WEBVTT - Are We the Drama? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.240 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:04.840 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.080 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.159 Welcome home, y'all. This is episode NT Laura about say 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:15.200 Native Pod. Okay, I try lead that in there. It 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.800 is episode Native Pod. Anyway, this is episode ninety five 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.760 of Native lamp Pid or we give you our breakdown 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.400 of all things politics and culture. It's a lot happening 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.920 in the culture. It's a lot happening in politics. We 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.000 are your hosts, Angela Rae, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillip. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:31.680 What are we talking about today, y'all. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:36.600 It's so much going on, with everything going on. I 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.360 do want to get into this Cardi B trial because 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.840 I think she taught a masterclass and how to handle 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.519 herself on the witness stand. So it's a lot of 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.680 seriousness going on. But I think this is a worthy topic. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.800 A thousand percent agree over here. Love love, love Cardi B. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.320 For real, for real, for real, tiff Angela, I want 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.560 to get into this conversation that we began last week 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.240 actually and we've been talking about for a minute, and 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.360 this is this assault by the Trump administration on American cities. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.440 Just want to preview what's coming up and how two 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.920 very important mayors have two very important places have a 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:12.800 disagreement about the. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.440 Approach absolutely, and I also want to talk about party 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.959 and the mayors. And I'm actually surprised, y'all, but i 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:24.280 really want to spend some time diving into what's going 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:28.240 on with the Epstein files. I've been made privious some 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.240 things that I think we should share with our audience 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.480 about why this is actually very important. So I hope 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.920 to lean into that. And if y'all have ideas about 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.760 what we should be talking about every week, you should 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.319 make sure that you rate, review, subscribe, and let us know. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.800 We take your videos, your questions, your comments. Y'all are 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.080 part of our family, so definitely send that in. Let's 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:47.680 get into it. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.800 Hello, Native Land Podcast. My name is Nicole Buchanan. I 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.440 am a professor and a psychologist, and I focus on 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.400 trauma and the ways that individuals and organizations can make 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.760 changes so that all of us can thrive. I just 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.720 watched your podcast about the Epstein Files, and I think 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.120 there's an issue that nobody's really talking about that just 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.880 might explain why out of all of Trump's scandals, this 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.920 finally seems to be the thing that is breaking MAGA, 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:22.560 and that is for many, child sexual abuse is deeply personal. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.280 Imagine a classroom of say twenty kids, we can expect 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.560 that at least two of the girls and one of 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.799 the boys will be sexually assaulted, molested, or raped by 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.040 their eighteenth birthday, and usually by somebody that they know 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:40.000 and trust. Over half of all adult women about a 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:44.519 third of adult men will experience sexual violence in their lifetimes. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.800 So while most of us can't wrap our head around 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.880 most of Trump's scandals, like accepting a luxury jet, the 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:57.520 abuse of children is deeply personal. People know that feeling 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.720 of wishing someone had saved them or had saved their 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.560 loved ones, which means Trump's violation this time is deeply, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:10.160 deeply personal. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.720 and thank you for taking a moment to hear mine. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:14.360 It's very powerful. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.800 I'm so grateful for that question, doctor Buchanan. I think 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.639 that she might have tapped into something. Love to hear 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.720 you Law's responses and then we can jump right into this. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:28.120 I disagree with her, and just in transparency, when we 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.200 before we do this show, the three of us as 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:32.880 co hosts get on a call and talk about what 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.360 we're going to talk about. And so when Angela said this, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.720 I was like, h I don't think so. I think 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.520 this is, you know, an issue that we're being My 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.760 thought is we're being led by the nose by the 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.280 people who believe in the Pizzagate scandal. That's not to 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.760 dismiss what's happening with Epstein, but I'm curious what evidence 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.600 is there that there is a fracture in Trump's support 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:58.000 because of this issue. Yes, people are complaining about it, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.680 Yes people are on the internet. But we've already known 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.960 Trump is a liar and that has not scared his 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.960 base away. We've already known he's inappropriate with women that 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.400 did not scare his base away. We know that he's 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.520 been inappropriate with children that did not scare his base away. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.680 We knew this in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen when 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.400 he would oversee the Miss Teen USA pageant. There was 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.080 countless evidence then of him going into the dressing room, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:25.680 making inappropriate comments to the young girls, then touching them then. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.400 And I just think this is all, you know, a 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:34.000 little bit of bullshit. You know, obviously the victims that 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.039 I know, Angela, you were moved by some really compelling 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:43.240 testimony that I definitely want to hear. But I think 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:48.960 if his base were truly concerned about sexual assault, there 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.640 have been countless times where they could have spoken up. 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:57.160 For example, one of the largest shelters of migrant children 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:06.240 in Texas, South Key Programs, was accused and found liable 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.280 for enabling the sexual abuse of children and minors. This 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.840 was a huge deal. They had worked with the federal 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.320 government for more than two decades. They were housing underage 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.440 migrants for the federal government, which was a financial boon 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:26.320 for contractors. There was money into basically grabbing these children 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.919 and keeping them in these shelters. It was one of 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.880 several providers that cashed in. Is the administration found shelter 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:38.200 for more than five thousand children forced into federal custody. 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.960 Where I asked, were all was all this outrage from 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.359 Trump supporters? Then it did not happen. Then I do 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.080 not anticipate that it will happen now, unless, of course 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.960 we're saying it only matters when white children are sexually abused. Furthermore, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.240 right now, these same people who are protesting Epstein, these 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.640 same people have said nothing about out the more than 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.800 thirty thousand children that are missing and lost in the 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.920 system that are migrant children who and that makes them 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:12.320 more susceptible to being trafficked right now the Trump administration. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.080 Just last month, a federal judge had to strike down 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.760 because he was trying to send six hundred unaccompanied minors, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.920 some as young as ten years old, back to their 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.960 home country of Guatemala, where there was no guarantee where 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.760 they would be cared for. This was on the heels 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:32.200 of him sending more children into the pipeline of being deported. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.599 And you know, this has been happening across both administrations 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.560 from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three. The Homeland Security 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.039 Inspector General found we don't even know the exact amount, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.400 but found that there were tens of thousands of missing children. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.240 So obviously we don't disagree on the seriousness of sexual abuse. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.320 My only point is, if we cared about sexual abuse, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.600 this is something that we could have been talking about 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.599 for years. If we cared about this administration being a 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.839 liar and not caring about children for years, this is 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.359 something So I've just not seen the evidence that his 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.640 base is going to abandon him over Epstein. But I'm 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.680 happy to be proven wrong. I hope I'm wrong on 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:11.800 this subject. We'll see. 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.960 Yeah, go ahead, Andrew. Yeah, I want to get into 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:16.520 to hear from some of these voices. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.600 But go for it real quick one, doctor McKennon. I 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.440 appreciate what you open our eyes to with the research, 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.800 and frankly, the very brilliant way in which you delivered it. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:31.040 You can very much hotel you work with students. But Tiff, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.200 I don't know that I disagree with you about whether 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.680 this is a permanent fracture in the Trump base and 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.600 whether it will be consequential enough for them to stay 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:45.040 home during the midterms or in any way defect in 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.320 serious numbers from him. I think on that point I 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.360 probably agree with you. But thinking back to the episode, 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:55.000 I remember just saying I don't know how this thing 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.640 is got such legs. I'm shocked that it's got the 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:02.360 kind of traction that it has. And I think doctor 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.720 Buchannan was probably in part responding to the fact that 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.120 given just the rank numbers of this of how many men, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.120 you know, boys girls who are now women and and 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:17.679 men have had sexual assault, you know, in their lives 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:21.280 in a very real personal way, and we could probably 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.160 between the three of us, imagine that a number of 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.320 those and I don't know what the percentage is probably 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.520 went unreported. Yeah, And so to now be at this 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.080 moment where it's being thrust in your face in such 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.959 an overt, no obvious way, you're aware of what what 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.320 what Epstein did and who is riding partners, were you 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.400 feel in some ways probably pretty you know, jaded, dejected, 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.679 but more than anything, in a personally, very personally with 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:54.560 these individuals, a real sense of betrayal and failure that 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.440 maybe you thought you were going to be heard or 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.559 stories like yours would be heard, And now all of 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.280 a sudden again it's being swept under the rug. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:01.840 I want to hear. 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.200 Yeah, And to that yes, to that point, there was 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.840 an NBC News like almost like a focus group style 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:14.160 conversation with Epstein's survivors and some of the victims family members. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.640 So I want us to first roll a clip from 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.480 one of the victims brothers, Oh. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.800 Sorry, she shouldn't be here. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.880 I am so honored to be here with. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:31.040 You guys. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.359 She she would be here. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.920 She'd be screaming, you know, And I think you know 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.600 they said it best. It's like if I could really say, 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.520 what you know, what we're looking for out of this 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.760 is justice, looking for accountability, and I think it's you know, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.400 we really have to start questioning what do we stand for? 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.479 So you know, it means the world. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.960 To be here with you, all of you, and you know, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.640 I think this is only the beginning of what's really 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.559 to come because showing a force like this, they have 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:06.480 to listen now. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.360 And I want to also go to one of the 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.800 survivors herself, who spoke to the impact of what happened 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.760 to her under the care or the watch rather of 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:18.559 Julie Epstein. 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:24.480 Going through stuff like this, especially as an adult, it 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.840 brings up a lot of mental health issues and I 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:33.320 thought of hurting myself and not now, but you know, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.400 over the last six or so years, just going through 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:41.160 all this, and it's hard. And I know that if 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.559 I have those thoughts and Virginia has those thoughts and 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.880 where victims, you know, how many more of us do 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:47.760 we have to lose? 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.160 Virginia, who was referenced here, took her own life after 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.040 suffering under the weight of this for many many years. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:59.280 Wendy referenced six years but they have been dealing with 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.120 this since they were fourteen years old. One of the 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.760 things that you hear from a survivor who's going to 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.199 play now is why they may need to take justice 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.920 into their own hands. Show of hands. 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.160 Did any of you hear from the Justice Department before 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.200 they released that memo, that two page memo earlier this summer? 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:18.040 No hands. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.280 Were any of you told that Todd Blanche would be 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.280 speaking with Gillay Maxwell prior to that interview over the 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.880 course of two days. No, No, were any of you 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:31.080 told about the prison transfer that doing that. No where 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.280 any of you. Do any of you feel that the 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.640 DJ has communicated with you enough this year? 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:36.560 No? 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:41.120 Have any of you had any communication with the DJ. No, 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.040 nobody in this room has heard at all from the 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:43.959 Department of Justice. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:44.520 No. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.640 No, is that surprising to you? 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:52.199 No, No, it should be. It should Yeah, it should 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:56.000 be to think it's their job. This is the center 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.720 of this whole entire case. They are the center. Why 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:05.440 would you, Glenn Maxwell, Let's get this right before the 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:06.520 narrative changes. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.280 And I believe that so strongly that that is the 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.320 intent of her. She's trying to rewrite history. And it 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.920 was almost like she was given that platform to do that, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:23.920 and that is not acceptable on any terms. She wasn't 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:28.440 just this co conspirator and that was her boyfriend. She 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:33.200 was actively participant. She prayed upon these young girls, and 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.120 she used her womanhood to do it. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.280 Yes, Okay, Virginia said it. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:44.080 She was vicious, she was a monster. She doesn't deserve 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.400 any type of platform. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.720 I wanted to play those clips because I think it 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.040 is important one for me. I think that when you 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.160 hear Epstein's name over and over and over again, you 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.360 get to a point where you almost just harden your heart. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.360 To the point of the question we received from doctor Buchanan, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.720 there are a number of people that suffer in silence 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.240 around child sexual abuse because they are shamed, They feel 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.000 like they did something wrong. Many of the victims that 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.280 I talked to, some in my own family, feel like 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.640 it would just be easier to pretend like it disappears, 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.800 something that also comes up in that segment. But one 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.079 place where they may be able to get justice is 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.439 in the halls of Congress because they are not taking 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.160 no for an answer. They are pushing. And we saw 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.160 some of this after a briefing that was held earlier 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:31.760 this week. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:33.800 But I want to be clear. 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.160 What we heard today is a cover up, and it 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.319 is a cover up of epic proportions, A cover up 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:48.120 involving the United States Government, the justice system, rich and 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:54.720 powerful individuals, a cover up potentially involving foreign countries and 0:13:54.800 --> 0:14:01.040 foreign actors. And yes, here today in this House, as 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.880 our colleagues are up in the House Chamber and the 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:08.400 Rules Committee, a cover up by the Republicans in this chamber, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.439 because as you will find out in the coming days 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.160 and weeks, this goes all the way to the top. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.560 So let's be clear about that. There has been a 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:26.800 systemic failure of the justice system for decades, a systemic 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.320 failure to hold people who are powerful and have money 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:33.560 to account, and that has allowed not just hundreds, but 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.080 potentially thousands of women not only in the United States 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.440 but around the world to be bought, sold, and trafficked 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.480 for sex, not only by Jeffrey Epstein, but by his 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:49.160 associates and his rich and powerful friends. And as these 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.200 stories come forward, whether there are stories that have already 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.560 been told, their stories in those FBI files that have 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.480 not been released by the Department of Justice, in which 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.760 they must release because of the subpoena or whether they 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.680 are stories of victims that have not yet come forward, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.000 we will hold you all accountable. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.680 And I think the other thing that's interesting here, y'all 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.560 tip I know you getting up and sitting down. You 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:19.480 guess they said for two more clips. There is one 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.240 that I think that we should witness from another person 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.000 on another side of the aisle. This is one that 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.600 surprised me a little bit. So if we can play 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:39.120 Nancy Mace. So Nancy Mace, you see her walking down 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.160 the hallway. She's actually in tears, and she responds to 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:46.120 this clip, and she says on Twitter yesterday or earlier 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.880 this week, since it's already being reported. Yes, I left 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:53.400 the oversight briefing with Epstein victims early as a recent survivor, 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.240 not two years in. I had a very difficult time 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:02.760 listening to their stories full blown panic attack, sweating, hyperventilating, shaking, 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:07.080 I can't breathe. And I definitely think we should hear 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.000 from another member of Congress who's a dear sister to 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.320 this show on what she thinks looks like the next 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.680 steps must be today's roundtable. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:14.960 Again. 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.560 It was necessary, it was long overdue, and it was 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.960 very powerful, and it is why I continue to call 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:26.040 for a congressional hearing, because their stories need to be 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.080 a part of a congressional record, and the entire public 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:34.400 needs to understand just how systemic and how far, how 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.360 far and wide, and how deep this institutional betrayal goes. