Speaker 1: What's that at bed? It's spooky and you I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. He's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, hey, I said, Hi, Ras Jess, Please,
Speaker 2: hey boo.
Speaker 1: It's me ros Jos Fales. Welcome to Ghosted. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of like minded friends, and of course,
Speaker 1: people all day every day tell me about different ghosty things,
Speaker 1: which I love. And my best friend and former podcast
Speaker 1: guest Sam Pancake asked me the other day if I
Speaker 1: was familiar with the black Eyed Children, and of course,
Speaker 1: like naturally, I'm like, yeah, what are you talking about, Fergie,
Speaker 1: and will I am? And he's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the black Eyed Children. And so he goes into this
Speaker 1: whole thing about this urban legend, and then I had
Speaker 1: to go look it up. So I went to ThoughtCatalog
Speaker 1: dot com, which had all this info about the black
Speaker 1: Eyed Children, and what it talks about is that the
Speaker 1: black Eyed children they are age six to sixteen typically
Speaker 1: from many reports, and they've got pale skin and completely
Speaker 1: blacked out eyes. And what they do is they knock
Speaker 1: on your door of your home, or it could be
Speaker 1: your car, or if you're like me in your early twenties,
Speaker 1: it's you know, the two things are one in the
Speaker 1: saying your car is your house. But people report that
Speaker 1: these black eyed children are making them feel incredibly uneasy
Speaker 1: when you know they approach them. And these children will
Speaker 1: do anything to get you to let them in, but
Speaker 1: you must give them permission first. And people report that
Speaker 1: they like kind of hypnotize you into letting them in,
Speaker 1: and people go into like this kind of trans it's
Speaker 1: like state, and it seems like a lot of people
Speaker 1: like break out of it right when the children are
Speaker 1: about to come in. And that's what's interesting is that
Speaker 1: there's not many stories of people like letting them in,
Speaker 1: and so people think that it could be because if
Speaker 1: they let you in, they kill you. Now they're always
Speaker 1: asking for something specifically, like they want to ride or
Speaker 1: if you're in your car obviously, or they want to
Speaker 1: use your phone or something like that, and they're seen
Speaker 1: in normal or slightly dated clothes, and they seem to
Speaker 1: be talking too mature to be actual children, which is
Speaker 1: why people are like, maybe they're shape shifters, maybe they're vampires, aliens, demons,
Speaker 1: who knows. But the earliest report came out in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six. A journalist named Brian Bethel in Abilene, Texas,
Speaker 1: was sitting in his car writing a check to pay
Speaker 1: a bill, and he's sitting in a parking lot near
Speaker 1: a theater and these two boys come up. They're approximately
Speaker 1: nine and twelve years old, and they knock on his
Speaker 1: window and they tell him that they were there to
Speaker 1: see Mortal Combat, which is like such a great nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six throwback, and they're about to finish. No, just kidding,
Speaker 1: but they had forgotten their money and they asked for
Speaker 1: a ride by. They asked Brian for a ride to
Speaker 1: take them back to their mother's house to get some money.
Speaker 1: And the boys are like really trying to convince him,
Speaker 1: and they're just like, oh, we're just little kids. We
Speaker 1: don't have any gangs or anything. And he's overcome with
Speaker 1: unease and he's like making all these excuses and he's
Speaker 1: like starting to fall for it for a moment, and
Speaker 1: he's like no, no, no, and he like notices their
Speaker 1: eyeballs and then he just stepped on it and he
Speaker 1: looked into the rear view mirror and they were gone.
Speaker 1: There was nobody in the rear view mirror. So that's
Speaker 1: the first time we ever heard about these black eyed children.
Speaker 1: But of course, the Internet being what it is, there
Speaker 1: are tons of reports on Reddit and blogs of all sorts.
Speaker 1: And I found this one that kind of spooked me
Speaker 1: that was also in the exact same Thought catalog article.
Speaker 1: This one is so interesting because it's called black eyed grandparents.
Speaker 1: So maybe black eyed children grow up and they become
Speaker 1: old black eyed people. Okay, it says a bit of
Speaker 1: scene setting. In nineteen ninety six ninety seven, Hey, same year,
Speaker 1: I lived in a fairly old terraced house with a
Speaker 1: cemetery at the end of the road. Cliche, I know,
Speaker 1: but it's an important detail. Nothing remarkable about the house
Speaker 1: or the area. It was just convenient for college. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I was up late one night on the PC in
Speaker 1: my bedroom, which looked out onto the street. It was
Speaker 1: about two or three am. For whatever reason, probably to
Speaker 1: give my eyes a rest, I wandered over to the
Speaker 1: window and looked down the road in the direction of
Speaker 1: the s cemetery, although it was too far down the
Speaker 1: street for me to see, and I saw three people
Speaker 1: walking slowly down the road. I could see that they
Speaker 1: were quite old and appeared to be dressed in funeral clothes, which,
Speaker 1: given the hour, was weird. There were two women and
Speaker 1: a man I'd put their ages about eighty, and the
Speaker 1: woman in the middle she was being steadied and guided
Speaker 1: by the other woman and the man. As they came closer,
Speaker 1: I got the impression that she was upset. The woman
Speaker 1: in the middle. My first thought was that given their age,
Speaker 1: she had recently buried her husband and grief had caused
Speaker 1: her to behave slightly irrationally, causing her to try to
Speaker 1: be out near the cemetery at at that hour, and
Speaker 1: that the other two were friends, relatives, trying to look
Speaker 1: after her and get her home. Anyway. It was all
Speaker 1: interesting enough for me to carry on watching as they
Speaker 1: got closer to the house. Just outside the front of
Speaker 1: the house was a street lamp. I watched them as
Speaker 1: they made their way past, but when they got to
Speaker 1: the lamppost, they all stopped, and the upset woman in
Speaker 1: the middle looked up at me and grinned. This was
Speaker 1: when things got weird. The grin became sort of a grimace,
Speaker 1: and if there was any color in her face to
Speaker 1: start with, it was now dead white. At that point
Speaker 1: I realized I was staring right into her eyes, but
Speaker 1: her eyes were pitch black. Times sort of dilated. If
Speaker 1: you've ever crashed the car, the final split second before
Speaker 1: you make impact seems to drag out as you process
Speaker 1: more information than normal in the timeframe. It was that
Speaker 1: sort of a thing. I'm sure we only made eye
Speaker 1: contact for a second, but it felt like several minutes
Speaker 1: as my peripheral vision faded and I felt like all
Speaker 1: I could see was these two black holes in her face,
Speaker 1: drawing me in. Although the distance between us didn't change,
Speaker 1: she somehow felt like she was coming closer, and I
Speaker 1: was kind of aware, although I couldn't honestly say I
Speaker 1: could see them at that point, that the two people
Speaker 1: with her were just continuing to look down the road,
Speaker 1: as if frozen but waiting for this woman to finish
Speaker 1: whatever she was doing. I was suddenly hit with this
Speaker 1: intense feeling of dread and panic, so I threw myself
Speaker 1: on the floor as soon as I'd broken her gaze.
