1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: What's that at bed? It's spooky and you I'm pretty 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: sure it's dead. He's coming this way. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, hey, I said, Hi, Ras Jess, Please, 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: hey boo. 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: It's me ros Jos Fales. Welcome to Ghosted. You know, 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: I have a lot of like minded friends, and of course, 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: people all day every day tell me about different ghosty things, 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: which I love. And my best friend and former podcast 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: guest Sam Pancake asked me the other day if I 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: was familiar with the black Eyed Children, and of course, 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: like naturally, I'm like, yeah, what are you talking about, Fergie, 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: and will I am? And he's like, no, no, no, 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: the black Eyed Children. And so he goes into this 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: whole thing about this urban legend, and then I had 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: to go look it up. So I went to ThoughtCatalog 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: dot com, which had all this info about the black 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: Eyed Children, and what it talks about is that the 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: black Eyed children they are age six to sixteen typically 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: from many reports, and they've got pale skin and completely 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: blacked out eyes. And what they do is they knock 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: on your door of your home, or it could be 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: your car, or if you're like me in your early twenties, 23 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: it's you know, the two things are one in the 24 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: saying your car is your house. But people report that 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: these black eyed children are making them feel incredibly uneasy 26 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: when you know they approach them. And these children will 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: do anything to get you to let them in, but 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: you must give them permission first. And people report that 29 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: they like kind of hypnotize you into letting them in, 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: and people go into like this kind of trans it's 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: like state, and it seems like a lot of people 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: like break out of it right when the children are 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: about to come in. And that's what's interesting is that 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: there's not many stories of people like letting them in, 35 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: and so people think that it could be because if 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: they let you in, they kill you. Now they're always 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: asking for something specifically, like they want to ride or 38 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: if you're in your car obviously, or they want to 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: use your phone or something like that, and they're seen 40 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: in normal or slightly dated clothes, and they seem to 41 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: be talking too mature to be actual children, which is 42 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: why people are like, maybe they're shape shifters, maybe they're vampires, aliens, demons, 43 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: who knows. But the earliest report came out in nineteen 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: ninety six. A journalist named Brian Bethel in Abilene, Texas, 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: was sitting in his car writing a check to pay 46 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: a bill, and he's sitting in a parking lot near 47 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: a theater and these two boys come up. They're approximately 48 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: nine and twelve years old, and they knock on his 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: window and they tell him that they were there to 50 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: see Mortal Combat, which is like such a great nineteen 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: ninety six throwback, and they're about to finish. No, just kidding, 52 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: but they had forgotten their money and they asked for 53 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: a ride by. They asked Brian for a ride to 54 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: take them back to their mother's house to get some money. 55 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: And the boys are like really trying to convince him, 56 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: and they're just like, oh, we're just little kids. We 57 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: don't have any gangs or anything. And he's overcome with 58 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: unease and he's like making all these excuses and he's 59 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: like starting to fall for it for a moment, and 60 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: he's like no, no, no, and he like notices their 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: eyeballs and then he just stepped on it and he 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: looked into the rear view mirror and they were gone. 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: There was nobody in the rear view mirror. So that's 64 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: the first time we ever heard about these black eyed children. 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: But of course, the Internet being what it is, there 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: are tons of reports on Reddit and blogs of all sorts. 67 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: And I found this one that kind of spooked me 68 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: that was also in the exact same Thought catalog article. 69 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: This one is so interesting because it's called black eyed grandparents. 70 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: So maybe black eyed children grow up and they become 71 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: old black eyed people. Okay, it says a bit of 72 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: scene setting. In nineteen ninety six ninety seven, Hey, same year, 73 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: I lived in a fairly old terraced house with a 74 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: cemetery at the end of the road. Cliche, I know, 75 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: but it's an important detail. Nothing remarkable about the house 76 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: or the area. It was just convenient for college. Anyway. 77 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: I was up late one night on the PC in 78 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: my bedroom, which looked out onto the street. It was 79 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: about two or three am. For whatever reason, probably to 80 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: give my eyes a rest, I wandered over to the 81 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: window and looked down the road in the direction of 82 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: the s cemetery, although it was too far down the 83 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: street for me to see, and I saw three people 84 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: walking slowly down the road. I could see that they 85 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: were quite old and appeared to be dressed in funeral clothes, which, 86 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: given the hour, was weird. There were two women and 87 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: a man I'd put their ages about eighty, and the 88 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: woman in the middle she was being steadied and guided 89 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: by the other woman and the man. As they came closer, 90 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: I got the impression that she was upset. The woman 91 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: in the middle. My first thought was that given their age, 92 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: she had recently buried her husband and grief had caused 93 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: her to behave slightly irrationally, causing her to try to 94 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: be out near the cemetery at at that hour, and 95 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: that the other two were friends, relatives, trying to look 96 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: after her and get her home. Anyway. It was all 97 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: interesting enough for me to carry on watching as they 98 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: got closer to the house. Just outside the front of 99 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: the house was a street lamp. I watched them as 100 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: they made their way past, but when they got to 101 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: the lamppost, they all stopped, and the upset woman in 102 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: the middle looked up at me and grinned. This was 103 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: when things got weird. The grin became sort of a grimace, 104 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: and if there was any color in her face to 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: start with, it was now dead white. At that point 106 