel the same thing about boxing promoters, by the way,

724
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: they're like used car salesmen most of the time.

725
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Dana too, all promoters.

726
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: Most of the time they're lying, Luke. I like when

727
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: they lie in in Eddie Hearn fashion where you feel

728
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: good about it and you're like, yeah, take my tip, bro,

729
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: take take take all, take it please, Like, go ahead,

730
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. Don't lie to me in such

731
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: an obvious dirt bag way. Again, I don't know the situation.

732
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: It's humorous at best. You and I are on that

733
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: side of the fence. I can't believe you drugged me,

734
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: dragged me, drug it me to this side of the fence, Luke,

735
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: where I'm just like they're all using At the end

736
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: of the day, I don't care. People think that's irresponsible.

737
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: They think we have a platform where we should protect

738
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: the sanctity Luke of drug use. Luke's like, I can't

739
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: wait to get to New Jersey. Brother, all right, Hey,

740
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: let's roll on. Connected to this story, though, Luke Paula

741
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: Costa is going to join Deontay and Adasanya in the

742
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: excuse gate. He's still talking about how he didn't really

743
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: show up that night.

744
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: Here's his most recent quote.

745
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 2: I don't like to talk because it might sound as

746
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: an excuse, but I had no sleep. My leg was

747
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: totally impaired, and I shouldn't have fought. I should have

748
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: postponed it for the next weekend or more. Ah, Luke,

749
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: he's still putting extra on top of that ship pile, Like, let.

750
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: Me see if I understand it's right. You're telling me

751
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: that the injury is so severe or whatever it was

752
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: that he couldn't perform up to the standard of what

753
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: he is accustomed to. Maybe through the right hand, right

754
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: that's or the right arm the presumption there. But if

755
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: you would have just waited a week, you could have Well,

756
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: how fucking severe is it if you can wait a

757
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: week and you're good to go? And that would have

758
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: made all the difference. You're not that injured. I just

759
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: don't believe that. So I'm not saying he was one

760
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: hundred percent. In fact, I suspect he probably wasn't. I

761
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: suspect there's something to be said for the fact he

762
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: probably was banged up in some kind of way that really,

763
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: you know.

764
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: You're not one hundred percent if you do this in

765
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: practice for a living now, you can't. Your body can't

766
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: sustain this.

767
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: And you know Adasanya was like one hundred and three percent,

768
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, given the growth of that right side of

769
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: his body. But I'm just saying either way, dude, it's

770
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: like if you needed a week to get right, that's

771
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: not an explanation for like basically not showing up at all.

772
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: If it had been you know, real close PC and

773
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: you could tell he was hobbling or you know something else,

774
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: that'd be one thing. It was a blowout. It was

775
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: a fucking blowout, And so I don't buy that seven

776
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: days later changes it from a blowout to a win.

777
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: Maybe less of a blowout or something, but not a win.

778
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: Here's the deal, Like I just said, if you're gonna

779
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: lie to me, lie to me in an educated way,

780
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: so I can believe you. I can want to believe you.

781
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about excuses like either come

782
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: out and say, look, I'll take the L I lost,

783
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna come back stronger. Watch out who's in

784
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: front of me next. That's how you really take an L.

785
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna lie like I don't know, we

786
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: just saw Habib with what the mumps and a broken

787
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: foot and a broken toe go out there and act

788
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: like nothing happen and take down this wild beast and Gaechee.

789
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: We just saw Tayo Femo win and respond to talks

790
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: about Lomachenko's injured shoulder by saying, I slightly tore my

791
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: mcl like two weeks before the fight. Everyone's hurt, everyone's

792
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: banged up. Caine shouldn't have taken that first JDS fight

793
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: Luke on national television with that injured knee.

794
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: He got sent to hell. Remember what he did after that, Luke?

795
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: Do you remember.

796
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: He came back and he beat.

797
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: The shit out of Junior Dos Santos twice and won

798
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: his title. Okay, then he grew love handles and had

799
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: a had an WWE run that we'd like to forget.

800
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: But outside of that, luke, he came back and did

801
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: the manly thing, so cruise like you're Paula Cruise Costa. Sorry,

802
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: Paula Costa is so damn manly. Luke, do you remember

803
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: that picture that Jay just posted with him and the

804
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: girls with the pink bikinis. Just post that all day

805
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: on your end, on your Instagram and Twitter. No more excuses, bro, Okay,

806
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: not fools out, get back in the title picture. We

807
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: will see you again because I do believe you're that good, okay.

808
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: Or just make up, make up like some kind of

809
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: excuse that sounds awesome, being like I got blown so

810
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: many times in the week before, in the week before

811
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: the fight that.

812
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: Guy. Look at this stud Bro, Guys like this should

813
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: offer zero excuses because that elegance Atisanya is this big

814
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: luke compared to this big of probably what he's packing.

815
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, come on, right.

816
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: I know, but you shouldn't your excuse me. Like listen,

817
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: I was banging so many people's mothers that I just

818
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: couldn't go on anymore, and I didn't properly save myself

819
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: for fighting that I'd be a lot more like all right, shit, okay, rematch,

820
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: let's just run this one back. But you know, the

821
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: one he's given just doesn't inspire confidence.

822
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: What's that around his necklace?

823
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: Is that a c ring?

824
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Luke? Is that the octagon?

825
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: I think it's like a like a I think it's

826
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: a rod ring.

827
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: It's an octagon. Yeah. The UFC cells dietary jewelry that

828
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: is very you know, angular and bad.

829
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I gotta give them credit, even though the

830
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: UFC did not give us the fight island that they

831
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: sold us. Have you checked out the merch, like the

832
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: T shirts and sweatshirts and hats and stuff and bear koozies,

833
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: beer coozies. It's all like really good stuff. It's very colorful.

834
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: It's good merch.

835
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: Luke.

836
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: I can't wait till it's like five ninety nine on

837
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: the UFC site and I'm gonna wear it and I'm

838
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: gonna buy it and wear it all over like this. Hey, Luke,

839
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: how about this UFC two hundred shirt right here? That

840
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: fight didn't happen at UFC two hundred.

841
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: Luke, did you go to UFC two hundred? Did I

842
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 1: see you there?

843
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: I did? And I got this UFC two hundred Connor

844
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: Ny Diaz poster that fight didn't happen either at two hundred.

845
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, you know what's funny is I remember when

846
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: I have UFC two hundred. I flew out there on

847
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: a Wednesday, so Wednesday morning, and I had to take

848
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: I think I couldn't even take direct because serious ExM

849
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: made me take Southwest Airlines. All I know is I

850
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: landed local time in Vegas, I want to say, nine

851
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: to thirty ish, and I opened my phone and I

852
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: turn it on and it was the first thing I

853
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: saw was and it was real. It was like within

854
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: a minute of me turning it on, John Jones out

855
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: due to test failure, and I was like, you gotta be.

