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Speaker 1: Hey, we welcome in. I'm godli in this well, this

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Speaker 1: is the all new all We have a great guest

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Speaker 1: Lie Wayne's gonna join us. We'll talk about his feelings

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Speaker 1: on the Lakers winning a championship. Wait to hear his

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Jordan's versus lebron now, and of course we'll

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Speaker 1: hear about his story some really really fun stuff, including

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Speaker 1: way to hear about his trip to ri Odd, which

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Speaker 1: I believe was his last live performance before Quarantine. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna love it. It's a I just told my son

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Speaker 1: the story and he was dying. He's amazing story. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're joining you here the morning after the NBA Championship,

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Speaker 1: right this is I'm recording this right after the NBA

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Speaker 1: Championship was decided to bronze the m v P. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers completely and utterly eviscerated the mind heat, the heat.

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Speaker 1: They just ran out of gas, right out of magic.

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Speaker 1: And I do think it's fair to point out that

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Speaker 1: the Lakers didn't play the Clippers, the Bucks, the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: the seventies sixers, you know, viewed as the raptors, the

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Speaker 1: elite teams. Obviously the Warriors shut it down for the year,

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Speaker 1: and um, the Brooklyn Nets really chose not to compete

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Speaker 1: with their elite level players. That said, we don't go

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Speaker 1: back historically through most other championships and point out that

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Speaker 1: magic was hurt when the Pistons won their second back

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Speaker 1: to back title, that magic was magic was hurt during

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Speaker 1: the back to back NBA title run for the Detroit Pistons,

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Speaker 1: or that Larry Bird never played against Isaiah and the

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Speaker 1: Celtics in either the two years that they won the championship, Like,

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Speaker 1: we don't go back and do that, So let's not

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Speaker 1: go back and totally do that and take away from

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Speaker 1: what Lebron was able to do in the moment, though,

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Speaker 1: and in painting pure context is fair, right, Like they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be the Clippers, the clip first choked against

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets, and so they didn't play the elite

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Speaker 1: teams of the NBA. That said, there were still challenges.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have Avery Bradley, They needed re Gen Rondo

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Speaker 1: to somehow conjure upt this playoff Rondo thing that most

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Speaker 1: people thought no way and myself included, and yet he

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Speaker 1: did kind of conjure it up. Um, they found a

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Speaker 1: way to call together a backcourt and make it work.

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Speaker 1: This without Kyle Kuzma being anywhere near what they hoped

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Speaker 1: he would be. I think Anthony Davis was better than

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Speaker 1: anyone could have hoped he could be, because he competed

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Speaker 1: at both ends and there were times which he carried

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Speaker 1: the team offensively, Which was a big question for Anthony

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Speaker 1: Davis coming out of this run with the Pelicans, which

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Speaker 1: is basically, um, you know, did he have the ability

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Speaker 1: answers no. But with Lebron the answer was resounding yes. Um.

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Speaker 1: It was a fascinating year. But the Lakers won the championship.

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Speaker 1: They weren't always super cohesive, even in the bubble that

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Speaker 1: there were moments in which they were ready to go. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there's frustrations that Avery Brad they didn't make the trip.

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Speaker 1: Their frustrations in just kind of the fact that they're

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Speaker 1: sitting in a hotel for months on end. And I

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Speaker 1: think the couple of things that helped were one, Um,

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Speaker 1: the entire league was protesting what happened in Kenosha. That

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Speaker 1: really helped them. They were tired, they were fried. Shortly

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Speaker 1: thereafter their families arrived, which really rejuvenated a lot of

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Speaker 1: the older players who were just things had grown very,

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Speaker 1: very stale. And then Nomber they played the Houston Rockets,

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Speaker 1: who were coming off a seven game series, so they

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Speaker 1: Right then they got the Denver Nuggets, again coming off

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Speaker 1: And I do think Jimmy Butler's kind of warrior status

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Speaker 1: course not. But we don't go back, or at least

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Speaker 1: first year they won the NBA Championship, everybody was without

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Speaker 1: we do paint a true context of things. It's fair

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Speaker 1: in the true context of it. Nonetheless, it's title number

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Speaker 1: seventeen for the Lakers, title number four for Lebron. He

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Speaker 1: we can celebrate just how cohesive they were, well coached

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Speaker 1: and how good their defense was. The NBA pulled off

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Speaker 1: And when the Lakers win NBA championship, instead of doing

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Speaker 1: all those other jerseys and the rafters aren't there, it's

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Speaker 1: a different feeling. But considering all the other things going

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Speaker 1: bit of the tip of the cap, don't you. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we got some other basketball stuff to talk about, interesting

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Speaker 1: many bubbles I know. Yeah, by the way, won't be

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Speaker 1: Let's get to our discussion with the great Little Way,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's welcome him in. Um. I think you

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Speaker 1: So look recording this. The Lakers just one their seventeenth title.

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Speaker 1: I see where in purple and gold? Like, when did

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Speaker 1: you be? Are you? Are you just Lebron Laker fan?

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Speaker 1: Are you Kobe Laker fan? Are you back in the

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Speaker 1: late because ever since did you meet Kobe? Yes, I

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Speaker 1: just like, look, we're not wired the same. Like we're okay,

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Speaker 1: when Lebron came over? Uh, the first thing I thought

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Speaker 1: and none of them was for the none of them

425
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: was the actual check. I was telling that that's coming.

