1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by Calida. Help, all right, 2 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: how is everybody here on a Friday? Chris Brown, Steve 3 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is the show. Glad 4 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: to have you with us as we count down to 5 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, and look, we got 6 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: plenty plenty to discuss. Even though Steve has been virtually 7 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: glued to Round two of the Masters. Steve's got the 8 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: TV's on in our office. He's watching every shot with 9 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: baited breath. I'm like, dude, we got like three more 10 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: days of this. You're not gonna make it. 11 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: I know, I know. I say this too. Brownie had 12 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: the good people from Geneseo in today. All the kids 13 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: were coming into a student tour, great student tour, and 14 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna go out and say hi you Right, 15 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: So I step out of the door. There's all these 16 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: kids waiting in the fourier of the field House. 17 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: Here. 18 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: I choke on a chocolate chip cookie and I had 19 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: to excuse me. I couldn't even say hi. I had 20 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: to excuse myself to hustle through. And by the time 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: I get straightened out, I had the hiccups. I had 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: every I'm like I was really struggling rights struggle. I 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: come back out and they're gone. You were all for clemped, 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: They're gone. Yeah. I didn't even have to get a 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: chance to say hello to any of them. I'm feel bad. 26 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Well, it was an excellent way for you to make 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: a first impression. 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're all like going, wow, Brownie's got a 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: real job. 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: I kind of prepped them all. I was like, oh, 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, you might get a chance to cross paths 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: with Steve Tasker, my co host. You know, seven time 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: pro bowler. He's on the Wall of famee that we 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: just saw in the stadium, and then we come in 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: here in the guy's gag hook. 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: Like, wow, Brownie's got to drag that old carcass around 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: all day. Man, a heavy lift for the show. 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: Geez, can you even talk? 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: It was not good for me. It was not a 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: good impression for me and the kids from GSN Geneseo. 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: Any nevertheless, yeah, good group. 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: Some business school students that you know are looking to 43 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: get into the business world and some are interested in 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: working in the sports industry. So they're taking them all around. 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: They were at New Era capp earlier today downtown, so 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: it's another stop after. 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: This, but glad we we were a part of their tour. 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: And as most people know, you get here to one 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Bill's Drive, you know, you got the new stadium going up, 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: I mean, and then you come over here and they've 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: got this state of the art facility over here, manned 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: by some real pros. It's pro day to day here 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: in this in the local local pro day, so there's 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: a lot going on. So it's I imagine it was. 55 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: They got a you know, they got a belly full 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: of what's going on. There were a lot of photos taken. Yeah, 57 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: say that. It's amazing. It's a it's a fun day 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: to be over here. We're you know, we're still over 59 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: here stuck talking about the draft, but it's pretty exciting. 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thing over here. There's all it's very busy 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: here at this time of year. All the scouts are in, 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: you got the pro day going, you got the Geneseo 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: kids here, you got the stadium going up. 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: So it's always We actually cross paths with another tour 65 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: group that was coming through today, so yeah, it's yeah, 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: there's some hustle and bustle, maybe not to the degree 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: that we see across the Street with all those construction workers, 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: you know, pounding hammers and laying cable lines. 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we going on about the new stadium and what's 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 2: going on over there. But it was good to see 71 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: the Geneseo people here and the you know, the young 72 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: the local pro guy, local guys coming here for their 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: pro day. It's pretty fun. So I can kind of 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: commiserate with the pro day guys. 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, did you so, did you have a 76 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: you had an on campus pro day? 77 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: Now, they didn't have those back then, did they. They 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: did not. They had the combine was like in just 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: start a year. Yeah, so it was they were still 80 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: kind of doing things the old school way. 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: So so a scout would have to come to your school, 82 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: pull you out of class or something. 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: Well, and pulled me out of class. When I when 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: I went to class, I was in you know, I 85 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: was in coast mode. But I would get a call 86 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: from the football office and say, hey, on like on 87 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: a Friday or satur or during the week, Hey, next Tuesday, 88 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: nine am, the Blessedo Scout's going to be there or 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: there's going to be a scout there from whatever whatever whatever. Uh, 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: and he's gonna want to, you know, work you out, 91 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: so you'd have to stay ready. In fact, that's why 92 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: I played rugby my last semester of college, so I 93 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: could kind of stay in a little bit more competitive shape. 94 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: And you know, I was working out all the time, 95 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: so I stayed busy. Yeah, but that I didn't get. 96 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to the combine. Come on, 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: I was, so I'm yeah. So that's how it worked. 98 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: Then we didn't have an organized pro day where all 99 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: the senior guys came over. Now when I when they 100 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: called in and they we would all go, or not 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: all of us all the time. Sometimes he say I 102 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: want to see this kid, this kid, and this kid. 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: So there'd be three of us, me and a D lineman, 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: one of the D linemen, or me and one of 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: the dbs, or a couple of other guys and we 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: would all go work out for this one scout. Because 107 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: they didn't want to see linebackers, or they didn't want 108 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: to see dB, or they didn't you know whatever offensive lineman, 109 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: they didn't see any so it was just, you know, 110 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: whoever they said they wanted to see show up. It's like, yeah, 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: you know, let's go. There we go, and that's it. 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: You had to be ready. Yeah, it was none of 113 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: this peaking at the right moment. 114 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: So and that is the first Bill's note for us 115 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: to get to. The local pro Day is taking place 116 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: here today at one Bill's Drive, so you be Prospects 117 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: like All American linebacker Sean Dolak are expected to be 118 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: on hand, along with other prospects who hail from the 119 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Western New York region. So whether you play at the 120 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: University of Buffalo, I think Syracuse is even in the 121 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: territory where it could still be considered a local pro day. 122 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure about that. And then anybody who is 123 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: a Western New York native that may be playing elsewhere 124 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: in the country, if they happen to be here in 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: town and want to test here today, they can do 126 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: that as well. So just another opportunity to get in 127 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: front of NFL eyeballs, uh and show your wares. 128 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: Man, is Syracuse considered local produce? 129 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember if they are considered to be 130 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: in the territory. They may not be, but I thought 131 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: I thought they were. I could be wrong on that, 132 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: and Syracuse has their own pro Day quite frankly, so 133 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: I would not anticipate many of them. You know, showing 134 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: up for this for sure. 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: I mean one of those Syracuse kids if they couldn't, 136 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: if they weren't healthy or couldn't for some reason get 137 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: to the Syracuse Pro. 138 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Day, Yeah, maybe that would be a yeah difficulty. Hey hey, 139 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: can I show up right? And you know there's sometimes 140 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: d two kids here. I remember several years ago there 141 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: were a couple of kids that came up from Edinburgh 142 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: University just over the PA state line and came up 143 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: to work out. Uh so yeah, I mean it's you 144 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get all the time. I mean, 145 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: but knowing the Bill's history with University of Buffalo players, 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean cam Lewis, JaMarcus Ingram, Joe Andreeson, none of 147 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: them were draft choices, but they're all on Buffalo's fifty 148 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: three man roster last year. 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: So I'll say this, you can you construct you know, 150 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: fans can shrug their shoulder and say, you know who 151 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: they gonna find it. They don't do this just because 152 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: it's nice. They they're looking at these guys for real, 153 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: looking at them. They're not just doing them a favor 154 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: by letting them work out for a pro team. Yeah, 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: they don't do that they don't play that. If you're here, 156 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: they're really looking at you. And that's kind of cool 157 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: to think about. I know, when I with the things 158 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: we were talking about, every time you work out for 159 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: one of those guys, man, you you felt like you 160 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: were on Man, I gotta I gotta get. This is 161 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: my hopes and dreams all tied up into this one 162 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: forty time or whatever. 163 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: And I know not everybody in Western New York is 164 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: glued to the University of Buffalo, but Dolak was a 165 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: first team All American. He is the only UB player 166 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: in the history of the school to be a first 167 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: team All American and he was All SO Mid American 168 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Conference Defensive Player of the Year. The guy had one hundred. 169 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: And sixty eight tackles this season. That's a lot. Yeah, 170 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't care how you count it. That's 171 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: a lot. 172 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: And he had one hundred and seventy seven interception return 173 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: yards but he saw as one that he took back 174 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. That was amass to do. 175 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: Is look at the roster and it'll tell you how 176 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: much of a chance these guys have. It's real, yeah, 177 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 2: so really cool. 178 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: So wish them the best of luck. That you know 179 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: they put their best numbers out there on the field. 180 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: Today saw an interesting article that ESPN put together their 181 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: final Draft Buzz column with what the intel is around 182 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: the league about each team's leanings in the draft, especially 183 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: in Round one. For the Bills. ESPN NFL Draft analyst 184 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Matt Miller offered this with ten picks, including the two 185 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: second rounders. Expect the Bills to be active and aggressive. 186 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: Quote. 187 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if they're a team trying to move 188 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: up in round one for an impact defense of players 189 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: set a scout from a rival team. The Bills have 190 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: clear needs at cornerback and defensive tackle. Aggressive and active Steve, 191 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: what do you think about that characterization? I'm gonna be 192 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: getting a little giddy. Did you get chicken skin. 193 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: From the No, I'm just I think I'm gonna be 194 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: right again. 195 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: Oh that they're not gonna pick it thirty. 196 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: They're not gonna pick a thirty. 197 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: It's crazy, though, because the general consensus of this draft 198 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: class is it's gonna be hard to get what you're 199 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: looking for if you're looking to move out of a 200 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: high spot in round one. But in the bottom half 201 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: of round one, you know where the asking price is 202 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: considerably less. You might see a little bit more movement. 203 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's you can look at. You can talk yourself 204 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: into both things. Are there gonna be more people looking 205 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: to move back because they're gonna be able to get 206 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: good value and then add some assets, some draft assets 207 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: in later. Yere's all that. It's all on the table. 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: And or you can say, gotta move up and get 209 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: to get a really good guy. You gotta really move up. 210 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a move back draft rather than a 211 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: move up draft. Yeah, I think it's a move up 212 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,239 Speaker 2: draft a backdraft. 213 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I was leaning all along. And I 214 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: still think there are gonna be teams in the top 215 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: of the second round that are gonna be looking to 216 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: get up somewhere between twenty eight and thirty two. 217 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Bill's phone is going to be ringing. 218 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, along with the Detroit Lions, the Washington Commander is 219 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. Right, So 220 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: those teams that have the last five picks in the round, 221 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna get a lot of phone calls when it 222 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: gets to about pick twenty two from teams in round two. 223 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: And as always, the quarterback class always kind of bends 224 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: the first round into a different shape, a unique shape. 225 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: You know. Lamar Jackson Baltimore traded back to get the 226 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: thirty second, traded back into the first round to get 227 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: the thirty second pick so they could grab him and 228 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: get the extra year. All that stuff that's gonna happen again. 229 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go around the NFL centered by Kalida Health, 230 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Joe Flacco is. 231 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: Back in Cleveland, Hello, Cleveland. 232 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: After winning Comeback Player of the Year with the Browns 233 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: when he led them to the playoffs in twenty twenty three. 234 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: Flacco signed with the Colts last year through a nice 235 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: pick six to Tarren Johnson. But he is back with 236 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland after signing a one year deal worth four million dollars. 