1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all. This is episode NT Laura about say 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Native Pod. Okay, I try lead that in there. It 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: is episode Native Pod. Anyway, this is episode ninety five 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: of Native lamp Pid or we give you our breakdown 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: of all things politics and culture. It's a lot happening 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: in the culture. It's a lot happening in politics. We 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: are your hosts, Angela Rae, Tiffany Cross, and Andrew Gillip. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: What are we talking about today, y'all. 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: It's so much going on, with everything going on. I 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: do want to get into this Cardi B trial because 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 3: I think she taught a masterclass and how to handle 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: herself on the witness stand. So it's a lot of 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: seriousness going on. But I think this is a worthy topic. 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: A thousand percent agree over here. Love love, love Cardi B. 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 4: For real, for real, for real, tiff Angela, I want 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: to get into this conversation that we began last week 20 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: actually and we've been talking about for a minute, and 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: this is this assault by the Trump administration on American cities. 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: Just want to preview what's coming up and how two 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: very important mayors have two very important places have a 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: disagreement about the. 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Approach absolutely, and I also want to talk about party 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: and the mayors. And I'm actually surprised, y'all, but i 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: really want to spend some time diving into what's going 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: on with the Epstein files. I've been made privious some 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: things that I think we should share with our audience 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: about why this is actually very important. So I hope 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: to lean into that. And if y'all have ideas about 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: what we should be talking about every week, you should 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: make sure that you rate, review, subscribe, and let us know. 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: We take your videos, your questions, your comments. Y'all are 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: part of our family, so definitely send that in. Let's 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: get into it. 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 5: Hello, Native Land Podcast. My name is Nicole Buchanan. I 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 5: am a professor and a psychologist, and I focus on 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: trauma and the ways that individuals and organizations can make 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 5: changes so that all of us can thrive. I just 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 5: watched your podcast about the Epstein Files, and I think 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 5: there's an issue that nobody's really talking about that just 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 5: might explain why out of all of Trump's scandals, this 44 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 5: finally seems to be the thing that is breaking MAGA, 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 5: and that is for many, child sexual abuse is deeply personal. 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: Imagine a classroom of say twenty kids, we can expect 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 5: that at least two of the girls and one of 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 5: the boys will be sexually assaulted, molested, or raped by 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 5: their eighteenth birthday, and usually by somebody that they know 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: and trust. Over half of all adult women about a 51 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 5: third of adult men will experience sexual violence in their lifetimes. 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 5: So while most of us can't wrap our head around 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 5: most of Trump's scandals, like accepting a luxury jet, the 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 5: abuse of children is deeply personal. People know that feeling 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: of wishing someone had saved them or had saved their 56 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: loved ones, which means Trump's violation this time is deeply, 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 5: deeply personal. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on that, 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 5: and thank you for taking a moment to hear mine. 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: It's very powerful. 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for that question, doctor Buchanan. I think 61 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: that she might have tapped into something. Love to hear 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: you Law's responses and then we can jump right into this. 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: I disagree with her, and just in transparency, when we 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: before we do this show, the three of us as 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: co hosts get on a call and talk about what 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about. And so when Angela said this, 67 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: I was like, h I don't think so. I think 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: this is, you know, an issue that we're being My 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: thought is we're being led by the nose by the 70 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: people who believe in the Pizzagate scandal. That's not to 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: dismiss what's happening with Epstein, but I'm curious what evidence 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: is there that there is a fracture in Trump's support 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: because of this issue. Yes, people are complaining about it, 74 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: Yes people are on the internet. But we've already known 75 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: Trump is a liar and that has not scared his 76 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: base away. We've already known he's inappropriate with women that 77 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: did not scare his base away. We know that he's 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: been inappropriate with children that did not scare his base away. 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: We knew this in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen when 80 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: he would oversee the Miss Teen USA pageant. There was 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: countless evidence then of him going into the dressing room, 82 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: making inappropriate comments to the young girls, then touching them then. 83 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: And I just think this is all, you know, a 84 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: little bit of bullshit. You know, obviously the victims that 85 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 3: I know, Angela, you were moved by some really compelling 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: testimony that I definitely want to hear. But I think 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: if his base were truly concerned about sexual assault, there 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: have been countless times where they could have spoken up. 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: For example, one of the largest shelters of migrant children 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: in Texas, South Key Programs, was accused and found liable 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 3: for enabling the sexual abuse of children and minors. This 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: was a huge deal. They had worked with the federal 93 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: government for more than two decades. They were housing underage 94 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: migrants for the federal government, which was a financial boon 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: for contractors. There was money into basically grabbing these children 96 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: and keeping them in these shelters. It was one of 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: several providers that cashed in. Is the administration found shelter 98 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: for more than five thousand children forced into federal custody. 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: Where I asked, were all was all this outrage from 100 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: Trump supporters? Then it did not happen. Then I do 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: not anticipate that it will happen now, unless, of course 102 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: we're saying it only matters when white children are sexually abused. Furthermore, 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: right now, these same people who are protesting Epstein, these 104 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: same people have said nothing about out the more than 105 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: thirty thousand children that are missing and lost in the 106 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: system that are migrant children who and that makes them 107 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: more susceptible to being trafficked right now the Trump administration. 108 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: Just last month, a federal judge had to strike down 109 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: because he was trying to send six hundred unaccompanied minors, 110 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: some as young as ten years old, back to their 111 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: home country of Guatemala, where there was no guarantee where 112 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: they would be cared for. This was on the heels 113 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: of him sending more children into the pipeline of being deported. 114 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: And you know, this has been happening across both administrations 115 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three. The Homeland Security 116 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: Inspector General found we don't even know the exact amount, 117 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: but found that there were tens of thousands of missing children. 118 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: So obviously we don't disagree on the seriousness of sexual abuse. 119 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: My only point is, if we cared about sexual abuse, 120 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: this is something that we could have been talking about 121 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: for years. If we cared about this administration being a 122 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: liar and not caring about children for years, this is 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 3: something So I've just not seen the evidence that his 124 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: base is going to abandon him over Epstein. But I'm 125 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: happy to be proven wrong. I hope I'm wrong on 126 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: this subject. We'll see. 127 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, Andrew. Yeah, I want to get into 128 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: to hear from some of these voices. 129 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: But go for it real quick one, doctor McKennon. I 130 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: appreciate what you open our eyes to with the research, 131 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 4: and frankly, the very brilliant way in which you delivered it. 132 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: You can very much hotel you work with students. But Tiff, 133 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: I don't know that I disagree with you about whether 134 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: this is a permanent fracture in the Trump base and 135 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: whether it will be consequential enough for them to stay 136 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: home during the midterms or in any way defect in 137 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: serious numbers from him. I think on that point I 138 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: probably agree with you. But thinking back to the episode, 139 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: I remember just saying I don't know how this thing 140 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: is got such legs. I'm shocked that it's got the 141 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: kind of traction that it has. And I think doctor 142 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: Buchannan was probably in part responding to the fact that 143 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: given just the rank numbers of this of how many men, 144 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: you know, boys girls who are now women and and 145 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 4: men have had sexual assault, you know, in their lives 146 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: in a very real personal way, and we could probably 147 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: between the three of us, imagine that a number of 148 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: those and I don't know what the percentage is probably 149 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: went unreported. Yeah, And so to now be at this 150 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: moment where it's being thrust in your face in such 151 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 4: an overt, no obvious way, you're aware of what what 152 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: what Epstein did and who is riding partners, were you 153 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: feel in some ways probably pretty you know, jaded, dejected, 154 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 4: but more than anything, in a personally, very personally with 155 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 4: these individuals, a real sense of betrayal and failure that 156 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 4: maybe you thought you were going to be heard or 157 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 4: stories like yours would be heard, And now all of 158 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: a sudden again it's being swept under the rug. 159 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: I want to hear. 160 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And to that yes, to that point, there was 161 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: an NBC News like almost like a focus group style 162 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: conversation with Epstein's survivors and some of the victims family members. 