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.040 For people that would wonder how high are the stakes here? 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.960 This is a matter of life and death because Virginia 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:48.200 Jeffrey took her life after decades of failure, and they 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.600 are victims that can no longer come up, come forward 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.800 because they're in a fetal position, so broken by the 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.040 way of what they've been carrying, shame that they've been 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.200 caring when it is not their shame to carry. So 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:06.040 Virginia Jeffrey took her life because of the institutional consecutive 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.000 failures and betrayals of our government. So this is a 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:11.920 matter of life. 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.399 And death, a matter of life and death. So I 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.600 just wanted you all to sit with that, to see it. 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.359 I agree with Tiff that I don't know that it 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.320 is a significant fracture in the magabase. But what I 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.639 do know is that there are people at home on 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.200 both sides of the aisle and everywhere in between who 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:34.720 have either been a party to sexual assault, have experienced 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.560 what it's like to be violated and to have to 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.960 hold that as if it is your own baggage to hold. 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.520 And I just think that this is one of those 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.640 moments that can if they are able to properly break through, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.680 if they are able to have these folks dj respond 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.600 to the subpoena the way that they should when Congress 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.760 issues a subpoena, that maybe they may get a little 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.280 bit of justice. These folks were pleading for justice on 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.719 NBC News as we saw, and I think that the 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.200 only way that they were able to get any type 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:14.040 of just recourse is by having advocates like the ones 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.760 we saw in Congress fighting to ensure that maybe they 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.359 don't get their day in court, but at least they 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.280 get their day in the halls of Congress with the hearing. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:28.520 Well, just for contexts earlier here, Nancy Mace took to 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.240 the house floor and accused her ex fiance and ex boyfriends, 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:38.840 and she detailed her experience with sexual assault and sexual abuse. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:43.640 So I anticipated that this would be a painful exchange 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:49.479 for her, and I do not dismiss her experience at all, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.959 but realistically Nancy Mace is a Trump Siica fan and 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.600 votes with him more than ninety percent of the time. Again, 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.639 I don't know that this would highlight need sort of 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:05.280 fracture Trump's DJA, we already know cannot be trusted. Pam 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:09.360 Bondi told Donald Trump that his name was in the 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.960 Epstein files multiple times. Donald Trump just decided I don't 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:15.920 like that story, So I'm just gonna say that conversation 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.000 never happened. But that's according to reporting from the Wall 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:24.280 Street Journal. He lies routinely, and so again, I think 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.360 my heart goes out to any victims of sexual abuse, 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.439 but I just knowe how so often we will skip 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:37.560 past thirty two thousand missing children or actual documented sexual 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:41.840 abuse of children from Southwest Key programs. And again, this 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.280 is well documented. It was reported in the New York 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:48.040 Times several times, and I think there is this undercurrent 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.800 of one This was so salacious because Republicans thought the 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.679 Clintons were attached to this, and this is how this 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.800 became a big deal, and then it resurfaced because the 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:03.520 Echo Chambers folks is solely on Epstein. When three hundred 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:06.399 thousand plus black women lost their jobs, it was not 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.399 a breaking news banner for weeks at a time, as 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.199 people are being kidnapped off the street, the context is 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:20.000 presented as both sides. As the unemployment rate disproportionately impacts 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:24.240 black men as well, that's not a breaking news banner. 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:28.520 As our food systems, our democratic core principles are are eroding, 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.560 that's not the breaking news banner. So the media has 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:35.640 really spoon fed the Epstein case, and I just feel 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:37.959 like it deserves equals. If we're going to talk about it, 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.479 then let's talk about the role of separating families and 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:45.119 how that fed children into being trafficked. Let's care about 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.000 all the kids who are going through sexual abuse. And 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.600 I just haven't seen that, and I certainly haven't seen 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.280 any evidence that the Epstein thing is going to be 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.119 the thing to bring down MAGA. So I don't mean 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.480 to be dismissive, but I do hear myself, and I 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.520 do feel like a cynic in this case. I definitely 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.000 have all the empathy, and I think justice should be 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.760 pursued on behalf of the victims, for sure, no doubt 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:10.120 about that. But I just look at the hypocrisy across 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:14.399 the landscape, and I think a false hope that people 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.480 think oh, this is it, this is going to be 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.880 the thing, and I just I don't think it will. 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:21.720 I don't. And I also don't think a lot of 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:26.080 these people care about Latino children who are being sexually 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.240 abused as we speak. Take to the streets for that 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.199 protest that Congresswoman Nancy Mays, who voted for Trump in 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:36.639 this policy, shed some tears for that, and then I 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.400 think that would be a more authentic conversation. 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.200 Yeah, and Andrew, I know you have something to say. 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.199 I just want to say, for the record, for the 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.640 folks listening at home, we definitely don't con condone any 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:53.440 sexually sexual assault or sexual violence, and for all survivors 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.920 of these traumatic experiences, our hearts go out to you. 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.199 I am grateful that on this show we can talk 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.880 about the folks who are being separated from their families 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.520 and all of that, but in this particular container, which 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.920 is an Epstein Files container, that we can also urge 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.760 for Congress to do its work, to not go on 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.879 recess early, to avoid doing its work, and when you 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.240 return the fact that there are members like Aana Presley, 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.000 like Melanie Stansbury, and even in this case, yes, Nancy Mace, 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.800 who are not going to let it fall by the wayside. 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:27.440 I think it is very, very important that we're able 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:29.640 to separate those things. We got a couple of other 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.000 issues to get to today that are different. It's not 0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.520 oppression Olympics. We have to make sure that we hold 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.480 space for all of these things, because everyone is going 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.560 through it in some real ways. And yes, these young 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.760 women who were suffering at the hands of this a 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.399 few were on that stage, but there are hundreds of 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.200 these women. They deserve to be heard and they deserve 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:51.320 justice as well. Andrea, mean to jump in. 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.960 Before you after all you said, I would just say, 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:59.879 and it's okay to prioritize those traumatic experiences in your 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:04.920 lives when it comes to making political decisions as well. 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.320 I think a lot of times, because of the weight 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.480 of the shame that you carry, you push so much 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:12.440 of this stuff down. I mean, I think about, you know, 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:17.080 when I was ready to admit complicity to everything under 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.359 the sun just to avoid feeling like I was ever 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:24.399 a victim of something. And so you convince yourself that 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.000 you don't want to be in a helpless place, and 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.680 sometimes that convincing can take so much of a toll 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.840 that that folks have you know, results resorted to to 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.919 take in their lives. I think, hopefully if this is 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:40.439 a moment, maybe it is a moment to get some 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.600 real change along the lines of this issue and breakthrough 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.800 this not you know this, this completely partisan, you know maga, 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.879 you know craziness, to get some real stuff done. If 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.840 if that's where it leads to, then I think that 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:59.800 would be a form of redemption, a form of accountability 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.560 for those who are survivors. But if it continues to 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:06.200 be played like a political football, then I fear that 0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.240 the only thing that's at the end of that tunnel 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:13.480 is more hurt, more pain, more excuses, and frankly, more 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.720 very powerful men and powerful people being able to have 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.920 their way any kind of way with anybody, anytime, anywhere, 0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:25.200 and be able to avoid accountability for it. 