237 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: And to me, this is this is their backstop at 238 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: the position. You know, he's their backstop because we're presuming 239 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna draft one somewhere, maybe not at two, but 240 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: maybe in round two or maybe in the bottom of 241 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: round one if they trade up. So this is their 242 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: fallback option, Joe Flacco, because he was a really good 243 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: fallback option for him two years ago. 244 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: He can sling it. He can't move at all. I mean, 245 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: I am sure, Brownie, you could run circles around him. 246 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: But I'll say this, I have always said this about 247 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: Joe flat He can sling it. You know, he can 248 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: sling it. He has got an accurate he is. He 249 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: can when he was at the peak of his game 250 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: when they won the Super Bowl and with him as 251 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: quarterback in Baltimore, that guy could really sling it. And 252 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: there's still some of that left in the tank. And 253 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: you know, you see these highlights of him throwing it 254 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: for the Colts two years ago or I'm sorry last 255 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: year and the Browns two years ago. I mean, the 256 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: guy won the Comeback Player of the Year two years 257 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: ago because he played so well for them, got him 258 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: to the playoffs. Yeah, he's he does have something left 259 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 2: in the tank. But man, oh man, to see him 260 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: still hanging around. Here's the problem with the You bring 261 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: these guys like Joe Flacco in and you know, they say, 262 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: they say, the Colts pick in this draft, and the 263 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: draft falls their way and it gets to the top 264 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: and they get down to any Napolis and they're at 265 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: fourteen and like we've heard, maybe possibility Shaduur Sanders is there, 266 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: so they take Shadeur. Let me say tell you them, 267 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: as good as Shaduur Sanders might be, it's gonna be 268 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: hard to outshine Joe Flacco in training camp. 269 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: Well, now you're putting him on the Colt and the brown. 270 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the Browns. So the Cleveland Browns take him 271 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: at two. It's hard for a young quarterback. I'm watching 272 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colt highlights. I'm sorry. So it's hard for 273 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: a guy like Shaduur Sanders come in and automatically just 274 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: pick up and beat out a guy like Joe flaccol 275 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: because so much of the quarterback position is between your 276 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: ears and Joe's got. 277 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Well he's he's forgotten more than Sanders knows about the pro. 278 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: And so then that then where you're sitting there at Cleveland, Now, 279 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Because you know Cleveland fans 280 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: are going to be banging the table wanting to see Shadour. 281 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: That's where these teams fold under the pressure. 282 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Steve, because I know you're 283 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: a big proponent of this theory because right now, and 284 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: I had just heard it this morning on with Jeremy 285 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: and Joe they had a draft analyst on and he 286 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: was saying from people that he trusts that, you know, 287 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: have the ear of NFL personnel people and really gets 288 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: good intel. Shadur Sanders has basically got a range of 289 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: pick two to pick forty right, which is a little unusual. 290 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: He's not going forty, so I know, I know that, 291 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think it speaks to 292 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: the difference of opinion on him as a prospect. And look, 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: we all know that quarterbacks value gets inflated the night 294 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: draft night comes because people have to have the quarterback, 295 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: and if they believe that guy is the guy, they 296 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: inevitably make the pick and take the risk. All that 297 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: being said, though, if Shadur had a cool nickname like Primetime, 298 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: he would he have been a lock for the second pick, 299 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely second pick. 300 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: His if his name would have been six Shooter instead 301 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: of instead of Shadure, six Shooter Sanders. 302 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it. He made He made 303 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: second pick of the draft. 304 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: He's the first pick of the drift. He's the first 305 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: pick of the dude. 306 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: He's the although you can't do that in the NFL 307 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: first weapons. 308 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: Think about that. I'm telling the draft he would be 309 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: nickname Abdul Carter. I'm telling you for those for those nicknames, forget, 310 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: you drafted significantly higher. 311 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: For those that don't know, this is Steve's ongoing theory 312 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: that if you have a good nickname, it is at 313 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: least a half around boost and where you are taking 314 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: off the board sometimes and this was very popular in 315 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: the draft where we had Sauce Gardner who went third overall, 316 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: Cadillac Cadillac Williams, Yeah, go down the list, pork chock 317 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Bullmack wasn't as successful. 318 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: He was a third round pick. It doesn't matter where 319 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: how success you're not going to be successful to you're 320 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: get inflated draft value because of your nickname. 321 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you Prime Time lived up to it. 322 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: Though. 323 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: Yes he was every bit of it. Second second pick 324 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: in the drag, which is why, which is yeah he was, 325 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: he was. Yeah, he was a Hall of famer before 326 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: he was eligible to be a Hall of famer. Yeah. 327 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: And so there's a little yes, Brownie, I'm telling you're right, 328 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: a great nickname gets a lot of miles. 329 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Should have had a nickname. He could have been a 330 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: lock top five pick. Now he's a little he's a maybe. Yeah, 331 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: he's a maybe because he's just. 332 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: Going by I mean now I'm now I'm which is 333 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: a little disappointed. 334 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: His dad had one of the best nicknames ever. 335 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 2: Right, I'm a law at a loss for you know, 336 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: some of the other nicknames we've seen get drafted that, 337 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: you know, but there's a ton of them, and a 338 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: lot of them you'll see a lot of them just 339 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: don't live up to having a flashy nickname. 340 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I like the theory true. Nonetheless, 341 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: it's it's been proven exactly. 342 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: It's not a Yeah, it's science. 343 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Perhaps the only scientific thing truly tied to the draft. 344 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: Houston Texans safety Jalen Petrie just signed a three year, 345 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: thirty nine million dollar extension, So the Texans locking up 346 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: the most important pieces of their secondary because if you remember, 347 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: they just signed top corner Derek Stingley to a three 348 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: year extension just last month. Petrie though a very versatile player. 349 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: He not only plays safety for them, but nickel corner 350 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: as well, a really really versatile player. Yeah, so I 351 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: totally understand that extension. 352 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And it's three years, thirty nine million, it's 353 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: thirteen a year's safety is big. 354 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's more than that. He's like a safety and 355 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: a nickel corner combined. So yeah, that's that's market setting 356 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: money though it is. 357 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: But it's also a statement about Houston that and known 358 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: how valuable a guy is to them, and they believe 359 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: he is. I don't know that he who knows what 360 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: the contrast's going to turn out to be. But they 361 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: like the guy. They think he's important, ye, and they 362 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: rewarded him for it. Do you think they came in 363 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean, what about the timing? Should they have done 364 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: this like earlier before other conra You know. 365 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I just I think they had a list. They probably 366 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: had a short list of guys they wanted to lock up, 367 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: and they just kind of happened in their own time, 368 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: I think. 369 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: And it's easy to sit here and say, I love 370 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: the way the Bills get that done early. Man, you 371 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: got to get your guys tied up before they start to. 372 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: And and the Texans and a handful of other teams 373 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: have gone this route this year and what was widely 374 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: considered a week free agent class, A lot of teams 375 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: just looked at their own roster and said, our guys 376 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: just as good, lock him, him, him and him up. Yeah, 377 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: a lot of teams did. 378 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: That, and there's a lot of this. They signed Khalil 379 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: secure to an extension before t Higgins, before Jamar the combine. Yeah, 380 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: they did it way early. I think that's the way 381 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: to do it. Get them as soon as you're eligible 382 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: to do it. If you if they're a guy, you're 383 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: going to get get them and know that you're at 384 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: the end of the deal. It's going to be a bargain. 385 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 386 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: The NFL has now requested tapes of the nine to 387 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: one one call made by the mother in law of 388 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill after police were called to Hill's home for 389 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: a domestic dispute between him and his wife. No charges 390 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: were filed, but according to a police report, Hill was 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: quote very aggressive and impulsive, and his mother in law, 392 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: who was in the home at the time, was afraid 393 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: for her daughter. 394 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: So not stuff you like to hear. 395 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: According to Hill's mother in law, Hill and his wife 396 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: got into an argument, he threw her laptop to the 397 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: floor before grabbing their four month old daughter, and so 398 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: it's just you never want to hear this kind of 399 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: stuff happening for anybody. But apparently, according to TMZ, Tyreek 400 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: Hill has been served with divorce papers by his wife, 401 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: So the wheels might be in motion there already. You 402 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: don't like to see it anywhere. So hopefully that gets 403 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: sorted out. But Hill could face disciplinary action from the 404 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: NFL even if no charges are filed under the Personal 405 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: Conduct policy. He could miss some time. 406 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: It's rough. I don't know. I don't even want to 407 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: talk about stuff like that. 408 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there's another example of this because former Texas wide 409 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: receiver and NFL draft prospect Isaiah Bond turned himself in 410 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: on an outstanding sexual assault war on Thursday to Frisco, 411 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: Texas Police. ESPN confirmed that that happened. Bond was subsequently 412 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: released from jail after posting bail. Details of the allegations 413 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: against Bond weren't immediately known in a statement, though, and 414 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: Bond put a statement out pretty quickly said the accusation 415 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: against him is quote patently false. So not good timing 416 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: there as the draft sits two weeks away, so it'll 417 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how and if this impacts his 418 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: draft stock. I can tell you right now there's some 419 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: teams that just don't want any part of that. 420 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: Stuff, and absolutely they don't need the drama. 421 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: They'll take them right off the board. 422 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, they won't even touch them. And and I think 423 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 2: there are and listen, every you can throw guys that 424 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: are have problems. And I'm not saying that Isaiah bond Is is. 425 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: He may be telling the truth. We the Bills have 426 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: been through that when they when they drafted mattter Riza, 427 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: and then after they drafted him, all of a sudden, 428 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: this thing blows up. They cut him and it turns 429 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: out he was nothing happened, he was exonerated. It's just 430 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: an It's just an ugly and uncomfortable situation. You got 431 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: guys that are sitting there going home to their wife 432 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: and families, and their wives are going, what about this guy? 433 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: You know? Why? Why? You know? Why do you have 434 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: to be you know what I mean? So it puts 435 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: pressure on him not only at work, but also at home. 436 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 2: It's something they all have to deal with because on 437 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: a football team, you really do your best to earn 438 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: love and respect from your teammates. And when there's stuff 439 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: that gets in the way of that or puts that 440 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: in doubt, man, it's a problem. It's a problem. 441 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: One final note from around the NFL. The Indianapolis Colts, 442 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: who have tight end as a positional need entering the 443 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: draft just made it less of one after re signing 444 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: veteran tight end Moali Cox. Ali Cox has spent all 445 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: seven seasons of his NFL career with the Colts. He 446 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: is a giant human being. Like you know, you say 447 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: it all the time. When you go down on the field, 448 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: you get a much greater respect for just how humongous 449 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: these humans are. And Moali Cox is a legit six 450 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: to seven, almost six 's eight. I mean it's like 451 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: you're walking next to an NBA player. He's he's ridiculous 452 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: how tall he is. And I don't know if it 453 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: always shows up on television, but when you're down on 454 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: the sideline before a game, you notice, like you're worried 455 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: about that guy hitting his head on the doorway on 456 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: the way through. 457 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: There are guys who look the part. He's one of them. 458 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: He's even on a bunch, even on a football field 459 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 2: full of NFL football players, he looks like the only 460 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: NFL football player out there. Yeah, you know that's that 461 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: those kind of guys stand out, So yeah, well there 462 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: you go. 463 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: The only other guy who looked big like that to 464 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: me was like Mario Williams when he was here Cam Newton, 465 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Like you stand on the sideline next to Cam Newton. 466 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: It's just like, Okay, he's taking snaps. This guy's from 467 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: another planet. 