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Speaker 1: How old is old? It's one more thing. I'm strong

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Speaker 1: and geddy. One more thing. You got a couple of

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Speaker 1: things for you before we get out of here. Neither

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Speaker 1: Joe or I want to do this today, this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why exactly. I'm tird, don't know why exactly,

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Speaker 1: just just ain't feeling it. Just don't feel like talking anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I.

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Speaker 2: Get all on the field.

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Speaker 3: You've been talking for four hours.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: We played nine innings. I'm in the clubhouse and managers

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Speaker 2: like tenth innings starting.

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Speaker 1: I'm like what It reminds me for some reason, you

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Speaker 1: saying that Katie when I was single and childless. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: What is her name, Gladys? I want to call sorry Gladys.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to call her Lola for some reason, Lola

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Speaker 1: doesn't play the harp. Thank you, Gladys for laying the

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Speaker 1: harp of me reminiscing about something when I was single

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Speaker 1: and childless. There were a few weekends where I would

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Speaker 1: realize on Monday morning, as I'm driving to work to

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, I don't really know what to say to that.

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Speaker 2: What percentage of the population can make that same claim.

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Speaker 2: I did not interact with another human being the entire weekend,

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Speaker 2: but you know you do you what would you guess?

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Speaker 2: And if you as angry hermit.

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Speaker 1: I would guess that both my brothers have done it

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Speaker 3: Like not even a phone call, Like that's bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Mean, nobody talks on the phone. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's a good example. Now back in the day, No,

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Speaker 2: Back in the day. Yeah, right, you had Gladys play

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Speaker 2: the damn harp, then you called her Lola, And now

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Speaker 2: we're in the present. What's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Somebody explained the crowd rules we all lost?

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Speaker 2: What does Walter say in The Big Lebowski something about

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Speaker 2: have we all lost our minds? Nobody cares about the

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Speaker 1: How much on an outlier do you think I am?

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Speaker 1: You think I'm in the one percent of the population

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Speaker 1: It's fewer than five five pretty small.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not five, it's one to one to two,

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Speaker 1: Don't think it's probably good for you. I also had

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Speaker 4: Oh, in this day and age, even with phones, I've

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, so think about this though the younger crowd

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Speaker 1: All I know is we're moving more that direction than

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I ever came out of a

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Speaker 4: See. And I'm of the day and age of cell

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Speaker 2: It ought to if the laws of monetary physics are

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Speaker 1: Are, and then this one. This is an actual survey.

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Speaker 1: This isn't one of those done by According to walk

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Speaker 1: that's what do you think old age began for you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, for me, it started at forty eight. That's when

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Speaker 2: The horse was seventy five. What it's an old horse,

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Speaker 1: That's why we get along so at having a stroke

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Speaker 4: But dude, my health went nuts at twenty nine. A

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Speaker 4: The doctors were like this, you don't they actually call

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Speaker 1: I think a minor heart attack would get my attention

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Speaker 2: a good idea. One final note on brain health, because

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Speaker 1: I'm completely aware of that, and of just the idea

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Speaker 2: I really can't imagine why it would be different.

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Speaker 1: One question that I don't think they've answered, because I've

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Speaker 1: They brought back if you didn't hear us talking about this,

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing that curse.

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Speaker 2: All I know is that the environment of the beast,

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Speaker 2: I was hoping he'd say, yeah, how about fifty million times? Huh.

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Speaker 1: And we're not even close to how fast it's going

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Speaker 2: So well, we're all doomed, doomed to insanity, misery, drug addiction,

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Speaker 3: Who knows, we might know, we.

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Speaker 1: Wish public fornication, maybe some babies would be born. So

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Speaker 2: I think, and the survivors will write that history, but

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Speaker 2: I try and make crank calls on my landline phone,

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Speaker 3: Rings and rings, nobody answered.

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Speaker 1: Nobody answers you refrigerator running?

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