856
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: I was at the road for that that press conference

857
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: where he cried and he came out with the handler.

858
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Who's that lady? I was there, the.

859
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Fixer, the fixer. Yeah, that was a wild week, Luke. Also,

860
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: do you remember you and I covered not together? We

861
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: didn't we you know, we were friendly, but we certainly

862
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: we certainly weren't hanging out in each other's hotel rooms. Uh.

863
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: The UFC New York card one of the two either

864
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: two seventeen or two thirty, and John and Gustafsen did

865
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: a press conference at the MSG Theater.

866
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: You remember that. I was not there for that. I

867
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: had to watch that from the Serious Exum studios. But yes,

868
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: I remember it.

869
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, I sat next to your producer, That's what happened.

870
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: I sat next to uh, what's her name, she's fantasy

871
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: Marissa Marissa, and I rose. I raised my hand and

872
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, Gus, John's done a ton of drugs.

873
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: Do you have any reservations taking this fight to make

874
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: sure he's clean? And I think the first thing I

875
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: got on my phone was a text from you saying, Wow,

876
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: you had a good run covering John Jones. Welcome to

877
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 2: the club. John glared at me during that question, so hard, Luke,

878
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: so hard?

879
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you have you had an interview with him

880
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: since then?

881
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: Yes?

882
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: And actually two of them on camera and after weigh ins,

883
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: and they went very well.

884
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was fun.

885
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: Look.

886
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he remembers, but uh, you didn't. You're

887
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: not the only one that got shut out. He banned

888
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: Brett O Kamoto for a bunch of years. Yeah, and

889
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: in fact, uh, when he flew into Bristol one day.

890
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: I was Brett's editor at the time. And I had

891
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: to interview John because he uh he one of the

892
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: things he said, I'll come, but I'm not talking to Kamoto.

893
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: Which is ridiculous because the guy's so handsome, like.

894
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: You wanna said, right, Well, they buried, they buried the hatchet.

895
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: I think I think that John and uh Brett have

896
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: a relationship now. I still to this day, I really

897
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: wonder what the fuck could I have possibly said for

898
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: lifelong ostracism. I guarantee you it's not that big a deal.

899
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: I guarantee you probably forgot about it during that time.

900
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: During that time, I did criticize John on occasion it

901
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: did happen, but if anything had gone on during that time,

902
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: I was being lambasted by the fan base for my

903
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: reflexive defense of John. It was actually kind of comical

904
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: that I was the one that he got really bitter

905
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: at for those reasons. I would, I got, I would,

906
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about it, and just you know, who

907
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: gives a shit anymore because it's never gonna happen. But

908
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: like to this day, it's like, dude, what the fuck,

909
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: What the fuck could I have possibly said that would

910
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: get him this mad? Who the fuck knows? You know?

911
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: All right, Luke. Let's move on.

912
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: We got Thursday Night. Last night, Thursday Night's you Bellatour

913
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: two fifty one card that took place on the CBS

914
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: Sports Network. That car from the Movegan Sun, Yeah it sucks. Look,

915
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: people say, oh, you're belatour shills, Well, you know, are

916
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: we the checks? If the check's fat enough, I won't kid.

917
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: We previewed the card. The car wasn't great. We do

918
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: have a couple of things to talk about. Corey Anderson

919
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: made his Bellatour debut, and he gave it to Melvin

920
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: man Hoof to nearly two full rounds of ground and

921
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: pound Luke before stopping him, taking Manhoof down with ease.

922
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: He outstruck him thirty eight to one in that opening

923
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: round and in that second round when his corner told

924
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: him to go for the finish, you saw some vicious

925
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: elbows that cut Melvin open. The fight stopped right after that.

926
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: After the fight, Cory Anderson said, I don't care who

927
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: has the belt next, whether it's Nemkov, whether it's Phil Davis.

928
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: If Phil gets the next fight, I need to fight

929
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 2: the champion next. Your thoughts in general on this Bellatour

930
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: debut for ot.

931
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Look this is arguably a situation where a Manhoff shouldn't

932
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: even be fighting, and not because he wasn't winning fights

933
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: more recently. He was just because of the amount of

934
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: damage he's taken in his MMA and kickboxing careers over

935
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: the years. And so, you know, I wasn't exactly enamored

936
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: with the matchmaking. And you know, it was also a

937
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: two of five. It's like, you know, Melvin is his

938
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: best at one eighty five, but okay, he neither here

939
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: nor there. So let's just sort of pose it that

940
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Corey Anderson was taking on overmatched opposition. It's a hard

941
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: thing to look good when you're expected to just blow

942
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: somebody up. But I'll say this, I thought Corey looked awesome.

943
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: You know, he was expected to look awesome, but he

944
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: met all those expectations. He dictated where the fight took place.

945
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: He almost dictated when the fight took place. Like he

946
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: had Manhoff so defensive, reacting to not merely his pressure

947
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: from his takedowns, but his fakes and his feints and

948
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: everything else in between. He really had this guy not

949
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: shook person. I don't think he was afraid, but just

950
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: constantly worried about what Anderson was gonna do and could

951
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: never get out a first gear, and then he was

952
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: able to look good on the feet as long as

953
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: he needed to. He found the takedown when he wanted

954
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: to be passed. The phenomenal ground and pound in both

955
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: rounds from different kinds of spaces in different kinds of ways.

956
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: This was a one sided ass kicking. And not only that,

957
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: Corey looked calm the whole time. He didn't look like

958
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: he was rushing into anything. I mean, you might say, well,

959
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: if it was a blowout, why couldn't you finish him

960
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: in the first round. It's like, well, you know, b see,

961
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: you know this as well as I do. Smart veteran

962
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: fighter will get the finish if there really is that

963
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: much of a differential. But they'll take their time. They're

964
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: not gonna rush anything, okay, Jorge mass with all Ben

965
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: Askrin notwithstanding. In general, you know they're gonna patiently execute

966
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: and if there's a difference, it's gonna show up pretty quickly.

967
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: That's exactly what you saw. So to me, Cory Anderson

968
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: had to do a lot to just kind of break even,

969
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: so to speak. But he did all of that and

970
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: then some He really has come into his own He's

971
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: a smart, patient, talented, well rounded fighter, and I think

972
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: BC and I would love to know where you're at

973
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: on this. I don't think it makes sense for him

974
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: to fight Phil Davis next. I understand the argument that, hey,

975
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: you should fight someone else before getting vedeem Nemkov.

976
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: No, he was saying, if Davis beats, if Davis gets

977
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: the next shot and beat with them KAV.

978
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: But this is my thing. Nemkov already beat Phil Davis.

