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Yeah, there's kind of 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: only one topic today, right, there's only one topic today. 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: It is not the Green Bay Phoenix who Well, we 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: played a night against IU Indy and in a game 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: in which you know, we we got to compete in 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: against the school that runs the system where they press 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: and it's crazy. 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: But that's not the story of the day. 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: The story day is Sharon Moore, who was who I mean, 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: that's a day right that where he was fired yesterday 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: with credible evidence of him being engaged in an inappropriate 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: relationship with a staff member. He was booked in custody. Hey, 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: last night, and you know, Pittsfield Police Department responded to 31 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: a call at four to ten pm Eastern time for 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: purpose of investigating alleged assault. He was taken into custody. 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: The incident does not appear to be random in nature. 34 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: It appears to be an ongoing then there appears to 35 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: be no ongoing threat to the community. 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: Right, So. 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna be different than these sanctimonious people 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: that are out there. Cheron Moore had a series of 39 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: really really bad decisions, really bad decisions. And when you're 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: a coach. I've heard David Blatt say this. David Blat 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: remember when he was the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers. 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: He likened being a head coach in the NBA to 43 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: being a fighter fighter pilot and that you have to 44 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: make thousands of split second decisions. Now this is not 45 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: necessarily They weren't split second decisions, right, It's not just 46 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: that he was having an affair. It's not just that 47 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: he was having affair with somebody who worked for him. 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: So there was a lot of thought that went into always, 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing hiring her. I don't know 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: if it the fair preceded hiring her or once she 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: was hired, I don't know, but all the thought that 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: went into it. It wasn't like it was being a 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: fighter pilot where you make a split second decision or 54 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: being a coach on the field where you got to 55 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: make it. 56 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: Hey we're going for two. You're not going for two. 57 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: What are we doing with blitzing? 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: Now? 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: Wow, we're doing it. 60 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to make split second decisions, but 61 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: they have to be based upon your level of preparation. 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: But I I. 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: One side, dumb, okay, dumb. And there is a gigantic 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: push in especially state institutions to hire females as part 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: of the basketball staff, the football staff, baseball staff, okay, 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: director of ops whatever, because optics, and it also gives 67 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: you a different perspective. It's not always the male present 68 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: don't always know the right way to do things. But 69 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: it does not come without risk. And look, there can 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: be some risk because sometimes an office romance when two 71 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: people are both single, like in office romance, can be 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: very very normal natural. This is not because he's married 73 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: and she works. Sorry for it, but under his guidance, 74 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: there's a pause in it. But I would have to 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: tell you, man, every not every guy, most guys, I 76 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: know we have a self destruct button. I've been through 77 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: it myself, and I like, again, who am I to 78 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: cast stones when I'm a starting point guard Notre dame. 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't come from a rich background, but 80 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: I definitely wasn't, you know, rubbing two pennies together, And 81 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: yet I took other people's credit cards from their dorms 82 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: and used it. Again, it does pale in comparison, but 83 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: it's still the idea of you didn't need it, you 84 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: had to know the ramifications, and you end up having 85 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: to leave one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Right, 86 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: that's that self destruct button. I've hit it before. And 87 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, by the way, I'm gonna tell you I've 88 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: been divorced before. I just I can't imagine being Sharon 89 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: More today. And dude, I get it, Like there's all 90 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: kinds of ratification we're going to talk about throughout the show. Right, 91 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: who's the next head coach? You know, freshman quarterbacks already 92 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: in the portal. Everyone in that program is going to 93 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: lose their job. That's how it works. Strength coach people 94 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: that have nothing to do with anything. They did nothing wrong. 95 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: All they did was work every single day. That's the 96 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: deal about being a head coach. In order to hire assistance, 97 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: they have to believe in you as a person as 98 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a coach, believe in the program, believe in the place 99 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: they're all in. 100 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: And their key cards don't work anymore. 