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Speaker 1: game time. Hi everybody, and welcome in. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Green Bay Packers, a seventeen point come

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Speaker 1: from behind win. I don't think Jordan Love's great. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if he's even very good. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if he's good. He was twenty two to forty four.

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Speaker 1: Some drop passes, some really bad throws, but it's the

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Speaker 1: largest comeback in Packers history. I said this about Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Some guys are great when it's all set up, when

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Speaker 1: they play close, so they play with the lead. I

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Speaker 1: always said the body language for Aaron Rodgers. If he

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Speaker 1: got behind big, he changed the way he played. He

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Speaker 1: just wanted to protect his passer rating. Whether that's true

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Speaker 1: eight years or longer than Aaron Rodgers. So Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: trails seventeen to nothing, but he's got that young, naive,

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Speaker 1: teammates pick up on that. Now, did he get a break?

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr got hurt. Yes, he got a break. Lots

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Speaker 1: and lots of breaks happen in football games. I mean,

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Speaker 1: good God, if you watch the Vikings Chargers, each team

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Speaker 1: about breaks and opportunities. Jordan Love got an opportunity full

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Speaker 1: steam ahead, head down, optimistic, positive body language, positive energy,

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Speaker 1: and came back to win. If Derek Carr doesn't get hurt,

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Speaker 1: they don't win that football game. Derek moves the chains,

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston comes in. He's going to be more three

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Speaker 1: and outs, more mistakes. Now, the Saints could have won

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Speaker 1: it with a field goal, but again they didn't. But

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Speaker 1: my takeaway and Jordan Love, I don't know what he is.

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Speaker 1: He's young. I said, I want Thanksgivings the time. He's

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Speaker 1: been sitting for three years. Give me to Thanksgiving. I'll

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Speaker 1: have a strong, more definitive opinion. He missed some easy

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Speaker 1: things today. He looked a little rattled today. But the

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Speaker 1: Packers have always done a really good job of drafting, developing,

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Speaker 1: avoiding chaos. They don't they can't get top free agents,

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Speaker 1: but in a weird way, it helps them. You never

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Speaker 1: have to deal with, you know, outside of a farvar

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Speaker 1: nonsense in Green Bay, right. You kind of know what

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Speaker 1: you have. You never feel like you have the most

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Speaker 1: like the fact that Jordan Love biggest comeback in Packer history, positive, optimistic,

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Speaker 1: keep grinding These games last forever. I mean, good God,

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Speaker 1: the Jets didn't do anything all day and almost won

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Speaker 1: the game in a hail Mary. Just stay keep moving,

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Speaker 1: keep grinding, keep getting first downs. Sometimes it's just a

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Speaker 1: game of attrition. And the Packers win a game they

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Speaker 1: When you're young, especially when you're young, these wins feel

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Speaker 1: the next game. That optimism. They get into that locker

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Speaker 1: That's a big, big win for the Packers. So the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins drop by seventy. Burger beat the Broncos seventy to twenty.

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Speaker 1: feels like to give up seventy points, like Miami's really good.

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Speaker 1: But seventy to twenty feels like there's locker room issues.

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Speaker 1: And I always thought this was a big lift for

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. He had to change the culture, the old

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Speaker 1: This sounds crazy, but I wouldn't be shocked if eventually

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Speaker 1: by four or five different ex teammates. I've never seen

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Speaker 1: When he left Green Bay, Russell got tagged by about

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Speaker 1: six four five six guys, and so I don't know

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Speaker 1: lost today. It's not that. Seventy to twenty feels like.

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Speaker 1: It's much much deeper than that. It's a cultural issue.

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Speaker 1: It's a locker room issue, it's a quitting issue, much

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Speaker 1: deeper problems. And Sean Payton's gonna win this thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton coaches can coach to their seventy Belichick still

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Speaker 1: puts up great defensive game plans. He's gonna win this battle.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they're going to get out of

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Speaker 1: this contract. They're gonna have to draft another quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think they clearly will. Who would have thought in a

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Speaker 1: out of this Russell Wilson thing if it doesn't work

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Speaker 1: pay him for four to five years. That's your only hope.

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Speaker 1: And then eventually if it doesn't work this year, I'm

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Speaker 1: not even sure if Russell Wilson would be on the roster.