163 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: So I want us to first roll a clip from 164 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: one of the victims brothers, Oh. 165 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 6: Sorry, she shouldn't be here. 166 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: I am so honored to be here with. 167 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: You guys. 168 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,359 Speaker 4: She she would be here. 169 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 7: She'd be screaming, you know, And I think you know 170 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 7: they said it best. It's like if I could really say, 171 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 7: what you know, what we're looking for out of this 172 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 7: is justice, looking for accountability, and I think it's you know, 173 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 7: we really have to start questioning what do we stand for? 174 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,479 Speaker 4: So you know, it means the world. 175 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 7: To be here with you, all of you, and you know, 176 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 7: I think this is only the beginning of what's really 177 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 7: to come because showing a force like this, they have 178 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 7: to listen now. 179 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: And I want to also go to one of the 180 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: survivors herself, who spoke to the impact of what happened 181 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: to her under the care or the watch rather of 182 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: Julie Epstein. 183 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 8: Going through stuff like this, especially as an adult, it 184 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 8: brings up a lot of mental health issues and I 185 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 8: thought of hurting myself and not now, but you know, 186 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 8: over the last six or so years, just going through 187 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 8: all this, and it's hard. And I know that if 188 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 8: I have those thoughts and Virginia has those thoughts and 189 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 8: where victims, you know, how many more of us do 190 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 8: we have to lose? 191 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: Virginia, who was referenced here, took her own life after 192 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: suffering under the weight of this for many many years. 193 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Wendy referenced six years but they have been dealing with 194 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: this since they were fourteen years old. One of the 195 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: things that you hear from a survivor who's going to 196 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: play now is why they may need to take justice 197 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: into their own hands. Show of hands. 198 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 9: Did any of you hear from the Justice Department before 199 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 9: they released that memo, that two page memo earlier this summer? 200 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: No hands. 201 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 9: Were any of you told that Todd Blanche would be 202 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 9: speaking with Gillay Maxwell prior to that interview over the 203 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 9: course of two days. No, No, were any of you 204 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 9: told about the prison transfer that doing that. No where 205 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 9: any of you. Do any of you feel that the 206 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 9: DJ has communicated with you enough this year? 207 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 10: No? 208 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 9: Have any of you had any communication with the DJ. No, 209 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 9: nobody in this room has heard at all from the 210 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 9: Department of Justice. 211 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: No. 212 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 9: No, is that surprising to you? 213 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 10: No, No, it should be. It should Yeah, it should 214 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 10: be to think it's their job. This is the center 215 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 10: of this whole entire case. They are the center. Why 216 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 10: would you, Glenn Maxwell, Let's get this right before the 217 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 10: narrative changes. 218 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 11: And I believe that so strongly that that is the 219 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 11: intent of her. She's trying to rewrite history. And it 220 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 11: was almost like she was given that platform to do that, 221 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 11: and that is not acceptable on any terms. She wasn't 222 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 11: just this co conspirator and that was her boyfriend. She 223 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 11: was actively participant. She prayed upon these young girls, and 224 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 11: she used her womanhood to do it. 225 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 10: Yes, Okay, Virginia said it. 226 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 11: She was vicious, she was a monster. She doesn't deserve 227 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 11: any type of platform. 228 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to play those clips because I think it 229 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: is important one for me. I think that when you 230 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: hear Epstein's name over and over and over again, you 231 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: get to a point where you almost just harden your heart. 232 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: To the point of the question we received from doctor Buchanan, 233 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: there are a number of people that suffer in silence 234 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: around child sexual abuse because they are shamed, They feel 235 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: like they did something wrong. Many of the victims that 236 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: I talked to, some in my own family, feel like 237 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: it would just be easier to pretend like it disappears, 238 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: something that also comes up in that segment. But one 239 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: place where they may be able to get justice is 240 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: in the halls of Congress because they are not taking 241 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: no for an answer. They are pushing. And we saw 242 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: some of this after a briefing that was held earlier 243 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: this week. 244 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: But I want to be clear. 245 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 12: What we heard today is a cover up, and it 246 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 12: is a cover up of epic proportions, A cover up 247 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 12: involving the United States Government, the justice system, rich and 248 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 12: powerful individuals, a cover up potentially involving foreign countries and 249 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 12: foreign actors. And yes, here today in this House, as 250 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 12: our colleagues are up in the House Chamber and the 251 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 12: Rules Committee, a cover up by the Republicans in this chamber, 252 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 12: because as you will find out in the coming days 253 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 12: and weeks, this goes all the way to the top. 254 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 12: So let's be clear about that. There has been a 255 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 12: systemic failure of the justice system for decades, a systemic 256 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 12: failure to hold people who are powerful and have money 257 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 12: to account, and that has allowed not just hundreds, but 258 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 12: potentially thousands of women not only in the United States 259 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 12: but around the world to be bought, sold, and trafficked 260 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 12: for sex, not only by Jeffrey Epstein, but by his 261 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 12: associates and his rich and powerful friends. And as these 262 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 12: stories come forward, whether there are stories that have already 263 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 12: been told, their stories in those FBI files that have 264 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 12: not been released by the Department of Justice, in which 265 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 12: they must release because of the subpoena or whether they 266 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 12: are stories of victims that have not yet come forward, 267 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 12: we will hold you all accountable. 268 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing that's interesting here, y'all 269 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: tip I know you getting up and sitting down. You 270 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: guess they said for two more clips. There is one 271 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: that I think that we should witness from another person 272 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: on another side of the aisle. This is one that 273 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: surprised me a little bit. So if we can play 274 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Nancy Mace. So Nancy Mace, you see her walking down 275 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: the hallway. She's actually in tears, and she responds to 276 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: this clip, and she says on Twitter yesterday or earlier 277 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: this week, since it's already being reported. Yes, I left 278 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: the oversight briefing with Epstein victims early as a recent survivor, 279 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: not two years in. I had a very difficult time 280 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: listening to their stories full blown panic attack, sweating, hyperventilating, shaking, 281 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: I can't breathe. And I definitely think we should hear 282 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: from another member of Congress who's a dear sister to 283 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: this show on what she thinks looks like the next 284 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: steps must be today's roundtable. 285 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: Again. 