426
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 1: I was like, this is just some She was so

427
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: she she thought she she came to my room and

428
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: then she was like, she's like, is this the type

429
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: of money you're gonna be making the normally? And I

430
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: was like, I don't plan on stopping, and I'm the

431
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: youngest out of them all, and she was like she

432
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: she went back in her room and I could hear

433
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: her talking on the phone with her friend or something,

434
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,120
Speaker 1: and so she would really start considering taking me out

435
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: of school. And with the probably that month I was

436
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: pulled out of school. Um, do you remember where you

437
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: were when you were told it? When platinum in school

438
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: did something like elbow you. Somebody come into school to

439
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: me in the class like how did you find out? Yeah,

440
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: friends that friends that was into things like that, friends

441
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: that checked my album sales and things. Friends that's gonna

442
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 1: always check the bill. But you know, you got those

443
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 1: friends gonna always let you know, man, such a mystical

444
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: soul more than you just things like that, they saw

445
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna stay said that trying. You know, I mean

446
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: that by my name, it was your bladder and so

447
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 1: also but um, baby, and they just um. Selling hundred

448
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: thousand copies in the first week. That used to be

449
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: a goal for us, like cash money, and so that

450
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: was a personal goal that we always had. You must

451
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: sell a hundred thousand copies in the first week. So

452
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: I'll topped that and that first week, so that was

453
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: already we baby and them had already told me you're

454
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: about you're probably about to go platinum because I sold

455
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 1: way more than I was supposed to the first way,

456
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: more than a hundred thousand in the first week. So

457
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: that right there was they already had congratulated me, and

458
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: I already had that feeling. You mentioned cash money, all right,

459
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: so that's when we got your starts with with cash money.

460
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: What was that like though back then? Like was it

461
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what my imagination tells me,

462
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: but what was it like when you guys are all

463
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,360
Speaker 1: kind of up and coming together. Um. First of all,

464
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: cash Money they were, Um, they were huge in New

465
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: Orleans before before me period, they were just huge and

466
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans they were the hugest record label you The

467
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: radio stations played nothing but cash Money records and master

468
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: p and No Limit. They came up after cash Money,

469
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: and so the cash Money was the local gods. So

470
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: what that said. Once I got with him, I was

471
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: still in awe that I am even being able to

472
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 1: be around these guys. So everything for me was still

473
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: just I was. I was just extra happy to do it.

474
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: And so coming up with him, I never felt that

475
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: we was you know that we we we were struggling

476
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: to come up and I kind of looked at it

477
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: like we saw the door in front of us and

478
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: we ran through it. When was when was the time

479
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: to which you felt like outside of Nolan that you

480
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: felt okay? This is like, I know, when you go platinum,

481
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: people obviously taking notice it's a ridiculous number of albums

482
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: being sold. But when was the time when you're outside

483
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: of your hometown and everywhere that you go people recognize you.

484
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 1: You know, you hear your music on the radio, you

485
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: see people bumping your music when you when you guys

486
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: are run around. When was that that time like oh,

487
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: this is this is this is big um Like you

488
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: said again, like I told you earlier, I was so

489
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: used to performing and so used to getting a crowd reaction.

490
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: So that was so when I would go places in

491
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: the South and get that yeah action, it was always

492
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm always happy to get any kind of action. I love.

493
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's my goal to my drive the reaction.

494
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: But when I went to New York do and and

495
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: I went to New York for the first time and

496
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: walked through, you know, like I would see on the

497
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: movies and see all the people walk in, and man,

498
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: I expected to be one of the people, you know,

499
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: just walking them out, walking about, and once noticed that

500
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't walk about because everybody that's that's that's that's

501
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: when you hit me. Yeah, yeah, that's gotta be like

502
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, you can't imagine. This is more of

503
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: a producer question. But again this is like I'm like

504
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: reliving my childhood through my son. And he asked me

505
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: like some really questions. She's like, how do they how

506
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: do they put how do they collaborate, how they put

507
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: the beach together, how do they figure everything else. So

508
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: like do you wait a track is laid out and

509
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: then you wrap to the track, or do you you

510
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: write out what you want You're like what you're gonna say,

511
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: and then somebody finds a track to match to it?

512
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: Like how does it? How does it all come together?

513
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Every single way you just said, there's no one way.

514
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: Every single way you said. There's produces that already have

515
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: a name. You know, there's great producers that you know

516
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: him for their name Timberlance with beats, people like that,

517
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So of with those people,

518
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: you know, they're sending you a batchel of beats, I

519
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: mean like ten, ten to twelve beats, and you know

520
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: you make the most you pick one, you pick whatever

521
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: you like out of them, and you make the most

522
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: of you make a song to it, like you just said.

523
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: But then then you can get there as a time

524
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: when you have your own people. And so that's what

525
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean by that is your producers in the studio

526
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: with you, and he's he or she is watching you

527
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: come up there with you coming up with your ideas,

528
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: and they're listening to what you come up with, and

529
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: they start working and they start making something to it.

530
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: So if you tell them I'm coming up with something

531
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: for love, I'm coming up with something dark, they already

532
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: know what to do it. But for me, the way

533
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: I usually do it, give me the beat? Yeah, okay,

534
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: So so and do you know like I feel like

535
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: as a listener, I can tell you like in the

536
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: first bar, like, oh, that's ahead, right, I got that's it? Uh?

537
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: Can you listen to a beat like I got this?

