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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, I'm good things.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 2: We're doing? Okay, I's waiting by the phone.

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Speaker 1: So what we're trying to figure out is why you

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Speaker 1: may have been ghosted by this guy that you met

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Speaker 1: on Hinge. So tell us about Christian that's his name.

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Speaker 1: You met on Hinge and then what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my friends and I are calling him Christian Gray

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Speaker 3: by the way, you know, like because he's been so

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Speaker 3: know the fifty Shades is great guy, Christian Gray.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we met on Hinge and we went out twice,

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Speaker 3: and during our second date we were like having a

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Speaker 3: then he just never called, and it was it was

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Speaker 4: Huh, very weird.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, we don't often hear about a third

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Speaker 2: To know why.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's call this guy just a second. We'll

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Speaker 1: see if we can get Christian on the phone, and

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Speaker 2: Sound good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds great.

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Speaker 1: Let's find out what's going on Part two of waiting

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Speaker 1: by the phone. After this song goes, you can't back

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Speaker 1: in two minutes?

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Speaker 2: Still move.

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Speaker 1: It's the Fread Show, Joe. It's the Fread Show on

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Speaker 1: the radio and the iHeart app live at any time.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's got a fresh show on demand. Oh

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Speaker 1: and you can make us a preset too. The podcast

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Speaker 1: fread show on demand, the stage already listen to us,

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Speaker 1: so why don't you do that?

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Speaker 2: Please?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate you. Hey, Angela, Hell all right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Let's call Christian. Just to recap you. Guys

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Speaker 1: third date. So we're looking into the future here. Except

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Speaker 1: after the second date, you never heard from this man again.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi is this Christian? Oh yeah, this is see Hey Christian,

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Speaker 1: My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred Show,

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Speaker 2: You, thank you very much. We're calling on behalf of

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Speaker 1: Her name is Angela, says that you guys met on

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Speaker 1: Oh this may surprise people, but I don't really have

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Speaker 3: Don't like him. I do, but I just think it's

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Speaker 1: I guess if you if you really like somebody, it's

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Speaker 4: say it's just not a fit. Like I want someone

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Speaker 4: who wants to fully commit and try and you know,

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Speaker 4: be vulnerable, and if you got one fit out the

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Speaker 4: door the whole time, then you're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: So no, but look, I mean she did, in fairness,

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Speaker 1: even though she wants to quote unquote keep her options open,

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Speaker 1: she did wonder about you enough to call us and

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Speaker 1: do all this.

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Speaker 2: So I mean she obviously liked you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you never know what happens on the line.

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Speaker 5: That's why I think it's a little too early to

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Speaker 5: call it. But hey, what do I know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So, but no, that's only day one second, Okay, staying

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Speaker 1: your ground don't business?

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Speaker 2: That's right business, that's right, key, I mean what about it?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been on the dating amps ski? Key? No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking to be intentional and be with one person,

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Speaker 1: then that's your prerogative. She he is, and she's looking

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Speaker 1: right now to sort of maybe not yet make that

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Speaker 1: discriminate also her progative. Neither one of them are wrong,

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Speaker 1: They're just looking for two different things. And look, if

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Speaker 1: I want a girlfriend and I meet somebody who's amazing

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Speaker 1: and stands out well above all the rest, that I

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Speaker 1: might put more emphasis on trying to make that work.

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Speaker 1: If I'm looking for a relationship, and if she is too,

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Speaker 1: then she might be open to that. But yet they're

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Speaker 1: not looking at the same thing.

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Speaker 5: So so how I would say that Fred though, is Hey,

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Speaker 5: just so you know, you could do whatever you want.

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Speaker 5: I'm really into you, and I'm going to delete my

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Speaker 5: app and then you let them respond and it's not

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Speaker 5: like controlling, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that makes a lot of sense. I

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Speaker 1: think that makes a lot of sense. But I can

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Speaker 1: see the insecurity of knowing that you've got somebody great

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Speaker 1: and they're like, no, I want to keep going On

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Speaker 1: other days it's like, well that doesn't Yeah, we're not

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Speaker 1: building anything then, but that she doesn't want to, so

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Speaker 1: it's all good. So nobody's really in the wrong, but

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Speaker 1: it's not going to work out. Guys, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for your time. Best of luks at both of you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: The Entertainer Report and Shelley versus Kevin three hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty bucks in this showdown.

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Speaker 2: Both next Fred's Show