286 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 13: It was necessary, it was long overdue, and it was 287 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 13: very powerful, and it is why I continue to call 288 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 13: for a congressional hearing, because their stories need to be 289 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 13: a part of a congressional record, and the entire public 290 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 13: needs to understand just how systemic and how far, how 291 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 13: far and wide, and how deep this institutional betrayal goes. 292 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: For people that would wonder how high are the stakes here? 293 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 13: This is a matter of life and death because Virginia 294 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 13: Jeffrey took her life after decades of failure, and they 295 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 13: are victims that can no longer come up, come forward 296 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 13: because they're in a fetal position, so broken by the 297 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 13: way of what they've been carrying, shame that they've been 298 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 13: caring when it is not their shame to carry. So 299 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 13: Virginia Jeffrey took her life because of the institutional consecutive 300 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 13: failures and betrayals of our government. So this is a 301 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 13: matter of life. 302 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: And death, a matter of life and death. So I 303 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: just wanted you all to sit with that, to see it. 304 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: I agree with Tiff that I don't know that it 305 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: is a significant fracture in the magabase. But what I 306 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: do know is that there are people at home on 307 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle and everywhere in between who 308 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: have either been a party to sexual assault, have experienced 309 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: what it's like to be violated and to have to 310 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: hold that as if it is your own baggage to hold. 311 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: And I just think that this is one of those 312 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: moments that can if they are able to properly break through, 313 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: if they are able to have these folks dj respond 314 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: to the subpoena the way that they should when Congress 315 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: issues a subpoena, that maybe they may get a little 316 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: bit of justice. These folks were pleading for justice on 317 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 1: NBC News as we saw, and I think that the 318 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: only way that they were able to get any type 319 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: of just recourse is by having advocates like the ones 320 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: we saw in Congress fighting to ensure that maybe they 321 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: don't get their day in court, but at least they 322 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: get their day in the halls of Congress with the hearing. 323 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: Well, just for contexts earlier here, Nancy Mace took to 324 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: the house floor and accused her ex fiance and ex boyfriends, 325 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: and she detailed her experience with sexual assault and sexual abuse. 326 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 3: So I anticipated that this would be a painful exchange 327 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 3: for her, and I do not dismiss her experience at all, 328 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 3: but realistically Nancy Mace is a Trump Siica fan and 329 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: votes with him more than ninety percent of the time. Again, 330 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: I don't know that this would highlight need sort of 331 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: fracture Trump's DJA, we already know cannot be trusted. Pam 332 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 3: Bondi told Donald Trump that his name was in the 333 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: Epstein files multiple times. Donald Trump just decided I don't 334 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: like that story, So I'm just gonna say that conversation 335 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: never happened. But that's according to reporting from the Wall 336 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: Street Journal. He lies routinely, and so again, I think 337 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: my heart goes out to any victims of sexual abuse, 338 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 3: but I just knowe how so often we will skip 339 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: past thirty two thousand missing children or actual documented sexual 340 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: abuse of children from Southwest Key programs. And again, this 341 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: is well documented. It was reported in the New York 342 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: Times several times, and I think there is this undercurrent 343 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: of one This was so salacious because Republicans thought the 344 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: Clintons were attached to this, and this is how this 345 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: became a big deal, and then it resurfaced because the 346 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: Echo Chambers folks is solely on Epstein. When three hundred 347 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: thousand plus black women lost their jobs, it was not 348 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: a breaking news banner for weeks at a time, as 349 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 3: people are being kidnapped off the street, the context is 350 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: presented as both sides. As the unemployment rate disproportionately impacts 351 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: black men as well, that's not a breaking news banner. 352 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: As our food systems, our democratic core principles are are eroding, 353 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: that's not the breaking news banner. So the media has 354 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 3: really spoon fed the Epstein case, and I just feel 355 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 3: like it deserves equals. If we're going to talk about it, 356 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 3: then let's talk about the role of separating families and 357 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 3: how that fed children into being trafficked. Let's care about 358 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: all the kids who are going through sexual abuse. And 359 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: I just haven't seen that, and I certainly haven't seen 360 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: any evidence that the Epstein thing is going to be 361 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: the thing to bring down MAGA. So I don't mean 362 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: to be dismissive, but I do hear myself, and I 363 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: do feel like a cynic in this case. I definitely 364 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: have all the empathy, and I think justice should be 365 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: pursued on behalf of the victims, for sure, no doubt 366 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 3: about that. But I just look at the hypocrisy across 367 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: the landscape, and I think a false hope that people 368 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: think oh, this is it, this is going to be 369 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: the thing, and I just I don't think it will. 370 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: I don't. And I also don't think a lot of 371 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: these people care about Latino children who are being sexually 372 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: abused as we speak. Take to the streets for that 373 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: protest that Congresswoman Nancy Mays, who voted for Trump in 374 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 3: this policy, shed some tears for that, and then I 375 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: think that would be a more authentic conversation. 376 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Andrew, I know you have something to say. 377 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: I just want to say, for the record, for the 378 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: folks listening at home, we definitely don't con condone any 379 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: sexually sexual assault or sexual violence, and for all survivors 380 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: of these traumatic experiences, our hearts go out to you. 381 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: I am grateful that on this show we can talk 382 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: about the folks who are being separated from their families 383 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: and all of that, but in this particular container, which 384 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: is an Epstein Files container, that we can also urge 385 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: for Congress to do its work, to not go on 386 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: recess early, to avoid doing its work, and when you 387 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: return the fact that there are members like Aana Presley, 388 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: like Melanie Stansbury, and even in this case, yes, Nancy Mace, 389 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: who are not going to let it fall by the wayside. 390 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: I think it is very, very important that we're able 391 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: to separate those things. We got a couple of other 392 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: issues to get to today that are different. It's not 393 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: oppression Olympics. We have to make sure that we hold 394 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: space for all of these things, because everyone is going 395 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: through it in some real ways. And yes, these young 396 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: women who were suffering at the hands of this a 397 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: few were on that stage, but there are hundreds of 398 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: these women. They deserve to be heard and they deserve 399 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: justice as well. Andrea, mean to jump in. 400 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: Before you after all you said, I would just say, 401 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 4: and it's okay to prioritize those traumatic experiences in your 402 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 4: lives when it comes to making political decisions as well. 403 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 4: I think a lot of times, because of the weight 404 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: of the shame that you carry, you push so much 405 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: of this stuff down. I mean, I think about, you know, 406 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: when I was ready to admit complicity to everything under 407 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: the sun just to avoid feeling like I was ever 408 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: a victim of something. And so you convince yourself that 409 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: you don't want to be in a helpless place, and 410 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 4: sometimes that convincing can take so much of a toll 411 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: that that folks have you know, results resorted to to 412 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 4: take in their lives. I think, hopefully if this is 413 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 4: a moment, maybe it is a moment to get some 414 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 4: real change along the lines of this issue and breakthrough 415 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: this not you know this, this completely partisan, you know maga, 416 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: you know craziness, to get some real stuff done. If 417 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: if that's where it leads to, then I think that 418 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: would be a form of redemption, a form of accountability 419 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: for those who are survivors. But if it continues to 420 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: be played like a political football, then I fear that 421 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: the only thing that's at the end of that tunnel 422 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: is more hurt, more pain, more excuses, and frankly, more 423 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: very powerful men and powerful people being able to have 424 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 4: their way any kind of way with anybody, anytime, anywhere, 425 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: and be able to avoid accountability for it. 426 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: So with that, we know that absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And 427 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: with that, speaking of what's happening right now, we also 428 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: know that there is a lot happening where Tip resides 429 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: in the District of Columbia. We're going to get into 430 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: what is happening with this DC takeover and Mario Bowser's 431 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: one eighty from last week. I want to get into 432 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: what Mariel Bowser had to say say about Trump's occupation 433 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: just last week. Our north star. 434 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 14: Is protecting home rule in the district's autonomy in all things, 435 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 14: especially during this last eight months where it has been 436 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 14: clear that our autonomy has kind of been in the crosshairs. 