468 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's guys like that out there. Kalais Campbell 469 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 2: is like that. 470 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 471 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: Greg Russeau is a tall dude, Like, yeah, he stands out. 472 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: But you know Greg's got that slender bill that kind 473 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: of tempers the shock factor. 474 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's the one part. 475 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: Of the fun though about who is that? Like, who 476 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 2: who is that? Where did they grow him? 477 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: Like? 478 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: Man, oh man, It's true, it happens, it's and it's uh, 479 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: it's part of the uniqueness of the sport is absolut 480 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: This look a little bit like the NBA in that respect. 481 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: All Right, it is Friday, and you know what that means. 482 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: The OBL Friday fan mailbag is open. Any questions that 483 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: you have on the bills, the NFL draft, free agency, 484 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: the league at large, rule changes, whatever you got on 485 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: your mind. This is your opportunity to fire away at 486 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: us at eight h three oh five point fifty one 487 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: eighty eight, five point fifty two, five fifty those are 488 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: the numbers to jump on board with us. And we 489 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: do have open lines for you right now, so feel 490 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: free to chime in at your leisure. We also take 491 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: questions on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. So 492 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: if you don't have a chance to give us a 493 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: call because you're a worker, whatever, fire off a question 494 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: to us there. We should also tell you. Coming up 495 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: second hour of the show, our good friend Greg Cosell 496 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: will join us senior producer from NFL Films, as we 497 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: will go over the latest position group of prospects in 498 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: the upcoming draft class. Today we talk receiver, So all 499 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: of you crazies who are out there on the receiver train, 500 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: we're here to serve you. I think if a receiver 501 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Steve is going to go early in the draft to 502 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: the Bills, I think the place where it's most likely 503 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: to happen is at the bottom of round two. That's 504 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: where I think the greatest likelihood, right of a receiver 505 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: being drafted happened for Buffalo. 506 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 2: Number fifty six or sixty two. 507 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: And I'm almost thinking sixty two, right, like if the 508 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: right you know what I mean, If the value is 509 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: not good at some of the other need positions, but 510 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: it's good there and there's indication that there'll be a 511 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: cluster of players in that range at the position. 512 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: So what if the Bills trade out of the thirtieth 513 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: pick and get like we'll say they get the forty 514 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: something pick. 515 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: And an extra three or some extra three and a three. Yeah, 516 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's still true. I mean, I 517 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: guess it could be the third round. But I've heard 518 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: that there's probably a cluster of half a dozen players 519 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: who are expected to go in the bottom half of 520 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Round two at the receiver position. There's something that's gonna 521 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: go in the top half too, but there's gonna be 522 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: a cluster there. 523 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: And you know how you and I had this conversation. 524 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: I think off the air yesterday. It's gonna happen. That 525 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: run on defensive tackles is gonna happen. And this what's 526 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: gonna happen in the twenties, and like just like it 527 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: did last year with the receiver, six out of some 528 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: ten picks are gonna be that position, and everybody every 529 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: other draft room is gonna be lighting it on fire 530 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: thinking their guy's gonna get picked, so they're gonna start 531 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: moving around. Yeah, that's what's gonna hap That may happen, 532 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: But the receiver train, I'll listen to it. Yeah, I'm 533 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: okay with it, but they I still don't think that's 534 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: gonna be the first guy there. 535 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: If they make a receiver pick at sixty two, I'm 536 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: just hoping the first two picks are defense. So lots 537 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: of the first two picks are defense. 538 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 2: That's right. 539 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: Knock yourself out if you like somebody there at sixty 540 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: two at receiver. 541 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: But it's amazing. Though we sit here and talk like 542 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: and we believe I'm with you. I'm almost like I'm 543 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: tense inside thinking they got to take a defensive player, 544 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: and then you know, rarely, they never they never take 545 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: the guys I think I'm never right. So when they 546 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 2: do that, you're like going, oh my gosh, like what 547 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: do we do it? 548 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: And then it just ratchets up the pressure for the next. 549 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: Pick, right, and then you just and then. 550 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: Then you're on pins and needles the rest of the night. 551 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: It's just or for overnight because because round two and 552 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: three or the. 553 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: Next day they trade out of it. Last ye week, 554 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: it was last year. We were doing a show last year, live, 555 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: a live draft show last year, and we all sit 556 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: there and they traded out, like, oh my god, serious, 557 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: do we go home. What do we do? They traded 558 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: back and then back again, and then out of the round. 559 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: We thought, okay, we're still in it. Here we go, 560 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 2: and then they traded again. I was like, we've been 561 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: sitting here for We're. 562 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: Sitting here for four hours, and it's like, what do 563 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: we do? 564 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: Do we go home? Do we talk about this? Thanks 565 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: for joining us, They didn't pick anybody. Good night, every 566 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: good night, everybody could happen again. It could happen again. 567 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: It could and I think it will. So I'm whatever. 568 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm eight oh three five eight five fifty two five fifty. 569 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones, and leading us off today 570 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: is Kevin and Hamburg. What do you have for Kevin? 571 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 6: You want to naga my call? Sure, definitely. I want 572 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: the first two to be defense, absolutely, either alignment the 573 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 6: first defensive lineman in the first one and thirty and 574 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: a cornerback in the first second, or a cornerback in 575 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 6: the first second and alignment the yeah. Yeah, as far 576 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 6: into the third round, I guess yeah. A lot of 577 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 6: people talked on the phone about the third round. But 578 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 6: the problem is the third round and unless you go up, 579 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 6: you'll be stuck in like eighty nine or ninety. I'm 580 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 6: never going with the numbers of the third round eighty eight, 581 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 6: and you don't want Ben to be weighing down that 582 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 6: far unless you can jump out of the first fourth 583 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 6: round and get into the mid third round, like forget 584 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 6: about the you grew up to like eighty nine or 585 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 6: ninety four. You know what I'm saying. 586 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we were talking about that yesterday, Kevin, and 587 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. We were talking about that yesterday 588 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: on the show. Because I believe, just based on everybody 589 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: I've talked to at the combine and just you know 590 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: here and there that are plugged in, the general consensus 591 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: is that there is a drop off just an overall 592 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: draft talent from round three to four. There are still 593 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: some guys with starter potential in round four. They're not 594 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: gonna have it right away, but round two and three 595 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 1: is like the meat and potatoes of this draft class. 596 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: And the Bills don't have a pick in round three 597 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: right now, but they have seven picks on Day three, 598 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: and I could see them parlaying a couple of those, 599 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: maybe even as many as three of them, to jump 600 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: back into round three to get one extra player that 601 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: can help them sooner rather than later. A year or 602 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: two down the line. 603 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, we all know and we believe we've been 604 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: talking about ten guys aren't out of this draft. Even 605 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: if they make all ten of these picks right where 606 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: they're at, they're not all going to make this team. 607 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: There's just not enough room for them. 608 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: And you just drafted ten last. 609 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: Year, right, and so you may or all of our 610 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: thoughts are you may as well trade anything from the 611 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 2: fifth round down on any of those five picks, or 612 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: maybe even the second fourth round, one thirty two all 613 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: the way through two oh six, trade all of them 614 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: away and try and jump up as high as you 615 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: can and then make your draft class five instead of ten. 616 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: You know, at least you have five guys with a 617 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: shot at it. Right, that's kind of one of the philosophy. 618 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: And that's a little bit exaggerated. You're not gonna be 619 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: able to do that cleanly. Well, maybe seven, but maybe 620 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: you know, that's the kind of the philosophy. So fewer 621 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: players have that have a better chance to make your squad. 622 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you can do it. 623 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here, but we have open lines 624 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: for you at eight h three h five fifty one 625 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two, five point fifty. Any 626 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: question on your mind, The OBL Friday fan mail bag 627 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: is open for you to ask them. We'll get to 628 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: your phone calls next. Here on One Bill's Live, presented 629 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: by Colida of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right 630 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: back here on One Bill's Live. On an OBL Friday 631 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: fan mail bang Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Any 632 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: question you've got under the sun about the Bills, the Draft, 633 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: the League at large. You name it, Steve and I 634 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: are here to answer it for you. At eight oh three, 635 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, 636 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: five fifty. Those are the numbers to join us, and 637 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: we do have open lines for you, so if you 638 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: have a question, fire away. We also take questions on 639 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: the tweetsheet at One Bill's Live, so if you can't 640 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: give us a call, that is another outlet for you 641 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: to ask your question. There is a report and I'll 642 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: the credit Ryan Fouler from the Draft Network for this one. 643 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: He is reporting that the Bills are going to host 644 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: Texas A and m Edge rusher Shamar Stewart for a 645 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: pre draft visit tomorrow. Stewart has been making the rounds 646 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: this week. I've seen him, you know, making visits to 647 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: a handful of teams, And this guy is a bit 648 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: of a mystery because unbelievable physical talent, but the production 649 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: is not there. Obviously played in a major conference in 650 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: the SEC at Texas A and M six four two 651 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: eighty and is built like an adonnas tested off the charts, 652 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: but very often if and I've watched some of his tape, 653 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: I know you have two Steve. He looks like a 654 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: guy that doesn't always have a pass, rush plan. Counter 655 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: moves don't seem to be part of his arsenal yet Either. 656 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: Technique is not his strong suit. 657 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: As far as ceiling though it is virtually unlimited. So 658 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: if you feel you have a coaching staff that is 659 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: good at developing players, and I would put the bill 660 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: on that list. You want to get to know this 661 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: guy and what makes him tick and to see if 662 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: the self motivation is there to become great and do 663 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: all the things necessary to reach that ceiling. Yeah, that's 664 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: why you're bringing him in right. 665 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: Exactly, if you if there's if the lights are on upstairs, 666 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: like if he's young to the position, or if he 667 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: didn't you know, if he wasn't getting coached the right 668 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: way if there's some sort of loophole as to why 669 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: he didn't. And here's the thing, you don't really he's healthy, 670 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: he's physical, he's got all these gifts, and he's all 671 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: over the field when you watch film, except that he's 672 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: one of those guys is kind of always around it, 673 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: never in it, you know what I mean. He's always 674 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: a little late to the party, or he misses a tackle, 675 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: can't or he just doesn't see stuff. There's some reason 676 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't have a gazillion sacks. 677 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: And these pre draft visits are designed to get to 678 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: the bottom of that because they'll sit him down, they'll 679 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: put him on the board and see what he knows 680 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: and how fast he can learn. They'll also ask him, hey, 681 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: here's some tape of you. How were you coached on 682 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: plays like this? What were you coached to do here? 683 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 2: That's right. 684 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: See, then they get a sense as to how he 685 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: was coached. Okay, they didn't really teach him anything on this. 686 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: They just told him go get the quarterback. 687 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 2: And they'll also find out and this, you know, building 688 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 2: in particular, they'll find out how he learns best, whether 689 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: it's on film, whether it's walking through it, whether it's 690 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: seeing other guys walk through it, whether it's full speed practice. 691 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: However they learn, however he learned, you know, whether it's 692 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: looking at it on a page, however he learns best. 693 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: They'll maximize that environment for him, so he'll learn faster. 694 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: That's all in the mix and the recipe. So they're 695 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: going to bring him in and talk to him and 696 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: find out what kind of guy he is. And that's 697 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: really the basis for how big a chance he's got 698 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: to be in a buffalo bill? And I'll sell you 699 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: what he's going to be available. 