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Speaker 1: You just move him. But I mean, that sounds like hyperbolic.

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Speaker 1: This is not This is going to be a personality

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Speaker 1: clash between Peyton and Russell Wilson, and Peyton's gonna win it.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's gonna win this. It's not going to be close.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance that if the Chargers

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Speaker 1: getting tremendous pressure on Kirk Cousins. Punt it, make them

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley decides, I'm going to go for it deepen

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Speaker 1: and an interception retains Brandon Staley's job. I think that's

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Speaker 1: how close it is, you know. Once again, Herbert puts

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out. But I think this is

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Speaker 2: And he tied himself immediately to Jimmy Garoppolo. Who listen,

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Speaker 2: But he was viewed as just an excellent scommat x's

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels so creative and clever with Miami and Shanahan

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Speaker 1: Really he hasn't really added to it. It's the same

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Speaker 2: Why he's the best defensive coordinator in the market. They

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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan had never worked with Steve Wilks. You gotta

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Speaker 2: which ultimately at that point in time they were gonna

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Speaker 2: they probably weren't gonna win anyway, But that's kind of him,

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Speaker 2: you know, Cousins does like you said the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And this is where I get back to to not

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Speaker 2: have just whether it's a zone red play, the Dak

427
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Speaker 2: can get a walk in. Jordan Love had that play

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Speaker 2: today on the goal line where he scored touchdown that

429
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Speaker 2: kind of you know, got the momentum back for them.

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Speaker 2: It feels like sometimes McCarthy's just kind of banging his

431
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Speaker 2: head against the wall and listen, I thought Dallas was

432
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Speaker 2: a legitimate Super Bowl contender. You watch games like today,

433
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Speaker 2: the coach and the quarterback. Man, if they're not, you're

434
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Speaker 2: going to have to beat some really good offensive play

435
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Speaker 2: callers and some really good quarterbacks. And McCarthy, man, there's

436
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Speaker 2: a reason he didn't win a lot of those NFC

437
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Speaker 2: championship games. It's not like they went to four Super

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Speaker 2: Bowls and only won the one with Aaron Right. They

439
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Speaker 2: went to five NFC Championship games, and beside the one

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Speaker 2: they won, they never won any of those games.

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Speaker 1: the things that is really interesting, Jimmy Johnson was really

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Speaker 1: outspoken about Brandon Staley and if you watch, I watched

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Speaker 1: every second of that game. Both those teams were trying

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Speaker 1: to give that game away the Chargers outside of Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 1: and maybe that there's a safety for Minnesota who's really

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Speaker 1: good the Notre Dame Guide's been in the league for years.

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Speaker 2: Harrison Smith.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Chargers have better players all of the field.

466
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Speaker 1: It's not even debatable, better old line, better pass rush,

467
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Speaker 1: just have better roster. But what was remarkable about Brandon

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Speaker 1: Staley going for it on fourth down at the twenty

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Speaker 1: four is it Minnesota Number one had no timeouts left,

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Speaker 1: had struggled to block increasingly in that game, struggled to

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Speaker 1: block the Chargers front. So no timeouts, you punt it.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they fair catch it at the thirty thirty five.

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Speaker 1: They need a touchdown to win. They have no timeouts left,

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Speaker 1: and the pressure has increased on Kirk Cousins, who's not

475
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Speaker 1: a big throw the ball down the field, not a

476
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Speaker 1: deep ball thrower anyway, And they really had abandoned a

477
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Speaker 1: lot of that because they just didn't have time to

478
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Speaker 1: set up for that. They couldn't get the protection. And

479
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: he goes for it, and then not only does he

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Speaker 1: go for it, the worst skill player on the field

481
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Speaker 1: is the guy who gets the ball, the backup running

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Speaker 1: back because Austin Ecker didn't play. And I'm like, what timeout?