101 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: I guess sell their house, they gotta move their kids, 102 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: gotta find new schools, all because of his series of 103 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: terrible decisions. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm okay with any 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: of them. All of them are bad, all of them 105 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: are dumb. But I do find it really, really, really 106 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: really interesting how many people choose to you know, like, look, 107 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: you come up with the Coldplay meme. 108 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: That's funny, But I woke up going man, oh, I 109 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 5: got some empathy for that guy I just do. 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Because he lost everything yesterday. Now do people say it's 111 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: over and never be blah blah blah blah. By Petrino 112 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: obviously is the guy who can go Hey, By Patrino, 113 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: same exact thing, only more spectacular way of going out 114 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: in the blaze of glory. Now By Petrino had one previously, 115 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: you know at Louisville been the NFL. 116 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: But by Petrino's done a lot. 117 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: But Bobby Petrino, by the way, was head coach at 118 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: Louisville a second time around. Bobby Patrino was the interim 119 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: coach at Arkansas a second time around after he got 120 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: fired for the exact same thing. 121 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: So it it does. 122 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: It feels at this moment he lost and cost everybody 123 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: everything everything. But there's a lot of dudes that do 124 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: a lot of bad stuff because of bad decisions. 125 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: You're like, I would never do that. No, you might not. 126 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully you do not cheat on your on your spouse. 127 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: You have a drink and drive O wow, pool beers, 128 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: three beers. Okay, you're drinking drive, You're getting behind a 129 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: loaded weapon and you're taking everyone else's life in your 130 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: own hands with no real control over it. And the 131 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: likelihood of and you could kill people. That's sorry, worse 132 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: than losing your job, moving your family. There's lots of 133 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: things that guys do that are we are. We are 134 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: the dumber part of the species. Like no, I would 135 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: never bowl that, I guarantee you know. We all have 136 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: that that trigger. Some some operate where they brush up 137 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: against it more often. Some are smart and calm and 138 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: go like I know that name, I know that button, 139 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: that napalm, butmant button, I'm not hitting it. And for 140 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: all of those people, I commend you. I got to 141 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: tell you that I am a work in progress. 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: I just am. I'm a work in progress. 143 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: Hell. 144 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: Last week I I use my Jedi strength to push 145 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: a stool when I didn't think anybody's looking and got 146 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: clipped on camera. 147 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: Nobody's around. I got made to be Bob freakin' Knight. 148 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: By the way, if I can win this many games, 149 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: Bob Knight, it'll be a good it'll be a good run. 150 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: Point is that I understand guys do stupid stuff. This 151 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: is a series of really stupid decisions. Why are you 152 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: hiring a woman, and why are you sleeping with woman 153 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: out of wedlock, and why are you doing it with 154 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: somebody who works for you, and you work for the 155 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: University of Michigan, and dude, don't and have friends that 156 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: go like, hey man, I know that you're I've seen 157 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: how you. 158 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: Guys look at each other, like, dude, we're all going 159 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: to get fired. 160 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: And you know we could go through the There's only 161 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: three undefeated teams, right, seventy two Dolphins, father time, and 162 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: you know the other one. If you don't ask a friend, 163 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: they'll tell you. I'm not saying it's okay in any way. 164 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: I realize that what's the what's the word? Jay stew 165 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: that you used the downstream effect great way, the downstream effect, 166 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: not realizing how it affects everybody else. You just natepalmed 167 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: the winningest college football program of all time. Wow, but 168 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: he who's without sin can cast the first stone. I 169 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: ain't doing it. I ain't doing it. It's dumb, it's bad, 170 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: it sucks. But he's not the first and won't be 171 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: the last. And the conversation you got it you'll have 172 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: with your buddies is like, dude, if you ever see 173 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: me ever, make guys, it's somebody at work, stop me, 174 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: tackle me, don't do it. 175 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: And also should be the damn. 176 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: We'll take a lot of people's opinions on it, and 177 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: I do value their opinions. And I know a lot 178 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: of people sit there and go, you're completely wrong. This 179 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: guy did something and he cost people their livelihood and 180 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: he ruined a great college wall program. I actually think 181 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: you're right. I'm not disputing that at all. I'm just 182 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: saying we're all human beings, and there's been plenty of 183 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: dudes that have stepped out of their marriage. There have 184 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: been plenty of dudes that have done plenty of dumb things, 185 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: and I just I have some empathy for him today. 