700 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: Do you think he gets to thirty? 701 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. His physical gifts are so elite. 702 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: If he I think someone's gonna believe we can make 703 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: a ripper star players, that's. 704 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: Right, you may be right there. And if if he does, 705 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 2: that means one of the guys who is more proven 706 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: is going to drop. Yeah, you know a guy without 707 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 2: you know, right, he's Jadavian Clowney. 708 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: That's a good comp Yeah, that's Ja Clowney, a guy 709 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: who's he went first overall. 710 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: But you know what he's bounced around. Yeah, he's a 711 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: mercenary a little bit yep, you know he's for hire 712 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 2: and he's had a nice career. Believe he's been made 713 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 2: his money. He's made money. But you know, you think about. 714 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: He's not a household name though the way he wasn't coming. 715 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: And let me say this, you talk about gifted. That 716 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: dude was gifted. Oh yeah, So in that regard, Jamar 717 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 2: Stewart may be a top ten pick. If they're going 718 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: just on physical traits, we'll see, because nobody can touch 719 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: that dude physically. It'll be interesting for sure. 720 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones, though, and to Mark in 721 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: West Seneca. What's up? Mark? 722 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how are you hey? I called the other 723 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 7: day and I tried to explain. I think I confuse you, guys. 724 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 7: I had a plan on trying to get four second 725 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 7: round picks. I don't know if you remember that. Yeah, 726 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 7: and you guys since then have basically laid out the 727 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 7: first half of what I was saying. Try to trade 728 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 7: back out of the first round into the second, get 729 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 7: a second and possibly a third. Okay, if you can 730 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 7: do that, then my plan was to take that third 731 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 7: and maybe our two fours if you have to, or 732 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 7: whatever combination of lower round picks that we have, and 733 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 7: then move back up into the second again, okay, and 734 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 7: end up with four two's. And if they were able 735 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 7: to navigate that find partners to make these trades, then 736 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 7: that's when I would be willing to pick a wide 737 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 7: out high, get a wide out and three defensive players. 738 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 7: At that point, I get that. 739 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 2: I'll say this, though, you're probably not going to get 740 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 2: a one and a three to move back like three spots. 741 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: Well, he's you know, into the second if you move 742 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: I think we talked about this after his phone call. 743 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: If you move from thirty to say forty, you know 744 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: somewhere in the forties, right, you're moving back more than 745 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: ten picks. 746 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 2: But it's also the top third of the ste. 747 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: That's a long way for that team to come up. 748 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: So you can get a three and there two for 749 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: your one if you move back somewhere in the forties, 750 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: because that's a long way for a team to come up. 751 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a grade three. You'll get a 752 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: three in the bottom half of the round. But just 753 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: have a three now and then he's saying take that 754 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: three with some of your Day three capital and jump 755 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: back into the second round. So you have four total 756 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: picks in round two. That's a lot of maneuvering. I'm 757 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: not saying it's impossible. And Brandon Bean has traded down 758 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: and then back up before he has done that, not 759 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: get it. 760 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: But problem isn't your willingness to do that. The problem 761 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 2: is finding two separate or maybe the same part trade 762 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: part right. 763 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: And I think I think the bottom of round two 764 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: is going to be a very popular area. I think 765 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: it'll be harder to get into the bottom of round 766 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: two then it will be to get into bottom of 767 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: round one. A number of players that are considered to 768 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: be of that value, if that makes sense. 769 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: If you get into the bottom half of round two, 770 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: if you get to like the Bill sixty, the fifty 771 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 2: six and the sixty two picks, you still can't get 772 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: back into You can't even get back into the first round. 773 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: Well, no, he's not looking to do that. 774 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's the value. That's how fast the 775 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: value drops. You can't take two seconds and get into 776 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: the first. 777 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: Not down there. 778 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: You can't take two at the bottom of the number 779 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 2: two round like the fifty six and the sixty two 780 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: pick that Buffalo has. Both of them together won't get 781 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: you into the first round. That won't get you into 782 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 2: the first round. Let's go to that's the value drop 783 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: you're talking about. 784 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Stan in Ransomville next. What's up Stan? 785 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, good afternoon. I'm calling about games Cook. I don't 786 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 5: know how this extent and is gone. But if there 787 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 5: for her part and they're gonna let him walk at 788 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 5: the end of the year, wouldn't it be smart to 789 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 5: get something for him now in a trade and like 790 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 5: you know, draft choices or whatever, and then you got 791 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 5: more then you got more capital. 792 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple of different ways to look at 793 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: that stand. That's one way you can look at it 794 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: and say, look, let's just try to get something for 795 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: him now. You're also trying to win in twenty twenty 796 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: five and he was a big part of you winning 797 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: last year. And even if you don't come to an 798 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: agreement on an extension before this season, James Cook's got 799 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: to show out in the last year of his contract 800 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: if he wants to get a big contract, either with 801 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: the Bills or in free agency next year. So there's 802 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: incentive for him to perform even if he doesn't have 803 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: an extension. And then even when you get to the 804 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: end of next season, you could talk extension with him 805 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: then and even if that doesn't go well, you could 806 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: franchise tag him and then do a sign in trade 807 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: so you get something for him in return. So your 808 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: way is one way, but there are a multitude of 809 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: other ways that you could play this. 810 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: And a little bit of it has to do with 811 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 2: if you believe. If James Cook makes the Bills believe 812 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: he will not play this year under the last year 813 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 2: of his contract. 814 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: Then that could prompt your scenario to be more. 815 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: That it could prompt your scenario to be Yeah, he 816 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: could maybe do his best by saying that or doing 817 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: that to force a trade, and that may facilitate movement. Yeah, 818 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: so yeah, you're right if it could have, depending on 819 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: how unhappy he is and what his stance is, could 820 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 2: be the key ingredient to his movement to another team 821 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: or to be traded in whatever shape that takes, trade 822 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: or whatever. 823 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's squeeze in Alex and Charlotte here. 824 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: What do you got for? 825 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: Is Alex here on One Bill's Live. 826 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 8: Hey guys, thanks for having me on. I had a 827 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 8: question about the Connor McGovern and Van Pran Grainger. I 828 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 8: know when we drafted Grainger, they said it was a 829 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 8: steal getting them where we got. He was a starting center. 830 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 8: I've seen some reports or rumors that we're looking to 831 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 8: extend McGovern I was wondering if maybe the future is 832 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 8: do we push Governor back to guard and then start 833 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 8: praying Grainger at center and maybe that alleviates having to 834 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 8: draft a guard in this year, or at least make 835 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 8: it a big deal. We'd like to hear your guys' thoughts. 836 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 4: Thank you. 837 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't. 838 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out, Alex, it is an option 839 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: to move mcgovernor back to guard. I would like to 840 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: think that Josh Allen would have something to say about 841 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: that conversation because it does directly impact him. But Pran Grainger, 842 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: while I think he could be serviceable at guard, his 843 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: best position is in the pivot at center. I think 844 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 1: it's going to largely depend on how much he comes 845 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: along and develops in year two, even if he's not 846 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: playing games. You know, it's hey, coach Cromer, how is 847 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: Van pran Granger coming along? Is he ready to play 848 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: in games? Do we think he has starter potential? Could 849 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: he be starting as soon as next year? 850 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 2: Okay? What are our alternatives? 851 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: Because David Edwards is in the last year of his 852 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: contract coming up here at guard. Starting left guard. Alec 853 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: Anderson is on a one year deal and he's largely 854 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: a guard when he plays, although he can play center also, 855 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: so you can make the argument to consider that track, 856 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 1: and yeah, you could, you would be right. You also 857 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: have a player in Osiris Torrance who is going to 858 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: be completing his third year and after this season you 859 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: may be looking to extend him in the same way 860 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: that you extended all those other players after their third 861 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: season this offseason. 862 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: So there's a lot to talk about guard to guard there. 863 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: David Edwards up after this year, Alec Anderson up after 864 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: this year, and McGovern without an extension. 865 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: Up after this year. 866 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: So what is your future plan going forward? Good question, 867 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 1: And I don't know that they know the answer to 868 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: that yet because I want to. I think they want 869 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: to see how some of those young guys come along 870 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: this year. 871 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: The only thing that that is out there is that 872 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 2: they've got time to do that, and there are things 873 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 2: that are more forward on the on the stove and 874 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: things more on the front burner than what they're going 875 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 2: to do after this year. With Van Prant, you know, 876 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 2: with Cedric with mccon, Connor McGovern and then of course 877 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 2: David Edwards. They do have some players in the pipeline, 878 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: no question about it. They've got to feel good where 879 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: they're at right now. So I don't think they're gonna 880 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: address and they may be talking to McGovern right now 881 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 2: about it, you know, I would end again. I kind 882 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 2: of think they'll probably add on to his current deal, 883 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 2: like give him an extra two years now. I don't 884 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: think they want to wait or tear it up and 885 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 2: give him like a four year deal right now because 886 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: of his age kind of thing. We'll see, but we'll see. 887 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: You're right though, at some point they're going to have 888 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: to address that, particularly with the contract. This really staring 889 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: him in the faces, David Edwards. This is the last 890 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 2: year of it, and they something's gotta happen before you know, 891 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 2: twenty six. 892 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 1: We have to take a break. When we come back. 893 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: More of your phone calls, Randy and Amhurst, Carol and Pittsford. 894 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: We'll get to you when we return. On an Obel 895 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: Friday fan mail Bag edition of One Bill's Live, presented 896 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: by to Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All 897 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: right back here on an obl Friday fan mail bag 898 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: and gonna get right back to the phones for your questions, 899 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: and we go to Randy in Amhurst. Punch him up. 900 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 1: What do you offer us? Randy? 901 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 2: How you doing? Guys? Thanks for having me on, Randy? 902 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: Are you there? He's there right here, I'm there here, 903 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 2: hear me? Yeah, go ahead, Randy, Brandy can't do missing 904 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: his iph. 905 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 9: Yeah. 906 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 3: I just feel that this Bill's played great last year. 907 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 3: Offensive line was good, receivers got open, running backs were good. 908 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: I think our. 909 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 3: Defensive line just definitely didn't come to play every game. 910 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: And two defensive tackles that weigh over three hundred and 911 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 3: twenty pounds probably be the best fit for the Bills 912 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 3: at this point. 913 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: To me, I would agree, and I yeah, they do 914 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 2: need some big bodies down inside. And the question is 915 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 2: if you get two of them, what do you do 916 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 2: with the top three picks? Who's the third picket of 917 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 2: that group? There? He wants ste Lione help. Yeah, he 918 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 2: wanted two big three hundred and twenty plus pounders. 919 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I think the good thing about this 920 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 1: class you can get three techniques that go three fifteen, 921 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: three twenty, and they can offer you some position flex 922 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: somebody like a Derek Harmon, for example, from Oregon, or 923 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: a Josh Farmer from Florida State. 924 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: Those guys go like. 925 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: Three hundred and twenty pounds. They're three techniques by trade. 