538
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Or do you listen to it all the way all

539
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: the way through? Absolutely? Definitely? Soon does the intro come on?

540
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: If I don't like something that just happened? But cut

541
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: that one off? Why this? Why does it? Why does

542
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: so many guys try to sound like Drake right now?

543
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: Like I get it? But it does feel like there's

544
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: like when he's doing Drake, like that's like that would

545
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: be like me doing a Cowherd impression all the time

546
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: like that, you know, or doing skip or whatever. But

547
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: like it does feel like everybody has decided. You know,

548
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: I used to have my own style, but now I'm

549
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: just gonna do Drake because the Drake thing works. So

550
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: what it is is the way I can answer that

551
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: I would I would say, obviously the obvious reason would

552
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: be because it's work and it works as I do,

553
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna try to do it works. But for some reason,

554
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when you do something when when

555
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: people I think when people start doing exactly what you're

556
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: doing and things like that, they don't think that they

557
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: could do it better a than you, you know, and

558
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: so some people probably And again it is either those

559
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: two things. Either you think I could do it better

560
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: than or you're thinking, Shoot, as it was working, let's

561
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: keep a moving. I want to do exactly what's working.

562
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: And I guess that's how I Actually I don't, you know,

563
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't answer it because that do me.

564
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: You I know you do, and that's that's one of

565
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: these respect most about you. Um, it's interesting you've been

566
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: in the game a long time now, right, like you're

567
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: not old like when I when I retiring you, but

568
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: you've been but it has how how much has it

569
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: changed now with people downloading things and in terms of

570
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: the finances to it, in terms of the performances I

571
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: want to get to that what it's like to not

572
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: perform for like a year now, um, But but just

573
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: in terms of the game itself, recording and how you

574
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: see things downloaded and how you're paid. How much has

575
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: that changed here in the last five years, there's a

576
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: collosso changed, the colossal change um the new artists today,

577
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: I try my hardest to tell them to show them

578
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: some kind of weights, or to tell them that the

579
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: question you have to me before about what that feeling

580
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: feels like when when someone contact comes to tell you that, hey,

581
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: you just went platinum. Hey you know, I just checked

582
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: the charts, and to remember what they have to consider

583
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: what I had was always considers that that meant at

584
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: those times, that meant someone physically went out and bought

585
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: my stuff. Yeah, it's totally different and you can get it,

586
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: you know, with the type of a finger and things

587
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: like that. So the obviously that changes it hugely financially,

588
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, hugely from everything. Everyone can make, everyone can lose,

589
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: anyone can make, anyone can lose. When I was when

590
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: I started it, you had you know, it was it

591
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: was like the league. You know when they tell you

592
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: any league, NBA, NFL, when they tell you those when

593
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: they give you that percentage, you know, when they tell

594
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: you there's a zillion kids that that went to college

595
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: that plays this sport only on Yeah, yeah, that thing.

596
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: So that's that's how it was when I stepped in there.

597
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: You know, like I knew a billion people are rapping,

598
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: only one or two of them made it, you know.

599
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: And now if I know a billion people rapping, I'm

600
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: probably about to see a billion videos. Yeah, that's well.

601
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: The video thing has changed though, too, right. I mean,

602
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: like I was talking about this on my show like

603
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: last week when we were talking who was like Van

604
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: Helen right, Like I remember Hot for Teacher, Like that

605
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: was a video I remember. I remember, and you know,

606
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: my direstase, I remember christmens in Hollis with running MC right.

607
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: But I also remember what used to suck was you

608
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: would have to buy like the full cassette you have

609
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: the dual cassette players. I remember when the dual cassette

610
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: players came out. You have to buy the full focus

611
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: set and then you dub it on your mixtape, your mixtape, right,

612
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: and then the then the CDs came out and you

613
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: stop people stop knowing the names of songs like oh,

614
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: you gotta get number two. I'm that guy. I'm that guy.

615
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Now you have to know the names where you kind

616
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: of have to know who the at least the artist is.

617
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: But that's even hard because you've got a little baby,

618
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: and you got dove baby, and I get confused as

619
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: the witches witch and then my daddy called himself baby.

620
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: So you yeah, I'm going on out here? Yeah yeah,

621
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: uh okay? What about the performing? Like you are somebody

622
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: who when you're in a room and energizes you. Right,

623
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: And because when was the last time you were on

624
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: the stage in front of people? Man, I want to say,

625
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: I think super Bowl? I think so that party? Yeah,

626
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: I think so. I think that might have been the

627
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: last time I was on if I can't really recall

628
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: nothing other than uh, other than read Saudi Arabia. Other

629
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: than that, I can't. We don't don't don't I got

630
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: something in that story? So how does that? How does

631
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: an appearance in Riod come to be? Like your boy,

632
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: your your agent calls you or like you get a

633
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: call like do you want to go to Riod? And

634
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: you're like how much? Like you know is? How does

635
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: it work? Are you just hit it on the head? Uh? Yeah, Steve, Steve,

636
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey said. Steve Harvey said, I don't go anywhere

637
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: from Hunter Grand to h to fifty out. That's what

638
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: he said, right, so okay, so give me the give

639
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: me give me the rio phone call? What was that?

640
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Put it like this, Steve Harb is nicer than me,

641
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: it's the most than Yeah, he did, like, do they

642
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: fly you private? Or did you go like your amori?