186 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: I have a lot of empathy for him today. 187 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: Mostly because again I don't know if he can make 188 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: amends with his wife. I have no idea of the 189 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: status of that relationship. But I can tell you going 190 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: through it is going through divorce. It's worst worst. You know, 191 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: there's no such thing as a good doors. Here's Adam Schefter, 192 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: ESPN's NFL Insider, talking about Sharon Moore's side of the story. 193 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 6: For what we have in her yet is Charon Moore's 194 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 6: side of this, And he gets his say into this 195 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 6: particular situation as well, And I do know that he 196 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 6: felt like people had it in for him for an 197 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 6: awful long time there while he was at Michigan, he 198 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 6: felt like there were people who were out to get him. 199 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 6: So all these things can all be true. It's possible that, yes, 200 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,239 Speaker 6: Michigan does have evidence that he had an inappropriate relationship 201 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 6: with the staffer, and it could be that Charon Moore 202 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 6: is right that people had it in for him. But 203 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 6: the whole situation itself is just sad and tragic because 204 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 6: now we have a individual who had his professional life, 205 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 6: his personal life completely upended. We have a school with 206 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 6: a bunch of players who don't have a coach to 207 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 6: turn to right now, we have a school in search 208 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 6: of a program a new coach to lead forth that program. 209 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,479 Speaker 6: They are a whole host of things that have transpired 210 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 6: here that have led this to be a completely surreal, 211 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 6: wild situation that if you heard about it, you wouldn't 212 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 6: believe it because it almost seems made up. 213 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: I actually I believe that Schroan Moore feels like he 214 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: had people out to get him. He did, I'm sure 215 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: at people out again because he was in Jim Harbaugh 216 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: and they didn't do a national search and he got 217 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: the job, and they lost, you know, most of their 218 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: team to the NFL. It was all loaded up for 219 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: that one year, you know, and Mintor goes to the 220 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: Chargers with him and they had to start over. And 221 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: the only thing great that happened last year was they 222 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: beat Ohio State, right. And then this year he gets 223 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: a freshman quarterback and game two of the season, they 224 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: go into Oklahoma and they get beat and they were better. 225 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: They were good, good, but not good enough. And when 226 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: you have two years in this competitive environment. 227 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: People are not to get you. But you can't give 228 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: him a reason. You just can't. 229 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: Can't do it, and he gave him an easy reason 230 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: to get rid of him. 231 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 232 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 233 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 234 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: Doug gottlib Show, Fox Sports Radio. George Reister, former tight End, 235 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: the NFL co host of Fox Sports Radio's. 236 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: Show of Course. 237 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: He also has The Unafraid Show with George Reister, the 238 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartMedia. He'll join us after getn Update. But 239 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's go around the room a little bit. 240 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: Here. 241 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Byer happily married man, 242 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: Jason Stewart happily Are you engaged, Jayce dou I'm just 243 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I know Caes your smoking hot girl. I'm not trying 244 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: to put any pressure on you. But I know Jacobs engaged, right. 245 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 7: Okay, I'm not officially engaged. My son is yep. 246 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: Okay, Sammy, I don't know your relationships. 247 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 4: Stead I have a girlfriend. 248 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I have a girlfriend. I am. 249 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: I have a girlfriend, I am, but I'm also divorced. 250 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: So again, we all come out from different perspectives, different perspectives. 251 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: My perspective look coaching a college team, I mean, obviously, 252 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: like there's a million decisions you can make, and I 253 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: have no doubt that he had the sense people are 254 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: out to get him, and you feel like everybody's looking 255 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: at what you do when you just have to kind 256 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: of focus, calm the noise, coach the team get better. 257 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: But dude, like what do we do? What are you 258 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: doing here? You just it's just dumb. But again, I 259 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: woke up today thinking, God, I feel bad for that car. 260 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: I feel bad for everybody involved. Right, the young woman, 261 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: she made a terrible decision, she ruined a family. Whether 262 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: the family stays together because you can sometimes mend these things. 