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I realized I was staring right into her eyes, but 107 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: her eyes were pitch black. Times sort of dilated. If 108 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: you've ever crashed the car, the final split second before 109 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: you make impact seems to drag out as you process 110 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: more information than normal in the timeframe. It was that 111 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: sort of a thing. I'm sure we only made eye 112 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: contact for a second, but it felt like several minutes 113 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: as my peripheral vision faded and I felt like all 114 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: I could see was these two black holes in her face, 115 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: drawing me in. Although the distance between us didn't change, 116 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: she somehow felt like she was coming closer, and I 117 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: was kind of aware, although I couldn't honestly say I 118 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: could see them at that point, that the two people 119 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: with her were just continuing to look down the road, 120 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: as if frozen but waiting for this woman to finish 121 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: whatever she was doing. I was suddenly hit with this 122 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: intense feeling of dread and panic, so I threw myself 123 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: on the floor as soon as I'd broken her gaze. 124 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: I felt pretty stupid that this upset old woman who 125 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: clearly needed help, had spooked me so badly that I 126 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: looked out the window again and there was no sign 127 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: of her. It was a longish straight road and the 128 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: house was toward the middle, so Lynford Christie who's a sprinter. 129 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: I looked it up, would have had trouble getting out 130 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: of sight in the time I looked away, let alone 131 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: three octagenaris And that was uploaded by dj monkey Do 132 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: on Reddit. So have you ever encountered the black Eyed Children? 133 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Let me know on the Facebook group. Ghosted by ros 134 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: Dress Falas On with. 135 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: The show. 136 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen by Popular Demand, I have one of 137 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: the Chatty brods. 138 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: Jess Hello Popular Demand. 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Oh yes, you don't understand, Okay. 140 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: I was on your podcast Yes, and you were fantastic. 141 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. You and Becca do this podcast called Chatty 142 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: Broad's and you had me on because you had some 143 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: listeners of this show of ghost Yes tell you. 144 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: We had some DM slides and they were like you 145 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: need to get roz. And then I listened to your 146 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: podcast and I'm like, oh my god, I need this 147 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: human being on my podcast stat because we had a 148 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: great paranormal episode. Everyone's response was so huge, like everyone 149 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: loves getting spooky and you were just the perfect, the 150 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: perfect guest, which. 151 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: Is so funny because your podcast isn't like like you 152 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: had a paranormal pod, like you had a paranormal episode, 153 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: but you guys do like bachelor recaps. 154 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, would you like self improvement and whatever? But then 155 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: back in I love paranormal, so we're like, we're just 156 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: gonna throw this out there, and everyone loved it because 157 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: everyone can relate. 158 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, yeah, that's what I tend 159 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: to believe. 160 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and those who can't, I mean they're curious. 161 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: I just feel like you can kind of if you're 162 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: those people that believe in that stuff, you can sense 163 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: that off of people. Like I have very few people 164 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: that I connect with, like I don't have I have 165 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot of friends, but it's not usually our connection 166 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: is not paranormal. It's like we work together, we're friends, 167 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: like whatever, And then when I bring up ghost, they're like, yeah, 168 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: I've had this happen or that happened. Right, It's like 169 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: a certain kind of open person, right, like you no shade. 170 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: If you don't believe, which I don't feel like you'd 171 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: be listening to this podcast if you don't. But I 172 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: don't tend to vibe with people who have like no 173 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: belief in the paranormal. You're not my people, I know. 174 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, But I do think that I 175 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: do say to people sometimes like if you're a skeptic, 176 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: you can listen to the show and it's still fun 177 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: to talking about how crazy we are with those spooky demons. 178 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead and make fun of us. They what crazy. 179 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: I don't care. 180 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: We effect me. I wear wigs and duct tape my 181 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: bulls to my thigh for a living. You could never 182 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: show I don't have shame. Okay, Jazz, Yes, let's talk 183 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: about your experience with the paranormal. 184 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, So here's the thing. I was raised 185 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: in a very conservative Christian home and some of my friends, 186 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: when I talk to them about this, they're like, oh 187 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: my god. We always talked about demons and angels, and 188 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. The people that I was raised with, 189 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: they it was this type of conservative where you just 190 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: didn't talk about it. Anything paranormal had to be demonic. 191 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: There was no such thing as like a sweet precious 192 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 3: Casper situation. It just didn't exist. But I was always Yes, 193 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 3: Heaven and Hell was talked about, and demons, but like 194 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: you just don't talk about it or else they may 195 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: like latch onto you. It's almost like you don't want 196 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: to mention it or else you have a chance of 197 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: bumping into one got it, even though they would say 198 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: that if you're a Christian, you know, you wouldn't ever 199 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 3: have a demon interact with you. And when I was younger, 200 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: I was kind of like, am I not a Christian 201 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: because I sent some weird Can I swear on this? 202 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: No? 203 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: No, okay, you have your listener bracket is between the 204 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: ages of eight and twelve. I understand we don't want 205 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: to offend, but no, there was always weird shit floating 206 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: around to me, like I just got a weird sense 207 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: of things. Yeah, weird, you know, so I don't know 208 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: get like being raised in that, I always was like 209 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 3: so curious and I remember seeing like Oigi boards in 210 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: UH stores and that was probably oh honey, it was 211 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: a hard no, like don't even look at it, don't 212 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: make eye contact with it, like you'll get something lashed 213 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: onto you. But I'm like, I want to do seances, 214 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: I want to do Wigi boards. But I still now 215 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: have that thing, like I'm thirty years old and I 216 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: still haven't done it because there's that level of like, 217 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: oh my god, is my mom gonna like pop out 218 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 3: and just be like stop it, Jessica, the demonic is 219 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: going to attack you. But I need to, so maybe 220 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: like we can do a seance together. 