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Speaker 1: That wasn't a tough one, no timeouts. I mean, you're

484
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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, you're getting great pass rush and they

485
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Speaker 1: can't call a timeout. They have to get into the

486
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Speaker 1: end zone. I thought it was almost a fireable. I thought,

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Speaker 1: if they lost that game, you could fire him flying

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Speaker 1: back home. Now that is am I overreacting to that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought if they lost the game when today started,

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Speaker 2: before the ball even kicked off. I don't see how

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Speaker 2: you didn't fire him. Now, I'm not shocked at him

492
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Speaker 2: going for it. This is what he's been doing for

493
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Speaker 2: two and a half years. Like he's gone for it

494
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Speaker 2: in insane time. Remember a couple of years ago against

495
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Speaker 2: the Raiders, he went forward like I think at the

496
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Speaker 2: twenty yard line, not even at the twenty four. Now,

497
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 2: it was earlier in the game. But I also think

498
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: when you talk to people around the league, these owners

499
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: and a lot of gms, and you know t LESCo

500
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: are very numbers driven and are very pro the quote

501
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: unquote go for it or Historically that was never the

502
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 2: case in football. It was much more conservative, always punted

503
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: and played defense. Which is that tide has clearly shifted

504
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: to me, like he's gonna go for it. He's been

505
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 2: doing stupid shit his entire tenure as the Charger coach.

506
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Speaker 2: It's more just about the way the defense looks. They

507
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: look like a really good big twelve team. They can

508
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Speaker 2: score on anybody, can't stop a soul. You're talking gaping holes, Colin,

509
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Where is everybody? Does anyone know what's going on on defense?

510
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: It happened a lot for Lincoln at Oklahoma forever. It's

511
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Speaker 2: like we're not on the same page here.

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00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: The Chargers are returning all their starters. Now they have

513
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: the kid from us see the rush in, but essentially

514
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Speaker 1: it's the same starting group and there's they're a bad

515
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: third and long defense. It's like, guys, So they didn't

516
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: play j. C. Jackson today, And my takeaway was, when

517
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: you play the Vikings, you can't let Justin Jefferson get

518
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Speaker 1: over the top. And J. C. Jackson just doesn't have

519
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: He's not football smart. I don't know him personally, he's

520
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: not football smart. It's why, by the way, it's why

521
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Speaker 1: Belichick let him go. And Belichick just gave up on him.

522
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Speaker 1: You know, say what you want about Belichick on offense,

523
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 1: you almost never beat New England over the top. And

524
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Speaker 1: so the Chargers didn't play him. And my take is

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00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: he's just not football smart, like he just is in

526
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Speaker 1: the wrong spot. He bites on anything. And so they said,

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Speaker 1: if Justin Jefferson doesn't meet us over the top, we're

528
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Speaker 1: gonna sit J. C. Jackson and we'll just keep everything

529
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: in front and Kirk has to drive. And by the way,

530
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: it mostly is effective against Kirk. That's a heavy penalized team.

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00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,479
Speaker 1: It's a heavy turnover team. The game plan was solid.

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00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: There was at least two moments, could have been three

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Speaker 1: where they stopped where they bailed the vikings out with

534
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: defensive penalties Like I'm second and twenty third and fifteen.

535
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: You're like, guys, there's a lot of veterans on this field.

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00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: This is just defensive coach returning starters, guys that have

537
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Speaker 1: been around multiple undisciplined penalties.

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Speaker 2: I I, and I like you could justify firing them.

539
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: I think even with the win, like, where's this going?

540
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: What are we doing? It's the same thing every week,

541
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Speaker 2: win or lose. They always look the same. How often

542
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: does an eight to ten yard completion turn into twenty

543
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: seven yards? You know, defenders running into each other bad angles,

544
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: and they get so many explosive plays. That is a

545
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: pretty basic seven yard you know, slant route that goes

546
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Speaker 2: another twenty six yards. That's why they were able to

547
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Speaker 2: constantly get back into the game because they can't tackle

548
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: a soul. The defensive backs now for two and a

549
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: half years, never feel like they know where they're supposed

550
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: to be. Ever, like you say, JC Jackson, they just

551
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: waved the white flag on that one they said, all

552
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Speaker 2: this money whatever, healthy and active. Yeah, but the guys

553
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Speaker 2: that were out there today, And this is what I

554
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: think people are so critical of him that he's a

555
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Speaker 2: defensive head coach. He's really when you're a defensive coordinator,

556
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: you're in charge of the coverages, like that's the most

557
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: important thing, right, the coverages against you know, and clearly

558
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: the coverages he's calling, his players do not know how

559
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: that he wants them to execute it because they're all

560
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: over the map on any given call, Guys out of position,

561
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: guys wide open. It does look like a college team

562
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Speaker 2: that is having to win, you know, on a weekly basis.