Speaker 1: I felt pretty stupid that this upset old woman who
Speaker 1: clearly needed help, had spooked me so badly that I
Speaker 1: looked out the window again and there was no sign
Speaker 1: of her. It was a longish straight road and the
Speaker 1: house was toward the middle, so Lynford Christie who's a sprinter.
Speaker 1: I looked it up, would have had trouble getting out
Speaker 1: of sight in the time I looked away, let alone
Speaker 1: three octagenaris And that was uploaded by dj monkey Do
Speaker 1: on Reddit. So have you ever encountered the black Eyed Children?
Speaker 1: Let me know on the Facebook group. Ghosted by ros
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Speaker 2: The show.
Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen by Popular Demand, I have one of
Speaker 1: the Chatty brods.
Speaker 3: Jess Hello Popular Demand.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you don't understand, Okay.
Speaker 3: I was on your podcast Yes, and you were fantastic.
Speaker 1: Thank you. You and Becca do this podcast called Chatty
Speaker 1: Broad's and you had me on because you had some
Speaker 1: listeners of this show of ghost Yes tell you.
Speaker 3: We had some DM slides and they were like you
Speaker 3: need to get roz. And then I listened to your
Speaker 3: podcast and I'm like, oh my god, I need this
Speaker 3: human being on my podcast stat because we had a
Speaker 3: great paranormal episode. Everyone's response was so huge, like everyone
Speaker 3: loves getting spooky and you were just the perfect, the
Speaker 3: perfect guest, which.
Speaker 1: Is so funny because your podcast isn't like like you
Speaker 1: had a paranormal pod, like you had a paranormal episode,
Speaker 1: but you guys do like bachelor recaps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you like self improvement and whatever? But then
Speaker 3: back in I love paranormal, so we're like, we're just
Speaker 3: gonna throw this out there, and everyone loved it because
Speaker 3: everyone can relate.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, yeah, that's what I tend
Speaker 1: to believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and those who can't, I mean they're curious.
Speaker 1: I just feel like you can kind of if you're
Speaker 1: those people that believe in that stuff, you can sense
Speaker 1: that off of people. Like I have very few people
Speaker 1: that I connect with, like I don't have I have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends, but it's not usually our connection
Speaker 1: is not paranormal. It's like we work together, we're friends,
Speaker 1: like whatever, And then when I bring up ghost, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had this happen or that happened. Right, It's like
Speaker 1: a certain kind of open person, right, like you no shade.
Speaker 3: If you don't believe, which I don't feel like you'd
Speaker 3: be listening to this podcast if you don't. But I
Speaker 3: don't tend to vibe with people who have like no
Speaker 3: belief in the paranormal. You're not my people, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, But I do think that I
Speaker 1: do say to people sometimes like if you're a skeptic,
Speaker 1: you can listen to the show and it's still fun
Speaker 1: to talking about how crazy we are with those spooky demons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead and make fun of us. They what crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 1: We effect me. I wear wigs and duct tape my
Speaker 1: bulls to my thigh for a living. You could never
Speaker 1: show I don't have shame. Okay, Jazz, Yes, let's talk
Speaker 1: about your experience with the paranormal.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, So here's the thing. I was raised
Speaker 3: in a very conservative Christian home and some of my friends,
Speaker 3: when I talk to them about this, they're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god. We always talked about demons and angels, and
Speaker 3: I don't know. The people that I was raised with,
Speaker 3: they it was this type of conservative where you just
Speaker 3: didn't talk about it. Anything paranormal had to be demonic.
Speaker 3: There was no such thing as like a sweet precious
Speaker 3: Casper situation. It just didn't exist. But I was always Yes,
Speaker 3: Heaven and Hell was talked about, and demons, but like
Speaker 3: you just don't talk about it or else they may
Speaker 3: like latch onto you. It's almost like you don't want
Speaker 3: to mention it or else you have a chance of
Speaker 3: bumping into one got it, even though they would say
Speaker 3: that if you're a Christian, you know, you wouldn't ever
Speaker 3: have a demon interact with you. And when I was younger,
Speaker 3: I was kind of like, am I not a Christian
Speaker 3: because I sent some weird Can I swear on this?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, okay, you have your listener bracket is between the
Speaker 3: ages of eight and twelve. I understand we don't want
Speaker 3: to offend, but no, there was always weird shit floating
Speaker 3: around to me, like I just got a weird sense
Speaker 3: of things. Yeah, weird, you know, so I don't know
Speaker 3: get like being raised in that, I always was like
Speaker 3: so curious and I remember seeing like Oigi boards in
Speaker 3: UH stores and that was probably oh honey, it was
Speaker 3: a hard no, like don't even look at it, don't
Speaker 3: make eye contact with it, like you'll get something lashed
Speaker 3: onto you. But I'm like, I want to do seances,
Speaker 3: I want to do Wigi boards. But I still now
Speaker 3: have that thing, like I'm thirty years old and I
Speaker 3: still haven't done it because there's that level of like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, is my mom gonna like pop out
Speaker 3: and just be like stop it, Jessica, the demonic is
Speaker 3: going to attack you. But I need to, so maybe
Speaker 3: like we can do a seance together.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm all about a sance, but Wiji
Speaker 1: boards scare me.