221 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm all about a sance, but Wiji 222 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: boards scare me. 223 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh be cause I mean you when you are on 224 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 3: our podcast and you told the Wigi boards story. Now 225 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: I'm a little I'm a little spook to do it. 226 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just I think there's a way 227 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: to do it. And you close the door and you 228 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: do the ceremony and you'll rub your sage around and 229 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: you do everything, which I never did, like as a 230 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: kid or anytime since then. I've always just been like, 231 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: dear ghosts, does my ass lik fat in these jeans? 232 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: And then like the ghost wouldn't answer, and then I 233 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: would full on to be possessed at four am. 234 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: I I'm thinking maybe if I do it, I'll just 235 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: like hit up an enemy of mine, someone who doesn't 236 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 3: know that they're an enemy, and then just do it 237 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: in their house in case any weird shit latches on. 238 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Then I'll be like all right, because I always feel 239 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: like with Weiji boards, like the answers that you're looking 240 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: for come not right right away. You know, It's like 241 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, you can't just call them up. Any demon 242 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: like or spirit and they're just sitting around like, oh, 243 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: phone calls coming in are just waiting for you. No, 244 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: like you know some people you're trying to call. It 245 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: takes a couple of times till they pick up, and 246 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: then they finally are like, oh, I saw I see 247 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: some miscalls. A couple hours ago, someone was asking me 248 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: if my if they're ass lock fat in these jeans. 249 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer this swoop down. Yeah, I'm gonna swoop down. 250 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: Sorry I was late. Hey, wake up, your ass looks 251 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: fat in those genes. 252 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: Never but yeah, I know when I'm like, I'm trying 253 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: to hit up, you know, my grandpa, and then all 254 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: the sudden, like creepy Herbert who died, who like killed 255 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: twelve people, was answering me, like I don't want any 256 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: of that. Yeah, so I still have that a little 257 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: bit lingering. But yeah, I don't know. I was always 258 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: I always felt very drawn to the darkness. I don't 259 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: know if it's like my scorpio moon that I just 260 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: like to I don't know. I want I'm curious about. 261 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: It, but specifically the dark sidedness of it. 262 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm curious about that. 263 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Yes, But how do you feel about just like happy ghosts. 264 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I love a happy ghost. I definitely had 265 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: a situation where so I'm married and we had moved 266 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: into a home together. I also have a child, and 267 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: I was pregnant while we moved into this house, and 268 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: I started to like have a weird sense about the house. 269 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: But it wasn't anything that felt creepy to me. It 270 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: just felt like there was someone there, and specifically in 271 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: my daughter's room. And before I had her, sometimes i'd 272 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: like wander into her room in the middle of the night, 273 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: have like a full mom moment with my belly and 274 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: be like this will one day be my and then 275 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: I'd be like, there's something in here, Like should we 276 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: move her bedroom? And so the first few months of 277 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: her life we didn't have her in there. She was 278 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: sleeping in the room with us, and then eventually we 279 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: transitioned her over and she'd still wake up a couple 280 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: times in the middle of the night, and every time 281 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: she did, my husband and I would like switch off 282 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: to go check on her. And every time I'd go 283 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: in that room in the middle of the night, like 284 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: there was someone in there. There was someone in there, 285 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: and there was this empty, open closet and I would 286 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: sometimes nurse her, and the chair was right across from 287 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: this empty closet, and I would just stare into this 288 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: dark closet and I'm like, someone is looking at me. 289 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was like this. 290 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: It was weird because my feelings, like my body wanted 291 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: to be like get the hell out of here, like 292 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: this is so creepy. But it didn't feel threatening to 293 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: me at all. And I was just more a little 294 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: like freaked out by the fact that it was in 295 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: my daughter's room that I was like, please, sweet ghost, 296 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: be nice, don't do anything weird to my kid. But 297 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: then actually we moved and one day, like over someone, 298 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: I made some comment to my husband like, yeah, you 299 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: know there was something about that house. And he's mister 300 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: like skeptic, you know, he doesn't believe anything, and he 301 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: ride away was like, oh my god, I felt the 302 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: same exact thing, and we're like, okay, say it at 303 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: the same time where it was, and we both were 304 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: like Ember's closet, same exact time. So we said there 305 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: was something. 306 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: In there, a closet ghost, a closet ghost, but a. 307 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: Nice closet ghost. No, maybe it was like a lovely 308 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: grandmother or an auntie or something. It didn't feel childlike. 309 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: It definitely felt I don't know, it felt like an adult. 