263 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 264 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to be a human being here, 265 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: not be you know your classic sports and but you 266 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: know sports sports, yacker, and do what everybody else does, 267 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: which is take a pound of flesh. Why you don't 268 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: have to take a pound of flesh, dude, it's already done. 269 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Gary lost his job, probably gonna lose his marriage. I 270 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: cost all of his best friends. You only hire people 271 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: that you respect, like frankly love. Those are the people 272 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: that you got to go to war with when you're 273 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: going to be a college coach, because it's really really. 274 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: Hard cost all those people's job. 275 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: So I actually woke up with empathy sympathy as well, 276 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Dan Byer, your thoughts. 277 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 8: If on a scale one to ten, you had a 278 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 8: ten for empathy for Sharon Moore, I have a negative 279 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 8: a million. I just I don't have I don't have 280 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 8: any empathy at least not now. That may change, But 281 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 8: just know, empathy whatsoever for Sharon Moore at this time. 282 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: Okay, any other thoughts that you have that you want 283 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: to share on the actual situation. 284 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I mean I just I just I don't 285 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 8: like there's it's a separate situation when we look at 286 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 8: what happened. 287 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: So Sharon Moore. 288 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 8: Ends up having this this breakdown. It feels like from 289 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 8: the reports that we've heard after he found out that 290 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 8: he was being fired, that he was that this was 291 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 8: going down, and so it's I think we have to 292 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 8: separate the two in how we like look at the situation. 293 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 8: But now the more that we're hearing about possibly people 294 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 8: knowing about this four months for this investigation to go 295 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 8: on and wrap up at this time, I think that 296 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 8: there are so many questions about Michigan, Michigan's role, why 297 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 8: it happened when it did, and I think that those 298 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 8: are the questions that I'm curious about. I know that 299 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 8: there apparently was another woman involved in some affair. I 300 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 8: still put the onus on More's shoulders. He had so 301 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 8: much to lose, as you've pointed out, apparently she now 302 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 8: may have been the alleged victim where he was arrested 303 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 8: or I shouldn't say detained, I should say so. 304 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 305 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 8: I just think that there's like this is just an 306 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 8: ugly situation. But I also think that Michigan is to 307 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 8: blame with part of it prior to this outburst because 308 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 8: of what was allowed and what wasn't allowed. And Sharon 309 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 8: Moore got away with a lot of stuff at Michigan, 310 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 8: so he probably thought he could get away with this, 311 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 8: and then when he didn't, when they decided to put 312 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 8: their foot down for whatever reason they felt that they 313 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 8: needed to, whether it be alumni wanted to get rid 314 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 8: of them, whether it be they didn't he couldn't beat 315 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 8: Ohio State two weeks ago, whatever the reason is, Michigan 316 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 8: isn't innocent in all of this, and so I think 317 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 8: those are the that's the point that I look at. 318 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 8: Whether I feel awful for his family, I feel awful 319 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 8: for his kids, It's gonna stink for the people that 320 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 8: I didn't know what was going on. But within the 321 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 8: Michigan football program, there are a lot of people who 322 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 8: knew what was going on with a lot of different 323 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 8: things and then never did anything about it until now 324 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 8: when it was convenient. And now look at where you are. 325 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: Case two. 326 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not even sure where to start, but 327 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 7: just in general, my blanket opinion on this, and I've 328 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 7: got George Reiser here that life comes down to a 329 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 7: series of choices. We all have the agency to make 330 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 7: decisions and choose things. If you're saying that the program 331 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 7: had it end for him, as Adam Schefter said, or 332 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 7: if you're saying that you have a lot of empathy 333 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 7: for the guy you are, you seem to be taken 334 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 7: away from his responsibility and the choices that he made. 335 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 7: And at this juncture twenty four hours after the news broke, 336 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 7: I'm not willing to give him that latitude. This all 337 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 7: seems to go back to a decision or series of 338 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 7: decisions that he made. It's all his fault. 339 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Oh, they listen, I'm not abssolving him him. I'm not 340 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: absolving him. I'm not saying anything's done to him. He 341 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: did this himself, zero question about it. Did it himself. Okay, 342 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: that's the worst part about it. It's the it's the plexico. 343 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Buris right. It's one thing to get shot in a club. 344 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: It's another thing to shoot yourself in the club and 345 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: then go to jail for shooting yourself. 