563
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: Forty eight to forty five, that's kind of the way

564
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: they have to play. But in the NFL that's very

565
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: difficult because you're margin feir so small offense, you're going

566
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: to screw up sometimes. I mean, he was forty to

567
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: forty seven today. Now he got lucky on the one

568
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: touchdown that could have been a pick. But he is

569
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: playing really, really well, and I know that sometimes it

570
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: gets pushed back, why don't you win more? If you

571
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: just watch the Chargers play, you will understand why he

572
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Speaker 2: just doesn't quote unquote win more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he basically without Austin Eckler, they have

574
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: no run games. So it's a short passing game. And

575
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a quarterback in the league maybe

576
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Speaker 1: Mahomes who is better on the catch it. Throw it

577
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Speaker 1: to the perimeter. That's not as easy as it looks. Herbert.

578
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: It is a complete layup. He must have had eighteen

579
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: of those today, maybe twenty five. Catch it, throw it,

580
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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, It doesn't matter. Gerald Everett. By the way,

581
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Speaker 1: that's not a layup for a lot of guys in

582
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Speaker 1: this league. It is a layup for Justin Herbert, just

583
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: out even crossfield throws easy stuff. So pivot to this.

584
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: It's very obvious that, you know, Zach Wilson, he's not

585
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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, and I think we all knew that

586
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: coming into the season. They're gonna punt on him. Think

587
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: I think the Chicago Bears are very likely going to

588
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Speaker 1: have the number one pick, you know, Arizona Josh Dobbs

589
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: as a backup to Kyler. Murray's actually a pretty good

590
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: quarterback room if Kyler. If Kyler's centered and ready to go,

591
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a quarterback room. That would not

592
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Speaker 1: be your issue. I just think, like you said, they're feisty,

593
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: they're fast, they they're competitive at home. They're gonna win

594
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: five or six games. If Kyler comes back, they go

595
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: wins six or seven. Josh Dobbs can certainly make throws.

596
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: You know, good kid in the room, moves well. They'll

597
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: win games justin fields can't play. Like you watch this

598
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: like you can tell how teams defend him. They don't

599
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: think he can play, they don't think he can see

600
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Speaker 1: the field. They don't respect him so much to this

601
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: game is predicated on Coaches will tell you what they

602
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Speaker 1: think of their personnel. They'll also tell you what they

603
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Speaker 1: think of their personnel. And I think Kansas City came

604
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: into this game and said, we're going to be hyper aggressive.

605
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: We don't care we can make mistakes. I watching him today,

606
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm trying to be a good guy,

607
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: right like everybody in the media is trying to be nice.

608
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson came in kind of cocky. It was easy

609
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: to go he can't play. But when a guy comes

610
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Speaker 1: in it's a big city, you know, he doesn't have

611
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Speaker 1: a huge attitude. You see some tools. I thought after

612
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: today I'm like, wow, this is nobody in that building,

613
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: No way. Ryan Poles thinks this is the future, right.

614
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Speaker 2: I think the question is is everyone in major trouble?

615
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: I mean they had a really rough week obviously, the

616
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: situation with their defensive coordinator. The quarterback, like you said,

617
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: he's just he's a bad football player, Like you can't

618
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: not only not franchise. These guys aren't starting quarterbacks. And

619
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Speaker 2: I think you would ask yourself, well, would you want

620
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Speaker 2: him as your backup? Because Joshua Dobbs. Some of these

621
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Speaker 2: guys you see as a backup, like they can function.

622
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: Look at Jordan Love Now, he was a backup for

623
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Speaker 2: a while. He's a functional player. How good they're ceiling is,

624
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but justin fields can't complete passes. At

625
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: one point in time today they were getting destroyed. It

626
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: was in the fourth quarter. He had sixteen pass attempts.