926 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: But if you need them to hold up a little 927 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: bit as one technique, they could do that. But I 928 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: think you could get at a three technique with some 929 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: girth to them, like a Harmon or a Grant or 930 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: even a Farmer, and you still have time to come 931 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: back in the third round. Again, if you get into 932 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: the third you can get somebody like a Jamari Caldwell 933 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: who goes three hundred and forty pounds, a Dion Walker 934 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: who I think is gonna go much later than he's 935 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: projected here. For MSG viewers, there are wide bodies you 936 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: can get in the thirds and even the fourth round 937 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: that could be your pluggers and your space eater. 938 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: There's tons of big dudes out. Zeke Biggers is a 939 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: guy that's there is from Tech from Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech. 940 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: You've got guys like you know, Zeke Biggers. You've got 941 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 2: who's Cam Jackson, Who's a guy who's six six, three 942 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: forty from Florida, another defensive tackle from Florida. A six' 943 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 2: five but he's you, Know Desmond, wasson. 944 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: But he's, oh that's the fourth that's Push, termainate, right 945 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 1: he's four hundred and twenty one pounds and way in 946 00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: at four to sixty. 947 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 2: Four it is four sixty, four you. Know so there're 948 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: gonna be some big dudes on the, board and you, 949 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 2: know but you, know you want them to be able 950 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 2: to play, good. Right these guys are these guys were 951 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 2: born to be those. Tackles but how good are they 952 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: gonna be depends on what's what's between their. Ears so 953 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 2: there's gonna be some guys that are gonna be very really, 954 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: impressive but their their tape will say. Everything, so, yeah The, 955 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: BILLS i don't know that The bills will get a 956 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 2: guy six five three, forty but they're gonna get some 957 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: guys like, that and they may get but they may 958 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 2: get them in the in those with the fourth rounders 959 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 2: rather than the, yeah two second, rounders because. 960 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: You can get the space eaters later because they're not as. 961 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: Dynamic they serve a, yeah they're Not they're not necessarily 962 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: a three down player. 963 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 2: Either they're gonna have value is reduced on the. Board 964 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 2: they will not have eye popping, numbers, right so their 965 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 2: production is gonna be of a different. 966 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: Sort let's go To carol In pittsford. Next what's Up? 967 00:47:59,520 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 2: Carol? 968 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 9: Hi, Gentlemen, HI i wanted to ask a question about 969 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 9: how the draft. 970 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 2: Operates in terms of, so, Well. 971 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 9: I'll ask that. Question so the worst teams get the best. 972 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 9: Players AND i understand. That what if the best players 973 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 9: don't want to go to the worst? Teams do they 974 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 9: have any? 975 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 2: Choice they cannot? Play that's their only. 976 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: Choice, YEAH i mean there are there have been some 977 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: exceptions over the. Years usually a quarterback can kind of 978 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: play that kind of. Hardball John elway back in the 979 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: eighty three, draft The Indianapolis colts had the first pick 980 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: in the, draft And John elway, said in no uncertain, 981 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: terms AM i ever playing For? Indianapolis they're, HORRIBLE i 982 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: don't like the. Ownership i'm not playing for. Them they 983 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: drafted him, anyway and they eventually traded him to The Denver. 984 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: Broncos AND i don't know if you remember, this but 985 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,280 Speaker 1: back in the two thousand and four, Draft Eli manning, 986 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: SAID i am not playing for The chargers. ORGANIZATION i 987 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: will not do, it no Way. Hose they drafted him, 988 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: anyway and then they orchestrated a trade between them and 989 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: The giants where The chargers Got Philip, rivers who was 990 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback in that same draft, class And Eli manning 991 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: was traded to The giants and the rest is. History 992 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: so there are some extreme. Cases usually a quarterback can orchestrate. 993 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: That most other players are all too happy to take 994 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: the money as being a high draft pick and play 995 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: for a lousy. 996 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 2: Team any player can do, that but they would let 997 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 2: them know pre draft that they have no intention of 998 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,959 Speaker 2: playing for, them so that team would ostensibly not pick 999 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 2: them because they know the kid's gonna sit. Out Bo 1000 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: jackson did it With Tampa. 1001 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: Bay oh that's. RIGHT i forgot About. 1002 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: Bo jackson Because Tampa. 1003 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: Bay had been the drag of the. 1004 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 2: League their their owner was a different kind of dude 1005 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 2: and stole Bo jackson's eligibility in the last part of 1006 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: his senior year because of because of gifts he gave, 1007 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 2: them So bo couldn't play baseball for Or auburn and 1008 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 2: he was boas ticked and he, SAID i, WILL i 1009 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 2: will not play For Tampa bay and they, said, well 1010 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna pick, you and he says you got nothing 1011 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 2: then BECAUSE i ain't playing for, you and subsequently he 1012 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 2: didn't when played, Baseball so uh, yeah the player can do. 1013 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 2: That but if and the player will always his representation 1014 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 2: if he has, it will tell. Him if you don't 1015 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: want to play for a, team you better tell him 1016 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 2: because they're gonna pick you whether he you, know and 1017 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 2: if they do pick, you no other team can pick, 1018 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 2: you so you have to get them to trade you 1019 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: or whatever. Whatever so most, players the only time it's 1020 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 2: really an, Issue, carol is if it's like the top 1021 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 2: guy in the, draft like A Bo jackson or A. 1022 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: John laway Or Eli, Manning, Yes. 1023 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 2: Eli, manning those top guys because the teams are so 1024 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 2: invested in getting that pick right they want to take 1025 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 2: the best player. Possible, now if it's if it's a 1026 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 2: dude like, me he's gonna get picked to one hundred 1027 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: and twenty sixth overall and you, Say i'm. NOT i 1028 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 2: don't want to play for you. Guys it's, unusual BUT 1029 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 2: i don't want to play for you. Guys that's. Fine 1030 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 2: we'll pick the next. Jamoke you, know they don't. Care 1031 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: we got like twenty guys we can pick at this. 1032 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 2: Spot and then you're. Out so it really only happens 1033 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: at the very top of the. Draft like you, Insinuated, 1034 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 2: carroll you were. Right but it's up to the player 1035 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 2: to tell that team no before the, draft and it's 1036 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 2: up to the team where they want to listen to 1037 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 2: them or. 1038 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: Not gotta take a break, Here our number two begins 1039 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: with our good Friend Greg, cosel senior producer FROM nfl 1040 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: film is gonna go over some of the top receiver 1041 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: prospects in the. Draft if you're on the receiver, train 1042 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: this is the segment for. You next On One Bill's 1043 00:51:42,640 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: live presented By Collider, Health It's Buffalo Bills, radio The 1044 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: One Bills live presented By Callalida. 1045 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 2: Health second hour of the. 1046 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: Show here on A, Friday Chris, Brown Steve, Tasker One Bills, 1047 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 1: live and that can only mean one. Thing our good, 1048 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: friend senior producer FROM Nfl, Films Greg, cosal joins us 1049 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: as we go position by position Every friday with what's 1050 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: in this year's draft class and on the dock of 1051 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: this week a favorite for a lot of people that 1052 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: want to take a receiver every single year for The 1053 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: bills wide, Receiver, greg how are we Doing. 1054 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 4: Grownie what's happened In? Steve how are we? 1055 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 2: Doing doing? Good doing really? Good we got a little 1056 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 2: list of guys we want to run by it because 1057 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 2: we know you know more about them than we. Do 1058 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 2: and and. 1059 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 4: And it's always always, receivers that's the. Thing there's always. 1060 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 4: RECEIVERS i think more than thirty get drafted every. Year. 1061 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so but this year it's not like it was 1062 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: a year ago where they had three guys that everybody 1063 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 2: expected to step right on and be you, know contributors 1064 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 2: and starters and number one guys right. Away this group's 1065 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 2: a little. Different, UH i mean it seems. 1066 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 5: So. 1067 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 4: Now my guess is that some of these guys will 1068 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 4: turn out to be really good. Players you. KNOW i 1069 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 4: can't sit here and say they'll be the level Of 1070 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,239 Speaker 4: Elak neighbors or What harrison was thought of going into 1071 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 4: the draft last, year you, know and a doomsday was 1072 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 4: considered that as. Well so you don't know. That but 1073 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 4: receivers always end up playing. Well there's always a group 1074 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 4: of receivers that play. Well it's just a matter if 1075 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 4: you're if you're choosing one picking the right. One but 1076 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 4: the way the game is going now in a year 1077 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 4: young age with all the seven on sevens and all, 1078 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 4: that there's always going to be. 1079 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: Receivers, yeah so let's start with a pretty big, one 1080 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 1: and That's ted, McMillan who goes six four two nineteen 1081 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: and has ten inch. Hands but watching him play, greg 1082 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 1: he kind of looks like a long strider with build up. 1083 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: Speed, YEAH i. 1084 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,439 Speaker 4: THINK i, AGAIN i don't know where guys are going 1085 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 4: to get. Drafted the WAY i evaluated, HIM i THINK 1086 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 4: i evaluated him a little differently than. MOST i think 1087 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,919 Speaker 4: he's a little MORE i don't want to say, explosive 1088 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 4: that would not be the right, word BUT i think 1089 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 4: he's more than just a big possession or. Receiver you. 1090 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 4: Know the comparison that was made pretty quickly was With Drake, 1091 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 4: london AND i think that he's more Than Drake. London 1092 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 4: AND i think one of the things he does exceptionally 1093 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,479 Speaker 4: well he is seamless transitioning from receiver to run after, 1094 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 4: catch and he's very very good with the ball in his. 1095 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 4: Hands so, Again i'm not going to sit here and 1096 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,640 Speaker 4: say He's Justin jefferson or receiver of THAT Elk jefferson 1097 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 4: And chase would probably be considered the two best receivers 1098 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,879 Speaker 4: in football right. Now So i'm not going to sit 1099 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 4: here and say McMillan is in that, category BUT i 1100 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 4: guess What i'm saying IS i feel, like with the 1101 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 4: WAY i evaluate him on, tape that he'd be closer 1102 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 4: to that category than to let's, say just a big possession. 1103 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 2: Receiver, Right and that's you, know so he does look 1104 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 2: the PART i, Mean Les brownie said he's a big, 1105 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: dude and is you know one of the elite sized 1106 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 2: guys in the. Class is is that kind of what 1107 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 2: sets him apart is his ability to play at a 1108 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 2: big at that. Size, well he's very. 1109 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 4: Smooth you can almost see, it what the highlights we're looking, at, 1110 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 4: Right he's you, know he's not a. Guy you, know 1111 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 4: sometimes you see these guys that are six' four and 1112 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 4: you know THEY'RE more i don't want to say, they're 1113 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 4: PLOTTING but, i mean look at this. Kid run he's. 1114 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 4: Incredibly smooth. He's FLUID like, i said you wouldn't call 1115 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 4: him sudden. Or explosive but he's much more than just, 1116 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 4: you know a big guy who's going to catch the 1117 00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 4: ball in the middle of. The field and by, the 1118 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 4: way he does have ridiculously. Good HANDS but i think there's. 1119 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 4: More THERE what i Guess what i'm saying is it 1120 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 4: would not surprise me if he was he became a 1121 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 4: REALLY good. Nfl, receiver yeah you. 1122 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,720 Speaker 1: Compared him you said he's even Better Than, drake London 1123 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: and london went. Ninth overall so it'd be interesting to 1124 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: see where he comes off the board, this year in 1125 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: a year that's not considered to be as strong with 1126 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 1: blue chip talent over twenty seven hundred yards and eighteen 1127 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: touchdowns the last. Two seasons, all right what About the 1128 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: texas kid who's been moving up boards probably since, The 1129 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 1: Combine matthew golden after he ran the four. 1130 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: Two, nine. 1131 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 4: Yeah it's FUNNY because I think I think i did 1132 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 4: him before, the COMBINE so i didn't know what he. 1133 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 4: WOULD run, i mean he, plays fast, so again, you 1134 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 4: know you never know how guy's, Gonna, RUN right i 1135 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,720 Speaker 4: don't know how guy's. GONNA run i certainly didn't expect 1136 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 4: a four, two nine but he doesn't play quite at. 1137 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 4: That speed but he does, play fast and he's a 1138 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 4: guy you can line up anywhere on. Your formation he 1139 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 4: can run routes from, different splits. DIFFERENT looks i think 1140 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,800 Speaker 4: he's pretty refined as a. Route runner there's a sense 1141 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 4: of pace and tempo to. His, routes steve you Know 1142 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 4: what i'm. Talking about you, you know one of the 1143 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 4: things corners always say is that some guys that make 1144 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 4: every route look, the same, you know those guys are 1145 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 4: hard to. Play against he has a feel for just 1146 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 4: how to. Run routes he knows how to change speeds when. 1147 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 4: It's appropriate he understands the leverage of defensive backs to, 1148 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 4: create SEPARATION and, i think put aside the four, two 1149 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 4: nine he does have a vertical DIMENSION that i think 1150 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 4: can transition to the. Next level he's got, sudden acceleration 1151 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 4: he's got an. Extra gear, to me he was This Year's. 1152 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 4: Brian thomas not the same kind. OF receiver i don't 1153 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 4: want people to think he's the same kind of receiver because. 