Speaker 3: Oh be cause I mean you when you are on
Speaker 3: our podcast and you told the Wigi boards story. Now
Speaker 3: I'm a little I'm a little spook to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I think there's a way
Speaker 1: to do it. And you close the door and you
Speaker 1: do the ceremony and you'll rub your sage around and
Speaker 1: you do everything, which I never did, like as a
Speaker 1: kid or anytime since then. I've always just been like,
Speaker 1: dear ghosts, does my ass lik fat in these jeans?
Speaker 1: And then like the ghost wouldn't answer, and then I
Speaker 1: would full on to be possessed at four am.
Speaker 3: I I'm thinking maybe if I do it, I'll just
Speaker 3: like hit up an enemy of mine, someone who doesn't
Speaker 3: know that they're an enemy, and then just do it
Speaker 3: in their house in case any weird shit latches on.
Speaker 1: Then I'll be like all right, because I always feel
Speaker 1: like with Weiji boards, like the answers that you're looking
Speaker 1: for come not right right away. You know, It's like
Speaker 1: you know, you can't just call them up. Any demon
Speaker 1: like or spirit and they're just sitting around like, oh,
Speaker 1: phone calls coming in are just waiting for you. No,
Speaker 1: like you know some people you're trying to call. It
Speaker 1: takes a couple of times till they pick up, and
Speaker 1: then they finally are like, oh, I saw I see
Speaker 1: some miscalls. A couple hours ago, someone was asking me
Speaker 1: if my if they're ass lock fat in these jeans.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer this swoop down. Yeah, I'm gonna swoop down.
Speaker 1: Sorry I was late. Hey, wake up, your ass looks
Speaker 1: fat in those genes.
Speaker 3: Never but yeah, I know when I'm like, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to hit up, you know, my grandpa, and then all
Speaker 3: the sudden, like creepy Herbert who died, who like killed
Speaker 3: twelve people, was answering me, like I don't want any
Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, so I still have that a little
Speaker 3: bit lingering. But yeah, I don't know. I was always
Speaker 3: I always felt very drawn to the darkness. I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's like my scorpio moon that I just
Speaker 3: like to I don't know. I want I'm curious about.
Speaker 1: It, but specifically the dark sidedness of it.
Speaker 3: I'm curious about that.
Speaker 1: Yes, But how do you feel about just like happy ghosts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I love a happy ghost. I definitely had
Speaker 3: a situation where so I'm married and we had moved
Speaker 3: into a home together. I also have a child, and
Speaker 3: I was pregnant while we moved into this house, and
Speaker 3: I started to like have a weird sense about the house.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't anything that felt creepy to me. It
Speaker 3: just felt like there was someone there, and specifically in
Speaker 3: my daughter's room. And before I had her, sometimes i'd
Speaker 3: like wander into her room in the middle of the night,
Speaker 3: have like a full mom moment with my belly and
Speaker 3: be like this will one day be my and then
Speaker 3: I'd be like, there's something in here, Like should we
Speaker 3: move her bedroom? And so the first few months of
Speaker 3: her life we didn't have her in there. She was
Speaker 3: sleeping in the room with us, and then eventually we
Speaker 3: transitioned her over and she'd still wake up a couple
Speaker 3: times in the middle of the night, and every time
Speaker 3: she did, my husband and I would like switch off
Speaker 3: to go check on her. And every time I'd go
Speaker 3: in that room in the middle of the night, like
Speaker 3: there was someone in there. There was someone in there,
Speaker 3: and there was this empty, open closet and I would
Speaker 3: sometimes nurse her, and the chair was right across from
Speaker 3: this empty closet, and I would just stare into this
Speaker 3: dark closet and I'm like, someone is looking at me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like this.
Speaker 3: It was weird because my feelings, like my body wanted
Speaker 3: to be like get the hell out of here, like
Speaker 3: this is so creepy. But it didn't feel threatening to
Speaker 3: me at all. And I was just more a little
Speaker 3: like freaked out by the fact that it was in
Speaker 3: my daughter's room that I was like, please, sweet ghost,
Speaker 3: be nice, don't do anything weird to my kid. But
Speaker 3: then actually we moved and one day, like over someone,
Speaker 3: I made some comment to my husband like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: know there was something about that house. And he's mister
Speaker 3: like skeptic, you know, he doesn't believe anything, and he
Speaker 3: ride away was like, oh my god, I felt the
Speaker 3: same exact thing, and we're like, okay, say it at
Speaker 3: the same time where it was, and we both were
Speaker 3: like Ember's closet, same exact time. So we said there
Speaker 3: was something.
Speaker 1: In there, a closet ghost, a closet ghost, but a.
Speaker 3: Nice closet ghost. No, maybe it was like a lovely
Speaker 3: grandmother or an auntie or something. It didn't feel childlike.
Speaker 3: It definitely felt I don't know, it felt like an adult.
Speaker 3: It felt old.