437 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 3: That's our north star. 438 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 14: Since the beginning of this federal surge of officers, it 439 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 14: has always been my focus on We didn't ask for 440 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 14: any federal officers. We're driving crime down, but while they're here, 441 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 14: how can we most strategically use them to accelerate the 442 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 14: work that MPD has done. So that's our point. The 443 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 14: next point is how do we exit from this emergency 444 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 14: that the President declared. We know what the law says. 445 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 14: He can declare it for just about anything. It runs 446 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 14: thirty days unless on the Congress stops it. I thought 447 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 14: I made it very clear. What has not worked during 448 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 14: this period of time is ice terrorizing communities, especially with masks, 449 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 14: and especially not having enough information about where people are. 450 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: I've said that repeatedly. 451 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 14: I'll say it again. What hasn't worked, in my opinion, 452 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 14: hasn't been efficient and it's not on mission. It's National 453 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 14: Guard troops, especially from other states. 454 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: So imagine our surprise when this again, this was last week. 455 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: But imagine our surprise when on September second, there was 456 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: an order created the creation of the Safe and Beautiful 457 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: Emergency Operations Center. This is guidance from the Office of 458 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: the Mayor. The Mayor's order is two zero twenty five 459 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: or twenty twenty five dash zero nine zero, and she 460 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: in this statement or in this order says, in section two, 461 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: there is established the Safe and Beautiful Emergency Operations Center, 462 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: whereby they will be coordinating with United States Commercial Service, 463 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: the FBI, the United States Park Police, the DEEA, the 464 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the United States 465 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: Capitol Police, and the Secret Service. And let me tell you, 466 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: when you always know you found yourself on the wrong 467 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: side of the truth. When Caroline Levitt tweets and says 468 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: the Trump administration is I'm getting there. The Trump administration 469 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: is grateful to continue partnering with Mayor Bowser to make 470 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: DC the safest city in the country. The mayor's fellow 471 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: Democrats should take note. Working with President Trump means safer 472 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: communities and less crime. No one in their right mind 473 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: could seriously oppose that, and yet Caroline, no one in 474 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: their right mind could agree with you. Friend. So now 475 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: I want to turn to and young activist who was 476 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: recently detained under this craziness. Yes, her name is a Feenie. 477 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: She's involved with Free DC and she had this to 478 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: say about MARYO. Bowser's pivot. 479 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 15: This occupation has emboldened an already over zealous police presence 480 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 15: to increase their brutality and their subjugation against district residents. 481 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 15: And no matter what the mayor says, the city of 482 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 15: DC is not grateful for the influx of the illegal 483 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 15: stops and purchase. The city of DC is not grateful, 484 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 15: not thankful for the militarization of an unaccountable police force 485 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 15: or are performer patrols by Trump. 486 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: And his administration. So I just think it's so important 487 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: in this moment for us to understand what it looks 488 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: like to be on the right side of history and 489 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: on the wrong side of history. Right now, sadly, I 490 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: believe the black woman mayor of Washington, DC is on 491 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: the wrong side of history. And I don't know who 492 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: she thinks, what she thinks she's doing with the strategy 493 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: is here. We talk often about no permanent friends no 494 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: permanent enemies, just permanent interests. Maybe she thinks this is 495 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: a permanent interest things, but if she talks to her residents, 496 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that a lot of people see this 497 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: in their interests. I love to hear what y'all think. 498 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: I have a question. 499 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: I can't think him. 500 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: I will probably you may be about to answer it. 501 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: But because you were a mayor, I mean, DC is 502 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: a little different because it's the home of the federal 503 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: government and we don't have the autonomy that Dallahassee did. 504 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: But I'm just curious, because you were a mayor, do 505 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: you think that she handled this correctly? And if you 506 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: were the mayor of Washington, d C. How might you 507 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: have handled this? 508 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: I appreciate that the question there are some differences. Although 509 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 4: we are both capital cities. Tallahassee, Florida is home to 510 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: the center seat of government for the state of Florida, 511 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: and at least for all of my adulthood, my apoloitic 512 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: have been opposite of that of the of the government 513 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: and charge here in Florida. Yet, and still I don't 514 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 4: know how. I keep thinking, y'all. You know me, I'm 515 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: going to try to look at the glass half full. 516 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: If I possibly can on her behalf, which is to say, 517 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: maybe she's doing some jiu jitsu right, like taking the 518 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: energy that he's putting towards her and like reversing that 519 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 4: thing and playing with his head in some way, and 520 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: that behind the scenes there is some masterful plan going 521 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: on where she is being able to meet with members 522 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: of Congress who have say so over her district, the 523 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: District of Columbia, and is pocketing a hell of a 524 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: lot of cash to then be reinvested in the city 525 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: the District of Columbia and the types of programs that 526 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: really do go toward reducing crime over the long haul. 527 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: What what we learned from from from the Mayor of 528 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: Chicago when he was giving national interviews and still is 529 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: of course, is that he's I don't just throw money 530 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 4: at me, throw the right kind of money, throw the 531 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 4: right kind of resources, don't pull numbers out of the air. 532 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: Let's deal with the facts that we have and then 533 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: the data that then suggests that if we put the 534 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 4: money here, it'll take us a lot further. The Mayor 535 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: of DC has me very much flamoxed and confused. I 536 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: don't know how as a sitting mayor one. You take 537 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: it as a helpmate when the federal government essentially comes 538 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: in and saying says, you're doing a terrible job. In fact, 539 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 4: it's so terrible that we have to access and tap 540 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: into a very little known and little used law to 541 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: come in and do the job that you have failed 542 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: to do. I believe Mayor Bowser is what a three 543 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 4: term mayor maybe certainly two terms, maybe on a fourth, 544 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 4: I'm not real sure. But all I'm saying is is 545 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: with that much tenure under your belt, municipal government, with 546 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 4: the responsibility of seeing to the safety of your citizens, 547 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 4: I take it as a real insult. Okay, fine, Now 548 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: I'm over ego, and I'm dealing with the fact that 549 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 4: any surge that they could possibly produce for you is 550 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 4: one that is not going that you can hold, is 551 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 4: not one that you can hold over the long term. 552 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 4: And so what happens is is after thirty days and 553 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: maybe another thirty day extension and maybe a few more 554 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: after that, the problem then comes back to you and 555 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: what do you think you're gonna get Because the material 556 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 4: conditions on the ground of homelessness and poverty and mental 557 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: health and people working a job that they can get 558 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 4: paid to keep a roof over their head and food 559 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: on the table close on their backs. Those things are 560 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: still lacking. And on top of that, you got three 561 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 4: hundred plus black women out of work, a lot of 562 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 4: them based in Washington, d C. 563 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand, three hundred. 564 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I hope I said three hundred thousand, and 565 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: if I didn't, three hundred thousand plus and the number 566 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 4: is growing. So the conditions, again, material conditions on the 567 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: ground are going to be abhorrent, and then it will 568 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 4: appear again that you are incapable of doing your job. 569 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 4: And what makes me really frustrated about the way on 570 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: which this is now being handled by the mayor is 571 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: that it gives them the wrong message and it sends 572 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: the wrong policy prescript to these folks that you can 573 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 4: just boost us for a couple of months with a 574 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 4: bunch of military and so we look like a police state, 575 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: drive our numbers down, and then that's going to be 576 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 4: considered success, when in truth, on the other side of 577 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 4: that is those numbers are going up, and I guarantee 578 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 4: you they will be much higher than they were before 579 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 4: the government ever entered the federal government ever entered that territory. 