979
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: He already, it already happened. I don't think Davis has

980
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: done enough to warn another title shot. I think Corey

981
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: is a hot, exciting new challenger. My thought is, give

982
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 1: Davis the winner of Anderson and them cough.

983
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with that. And Davis is fresh off the

984
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: win over Machieda to get back in the win column. Look, Anderson,

985
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: he talked a lot of stuff that can be You

986
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: can think of it as like cliche fighter talk, but

987
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: I think for him it was it was real. He

988
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: basically said, you know all that stuff, I don't want

989
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: to be a trash talker anymore. I don't want to

990
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: be even a stand up fighter. I don't want to

991
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 2: be the person or the fighter that UFC was trying

992
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: to make me. I just want to be myself and

993
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: play to my strengths. Look, if he keeps doing that,

994
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna end up being the the Bellatore light

995
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion. I would maybe not probably. I mean here,

996
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: here's the conversation right here, the fact that him against

997
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: them cough is a badass fight. I really want to

998
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: see that. I think Belatour has a fantastic matchup on

999
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: its hands if they do make that next. And the

1000
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: good news again for Corey Anderson is I want to

1001
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: see him pretty much against all those top light heavyweights.

1002
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play this game with you as Bellator's

1003
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: light heavyweight.

1004
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: Division, you know, stronger or better than UFC's.

1005
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: But I will say if he ends up fighting Phil

1006
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: Davis or Machidah or you know Usacy potentially and them

1007
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: call like, I want to see all these matchups, and

1008
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: this is great. Corey Anderson looks right now ready to

1009
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: be a belt or light heavyweight champion. And look, I'm

1010
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: happy for him if he's getting paid in a comfortable manner,

1011
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: which he always felt he deserved. So big win. There

1012
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: expected nothing else you can say about it. Uh Luke,

1013
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: did you see this interesting Derek Anderson Killey'smota fight, which

1014
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: was kind of interesting coming in on paper. And then killy' Smota,

1015
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: the Brazilian who was making his second Belt to Our appearance,

1016
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: was kicking Derek Anderson's ass all over the place in

1017
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: this welterweight bout, taking him down, nearly submitting him. And

1018
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: when Derek Anderson began to turn it around, it was

1019
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: a kick to the side of the cheek on Mota.

1020
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: As Mota was popping up off the ground, he had

1021
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: one fist down and his knee which was down, was

1022
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: coming up off the canvas. So in the moment, referee

1023
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: Mike Beltron ruled it an illegal strike. Doctor came in,

1024
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: but they went to the instant replay and rightfully sow

1025
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: luke from the stance that they got it right. The

1026
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: kick was legal. But tell me where I'm what I'm

1027
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: missing here on the rules, they still stop the fight.

1028
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: They gave Dereck Anderson a TKO win.

1029
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: It didn't look like Mota was dead. I mean it

1030
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: was a it was a nice skick. I didn't think

1031
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: he killed him.

1032
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: Why in MMA, were we already are willing to stop

1033
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: a fight for five full minutes on any kind of

1034
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: foul and give that person that got hit the full

1035
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: time to recover. Why are we not stopping the fight,

1036
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 2: having a replay official ready getting the verdict and then

1037
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: going nope, it was clean fight? On How the hell

1038
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: is Derek Anderson going to win here?

1039
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: Because Mota couldn't continue. He was given the option. If

1040
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: it's a legal strike, you're given the option to if

1041
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: it's dick, if it's an illegal strike. I'm not could

1042
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: be wrong about this, but I know that he had

1043
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity to continue and declined, and so that was that.

1044
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: Uh but I think also, if you stop the fight,

1045
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: can you just you know what, I'm not sure I'm

1046
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: making shit up.

1047
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to seek The rule is that if

1048
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: you go to the replay, the fight cannot be restarted.

1049
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: That's that's that's exactly right. So once they did that,

1050
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: it was over. But I thought that, uh fuck, I

1051
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: don't know, dude, I'm actually gonna speak out of turn.

1052
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak that turn.

1053
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: Here.

1054
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say on this.

1055
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: The one comment strike though, did you see the strike?

1056
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: Luke?

1057
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna look so he.

1058
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: Basically what happened was he had two knees down. He

1059
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: had two knees down and a hand, And what he

1060
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: ended up doing was, if you look closely, there's a

1061
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: moment where he balances on one foot and one hand

1062
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: and the other knee comes up, so he just has

1063
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: a foot and a hand down and no knee for

1064
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: a split second, and the excuse me, the kick lands

1065
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: right in that space. It's a little bit hard to

1066
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: tell from the highlight there, but you can without knowing

1067
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: the rules properly. And before I say something, I don't

1068
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: know the answer to. The only thing I had is

1069
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: I saw people being like, well, why aren't kicks legal?

1070
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: If you know what's the functional difference between this and

1071
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: actually having, you know, a knee and a hand are

1072
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: both knees down, it really would be the same in

1073
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: the end. And I can't argue with that BC. But

1074
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: here's what I would say. If you put enough restrictions

1075
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: on a rule, there are gonna be situations where like

1076
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: this happens, and you say to yourself, how meaningful is this?

1077
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: If we can allow something that looks just like what

1078
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: it would be we would normally be allowing for in

1079
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: a different circumstance. The answer is if you make it illegal,

1080
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: you might find situations that are able to thread a

1081
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: very tiny needle, or they're able to get through a

1082
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: very tiny window of cases, but it will limit the

1083
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: overall amount of ones that could cause more reckless damage.

1084
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not for changing some of the

1085
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: rules of combat, but just because this one situation looks

1086
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: like it would have looked had he had both knees down,

1087
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that still limiting the scope overall

1088
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: limits the amount of damage. If that's something you're trying

1089
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: to aim.

1090
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: For, I just alll that. So here's how it happened.

1091
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: Beltron asked Motive if he can continue. You saw that

1092
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: in the video. When Mota said no, they waved it off.

1093
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: The fights over. Then Beltran says, we have the option

1094
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: of replay. Let's go to it. So he's following protocol.

1095
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: And look, if the protocol is that the fight can't

1096
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 2: be restarted, well then that's my issue because you saw

1097
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 2: the video.

1098
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: Look, I'm not the one getting kicked in the face.

1099
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it didn't hurt.

1100
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it didn't wobble him, but it didn't

1101
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: look like a fight ending blow.

1102
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: I would rather than say.

1103
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: To Mota in that moment, can you continue, because what

1104
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: are his options? Continue and wait five minutes and be damaged,

1105
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: or say no and have a chance at a cheap win.

1106
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: I'd rather not that be in play. I'd rather say,

1107
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: let's go to the video now and then dude, if

1108
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 2: you can't continue, you lose. That's it the way that

1109
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: it's set up now. Instead, I think that it's I

1110
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: don't think it works for anybody, because I don't think

1111
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: Derek Anderson deserved to have won this fight Luca at best.