310 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: It felt old. 311 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I have I had a similar experience one time with 312 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: a friendly closet ghost. I think I might have told 313 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: this on this show before. I can't remember, but this 314 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: one time, I was staying at a friend's house so 315 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: we grew up together, and she had told me before, like, 316 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: there's this ghost in the house, this woman whatever is 317 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: this old, beautiful farmhouse and totally forgot about it. And 318 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: one night, when I was like college age, I was 319 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: back home and we were partying and whatever, and then 320 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: I passed out in the bedroom. Did I tell this 321 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: on your podcast? I feel like I told this someplace, Yes, 322 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: I think maybe. Okay, So I passed out in this 323 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: bedroom upstairs, and I remember the middle of the night, 324 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: the closet door opened and I like woke up and 325 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: I could feel somebody staring at me through the closet 326 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm drunk, and like went 327 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: to bed, and then I woke up the next day 328 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: and at breakfast, I was like, oh, you're your friend 329 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: Sarah the ghost. I think she visited me last night 330 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: and she was like, how did you know her name 331 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: was Sarah. Yes, And I was like, I don't know, 332 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: isn't that what you called her? And then she was like, no, 333 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: we recently just like we just did some research and 334 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: we found out that the woman that died in this 335 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: house name was Sarah. We did it like a week ago, 336 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: Like how did you know that? 337 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: Oh my god? Okay, So with the whole Sarah thing, 338 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: did you just throw that out there? Was it just 339 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: like were you just joking? You know? 340 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: Sarah? 341 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: That's really did she like open this closet and she's like. 342 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: She just cozied up next to you and tried to 343 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: spoon And You're like, honey, it's not that way. You 344 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: cut that way, Sarah, Sarah your pants, Sarah contain yourself. 345 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I like you know that, but I wasn't scared. 346 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not scared. Okay, So yeah there. I don't know, 347 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: it's not that I'm only about the scary demons. Like, 348 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I'm just very curious about them. 349 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: Have you encountered anything that is like demonic? 350 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: So I've had a few situations where I've had like 351 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: sleep paralysis, but it didn't feel like sleep paralysis. And 352 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: I know that people talk about it and go, you know, 353 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 3: the scientific research says it's sleep paralysis. And I was like, no, bitch, 354 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: I was definitely awake, Like I was awake. 355 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: Could you move? 356 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: I could move until they held me down. Okay, wait 357 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: a minute, can it's creepy long claws now? Yes? Yes? 358 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: So okay. So I was visiting my mother and I've 359 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: never felt anything strange in her house before, but I 360 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 3: was like crashing on the couch to go visit her, 361 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: and I was just laying I wasn't asleep yet, I 362 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 3: hadn't fallen asleep, and I was like checking my phone. 363 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: Like I was. 364 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: I was very much awake, flipping through my phone, and 365 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I look up at the ceiling 366 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 3: and there's this strange shadow, like this black shadow that's 367 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: covering the ceiling. But the way that that, like the 368 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: angle of the light and whatever, I'm like, that just 369 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. How am I seeing this shadow? Like 370 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: it's already dark in the room, the only thing is 371 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: the light on is my phone. I don't understand. And 372 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, I felt like breath on 373 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: the back of my neck. God scarcely just to remember 374 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: it and then I felt and I could move at 375 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: this point, and then all of a sudden, I felt 376 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: these long like fingers grab the tops of my shoulder. 377 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: So just behind me, yes, and I'm laying down. I 378 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: feel the hands like in my back. 379 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: With claws with like it felt like sharp, like an 380 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: acrylic yes. 381 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: Yes, like like a like a sturdy stillid like a 382 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 3: coffin shape, you know, yeah, that makes sense, and just 383 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: like digging into me and I at that point then 384 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: as soon as I felt the hands on me, then 385 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: I couldn't move and I felt like I couldn't speak, 386 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: and it was And the thing that's so weird about 387 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: it is that like I felt it talking, but I 388 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: don't recall what it was saying. Like in the moment, 389 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: I understood, like I could process what was going on, 390 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: but all I felt was like drastic fear. Oh. 391 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: And then but you were on your stomach and it 392 00:20:59,480 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: was behind me. 393 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: I was on my back, laying down and it was 394 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: behind me and it grabbed me. And at that point 395 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 3: I was still looking up at the ceiling and I 396 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: could still see that weird shadow maybe like black fog, 397 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 3: And in that that one was the most like terror 398 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: that I've personally felt because it felt so ominous, like 399 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: it was evil. Yeah, And I couldn't move, I couldn't speak, 400 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 3: and you know, I was just like kind of waiting 401 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: and doing like like counting almost to myself, like just 402 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: waiting for it to go. I'm like, oh my god, 403 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: when I count, when I get to twenty, it's gonna 404 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 3: be gone. So I'm counting to twenty, like please plase, 405 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 3: I'm still not gone at twenty, and I keep going 406 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: and then I get to maybe about sixty seconds, so 407 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: it was about a minute, and then it released and 408 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: I literally ran into my mom's bedroom like I was 409 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 3: four years old, sobbing, and I was like moh oah, 410 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: my god. And She's just like, Jessica, you are dreaming. 411 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, first of all, I am twenty seven 412 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: years old. I am coherent right now. I was awake. 413 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: I was not dreaming. Don't talk to me like that. 414 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: But then it was so strange. Is the next day 415 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 3: I got a email from someone and a person back 416 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: in the day when I was like involved in the church, 417 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: I had gone on a missions trip to India and 418 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 3: someone that we had I had recently connected with again 419 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: via email. 420 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: Was murdered over there in India. 421 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that night, that night, and so there was 422 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: this weird like it felt connected to me because I 423 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: had been in contact with that person like the week 424 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: before and I hadn't spoken to them in years. Wow. Yeah, 425 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: and so something felt I don't know, it just felt 426 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: connected to me in a strange way and I couldn't 427 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: explain it. And it wasn't even the timing. There was 428 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 3: this weird thing in the back of my head that 429 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: it was like maybe I don't know, this just feels 430 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: this feels far away, but it feels dark and I 431 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: don't know. 432 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: Ugh, it was horrible interesting, Yes, it was horror. Say 433 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: so you said you could hear it talking. 