580 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I have more questions than I do 581 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: thoughts here, Andrew. Again, what you just laid out, Donald 582 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: Trump is already saying, and we've been telling our viewers 583 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: this is coming soon to a city near you. So 584 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 3: this was ground zero. How our leaders responded can cast 585 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,239 Speaker 3: a wide netive influence across the country. And again, I 586 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: do just want to punctuate that DC is in a 587 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: unique position because it is essentially controlled by Congress. I 588 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: wonder what piece of advice, Andrew, that you would give 589 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: to the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Baltimore, 590 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 3: Brandon Scott, the mayor of Oakland, former Congressman Barbara Lee. 591 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: So that's my first question for you, And then my 592 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: question for Angela, because of your years of experience on 593 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: Capitol Hill, what if anything, can and should the Democratic 594 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: leadership be doing to protect these predominantly on black cities, 595 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: specifically Washington, d C. Since they live here as well. 596 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: So however, y'all want to appreciate it, Teff, and I'll 597 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: go real quick Angela and pass it under you. And 598 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 4: that is one I understand the uniqueness of the position 599 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 4: of Washington, d C. The District of Columbia, which should 600 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: be a state. Understand that you've got to work with 601 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: Republicans or whoever is in charge. However, if you scared, 602 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: say you scared, and if you scared, you should not 603 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 4: be the mayor of Washington, d C. There are plenty 604 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: of people who we have to work collaboratively and across 605 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 4: the aisle. But when that becomes the outright lack of 606 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 4: representation for the people who are feeling terrorized, the ones 607 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 4: that elect you directly to represent them, then that that's 608 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 4: where the rub is for me, that there ain't anybody 609 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 4: out there that I have to work with so much 610 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 4: so that I then take the priorities of those individuals 611 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: or that institution over the priorities of the people who 612 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: elected me duly to service their representative voice, their protector, 613 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: their keeper, their father of the city or mother of 614 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 4: the city for the time in which. 615 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 16: You have it. 616 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 4: That's where it is for me. It starts and ends 617 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: right there. You're in service to them, not the other 618 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: way around. And then as mayors, I would say one, 619 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: I think the mayor of Chicago has been doing an 620 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: incredible job and trying to forecast getting out there before 621 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 4: Trump and his people ever are able to He's they've 622 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: they've been basically laying out, Look, this is what they're 623 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: gonna do. Let me tell you why it is that 624 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: they're coming here, And let me tell you what instructions 625 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 4: I'm giving to law enforcement around non cooperation under such circumstances. 626 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 4: These are going to be resources available to you, so 627 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: on and so forth. I would say Mayor Karen Bass, 628 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 4: who really was at the tip of this spear, also 629 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 4: had to act in really real time. And what did 630 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: they do. They they they activated neighborhood networks to keep 631 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 4: communities safe, alarm systems that were intended to inform as 632 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 4: many people as you can. Look, they're here, they're on 633 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 4: this block, avoid it, do this, do that. And by 634 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 4: the way, they did just win the court battle that 635 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: that the president overstepped his boundaries and sending military troops 636 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 4: there and the way in which he did. And I 637 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 4: think that that's the same ruling that will be held 638 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: when he goes to Chicago. Should that should should that 639 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 4: to that instance occur. But I think they are doing well. 640 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 4: I would just say, know the law and know what 641 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 4: your limitations as well as your where you where your 642 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: opportunities may exist to one keep your people protected, but 643 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 4: two to put the government back on his heels. Because 644 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 4: I guarantee you the way in which the mayor and 645 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: the governor of Illinois and Chicago and the county executive 646 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 4: have been handling this, I believe you. I believe that 647 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: they have probably changed the government's plans probably multiple times 648 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 4: since their announcement that they were going into Chicago, around 649 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 4: the timing, the place, the choosing of when they would 650 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 4: do so. 651 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate what you're saying, Andrew and Tif. I also 652 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: thank you for the question. I think that what I 653 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: would say, given the fact that I had the great 654 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to work for the conscience of the Congress that's 655 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: what we call the Congressional Black Caucus, is that they've 656 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: always been very clear about their line in the sand. 657 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes negotiation to get on the same page. 658 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: But we are in a moment where you cannot cooperate 659 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: with fascism. You have to know in your mind what 660 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: fascism looks like, be clear about defining it, and then 661 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: saying here's what my response to fascism will be, here's 662 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: my alternative to what fascism is. You cannot say, well, 663 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: I guess I gotta be quiet because we show want 664 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: this stadium moved here. Well, well, I guess I gotta 665 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: be quiet because we show got this budget to pass. 666 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 1: The budget is not going to serve your constituents or 667 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: your residence in DC if they are locked up because 668 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: they decided that somebody didn't pay their metro fare, or 669 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: they decided that somebody was standing around too long loitering, 670 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: or they decided that because you are black with locks, 671 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: you are inherently violent and criminal. And so there has 672 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: to be a very very clear line in the sand. 673 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: And I just don't see that. And I'm actually really 674 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: really sad because I was looking forward to someone who 675 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: calls herself the mentee of Mary and Barry to stand 676 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: up the way we would expect Mary and Barry to 677 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: stand up. I guarantee you that this is not Marion 678 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: Barry's response. I guarantee you that he would find courage 679 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: where it's hard. I guarantee you that he would not 680 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: sink into cowardice. And I'm so sad to say, I 681 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: am devastated to say that that is what Mario Bowser 682 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: is doing. Now she can go on air and say, 683 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: y'all don't really understand what this executive order does. Y'all 684 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: aren't clear about what I'm saying here. You know, I 685 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: have to comply with this man because technically they oversee me. 686 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: But I will tell you this sure. Even in slavery, 687 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: there was a tactic to comply with an overseer, but 688 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: there was always a red line in the sand. And 689 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: she better find hers quick because right now we are 690 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: on sinking sand and Tiff the way that you shed 691 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,959 Speaker 1: tears last week on the podcast, there are so many 692 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: people who are experiencing that same heartache, that same trauma, 693 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: that same confusion about where we go from here, And 694 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: if Mariel Bowser is not going to protect the people 695 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: of DC, she is making it so much harder for 696 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: all of those other mayors. I am over the excuse 697 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: about jurisdiction. This is not a jurisdictional fight. This is 698 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: a fight for the soul of this country and is 699 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: a fight against fascism. And if she don't know what 700 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: time it is, looks like so. 701 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 3: That's part of my challenge here, because one to bear 702 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: witness to unmarked cars with men out of uniform rolling 703 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 3: out the car and watching people scatter like this has 704 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 3: taking place behind my building, around my building, to see 705 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: like there are areas, you know, I may have talked 706 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: about this, I can't remember, but it's like old people 707 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: just hanging out on the corner, you know, in the 708 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 3: public housing area that's right next to my building, and 709 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 3: people will just sit out there all day long, like 710 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 3: in their sixties, this longtime residence of DC, who lived 711 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 3: in this area, long before it was cool to live here, Okay, 712 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 3: long before it became the hot spot, long before it 713 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 3: became a hot spot for gentrifiers. There's like a little 714 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 3: old dude in a wheelchair with a cute little pitfull 715 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 3: who sells Lucy's, you know, and all those people are gone. 716 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 3: It's disrupting community. And to bear witness to that happening 717 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 3: in real time, where you see people getting snatched, where 718 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: you see people like it's just changing the culture of 719 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 3: DC is really heartbreaking. And I wonder for the mayor 720 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 3: of where her moral code is, because this is the 721 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 3: question that I have for anybody who is confronting situations 722 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: like this one. We have no evidence of capitulating to 723 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 3: Donald Trump gaining you anything. It does not gain you, right, 724 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: So even her doing this, even her making these remarks, 725 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: this doesn't mean that next week kills us decide I 726 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: want to take over DC. We're removing the mayor. You know, 727 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 3: all these rules and processes are pixie deaths. So we're 728 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 3: done with her. So a pardon me feels like has 729 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 3: she gone in that microphone and told Donald Trump he 730 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 3: could kiss her natural black ass and this is what 731 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 3: we're gonna do in DC. The end rest result may 732 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 3: have been the same. So if the end result is 733 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 3: typically going to be the same as it normally is 734 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: with Donald Trump, then why not be a revolution? Why 735 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 3: not stand up and say no, I will hold the line. 736 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 3: You may take my position of power, but you will 737 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 3: not take my power as a black woman in this moment. 