1154 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 4: He's not but in, this sense, LAST year I Thought 1155 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 4: brian thomas was an ascending PLAYER when i WATCHED his, 1156 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 4: lsu TAPE and i thought when he got TO, the 1157 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 4: nfl you'd. See that and that's exactly what Happened in jacksonville, 1158 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 4: this YEAR and I Think matthew golden is that guy. 1159 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 4: THIS year i think he's just going to keep. Getting 1160 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 4: BETTER and i think he'll be an ascending player once 1161 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 4: he gets to. 1162 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 7: The. 1163 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: League yeah there seems to be a clutch gene to 1164 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: his game also because he made an awful lot of 1165 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 1: big plays at critical moments, in games whether it was the, 1166 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: YOU know, I not i didn't WIN the sec, title 1167 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: game but he made some big plays for them to 1168 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 1: keep them in, that game and then in the football. 1169 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: PLAYOFF games i just thought he was making clutch plays 1170 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 1: for them at. 1171 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 4: Critical, moments yeah and he clearly got better as the. 1172 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 4: Season progressed the last six or seven Games of, texas 1173 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 4: season he was a. 1174 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 2: Dominant player give us a little insight Now Because matthew 1175 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 2: Golden and ted McMillan probably not going to be around. 1176 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 2: At thirty maybe they. WILL be i kind of. DOUBT 1177 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 2: it a guy that we haven't heard that much About 1178 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 2: Is luther Burden. From miszoo what can you tell us? 1179 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,439 Speaker 2: About him DON'T and i don't. 1180 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,479 Speaker 4: Understand THAT steve i did him last summer obviously caught 1181 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 4: more balls, last summer and people viewed him as a 1182 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 4: top ten pick coming into the twenty twenty. Fourth season 1183 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 4: their quarterback, situation there their pass game wasn't anywhere near 1184 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 4: as good, this year so therefore his. Numbers suffered but, 1185 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 4: this guy to me is he's got a ton. Of, 1186 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 4: trades now, this guy to me is, a, sudden explosive. 1187 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 4: DYNAMIC receiver i don't think he has the terrifying speed 1188 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 4: of let's Say A, jamison williams but there's no Question 1189 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 4: that burden can take the top off. The defense he 1190 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 4: can be a vertical to mention both from the slot. 1191 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 4: And outside he is really good run. After catch he's, 1192 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 4: got elusiveness he's. Competitively tough, you know he's six feet two. 1193 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 4: Oh six he's not a. LITTLE man i mean That's 1194 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 4: again i'm not making a, direct comparison but that's similar 1195 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 4: in Size To. JAMAR chase i think this guy has 1196 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 4: a chance to be a wide receiver one. WITH development 1197 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,439 Speaker 4: i mean he also ran a four to four, to one. 1198 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 4: YOU know i think that coming off his twenty twenty 1199 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 4: three season, last summer last, you know, last year at, 1200 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 4: this time even though he wasn't in, the draft people 1201 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 4: would have said that this guy was a big time 1202 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 4: potential number one wide receiver for. A team and his traits. 1203 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 4: Haven't changed see that's the thing that always. Gets me 1204 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 4: his traits. Haven't changed, you know there are all kinds 1205 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 4: of reasons why the numbers were not as good, this 1206 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 4: year but the traits. HAVEN'T changed, i mean you see 1207 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 4: the body control. Right here AND like, i said he 1208 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 4: is not a. Little man you know a lot of, people, 1209 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 4: think oh, slot only that he's six feet two. Oh 1210 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 4: six that's not. 1211 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Slot only so if you're looking at HIM as nfl 1212 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 2: teams would look, at him you're thinking some of the 1213 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 2: reasons for his drop in production would be what happened. 1214 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 4: Around, Him correct and, that's fair, You KNOW like, i said, 1215 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 4: you know he still had some plays this year where, 1216 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 4: you go oh, my god this guy can be a 1217 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 4: wide receiver one in the league. For sure so that's 1218 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 4: THE way i. See him and, YOU know i spoke 1219 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 4: to someone because someone else felt the SAME way, i 1220 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 4: did and they were in a position where they could 1221 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 4: check out, other Things which i'm not in a position. 1222 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 4: TO do i don't work for, a team and there's 1223 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 4: no negatives about him, personality wise. Character WISE so i, 1224 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 4: don't understand, JUST me i don't understand why he's not 1225 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 4: being talked, about MORE because i think he's worthy of. 1226 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 4: That conversation. 1227 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: All right we've heard a lot about, this player and 1228 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: he's he's going to be off the board. Relatively early 1229 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: but some people may line him up at cornerback depending 1230 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 1: on what their. Team needs other teams might line them up. 1231 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: At receivers so let's hear about the Receiver That travis. Hunter, Is. 1232 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 4: Yeah travis hunter's ARE really, i, mean obviously, you know 1233 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 4: we know he's a. Great athlete, you know he's in, 1234 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 4: college football he was always the best athlete on. The field, 1235 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 4: he's dynamic. He's twitchy he's got two traits that every 1236 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 4: offensive coach IN the nfl wants play speed with, vertical 1237 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 4: ability high level, ball tracking and he's super explosive run. 1238 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 4: AFTER catch, i mean this guy goes from zero to 1239 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 4: sixty in. A heartbeat and they threw a ton of. 1240 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 4: TUNNEL screens, I mean i Think Watching shader sanders and watching, 1241 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,200 Speaker 4: THEIR offense i saw a ton. Of screens and then 1242 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 4: somebody who from a team who, told me who does 1243 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 4: this kind of working CHARTS so i don't sit in 1244 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 4: chart every, single play said that they threw about one 1245 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty screens, this year which was probably One 1246 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 4: reason sanders completed seventy four percent of. His passes, but 1247 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 4: Anyway but hunter goes from zero to sixty just. IT'S ridiculous, 1248 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 4: i mean and he's got sure area, of burst he's got. 1249 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 4: Accelerating speed he can take any play to. The house 1250 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 4: he's just a. Great, athlete now will he be as 1251 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 4: great an athlete IN the nfl as he was. In, 1252 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 4: college no but he's still a. Great athlete and, you 1253 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 4: know he wasn't asked to run a lot, of detailed 1254 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 4: nuanced routes in college because it. Wasn't necessary, you, know 1255 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 4: again we've talked about. HIM before i think as. A 1256 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 4: corner i think we. DID that i, can't Remember but 1257 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 4: i'm curious to see how teams see HIM because i 1258 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 4: don't think you can play corner, part TIME but i 1259 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 4: think you can play receiver. PART time i, don't know 1260 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 4: you Guys, think steve you would have a better way to. 1261 01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 4: ANSWER that i think within the context of a defense 1262 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 4: and all the checks and coverages and all the things 1263 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 4: that go into being in, PLAYING defense i don't think 1264 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 4: you can play corner, part. 1265 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 2: Time right, and yeah that's. The thing if you send 1266 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 2: him to the defensive meetings and you give him like six, 1267 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 2: plays offensively and then the next week you give him 1268 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 2: a few more and a. Few more just give him 1269 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 2: a package of plays on offense that are choreographed more so, 1270 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 2: you're right you'rect you can't play corner, part, Time no. 1271 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,919 Speaker 4: And you can give him the term they use as. 1272 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 4: Manufacturer touches you want to get. The ball this guy 1273 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 4: the ball. In space he's just so. Incredibly explosive you 1274 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 4: just want to give him the ball. IN space, i 1275 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 4: mean look at the way he stopped. Right there that's 1276 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 4: a trait that's, always overlooked is how. Guys stop it's 1277 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 4: really important for receivers. And corners some guys take five steps. 1278 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 4: To stop even guys who run four to three can 1279 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 4: take five steps. To stop and if you can't stop 1280 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 4: the way we just saw him a few, plays ago 1281 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 4: then you know that that's a negative and he can 1282 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 4: just stop on. 1283 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 1: It, dying yeah let's move on To The Ohio state 1284 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Prospect To mecca buka six one two. Oh two this 1285 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 1: guy reminds me a little Bit Of, khalil SHAKIR greg 1286 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: I think shakiir is still more Elusive than, agbuka is 1287 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: but this guy screams. 1288 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 2: Slot receiver. 1289 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 4: Although with the way the game, Has, CHANGED brownie, i 1290 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 4: mean think of teams Like the rams with all the. 1291 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 4: Reduced splits so, YOU know i think think of a 1292 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 4: team Like the lions the way They Use Aman Ross. 1293 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 4: SAINT brown i was actually speaking to someone and we 1294 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 4: both agreed that if you put a Guy like agbuka 1295 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 4: in the same role As Aman Ross, saint brown he 1296 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 4: could probably do that and then he'd be a volume 1297 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 4: receiver lining up all over. The formation this kid is 1298 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 4: just he knows how to. Play receiver he understands, route 1299 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 4: running He understands, payson tempo he. Understands footwork he's got, 1300 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 4: great balance great, body control he knows how. To separate he's, 1301 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 4: not explosive, you, know vertically that's not. His game but, 1302 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 4: this guy, to ME and i made it a point 1303 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 4: to listen to him talk at the podium at, the 1304 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 4: combine he's just, So mature like this guy's. A PRO 1305 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 4: but i think depending on, an offense he could line. 1306 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 4: UP anywhere, i mean think. About it let's say an 1307 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 4: Offense like. Sean McVay think About. Pookuin akua, YOU know 1308 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 4: i Mean. Pookin theakua they don't line him up as 1309 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 4: A true let's SAY boundary x and say you win 1310 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 4: one on one against. Good corners they don't do that. 1311 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 4: With him but yet he does line, up outside it's just. 1312 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 4: There outside sometimes it's closer to, the formation so it 1313 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 4: almost seems like he's a. Slot RECEIVER and I think 1314 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 4: buka could be that. Same, guy, now again not a 1315 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 4: direct comparison to. The coup i'm thinking how he can 1316 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 4: be deployed within the context of. An offense but, to 1317 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 4: me this guy's going to be a ten year pro 1318 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 4: and just be a really. Good. 1319 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 2: Player yeah then we've got two guys on our list 1320 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,480 Speaker 2: that are from the Same School, Iowa State jalen Royals And. 1321 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 2: Jamie Hagens I'm sorr Higgins And. Jalen noel, i'm sorry, 1322 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 2: That's Right jayleen Noel And. Jayden higgins they both the. 1323 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 2: Same school give us a little rundown. On them AND 1324 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 2: how i was, YOU know i always stayed with two 1325 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 2: guys of, this quality. Not better. 1326 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 4: They were good. This year they were actually really good. 1327 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 4: This Year jayden higgins is one of my favorite receivers 1328 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 4: in this draft based. ON tape i did him last 1329 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 4: summer AND then i did him, this YEAR and i 1330 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 4: think that. HE'S again i never know where guys are 1331 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 4: drafted six' four and in eight two fourteen ran a 1332 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 4: four four seven, tremendous vertical jump really excellent. Athletic, testing 1333 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 4: measurables again, at six' four you don't think, of explosive 1334 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 4: and sudden but this guy. IS an, effortless mover i 1335 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 4: mean he's probably more of a speed cut route runner, 1336 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 4: than a you know sink your. Hips kind of guy 1337 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 4: but he knows how to separate at the top. Of 1338 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 4: the route. Stem he's very refined there's a kind of 1339 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,440 Speaker 4: a nuanced. Physicality to, Create separation you know i'm not, Going, 1340 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,360 Speaker 4: to sit Here Steve, and says michael irvin who was. 1341 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 4: A master at it but he's sort of got that 1342 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 4: little nuanced feel of how to do, that without you 1343 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,439 Speaker 4: know without it. Being offensive pass interference so he gives 1344 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 4: quarterback space. To deliver the football he runs. BETTER than 1345 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 4: you think i think this guy COULD be a boundary x. 1346 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,840 Speaker 4: Receiver in the league he was one, of my FAVORITE 1347 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 4: receivers and when i, WATCHED him last summer i. Knew 1348 01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 4: nothing about him he Was A, transfer FROM eastern kentucky 1349 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 4: so i knew. Absolutely NOTHING about him and i really 1350 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,240 Speaker 4: like this kid's. Take, for Two. 1351 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 1: Years okay because it's funny YOU say that because i 1352 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: Really Like his teammate jalen noel, a little. Bit, SMALLER 1353 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: runs faster yeah, I mean this kid i didn't know, 1354 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: him very, WELL either and boy i really liked HIM 1355 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot after. I, WATCHED his tape. 1356 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 4: Yeah i do too he's a. Totally different, guy obviously 1357 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 4: you know again you get caught up, in, people immediately 1358 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 4: saying well. He's, a slot receiver now he did have 1359 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 4: eighty two of his one hundred And Twenty targets at 1360 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,919 Speaker 4: iowa state this year did, come from the inside, which, makes. 1361 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,920 Speaker 4: You think okay slot but again gets back to the 1362 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 4: conversation We. Had about at buka but this guy's. Got 1363 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,439 Speaker 4: sudden lateral twitch he can work between. The numbers exceptionally 1364 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,840 Speaker 4: well but he's. Also got accelerating speed he ran a. 1365 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 4: Four to three nine it. Shows up on tape. He, 1366 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 4: Ran slot fades, again he's not little so you know he. 1367 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,600 Speaker 4: CAN line up outside i mean he's five ten and, 1368 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 4: a quarter not tall but. He's one ninety four that's. 1369 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 4: Not a little, MAN so you know i think this 1370 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,920 Speaker 4: guy can line up. Anywhere IN your formation and, I. 1371 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,640 Speaker 4: Agree with you brownie this this kid. Is, EXPLOSIVE and twitchy. 