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:32.560 So with that, we know that absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.240 with that, speaking of what's happening right now, we also 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.560 know that there is a lot happening where Tip resides 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.280 in the District of Columbia. We're going to get into 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.760 what is happening with this DC takeover and Mario Bowser's 0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:57.120 one eighty from last week. I want to get into 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:01.840 what Mariel Bowser had to say say about Trump's occupation 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.639 just last week. Our north star. 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:12.400 Is protecting home rule in the district's autonomy in all things, 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:17.760 especially during this last eight months where it has been 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:22.360 clear that our autonomy has kind of been in the crosshairs. 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:23.440 That's our north star. 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:28.280 Since the beginning of this federal surge of officers, it 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:33.679 has always been my focus on We didn't ask for 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:39.160 any federal officers. We're driving crime down, but while they're here, 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:46.159 how can we most strategically use them to accelerate the 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.719 work that MPD has done. So that's our point. The 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.960 next point is how do we exit from this emergency 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:56.160 that the President declared. We know what the law says. 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.879 He can declare it for just about anything. It runs 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.240 thirty days unless on the Congress stops it. I thought 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.639 I made it very clear. What has not worked during 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:14.440 this period of time is ice terrorizing communities, especially with masks, 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.920 and especially not having enough information about where people are. 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.240 I've said that repeatedly. 0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:25.200 I'll say it again. What hasn't worked, in my opinion, 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.600 hasn't been efficient and it's not on mission. It's National 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.000 Guard troops, especially from other states. 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.400 So imagine our surprise when this again, this was last week. 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:41.159 But imagine our surprise when on September second, there was 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:45.040 an order created the creation of the Safe and Beautiful 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.480 Emergency Operations Center. This is guidance from the Office of 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.960 the Mayor. The Mayor's order is two zero twenty five 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:56.280 or twenty twenty five dash zero nine zero, and she 0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.840 in this statement or in this order says, in section two, 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:05.639 there is established the Safe and Beautiful Emergency Operations Center, 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.679 whereby they will be coordinating with United States Commercial Service, 0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.960 the FBI, the United States Park Police, the DEEA, the 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:17.639 Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the United States 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.840 Capitol Police, and the Secret Service. And let me tell you, 0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:23.840 when you always know you found yourself on the wrong 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:28.119 side of the truth. When Caroline Levitt tweets and says 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:32.560 the Trump administration is I'm getting there. The Trump administration 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:37.160 is grateful to continue partnering with Mayor Bowser to make 0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.760 DC the safest city in the country. The mayor's fellow 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.480 Democrats should take note. Working with President Trump means safer 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.240 communities and less crime. No one in their right mind 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.600 could seriously oppose that, and yet Caroline, no one in 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.240 their right mind could agree with you. Friend. So now 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.760 I want to turn to and young activist who was 0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.639 recently detained under this craziness. Yes, her name is a Feenie. 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.720 She's involved with Free DC and she had this to 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.280 say about MARYO. Bowser's pivot. 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:13.080 This occupation has emboldened an already over zealous police presence 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:18.280 to increase their brutality and their subjugation against district residents. 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.119 And no matter what the mayor says, the city of 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.800 DC is not grateful for the influx of the illegal 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:32.520 stops and purchase. The city of DC is not grateful, 0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.520 not thankful for the militarization of an unaccountable police force 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.960 or are performer patrols by Trump. 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:45.680 And his administration. So I just think it's so important 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.080 in this moment for us to understand what it looks 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.640 like to be on the right side of history and 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.000 on the wrong side of history. Right now, sadly, I 0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.800 believe the black woman mayor of Washington, DC is on 0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.120 the wrong side of history. And I don't know who 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.000 she thinks, what she thinks she's doing with the strategy 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.600 is here. We talk often about no permanent friends no 0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:11.400 permanent enemies, just permanent interests. Maybe she thinks this is 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.240 a permanent interest things, but if she talks to her residents, 0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.280 I don't think that a lot of people see this 0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.080 in their interests. I love to hear what y'all think. 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:18.800 I have a question. 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:20.080 I can't think him. 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.440 I will probably you may be about to answer it. 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.880 But because you were a mayor, I mean, DC is 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.120 a little different because it's the home of the federal 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:33.600 government and we don't have the autonomy that Dallahassee did. 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:38.160 But I'm just curious, because you were a mayor, do 0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.480 you think that she handled this correctly? And if you 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.640 were the mayor of Washington, d C. How might you 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:43.280 have handled this? 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.560 I appreciate that the question there are some differences. Although 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:51.880 we are both capital cities. Tallahassee, Florida is home to 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.160 the center seat of government for the state of Florida, 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:59.920 and at least for all of my adulthood, my apoloitic 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.680 have been opposite of that of the of the government 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:07.840 and charge here in Florida. Yet, and still I don't 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.280 know how. I keep thinking, y'all. You know me, I'm 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.640 going to try to look at the glass half full. 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.560 If I possibly can on her behalf, which is to say, 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.040 maybe she's doing some jiu jitsu right, like taking the 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.920 energy that he's putting towards her and like reversing that 0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:25.080 thing and playing with his head in some way, and 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.400 that behind the scenes there is some masterful plan going 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.880 on where she is being able to meet with members 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:35.800 of Congress who have say so over her district, the 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.880 District of Columbia, and is pocketing a hell of a 0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.760 lot of cash to then be reinvested in the city 0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.120 the District of Columbia and the types of programs that 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:50.840 really do go toward reducing crime over the long haul. 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.800 What what we learned from from from the Mayor of 0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.880 Chicago when he was giving national interviews and still is 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.440 of course, is that he's I don't just throw money 0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.600 at me, throw the right kind of money, throw the 0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.760 right kind of resources, don't pull numbers out of the air. 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.440 Let's deal with the facts that we have and then 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.560 the data that then suggests that if we put the 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:16.960 money here, it'll take us a lot further. The Mayor 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:22.200 of DC has me very much flamoxed and confused. I 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.760 don't know how as a sitting mayor one. You take 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:30.000 it as a helpmate when the federal government essentially comes 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.880 in and saying says, you're doing a terrible job. In fact, 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.320 it's so terrible that we have to access and tap 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.640 into a very little known and little used law to 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.600 come in and do the job that you have failed 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:45.840 to do. I believe Mayor Bowser is what a three 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:50.000 term mayor maybe certainly two terms, maybe on a fourth, 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.920 I'm not real sure. But all I'm saying is is 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.960 with that much tenure under your belt, municipal government, with 0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:03.480 the responsibility of seeing to the safety of your citizens, 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.240 I take it as a real insult. Okay, fine, Now 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.760 I'm over ego, and I'm dealing with the fact that 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.040 any surge that they could possibly produce for you is 0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.240 one that is not going that you can hold, is 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.160 not one that you can hold over the long term. 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.440 And so what happens is is after thirty days and 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.880 maybe another thirty day extension and maybe a few more 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.880 after that, the problem then comes back to you and 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.640 what do you think you're gonna get Because the material 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.040 conditions on the ground of homelessness and poverty and mental 0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.040 health and people working a job that they can get 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.080 paid to keep a roof over their head and food 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:39.040 on the table close on their backs. Those things are 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.320 still lacking. And on top of that, you got three 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.960 hundred plus black women out of work, a lot of 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.320 them based in Washington, d C. 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.800 One hundred thousand, three hundred. 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.520 I'm sorry, I hope I said three hundred thousand, and 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.600 if I didn't, three hundred thousand plus and the number 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.920 is growing. So the conditions, again, material conditions on the 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:59.120 ground are going to be abhorrent, and then it will 0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.760 appear again that you are incapable of doing your job. 