643
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: But I haven't, thank god, I'm not on what I

644
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: haven't seen a commercial airline about seventeen years. You get on,

645
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: you fly the rial, so open the door and then

646
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: one man. It's a funny story. So what happens is

647
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: I get there, fly private. If you're gonna if you're

648
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna land at a weird time like four in the morning,

649
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: type of thing they usually just have because you gotta

650
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: go through customs. They usually just have about five or

651
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: six people set up to just to just to be

652
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: there for you, you know, for you guys to get there,

653
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: put you through the whole situation, and so they could

654
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: go home as well. And so that's how it was.

655
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: That's how it was set up at about ten people

656
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: staff members there. Everything was going, well, I put my

657
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: my backpack on a little thing that you I guess

658
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: that that goes through or whatever, and so the lady

659
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: stopped it. She said, uh, she she can't look at

660
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: you because it's you know, it's us already read. She

661
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: came to look you in the eyes. So she's like,

662
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: you you've got too much. You have over twenty five

663
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: dollars worth of jury. I think she was saying, so

664
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: I have to declare it. I don't know. So me,

665
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: I have no patients, Doug. I was just like, uh. Also,

666
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: my pilot was like, um, same guy've been flying me

667
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: for seventeen years. He was like, you know what, I

668
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: ain't I'm tired. But he was like, um, do Bay

669
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: is about two hours away. He was like, if you

670
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: can make it to do Bye, we canna. We can.

671
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: We can spend a night and do By if you

672
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: feel if that's what you're gonna do. If you don't

673
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna do it, I was like, man, that's not so.

674
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was like, well, I'm

675
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: not doing this. I wouldn't got back on my plane.

676
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: I was like, forget it. I don't know what she

677
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: trying to say. I don't know. Like I'm like whatever,

678
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to even hear high goals. I'm not

679
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: going I'm not doing If I'm not doing the show,

680
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do by I already got paid. You know

681
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: what, I I wouldn't even got I don't get paid, you know,

682
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: step on the plane before you and I already got paid.

683
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not doing the show. Let the promoter

684
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: know that they don't want to let me in the country.

685
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: So I'm gone and so and so, while I'm in

686
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: on the plane waiting to take out to leave, they

687
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: come on the plane and say, hey, his his excellency

688
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: requite um apology sincerely apologizes and said that you won't

689
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: have not a problem walking through here. I said, I

690
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: told my bro Matt, I said, listen, I'm not getting

691
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: off this plane if I have if they tell me

692
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: one thing. Everybody around his fire and so they're like, bro, listen,

693
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: he said, you're walking straight through. So, Doug, the same

694
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: people to staff who was in there, who was telling

695
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: us you got twenty too much jury. When we walked

696
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: back in there, everybody had their heads down. They wouldn't

697
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: like when I listen, Doug. They were so it was

698
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: so weird. We we literally walked up to them doing

699
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: this to their faces, like you know you walk up

700
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: to a statue. We were literally doing this. It's something

701
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: that would like who is his excellency. It was like

702
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: his excellency there was like he's excellently told told him

703
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: that you must walk straight through and everybody with you.

704
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: They bet not tell y'all nothing. They didn't tell us nothing.

705
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm not finished up. So as I'm in my room,

706
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: I get another text that said it's excellency wants to

707
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: come to your room and apologize personally. Um, he'll be

708
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, it's all good. He comes up there,

709
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: I meet him whatever. He takes me to another room

710
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: in my own hotel room. It takes me away from

711
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: the crowd to talk to me personally. And he said,

712
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: so what happened? I said what she said. I couldn't

713
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: get in because of my jury. THO, he goes Bananis

714
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: He's what he called this guy he had with him.

715
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: I think it was his son. He was like, hey, come,

716
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: he bring a box and he was like, I bring

717
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: you gift more than twenty five I opened the box.

718
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Is a Frank Muller washed that watch calls over a

719
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. I know what's watching, but I know

720
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: to watch. So I was like, he was like, this

721
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: is my apologized didn't give for you and so she

722
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what you call about, I said. He said,

723
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: she will be punished. I said, no, it's okay, it's okay.

724
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: He grabbed my hand. Uh, he grabbed my hand. Said

725
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: she will be punished. I said, but listen, I'm not

726
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: finished dog, Because man, he said, I wish I could

727
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: come to two your show tonight, but thank you for

728
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: doing whatever you give me to watch. At the front door.

729
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: Before I closed my door, he looked at me, said, hm,

730
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: for your Lamborghini. I thought it was a general question, Doug.

731
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: I said that Beginni, everybody know that beginning. He was like,

732
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: favorite color, I said, black in front of your house

733
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: in three weeks. I'm so sorry for this. This will

734
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: never happen again. I need you back. I said, okay,

735
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: I understand. We think he's joking. So he got down.

736
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: We still listened. Were literally still standing in the door,

737
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: and having closed the door, he's we've been walked off.

738
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: He's about to make the left to go to the elevators.

739
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: I yelled out because I said, my girl, she's like wow.

740
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, he didn't even asked me what kind

741
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: of Lamborghini I wanted. That's how you know he just stunted.

742
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: So I said, little Maghini trump, little begin the truck, Doug.

743
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: That truck was in front of my house the month

744
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: with that. I'm not joking, bro, and so listen, I

745
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: had a problem leaving the country though the same little

746
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: staff try to give me another problem. So I got mad.