1372 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah i mean he had eight plays of. 1373 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: FIFTY yards or more i think That, was over the 1374 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 1: no it was just, last year or sorry over, the 1375 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: last two years he had eight plays of. FIFTY yards 1376 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: or more i mean that's a stretch the field Guy as. 1377 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 2: Far. 1378 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:47,719 Speaker 1: As, i'm concerned. 1379 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 4: Yeah well the thing other thing too is he's really. 1380 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 4: Good run. After CATCH he's explosive so i can't remember every, 1381 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 4: one Of those plays but i'm sure some of them 1382 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 4: were run after catch because this guy when, HE catches, 1383 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 4: the ball, i mean you Know He's, not quite travis 1384 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,800 Speaker 4: hunter but he goes from zero. To sixty pretty quick 1385 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 4: and give. 1386 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 2: Us, This One last GUY. Jack, Besh From tcu. 1387 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah jack besh was a fun guy to watch because 1388 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 4: this guy with the, BALL in, his hands i mean 1389 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 4: he takes that part of. The game extremely seriously he 1390 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 4: just does not. Want to be tackled so you're dealing 1391 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 4: with a guy. That is not explosive but when you, 1392 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 4: look at, the size, the hands, the physicality the competitiveness 1393 01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 4: the run after catch, profile, that he presents again you, 1394 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 4: know he could develop depending, on team and scheme. Into a, 1395 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 4: Volume receiver you Know i'll bring up, POOKIN a Coup 1396 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 4: again i mean pukin a coup is what a fourth. 1397 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,560 Speaker 4: OR fifth, round pick, i mean this guy, depending on 1398 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 4: the team could end up. BEING a, volume receiver i 1399 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,719 Speaker 4: mean you want to get the ball. IN this, guy's 1400 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 4: hands i mean this guy's Another guy that makes he 1401 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 4: makes content. Did catches through contact he makes seamless transitions 1402 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 4: into run after catch where the physicality and the competitive 1403 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 4: toughness just. JUMPS off, the film i mean this guy's a. 1404 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 4: Fun guy to watch there's a. Physical presence, about him 1405 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 4: you know sometimes you watch a player AND it's NOT an, 1406 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 4: x and o thing but you just go there's a physical. 1407 01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 4: Presence about this Guy That's the. Way. 1408 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:27,519 Speaker 1: JACK besh is yeah i didn't see. A, TIME on him. 1409 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 4: NO i didn't. Either i didn't either he had. 1410 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,639 Speaker 2: A thirty four inch vertic thirty four and a. Half 1411 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 2: inch vert ten he did a. Five inch broad jump 1412 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 2: he didn't. 1413 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Run at the combine he had a sub, seven second 1414 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: three cone which for a guy that tall was a. 1415 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 1: Little surprising to me he ran a six' eighty four 1416 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 1: in the three car. 1417 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,080 Speaker 4: And even the twenty yard shuttle was really good at. 1418 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,519 Speaker 4: Four point two. To one that's, pretty good so you 1419 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 4: know this guy's not just, like a, big stiff guy, 1420 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 4: YOU know but you know i he was. A fun, 1421 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,600 Speaker 4: guy to watch i. MEAN guys, like that play i. 1422 01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 4: Mean whatever, team they're on you know again, that's he, 1423 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,799 Speaker 4: depended on, on you know the volume the. Target volume 1424 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 4: and all that but this guy's going. To play in the. 1425 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 2: League does this guy seem like a guy who comes 1426 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 2: in makes a little bit of a splash in the 1427 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 2: preseason for a team because he'll be drafted a little 1428 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,679 Speaker 2: bit lower than these other, guys we've been talking, about 1429 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,679 Speaker 2: and then you know end up either on the practice 1430 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 2: squad bouncing back, and forth until he develops or do 1431 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 2: you think he's ready? TO go, from day one. 1432 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 4: I think, depending on how he's deployed he could be ready. 1433 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 4: To go, from day, one you know you know. 1434 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 2: He'll be on a roster he's Going, TO make A fifty, yeah, I. 1435 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 4: Think i think yeah i think he can. PLAY because, 1436 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,719 Speaker 4: HE'S so physical i mean i think he'll that part 1437 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,840 Speaker 4: of the, game won't be you know. A big change 1438 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 4: for him i think he's going to. Understand that pretty 1439 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 4: pretty well. AND the, GUY catches everything i mean i 1440 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 4: think he had. Ninety three targets this. Year he, had, 1441 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,639 Speaker 4: one drop, one DROP yeah all. RIGHT and i remember 1442 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 4: it i remember it was just, one of those. Flicky 1443 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 4: drops if you know sometimes, even guys with great hands. 1444 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 4: THEY just have a drop i. BET one of those 1445 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 4: things i. 1446 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Bet he remembers it, too. 1447 01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 4: AND you know what and i bet he's the kuy 1448 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 4: a guy that bothers him to this day because, it 1449 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 4: WAS a routine catch because i can. See, it, In, my, mind. 1450 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah well greg, listen thanks for you know shedding some 1451 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: light on. Some of these, receiver prospects we appreciate it 1452 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: and we'll catch. UP with you next week i believe 1453 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 1: running backs are on, the docket for next week so we'll. 1454 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Catch up, with you, then all. 1455 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 4: Right thanks guys appreciate. 1456 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 1: It it's always All right that's great co sell joining Us. 1457 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,880 Speaker 1: As he does every friday we're breaking. Down DRAFT prospects 1458 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,680 Speaker 1: by position And I, know HE loves jayon. HIGGINS who 1459 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,760 Speaker 1: i would Look I wouldn't mind having. Jayanon higgins on 1460 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 1: My roster But, something about jalen noel man the, guy 1461 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 1: just who you know how you LIKE see a guy? 1462 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 2: Like? I, like that, guy, Yeah yeah come on. 1463 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 1: Yeah i'm he ran a, Four TO thretey nine too. 1464 01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 1: So i got it there there's gonna be some really. 1465 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 2: Good Players in this draft the bills are gonna, have 1466 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 2: a SHOT at him, And, And i don't know uh 1467 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 2: i'm kind of. Like, McDermott in this way yeah show 1468 01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 2: me when when. You get, in OUR building and okay 1469 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 2: and i like these guys that we're, looking at because 1470 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 2: you know a couple of them and we still have 1471 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 2: to get. To, a bunch of others yeah a. Couple 1472 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 2: of them are big maybe, it's maybe it's you know 1473 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 2: my own little scar tissue from being a Smaller. Player and, 1474 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,600 Speaker 2: playing rather. Higgins size helps size helps it really is 1475 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,599 Speaker 2: an asset and. There's No getting Around it so i'm 1476 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 2: i'm i'm into These Guys That Are like keon i'm 1477 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm i'm Really good with keon. Over worthy even. Now, 1478 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 2: season so we'll see. 1479 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 1: Yeah as we heard, And we mentioned this, YESTERDAY sean 1480 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 1: McDermott said speed i like Speed And Small no good and. 1481 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: JALEN noel is not tiny i mean he's he's five 1482 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: ten and a half and he goes one ninety four 1483 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and he's got, A good frame on, him like he's. 1484 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: NOT wiry he's not. 1485 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 2: Spindily i said this yesterday the weight is? What does 1486 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,400 Speaker 2: it for you because the weight helps, you absorb contact and. Yeah. 1487 01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 2: So he's not small. 1488 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah and there's other guys that we didn't even get 1489 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,439 Speaker 1: to that are going to be in that second, to 1490 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,799 Speaker 1: third Round Rage range Whether It's, Jalen Royals from Utah 1491 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 1: State Trey Harris from old miss isaiah. Bond who we 1492 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 1: didn't mention there's. 1493 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 2: Guys there that. Are, that have some traits yeah they 1494 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 2: can run fast. And do all that stuff So, We'll see. 1495 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 1: Kid from stanford iya manor so there's there's a healthy 1496 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 1: number of players at the receiver, position all through this 1497 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,320 Speaker 1: draft so there'll be opportunities to. PICK somebody at some 1498 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:34,719 Speaker 1: point i think if it's not At the, latter stages, 1499 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,200 Speaker 1: of day two you know bottom of The second round where, 1500 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 1: THE bills picked sixty two i think it's, probably late 1501 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: in the draft then it's probably round five or six 1502 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: that's probably where if they. Even DECIDE to take one 1503 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,320 Speaker 1: and i know there are a lot of fans. That 1504 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 1: are hoping that happens but it's not like the cupboard 1505 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 1: is bare at The receiver position. For the bills right 1506 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Now If you picked up joshua palmer In Free, agency 1507 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: along with leviska channel who admittedly is going to be 1508 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 1: a ret turnman, first probably for. This team a receiver 1509 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Second But You still have curtis. Samuel, khalilshakers under an 1510 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,879 Speaker 1: EXTENSION yeah, you KNOW What I Mean even i kean gott. 1511 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 2: You've already got pro football players on your roster. That 1512 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,960 Speaker 2: can play the position you can go all the way 1513 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,360 Speaker 2: to like to pick one oh nine or one thirty 1514 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,719 Speaker 2: two and get a guy that's gonna compete and compete 1515 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 2: hard and push those guys to play. Well, to, beat 1516 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 2: Them out so yeah the bills have a bunch of 1517 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 2: draft picks and have enough draft picks at the right 1518 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,640 Speaker 2: level of this. Draft, to get, some guys question you 1519 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 2: Know where's that it's gonna we. All think it's gonna. 1520 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 2: End they're gonna pick? One? Where's IT gonna be yeah. 1521 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 1: And i think there's other, Sneaky offensive position needs too 1522 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 1: like you still don't have A Third tight end because 1523 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 1: quentin morris is still out there in free agency has, 1524 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: Not been re signed here so you may need a 1525 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: tight end that can do a lot of the dirty 1526 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: work around here, to add to your roster so. That 1527 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 1: could be a position we talked. About the guard spot 1528 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 1: yesterday for the, contractual reasons regarding the team you got. 1529 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 1: Everybody under contract this year next, Year is a different 1530 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: story so there are some sneaky offensive needs that are 1531 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 1: sprinkled in there with all The defensive needs. That the 1532 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,080 Speaker 1: bills have got, to take a break here but more 1533 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,320 Speaker 1: Of Your questions from the obel friday fan mail bag 1534 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: When We Return, here on One Bill's Live Presented By 1535 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: Kalida helpin's buffalo Bill's. 1536 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 2: Raiding Back, Here On, One Bill's. 1537 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Live chris Brown steve casky the obl friday fan mail 1538 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 1: bag is open as we're taking any and all of 1539 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 1: your questions that you Have, for Us, on the bills the, 1540 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 1: draft the, league, at, large free agency. Rules changes you 1541 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: name it let's go to the tweets sheet to see 1542 01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: what some. Of the questions are there And first Question, 1543 01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,559 Speaker 1: comes from let's go Buffalo What do you believe brandon 1544 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 1: bean's preference is at pick. Thirty corner or defensive tackle 1545 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: i'm just gonna tell. You he has NO preference the 1546 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,599 Speaker 1: way that gms approach. The draft, is as follows right now, 1547 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 1: leading up to next week he and his personnel department are, 1548 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: doing and executing mock drafts and they're doing it based 1549 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 1: on intel that they have gathered about all of the 1550 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 1: other teams and through the studying and research they've done 1551 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 1: of their respective rosters to accurately assess what those teams 1552 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 1: will be looking. For at their appointed picks and they. 1553 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Will run through round one different people in the personnel, 1554 01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 1: department will be different teams and they'll run through the draft, 1555 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 1: and see how it differs and they'll do It Several 1556 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 1: times so that brandon bean has a general idea of what. 1557 01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,759 Speaker 1: The board should look like as, pick thirty is closing 1558 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 1: in that is what going to steer him in the 1559 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: direction of position based on what value is left on. 1560 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 1: His board in round one so to say that to 1561 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,759 Speaker 1: indicate that he has a preference for a position. 1562 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:13,839 Speaker 2: Is a little bit. 1563 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 1: Misguided i'm not saying he wouldn't love to have a 1564 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 1: first round defensive tackle, or a first round corner knowing, 1565 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: the needs of this team but he's going to let 1566 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 1: the board steer him to a decision because you spent 1567 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 1: the last year putting that, board Together for that moment 1568 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: right there'll just go off the board and, say we 1569 01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: need a corner so we're gonna. 1570 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 2: Take what there's going to be players that are high 1571 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,080 Speaker 2: on The board, that would surprise Brownie me all of us, 1572 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 2: bills fans outside the room because we wouldn't put. Guys 1573 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 2: like that that, high when they call it they you'll hear. 1574 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 2: A bunch about draft room, they have the big board 1575 01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 2: and what that means is they whatever position. The player 1576 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 2: plays is irrelevant they will rank guys in order of 1577 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,600 Speaker 2: the best player available In this draft at any but 1578 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,560 Speaker 2: if you had to start this team from scratch and 1579 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,560 Speaker 2: needed to get, the best player you could this, is 1580 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 2: the guy you'd, take and the next one this is 1581 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,879 Speaker 2: the guy that's if your if your roster. Was totally 1582 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 2: slate was clean, that's how they do it so that 1583 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 2: when they get down to a place, where they've got 1584 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 2: a need don't have, a need that's that's, overriding they 1585 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 2: take a guy they take the guy that's. Hop tops 1586 01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 2: on their board that's why that's why teams are so 1587 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:38,880 Speaker 2: they're so cautious about anybody who sees their draft room 1588 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 2: because they'll see their big, board and they'll you know 1589 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,799 Speaker 2: teams will get an idea of what they're looking. 