Speaker 1: I have I had a similar experience one time with
Speaker 1: a friendly closet ghost. I think I might have told
Speaker 1: this on this show before. I can't remember, but this
Speaker 1: one time, I was staying at a friend's house so
Speaker 1: we grew up together, and she had told me before, like,
Speaker 1: there's this ghost in the house, this woman whatever is
Speaker 1: this old, beautiful farmhouse and totally forgot about it. And
Speaker 1: one night, when I was like college age, I was
Speaker 1: back home and we were partying and whatever, and then
Speaker 1: I passed out in the bedroom. Did I tell this
Speaker 1: on your podcast? I feel like I told this someplace, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think maybe. Okay, So I passed out in this
Speaker 1: bedroom upstairs, and I remember the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: the closet door opened and I like woke up and
Speaker 1: I could feel somebody staring at me through the closet
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm drunk, and like went
Speaker 1: to bed, and then I woke up the next day
Speaker 1: and at breakfast, I was like, oh, you're your friend
Speaker 1: Sarah the ghost. I think she visited me last night
Speaker 1: and she was like, how did you know her name
Speaker 1: was Sarah. Yes, And I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: isn't that what you called her? And then she was like, no,
Speaker 1: we recently just like we just did some research and
Speaker 1: we found out that the woman that died in this
Speaker 1: house name was Sarah. We did it like a week ago,
Speaker 1: Like how did you know that?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Okay, So with the whole Sarah thing,
Speaker 3: did you just throw that out there? Was it just
Speaker 3: like were you just joking? You know?
Speaker 2: Sarah?
Speaker 1: That's really did she like open this closet and she's like.
Speaker 3: She just cozied up next to you and tried to
Speaker 3: spoon And You're like, honey, it's not that way. You
Speaker 3: cut that way, Sarah, Sarah your pants, Sarah contain yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I like you know that, but I wasn't scared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not scared. Okay, So yeah there. I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's not that I'm only about the scary demons. Like,
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I'm just very curious about them.
Speaker 1: Have you encountered anything that is like demonic?
Speaker 3: So I've had a few situations where I've had like
Speaker 3: sleep paralysis, but it didn't feel like sleep paralysis. And
Speaker 3: I know that people talk about it and go, you know,
Speaker 3: the scientific research says it's sleep paralysis. And I was like, no, bitch,
Speaker 3: I was definitely awake, Like I was awake.
Speaker 1: Could you move?
Speaker 3: I could move until they held me down. Okay, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, can it's creepy long claws now? Yes? Yes?
Speaker 3: So okay. So I was visiting my mother and I've
Speaker 3: never felt anything strange in her house before, but I
Speaker 3: was like crashing on the couch to go visit her,
Speaker 3: and I was just laying I wasn't asleep yet, I
Speaker 3: hadn't fallen asleep, and I was like checking my phone.
Speaker 1: Like I was.
Speaker 3: I was very much awake, flipping through my phone, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I look up at the ceiling
Speaker 3: and there's this strange shadow, like this black shadow that's
Speaker 3: covering the ceiling. But the way that that, like the
Speaker 3: angle of the light and whatever, I'm like, that just
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. How am I seeing this shadow? Like
Speaker 3: it's already dark in the room, the only thing is
Speaker 3: the light on is my phone. I don't understand. And
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, I felt like breath on
Speaker 3: the back of my neck. God scarcely just to remember
Speaker 3: it and then I felt and I could move at
Speaker 3: this point, and then all of a sudden, I felt
Speaker 3: these long like fingers grab the tops of my shoulder.
Speaker 3: So just behind me, yes, and I'm laying down. I
Speaker 3: feel the hands like in my back.
Speaker 1: With claws with like it felt like sharp, like an
Speaker 1: acrylic yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, like like a like a sturdy stillid like a
Speaker 3: coffin shape, you know, yeah, that makes sense, and just
Speaker 3: like digging into me and I at that point then
Speaker 3: as soon as I felt the hands on me, then
Speaker 3: I couldn't move and I felt like I couldn't speak,
Speaker 3: and it was And the thing that's so weird about
Speaker 3: it is that like I felt it talking, but I
Speaker 3: don't recall what it was saying. Like in the moment,
Speaker 3: I understood, like I could process what was going on,
Speaker 3: but all I felt was like drastic fear. Oh.
Speaker 1: And then but you were on your stomach and it
Speaker 1: was behind me.
Speaker 3: I was on my back, laying down and it was
Speaker 3: behind me and it grabbed me. And at that point
Speaker 3: I was still looking up at the ceiling and I
Speaker 3: could still see that weird shadow maybe like black fog,
Speaker 3: And in that that one was the most like terror
Speaker 3: that I've personally felt because it felt so ominous, like
Speaker 3: it was evil. Yeah, And I couldn't move, I couldn't speak,
Speaker 3: and you know, I was just like kind of waiting
Speaker 3: and doing like like counting almost to myself, like just
Speaker 3: waiting for it to go. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: when I count, when I get to twenty, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be gone. So I'm counting to twenty, like please plase,
Speaker 3: I'm still not gone at twenty, and I keep going
Speaker 3: and then I get to maybe about sixty seconds, so
Speaker 3: it was about a minute, and then it released and
Speaker 3: I literally ran into my mom's bedroom like I was
Speaker 3: four years old, sobbing, and I was like moh oah,
Speaker 3: my god. And She's just like, Jessica, you are dreaming.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, first of all, I am twenty seven
Speaker 3: years old. I am coherent right now. I was awake.
Speaker 3: I was not dreaming. Don't talk to me like that.
Speaker 3: But then it was so strange. Is the next day
Speaker 3: I got a email from someone and a person back
Speaker 3: in the day when I was like involved in the church,
Speaker 3: I had gone on a missions trip to India and
Speaker 3: someone that we had I had recently connected with again
Speaker 3: via email.