747
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: I left the watch there that day. Listen, I was

748
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: that I told you that you need me to go

749
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: pick it up for you. Let me know, I will

750
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: go to your man, I will go pick it up

751
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: for you. I have no patients. Listen, I left the

752
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: wats because I was like, I don't even want this man.

753
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: I got't like, I don't want to tell his excellency,

754
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: I ain't never coming back. Y'all. Keep y'all got me

755
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: going through this. When when the truck showed up, the

756
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: watch was on the passenger seat. Okay, now you gotta

757
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: tell me what that trucks like to drive, because there's

758
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: one parking garage at work. What weekend? Uh so? But

759
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: what is it like? Cause I always thought like, okay,

760
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: it kind of defeats the purpose of Lamborghini to get

761
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: a truck, But I do like the truck better than Lamborghini,

762
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: better than the Cooper right what you like to drive?

763
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: It's awesome, It's awesome. It's fast. It's very fast, very fast,

764
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: very very very that's how you've ever driven. I just

765
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: got a McLaren from my birthday. Color black. Yeah, like

766
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: when you pick out a McLaren, now it's for your birthday,

767
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: is somebody get it for you? You You got yourself, Mac,

768
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: He set up. Mac got it from me. It was

769
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: his gift to me for my birthday. McLaren. Um, but

770
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: did he know, like I mean, everybody knows your favorite

771
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: color black? Do you know like interior do you get

772
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: all that stuff picked out? Or how that work? Oh? Him?

773
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: You know I love it, you know, like actually black.

774
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: But he got it. He went a little. He went

775
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: a little more over. He went a little over. He

776
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: went black opal black. So when when the sun hits it,

777
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: it shines purple and normal, while is black and normal.

778
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: I guess see he went a little. That's my brother, Mac.

779
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: I love. That's amazing. That's a happy birthday. Obviously I

780
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: didn't bring you anything. Um that that's none of my

781
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: friends get me the Lamborghini's or or McLaren's for my birthday.

782
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: That just doesn't happen to me, like everybody they had

783
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: a birthday exactly. Everybody him up and told me when

784
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: he showed everybody, everybody him up and was like tell

785
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: him Mac, thank you. I won't be getting your gift

786
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: this year. That's funny. When I was when I was

787
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: at CBS is one of the one. It was like

788
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: a test I had every year to see if anybody

789
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: knew my birthday there right, like literally no, like no

790
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: one knew my birthday. And it was like a kind

791
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: of a running joke with like me and like one

792
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: of my friends like let's see this year if they

793
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: know it's my birthday. And I worked and like not

794
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: and and like a couple of days later, somebody would

795
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: hit me up like hey, it's like it was your birthday.

796
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: My bad. Like no one literally no I knew, like

797
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: this is not the place, this is not the place. Okay.

798
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: So so you go from twelve then you're dropping out

799
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: in your fourteen is platinum. Here's the biggest question how

800
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: and I I did the NBA Draft for ten years

801
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: and I would ask guys all the time, like okay,

802
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: because when you interview a guy right after his draft

803
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: NBA Draft, they're always the nicest, most humble kids ever. Right,

804
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: They thank God, they think their parents, they think they're you, coach.

805
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: They just they're so happy to be. There's always one

806
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: or two kids that are already kind of too far gone,

807
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: when for the most part they're unbelievable. And then and

808
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: then there's like a percentage of them that just you know,

809
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: they're feeling themselves after a while, and they lose track

810
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: of that person you have you're not. I mean, I look,

811
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 1: obviously you live a different lifestyle than you did growing

812
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: up in New Orleans, right, But I don't know if

813
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: you remember this. We actually met at ESPN. You popped

814
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: your head in. You're like you like gottlieve what's up?

815
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: And I love it. I was like the little Wayne,

816
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: just say what's up to me? Like, right, and when

817
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: I've seen you now you're the exact same person. How

818
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: do you How do you have stardom when you're twelve

819
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: and fourteen and you get these six figure checks to

820
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: your mom to where you're not freaking out but she

821
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: is right and not change as him being How do

822
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: you do that? Um? I credited I credited all that

823
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: to my mom, So, um, what I was gonna say I.

824
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Actually she didn't freak out when she got. What she

825
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: actually did was I gave her to check and being

826
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: her how I am, being how the reason why to

827
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: me she was like when she did ask me that question,

828
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: she was like, so this is the type of money.

829
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: When be getting I was like, yeah, I was like,

830
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: this is all. This is all. She's like, okay, I

831
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: don't want it. You could get She like take it back,

832
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: So I like know, So we literally had one of

833
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: those no you haven't, no, you haven't, No, you haven't notice.

834
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: So we had one of those. And so what she

835
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: went did and built her own house right around the corner.

836
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: From my sudden, get why she did that. And so,

837
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: like I said, just the humbleness of her is the

838
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: reason why I'm who I am and how I am.

839
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: And also also me starting off with so young at

840
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: twelve has a lot to do with it. I had

841
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: a lot to do it. I wasn't I wasn't even

842
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: old enough to to perceive the seriousness of the realness

843
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: of the money I was, you know, if the money

844
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: I was getting. So that's that that that also had

845
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: a lot to do with you know, with me not

846
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: caring about if it's the right amount. And you know,

847
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: if if I'm being if if if I'm being shorted,

848
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: and that type of thing. That also had a lot

849
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: to do it at me being young. And understand my

850
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: mom just not even expecting her fourteen year old to

851
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: be coming to be paying the bills, let alone burn houses.