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.720 And what makes me really frustrated about the way on 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:06.880 which this is now being handled by the mayor is 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.320 that it gives them the wrong message and it sends 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.600 the wrong policy prescript to these folks that you can 0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.800 just boost us for a couple of months with a 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.120 bunch of military and so we look like a police state, 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.840 drive our numbers down, and then that's going to be 0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.240 considered success, when in truth, on the other side of 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.720 that is those numbers are going up, and I guarantee 0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.400 you they will be much higher than they were before 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.160 the government ever entered the federal government ever entered that territory. 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:36.920 Yeah, yeah, so I have more questions than I do 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:42.600 thoughts here, Andrew. Again, what you just laid out, Donald 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.040 Trump is already saying, and we've been telling our viewers 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.040 this is coming soon to a city near you. So 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:52.760 this was ground zero. How our leaders responded can cast 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:57.239 a wide netive influence across the country. And again, I 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.520 do just want to punctuate that DC is in a 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:05.160 unique position because it is essentially controlled by Congress. I 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:09.080 wonder what piece of advice, Andrew, that you would give 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:15.560 to the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Baltimore, 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:21.319 Brandon Scott, the mayor of Oakland, former Congressman Barbara Lee. 0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.440 So that's my first question for you, And then my 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.279 question for Angela, because of your years of experience on 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:31.719 Capitol Hill, what if anything, can and should the Democratic 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:36.080 leadership be doing to protect these predominantly on black cities, 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.640 specifically Washington, d C. Since they live here as well. 0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.120 So however, y'all want to appreciate it, Teff, and I'll 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.080 go real quick Angela and pass it under you. And 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.800 that is one I understand the uniqueness of the position 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.800 of Washington, d C. The District of Columbia, which should 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.920 be a state. Understand that you've got to work with 0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:56.759 Republicans or whoever is in charge. However, if you scared, 0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.640 say you scared, and if you scared, you should not 0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:03.000 be the mayor of Washington, d C. There are plenty 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.600 of people who we have to work collaboratively and across 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:10.400 the aisle. But when that becomes the outright lack of 0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:13.479 representation for the people who are feeling terrorized, the ones 0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.919 that elect you directly to represent them, then that that's 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.440 where the rub is for me, that there ain't anybody 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.080 out there that I have to work with so much 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.680 so that I then take the priorities of those individuals 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.560 or that institution over the priorities of the people who 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.960 elected me duly to service their representative voice, their protector, 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.120 their keeper, their father of the city or mother of 0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:37.360 the city for the time in which. 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:37.560 You have it. 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.439 That's where it is for me. It starts and ends 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.080 right there. You're in service to them, not the other 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.520 way around. And then as mayors, I would say one, 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.239 I think the mayor of Chicago has been doing an 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.120 incredible job and trying to forecast getting out there before 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.279 Trump and his people ever are able to He's they've 0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.600 they've been basically laying out, Look, this is what they're 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.440 gonna do. Let me tell you why it is that 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.600 they're coming here, And let me tell you what instructions 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:08.640 I'm giving to law enforcement around non cooperation under such circumstances. 0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.880 These are going to be resources available to you, so 0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.040 on and so forth. I would say Mayor Karen Bass, 0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:15.680 who really was at the tip of this spear, also 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:17.480 had to act in really real time. And what did 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.239 they do. They they they activated neighborhood networks to keep 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:26.080 communities safe, alarm systems that were intended to inform as 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:27.960 many people as you can. Look, they're here, they're on 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.640 this block, avoid it, do this, do that. And by 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.520 the way, they did just win the court battle that 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.960 that the president overstepped his boundaries and sending military troops 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:39.080 there and the way in which he did. And I 0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.080 think that that's the same ruling that will be held 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:43.480 when he goes to Chicago. Should that should should that 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.319 to that instance occur. But I think they are doing well. 0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.759 I would just say, know the law and know what 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:54.400 your limitations as well as your where you where your 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.880 opportunities may exist to one keep your people protected, but 0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.320 two to put the government back on his heels. Because 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.560 I guarantee you the way in which the mayor and 0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:06.040 the governor of Illinois and Chicago and the county executive 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.600 have been handling this, I believe you. I believe that 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:12.640 they have probably changed the government's plans probably multiple times 0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.760 since their announcement that they were going into Chicago, around 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.359 the timing, the place, the choosing of when they would 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:18.600 do so. 0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:24.480 I appreciate what you're saying, Andrew and Tif. I also 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.279 thank you for the question. I think that what I 0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:31.120 would say, given the fact that I had the great 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.960 opportunity to work for the conscience of the Congress that's 0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.279 what we call the Congressional Black Caucus, is that they've 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:40.760 always been very clear about their line in the sand. 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:45.719 Sometimes it takes negotiation to get on the same page. 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:50.040 But we are in a moment where you cannot cooperate 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.680 with fascism. You have to know in your mind what 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:57.640 fascism looks like, be clear about defining it, and then 0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.680 saying here's what my response to fascism will be, here's 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.560 my alternative to what fascism is. You cannot say, well, 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.040 I guess I gotta be quiet because we show want 0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.200 this stadium moved here. Well, well, I guess I gotta 0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:13.640 be quiet because we show got this budget to pass. 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:18.279 The budget is not going to serve your constituents or 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:22.120 your residence in DC if they are locked up because 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.520 they decided that somebody didn't pay their metro fare, or 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.560 they decided that somebody was standing around too long loitering, 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.359 or they decided that because you are black with locks, 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.120 you are inherently violent and criminal. And so there has 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.760 to be a very very clear line in the sand. 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.800 And I just don't see that. And I'm actually really 0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.839 really sad because I was looking forward to someone who 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:49.120 calls herself the mentee of Mary and Barry to stand 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.600 up the way we would expect Mary and Barry to 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.280 stand up. I guarantee you that this is not Marion 0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.640 Barry's response. I guarantee you that he would find courage 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.279 where it's hard. I guarantee you that he would not 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.319 sink into cowardice. And I'm so sad to say, I 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.480 am devastated to say that that is what Mario Bowser 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.360 is doing. Now she can go on air and say, 0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.480 y'all don't really understand what this executive order does. Y'all 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.719 aren't clear about what I'm saying here. You know, I 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.520 have to comply with this man because technically they oversee me. 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:27.280 But I will tell you this sure. Even in slavery, 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.560 there was a tactic to comply with an overseer, but 0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.640 there was always a red line in the sand. And 0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:36.799 she better find hers quick because right now we are 0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:40.160 on sinking sand and Tiff the way that you shed 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:43.959 tears last week on the podcast, there are so many 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.960 people who are experiencing that same heartache, that same trauma, 0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.880 that same confusion about where we go from here, And 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.840 if Mariel Bowser is not going to protect the people 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.840 of DC, she is making it so much harder for 0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:59.640 all of those other mayors. I am over the excuse 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.440 about jurisdiction. This is not a jurisdictional fight. This is 0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:07.000 a fight for the soul of this country and is 0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.160 a fight against fascism. And if she don't know what 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.239 time it is, looks like so. 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:17.480 That's part of my challenge here, because one to bear 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:23.960 witness to unmarked cars with men out of uniform rolling 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.040 out the car and watching people scatter like this has 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:31.520 taking place behind my building, around my building, to see 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.279 like there are areas, you know, I may have talked 0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:36.279 about this, I can't remember, but it's like old people 0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.080 just hanging out on the corner, you know, in the 0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.360 public housing area that's right next to my building, and 0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.960 people will just sit out there all day long, like 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:47.280 in their sixties, this longtime residence of DC, who lived 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.840 in this area, long before it was cool to live here, Okay, 0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.160 long before it became the hot spot, long before it 0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.200 became a hot spot for gentrifiers. There's like a little 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.080 old dude in a wheelchair with a cute little pitfull 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.000 who sells Lucy's, you know, and all those people are gone. 