434 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: Yes, but I can't. I can't remember, I can't decipher. 435 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: It's like, you should have Roz Jezvelas on your podcast. 436 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: Is that who told you to have me on your podcast? Yes? 437 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: It was the coffin nailed stiletto bitch goes who was 438 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: whispering and holding me down. 439 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: That was it. 440 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: You got me. But your mom hasn't had any other 441 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: problems in that house. 442 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: My mom says she hasn't, but I also don't necessarily 443 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 3: believe her. 444 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Is she's still a part of she's still very. 445 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 3: Religious, so I feel like she's maybe just not allowing 446 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: it to be connected in any way interesting, you know. 447 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, but we've had oh man, I've had 448 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: some some other like friends and family who've gone through 449 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: some like crazy crazy shit like what so okay, So 450 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: a really good friend of our families is a pastor, 451 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 3: and oh god, this is so creepy. So in general, 452 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: like I said that, like the church community that we 453 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: were involved in, like just didn't we didn't do demons. 454 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: We didn't talk about it. We don't do them. They 455 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: are not on our top three. But he got a 456 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: call one day from someone who went to the church, 457 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: and I happened to know the family who contacted him. 458 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: They are not people who are dramatic. They're not like me. 459 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: We're like something like falls over in my house and 460 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, call ex or sust the house is probably 461 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: on fire emotion, I don't know what's going on. But 462 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: they're so not that way. And they contacted him and 463 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: they're like, Okay, so we know you're a pastor, so 464 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: maybe you can help us out. But something strange is 465 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: going on in this house that we moved to and 466 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: they had been there for about six months. It was 467 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: a husband and wife and they had three little kids. 468 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: And I don't know what they knew about the house 469 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: before moving in, but within one month of them being here, 470 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: like stuff started to get really crazy. At first, it 471 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: was the kids. The kids would who were only like 472 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: super mellow. They'd go to bed, they'd have their thing, 473 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: you know. I think they were between the ages of 474 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: like eight and two, so there was like a drastic age. 475 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: But the older one was like low key whatever, started 476 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: to have these crazy night terrors, but like would claim 477 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: that it wasn't a nighttair, would claim that it was real, 478 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 3: and they were trying to like console her all the time. 479 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, the middle daughter started 480 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: to have the same issues, and they're going, oh, they're 481 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: rubbing off on each other. But it was the same story, 482 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: and it was about this little girl who was coming 483 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: in like to the room and threatening them and they'd 484 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: like she'd they would say that she was hurting them. 485 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: Oh my god, so just violent. 486 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: Right. 487 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: Well, cut to a few weeks later and the husband 488 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: and wife are sleeping in bed and all of a sudden, 489 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 3: they start hearing like violent vomiting uh in their bathroom 490 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh my god, one of the kids 491 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: got in, like what's wrong. One of the kids is sick. 492 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: They ducked out, go into the bathroom. Nothing's in there. 493 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: And they swear that the vomiting was still happening while 494 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: they were in the bathroom and it was loudest in 495 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: the bathroom. Wow. And so it just starts escalating and 496 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: getting worse. They're having kids screaming in the middle of 497 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: the night. The vomiting won't stop, like every night. 498 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: Yes. 499 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 3: And then at one point, like they get home one 500 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: day and there's nail marks, like fingernails all down the 501 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: hall uh uh yes, and they were like you know again, 502 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: people critics could say skeptics might say it's the kids, 503 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: but these kids were like horrified. Well, and they were little. 504 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: I was actually just thinking about that because what movie 505 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: was I saying. I was seeing scary stories tell in 506 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: the dark, and there is a scene where somebody drags 507 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: their fingernails and I was thinking, like, Okay, first of all, 508 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: you have to have strong ass fingernails. 509 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, seriously, I. 510 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: Get to damage your fingernails. 511 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 3: Like like you know, you're not paying for a set 512 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: going and doing that. 513 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: Absolutely no, So I I have a hard time believe. 514 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it can be possible, but 515 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean it depends what the walls may not of 516 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: YadA YadA. But like if you looked at your kid's fingers, 517 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: you would probably be able to tell. 518 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: Yes, and you would need like clause to do. Apparently 519 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: what happened because so then the family friend of ours 520 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: who's the pastor, said that he went over because he 521 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 3: was kind of like, Okay, I'm not an exorcist, Like 522 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: I don't really know what to do in this situation, 523 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: but the family at this point feels very threatened. The 524 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: kids are horrified, and everything seems to just be getting 525 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 3: worse and worse. And again the feeling was like violent, 526 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: you know. And he said he saw the claw marks. 