Speaker 1: Was murdered over there in India.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that night, that night, and so there was
Speaker 3: this weird like it felt connected to me because I
Speaker 3: had been in contact with that person like the week
Speaker 3: before and I hadn't spoken to them in years. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and so something felt I don't know, it just felt
Speaker 3: connected to me in a strange way and I couldn't
Speaker 3: explain it. And it wasn't even the timing. There was
Speaker 3: this weird thing in the back of my head that
Speaker 3: it was like maybe I don't know, this just feels
Speaker 3: this feels far away, but it feels dark and I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Ugh, it was horrible interesting, Yes, it was horror. Say
Speaker 1: so you said you could hear it talking.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I can't. I can't remember, I can't decipher.
Speaker 1: It's like, you should have Roz Jezvelas on your podcast.
Speaker 1: Is that who told you to have me on your podcast? Yes?
Speaker 3: It was the coffin nailed stiletto bitch goes who was
Speaker 3: whispering and holding me down.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 1: You got me. But your mom hasn't had any other
Speaker 1: problems in that house.
Speaker 3: My mom says she hasn't, but I also don't necessarily
Speaker 3: believe her.
Speaker 1: Is she's still a part of she's still very.
Speaker 3: Religious, so I feel like she's maybe just not allowing
Speaker 3: it to be connected in any way interesting, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but we've had oh man, I've had
Speaker 3: some some other like friends and family who've gone through
Speaker 3: some like crazy crazy shit like what so okay, So
Speaker 3: a really good friend of our families is a pastor,
Speaker 3: and oh god, this is so creepy. So in general,
Speaker 3: like I said that, like the church community that we
Speaker 3: were involved in, like just didn't we didn't do demons.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about it. We don't do them. They
Speaker 3: are not on our top three. But he got a
Speaker 3: call one day from someone who went to the church,
Speaker 3: and I happened to know the family who contacted him.
Speaker 3: They are not people who are dramatic. They're not like me.
Speaker 3: We're like something like falls over in my house and
Speaker 3: I'm like, call ex or sust the house is probably
Speaker 3: on fire emotion, I don't know what's going on. But
Speaker 3: they're so not that way. And they contacted him and
Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, so we know you're a pastor, so
Speaker 3: maybe you can help us out. But something strange is
Speaker 3: going on in this house that we moved to and
Speaker 3: they had been there for about six months. It was
Speaker 3: a husband and wife and they had three little kids.
Speaker 3: And I don't know what they knew about the house
Speaker 3: before moving in, but within one month of them being here,
Speaker 3: like stuff started to get really crazy. At first, it
Speaker 3: was the kids. The kids would who were only like
Speaker 3: super mellow. They'd go to bed, they'd have their thing,
Speaker 3: you know. I think they were between the ages of
Speaker 3: like eight and two, so there was like a drastic age.
Speaker 3: But the older one was like low key whatever, started
Speaker 3: to have these crazy night terrors, but like would claim
Speaker 3: that it wasn't a nighttair, would claim that it was real,
Speaker 3: and they were trying to like console her all the time.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, the middle daughter started
Speaker 3: to have the same issues, and they're going, oh, they're
Speaker 3: rubbing off on each other. But it was the same story,
Speaker 3: and it was about this little girl who was coming
Speaker 3: in like to the room and threatening them and they'd
Speaker 3: like she'd they would say that she was hurting them.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so just violent.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Well, cut to a few weeks later and the husband
Speaker 3: and wife are sleeping in bed and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: they start hearing like violent vomiting uh in their bathroom
Speaker 3: and they're like, oh my god, one of the kids
Speaker 3: got in, like what's wrong. One of the kids is sick.
Speaker 3: They ducked out, go into the bathroom. Nothing's in there.
Speaker 3: And they swear that the vomiting was still happening while
Speaker 3: they were in the bathroom and it was loudest in
Speaker 3: the bathroom. Wow. And so it just starts escalating and
Speaker 3: getting worse. They're having kids screaming in the middle of
Speaker 3: the night. The vomiting won't stop, like every night.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: And then at one point, like they get home one
Speaker 3: day and there's nail marks, like fingernails all down the
Speaker 3: hall uh uh yes, and they were like you know again,
Speaker 3: people critics could say skeptics might say it's the kids,
Speaker 3: but these kids were like horrified. Well, and they were little.
Speaker 1: I was actually just thinking about that because what movie
Speaker 1: was I saying. I was seeing scary stories tell in
Speaker 1: the dark, and there is a scene where somebody drags
Speaker 1: their fingernails and I was thinking, like, Okay, first of all,
Speaker 1: you have to have strong ass fingernails.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, seriously, I.
Speaker 1: Get to damage your fingernails.
Speaker 3: Like like you know, you're not paying for a set
Speaker 3: going and doing that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, So I I have a hard time believe.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it can be possible, but
Speaker 1: I mean it depends what the walls may not of
Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But like if you looked at your kid's fingers,
Speaker 1: you would probably be able to tell.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you would need like clause to do. Apparently
Speaker 3: what happened because so then the family friend of ours
Speaker 3: who's the pastor, said that he went over because he
Speaker 3: was kind of like, Okay, I'm not an exorcist, Like
Speaker 3: I don't really know what to do in this situation,
Speaker 3: but the family at this point feels very threatened. The
Speaker 3: kids are horrified, and everything seems to just be getting
Speaker 3: worse and worse. And again the feeling was like violent,
Speaker 3: you know. And he said he saw the claw marks.
Speaker 3: They were deep and real, and he's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this kid, it's a kid's not going to do that now.