738 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: So it's disappointing, and I hope people seeing this because 739 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 3: one of the remarks that the young lady made was congratulations, 740 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 3: Mayor Bouser. You're a fascist too. So for me, I 741 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 3: would rather sacrifice my career on the altar of righteous 742 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 3: indignation around what's happening before I would cling to it 743 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 3: in favor of appeasing this white supremacist who is enacting 744 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,240 Speaker 3: policies that we as black people know all too well 745 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 3: from enslavement from slave catchers, from post reconstruction, from Jim 746 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 3: Crow from the eighties and nineties, to mandatory minimums, in 747 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 3: all the ways that we've always been in sneel in 748 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 3: systems like this. So it's disappointing and I am fighting 749 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: the depression that comes from that, from seeing people lay 750 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: down and roll over. I don't have that. I don't 751 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 3: have that spirit in me. I don't think I ever will. 752 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 3: But it's sad. 753 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 4: You were made of things, yeah. 754 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 3: And I am so pleased to be with two people 755 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 3: who don't have that spirit either. 756 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 4: But you know what to I was just gonna say, 757 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 4: it's also because because you know, you don't always have 758 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 4: to be made of sterner things, Sometimes that sterner things 759 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 4: just flow through you because somebody has done it before you. Yeah, right, 760 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 4: I remember just thinking in so many instances, like you 761 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 4: know what, others have survived this, Others have pushed through this, 762 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 4: others have come to the other side, and now I 763 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 4: can see a little bit more than maybe what they 764 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 4: could at the time. But with everything you said, I 765 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 4: want to dittle it and just also at at the 766 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 4: end where you were going, which is this is the 767 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: last thing the people of DC need at this moment 768 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 4: is to feel like they are being left again to 769 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 4: Trump and his minion's own devices, with no protection at 770 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 4: their back, yeh, at their front, at their side. They're 771 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 4: looking and they can't find it in their government. And 772 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 4: that's a goddamn shame for a place that voted overwhelmingly 773 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 4: for Joe Biden, and better than that, for a community 774 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 4: of people who get there, who get stepped on every 775 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 4: single day as the community. And now they want to 776 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 4: add one more name to the list of enemies of 777 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 4: who they are there, who they are, where they come from, 778 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 4: where they live, the place that they love, and that's 779 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 4: the mayor of that city. And that's a damn shame. 780 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: I I'm sorry, I'll be really clear. Yeah some you know, 781 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 3: y'all know I'm staying in the comments. So I look 782 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 3: at the comments on YouTube especially, and sometimes I have 783 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 3: to go back and think, like, well, what do they say? 784 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 3: And a lot of people were saying, oh, you know, Andrew, 785 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 3: you were preaching today, and Andrew. We love you, and Andrew, 786 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 3: we still need you in Florida. Andrew, please run again. 787 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 3: You know you are. Please get that. And when I 788 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 3: sit here and look at this and I'm just looking 789 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 3: at y'all on my screen sadly because we're not in person. 790 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 3: We all here doing this podcast like it's COVID. But 791 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here looking at y'all. 792 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: Way, our bank account is. 793 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 3: Got COVID. 794 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 1: But I think I. 795 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 3: Know like they when you were running after the Santa's, 796 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 3: the stupid or whatever seized control of Florida, Like at 797 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 3: every single point, they were throwing everything at you, and 798 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 3: never once, never once did you say, Okay, I'm gonna 799 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 3: come out and make a statement that the Santa's is 800 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,280 Speaker 3: the best person ever. I'm gonna come out and indoors 801 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: trump you were. It may have been hard for you, 802 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 3: but you held your ground. You were like, I'm gonna 803 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: fight because you too would rather fight to the death 804 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 3: before you laid down and let these people destroy you. 805 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 3: And as a result, the people of Florida are still 806 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 3: ten toes down. All of every comment all and I 807 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 3: read them, every comment all the time is in staunch 808 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 3: support of something you said, something you did, like the 809 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 3: people believe you, and that kind of trust means something 810 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: to you. If you were to ever coupitulate, you would 811 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 3: lose that and I think all of us have that 812 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 3: you couldn't pay me if somebody said, oh, did y'all 813 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 3: see Angela Rye, She she is maden. Now, you couldn't 814 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 3: pay me to believe it. I'm like, that's a ain't right. 815 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 3: So when I'm in the trenches with people like y'all, 816 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 3: it makes me look at people who ain't got that 817 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 3: kind of grit sideways. 818 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 5: That's real. 819 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 3: Hello, because I'm pregnant and there's thief about to beat 820 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 3: my ass. If you have been under a rock, then 821 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 3: you don't know what I'm talking about. But if you've 822 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 3: been glusing the screens like the rest of us, we're 823 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 3: getting into that on the other side of this break. 824 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 3: Stay tuned. 825 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell y'all in the land of the 826 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: upside down and sadly, I'm gonna confess this now and 827 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: backwards shirts, there are some people who are standing ten 828 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: toes down Tiff and twelve of them unanimously the ten 829 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: toes down. In the Cardi b trial this week, she 830 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 1: was accused of assault and battery uh and of allegedly 831 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: scratching a security guard in the face and spitting on her, 832 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: and the jury reached this verdict. 833 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 13: They go through. 834 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 5: Each one each of the jerks unanimous. 835 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, so Cardi b there can breathe a 836 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 6: sigh of relief, complete and total victory. The jury finding unanimously. 837 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 6: They didn't have to find it unanimously. Only nine out 838 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 6: of twelve needed in a civil trial on all four counts, 839 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 6: the assault count, the extreme emotional distress count, negligence, and 840 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 6: also on the issue of punitive damages finding favor of 841 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 6: Cardi Bige. 842 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: And I also think it's important for people to hear 843 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: just a little bit of the testimony from the alleged victim. 844 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 4: When you were at the building and. 845 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: Party B exited to elevate on February twenty. 846 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 5: Four, eighteen. 847 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 13: What these What were the words that she used that 848 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 13: were so hurtful. 849 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 16: She used a lot of words, and again, excuse my language, 850 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 16: but she was like, bitch, that's why I'm gonna beat 851 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 16: your I'm gonna get you fired. 852 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: That's why you do security. 853 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 16: Aha, that's why you do security. 854 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:49,800 Speaker 10: Ah. 855 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 16: She was sticking her tongue out, she was flailing her 856 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 16: arms up and down, she was jumping up and down, 857 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 16: body shaming me. I mean, racial slurs. 858 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 10: Just a lot. 859 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: So that is the testimony from the alleged victim she 860 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: sounds very triggered. Let's listen to Cardi B's highlight reel 861 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 1: from this trout. 862 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 2: Do you prefer calling you miss Almonds? 863 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 5: Ar Cardi B? 864 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 10: Or it doesn't that mean? 865 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 13: Did you can call you mc cardy. 866 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 12: I was a little like, I don't want a guy 867 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 12: that I work with to know I'm going to a 868 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 12: vagina doctor. 869 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 3: You're following me, you're recording me. I'm just trying to 870 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 3: check my cat. 871 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 15: Are we having a verbal altercation? 872 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 3: We haven't. 873 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 14: We'll say a debate. 874 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 4: Which one is your real? 875 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 16: Here? 876 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 5: Are they both? 877 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 10: Really? 878 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 12: They're wigs? 879 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 15: Because I'm pregnant and this girl's about to beat my ass? 880 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 17: Hello? 