1112
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: The way the rules are set up, I think it

1113
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 2: should have been a no contest.

1114
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, and way to your point. For folks who

1115
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: didn't see the fight, Anderson was losing in every phase

1116
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: of that of that fight shovin nice. Yeah, he did

1117
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: have a nice takedown there towards the end, which he

1118
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: carried Mota to his own corner so he could hear

1119
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: their instructions. But even then, you know, this guy a

1120
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: killes Moto was. He looked great. I'm actually encouraged to

1121
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: see more from him. But the rules being what they are,

1122
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, and of the way it did.

1123
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: Let's change the damn rules. First of all, and let's

1124
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: get him unified across all mixed martial arts in this country.

1125
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what promotion, it doesn't matter what state.

1126
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: Why is this so hard? Let's unify the damn rules

1127
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: and let's set it up.

1128
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: Luke.

1129
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: If you're gonna use instant replay, then use it the

1130
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: right fricking way.

1131
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to take twenty minutes.

1132
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: You got a referee on the side with a TV

1133
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: that makes his decision, signals the referee and we either

1134
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: stop or we keep going.

1135
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, it does it seem that hard?

1136
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: Or we gonna talk to though about the real winner

1137
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: of the night, Austin Vanderford.

1138
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stayed on beating at middleweight, took on late

1139
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 2: replacement Zeus. So here's the deal, Luke. He kicked Dave

1140
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: Zeus's ass, He took him down at will. Those are

1141
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: not highlights from last night, and he uh great jab

1142
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: and ground and pound was there. But Luke, I'm not

1143
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: trying to take anything away from him given that he

1144
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: has the worst tattoo of all time on his throat.

1145
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: Did you see a guy who who ever looked like

1146
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: he was close to a finish? I felt like I

1147
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: needed the finish to put that statement on that win.

1148
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: You know what I thought about that too, I was like,

1149
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: for as much ass as he's kicking here, why aren't

1150
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: we closer to a finish? I had the exact same

1151
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: thought you did. Here's what I'll say if you guys

1152
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: didn't see this. I mean Paige van Zand is his wife.

1153
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: She's obviously the much more famous of the two, but

1154
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: he's the much better fighter in every way. He is

1155
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: significantly more talented than she is. He looked good like

1156
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: he is turning into a legitimate, real talented fighter. It's

1157
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: very impressive to see how far he's come, and I

1158
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: still got a long way to go. In to your point,

1159
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: what about the finishing? I have a feeling BC, and

1160
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: I certainly have no proof. This is just a theory,

1161
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: a hypothesis, a hunch, whatever you want to call it.

1162
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: He had been off for a while and he was

1163
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: looking to get back to action. I wonder if he

1164
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: dragged it out a little bit and didn't really like

1165
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: super Hunt the finish in an effort to get the

1166
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: most amount of time in the cage that he needed,

1167
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: especially since he was basically safe no matter what he

1168
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: did to just make sure he didn't have too much

1169
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: ring rust for the next time out. You know, if

1170
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: you go in there and you blow the guy's doors

1171
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: off in two minutes, it's not a lot of time

1172
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: spending there getting back the you know, the feeling of

1173
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: a fight under your feet. Well, he got it all

1174
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: back here. Maybe that's wrong, maybe I'm being too kind,

1175
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he has bad finishing instincts, but either way, he

1176
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 1: dominated the shit out of this fight.

1177
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the replays right here of the victory over.

1178
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't ah both in the marriage bed and the

1179
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: tattoo chair. But if he can bring that to the

1180
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: cage as well, Luke, it'll be interesting. By the way,

1181
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: a lot of rumors about Page Van's Ant's BKFC debut

1182
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: that it could come Super Bowl weekend. We'll see where

1183
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: that goes. I know you love yourself some p.

1184
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: V I mean, hard to imagine caring less.

1185
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: But okay, all right, let's get off a belatory, Luke.

1186
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: I want to bring back in the Canelo thing real quick,

1187
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: because we have a major update here. ESPN Deporte Salvador

1188
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: Rodriguez is reporting through sources that Canelo Alvarez has been

1189
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: released from both his Golden Boy Promotions deal and his

1190
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: The Zone contract. Look, if this is true, this is massive,

1191
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: and what.

1192
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: This is arguat wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,

1193
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: read it one more time. He is both free from

1194
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: the Zone and Golden.

1195
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: Boy and Golden Boy.

1196
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: So that would tell you, if true, Luke, that they

1197
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 2: must have felt this is a legal battle that either

1198
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: they can't win or they don't want to go down

1199
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: that road and they just want to end it here.

1200
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: That's massive, and there's another there's another caveat here. A

1201
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: source told Rodriguez, who by the way, is a very

1202
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: credible reporter, that Alvarez and his team are targeting a

1203
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: December nineteenth return at super middleweight. Get this Luke against

1204
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: IBF champion Caleb Plant. Whoa buddy? Whoa so?

1205
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: Who would have rights to that? PBC?

1206
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: Uh?

1207
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 2: Well, Caleb Plant is a PBC fighter. If Canelo is

1208
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 2: a true network and promotional free agent, there's a great

1209
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: chance that would be on O the Fox pay per

1210
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: view or Showtime pay per view given the PBC contracts.

1211
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: Plant has fought most recently on Fox and Fox pay

1212
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: per View. On Luke, that is a massive fight.

1213
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, stunner.

1214
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: I've gone on record before saying I think Caleb Plant

1215
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: has the skills where he could be a major problem

1216
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: for Canelo, given that he can box and has defense

1217
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: in real handspeed. Luke, this would be very interesting if

1218
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: this is true, and that's a huge fight that could

1219
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: be parachuted into our laps. Look, it's a it's a

1220
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: it's a story that's still developing as we speak, but

1221
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: that is the ESPN report at the moment.

1222
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: So wow, Luke, Wow, man, that is boy. You want

1223
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: to talk about a Friday News dump BC. Yeah, what

1224
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: do you so? What do you think he ends up?

1225
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: Do you think he ends up with Fox or you know?

1226
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: And again we're by by the way he ends up

1227
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: with anybody, Luke, I think that's okay for one one

1228
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 1: fight deal. Here's what I'm saying that the Plant fight

1229
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: one fight deal. I'm biased. I would fucking love for

1230
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: him to end up on showtime because that would mean

1231
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: that would mean we either get to cover the fights

1232
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: or like for the last fight, BC, we don't get

1233
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: invited to the actual host city, but we go back

1234
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: to Jersey City where he could do roof service.

1235
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: Diaries again with a legal with a new legal substance. Luke,

1236
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: I will say that Canelo obviously does have that history

1237
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 2: with Showtime pay per view. He fought Arizloni, Laara, Alfredo Angulo,

1238
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, so it would be interesting either way.