Speaker 3: And when you talk to the kids, like these kids
Speaker 3: weren't old enough or you know, conniving enough to do
Speaker 3: something like that, and he was like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what to tell you, Like I really don't. I guess
Speaker 3: all someone to sage the place, like I have no
Speaker 3: idea to get an ex I have no idea, and
Speaker 3: they eventually moved out because I guess it just started
Speaker 3: to just get out of hand. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's typically a Catholic thing, like,
Speaker 1: you know, an exorcist. I don't know if pastors. I
Speaker 1: don't think that they do.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. The house, yeah, I think that,
Speaker 3: like they just called him because they were like, we
Speaker 3: don't know what else to do, Like who are we
Speaker 3: supposed to call?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah there now, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think about that all the time all the time.
Speaker 3: And also who lived there before some puky nail girl.
Speaker 3: Oh god. I get scared when moving in somewhere new always,
Speaker 3: of course, I always get scared, I know, and like
Speaker 3: reveal yourself immediately because I need to know whether I
Speaker 3: can unpack and settle down because I hate moving. I
Speaker 3: don't want to pack up. I don't want to be
Speaker 3: haunted by some vomity woman or whatever.
Speaker 1: I know, and like, I'm not putting the wallpaper if
Speaker 1: you're going to be scratching it.
Speaker 3: That is expensive and it is a pain in the
Speaker 3: ass to put up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, but that's the thing. Like,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm drawn to it, maybe because it just
Speaker 3: wasn't allowed when I grew up and I was always
Speaker 3: so curious. Same thing. It's like, you know, I watch
Speaker 3: all the serial killer documentaries, like I'm so intrigued and
Speaker 3: not like in an Oh my god, I love this,
Speaker 3: but you have to know. I want to know.
Speaker 1: I think knowledge is power and situations like that, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you can learn from experiences or you know, I
Speaker 1: think I think it. I think it has made me.
Speaker 1: It's a fine line between paranoid and just prepared when
Speaker 1: it comes to like watching true crime and ghost things
Speaker 1: because I'm like that that could be a sign of
Speaker 1: an exorcism, or that person looked at me weird. That
Speaker 1: means that they might murder me.
Speaker 3: Like oh, I always have my my keys in between
Speaker 3: my nails. I'm always ready to go. Now you know,
Speaker 3: I'm prepared. I'm prepared. But as doing this podcast like
Speaker 3: made you so scared all the time.
Speaker 1: Now it's it fluctuates because I was at first so
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by so many ghost stories that and and always
Speaker 1: stuff at nighttime. It's always stuff that that affects you
Speaker 1: when you're sleeping, like, oh, a ghost was hovering over
Speaker 1: me when I'm sleeping. That A lot of that happens
Speaker 1: around these parts. I hear lots of stories like that,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the time I read the messages
Speaker 1: that people send me after I've done a gig and
Speaker 1: I come home and I'm like unwinding and like always
Speaker 1: like why.
Speaker 3: Yes, And then it's a ghost story about like something
Speaker 3: horrifying involving water.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what always happens. I have the weirdest
Speaker 1: thing ever where I drive home after like a busy
Speaker 1: day and I don't want to get out of my car,
Speaker 1: so I'll just like sit there with like maybe the
Speaker 1: ac go and maybe some jams, and I'm like, let
Speaker 1: me just like check like emails and whatever, and then
Speaker 1: I'll start I'm like, ooh, this one looks good. And
Speaker 1: then I'm reading and then I'm in my car with
Speaker 1: like windows all around me, and I'm like, I can't
Speaker 1: get out of this car. I'm crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god, I don't know how
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to be a little bit well, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm starting to become a little bit more brave.
Speaker 1: But then I had a paranormal experience a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard this one, but I
Speaker 1: fled a hotel at two am because there was a
Speaker 1: ghost in there and I got scared.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I saw it on your Insta stories.
Speaker 3: But I have okay, I need to listen to listen
Speaker 3: to it. It's oh my god, it's so creepy. You know. See,
Speaker 3: I need I need someone like you to go and
Speaker 3: stay in the hotels because all of my friends are like,
Speaker 3: hell no, none of them will do it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's something you want to do, is
Speaker 1: go stay in a haunted place.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure? Really, yeah, I'm very curious. Now, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I'll be able to like actually do it.
Speaker 3: Like I'd get there and I'd unpack, and then I'd
Speaker 3: be like, this is going to be a pass for me,
Speaker 3: and I'd leave. Maybe.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I did. Here's what I'm down for
Speaker 1: is going to a hotel, a haunted hotel, and staying
Speaker 1: up all night with a group of people.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, sure, sure, yeah, I don't expect to sleep. No.
Speaker 1: And that was the problem was that the friend I
Speaker 1: was with was like, Oh, we're going to bed and
Speaker 1: we're going to wake up in the morning and after
Speaker 1: learning and reading all day that there's a ghost in
Speaker 1: here that messes with you when you're sleeping.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, your friend was able to just fall asleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's never had an experience. Whatever. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't never, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I did forget to tell Oh, I
Speaker 3: forgot to tell this.
Speaker 1: Tell me.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I totally I can't believe I forgot
Speaker 3: about this. Now I'm thinking demons. I did see an exorcism.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Where was it an India?
Speaker 3: It was an India.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the story here.
Speaker 3: So I was over in India years ago, and it
Speaker 3: was with my old school and we were there for
Speaker 3: like service projects, and a lot of them were associated
Speaker 3: with like the Christian church community. So one of the
Speaker 3: people who would take us around was this local pastor
Speaker 3: and one day he let us go into the slums.
Speaker 3: And you have these people who, you know, have these
Speaker 3: illnesses that are just absolutely terrible, like things that would
Speaker 3: be one curable if they had the means to go
Speaker 3: to and get medical care. But basically the pastor would
Speaker 3: go out to these slums and like pray for these people.