881 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, I'm here. 882 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 3: I was looking at her face, but I wasn't looking like. 883 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 10: She like bimple thing she loved? 884 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 13: Who was that? 885 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 3: I said, that's like out of here, just trying to 886 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 3: get some money? 887 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 5: Who who's trying to get some money? 888 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 16: She is? 889 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 10: How do you know that? 890 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 5: Because she sawing me for twenty five million, twenty four 891 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 5: million dollars? 892 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 4: You said she's bigger than you, exact right? 893 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 12: I absolutely how do you know that? I mean, look, 894 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 12: I mean you you have a you have a medical record. 895 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,959 Speaker 16: I don't have anything. I don't answer either question. 896 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 5: I mean I was a hundred and thirty pounds at that. 897 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 10: Time, So she's overweight, right in your opinion objection? 898 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 4: You know my thin small, you don't be fancy, Okay. 899 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: So Cardi being. 900 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: Una her say if we can Nick keeping part where 901 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 3: she says she's security heavy. 902 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 17: Because I think they could before that part is a 903 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 17: highlight where she says that if I can find it, 904 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 17: I'll send it to you Nick, because security heavy is 905 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 17: the best thing ever. 906 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 3: She's like, she's security heavy building. 907 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 4: I love Cardi b Man. I loved her since she 908 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 4: did that damn video about health care yes and then 909 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 4: taking health care away and she's just trying to go 910 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 4: and get her checked. 911 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 912 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 4: I didn't say the said. 913 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: Ok she said, that's not. 914 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 3: You're talking about. She said the words, I just want 915 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 3: to go get health care video. Yeah, about to try 916 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 3: shut down. 917 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 4: She kept it the realest saying she was like, we 918 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 4: can't even go get doctor. We're just trying to go 919 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 4: get up and checked. I was like this this woman, 920 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 4: please put her on because she's she's like people be 921 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 4: trying her. She's like heavyweight smart. 922 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 3: I was watching she is clever, thinking like, why is 923 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 3: Cardi b rapping? Like you we need this level of 924 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 3: because she was very strategic, like they were. First of all, 925 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 3: if the if the the lawyer for the plaintiffs, if 926 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 3: he's a lawyer, then I'm a lawyer. Because this was 927 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 3: one I didn't watch enough. So the Law and Order 928 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 3: SBU you to know your questions are terrible, sir. And 929 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 3: he what he was trying to do was pigeonhole her 930 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 3: and try to say she's not black. So he's like, 931 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 3: what is your background? You African American? And she was 932 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 3: like Afro Caribbean. But she was ten steps ahead of 933 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 3: him at every time. She was so smart, so strategic, 934 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 3: and he did not appear to have preppt his witness 935 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 3: because she her testimony was not consistent. 936 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 4: She had said that she could do well. 937 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 3: She said something different in the immediate on camera interview 938 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 3: than what she was saying on the stand. They were 939 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 3: planning this for her. You could tell that she was 940 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 3: just like kind of making up things and this idea 941 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 3: that you had to get plastic surgery because her nail 942 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 3: scratched to you. Now, unfortunately, this week when they announced 943 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 3: the verdict, card and a reporter asked Cardi B about 944 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 3: fraternity issue. She threw a pin at him. So I 945 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 3: do want our sister Cardi B to just be conscious 946 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 3: and not put herself in those positions. But the reporter 947 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 3: was like, I love her, I would never see her. 948 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 3: But I just I'm a fan of Cardi B. I 949 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 3: think I'm gonna get her her album and either drama. 950 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 3: This could not have been better publicity and shout out 951 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 3: to tubby Sean Holliday, who was standing right by her 952 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 3: side after the trial. Sean Holliday is a longtime music 953 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 3: executive and Wheeler High School. He went to wheel We 954 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 3: went to high school together in Atlanta. 955 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 4: So shout them out, aliens. 956 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 3: Yea answer, what is you? 957 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a lawyer? 958 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 3: What did what did you think of all of it? 959 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't watch the whole trial. I watched clips 960 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: on social media. I felt like they were going to 961 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: have a really hard time proving the case, in part 962 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: because I agree with you the questions coming from the 963 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: plaintiffs attorney were I don't know if he was trying 964 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 1: to think he was dumbing down to talk to Cardi B. 965 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: But it was not smart and she got him. I 966 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: think that she got him in lots of ways, and 967 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: she knew when not to answer the questions. She would 968 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: pause and wait. I think very calculated. And I also 969 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: think this case is nonsense when you get to the 970 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: closing argument, and your closing argument is about what just 971 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 1: happened outside with the reporter, and you're and you also 972 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: are saying, well, at least, if y'all not gonna give 973 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 1: all the millions, at least give a seventeen thousand dollars 974 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: for a face. And if you're not gonna do that, 975 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: at least give up ten more. I mean, it was ridiculous. 976 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 1: What it was really bad? It was. It was not 977 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 1: well thought out or very strategic. And I think that 978 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people, particularly just so you all know, 979 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: from a venue standpoint, this was taking place in l A. 980 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: So jurors in l A. People in l A are 981 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: very used to the shakedown civil suits, and I think 982 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: that people saw this for exactly what it was. 983 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 4: So had the jury. Yes, from like jump, she had 984 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 4: the jury. I mean the people. It was very clear 985 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 4: she was endearing that you could like her, and in fact, 986 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 4: if we were ever engineering, I would ask her like, 987 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 4: how do you keep the authenticity? I just feel like 988 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 4: whatever when she says it, and she says a thing 989 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 4: she like, means a thing fully and if she tempers 990 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 4: around it, come. 991 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: On on the weekend we can ask Leonard. Leonard and 992 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: Cardi B are very cool. 993 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 3: So Cardi B on the podcast. I would love to 994 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 3: hear from her. 995 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 4: Lol. 996 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 3: Can you reach out Z? Can you book Gardy for 997 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,240 Speaker 3: next week on this podcast? 998 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: Well, and speaking of calls to action, I think we 999 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 1: could definitely jump into. 1000 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,919 Speaker 4: Ours Cardi Carti Cardy. 1001 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: All right, so let's go ahead and jump into our 1002 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: calls action, which y'all got this week. 1003 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 3: Well, my first one is to Cardi B. And we 1004 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 3: would love to have you come on the podcast. You 1005 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 3: don't even have to talk about the trial if you 1006 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 3: don't one, I'd be interested in her thoughts and just 1007 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 3: what is happening in the world in general. 1008 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1009 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 3: Right, I would love to hear from her on that 1010 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 3: I'm sneaking and getting too. That was my first call 1011 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 3: to action on my sal. 1012 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 4: I'll take your first one, okay. 1013 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 3: My second call to action is be aware and be vigilant, 1014 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 3: Like I really do think we have to brace ourselves 1015 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,839 Speaker 3: for what's coming. I think I may upset in one 1016 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 3: of our group chats Angela debt. I thought this was 1017 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 3: like a show of force that was gonna go away, 1018 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,240 Speaker 3: and it very much. It seems like it's the beginning 1019 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 3: of something. And just every day I see something new 1020 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 3: that's like, wow, I can't believe this is what we're 1021 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 3: experiencing right now. As black folks, we've been through a lot. 1022 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 3: I did not imagine we would be going back this 1023 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 3: far in our civil rights being rolled away in just 1024 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 3: you know, the acceptance that the Constitution, our laws, our rules, 1025 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 3: our social norms and more rays they are all literally 1026 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 3: just pixied us that can just go away. So I 1027 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 3: invite people to brace yourselves, to be vigilant. Take it seriously. 1028 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 3: I've had friends like, oh, they're not going to bother 1029 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 3: my son. He goes to Gonzaga, he's in private school. 1030 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 3: And it's like, I can guarantee you they're not gonna 1031 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 3: look at your son and say, oh that's Sarah and 1032 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 3: john Son. He's okay, Like it doesn't matter. You're you're 1033 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 3: in danger, your kids are in danger. So America is 1034 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 3: in danger, girl, So be vigilant. 