1239
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: Luke.

1240
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: If this is the fight, by the way, that's a

1241
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: hell of a fight. I mean, that is fantastic. So

1242
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 2: we'll see where that goes real quick, Luke, Saturday onto,

1243
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: speaking of his own they do have a fight card

1244
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: on Saturday. It is a fight you do need to see.

1245
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: WBC lightweight champion. Hey, isn't Tao Fima Lopez the undisputed Yeah,

1246
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 2: we've been through that before. Devin Haney technically is your

1247
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: WBC regular lightweight champion. He's gonna defend it against your

1248
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: Yorkist Scamboa. Interesting test here, now, look, Gamboa is older

1249
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: and on the other side, but he did give despite

1250
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: an Achilles injury. Dravonte Davis problems problems not necessarily winning

1251
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 2: that fight, but surviving going into the twelfth round before

1252
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: getting stopped. Gamboa, the former Cuban amateur star, certainly still

1253
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: had speed. Luke got a couple other things in his factor.

1254
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: Despite the fact that he's you know, not in his

1255
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: prime anymore. This is an interesting test for Devin Haney,

1256
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: who showed us flashes of brilliance but really doesn't have

1257
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: that signature win yet. And really, if we're being honest,

1258
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: didn't really earn or deserve the championship status yet. But

1259
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: we got to see where he's at because we're talking

1260
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: about Tao, We're talking about Javonte, Ryan Garcia's got a

1261
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: big fight, Shakur Stevenson's trying to.

1262
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: Get a big one.

1263
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: We're talking about those five stars who have next in

1264
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: the future, who are twenty six, twenty five and under.

1265
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: Devin Haney's got a nice close up here.

1266
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: Can we can we just talk about how bad that

1267
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 1: de Zonne deal was with Golden Bloy and Canello, Like, dude,

1268
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: they were talking about, you know, the richest contract in

1269
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: sports history, bigger than Bryce Harper's deal, and blah blah blah,

1270
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: and the whole thing was premised on I know you're

1271
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: asking about Devin Haney. He should beat the fuck out

1272
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: of your yorkiscamboa. I think we both know that, and

1273
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: he probably will. I just can't get over this Canelo thing, dude,

1274
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: because let me say one more thing about this, And

1275
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: what we'll do is for Mikey, who's watching our producer

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00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: chop up all the different pieces of this and put

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00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: together a reaction because I'll say this, dude, the whole

1278
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: idea of his own generally, but really that driving force.

1279
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: Remember Canelo was doing the ads with Bruce Buffer. Yeah,

1280
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: was it No, Bruce's brother, the other Buffer, Michael Buffer.

1281
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 1: He was doing those ads where they were talking about

1282
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: this is the this is the end of pay per view.

1283
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: This is it. It's over. By the way, what the

1284
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: fuck does this mean for Golden Boy now that their

1285
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: biggest trottraction is gone from the stables like this, this

1286
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: is shattering news man.

1287
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, Luke their second biggest attraction, Ryan

1288
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 2: Garcia is both trained and co managed by Canelo's trainer.

1289
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: He's in the Canelo camp, and when Ryan Garcia had

1290
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: problems with Golden Boy a year ago, Canelo was retweeting

1291
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia's angry tweets.

1292
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: So I'm saying overall.

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: This is bad news for his own it's probably even work,

1294
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: not probably Luke. This is massively bad for Golden Boy promotions.

1295
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 3: This is really really bad. Look, we need to really

1296
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: spell them out.

1297
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you know you know better than I do.

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: Is it ruinous?

1299
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: It's certainly not ruinous because if you can retain Ryan Garcia,

1300
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 2: they also have a very very good looking player there

1301
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: in that that rising on beating Walter. Wait, what the

1302
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 2: heck's the guy's name? Virgil Ortiz Junior? Who who, Luke,

1303
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm telling you within a year is going to be

1304
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: in that in that group right that we now have

1305
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: with like Spence Crawford Porter, he looks like the goods.

1306
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: But there were court filings that came out where Canelo

1307
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: was something like one hundred and twenty percent of of

1308
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: Golden Boys revenue in one calendar year a couple of

1309
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: years back. So I mean they eat because of Canelo, right,

1310
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: because he fights right on paper.

1311
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: Book him to understand, right, to correct me if I'm WRONGBC.

1312
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: It's not just that Canelo brings in money, right, It's

1313
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: that they use Canelo to set up all kinds of

1314
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: deals for other fights he's not even involved with, like

1315
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: a content deal, because he's sort of this leveraging chip.

1316
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: You lose him, you lose not only the money he

1317
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: generates for his fights, you lose the leverage that you

1318
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: get to make the content for the other ones.

1319
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's part of the vibe between

1320
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 2: Canelo and Golden Boy.

1321
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: Golden Boy, because of Canelo.

1322
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: Signing his individual deal with the Zone, was able to

1323
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: sign a huge deal for Golden Boy Promotions in general,

1324
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: of which Canelo feels he should have gotten a certain

1325
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 2: amount of money from because you don't get that deal

1326
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: without him. So there's been a lot of back and

1327
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: forth there. But Luke, I'm not gonna say it's ruinous,

1328
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: but this removes them as a major player. This is

1329
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: bad news. And obviously if you're to Zone, I mean

1330
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 2: that holy Gark in Ukraine emptied his vault and look,

1331
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: it may be few money to him because he's got

1332
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: much bigger global fish to fry. The Zone just made

1333
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: a big global announcement last week. But Looke, you spent

1334
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: all that money thirty five million per fight to get

1335
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: Canelo in and then spend one hundred million on bringing

1336
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: a triple G and again you never made the one

1337
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: fight that you built your platform around. I don't again,

1338
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want de Zone to go away.

1339
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: I just want them to make the kind of fights

1340
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 2: that makes it all worth it. And this is a

1341
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: is a damaging Blowlok, very damaging.

1342
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: Man. We're gonna be talking about this one for a while.

1343
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you off. Devin hates Fine, he's

1344
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: gonna beat the fuck out of here. Yokuscamboa right now.

1345
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: I just can't. I'm just I'm blown away. I'm blown

1346
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: away by the whole thing. That's man. It's like it's

1347
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: like nothing happens for weeks and then everything happens all

1348
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: at once. It's crazy, isn't it.

1349
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're more blown away than no, I'll leave that

1350
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: gross joke.

1351
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: No more blown away than Bohashena should have been before

1352
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: his fight without a sign.

1353
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I was going somewhere Lewinsky, and I

1354
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: didn't have the hook on you, all right, Luke? Uh

1355
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: we know Mike Tyson Roy Jones going to fight later

1356
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: this month in November Thanksgiving weekend.