Speaker 3: So there'd be these long lines waiting for him when
Speaker 3: he'd show up, and I was already very uncomfortable with
Speaker 3: the whole situation, like this just seems very strange and
Speaker 3: general to me, and I feel weird about this, But
Speaker 3: I was supposed to be there with him, So me
Speaker 3: and three of the other students were there, and they're.
Speaker 1: Just curious, would he charge people for this? No?
Speaker 3: No, no no, But it was definitely like this whole
Speaker 3: like white savior business that have opinions about. But this
Speaker 3: is a fun podcast. So but there's this long line.
Speaker 3: Everyone's just waiting to get prayed over, and it's just
Speaker 3: a lot of people who are sick or you know,
Speaker 3: have a family member who's ill. Finally they bring up
Speaker 3: this woman and like four people are holding her and
Speaker 3: it's like a rabid situation, right, So she's violently like
Speaker 3: screaming and moving and her eyes are just like elsewhere
Speaker 3: and there's like foaming at the mouth happening. Yes, And
Speaker 3: I am in my baby college self, just like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, what did I get into? I hate this,
Speaker 3: Like I'm so scared. And of course, as soon as
Speaker 3: they bring her up, he looked the pastor looks back
Speaker 3: at us and goes, she's possessed. I have to perform
Speaker 3: an exorcism. And I'm like, honey, this is not what
Speaker 3: the college like registration said. I thought I was just
Speaker 3: going in a superce project. I did not realize that
Speaker 3: I was going to be participating in this. And he's
Speaker 3: like the person and now this sucks. So he just
Speaker 3: like points at me. First of all, Okay, he starts
Speaker 3: talking to her, praying. I don't understand because he's speaking Hindi,
Speaker 3: and I am shook to the core, and she continues
Speaker 3: to like move violently, and then finally she stops moving
Speaker 3: after he's prayed a certain amount, and then he turns
Speaker 3: around and he points at me just like that finger,
Speaker 3: and he goes, you, I need you to hold onto her,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, God, no, please, it's gonna pass over
Speaker 3: to me, and so I have to go. They've now
Speaker 3: like managed to put her on her knees facing him,
Speaker 3: and I have to hold like stand above her and
Speaker 3: hold her shoulders. Oh my gosh. And so he keeps
Speaker 3: doing this prayer and then like touches her head and
Speaker 3: she just like bends back like almost like there was
Speaker 3: no bones in her body, Like I don't know how
Speaker 3: to explain it except for that like on her knees
Speaker 3: and just collapses backwards and I'm just oh my god,
Speaker 3: oh my god. He's like, okay, keep holding onto her whatever.
Speaker 3: And she had this like twitchy thing happen, and it
Speaker 3: almost seemed like a seizure, and then she was quiet
Speaker 3: for about a mins it and then sat up and.
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, guys, this is just like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: you would have.
Speaker 3: A mimosa available because that was rough. No, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just like you think you've had a bad day, please,
Speaker 3: but yeah. And I didn't even know, like I was
Speaker 3: messed up for like a week after seeing it. I
Speaker 3: bet I didn't even know how to handle it. And
Speaker 3: then part of me, you know, is looking at it scientifically,
Speaker 3: going like is this woman schizophrenic and is unable to
Speaker 3: get medication? Like is there's this Are these just seizures?
Speaker 3: Like I don't understand which.
Speaker 1: Could be true exactly, or how do you explain Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, how was she acting once.
Speaker 3: Completely I mean completely normal in the sense that there
Speaker 3: was nothing like violent was happening. She just seemed kind
Speaker 3: of quiet and shaken up and kind of just walked
Speaker 3: away with her family. Wow. Yeah, And then I was
Speaker 3: just asking him, was like excuse me, and I was
Speaker 3: just again shy college. I'm like, excuse me, can you
Speaker 3: explain to me what just happened? And he made some
Speaker 3: kind of overarching comment about like the things of Satan
Speaker 3: shouldn't be spoken about, and I'm like, but you just
Speaker 3: made me hold her, so can you give me?
Speaker 1: Can give me a little bit.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to give me a little bit of
Speaker 3: the demon tee because I'm very confused. Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 1: But have you ever seen those videos where it's like someone,
Speaker 1: you know, they put the pastor puts the hand on
Speaker 1: the person and they start shaking and fall in. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think I believe that. But this was
Speaker 3: This wasn't like that televised. There was no money. He's
Speaker 3: not getting paid. I don't know. It felt different. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's because I was there, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, usually those those videos, it's I mean, if anyone
Speaker 1: can know bad acting, it's me and I can sense
Speaker 1: it from a mile away. And you're kind of like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, really like you're gonna like they look behind
Speaker 1: them before they fall back and it is this gonna
Speaker 1: kill me. But this woman like she's foaming at the mouth,
Speaker 1: she's you know, bending, like she has no bones, and like.
Speaker 3: We're in the slums of India, like no one's trying
Speaker 3: to like throw the drama on for anyone. They have
Speaker 3: enough going on. Like it felt very real. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: so then I was just even more interested. Maybe that's
Speaker 3: when you.
Speaker 1: Were an exorcist assistant.
Speaker 3: I didn't know either.
Speaker 1: Resume.
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to I think I'm going to
Speaker 3: make that my Instagram bio now.
Speaker 1: Along with fashion styles, former fashion Styles, Former fashion Style, which,
Speaker 1: speaking of what do you think of this outfit I'm wearing?
Speaker 3: I have to say this to the listeners. The amount
Speaker 3: of peacock feathers happening is appalling.
Speaker 1: Like I love it, but it's a little vegan peacock feathers.