627
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: They don't even trust to throw them. When he said

628
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Speaker 2: this week the coaching comment, which if you watch him

629
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Speaker 2: say it, I don't think he was trying to drive

630
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: a bus over the offensive coordinator, but he was basically admitting,

631
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Speaker 2: like they want me to run a normal NFL offense

632
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Speaker 2: where I go one to two to three, and we

633
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Speaker 2: try to pass like these other teams and I can't

634
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: do it because I turn into a robot and I

635
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: don't know how to function. Part of being a great

636
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: quarterback is kind of blending that instincts with the robotic nature, right,

637
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: because some of these throws you gotta just turn into

638
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: a robot, dump it down for four yards, right and

639
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: think at lightning speed. I mean you're talking less than

640
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: three Mississippis that ball you're firing around, knowing the coverage,

641
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: knowing the hot routes. There's a lot going on. It's

642
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: why most people have no shot to do it. And

643
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: he is completely overwhelmed. I thought his physical tools I

644
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: liked him as a college prospect. They don't translate really

645
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: like to me. His the our motion doesn't feel very smooth.

646
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: Clearly now he's like trying to guide it, but he

647
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: has no clue where the ball's going. They are a mess.

648
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: Calling for as shitty as as Denver was today seventy points,

649
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: you could argue that was even worse. There was a

650
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: moment where Denver was feisty early That game was just

651
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: it was a Taylor Swift party.

652
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's you do get to a point in Chicago,

653
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: and I've said this, some of it's cultural. They don't

654
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: do offense well. They've never had a star quarterback. Al

655
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: Sean Jeffery is their best receiver. They've had very few

656
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: great offensive lines. I mean they it's weird about this,

657
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: John and I. It's almost like every Laker team almost

658
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: that's ever won a title has been flashy, and every

659
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: Celtic team that's ever won has been feisty because Boston's feisty, right,

660
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: and LA's glitzy. Every Detroit team that's been great has

661
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: been tough. Same with Pittsburgh. Like you become your city

662
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: or something, you become the culture around you. In Chicago

663
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: is a Midwest nobs tough, hit in the mouth, you know,

664
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: beer and Bratstown right, Like it's it's my favorite big

665
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: city in the country. But it's just authentic. It's real.

666
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: They love they I can name six great linebackers for

667
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: the Bears. I can't name two good receivers. And so

668
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: they don't do offense well. They don't have a sentence

669
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: for it. They don't. They're not a touchy feely organization.

670
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you can go to Kansas City. It could

671
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: be Lenn Dawson, it's Alex Smith, it's Patrick Mahomes. They

672
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: had Joe Montana. I mean, Kansas City's had like seven

673
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, Green Bays, Bart Start, Brett Fahr, Aaron Rodgers,

674
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Love may make it. They just know how to

675
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: develop quarterbacks. Chicago doesn't. They're still celebrating the eighty five Bears.

676
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: So to come in there, Let's say Kayleb Williams goes there.

677
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't trust this staff, do you?

678
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: I think depending on what comes out about this defensive coordinator.

679
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: And I'm not laying the blame on anything he did

680
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: in his personal life or even if it crossed over

681
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: professionally on Eberflus, Like, these are grown men making millions

682
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: of dollars, But there are moments where you can look

683
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: back and go, that was the beginning of the end,

684
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: and that situation, all the rumors floating him having to resign.

685
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: Clearly people reporting today that it wasn't anything criminal, it

686
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: was inappropriate. It'll be very fascinating as information comes out.

687
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: But Caleb's dad has been on record about the situation

688
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: in the draft, this situation, they have a defensive head

689
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: coach whose defense is it couldn't be any worse. I mean,

690
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: it's as bad as it gets. The staff feels overwhelmed

691
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback, which isn't their fault. I mean, these guys

692
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: didn't draft him, but is getting worse by the week. Yes,

693
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: So the narrative and the negativity surrounding this operation when

694
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: the season ends is gonna be at an all time high, right,

695
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just gonna there's gonna be a lot

696
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: of negativity from every angle. And you just wonder a

697
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: guy that is viewed as this all time great player,

698
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: who's got some strong opinions, and he's got some money

699
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: and his dad's involved. Like, I don't think it's a

700
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: lock that they just don't make a us about this.