346 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, my right, and that's the worst part. 347 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: My point is men, generally, it's a general statement, but 348 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: it is proven based upon every statistical analysis ever ever 349 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: ever make more dumb decisions than women. Do They just do, like, 350 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: that's why our insurance rates are higher. Duh, because we 351 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: make bad decisions when we're driving. More men are incarcerated 352 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: than women incarcerated. Why because we make more bad decisions 353 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: than women. And I just again, I'm not absolving it 354 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: from I get it. Dude, like bro lost everything and 355 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: cost his best friends their job, and he was the 356 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: head coach at the winningest college football program of all time. 357 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: That's all gone. And I'm not blaming anybody else. I'm 358 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: saying I understand the propensity to make bad decisions or 359 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: make a bad decision that can cost you. And then 360 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: when you wake up the next morning, it's and then 361 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: and then I actually understand uniquely the weight of media 362 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: social media from my position. Now again, I'm saying, last 363 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: week I pushed it. I got mad, pushed the stool 364 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: by the way because we lost a game. I lost 365 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: my cool. Wasn't smart, not the end of the world. 366 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: There's nobody around. I don't think anybody saw. I wasn't 367 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: happy with myself. I just I was just so and 368 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: I had kept my cools, shook hands with Andy Toole 369 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: and the entire staff and every player on the Robin 370 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: Morris team, and there was nothing that I got the ah, 371 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: and I just felt the weight of the world because 372 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: everybody made this gigantic deal like I'm Bob Knight throwing 373 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: a chair out in the middle of a crowd. So 374 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: I understand that uniquely. I understand bad decisions that lead 375 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: to all the ramifications downstream, as you said, Jason, But 376 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean there is a point of it where you 377 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: look around and. 378 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: Go like, damn, feel bad for that dude. 379 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: George Reister joins us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show 380 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio. He played college ball at Oregon. 381 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Of course, he's a former NFL tight end. And if 382 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: you haven't checked out The Unafraid Show with George Reister, 383 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: you should. It's podcast you can download from our iHeart 384 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: Podcast network. George, what was your immediate reaction when you 385 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: heard the story we heard the news break yesterday. 386 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: Well, it was kind of twofold because the first thing 387 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: that I heard was that he was getting fired, and 388 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, they they got sick 389 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: of him. And then I thought why About two minutes 390 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: later and I was like, oh no, well that will 391 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: get you fired. It was just and then I started 392 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 4: Then my emotions started ranging because it was it's sad, dude. 393 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: It's sad for his family. It's sad for all the 394 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 4: kids that committed to play for him, It's sad for 395 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: the recruits, for the the fan base, the disappointment. It's 396 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 4: like there there there are no winners here, and and 397 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: he and he made some very poor choices. And yes 398 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: he's the only one to blame. But but at the 399 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 4: same time, as a person, you know who is who 400 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: is imperfect? I think, and none of us are. I 401 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: think it's easy to, you know, judge and say how 402 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: could you make that colossal of a decision when the 403 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: reality of life is that when you make bad choices, 404 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: sometimes the consequences are severe. 405 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: They are It is interesting, like we're at the holiday 406 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: season and everyone talks about Jesus and you're like, well, 407 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, Jesus was forgiving and understanding. You know, it 408 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: was like, but but people can be so cruel when again, 409 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he deserves to keep his job. 410 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he shouldn't feel the weight of 411 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: what's happened. I'm saying he already does you like the 412 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: old hey, let's go off the top rope and a 413 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: dude is clearly down for the count. Uh is the 414 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: is the piloting on and people taking great joy in 415 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: it because of their collegial ties. Like, dude, if you 416 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: want to do dig in Ohio State's got plenty of 417 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: creepos that that were that have been coaches there. Okay, 418 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: one was caught on camera when he was the head 419 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. You go to Michigan State, you 420 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: can go to all of them, all the big ten. 421 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: How you go to school by school by school, they 422 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: all got an issue. 423 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's not do it. 424 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: We can do the whole radio show and I could 425 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: go through each one each and everyone. Yes, Dan Byron, 426 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Ohio State. They don't employ angels that 427 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: have worked or played. 428 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: In Ohio State. Don't act like they do. 429 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, but but I think that people. You know, 430 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 4: it's easy to get your jokes off, but when you 431 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 4: look at this could have turned deadly for himself or 432 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 4: for the young lady involved in it too. That's the 433 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: that's when you realize, oh oh hold on, let's let's stop. 434 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: Let's stop with these jokes, jokes and playing around. 