852
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean. So that right there,

853
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that the age had a lot to

854
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: do with it. Yeah, but you have the child of doctors.

855
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: They don't mean like look how many childoo actors they

856
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: fall off the deep end. But you go to acting

857
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: as a different you know, you go to school and

858
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: stuff for that. So you got you get prepped and

859
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: stuff for that type of thing, and um um, this

860
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: is more of a talent. And you know, like my mom,

861
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: Remember my mom was like, no, my mom, you're gonna

862
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: go to school. I understand, you understand you can shoot

863
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: three points with your eyes closed, but you're gonna go.

864
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: You know, you're going to go to school. So I

865
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: have to show her that know that that that I

866
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: closed three point shot is going to get us, you know,

867
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: And so you you have to go with what you know.

868
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: And here here's the here's something I've always wondered when

869
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: you're when you're performing in front of people, how do

870
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: you decide whether or not you keep it with what

871
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: it sounds like on the album, or you just you

872
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: you freestyle and you do a little something different, like

873
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: how do you how do you decide is it always

874
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: like is it the same? No matter what it works,

875
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: it just different based upon the performance, what you feel

876
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: on that night. How do you decide what it is?

877
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: If it's my show, it's my show. That mean, I

878
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: control the way I'm gonna every way everything goes. I

879
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: never performed with words I mean, and so you're gonna

880
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: get you know, you're gonna get something. Something's gonna always

881
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: be something new, something new that night, because I never

882
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm always doing the show. I do this, I do

883
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: the song with just the beat. It's just there's just

884
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: the band. So it's not always it's live. Nothing better

885
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: than the live perform So that's the way I do

886
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: mine out. When you do TV shows and performances for

887
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: shows and things like the television shows and things like that,

888
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: they may require the words, you know, they may require

889
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: we want the words and that we want to we

890
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: want the chorus. And there are things like that, and

891
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: so for those performances, those more for me, those are

892
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: more like h I have to practice to make sho.

893
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: I got my words together because I worked so much

894
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: so the only words that be on my mind is

895
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: whatever I just finished recording the night before, you know,

896
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: so I have to go back and I have to

897
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: literally study my song and all that, and so I

898
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: like the challenge though, what what do you not do

899
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: that you want to do? Like? Because now you're powerful

900
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: enough that if you want to be on one of

901
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: the debate shows for sports, you can't. Right. If you

902
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: want to tour, you can. You want to drop albums,

903
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: you can. You want to chill and catch your money,

904
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: you can't. What do you not do enough that you

905
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: want to do more of it? Mm hmm. That's a

906
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: good question, and I'm I guess I don't want to

907
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: sound cliche and that said with a cliche and saying

908
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: like say, you know, be obviously be around my family

909
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: more of you, with my kids more because I do

910
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 1: that as much as I can as well. And that's

911
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: that's beautiful. I obviously, Doug, I'm blessed. There isn't anything

912
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: that I don't want it that there isn't anything out there,

913
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm very blessed. Okay, So so if you so, like

914
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: obviously you start touring doing shows and you like private,

915
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: what's your day of like, like you like you hoop

916
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: the day up? Do you work out? Are you like

917
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: I gotta get I gotta get into a mental kind

918
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: of mental place of zin. Like what are you the

919
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: day of a there's a big performance, So you're going

920
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: back home? Okay, you're performing Nola big show, you're the headliner.

921
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: What do you do that day? Um hmm. Everything is

922
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: always the same with me. I'm proceedure. Like dude, I'm

923
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make nothing, do nothing big, nothing out

924
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: the way. I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna

925
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: make my mom and try to cook something special. I'm

926
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: not none of that. So is I get to give

927
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: me the time I need to be on stage, Give

928
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: me the time I need to be at the venue,

929
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: give me let me get let me get some some

930
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: clothes and looks. Let me see what I want to wear.

931
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: That's the most important. But that's probably the hardest thing

932
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: for me, is you pick it out yourself. Uh shout

933
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: out to Marissa. That's been my status forever. Um. It's

934
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: me and Marissa. We go back and forth. But that's

935
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: the that's the funnest part of a show for me.

936
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: What am I gonna wear? That's the that's the coolest part.

937
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: Other than that. Nothing nothing not the way when you

938
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: said Nola's the only thing would be different about that

939
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: would be me making show. Everybody that's that's been hitting

940
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: me up, that's trying to make it to the show,

941
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: get a ticket, but free ticket. Favorite kicks to wear

942
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: when you're when you're performing, favorite Snakers. I don't have

943
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: a favorite snaker to the Marissa, it's gonna always have

944
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: a thousand options, and she has a back story, but

945
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: every option is kind of like those Peyton Manning uh

946
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: commercials when he got the backstories. Yeah, that's Mariska about

947
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: her her shoes. Yeah, so that's whatever she said goes

948
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: do they have to be certain like although she's uncomfortable,

949
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: like I can't. I don't care how much you like them.

950
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: They gotta be comfortable. Depends on how dope they are.

951
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: They could be a ticket point. They dope. I gotta

952
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: go out there and Rackham. It's funny because I had

953
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: black my son was younger. I got him some Jordan's

954
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: some of those thirteens, um, and I got him he

955
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: had some air Force ones and he didn't like him.