527 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: They were deep and real, and he's just like, yeah, 528 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: this kid, it's a kid's not going to do that now. 529 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: And when you talk to the kids, like these kids 530 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: weren't old enough or you know, conniving enough to do 531 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: something like that, and he was like, I don't know 532 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: what to tell you, Like I really don't. I guess 533 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: all someone to sage the place, like I have no 534 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: idea to get an ex I have no idea, and 535 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: they eventually moved out because I guess it just started 536 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: to just get out of hand. Wow. 537 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel like that's typically a Catholic thing, like, 538 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, an exorcist. I don't know if pastors. I 539 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: don't think that they do. 540 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 3: I don't think so. The house, yeah, I think that, 541 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: like they just called him because they were like, we 542 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 3: don't know what else to do, Like who are we 543 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: supposed to call? 544 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah there now, I don't know. 545 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: I think about that all the time all the time. 546 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: And also who lived there before some puky nail girl. 547 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: Oh god. I get scared when moving in somewhere new always, 548 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: of course, I always get scared, I know, and like 549 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: reveal yourself immediately because I need to know whether I 550 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 3: can unpack and settle down because I hate moving. I 551 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: don't want to pack up. I don't want to be 552 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: haunted by some vomity woman or whatever. 553 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: I know, and like, I'm not putting the wallpaper if 554 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: you're going to be scratching it. 555 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: That is expensive and it is a pain in the 556 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: ass to put up. 557 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 558 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, but that's the thing. Like, 559 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: I guess I'm drawn to it, maybe because it just 560 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: wasn't allowed when I grew up and I was always 561 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: so curious. Same thing. It's like, you know, I watch 562 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: all the serial killer documentaries, like I'm so intrigued and 563 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: not like in an Oh my god, I love this, 564 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: but you have to know. I want to know. 565 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: I think knowledge is power and situations like that, and 566 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: sometimes you can learn from experiences or you know, I 567 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: think I think it. I think it has made me. 568 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: It's a fine line between paranoid and just prepared when 569 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: it comes to like watching true crime and ghost things 570 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: because I'm like that that could be a sign of 571 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: an exorcism, or that person looked at me weird. That 572 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: means that they might murder me. 573 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: Like oh, I always have my my keys in between 574 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: my nails. I'm always ready to go. Now you know, 575 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: I'm prepared. I'm prepared. But as doing this podcast like 576 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 3: made you so scared all the time. 577 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: Now it's it fluctuates because I was at first so 578 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: overwhelmed by so many ghost stories that and and always 579 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: stuff at nighttime. It's always stuff that that affects you 580 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: when you're sleeping, like, oh, a ghost was hovering over 581 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 1: me when I'm sleeping. That A lot of that happens 582 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: around these parts. I hear lots of stories like that, 583 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of the time I read the messages 584 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: that people send me after I've done a gig and 585 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: I come home and I'm like unwinding and like always 586 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: like why. 587 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: Yes, And then it's a ghost story about like something 588 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: horrifying involving water. 589 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Oh you know what always happens. I have the weirdest 590 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: thing ever where I drive home after like a busy 591 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: day and I don't want to get out of my car, 592 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: so I'll just like sit there with like maybe the 593 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: ac go and maybe some jams, and I'm like, let 594 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: me just like check like emails and whatever, and then 595 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: I'll start I'm like, ooh, this one looks good. And 596 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: then I'm reading and then I'm in my car with 597 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: like windows all around me, and I'm like, I can't 598 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: get out of this car. I'm crazy. 599 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god, I don't know how 600 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: to do it. 601 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm starting to be a little bit well, I was 602 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm starting to become a little bit more brave. 603 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: But then I had a paranormal experience a couple weeks ago. 604 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard this one, but I 605 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: fled a hotel at two am because there was a 606 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: ghost in there and I got scared. 607 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I saw it on your Insta stories. 608 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: But I have okay, I need to listen to listen 609 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: to it. It's oh my god, it's so creepy. You know. See, 610 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: I need I need someone like you to go and 611 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: stay in the hotels because all of my friends are like, 612 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: hell no, none of them will do it. 613 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's something you want to do, is 614 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: go stay in a haunted place. 615 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: Oh for sure? Really, yeah, I'm very curious. Now, I 616 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: don't know if I'll be able to like actually do it. 617 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: Like I'd get there and I'd unpack, and then I'd 618 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: be like, this is going to be a pass for me, 619 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: and I'd leave. Maybe. 620 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: Well that's what I did. Here's what I'm down for 621 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: is going to a hotel, a haunted hotel, and staying 622 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: up all night with a group of people. 623 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: Oh sure, sure, sure, yeah, I don't expect to sleep. No. 624 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: And that was the problem was that the friend I 625 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: was with was like, Oh, we're going to bed and 626 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: we're going to wake up in the morning and after 627 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: learning and reading all day that there's a ghost in 628 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: here that messes with you when you're sleeping. 629 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, your friend was able to just fall asleep. 630 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's never had an experience. Whatever. No, yeah, 631 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't never, no, no, no, no. 632 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I did forget to tell Oh, I 633 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 3: forgot to tell this. 634 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Tell me. 635 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I totally I can't believe I forgot 636 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: about this. Now I'm thinking demons. I did see an exorcism. 637 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Where was it an India? 638 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: It was an India. 639 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the story here. 640 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: So I was over in India years ago, and it 641 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: was with my old school and we were there for 642 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: like service projects, and a lot of them were associated 643 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 3: with like the Christian church community. So one of the 644 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: people who would take us around was this local pastor 645 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: and one day he let us go into the slums. 646 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: And you have these people who, you know, have these 647 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: illnesses that are just absolutely terrible, like things that would 648 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: be one curable if they had the means to go 649 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: to and get medical care. But basically the pastor would 650 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: go out to these slums and like pray for these people. 