1035 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Thanks car b Okay, So I don't know I 1036 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: got that and us CARDI B you got it, Okay, Lenard, 1037 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: get on it. I think mine is. You know, in 1038 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: this moment where we are drinking from a fire hose, 1039 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: is Tiff just noted our civil rights have been rolled back. 1040 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: I think we expected some of that, but certainly not 1041 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: at this pace. It's a neck breaking pace. As someone 1042 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: who is battling high blood pressure and has not taken 1043 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: the time to work out, I encourage you all to prioritize, 1044 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 1: even if it's just an hour a day, be accountable 1045 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,919 Speaker 1: with me, holp me accountable to it, to take care 1046 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: of yourself. And I think the other thing that's really important. 1047 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: I think I've been spending a lot of time being 1048 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: reflective of how precious life is. Our good sister friend 1049 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 1: Carrie Champion recently lost her grandmother and shared with us 1050 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 1: and on her podcast Naked with Carrie Champion, I hope 1051 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: you all will tune into that as well. On iHeart, 1052 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: she talked about how much her grandmother meant to her. 1053 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: The fact that she's in sports now is because of 1054 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: her grandmother, who played basketball and has argued that she 1055 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: made up the three point of herself. But as we 1056 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: as we mourn the loss of loved ones, whether it 1057 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 1: is recent or it is further away. I think it's 1058 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: take the time to feel your feelings for grief, whether 1059 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 1: it comes in the form of mourning the loss of 1060 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: someone dear to you, or you're mourning the loss of 1061 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: a country you once thought you knew, whatever it is, 1062 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: take the time to feel your feelings. Ride the wave 1063 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: because you cannot control that wave. That is one thing 1064 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: that you have to surrender to. And if you need support, 1065 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 1: definitely see a therapist. And finally, please remember everybody to 1066 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 1: check your tags and not put your clothes on backwards. 1067 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: I just don't know what happened this morning. It's scratching 1068 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: my chest. I was like, you know what, and I 1069 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 1: said I. I was like, it's sitting up kind of high. 1070 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Don't put your clotheswards. We got enough 1071 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: backwards forward. 1072 00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 4: Opposite. 1073 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: I did not mean to be criss cross today, but 1074 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: jump jump, bring back. 1075 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 3: Everything is retro. What you said workout for an hour 1076 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 3: a day? May I ask what are you doing or 1077 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 3: what are you planning to do for your one hour workout? 1078 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? So I used to love getting on my peloton. 1079 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna get back on the peloton, especially 1080 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: because it felt like church on the bike. I really 1081 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: missed my Angela Manuel Davis's classes. I went to church 1082 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: on the bike is a good thing, Yes, I would. Yeah, 1083 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: So peloton is not like Angela Manuel Davis, but yes 1084 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: to if you are right, it's so different, But I 1085 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: would do that again. And I'm thinking about variety and workouts. 1086 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: I need to not feel like I'm in monotony for 1087 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: me to be excited about it. I definitely need to 1088 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: do more yoga because I know my breath work. I 1089 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: need to work on my breath work. So yeah, those 1090 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: are the things that I'm thinking of right now, and 1091 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with twenty minutes. I'm gonna try to 1092 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: get on that peloton today because right now, sister girl 1093 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: is putting on these pounds like drop it in whatever 1094 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: whatever it is years And this is the other thing. 1095 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it matters how you feel about yourself. So 1096 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 3: I definitely honor what you're saying. But Angela is so tiny, 1097 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 3: and I feel like you're comparing yourself to like ten 1098 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 3: years ago. I'm like you. 1099 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: People, I'm comparing myself to the clothes I can't fit. 1100 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I nobody's gonna sae be like she's overweight, like 1101 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 3: she is so so tiny. But I do hear you, 1102 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 3: and it's about health, you know, not just wait, so 1103 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 3: we should all take. 1104 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Care about business. 1105 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 3: But you you definitely even pick. 1106 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 1: My blood pressure, you like, argue with my blood pressure. 1107 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, blood pressure or definitely healthy. 1108 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Argue with my blood pressure on my clothes. 1109 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1110 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: But I've been getting all thy labs. Also. This is 1111 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: my last thing on health today because I didn't mean 1112 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: to do a whole health mini pot and I know 1113 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: we over but I will say this too. I used it. 1114 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the name of the service until 1115 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: they sponsored the podcast, but I use this service. I'll 1116 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: tell y'all offline that is very very thorough. You can 1117 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: get all your labs done, like blood work for each organ, 1118 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: and then they give you clinical notes about each of 1119 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 1: these areas, very very thorough. And what I love about 1120 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: it now is there's also a cancer screening where I've 1121 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,640 Speaker 1: been told because cancer runs in my family, my mom, 1122 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: of course, I'm dealing with it now, like check. So 1123 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting my mammogram next week, a Colonosco by the 1124 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: week after that, and I'm getting all these labs. They're costly, 1125 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,439 Speaker 1: but it is so much cheaper than your hospital bill 1126 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 1: if you have to fight cancer. So I'm here for y'all. 1127 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get better. 1128 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 3: I love that we all need to yes, And if 1129 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 3: you like what you heard today, share with a friends 1130 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 3: please so we could be in the person so account 1131 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 3: can get off COVID. 1132 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 6: That is so true. 1133 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 1: So as always, we want to remind everyone to leave 1134 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: us a review and subscribe to Native Lampard. We're available 1135 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: on all podcast platforms and YouTube. If you're looking for 1136 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: more shows like ours, check out the other shows on 1137 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: our recent choice media networks, Politics with Jamel Hill, Off 1138 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the Cup with Si Cupp, and our newest edition, Now 1139 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: You Know with thirteen year old Noah de Barrasso. Be 1140 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: sure to give those a follow, and don't forget to 1141 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,919 Speaker 1: follow us too on social media. Also fan based little 1142 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: teaser for something that's coming up, and subscribe to our 1143 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: text or email list on Native landpod dot com. We 1144 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: are your hosts. I'm Angela Ride, There's Tiffany Cross, and 1145 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: that's Andrew Gillim. Welcome home, y'all. There are four hundred 1146 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and twenty five days until midterm election before we go. 1147 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 3: Can I ask what are we talking about? On the 1148 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 3: Mini Pod. 1149 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Yes, what are we talking about? Andrew? Would you like 1150 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: to tell the audience we're talking about on the Mini 1151 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Pod today? 1152 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 4: I don't know what we're talking about which I want 1153 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 4: to talk about. 1154 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 3: I think we are talking about social media. I thought 1155 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 3: we had Isaac Kayes, who was gonna come. 1156 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 4: On, well, I'm gonna have to be learning a lot. 1157 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 3: Yes, but I think it's more than media. I want, like, 1158 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 3: I know, I want to talk about like platforms. A 1159 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,919 Speaker 3: lot of people off Twitter, and I remember Angela making 1160 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 3: the point like, okay, but if you're getting off Twitter 1161 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 3: but you're still on Facebook, like basically all these tech 1162 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 3: roles are problematic. So anyway, I want to I want 1163 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 3: to get into that. Oh, and Lolo has popped into something. 1164 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna we're gonna wrap Lo something. She 1165 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: back off. It was like she was like, I'm just 1166 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: making sure y'all know I'm here. 1167 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 3: Hey bo, hell I look you today. So I just 1168 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 3: want to say, was that anyway? I interrupted our closing 1169 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 3: because I wanted to know what we're talking about on 1170 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 3: the Minion pots on my bad. 1171 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, we are going to be talking with Isaac 1172 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,919 Speaker 1: Cayes and to Misha Harris I believe it's her name, 1173 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: who is a producer and they recently had a conversation 1174 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: on the importance of us utilizing our own black owned platforms, 1175 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: and as you all know, we recently had a conversation 1176 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: about how we should engage from a listener question that challenge. 1177 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: So we are going to definitely get into that and 1178 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,919 Speaker 1: so much more on our mini pod. You can also 1179 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: check out our solo pods and I will tell y'all. 1180 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Native lamppod is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership 1181 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: with the Reason Choice Media. 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