956
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: And so he was like the other day we when

957
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: I when I text you that when I was coaching

958
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: in a basketball term, He's like, Dad, do you see

959
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: those air Force ones like I hadams are nice? I

960
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I got you some Force ones. I

961
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: got s. Jordan's like you didn't like him? He's like, yeah,

962
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: I was. I was an idiot. I didn't know anyth

963
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: about shoes that those are great? Can you give me

964
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: some more? You know? No war Um? You know the

965
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: more him is like, I don't even like these shoes.

966
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: I was like, do you do? You know how pol

967
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: those shoes are. You know, here's the here's the thing

968
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: about about basketball sneakers. And you can appreciate this because

969
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: you know Kobe. So Kobe changed the game right when

970
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: he had the low tops, because forever hoop sneakers were

971
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: high or mid. So so this is my biggest takeaway

972
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: from my Kobe dinner. So he's telling me about all

973
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: the different things he's doing, and I was like, look, man,

974
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: here's what I want to know. Who convinced you to

975
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: wear low tops and in like his typical Kobe fashion.

976
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever broke this down for

977
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: he was like, well, I had somebody there's a study

978
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: out there that like, people don't actually get hurt because

979
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: of their high top. I was like, yeah, of course,

980
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: like if you have a bad ankle, or if you're

981
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: worried to wear an ankle brace, or you get taped.

982
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: He's like exactly, He's like, high tops don't prevent anybody.

983
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: He's like, actually, that was a myth perpetuated by really

984
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: by Nike, because when they were trying to sell high tops,

985
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: they were everybody's trying to sell the most stable ankle.

986
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: This is going back to the eighties when when it

987
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: was really competitive. With Adida's head was kind of a

988
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: wide bar. He went down the whole breakdown of the

989
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: whole shoe industry, which I happened to know a bunch

990
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: of just because of playing. But he was like, yeah,

991
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: that was that's just the myth of sneakers shoes trying

992
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: to sell you hi tops, trying to sell you basketball shoes.

993
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: So I came out in low tops. I was like, yeah,

994
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: then you twitter Achilles tendant. Then you have those amount

995
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: of those ones that come up to like your your calf.

996
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, those were terrible. I hate those shoes.

997
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: But like Kobe literally changed the game of sneakers, and

998
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: then you got, um, you have people like you like

999
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: you got the car, you got carries and on everybody

1000
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: putting Then what is about the sneakers? Basketball sneakers? Though

1001
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: there's a certain there's certain people, certain players whose shoes

1002
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: only a basketball shoe and people wouldn't rock them casually. Right,

1003
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of shoes like that. Uh Lebron shoe

1004
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: falls under that category a lot. Yes, Well that's because

1005
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: he's a gigantic man and so he needs a gigantic

1006
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: man shoes. Right, they do. They sell some low tops,

1007
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: but nobody rocks. Nobody goes out to the club or

1008
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: oh you've got some Lebron's on all those are nice?

1009
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: Like no, they are boats, Like that's the problem in

1010
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: being six two sixties, Like his shoes are just too big. Okay,

1011
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: So are you going like what what you're you are

1012
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: you gonna go hang like what is your post Laker

1013
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: championship plan? Just hanging at the house or you're like,

1014
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: let me know if there's a party. I'm on my way.

1015
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: What is the plan? I have a studio session. Do

1016
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: you have a studio session? Yeah? This session? Yeah? So

1017
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: do you only record at night? Um? I usually go ahead,

1018
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: I usually start the session. I gonna usually leave the

1019
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: house after dinner, so yeah, yeah, you believe that. But

1020
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna probably I use, I don't probably not

1021
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: gonna come back till next dinner time. So yeah, I'm

1022
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: in there forever, the whole night, the whole day. Doug, listen,

1023
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: do I just learned how to cut my sessions down

1024
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: from twenty eight hours. I had to learn how to

1025
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: cut him from twenty eight hours down to eighteen. I

1026
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: just learned this year how to finally chop them down

1027
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: to twelve hours. So if I go in there at

1028
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: ten pm, I make sure that i'd be aware of

1029
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: that when I see ten am, to tell myself, your

1030
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: engineer has been here twelve hours, because it ain't learned

1031
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: about me. I could be in that thousand hours. I

1032
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: just have to remind myself that your engineer has been here.

1033
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: And if I don't want him to get too tight

1034
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: and start messing up, because then I start getting mad

1035
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: and I have to remind myself. He's not a robot.

1036
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: You are you know how you're you got like this

1037
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: really cool kind of gravelly uh voice. Right, But you

1038
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: go back to when you're like twelve, like how did

1039
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: when did you when did you feel like you got

1040
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: to this kind of like perfect pitch to where your

1041
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: voice is now? Like that's your most recognizable because I've

1042
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: heard you on some other collapse recently and I can

1043
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: pick you out right away, like right away, and but

1044
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: I feel like your voice has got to this distinct

1045
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: that's been the same last ten year, five seven years

1046
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: or so. When has it got into the spot I'd

1047
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: say nineteen nineteen years probably locked into that that tone

1048
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: and didn't let it go. Yeah, and then you can

1049
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: just got you gotta be your But what's great is

1050
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: that's your actual speaking voice, right, like voice, Yeah, some

1051
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: actual voice. And um had to be told that by

1052
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: the late great miss Betty Right. Miss Betty Right was

1053
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: one of the main people that taught me that, you know,

1054
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: like the way you to like baby, the way you talk.

1055
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, singing, Like, don't you understand that

1056
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: singing is about being unique. It's not like you know

1057
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: the one the people that know how to go. She like,

1058
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: that's to say, those are the people that's actually trying.