651 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 3: So there'd be these long lines waiting for him when 652 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: he'd show up, and I was already very uncomfortable with 653 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: the whole situation, like this just seems very strange and 654 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: general to me, and I feel weird about this, But 655 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: I was supposed to be there with him, So me 656 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: and three of the other students were there, and they're. 657 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: Just curious, would he charge people for this? No? 658 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: No, no no, But it was definitely like this whole 659 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: like white savior business that have opinions about. But this 660 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: is a fun podcast. So but there's this long line. 661 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: Everyone's just waiting to get prayed over, and it's just 662 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: a lot of people who are sick or you know, 663 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: have a family member who's ill. Finally they bring up 664 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: this woman and like four people are holding her and 665 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: it's like a rabid situation, right, So she's violently like 666 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: screaming and moving and her eyes are just like elsewhere 667 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: and there's like foaming at the mouth happening. Yes, And 668 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: I am in my baby college self, just like, oh 669 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: my god, what did I get into? I hate this, 670 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: Like I'm so scared. And of course, as soon as 671 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: they bring her up, he looked the pastor looks back 672 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 3: at us and goes, she's possessed. I have to perform 673 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: an exorcism. And I'm like, honey, this is not what 674 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: the college like registration said. I thought I was just 675 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 3: going in a superce project. I did not realize that 676 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: I was going to be participating in this. And he's 677 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: like the person and now this sucks. So he just 678 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: like points at me. First of all, Okay, he starts 679 00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: talking to her, praying. I don't understand because he's speaking Hindi, 680 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: and I am shook to the core, and she continues 681 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: to like move violently, and then finally she stops moving 682 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 3: after he's prayed a certain amount, and then he turns 683 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 3: around and he points at me just like that finger, 684 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: and he goes, you, I need you to hold onto her, 685 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: and I'm like, God, no, please, it's gonna pass over 686 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: to me, and so I have to go. They've now 687 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 3: like managed to put her on her knees facing him, 688 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: and I have to hold like stand above her and 689 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 3: hold her shoulders. Oh my gosh. And so he keeps 690 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: doing this prayer and then like touches her head and 691 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: she just like bends back like almost like there was 692 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: no bones in her body, Like I don't know how 693 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 3: to explain it except for that like on her knees 694 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: and just collapses backwards and I'm just oh my god, 695 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: oh my god. He's like, okay, keep holding onto her whatever. 696 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: And she had this like twitchy thing happen, and it 697 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: almost seemed like a seizure, and then she was quiet 698 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: for about a mins it and then sat up and. 699 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: She's like, hey, guys, this is just like, oh my goodness, 700 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: you would have. 701 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 3: A mimosa available because that was rough. No, but yeah, 702 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: it was just like you think you've had a bad day, please, 703 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: but yeah. And I didn't even know, like I was 704 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: messed up for like a week after seeing it. I 705 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: bet I didn't even know how to handle it. And 706 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 3: then part of me, you know, is looking at it scientifically, 707 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: going like is this woman schizophrenic and is unable to 708 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 3: get medication? Like is there's this Are these just seizures? 709 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: Like I don't understand which. 710 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: Could be true exactly, or how do you explain Like, 711 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean, how was she acting once. 712 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: Completely I mean completely normal in the sense that there 713 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 3: was nothing like violent was happening. She just seemed kind 714 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 3: of quiet and shaken up and kind of just walked 715 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: away with her family. Wow. Yeah, And then I was 716 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: just asking him, was like excuse me, and I was 717 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 3: just again shy college. I'm like, excuse me, can you 718 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 3: explain to me what just happened? And he made some 719 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 3: kind of overarching comment about like the things of Satan 720 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 3: shouldn't be spoken about, and I'm like, but you just 721 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: made me hold her, so can you give me? 722 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: Can give me a little bit. 723 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to give me a little bit of 724 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: the demon tee because I'm very confused. Yeah, oh god. 725 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: But have you ever seen those videos where it's like someone, 726 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, they put the pastor puts the hand on 727 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: the person and they start shaking and fall in. Yes, 728 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what. 729 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't think I believe that. But this was 730 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 3: This wasn't like that televised. There was no money. He's 731 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: not getting paid. I don't know. It felt different. Maybe 732 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: it's because I was there, but I don't know. 733 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, usually those those videos, it's I mean, if anyone 734 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: can know bad acting, it's me and I can sense 735 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: it from a mile away. And you're kind of like, 736 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, really like you're gonna like they look behind 737 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: them before they fall back and it is this gonna 738 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: kill me. But this woman like she's foaming at the mouth, 739 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: she's you know, bending, like she has no bones, and like. 740 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 3: We're in the slums of India, like no one's trying 741 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 3: to like throw the drama on for anyone. They have 742 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 3: enough going on. Like it felt very real. Wow, yeah, 743 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 3: so then I was just even more interested. Maybe that's 744 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: when you. 745 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: Were an exorcist assistant. 746 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 3: I didn't know either. 747 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: Resume. 748 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to I think I'm going to 749 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: make that my Instagram bio now. 750 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: Along with fashion styles, former fashion Styles, Former fashion Style, which, 751 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: speaking of what do you think of this outfit I'm wearing? 752 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 3: I have to say this to the listeners. The amount 753 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 3: of peacock feathers happening is appalling. 754 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: Like I love it, but it's a little vegan peacock feathers. 755 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 3: Well we're grateful for that, but like you know, we're 756 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 3: a few feet away and the peacock feathers are like 757 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: in my eyes practically, so my goodness, you turn it 758 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 3: up for this. I mean, this is a podcast. I 759 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 3: normally just kind of dress in my sweats, not me, 760 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: I know, my goodness, full face and everything. 