435 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: Okay, now we got to talk about the sports aspect 436 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: of it. What do you do to hires? Who do 437 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: you hire? 438 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 4: Oh? See here here, here's what a tough part is, 439 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: because they have to hire somebody quickly, because. 440 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Because because because you're gonna lose your team, every kid 441 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: that signed there is gonna be gone to because they 442 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: can all get in the portal. 443 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: They can all get in the portal anyway. So but 444 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: but yeah, you gotta you gotta get ahead of that. 445 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 4: I'm probably probably trying. And I know that Michigan fans, 446 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: they they want to win the press conference. They want 447 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: to have a Matt Campbell moment, but unfortunately Matt Campbell 448 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: is not available now. And you've had Clark Lee over 449 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 4: there at Vanderbilt, Jeff Brohm at Louisville, Brent Key at 450 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: Georgia Tech. All of these guys have announced extensions to 451 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 4: Kalani Tataki Rehtt lastly down at s m U. So 452 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 4: you're going to be at a point where maybe you 453 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: can poach a Jed Fish from from Washington or who's 454 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: coached there previously, or maybe you can get a guy 455 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 4: like Kate Klin de Bor if he's willing to leave 456 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: at Alabama because they're not just going to be trying 457 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 4: to find a good head coach. Michigan wants to win 458 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: the press conference. 459 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, they got it. 460 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: Whoever it is gotta be squeaky clean, right, you can't 461 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: come in after after Harbaugh, Harball gets a show cause 462 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: and sharn Moore gets fired two years later, and you 463 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta go squeaky clean. 464 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 4: Everybody gotta go, like like if you were any way 465 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: tied to this, tied to the Connor Sallion thing or 466 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 4: or or anything, you gotta. 467 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: Go asam hmmm, I mean Deboor to Michigan. And people 468 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: are like, Lane Kiffin will then go to Alabama. I 469 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't. I don't see see 470 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: that one that would be that would be that would 471 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: be an all timers, be an all time Kiffin move. 472 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: What do you think of Kiffin at l s U? 473 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: First of first of all, I think that LSU hired 474 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: the wrong guy. They they they should have gone an 475 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: hour and a half hired John Somemerall who's sitting in 476 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: Baton Lane or who? Yeah, who's who's that? Tulane in 477 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: New Orleans? An hour and a half away. He knows 478 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 4: what ATUFE is, he knows the difference between Gumbo and Jambalaya, 479 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: he knows how to relate to those kids, and so 480 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 4: he could have done well and recruited, but you got 481 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: ls LSU. They wanted the Lane Kippen so bad because 482 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 4: they wanted be a name. And the reality is, yes, 483 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin has been a good head coach and he's 484 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 4: been good for a while, but he's only won one 485 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: conference championship in his history and that was at FAU 486 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 4: and he blows up everything everywhere he goes. So I'm 487 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 4: not sure that if you're at LSU, I don't know 488 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: why you chase down somebody this hard, like like he's 489 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 4: Nick Saban or you know, or Kirby Smart. 490 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Last thing, your biggest issue with the College Football Playoff Comittee. 491 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 4: Is what, oh what they what they did with Notre Dame. 492 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 4: But but not the fact that they left Notre Dame out, 493 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 4: It's more how they did it. So how the hell 494 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: are you going to have Notre Dame in front of 495 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 4: Miami for the on the Tuesday prior to the final 496 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 4: rankings and the Tuesday prior when they were in the 497 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 4: same spot and not move them and switched them. The 498 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: problem is is that you as you set a precedent 499 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: by not switching them on the Tuesday prior or the 500 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 4: or the Tuesday prior to that, and then you switched 501 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 4: them at the last minute after Alabama gets their doors 502 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 4: knocked knocked off, when in reality Notre Dame and Miami 503 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: both should have been in the playoffs. I would have 504 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 4: punted the one hundred and third rushing offense in the 505 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: country in Alabama to the to the sun out of 506 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: sent them over to the Pop Start Bowl. 507 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have punted in Alabama. But hey, that's that. 508 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: You're you're you're allowed. 509 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: Today had good wins, man better wins than those other ones. 510 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: But it's it's gonna be fascinating. 511 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: George, great stuff. 512 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: I encourage people to check out download this podcast, The 513 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: Unafraid Show with George Reischer, this podcast Nightheartmedia. Of course 514 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: you can hear them weekends here on Fox Sports Radio. George, 515 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: we really appreciate you joining us. 516 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: Yep, are they. 517 00:28:53,560 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: We'll just say manure okay. We'll say manure okay, because 518 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: manure is usually made by one cattle, and we'll say 519 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: this is bull manure. 