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:09.840 It's disrupting community. And to bear witness to that happening 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.879 in real time, where you see people getting snatched, where 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.160 you see people like it's just changing the culture of 0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:20.400 DC is really heartbreaking. And I wonder for the mayor 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.320 of where her moral code is, because this is the 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.080 question that I have for anybody who is confronting situations 0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.040 like this one. We have no evidence of capitulating to 0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:35.879 Donald Trump gaining you anything. It does not gain you, right, 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:40.279 So even her doing this, even her making these remarks, 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.160 this doesn't mean that next week kills us decide I 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.239 want to take over DC. We're removing the mayor. You know, 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.719 all these rules and processes are pixie deaths. So we're 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.399 done with her. So a pardon me feels like has 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.640 she gone in that microphone and told Donald Trump he 0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.359 could kiss her natural black ass and this is what 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.839 we're gonna do in DC. The end rest result may 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.200 have been the same. So if the end result is 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:04.960 typically going to be the same as it normally is 0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.520 with Donald Trump, then why not be a revolution? Why 0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.160 not stand up and say no, I will hold the line. 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.720 You may take my position of power, but you will 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:19.440 not take my power as a black woman in this moment. 0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.680 So it's disappointing, and I hope people seeing this because 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.760 one of the remarks that the young lady made was congratulations, 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:30.160 Mayor Bouser. You're a fascist too. So for me, I 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:36.000 would rather sacrifice my career on the altar of righteous 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:40.480 indignation around what's happening before I would cling to it 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:46.080 in favor of appeasing this white supremacist who is enacting 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.240 policies that we as black people know all too well 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:54.120 from enslavement from slave catchers, from post reconstruction, from Jim 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:58.239 Crow from the eighties and nineties, to mandatory minimums, in 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.799 all the ways that we've always been in sneel in 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.800 systems like this. So it's disappointing and I am fighting 0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:10.640 the depression that comes from that, from seeing people lay 0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:15.560 down and roll over. I don't have that. I don't 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.799 have that spirit in me. I don't think I ever will. 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:18.920 But it's sad. 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.960 You were made of things, yeah. 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.160 And I am so pleased to be with two people 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:26.399 who don't have that spirit either. 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.640 But you know what to I was just gonna say, 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.880 it's also because because you know, you don't always have 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.280 to be made of sterner things, Sometimes that sterner things 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.399 just flow through you because somebody has done it before you. Yeah, right, 0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.319 I remember just thinking in so many instances, like you 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.319 know what, others have survived this, Others have pushed through this, 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:47.960 others have come to the other side, and now I 0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.440 can see a little bit more than maybe what they 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.160 could at the time. But with everything you said, I 0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.520 want to dittle it and just also at at the 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:57.759 end where you were going, which is this is the 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:01.160 last thing the people of DC need at this moment 0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.840 is to feel like they are being left again to 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:09.319 Trump and his minion's own devices, with no protection at 0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:11.879 their back, yeh, at their front, at their side. They're 0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.839 looking and they can't find it in their government. And 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.800 that's a goddamn shame for a place that voted overwhelmingly 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.720 for Joe Biden, and better than that, for a community 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.080 of people who get there, who get stepped on every 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.799 single day as the community. And now they want to 0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.680 add one more name to the list of enemies of 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.879 who they are there, who they are, where they come from, 0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:37.560 where they live, the place that they love, and that's 0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.319 the mayor of that city. And that's a damn shame. 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:44.920 I I'm sorry, I'll be really clear. Yeah some you know, 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.120 y'all know I'm staying in the comments. So I look 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.040 at the comments on YouTube especially, and sometimes I have 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:51.719 to go back and think, like, well, what do they say? 0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:55.240 And a lot of people were saying, oh, you know, Andrew, 0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.440 you were preaching today, and Andrew. We love you, and Andrew, 0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.439 we still need you in Florida. Andrew, please run again. 0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:01.960 You know you are. Please get that. And when I 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:03.359 sit here and look at this and I'm just looking 0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.680 at y'all on my screen sadly because we're not in person. 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.839 We all here doing this podcast like it's COVID. But 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:12.960 I'm sitting here looking at y'all. 0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:14.480 Way, our bank account is. 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:17.080 Got COVID. 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.919 But I think I. 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:28.760 Know like they when you were running after the Santa's, 0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.960 the stupid or whatever seized control of Florida, Like at 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:36.839 every single point, they were throwing everything at you, and 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:41.239 never once, never once did you say, Okay, I'm gonna 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.239 come out and make a statement that the Santa's is 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.280 the best person ever. I'm gonna come out and indoors 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:47.759 trump you were. It may have been hard for you, 0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:49.920 but you held your ground. You were like, I'm gonna 0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.520 fight because you too would rather fight to the death 0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:57.040 before you laid down and let these people destroy you. 0:45:57.320 --> 0:46:00.600 And as a result, the people of Florida are still 0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.359 ten toes down. All of every comment all and I 0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:08.280 read them, every comment all the time is in staunch 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.719 support of something you said, something you did, like the 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:15.000 people believe you, and that kind of trust means something 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.120 to you. If you were to ever coupitulate, you would 0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:18.960 lose that and I think all of us have that 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.759 you couldn't pay me if somebody said, oh, did y'all 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:25.200 see Angela Rye, She she is maden. Now, you couldn't 0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:29.120 pay me to believe it. I'm like, that's a ain't right. 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.760 So when I'm in the trenches with people like y'all, 0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.600 it makes me look at people who ain't got that 0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:35.120 kind of grit sideways. 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:36.720 That's real. 0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:42.080 Hello, because I'm pregnant and there's thief about to beat 0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:45.399 my ass. If you have been under a rock, then 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:46.879 you don't know what I'm talking about. But if you've 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.560 been glusing the screens like the rest of us, we're 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.279 getting into that on the other side of this break. 0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:50.920 Stay tuned. 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.480 Well, I'm gonna tell y'all in the land of the 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.400 upside down and sadly, I'm gonna confess this now and 0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:14.399 backwards shirts, there are some people who are standing ten 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:20.480 toes down Tiff and twelve of them unanimously the ten 0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:24.600 toes down. In the Cardi b trial this week, she 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:28.719 was accused of assault and battery uh and of allegedly 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:32.000 scratching a security guard in the face and spitting on her, 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.600 and the jury reached this verdict. 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:36.000 They go through. 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.560 Each one each of the jerks unanimous. 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.799 Yeah, all right, so Cardi b there can breathe a 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.920 sigh of relief, complete and total victory. The jury finding unanimously. 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.040 They didn't have to find it unanimously. Only nine out 0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:53.320 of twelve needed in a civil trial on all four counts, 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:57.160 the assault count, the extreme emotional distress count, negligence, and 0:47:57.200 --> 0:48:00.680 also on the issue of punitive damages finding favor of 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:01.360 Cardi Bige. 0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.239 And I also think it's important for people to hear 0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.440 just a little bit of the testimony from the alleged victim. 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.640 When you were at the building and. 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.120 Party B exited to elevate on February twenty. 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:17.800 Four, eighteen. 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:23.399 What these What were the words that she used that 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.040 were so hurtful. 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:32.400 She used a lot of words, and again, excuse my language, 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:38.040 but she was like, bitch, that's why I'm gonna beat 0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.320 your I'm gonna get you fired. 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:46.400 That's why you do security. 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:48.920 Aha, that's why you do security. 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:49.800 Ah. 0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:51.799 She was sticking her tongue out, she was flailing her 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:53.799 arms up and down, she was jumping up and down, 0:48:56.080 --> 0:49:03.239 body shaming me. I mean, racial slurs. 