1357
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: By the way, I was on Rogan's podcast about that.

1358
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: Are they fighting for like the Black Lives Matter bell?

1359
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the WBC Frontline Belt. People need to realize

1360
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: this is shameless and ridiculous, but it's not a real title.

1361
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: WBC does this anytime they don't have a real title

1362
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: in a fight if Canelo's fighting and they and he's

1363
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: not the WBC champion at the moment, they'll come out

1364
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: and create the WBC Mayan Belt that has two million

1365
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: dollars of rubies on it. Luke, it's worthless, bro Okay,

1366
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: most of these titles are worthless anyway. This is actually worthless, Okay,

1367
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: shout out to putting Black Lives Matter on a belt.

1368
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: I'm all for it, but it's worthless, Luke.

1369
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: Okay.

1370
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 2: So Mike Tyson is open, by the way now to

1371
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: fighting on past Roy Jones if things go well, and

1372
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: one of those things he's open for isnt Exander Holyfield trilogy. Now,

1373
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: holy Field is also in his early fifties, but it's

1374
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: stayed healthy and he's back in the gym attempting a

1375
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: similar style comeback. Here's a quote from Tyson. That's always

1376
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: something that we can do if the people want it,

1377
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: if it's pragmatic enough, I'd love to do it.

1378
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: Luke.

1379
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 3: This feels very cart before the horse.

1380
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: Because if this Tyson Jones fight, and by the way,

1381
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: they are competing against the California State Commission, which is

1382
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: still going on record and saying if they try to

1383
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: knock each other out, we're gonna step in.

1384
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how.

1385
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1386
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 2: Roy Jones is saying in every interview I'm willing to

1387
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 2: die in there. Tyson just came out and said, I'm

1388
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: basically I'm willing to execute him.

1389
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 3: If this fight. There's a lot of ways this fight

1390
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: can be fun.

1391
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: Let's not forget Kimbo sliced against Ken Shamrock under the

1392
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: belt or banner was sloppy as balls, but it was

1393
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: kind of fun at the same time.

1394
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 3: This may end up being fun, Luke.

1395
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 2: This may also be an absolute embarrassing train wreck on

1396
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: the level of that Mike Tyson World Tour Sparring pay

1397
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: per view from two thousand and five. Remember that where

1398
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: he fought that fat guy Corey Sanders and a T

1399
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: shirt and they wore headgear and he knocked him down,

1400
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: and it was just like, what are we doing here?

1401
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, sure, Mike, you can have a trilogy with Holyfield.

1402
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: You know, Okay, you remember that Everson an Onion article.

1403
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: It was like fat kid at pool with shirt on

1404
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: confuses everyone about his weight. Look, I don't care about

1405
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: this Vander Holyfield shit. Like you know, Look, I can't

1406
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: sit here and lie to you and say that I wouldn't.

1407
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know or I'm not going to watch this

1408
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: h Jones Junior and Tyson fight, probably because I kind

1409
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: of have to be kept abreast of it. I don't

1410
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: know if I'll buy it or what, you know, just

1411
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: catch the stuff on social media later, but yes, I

1412
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: will pay attention to it in some capacity. Listen, I'll

1413
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: make a deal with everybody. If that fight ends up

1414
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: looking like what its truest believers say it will look

1415
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: like where you know, they look a little bit older,

1416
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: but hey, they got a little bit of life lift

1417
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: in them, I will reserve all of the I will

1418
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: I will take back all the criticisms, and I will say,

1419
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe this is something we could on

1420
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: a limited, very careful basis.

1421
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: This might be something we can three four rounds.

1422
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: Okay. But I'm telling you, if it looks like what

1423
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: I think it's going to look like, I'm gonna kill it.

1424
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to verbally assault it, and I'm

1425
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna verbally assault everyone who said it was gonna be

1426
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: anything other than that. Or you can do what BC's

1427
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: doing and say I think it's probably gonna be that,

1428
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: and I just don't care. That's the differference.

1429
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they're big enough stars.

1430
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: We love both of them.

1431
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna care. And oh, by the way, if you're

1432
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 2: not woke to this, it's already doing monster traffic on

1433
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 2: every website. We have these talks at CBS Sports, how

1434
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: can we get more Tyson? Because Jones coming? Because people care.

1435
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: Anyone you talk to that used to watch it, they care, obviously.

1436
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: I wish they can figure it out, figure out the

1437
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: best way for these guys to come out there. We

1438
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: still have a little bit of gas left without you know,

1439
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: you don't need eight rounds, we only need ten rounds. Whatever,

1440
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Look quickly, let's get into Dead Wrong.

1441
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: It's our segment we do every Friday where we look

1442
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: back on the week that was in the morning Combat

1443
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: universe and we find out what the hell we got wrong.

1444
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: I want to start off with real quick.

1445
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: What there it is?

1446
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: Yes, Dead Wrong?

1447
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: This might be everyone's favorite segment that we do, like

1448
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: outside of typical fight talk, other than have you seen

1449
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: this shit? People love Dead Wrong?

1450
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: In Jay's career, has a Jay's music career is dead Wrong.

1451
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: It's just a kid, It's just dead I'm trying to

1452
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: find quickly. I have a last minute edition. We always

1453
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: tell somebody subscribe to Showtime for thirty days and you

1454
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: can go on the app and you can check out

1455
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: that great show that we did, Luke, Strikeforce Morning Combat Classics.

1456
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: Somebody hit me up and I want to shout out

1457
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: this guy. I can't find his name. You actually can't

1458
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: find it at the moment, Luke, and we are internally

1459
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: looking into Showtime to find out what the hell happened

1460
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 2: to our show on the app. Luke. Hopefully it didn't

1461
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: get cut. Hopefully we're not cut.

1462
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: Luke. I'm gonna I want to see if that's true,

1463
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: and I have the Showtime app. Let me see.

1464
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: As of right now, I check this morning. I am

1465
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: dead wrong.

1466
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 2: You cannot find this show on the Showtime app. But

1467
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm looking into getting it added on, just like I'm

1468
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: looking in for all you international fans out there right

1469
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: the kind who actually can pound sand outside your front

1470
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: door to get you the shipping you deserve for your

1471
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: MK merch. Hopefully it's twenty twenty. You think we could

1472
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: have this fixed in one day, but hopefully we'll get that.

1473
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: Luke.

1474
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's start off with the actual dead wrong,

1475
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: all right? You ready on Wednesday show, Luke. During SJW

1476
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: Social Justice Wednesday me B, she said that al Jamaine

1477
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: Sterling's gross quote was I'm going to come on you

1478
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: Pio Trey Jan. He actually said, I'm are we really

1479
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: at this point, Luke? This is really how we're populating

1480
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: a segment? All right? So his actual question was.