Speaker 3: Well we're grateful for that, but like you know, we're
Speaker 3: a few feet away and the peacock feathers are like
Speaker 3: in my eyes practically, so my goodness, you turn it
Speaker 3: up for this. I mean, this is a podcast. I
Speaker 3: normally just kind of dress in my sweats, not me,
Speaker 3: I know, my goodness, full face and everything.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices.
Speaker 3: I'm afraid, but I would love to sure find.
Speaker 1: Okay, it is now timed for it EVP or ev
Speaker 1: paseh gosh, Okay, suggest Here's what I do. I go
Speaker 1: to YouTube. I type in EVPs, real, EVPs, whatever I
Speaker 1: can find. For hours, I search until I find what
Speaker 1: someone someone's recording of a ghost voice. I want you
Speaker 1: to guess what this ghost voice says. Okay. This was
Speaker 1: uploaded by somebody named Mystic Ghost. It is at the
Speaker 1: Baker Hotel in Mineral Wells, Texas. Tell me what you
Speaker 1: think this ghost is saying. Okay, it's real quick, but
Speaker 1: if you really like focus in, what is it?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm really freaked out at what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3: I'm here like, push her head, push her head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you some options. Okay, is it A
Speaker 1: I'm a spooky bitch. B How do I look? See
Speaker 1: House up the Dead? Or D I'll kick your ass.
Speaker 3: Oh it's for sure. It is for sure House of
Speaker 3: the Dead the Dead.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so spooky.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1: I don't either. Okay, here's another one. Okay, this one's
Speaker 1: not quite as spooky and it's a quick one. This
Speaker 1: is from half Paranormal, and I believe he recorded this
Speaker 1: in his house. It's real staticky in.
Speaker 3: Hearing, Like, first of all, it's a very beautiful sexy voice.
Speaker 3: I know you know I'm coming. Okay, yeah you can stay.
Speaker 3: I know. Hey girl, I'm hearing like I love something
Speaker 3: or it's.
Speaker 1: Not me, it's not me, or you love something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I love is she saying I love me?
Speaker 3: I love me? She's a dvat. She's very she understands herself,
Speaker 3: she knows her self worth total. She's a woman who
Speaker 3: loves herself. I know.
Speaker 1: She's totally like, you are trying to capture me, and
Speaker 1: I love me. I don't blame you.
Speaker 3: You you are trying to save me out of your house.
Speaker 3: But honey, you can't because I love me, I love
Speaker 3: to my self. Value is skyrocketing through this house.
Speaker 1: So please, She's like, sage cannot contain all of this fabulousity, bitch. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: is it a he loves you? D good luck? C
Speaker 1: kill her? Or D how my nails look?
Speaker 3: Is it he loves you? He loves you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that kind of changes the backstory. So she
Speaker 1: goes from saying I love me too, he loves you.
Speaker 1: I wonder what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah I hear that. Now for sure
Speaker 3: I heard the love.
Speaker 1: There's definitely a clear love.
Speaker 3: It's a love. And again she's so fab like I'm
Speaker 3: not surprised.
Speaker 1: She's like, he loves you.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. Stop crying of your friends, Like
Speaker 3: you know, you get a little bit of that self worth.
Speaker 3: He loves you. You're good.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think that's it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I had so much fun with you.
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with you. And we have to get back.
Speaker 3: Yes, we have to get Becca because Becca has a
Speaker 3: had She has some crazy stories. I know she definitely
Speaker 3: like has what you have where like there's that communication
Speaker 3: with the the maybe the maybe dead, maybe the undead,
Speaker 3: I don't know. And so she's got some crazy stories.
Speaker 3: I wanted to tell some of hers, but I'm resisting
Speaker 3: today because I'll leave that to her.
Speaker 1: We should have her in here, well, tell us where
Speaker 1: we can find you and your podcast and everything.
Speaker 3: So the podcast is Chatty Broad's with Becka and Jess.
Speaker 3: We're on all the platforms, iTunes, Spotify, all that.
Speaker 1: It's a real popular podcast.
Speaker 3: You know, we have amazing the broad Squad are We
Speaker 3: love our fans.
Speaker 1: There's like a now a broad Squad ghost boot.
Speaker 3: Oh, they adore you. We get lots of d ms
Speaker 3: about you, lots of d ms.
Speaker 1: I want to go back for Halloween. Oh will you
Speaker 1: please please?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm going to drag you by your wig, Carol.
Speaker 1: You know that's not hard to do. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'll I'll wear these peacock feathers and all the shebang
Speaker 1: next time.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect any less.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with Jess. And go listen
Speaker 1: to Chatty Brad's of course, you know, start off with
Speaker 1: the episode that I am on, because we had a
Speaker 1: blast and we all told ghost stories. And hopefully I'll
Speaker 1: be back there soon. Thank you so much for listening
Speaker 1: to the show. Guys, I'm working on doing a live
Speaker 1: show in Los Angeles, so get excited for that. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm on Cameo now, and I love Cameo. It's so
Speaker 1: much fun because you can, you know, have me send
Speaker 1: you some kind of fun message, or you can have
Speaker 1: me send a message for a friend or whatever. So
Speaker 1: you go to cameo dot com slash Roz Dress Valise.
Speaker 1: I'm also on Facebook Roz Dress Vals, Instagram at Roz
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Speaker 1: Roz Dress Fales where you can post your funny ghost
Speaker 1: y memes, you can say nice things about me, you
Speaker 1: can share your ghost story and of course I love
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Speaker 1: giving the show five stars, and you can write a
Speaker 1: review with a ghost story. And if you don't have
Speaker 1: a ghost story.
Speaker 3: Just leave five stars. Why not?
Speaker 2: What does it cost to you?
Speaker 1: It doesn't cost you nothing, but it's great for the show.
Speaker 1: We are back next week with an incredible story. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait to share it with you. So thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
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