520 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: Right. 521 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm I'm the the word that I'm 522 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: expressing here. Okay, so you've heard this and I think 523 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: you've talked about it a little bit. 524 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: Dan, there you go. 525 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: I saw this from Dan Wolken of Yahoo Sports. And 526 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Dan's report is wrong. What I'm 527 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: saying is here, let me let me show you uh 528 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: from Yahoo Sports. After learning of Notre Dame's memorandum of 529 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: understanding that grants the IRIS preferential playoff access starting next year, 530 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: athletic directors and other leagues are threatening to freeze Notre 531 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: Dame out of future schedules. Per Dan Wolkin, threatening the 532 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: number one job of athletic directors is what, Danny, why 533 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: don't you just send Sir Doug just tell us raise money? 534 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: There it is, raise money. 535 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: So Notre Dame. 536 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: Calls and uh, let's pick a university in who's supposedly 537 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: threatening to not play them, right USC, Let's do the 538 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: USC thing like, oh, this is the reason USC doesn't 539 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: want to play them. M Do you want to fill 540 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: your stadium? Do you want to fill your hotel rooms? 541 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: Do you want to be on national TV and have 542 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: one of the highest rated Games of the year. You don't, Okay, well, 543 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: you know one plays. 544 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: I call manure bowl manure. 545 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: The idea the threatening to is just such a gray area. 546 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: It's such a gray area if you're gonna if Notre 547 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Dame wants to play you, if it works for your 548 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: coaches to have your coach is like, yeah, we'll play them. 549 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna do it because you can make a crap 550 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: ton of money and you're gonna be on national TV. 551 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: If you're not gonna do it, they'll find somebody who will. 552 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: That's the reality of it. It just it like, oh, 553 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: now that they have a signed memorandum of understanding, they're 554 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: going to be in the College Wall Playoff. They finished 555 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: in the top twelve. Nothing of your decision is going 556 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: to change that. You're unhappy with it, that's on you. Your 557 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: job as an ad again. Now, part of it is 558 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: if schools don't want to play Notre Dame, it's because 559 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: they don't want to go through what Texas did. Why 560 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: would I play that game when it doesn't help me? 561 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: It only hurts me if I lose it. I'll play 562 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: Indiana schedule, don't play anybody. Win enough conference games, get 563 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: to the comp That's what's going to happen. That's what 564 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: the committee did. That's committee told. 565 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: Everybody to do. They told all. 566 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: Those SEC teams stop, stop playing good teams, stop it 567 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: Big ten two, and all these coaches sitting there going like, 568 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: the only way to keep your job, keep making money 569 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: is to get to the College Wall Playoff? Am I 570 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: more or less likely to make the College Wall Playoff 571 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: if I play one of the elite teams? 572 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: And the answer is less right less? 573 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: You have a less than fifty percent chance of winning 574 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: on the road and even at home. Man, you gotta 575 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: be really good and if you win it great, I 576 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: call Manure. 577 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 578 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 579 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. You're on Fox Sports Radio. 580 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: Don't call it. 581 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Throwback Thursday comes up top of the hour. That should 582 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun, a lot of fun. 583 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: Good year. 584 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: We got selected. 585 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Every Olympic dream starts with the first glide Through learn 586 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Skate USA kids build confidence, strength and a joy on 587 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: the ice. Learns Kate USA offers programs for skaters of 588 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: all ages and abilities. Find a program near you at 589 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: learn skate USA dot com. Let's get to a game 590 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: with Dan Byer. This is game time game on the 591 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show. Any what is the game today? 592 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 8: The game today is. 593 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: I feel a draft? 594 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: All right? 595 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 8: Brace on the heels of Iowa. Sam's tweet at Iowa 596 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 8: date could go for the clean sweep against Iowa tonin 597 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 8: Is that correct? 