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:03.359 Just a lot. 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:08.200 So that is the testimony from the alleged victim she 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.359 sounds very triggered. Let's listen to Cardi B's highlight reel 0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:11.919 from this trout. 0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:14.000 Do you prefer calling you miss Almonds? 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:14.640 Ar Cardi B? 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:17.080 Or it doesn't that mean? 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.320 Did you can call you mc cardy. 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:24.240 I was a little like, I don't want a guy 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.239 that I work with to know I'm going to a 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:27.200 vagina doctor. 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:34.759 You're following me, you're recording me. I'm just trying to 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:36.440 check my cat. 0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:38.520 Are we having a verbal altercation? 0:49:39.800 --> 0:49:40.320 We haven't. 0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:42.600 We'll say a debate. 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:46.759 Which one is your real? 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:47.000 Here? 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:48.359 Are they both? 0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:48.680 Really? 0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:55.040 They're wigs? 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:59.840 Because I'm pregnant and this girl's about to beat my ass? 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:00.960 Hello? 0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.439 Hello, Hello, I'm here. 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.200 I was looking at her face, but I wasn't looking like. 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.960 She like bimple thing she loved? 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:13.600 Who was that? 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:19.759 I said, that's like out of here, just trying to 0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:21.040 get some money? 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.160 Who who's trying to get some money? 0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:23.960 She is? 0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:25.200 How do you know that? 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.239 Because she sawing me for twenty five million, twenty four 0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:28.880 million dollars? 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.120 You said she's bigger than you, exact right? 0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:37.839 I absolutely how do you know that? I mean, look, 0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.800 I mean you you have a you have a medical record. 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:42.959 I don't have anything. I don't answer either question. 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.279 I mean I was a hundred and thirty pounds at that. 0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:51.080 Time, So she's overweight, right in your opinion objection? 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:55.360 You know my thin small, you don't be fancy, Okay. 0:50:57.200 --> 0:50:58.360 So Cardi being. 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:04.160 Una her say if we can Nick keeping part where 0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:05.719 she says she's security heavy. 0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:11.640 Because I think they could before that part is a 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:13.759 highlight where she says that if I can find it, 0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.160 I'll send it to you Nick, because security heavy is 0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:17.759 the best thing ever. 0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:21.000 She's like, she's security heavy building. 0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:28.640 I love Cardi b Man. I loved her since she 0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.200 did that damn video about health care yes and then 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:34.600 taking health care away and she's just trying to go 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.680 and get her checked. 0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:39.240 Oh wow. 0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:42.960 I didn't say the said. 0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.200 Ok she said, that's not. 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.160 You're talking about. She said the words, I just want 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:55.160 to go get health care video. Yeah, about to try 0:51:56.320 --> 0:51:56.839 shut down. 0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:00.520 She kept it the realest saying she was like, we 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:02.680 can't even go get doctor. We're just trying to go 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.920 get up and checked. I was like this this woman, 0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.960 please put her on because she's she's like people be 0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:11.960 trying her. She's like heavyweight smart. 0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.759 I was watching she is clever, thinking like, why is 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:19.480 Cardi b rapping? Like you we need this level of 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.920 because she was very strategic, like they were. First of all, 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:27.359 if the if the the lawyer for the plaintiffs, if 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:30.800 he's a lawyer, then I'm a lawyer. Because this was 0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:34.759 one I didn't watch enough. So the Law and Order 0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.719 SBU you to know your questions are terrible, sir. And 0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:40.640 he what he was trying to do was pigeonhole her 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:42.680 and try to say she's not black. So he's like, 0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.880 what is your background? You African American? And she was 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:48.680 like Afro Caribbean. But she was ten steps ahead of 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.799 him at every time. She was so smart, so strategic, 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:54.680 and he did not appear to have preppt his witness 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.800 because she her testimony was not consistent. 0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.799 She had said that she could do well. 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.200 She said something different in the immediate on camera interview 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:06.440 than what she was saying on the stand. They were 0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:08.719 planning this for her. You could tell that she was 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.360 just like kind of making up things and this idea 0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.080 that you had to get plastic surgery because her nail 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:17.600 scratched to you. Now, unfortunately, this week when they announced 0:53:17.640 --> 0:53:20.480 the verdict, card and a reporter asked Cardi B about 0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:24.680 fraternity issue. She threw a pin at him. So I 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:30.160 do want our sister Cardi B to just be conscious 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.880 and not put herself in those positions. But the reporter 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:35.440 was like, I love her, I would never see her. 0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.920 But I just I'm a fan of Cardi B. I 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.680 think I'm gonna get her her album and either drama. 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.600 This could not have been better publicity and shout out 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:48.400 to tubby Sean Holliday, who was standing right by her 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:52.719 side after the trial. Sean Holliday is a longtime music 0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.160 executive and Wheeler High School. He went to wheel We 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:57.480 went to high school together in Atlanta. 0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:03.319 So shout them out, aliens. 0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:03.640 Yea answer, what is you? 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:04.359 I mean, you're a lawyer? 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:06.440 What did what did you think of all of it? 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.160 So I didn't watch the whole trial. I watched clips 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:14.600 on social media. I felt like they were going to 0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:17.799 have a really hard time proving the case, in part 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.640 because I agree with you the questions coming from the 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:23.120 plaintiffs attorney were I don't know if he was trying 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:25.800 to think he was dumbing down to talk to Cardi B. 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.279 But it was not smart and she got him. I 0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:30.000 think that she got him in lots of ways, and 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:31.839 she knew when not to answer the questions. She would 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.319 pause and wait. I think very calculated. And I also 0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.400 think this case is nonsense when you get to the 0:54:38.440 --> 0:54:42.200 closing argument, and your closing argument is about what just 0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:45.439 happened outside with the reporter, and you're and you also 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:47.640 are saying, well, at least, if y'all not gonna give 0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:50.399 all the millions, at least give a seventeen thousand dollars 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:51.800 for a face. And if you're not gonna do that, 0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.160 at least give up ten more. I mean, it was ridiculous. 0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.840 What it was really bad? It was. It was not 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.600 well thought out or very strategic. And I think that 0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.040 a lot of people, particularly just so you all know, 0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:08.719 from a venue standpoint, this was taking place in l A. 0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:11.080 So jurors in l A. People in l A are 0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:14.160 very used to the shakedown civil suits, and I think 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:16.120 that people saw this for exactly what it was. 0:55:16.280 --> 0:55:20.440 So had the jury. Yes, from like jump, she had 0:55:20.480 --> 0:55:23.120 the jury. I mean the people. It was very clear 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:26.600 she was endearing that you could like her, and in fact, 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:28.440 if we were ever engineering, I would ask her like, 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.920 how do you keep the authenticity? I just feel like 0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.960 whatever when she says it, and she says a thing 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:38.400 she like, means a thing fully and if she tempers 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:40.200 around it, come. 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:45.200 On on the weekend we can ask Leonard. Leonard and 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:46.600 Cardi B are very cool. 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:52.040 So Cardi B on the podcast. I would love to 0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:52.680 hear from her. 0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:53.279 Lol. 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.840 Can you reach out Z? Can you book Gardy for 0:55:57.920 --> 0:55:59.240 next week on this podcast? 0:56:00.760 --> 0:56:03.120 Well, and speaking of calls to action, I think we 0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:04.760 could definitely jump into. 0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:06.919 Ours Cardi Carti Cardy. 0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:18.960 All right, so let's go ahead and jump into our 0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:20.520 calls action, which y'all got this week. 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:22.880 Well, my first one is to Cardi B. And we 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.000 would love to have you come on the podcast. You 0:56:25.040 --> 0:56:26.360 don't even have to talk about the trial if you 0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:28.360 don't one, I'd be interested in her thoughts and just 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:32.040 what is happening in the world in general. 0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:33.600 Yeah. 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.640 Right, I would love to hear from her on that 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:38.239 I'm sneaking and getting too. That was my first call 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:39.640 to action on my sal. 0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:41.960 I'll take your first one, okay. 