701
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: And I had people like DM and me. Do you

702
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: think that they would push the ownership to hire an

703
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: offensive coach. It's kind of hard in football to do

704
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: maneuvering like that. This isn't basketball. But I do think

705
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: that in the next month or two, if I'm the

706
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: owner of the Bears and I've known people that worked there,

707
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: and that place is very old schools, yes, defense very

708
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: people that have worked several places, they're like, it's actually

709
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: much closer to a mom and pop shop for some

710
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: you know organization. Yeah, for five billion that anyone could

711
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: even fathom. Right, they need to do a lot of

712
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: just kind of looking in the mirror and changing. But

713
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: as long as the ownership is the ownership, I don't

714
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: know if things are going to dramatically change, which is sad.

715
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: You know, the ownership went to Bill Pollion. He went

716
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: and got Matt eberflus So. And I don't know much

717
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: about Matt eberflus I have two people that know him,

718
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: like him, nice guy. He inherited. You know, they had

719
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: to move off ropewand Smith, they had to move off

720
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: some defensive players. They're starting over. Then you become very

721
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: beholden to your GM and who he can draft. But

722
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I've thought about the Bears, like where would

723
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: you go if you flushed it and started over? And

724
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley does not want to coach right now? NFL football? Okay,

725
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: So you're like, Okay, the college guy, Ryan Day is

726
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: more served to me. He's more high emotion. He's a

727
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: college coach, not a pro coach. We saw it again

728
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: this week and I like him, but he's raw, raw guy.

729
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: So Kellen Moore, I don't think is ready for Chicago.

730
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: I think he would get the Charger job if Staley

731
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: got fired, So the Chargers wouldn't let him go there.

732
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh would make them probably too uncomfortable.

733
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: Well, Harbaugh is somebody. I Harbaugh would go pro if

734
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams came out. I think it's the perfect time

735
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: now Harball wants control of personnel. So could they do

736
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: a situation like Sean Payton where Sean Payton comes in,

737
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Harball comes in is not the initial GM. They just

738
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: make it work for a year and then I think

739
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: Sean will basically take over some personnel here pretty quick.

740
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: I would agree.

741
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: So, but I I if I was, I just don't

742
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: feel good at it. And I'm not saying Justin Fields

743
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: can play it. Today was just like, by this is bad.

744
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I think I'd start over. I think I would just

745
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: flush it out and start up. Listen. A couple of

746
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: years ago, Ryan Polls to GM drafted VELAs Jones in

747
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: the third round. Wide receiver, USC who transferred to Tennessee

748
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: couldn't play a lick at either place. It's like watch film.

749
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: He couldn't. He couldn't, he couldn't track the ball. He's

750
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: a receiver who couldn't track the ball like I saw

751
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: that pick it. I'm like, Okay, they don't know what

752
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: they're doing.

753
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, I can't get over Week one when Chase Claypool

754
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: did what he did, which was nothing and didn't even try,

755
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: and they got embarrassed and they just didn't cut him

756
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: the next day to kind of draw a line in

757
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: the sand as their organization, this will not be tolerated.

758
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: An Andy Reid, a Pete Carroll, that would never be allowed,

759
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and back. And you've been talking about this

760
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: for a long time. Think about some of the coaches

761
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: right now. Robert salom Was, Zach Wilson, ebra Flus with

762
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, they can do nothing to help that guy

763
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: besides just philosophically be like, run the ball more if

764
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: they can't be in the meeting room coaching them up,

765
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: designing plays. So even when you get into a pinch,

766
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: if you're Sean McVay last year, you can influence Baker

767
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: Mayfield when you pick them up off the scripe because

768
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: you're the guy gonna be working with them, or Kyle Shanner,

769
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: all these Lafleur with Jordan Love, they can work through

770
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: things like you saw today it was not going well.

771
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: Then Lafour's on a knee over with them, Robert Salaz

772
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: just on the sideline as Zach Wilson's running for his

773
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: life skipping balls. He has no Mike Tomlin with Kenny

774
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: Pickett when things go bad, like, what can he actually

775
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: do besides some Ryan day raw Ross beaches. And I'm

776
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: not saying they're not, you know, capable and obviously accomplished

777
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: and know what they're doing leading a group of men,

778
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: But when it gets into the schematics and the coaching

779
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: specifically of that position, these defensive coordinators that are head

780
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: coaches just can't do much beside build some confidence by

781
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: whispering in their ear.

782
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think that's why I think with Chicago,

783
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: I think you kind of burn it down started over.