598 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 9: Iowa s yeah, so I tweeted out, I can't remember 599 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 9: the last time Iowa State beat Iowa in football, wrestling, 600 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 9: women's basketball, and men's basketball in the same year, because 601 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 9: they won in wrestling for the first time since two 602 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 9: thousand and four, but they did not do the clean 603 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 9: sweep that year. And Doug basically I I asked Twitter 604 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 9: verse and then someone asked Groc and on on X 605 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 9: and Groc said that it's never happened before, so I 606 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 9: gets at least never happened for it's not ever a 607 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 9: long damn time. 608 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: So they already wrestled against him? Is no, they have 609 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: a duel again later? I know Oklahoma State has a 610 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: duel with Iowa. 611 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 612 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 9: So the non conference in wrestling is sprinkled out through 613 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 9: the season. The Iowa State and Iowa already wrestled and 614 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 9: Iowa State upset Iowa. 615 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: Okay grappled. I like that, all right, So is that 616 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: what you are you first? Does he have the first pick? 617 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 8: Well, I have to tell you what the topic is, 618 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 8: best in state rivalries in college sports. So Jason has 619 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 8: the first overall pick. I will pick second. 620 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 2: Is anybody gonna pick the Pyhawk episode? Sam doesn't get it? 621 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 8: Doug is third and Jason is fourth. So Jason Eric 622 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 8: Sam is fourth. Jason, you were on the clock. 623 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 7: Sorry, Oh Nelly, I can't believe you gave me a 624 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 7: first pick on this one. 625 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: Granddaddy m. 626 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 7: Usc U c L a very interesting in state rivalry. 627 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 7: That's gonna move to Inglewood. That's weird. 628 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: What city of champions Englewood? 629 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 8: All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna go off the board here. 630 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 8: I think they just played, uh within the past couple 631 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 8: of weeks college basketball, like Jason as city rivalry, Let's 632 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 8: go Xavier Cincinnati because it was where they couldn't play 633 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 8: because they were they would fight every time happened. 634 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: With Clemson, South Carolina to and football. 635 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 8: I remember, Yeah, So let's go, let's go Xavier Cincinnati 636 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 8: and college him up. 637 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: It's two Holloway, Halloway, zip and zip him up, body back. 638 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm gonna go bed them. Oklahoma State, 639 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Oklahoma's big in Now they don't play in football currently. 640 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: It was the longest consecutive or, if there's another word, rivalry, 641 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: They uninterrupted rivalry until obviously they but they played this weekend. 642 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: In basketball, they wrestle against each other. Golf's big, baseball's big. 643 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: Give me bed them. 644 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 8: Bedlam's off the board, Sam, you have the next two picks? 645 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 9: Oh man, I only thought passed my first pick, which 646 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 9: I will go a syhawk near and dear. Shoot, let's go. 647 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 9: Let's just go Florida, Florida State. I really am just 648 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 9: not put us into this. Always seems to be bad blood. 649 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 9: I don't know sure why not pick? 650 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 8: Yes? 651 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: You know? 652 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: Uh you guys ever seen the musical Best Little Hoohouse 653 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: State of Texas? 654 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 4: Have not? 655 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a famous musical. It's actually musicals they made 656 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: into a movie as well. The legend is that the 657 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: victors of the Texas Texaan and and football game got 658 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: free run at the old Chicken Coop. So I'm gonna 659 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: go Texas and Texas A and. 660 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 8: M all right, that's a good one. That's actually could 661 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 8: have been my first pick. This one also could have 662 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 8: been my first pick. They're eight miles apart. College basketball again, 663 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 8: Duke North Carolina. 664 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: I love I love Dunk, I love Dunk. 665 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 8: But according to Sam, when the Noles and Gators get 666 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 8: together on the hard work. 667 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, missed a couple of the ones. What you got there, 668 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: jays dupe. 669 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 7: This one will forever be called the mel Tucker verse. 670 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 7: Sharone more bull. 671 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: Inappropriate, the inappropriate relationship. 672 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 9: Ball is that the battle for Paul Bunyan. 673 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 8: No, Paul Onion is the axe and Wisconsin the axe. 674 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 8: There's the axes Wisconsin, Minnesota. Then there is a Paul 675 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 8: Bunyan status. 676 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 9: Paul Bunyon is in that Michigan state. 677 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 7: Michigan. 678 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: Really, I didn't know that. We'll look into it. 679 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: A couple others that I know, Dan as near and 680 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: Dearer's heart. Holy war b yu utah, that's amazing, amazing. 681 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: Stanford Cal. Nobody mentioned Stanford Cal. Did anyone mentioned Stanford Call? 682 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 6: No? 683 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 8: I don't think so. Stanford Cal. Big game, right, We 684 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 8: missed Civil War. We missed apple cup, Apple cup, apple cup. 685 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Trader. That's game Time 686 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: coming up next. Don't call him throw Back Thursday. Guess 687 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: what year it is. You'll have to stay tuned to 688 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show.