1481
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: Now, now, where did al Jamaine Sterling say he was

1482
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: going to ejaculate?

1483
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: This is uh details It was the press conference after

1484
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: beating san Hagen or no, it was the interview afterwards,

1485
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: and he said quote, I'm coming on that ass, not

1486
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: on you, but on that ass.

1487
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: Are you sure he didn't say I'm coming for that ass?

1488
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: No, he said on That's why that sound bite became

1489
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: so fun, Luke, Okay, very fun.

1490
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: All right.

1491
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to keep you abreast of that situation.

1492
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: I was wrong, Luke.

1493
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: Uh just but like Adasania, just one breast? Okay, thank you?

1494
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,479
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, you were dead wrong on Joe Rogan.

1495
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: You ready for this, Luke wrong?

1496
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: When talking about Jan blohowit's first fighting at one eighty

1497
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: five before moving up to two o five. You're get

1498
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: wrong Jan Blohoitz has always been a two O five

1499
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: said that did I so take that out, Luke, take it,

1500
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: bro I don't.

1501
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: I've never ever thought of him as a light heavyweight.

1502
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: If I said a midweight. If I said that, I

1503
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 1: didn't mean to because I don't. I couldn't name a

1504
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 1: if I tried.

1505
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 3: All right, well you also, this is not in our list.

1506
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: But you you characterized Haimi Mongia as maybe the biggest

1507
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 2: puncher in boxing.

1508
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, listen to the clip again. It's

1509
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: not what I said. I said the biggest puncher in

1510
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: boxing when measured by weight. That's exactly what I said.

1511
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: So four is well, wait, I'm not here to hate

1512
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: on Haimi Mongee. He's got some fun knockouts. He's just

1513
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: not considered among that core group of like the Wilder gervontees.

1514
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: Now you new A's Arthur Beter Beams. But he's a

1515
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: fun he's more of a more of a volume action guy.

1516
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: Who's the who's there? I saw someone say something to you, Yeah,

1517
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: that was my son.

1518
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: That was my son. You know, I got a hard

1519
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: out to big business going on in the camp.

1520
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: Heard okay, I mean, you know, more than boxing than

1521
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: I do. But my understanding from everyone who's ever watched

1522
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: is that he's one of the sports leading power punchers.

1523
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: And of course, no fucking idiot on earth would say

1524
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: he's up there with Wilder for crying out loud.

1525
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,839
Speaker 2: Listen listening to the footage of him splitting Toreano Johnson's

1526
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: mouth and making it look like a vajon.

1527
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 1: Just listen to what I said it was, but it

1528
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: was when measured by weight, and for his weight, I'm

1529
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: pretty sure he's up there.

1530
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: So okay, Luke, I don't want to fight you. This

1531
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: is a segment that creates, uh, you know, not amnesty

1532
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: between us.

1533
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: Luke. All right, what did I get wrong this time? Uh?

1534
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: Luke was not the first, but the second voice on

1535
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 2: the Green Rush trailer. Green Rush is the Uriah Favor

1536
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: produced and financed weed thriller that Touchy Feely stars in.

1537
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, again, watch this movie if you

1538
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: can stream it. The first five or ten minutes makes

1539
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: it feel like a cable access production, but it becomes

1540
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good thriller action movie and it's about weeds. So, Luke,

1541
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: you were the second voice.

1542
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: On the greens all right? I'll take that out I'll

1543
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: take that. Oh that's fair. I thought I was like first,

1544
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: but you know I was pretty close.

1545
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: Our producers are splitting hairs hair. We got one more focus.

1546
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about where Aljabin Sterling Jizz is

1547
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean you know you got.

1548
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: That back? Yeah? Put it on my tramp stamp. Yeah, whatever,

1549
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 2: you got one more. I think we have a photo

1550
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: to illustrate our final dead wrong of the week.

1551
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: What is it?

1552
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't understand what this is.

1553
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: Jake.

1554
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: Can you come in and speak it?

1555
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: Please? All the wrong things?

1556
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 3: I don't have this in my notes, Jake.

1557
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 2: Can you can you save the show?

1558
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: Please?

1559
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1560
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: Jay?

1561
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: It's a live show here, Jason. I don't know if

1562
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: there's a there's a vander Oh here we go. Okay?

1563
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: Oh yes, this was no wonder why Jay was slow

1564
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: to put this out there.

1565
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: Lucas was on last week's show. Remember we tried to

1566
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 2: play the audio of the Zach Zach Guelf show or

1567
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: whatever that guy's the radio, and not only did the

1568
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: audio not play, thank you, thank you team show Malca,

1569
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 2: but they put you twice there in the windows, Luke.

1570
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're you're dead wrong.

1571
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: I didn't do this, what BC. I like highlighting the uh,

1572
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: not just my failures or occasional your failures, but the

1573
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: production failures light a little fire under their ASBC.

1574
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: Well they they also they failed to play the audio

1575
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: on Wednesday show of Corey Anderson as well, Luke. And

1576
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: not only that, you had a hot mic on the

1577
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: podcast version when you were like, you know, my brother

1578
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 2: actually congratulated me on the Joe Rogan Show.

1579
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, and everyone's doesn't care. It doesn't care. It's great.

1580
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: I think you plotted a plan to take down a

1581
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: president or something after that. But that's all good that Jay.

1582
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: We're done with that, right, Yeah, we're done.

1583
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 3: And none of that was me.

1584
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: Again, Jay doing the sorry miss Jackson here.

1585
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: No Jay doing the old Trump. It's I'm only the

1586
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: lead producer on this show and I run it from

1587
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: my Wizard of Oz studio. But it's everyone else's fault,

1588
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: right Jay. I don't name names here, I'm just saying.

1589
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: Look, Jay, it's not Jay's fault that.

1590
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: No.

1591
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: Escape didn't make it, Luke, It's it's the fault on Johnson.

1592
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: It's Ron John's clearly Ron Johnson.

1593
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: All right, all right, one day we was the guy.

1594
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: He was the lou Pearlman. Yeah, I mean, who's fault?

1595
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: Is it? All right?

1596
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 2: Luke? Tip to Tip time, this is Jay. Sorry to

1597
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,919
Speaker 2: cut you off here. I've got a tight schedule, tight schedule.

1598
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: Tip to Tip, please play the animation all right, Luke,

1599
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: this is where we uh we give them back to

1600
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 2: the fans, right, just for a second, just to see

1601
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: how it feels, and some advice and uh, Luke, here's

1602
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna say.

1603
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 3: Do you know what's one of the greatest shows of

1604
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: all time?