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:47.520 My second call to action is be aware and be vigilant, 0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:49.880 Like I really do think we have to brace ourselves 0:56:49.920 --> 0:56:52.839 for what's coming. I think I may upset in one 0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:56.640 of our group chats Angela debt. I thought this was 0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:59.120 like a show of force that was gonna go away, 0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:01.240 and it very much. It seems like it's the beginning 0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:05.160 of something. And just every day I see something new 0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:07.879 that's like, wow, I can't believe this is what we're 0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:12.120 experiencing right now. As black folks, we've been through a lot. 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:14.600 I did not imagine we would be going back this 0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:17.720 far in our civil rights being rolled away in just 0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:22.080 you know, the acceptance that the Constitution, our laws, our rules, 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:24.960 our social norms and more rays they are all literally 0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.440 just pixied us that can just go away. So I 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:30.360 invite people to brace yourselves, to be vigilant. Take it seriously. 0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:32.320 I've had friends like, oh, they're not going to bother 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.280 my son. He goes to Gonzaga, he's in private school. 0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:37.880 And it's like, I can guarantee you they're not gonna 0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:40.280 look at your son and say, oh that's Sarah and 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:43.920 john Son. He's okay, Like it doesn't matter. You're you're 0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:46.680 in danger, your kids are in danger. So America is 0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:49.520 in danger, girl, So be vigilant. 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:59.440 Absolutely. Thanks car b Okay, So I don't know I 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:04.600 got that and us CARDI B you got it, Okay, Lenard, 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:08.680 get on it. I think mine is. You know, in 0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:11.840 this moment where we are drinking from a fire hose, 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.480 is Tiff just noted our civil rights have been rolled back. 0:58:14.720 --> 0:58:16.800 I think we expected some of that, but certainly not 0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:21.640 at this pace. It's a neck breaking pace. As someone 0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:25.160 who is battling high blood pressure and has not taken 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:29.240 the time to work out, I encourage you all to prioritize, 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:31.760 even if it's just an hour a day, be accountable 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:34.919 with me, holp me accountable to it, to take care 0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.280 of yourself. And I think the other thing that's really important. 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.320 I think I've been spending a lot of time being 0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:44.800 reflective of how precious life is. Our good sister friend 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:49.640 Carrie Champion recently lost her grandmother and shared with us 0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:53.480 and on her podcast Naked with Carrie Champion, I hope 0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:55.440 you all will tune into that as well. On iHeart, 0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:59.560 she talked about how much her grandmother meant to her. 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:02.480 The fact that she's in sports now is because of 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:05.840 her grandmother, who played basketball and has argued that she 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.600 made up the three point of herself. But as we 0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:12.360 as we mourn the loss of loved ones, whether it 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.880 is recent or it is further away. I think it's 0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:19.120 take the time to feel your feelings for grief, whether 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:21.480 it comes in the form of mourning the loss of 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.320 someone dear to you, or you're mourning the loss of 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.880 a country you once thought you knew, whatever it is, 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:29.720 take the time to feel your feelings. Ride the wave 0:59:29.840 --> 0:59:32.320 because you cannot control that wave. That is one thing 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.040 that you have to surrender to. And if you need support, 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:40.520 definitely see a therapist. And finally, please remember everybody to 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:42.960 check your tags and not put your clothes on backwards. 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:45.360 I just don't know what happened this morning. It's scratching 0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:48.000 my chest. I was like, you know what, and I 0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:50.439 said I. I was like, it's sitting up kind of high. 0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:54.000 I don't know. Don't put your clotheswards. We got enough 0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:56.080 backwards forward. 0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:57.840 Opposite. 0:59:58.040 --> 0:59:59.880 I did not mean to be criss cross today, but 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:01.160 jump jump, bring back. 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:04.240 Everything is retro. What you said workout for an hour 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:06.960 a day? May I ask what are you doing or 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.840 what are you planning to do for your one hour workout? 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:14.840 Yeah? So I used to love getting on my peloton. 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:17.960 I think I'm gonna get back on the peloton, especially 1:00:17.960 --> 1:00:19.840 because it felt like church on the bike. I really 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:23.280 missed my Angela Manuel Davis's classes. I went to church 1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:27.880 on the bike is a good thing, Yes, I would. Yeah, 1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:30.760 So peloton is not like Angela Manuel Davis, but yes 1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.040 to if you are right, it's so different, But I 1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:36.640 would do that again. And I'm thinking about variety and workouts. 1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:39.960 I need to not feel like I'm in monotony for 1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:42.080 me to be excited about it. I definitely need to 1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:45.840 do more yoga because I know my breath work. I 1:00:45.920 --> 1:00:48.240 need to work on my breath work. So yeah, those 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:49.760 are the things that I'm thinking of right now, and 1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:51.400 I'm gonna start with twenty minutes. I'm gonna try to 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:54.080 get on that peloton today because right now, sister girl 1:00:54.160 --> 1:00:57.520 is putting on these pounds like drop it in whatever 1:00:57.640 --> 1:01:01.160 whatever it is years And this is the other thing. 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:04.000 I mean, it matters how you feel about yourself. So 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:08.120 I definitely honor what you're saying. But Angela is so tiny, 1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:11.760 and I feel like you're comparing yourself to like ten 1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:14.160 years ago. I'm like you. 1:01:15.640 --> 1:01:18.640 People, I'm comparing myself to the clothes I can't fit. 1:01:19.880 --> 1:01:24.960 Okay, I nobody's gonna sae be like she's overweight, like 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:27.040 she is so so tiny. But I do hear you, 1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:29.320 and it's about health, you know, not just wait, so 1:01:29.400 --> 1:01:30.200 we should all take. 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:30.880 Care about business. 1:01:31.320 --> 1:01:32.920 But you you definitely even pick. 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.760 My blood pressure, you like, argue with my blood pressure. 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:38.800 Yeah, blood pressure or definitely healthy. 1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:40.720 Argue with my blood pressure on my clothes. 1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:41.280 Yeah. 1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:45.640 But I've been getting all thy labs. Also. This is 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:47.440 my last thing on health today because I didn't mean 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:49.160 to do a whole health mini pot and I know 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:52.360 we over but I will say this too. I used it. 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:53.960 I'm not gonna say the name of the service until 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:55.960 they sponsored the podcast, but I use this service. I'll 1:01:55.960 --> 1:01:59.680 tell y'all offline that is very very thorough. You can 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:02.800 get all your labs done, like blood work for each organ, 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:05.160 and then they give you clinical notes about each of 1:02:05.280 --> 1:02:09.919 these areas, very very thorough. And what I love about 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:13.160 it now is there's also a cancer screening where I've 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:15.640 been told because cancer runs in my family, my mom, 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:18.400 of course, I'm dealing with it now, like check. So 1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:20.840 I'm getting my mammogram next week, a Colonosco by the 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:23.920 week after that, and I'm getting all these labs. They're costly, 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:27.439 but it is so much cheaper than your hospital bill 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:31.400 if you have to fight cancer. So I'm here for y'all. 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:32.320 I'm trying to get better. 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:37.200 I love that we all need to yes, And if 1:02:37.200 --> 1:02:39.040 you like what you heard today, share with a friends 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:43.920 please so we could be in the person so account 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:44.760 can get off COVID. 1:02:48.600 --> 1:02:49.720 That is so true. 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:53.120 So as always, we want to remind everyone to leave 1:02:53.200 --> 1:02:56.400 us a review and subscribe to Native Lampard. We're available 1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:59.720 on all podcast platforms and YouTube. 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There are four hundred 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:35.520 and twenty five days until midterm election before we go. 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:37.120 Can I ask what are we talking about? On the 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:37.600 Mini Pod. 1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:41.400 Yes, what are we talking about? Andrew? Would you like 1:03:41.480 --> 1:03:43.400 to tell the audience we're talking about on the Mini 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:43.920 Pod today? 1:03:44.200 --> 1:03:45.720 I don't know what we're talking about which I want 1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:46.200 to talk about. 1:03:46.880 --> 1:03:49.280 I think we are talking about social media. I thought 1:03:49.320 --> 1:03:51.880 we had Isaac Kayes, who was gonna come. 1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:54.360 On, well, I'm gonna have to be learning a lot. 1:03:54.680 --> 1:03:57.400 Yes, but I think it's more than media. I want, like, 1:03:57.480 --> 1:03:59.320 I know, I want to talk about like platforms. A 1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:01.919 lot of people off Twitter, and I remember Angela making 1:04:01.960 --> 1:04:04.960 the point like, okay, but if you're getting off Twitter 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:08.280 but you're still on Facebook, like basically all these tech 1:04:08.360 --> 1:04:11.880 roles are problematic. So anyway, I want to I want 1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:15.840 to get into that. Oh, and Lolo has popped into something. 1:04:17.120 --> 1:04:21.720 I guess we're gonna we're gonna wrap Lo something. She 1:04:21.880 --> 1:04:24.880 back off. It was like she was like, I'm just 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:26.200 making sure y'all know I'm here. 1:04:26.360 --> 1:04:29.080 Hey bo, hell I look you today. So I just 1:04:29.120 --> 1:04:33.320 want to say, was that anyway? I interrupted our closing 1:04:33.360 --> 1:04:34.720 because I wanted to know what we're talking about on 1:04:34.720 --> 1:04:35.680 the Minion pots on my bad. 1:04:36.200 --> 1:04:40.400 Yes, absolutely, we are going to be talking with Isaac 1:04:40.480 --> 1:04:44.919 Cayes and to Misha Harris I believe it's her name, 1:04:45.880 --> 1:04:49.280 who is a producer and they recently had a conversation 1:04:49.520 --> 1:04:52.720 on the importance of us utilizing our own black owned platforms, 1:04:52.760 --> 1:04:55.440 and as you all know, we recently had a conversation 1:04:56.600 --> 1:05:00.000 about how we should engage from a listener question that challenge. 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:03.600 So we are going to definitely get into that and 1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:05.919 so much more on our mini pod. 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