784
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: I think you go get a Caleb Williams. And I'm

785
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: not saying if Kingsbury would get a second shot. It

786
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: felt like he was a little over his skis, but

787
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: he did get them to the playoffs. And I know

788
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Kingsbury at USC and Caleb have a great relationship and

789
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: he feels like he could he I don't know if

790
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: he'd ever want to go. You know, he to me,

791
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 1: he's either I think Cliff would like to get another

792
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: pro job and I but it's you know, basically, Chicago's

793
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: a cold weather Arizona where you don't trust the ownership,

794
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: you don't trust the front office. You just you're as

795
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: good as your quarterback. But as little confident as I

796
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: have in justin fields, I think there's a lot of

797
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: blame to go around. And to your point, I don't

798
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: think these defensive coordinators can figure it out. I do

799
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: want to want to talk before we go, and I'd

800
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: said this earlier. Yeah, Denver's defense has been a mess

801
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: this year. So obviously not all the blame goes on

802
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. But this is going to be a fascinating

803
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: cultural situation because Russell's never been really popular in the room.

804
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: He's been popular with public media, but not in the room.

805
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: He leaves Seattle, he got dogged by like five guys,

806
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: and so that's big to Sean Payton. I know Sean

807
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: well enough. In the room is what he really cares about.

808
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: That's why he said those things stop kissing babies? Mean,

809
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: who gives a shit what anybody outside the room thinks?

810
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: Win the room over I wonder if Sean Payton has

811
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: already made a decision like I'm out on this. This

812
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: guy isn't me. It doesn't work because they're really polar

813
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: opposites in terms of personality. How long before he bails completely?

814
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he could make a change in

815
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: the next three or four weeks and just justify it.

816
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: We need a spark though. Obviously today Russell didn't give

817
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: up seventy points. I mean seventy points. Colin, Yes, I

818
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: don't know how you shake that. I never thought they

819
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: were a great fit, just personality wise. Clearly Russell is

820
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: not the same and this organization needs a complete blow up.

821
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: The problem is, what do you do right the contract

822
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: for several years, from dead cap money to cap space,

823
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: the bonus you paid him, you're kind of stuck with him.

824
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: He has no trade value, so you can't really get

825
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: rid of him. Essentially, you probably one year if you

826
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: did get a really high pick, which they keep giving

827
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: up seventy points, I'll promise you they will get one.

828
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 2: Do you just cut them, take the enormous dead cap

829
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: for like the year because it accelerates on your books,

830
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: and just roll with a young quarterback and just kind

831
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: of cut bait and move on. You know, the Eagles

832
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: were all were lucky with Carson Wentz right, they were

833
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 2: able to kind of just get rid of them, and

834
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: even though and it actually ended up giving them a

835
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: first round pick from the Colts. But a lot of

836
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: times in these situations you can unload it, and this one,

837
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: to me is not going to be an unloading situation.

838
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: But he's got the quarterback, Like you said, the GM.

839
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: He didn't hire this GM like this GM. He's playing

840
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: nice for a year. This is this happens all the time,

841
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: and then he'll get bringing his own guy is the

842
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator Vance Joseph. Look at his resume lately.

843
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: It is no he'll get he'll get wack differs.

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Speaker 2: Defense this year was good and now today, I mean

845
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: they quit. The only way to give up seventy points

846
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: is by quitting and tapping out and literally not trying.

847
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Speaker 2: So he's going to have an entire organizational He probably

848
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: thought he had some you know, uh in terms of

849
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: making some steps forward this offseason, but it's clear that

850
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: they're worse than last year. Like it's pretty crazy because

851
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: at least last year the defensive coordinator that's now in Carolina,

852
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: they were good on defense at least for a long

853
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: percentage of the you know, the season, until they kind

854
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: of ran out of juice. But I think Sean Pay's

855
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: got to blow the entire thing up, and the rough situation,

856
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: you're just kind of stuck unless you want to cut

857
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: him and just take you know, historically high dead cap.