1605
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 2: Have you ever watched the British produced one hour documentary

1606
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 2: called Classic Albums? Luke began in the late nineties. They

1607
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: made them all the way through, like twenty ten. There's

1608
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: forty five episodes in all. I used to buy them

1609
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands on DVD. You can now

1610
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: catch all forty five episodes on Amazon Prime. Look, if

1611
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 2: you're an absolute nerd like I am, on Classic Albums,

1612
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 2: how they were recorded? This documentary series is so badass.

1613
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: Who's Next is a great episode. Jimmy Hendris six Hendrix

1614
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: is Electric Ladyland, plenty of classic rock ones. They even

1615
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 2: go as far as Metallica and jay Z for episodes

1616
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: and what they do look is, they bring in the

1617
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: original producer and engineer, They bring in the session players

1618
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: and background singers. They give you the story how each

1619
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: song was written. They play you some of the original mixes,

1620
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 2: and then they recreate and play them again. It is

1621
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 2: so nerd but awesome on some very fantastic albums throughout history,

1622
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 2: even like Elton John's Goodbye the Alobick Road episode is fantastic.

1623
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 2: If you're into that nerd stuff, there's plenty of them

1624
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: and Amazon Prime, which also has a crap ton of

1625
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 2: music documentaries beyond that.

1626
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: So that's my tip of the week. If you get

1627
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 3: down like.

1628
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 2: I do on All Things Are and Vinyl and Midlife Crisises.

1629
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: Thank you well. Unfortunately for today's tip to tip, I

1630
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: don't have any tip for you except I just wanted

1631
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: to take an opportunity because I said this on my

1632
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: life chat and I want to say it on a

1633
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: formal morning combat program man because and I will bury

1634
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: it here because there's no reason you can bring it

1635
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: up past this. But because of the appearance I had

1636
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: on Rogan's podcast this week, everyone and their brother has

1637
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: reached out to me and been unbelievably nice, including and

1638
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,560
Speaker 1: I should say especially are MK viewers here. There was

1639
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people who watch MK, and you could

1640
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: tell because they'd make a reference here about something you

1641
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: said BC or US or whatever about There was people

1642
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: in the comments being like under Rogan's video, being like, wow,

1643
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: Jay didn't fuck this up from a production standpoint, Like

1644
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: there was real hardcore died in the wool MK fans

1645
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: who've been nothing but friendly about the whole thing. If

1646
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: you've written me a note or a DMed me and

1647
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to get back to you,

1648
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 1: please forgive me. So I just want to say, on

1649
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: this tip to tip segment, thank you to all the

1650
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: MK fans. Thanks to everybody, but in particular, thank you

1651
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: to of the MK fans who watched, who shared it,

1652
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: who support this project. Even when I don't give a

1653
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: proper shout out to my co host and the program

1654
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: more generally, you guys still showed up and yeah, and

1655
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: you've supported everything that we've done here. I noticed it,

1656
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: so I wanted to take a moment on the show

1657
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: to say, big time thanks to all of you guys.

1658
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: You're the best, and trust me, it goes noticed and

1659
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: we appreciate it very much.

1660
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: Fantastic, Luke. And that was, by the way, just a

1661
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: double down, big moment, Luke.

1662
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: Big moment.

1663
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, cool man, We've had a lot of You've come

1664
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: the long way, not on Peter Yn. You've come the

1665
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: long way, Luke, to get here. And I'm gonna be honest.

1666
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 2: You have you in the last year, and this Rogan

1667
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: thing is the cherry on top. You may have lapped

1668
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: your competition, you may have passed your rivals in this game, Luke, Okay,

1669
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: it's not doesn't mean you'll stay there forever. We're all

1670
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 2: in this game.

1671
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 3: We're all fighting together.

1672
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: I certainly, by the way, in light of the ESPN

1673
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 2: layoffs in the last forty eight hours, really and thankful

1674
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: for what we have and wish the best, obviously to

1675
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: all my former colleagues out there. It's not an easy business,

1676
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: so you gotta savor the flavor when things are flying

1677
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: high and right now, Luke, congratulations, sir.

1678
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: Okay, things are going great for all of us here.

1679
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: And if I go on again next time, if there

1680
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: is a next time, I promise you see, I'll be

1681
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: better about saying your name and I'll call you big.

1682
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: You think I capell You think I need your clicks.

1683
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, all right, I got a jet out

1684
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 2: early here. I want to give a quick shout out

1685
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: to the Kids' Wish Network. One of my twin sons,

1686
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: twelve years old, Isaac, my man. He was born four

1687
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: and a half months premature. He weighed two pounds. He's

1688
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: battled severe brain bleeds, cerebral palsy. Yet he's an amazing

1689
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: kid who runs five k's, is on his cross country

1690
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 2: team as a star in adaptive sports, and he got

1691
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 2: entered into the Kids' Wish Network and his wish is

1692
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: being fulfilled right now. As soon as we turn this off,

1693
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: he's going to get a zoom call with his hero

1694
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 2: Olympic champion Usain Bolt from Jamaica. Wow, a family, there's

1695
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: a film crew here right now about to hit this hard.

1696
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 3: So I'm a proud dad.

1697
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 2: So that's that, and that's just Isaac.

1698
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: Just both your boys, but just Isaac absolutely.

1699
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay. Shout out to Boila as well. If she's back

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01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: from South America, Luke, shout out to her.

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let her know.

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01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you to Jay and the

1703
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 2: entire showtime Malca Crue in CBS Sports for paying the

1704
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: money for Luke to come join this full time.

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01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: Okay, we love giving it to you. Enjoy the fights

1706
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 3: this weekend.

1707
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: We're constantly setting up interviews, bonus content WW Hall of

1708
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: Famer Luke, Kevin Nash gonna be on this show next week.

1709
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: You're not gonna want to miss that brother. Okay.

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01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: Isn't he a big time lefty on Twitter?

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01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: Big time?

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 2: In fact, he was why I did the interview last night,

1713
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: full disclosure, and he was watching the election update and

1714
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 2: giving updates on the interview. It's it's yeah, he's a

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01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: big time you see.

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01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite pro wrestler, but if I did,

1717
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 1: it'd be a time between Batista and Kevin Nash.

1718
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 3: And Big Sex.

1719
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, the damn beer Coozy right here. It's my guy,

1720
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: right he's over my shoulder right here, So shout out

1721
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 2: to that. I got to run. Thank forere everyone follow

1722
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: us on the socials.

1723
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 3: Can we drop that in real fast? Thank you, Jason.

1724
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:08,839
Speaker 3: That's our situation.

1725
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: It's Morningcombat at gmail dot com for fan submissions, ideas, questions,

1726
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: all that great stuff. We have a documentary in the

1727
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: works on our return to the Jersey Swamps that you

1728
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: are not going to friggin want to miss.

1729
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 3: That's it for everyone else.

1730
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 2: May all your ex lovers be happy these days without

1731
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: you and your hose and your gains loyal mk we

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01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: out