761 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices. 762 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm afraid, but I would love to sure find. 763 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: Okay, it is now timed for it EVP or ev 764 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: paseh gosh, Okay, suggest Here's what I do. I go 765 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: to YouTube. I type in EVPs, real, EVPs, whatever I 766 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: can find. For hours, I search until I find what 767 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: someone someone's recording of a ghost voice. I want you 768 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: to guess what this ghost voice says. Okay. This was 769 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: uploaded by somebody named Mystic Ghost. It is at the 770 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: Baker Hotel in Mineral Wells, Texas. Tell me what you 771 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: think this ghost is saying. Okay, it's real quick, but 772 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: if you really like focus in, what is it? 773 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm really freaked out at what I'm hearing. 774 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 3: I'm here like, push her head, push her head. 775 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll give you some options. Okay, is it A 776 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: I'm a spooky bitch. B How do I look? See 777 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: House up the Dead? Or D I'll kick your ass. 778 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 3: Oh it's for sure. It is for sure House of 779 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 3: the Dead the Dead. 780 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so spooky. 781 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: I know. 782 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 3: Oh I don't like that at all. 783 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't either. Okay, here's another one. Okay, this one's 784 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: not quite as spooky and it's a quick one. This 785 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: is from half Paranormal, and I believe he recorded this 786 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: in his house. It's real staticky in. 787 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 3: Hearing, Like, first of all, it's a very beautiful sexy voice. 788 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: I know you know I'm coming. Okay, yeah you can stay. 789 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 3: I know. Hey girl, I'm hearing like I love something 790 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 3: or it's. 791 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: Not me, it's not me, or you love something. 792 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I love is she saying I love me? 793 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,240 Speaker 3: I love me? She's a dvat. She's very she understands herself, 794 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 3: she knows her self worth total. She's a woman who 795 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: loves herself. I know. 796 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: She's totally like, you are trying to capture me, and 797 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: I love me. I don't blame you. 798 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 3: You you are trying to save me out of your house. 799 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 3: But honey, you can't because I love me, I love 800 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: to my self. Value is skyrocketing through this house. 801 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 1: So please, She's like, sage cannot contain all of this fabulousity, bitch. Well, okay, 802 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: is it a he loves you? D good luck? C 803 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: kill her? Or D how my nails look? 804 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 3: Is it he loves you? He loves you? 805 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that kind of changes the backstory. So she 806 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: goes from saying I love me too, he loves you. 807 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: I wonder what he's talking about. 808 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah I hear that. Now for sure 809 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 3: I heard the love. 810 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: There's definitely a clear love. 811 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: It's a love. And again she's so fab like I'm 812 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: not surprised. 813 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: She's like, he loves you. 814 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. Stop crying of your friends, Like 815 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 3: you know, you get a little bit of that self worth. 816 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 3: He loves you. You're good. 817 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think that's it. 818 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I had so much fun with you. 819 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: I am obsessed with you. And we have to get back. 820 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 3: Yes, we have to get Becca because Becca has a 821 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: had She has some crazy stories. I know she definitely 822 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 3: like has what you have where like there's that communication 823 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 3: with the the maybe the maybe dead, maybe the undead, 824 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. And so she's got some crazy stories. 825 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to tell some of hers, but I'm resisting 826 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 3: today because I'll leave that to her. 827 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: We should have her in here, well, tell us where 828 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: we can find you and your podcast and everything. 829 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 3: So the podcast is Chatty Broad's with Becka and Jess. 830 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 3: We're on all the platforms, iTunes, Spotify, all that. 831 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: It's a real popular podcast. 832 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 3: You know, we have amazing the broad Squad are We 833 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 3: love our fans. 834 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: There's like a now a broad Squad ghost boot. 835 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 3: Oh, they adore you. We get lots of d ms 836 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 3: about you, lots of d ms. 837 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: I want to go back for Halloween. Oh will you 838 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: please please? 839 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm going to drag you by your wig, Carol. 840 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: You know that's not hard to do. Oh yeah, and 841 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll I'll wear these peacock feathers and all the shebang 842 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: next time. 843 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect any less. 844 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with Jess. And go listen 845 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: to Chatty Brad's of course, you know, start off with 846 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: the episode that I am on, because we had a 847 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: blast and we all told ghost stories. And hopefully I'll 848 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: be back there soon. Thank you so much for listening 849 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: to the show. Guys, I'm working on doing a live 850 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: show in Los Angeles, so get excited for that. Also, 851 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm on Cameo now, and I love Cameo. It's so 852 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: much fun because you can, you know, have me send 853 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: you some kind of fun message, or you can have 854 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: me send a message for a friend or whatever. So 855 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: you go to cameo dot com slash Roz Dress Valise. 856 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: I'm also on Facebook Roz Dress Vals, Instagram at Roz 857 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: Dress fALS and please join the Facebook group ghosted by 858 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: Roz Dress Fales where you can post your funny ghost 859 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: y memes, you can say nice things about me, you 860 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: can share your ghost story and of course I love 861 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: it when you share ghost stories on Apple podcasts by 862 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: giving the show five stars, and you can write a 863 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: review with a ghost story. And if you don't have 864 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: a ghost story. 865 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 3: Just leave five stars. Why not? 866 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 2: What does it cost to you? 867 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't cost you nothing, but it's great for the show. 868 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: We are back next week with an incredible story. I 869 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: cannot wait to share it with you. So thanks for listening. 870 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if 871 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. 872 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: Hey by 873 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 3: Star Bans, a podcast network