858
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: But then you got to rehaul your defensive staff. You

859
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: don't have that, you know, your draft picks. Uh, There'll

860
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: just be a lot of pressure on this team because

861
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: they are nowhere close. I mean today was I mean,

862
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: is that one of the most embarrassing days in the

863
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: history of the NFL? You think for one given team.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really ugly. You know, I was thinking about

865
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: this so Sean and I, I'm not like a close close,

866
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: but you know, we have a nice relationship, and you

867
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: know when you know, he had called me a couple

868
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: of times about Fox and negotiating a TV deal, and

869
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: he really wanted to live in Manhattan Beach and coach

870
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and I thought he was just gonna wait

871
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: for a year because neither I didn't think Brandon and

872
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: Staley was gonna last. And then we were communicating a

873
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: lot and then all of a sudden, Sean and I

874
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: weren't communicating a lot and then, and my takeaway was okay,

875
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to bother him and pester him.

876
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: That's his you know, I've been doing this long enough.

877
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: I know when somebody stops communicating, you're probably a negotiation.

878
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: And I didn't know exactly who, but I kind of

879
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: felt Denver because that's the stuff I was hearing about.

880
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: And I got to be honest, I was surprised he

881
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: took the job because he had said on the air

882
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: there were concerns about Russell Wilson right and I. And

883
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: this wasn't private conversation he had. You know, there's concerns

884
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: about basketball and Grass does does he does he have it?

885
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: So it's just so interesting because I would have bet

886
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: my four oh one K a year ago that he

887
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: would have just stayed. Fox was paying him. I imagined

888
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: good money. I know, good money. He would have just

889
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: stayed and just waited for the Charger situation. But you know,

890
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: it's funny with coaches. They always you know, I've seen

891
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: and friends years ago Mike Dunlevy took a clipper job,

892
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: and I'm like Mike. He took the Blazers of the

893
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals and arguably, you know, outplayed the Lakers

894
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: shack and Kobe. But you know, somebody offers you fifteen

895
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: and eighteen million bucks or whatever it is, and I

896
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: just I don't think this was ever an ideal fit.

897
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: But money talks, and I think I look at it

898
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: now and I think, yeah, all the things I thought

899
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: could possibly go wrong, not his GM, Russ and him,

900
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: don't click, tough division. They're all realities today.

901
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: Don't you think The wild card in this situation is

902
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: this ownership. I mean, this family top two or three

903
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: wealthiest family in the world America, and they are not

904
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: used to failing ever, So you know who knows the

905
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: dynamics they are obviously Sean is you know, a very driven,

906
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: intense individual. This family's used to things. I mean they've

907
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 2: been on I wouldn't say easy street, but their business

908
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: that has been kind of on cruise control.

909
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: For a while.

910
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: This has to be a shock to their system about

911
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: what they're witnessing. And then the nature of unlike when

912
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: you own even major corporations, they just don't get talked

913
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: about like they do in terms of you drive around

914
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: Denver tomorrow, turn on sports radio. Everyone's you know, talking

915
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: shit about the thing you own. It's some people can't

916
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: especially new the new owner syndrome. That could be overwhelming

917
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: and things could get weird, Things get weird fast.

918
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, I think, you know, the minute

919
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: he could he signed Jarrett Stidham. I think he had reservations.

920
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: You know, Sean went and looked at every throw Russell

921
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: Wilson made, and I'm sure he saw things from the

922
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: pocket right co Sell comes on my show weekly. He's

923
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: been saying it for years. Russell Wilson from the pocket

924
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: leaves a lot of throws out there. Sean saw that,

925
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: and so he went and got Stitt. Him a guy

926
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: that can run his offense complete easy throws. So I

927
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: just don't think this relationship is going to work. I

928
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: don't think this is all on Russell. But you know,

929
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: you give up draft capital, you pay him, You're going

930
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: to take the heat. And I do think the team

931
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: quit today. So does that say the locker room's not great?

932
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: The locker rooms divided? I mean, you don't see teams

933
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL quit. Maybe once a year we see

934
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: a team quit. You don't see him quit in week three,

935
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: Like that's a problem. It's week twelve, right, everybody's you know,

936
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Speaker 1: everything's put on film. So guys just don't quit in

937
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: this league. You just don't Monday, it's on film week three,

938
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: guys quit like that. That tells me there's a cultural issue.

939
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Speaker 1: And Russell's the biggest star in.

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Speaker 2: That room, saving grace for Sean those He has the

941
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: Raiders and the Chargers in his division. So it makes

942
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,000
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943
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Speaker 2: get a couple of pieces in there and get it

944
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Speaker 2: rolling in.

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