1590 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,240 Speaker 1: At and those are. Like government secret that's right it's 1591 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 1: like The. 1592 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 2: War room at the pentagon you just don't let anybody 1593 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 2: in there because. It's got secrets in it they don't 1594 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 2: want anybody to know what they think about players that's 1595 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,080 Speaker 2: not that. Are not on their. Team It's Just that 1596 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:04,880 Speaker 2: simple and, brandon bean said it. Before he'll say it 1597 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,000 Speaker 2: again you don't want any. Positional, emergencies at, draft time 1598 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,480 Speaker 2: well for us it may. Seem like it's an emergency 1599 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 2: he may know things about like the cornerback. Position that 1600 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,800 Speaker 2: we don't Know He may know that rasseul douglas, just 1601 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,559 Speaker 2: sitting for the. Call waiting for the call they may 1602 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 2: Know That they can get rasul douglas for a, number 1603 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 2: that they can afford or they may know that they 1604 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,800 Speaker 2: can get this other cornerback over here that they really. 1605 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:30,240 Speaker 2: Like at a different number they know, what's available on 1606 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 2: that market and at any point they just go out 1607 01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 2: and make a phone call and they got. The guy 1608 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,799 Speaker 2: in a contract That Kind of stuff is, brandon bean's. 1609 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,800 Speaker 2: Area of expertise not ours we're just talking about the 1610 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,000 Speaker 2: guys in, this draft that you're available And we look 1611 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,960 Speaker 2: at the bill's roster and because we don't see all 1612 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 2: those possibilities or Those Kind of givens that brandon bean can. 1613 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,920 Speaker 2: Make a phone call about we. Think it's a void. 1614 01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 2: Position it might not be that's the part of the 1615 01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 2: stuff that we have no idea. About in this draft 1616 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,680 Speaker 2: process that that's the way. It is for every Team. 1617 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 1: This one comes from nick who says the TAKEAWAY. From 1618 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 1: The twenty two Elm bedford draft was that bean made, 1619 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 1: a mistake in round one but he did well to 1620 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,599 Speaker 1: get insurance. At A position, of need assuming i'm right 1621 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 1: how would you guys approach buying insurance at corner and? 1622 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,640 Speaker 2: Defensive tackle in this draft. 1623 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,799 Speaker 1: More important to get whoever is available. With The highest 1624 01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 1: possible grades should bean seek to get players with complimentary 1625 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 1: skill sets or is it best to get two guys 1626 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,120 Speaker 1: with similar traits and abilities to optimize the chances that 1627 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 1: you get. Just, what you're looking for. 1628 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 2: Well traits, are. Different than skill sets. Right traits are, 1629 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,600 Speaker 2: physical attributes, he's this, fast this big this strong this 1630 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 2: athletic skill sets are, he's good with his, hands he's 1631 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 2: got you know he's his good, repertoire of pass rush. 1632 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 2: Moves this kind, of thing and you're right and think 1633 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,639 Speaker 2: about The insurance they got With John. McCargo by taking kyle. 1634 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 2: Williams it's a smart move you can't put all your. 1635 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,719 Speaker 2: Eggs INTO one draft pick. 1636 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 1: And i would say later in the draft there's more 1637 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 1: latitude to address, positional depth if, you will because the grades, 1638 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,919 Speaker 1: while they may be comparable maybe the separation between players 1639 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 1: is a little bit bigger. If you drift towards need, 1640 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,640 Speaker 1: usually in the early rounds the only thing that's a 1641 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,599 Speaker 1: tiebreaker if two players are grade at exactly, the same at. 1642 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,200 Speaker 1: Different positions is positional, need for your football. Team grades 1643 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,719 Speaker 1: are the same we need a, corner more, than we need, 1644 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 1: You know an offensive tackle so we're taking the corner 1645 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 1: here later in the draft if you want to get 1646 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 1: depth and get a backup to, your early pick at 1647 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 1: corner and you got a corner and his grade isn't 1648 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,559 Speaker 1: quite as high, as this guy at linebacker but. You 1649 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: want insurance at corner they're going to take the corner 1650 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: in the fifth round or the sixth round. If they 1651 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:59,160 Speaker 1: feel that's necessary so there's more latitude in the later rounds. 1652 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:03,519 Speaker 1: To get quotequte unquote, Insurance as, you're describing it jack 1653 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 1: asks what do you Guys THINK about the Two texas 1654 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,160 Speaker 1: dbs Free SAFETY. 1655 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 2: Andrew. 1656 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Mccooba cornerback john a barren some sites say they may 1657 01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,160 Speaker 1: be falling a tad could. Be available in round two 1658 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 1: mccouba would, be there late round two even round. Three 1659 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 1: if we get in he's the kind of coverage free. 1660 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 1: Safety we don't really have both. Have traits in all, caps. 1661 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 2: I'll take either. One, YEAH at any point. 1662 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah i will say this the knock on maccuba, Is 1663 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,080 Speaker 1: HE'S a little smallish and i think What the concern 1664 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:37,040 Speaker 1: is because i've seen his tape, and he's a productive 1665 01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 1: player put together a career season Last year After, transferring 1666 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,800 Speaker 1: from clemson to texas and, this guy is, a physical 1667 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:51,479 Speaker 1: hard hitting player, drives on the ball well can play 1668 01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,080 Speaker 1: in the box to support the run and, blow up 1669 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,639 Speaker 1: the screen game and he has the athleticism. To cover 1670 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 1: the deep path. HE runs four four five i thought 1671 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 1: he was one of the most physical. Safeties in the 1672 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:08,040 Speaker 1: draft class. That's why it's a concern he plays very 1673 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,800 Speaker 1: physical style and he's only one, Hundred and eighty six 1674 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 1: pounds so the concern is, if that's his playing style 1675 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,599 Speaker 1: how is he going to? Play seventeen games that. Way 1676 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,559 Speaker 1: at oneint. Eighty six that's the concern how much does that. 1677 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:22,960 Speaker 2: Move him. 1678 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 1: Down the board we'll see all you need is one, 1679 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,040 Speaker 1: team that really, likes him, and he's going you know right. 1680 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Where he's Supposed, TO go as for baron. I, DON'T think. 1681 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 2: He's slide yeah i think he's Gonna be a first round. 1682 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,840 Speaker 1: He could, Fall TO. 1683 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 2: Fifteen you know john a baron is a guy. THAT'S going, 1684 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 2: to go in I mean he led the. Sec IN. 1685 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 2: Interceptions last year the sec he's going to go at 1686 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,960 Speaker 2: least in the middle, third of the first. Round between 1687 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,520 Speaker 2: ten and twenty maybe maybe. 1688 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 1: Not to mention the fact that he played, slot in 1689 01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three played, outside in twenty twenty four and. 1690 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 1: He was good at both that guy's going to be off. 1691 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,280 Speaker 1: The board by, Pick twenty if. He's not i'll be stunned. 1692 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 2: If he's not, and he's, Available, at thirty take him 1693 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 2: yeah that would be. A whale of a. 1694 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Pick take, Him at thirty connor asks my questions. Revolve 1695 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 1: around The old line McGovern and edwards. Are free agent's 1696 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,400 Speaker 1: next offseason torrance is becoming a huge. Expense probably next 1697 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,080 Speaker 1: off season do you think McGovern gets extended During camp 1698 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,400 Speaker 1: and then let. Edwards Walk after next season. Keeping torrance 1699 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 1: is a must we had this a similar, discussion earlier 1700 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,800 Speaker 1: in the show and it is something, they do have, 1701 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 1: to address not this, year not right now necessarily but 1702 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: if you want, To, get ahead of it yeah an, 1703 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,599 Speaker 1: extension for McGovern's an option maybe. Attack on, TWO more 1704 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,200 Speaker 1: years you, ALSO i think have, to i really believe. 1705 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,280 Speaker 1: It to wait and see and the reason why, is, 1706 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 1: you want to see Well How far, along is, alec 1707 01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,400 Speaker 1: anderson coming, you know In year Three How is cedric 1708 01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,760 Speaker 1: van praan granger? Coming along in year two and if 1709 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 1: you believe those guys are, developing into starting caliber players 1710 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 1: you probably don't have to make. THE same kind of 1711 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 1: Investments i think they want. TORRENTS for the long term 1712 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,880 Speaker 1: i think that's, a LOCKSTOCK and barrel thing and i 1713 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,760 Speaker 1: think they like McGovern a lot and would like to 1714 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 1: keep him in. The fold beyond this season the left 1715 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,679 Speaker 1: guard is probably, the Position Where you're saying as alec 1716 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,519 Speaker 1: anderson come along enough to be a starter for, us 1717 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 1: in twenty, twenty six and if so Maybe You're. Not 1718 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,720 Speaker 1: re signing david edwards. 1719 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 2: You want to. 1720 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,040 Speaker 1: Sign, McGovern to an extension fine is. He the starting 1721 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,679 Speaker 1: left guard does he? Go Back out To guard because 1722 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,360 Speaker 1: van prank granger is coming on so, strong at the 1723 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,639 Speaker 1: center position he could be your. Starting center in twenty 1724 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,920 Speaker 1: six these are things, that HAVE to be determined and, 1725 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,599 Speaker 1: i Think because of that the bills might hold their 1726 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:43,680 Speaker 1: water on making these, decisions later rather than sooner so 1727 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,080 Speaker 1: they have more information to help make the future decisions, 1728 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,240 Speaker 1: to affect the line. 1729 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,760 Speaker 2: Right and they'll have plenty of opportunity to replace those 1730 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 2: guys with quality players. If indeed they do So if 1731 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,080 Speaker 2: McGovern just, Says i'm you know what i'm gonna play 1732 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,439 Speaker 2: this out and get hit, the free Agent market again They'll. 1733 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:03,040 Speaker 2: Have cedric van pran granger he can. Slide over and 1734 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,760 Speaker 2: he's in they've already. Got a replacement for him uh 1735 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,240 Speaker 2: and then all they got to do In that case 1736 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 2: is extend torrents. And. Find a left guard uh so 1737 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 2: that that and that would be. Kind of worst case 1738 01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 2: scenario so that's. They're they're okay right there certainly McGovern 1739 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,680 Speaker 2: is a guy they'd love to hang in there with 1740 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,400 Speaker 2: because he's been such, a GOOD player for them and 1741 01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:28,760 Speaker 2: i think he exceeded remember this time. At this time, last, 1742 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 2: year but it's like oh they Were. Wringing their hands 1743 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,320 Speaker 2: because ms morris wasn't, going to be the center And 1744 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,479 Speaker 2: they didn't know if connor McGovern was gonna, be able to. Do, it, 1745 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 2: and YadA YadA well yeah they. Knew what they were. 1746 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 1: Doing break time for us we'll try to get a 1747 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 1: final question in on the tweets you when We Return 1748 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:43,280 Speaker 1: Here on One bill's. LIVE stay With Us. 1749 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 2: Year i want bills live one final segment. 1750 01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:05,280 Speaker 1: To round out the week we're TAKING Your questions in the. 1751 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,400 Speaker 1: Obl friday fan mail bag this last one on The, 1752 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,479 Speaker 1: tweet sheet, comes from william who asks, if At the 1753 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 1: thirtieth pick the bills have the chance to either draft, 1754 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,800 Speaker 1: the top rated defensive tackle corner or Safety, With Such, 1755 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: players Like Grant max harston or, emon warre on the 1756 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,680 Speaker 1: board which player? Or position, would you draft All Right, 1757 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,920 Speaker 1: So You're, talking kenneth grant Max, harston The Corner from 1758 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 1: kentucky and Emon Warry. The safety from south carolina i'm 1759 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: going to tell you one hundred, Times out of one 1760 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,600 Speaker 1: hundred i'm taking the big guy if the value is 1761 01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:38,679 Speaker 1: if the value of the, players is, relatively, THE same 1762 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:42,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah i. Am taking the. Big, PLAYER every 1763 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,800 Speaker 1: single time. 1764 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah i would Say, they probably won't Take Hairston. They, 1765 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 2: May take emon worry yeah. 1766 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,639 Speaker 1: I'm Not saying that's. What the BILLS will do. That's, 1767 01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,439 Speaker 1: what i would do yeah that give me. The big 1768 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 1: guy every time the big dudes. Are Hard to come 1769 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 1: by kenneth grant's. BEEN mark, once again, today i saw 1770 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,320 Speaker 1: You know Our Guy field yates Send. 1771 01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 2: Kenneth grant to the. 1772 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 1: Bills do WE really think he's getting i don't think 1773 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:05,960 Speaker 1: he's all these people. 1774 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,559 Speaker 2: THINK he's getting a thirty i. Don't think he's getting Either. 1775 01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,679 Speaker 1: THE run, is against like i said that runs. Happening 1776 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,160 Speaker 1: in the early twenties we're gonna be. On the outside Looking, 1777 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,160 Speaker 1: in I'm Afraid unless brandon but. 1778 01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 2: Emon WORRY is more of a i think he's more 1779 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,640 Speaker 2: Of a, unique TALENT than harriston is and i. Think 1780 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 2: THEY'D take him first. BUT i think you're Right I 1781 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,200 Speaker 2: think they take. Kenneth, grant IF he's THERE yeah and 1782 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:27,719 Speaker 2: i would. 1783 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 1: I would, do the same i mean if that, Dude 1784 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:34,719 Speaker 1: is There. At thirty I'm Getting carl i'm hiring carl 1785 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,960 Speaker 1: lewis to work the draft wars and have him run. 1786 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 2: TO run up there fast i know the Young Kids don't. 1787 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,880 Speaker 2: Know who carl. Lewis is look him up that's it for. 1788 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,040 Speaker 1: Us here on the show we'll. Be, back next week 1789 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 1: more yeah we're already on graft