1059
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: You're like, baby, you're like saying, it is about being

1060
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: you were born with a voice that everybody is not

1061
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: used to hearing, because you're like, and now you learn

1062
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: to say. Now it's on you to learn how to

1063
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: stretch it and make it sound listen to board here

1064
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: and beautiful to to everyone's ear. And she was like,

1065
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: you do that by just by just talking, like, so,

1066
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: now it's up to you to stretch it shout out

1067
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: them is better? Right? That's awesome, That's like, that's an

1068
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: amazing thing. Like and to be able to have also

1069
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: have confidence in your own voice and not have to

1070
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: not have to change it, not have to figure out

1071
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: because then then it's we have this a little bit

1072
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: in my business where some guys are in character right

1073
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: and they're in character on TV, and then they come

1074
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: off with TV and it's totally different, Like wait, completely different.

1075
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: And I do think that you know, once you can

1076
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: find kind of your authentic voice, authentic style, everything becomes

1077
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: a lot easier than you have to change who am

1078
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: I now? Which what am I doing now? Which one

1079
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: am I not that? Which one am I writing exactly. Yeah, alright, alright,

1080
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: last thing, you've been more than gracious, more than gracious

1081
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: with your time. Um, okay, so you mentioned you're going

1082
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: to studio session. All right, who's in there? Who? Who

1083
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: is allowed into your studio session? Like? Is it just

1084
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: I want me my engineer and my producer and that's it?

1085
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: Or what the produce? You went too far were to

1086
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: produce it? It's just me and my engineer. And so

1087
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: you're just are you now do you? Are you writing everything?

1088
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Or you just recording tracks and going back over it?

1089
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: A right, nothing. I've been started writing when I was

1090
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: about seventeen. I just go because it's from here. You

1091
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: gotta feel it. So how do you? But how do you? Like?

1092
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: You say? You say, you go twelve hours, then you

1093
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: come home, you come back, you pick it up right

1094
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: where you were. You have it still kind of in

1095
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: your brain as to what where you were and where

1096
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: you want to go with it. I have I have

1097
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: so much to do, you know. I always have a

1098
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: feature too to do at night, trust me. I mean,

1099
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: and I always have somebody song that that that required

1100
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: the verse of feature verse long, um, thank God is

1101
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: always that way. Um. So I'm always do that first,

1102
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: take care of the person's speech. I'm gonna do that first.

1103
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: But as as my stuff, I'm again I thank god.

1104
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: That is that I always say the same preader, I

1105
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: thank God that I'm doing what I love and get

1106
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: to get to do what I love, and I I love

1107
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: what I'm doing is still love to still love what

1108
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing. It's never you mentioned you mentioned the feature

1109
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: because okay, so well here, I hear you feature on

1110
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, right, you ever get one? You

1111
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: agree to it before hearing it, or do you go like,

1112
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: I gotta hear it first, Like, okay, I'll do something

1113
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: on this. You never have to hear first. I'm always

1114
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna agree to do the feature. I love to collaborate.

1115
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: I love to do it. I love it. What if

1116
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: you what if it's a terrible song, that's the challenge.

1117
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: I'd like to make it not a terrible song, because

1118
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm won't. That's amazing, But actually that you never like, okay, yeah,

1119
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: I'll do it with anybody. Like you've never said I

1120
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: ain't doing that one. Uh. If I have said that,

1121
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: I have, and it's probably because the song may have

1122
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: been saying, or that the song may have said something

1123
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: in it that I didn't agree with it. Okay, yeah,

1124
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: that's happened for plenty times. But but you love you

1125
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: love doing those features thing. What Yeah, I love it, man,

1126
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,959
Speaker 1: I love I love to see here myself with someone else.

1127
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm always a fan of music. So I'm always

1128
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: a fan of whoever giving me the song. And so

1129
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: I've probably first time doing something. Forget that, I'm really excited.

1130
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: All Right, you gotta sell somebody out for me, Okay,

1131
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: So so I'll give you a quick I'll give a

1132
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: quick story. I'm not gonna name the name, but it's

1133
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: a a friend I think you Actually I can tell

1134
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: you off air you might know who it is, but

1135
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: a friend of mine country artist, and I never forget

1136
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: he was. I was like, uh. And when he first

1137
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: got into got got big in it. He was an

1138
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: opening act for a lot of people, and I went

1139
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: to see him and I was like, man, you were

1140
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: kind of a a little off tonight, Like what happened? He's

1141
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: like Catwalk was closed. I was like, what are you

1142
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: talking about. He's like, well, I was doing my my

1143
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: sound check and I started like to go down to

1144
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: Catwalk and the guy from the main act band was like, hey,

1145
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: cat walks for our lead singer. Now, if I'll tell

1146
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: you the act was was Rascal Flats, Right, this guy

1147
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: wasn't with Rascal Flats. He was touring with the Rascal

1148
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Flats and he and he was like wait what he's

1149
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: like yeah, and he cat walks close to anybody else,

1150
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: so he was cool with everybody. But like, the cat

1151
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: walk being closed was just the weirdest. He didn't ask

1152
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: anything and he was just a couple of shows and

1153
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: that was it. Has there ever been a guy who

1154
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: or somebody who you perform with who were like man like?

1155
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: That was not as enjoyable as I thought it would

1156
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: be because we didn't know each other before him. M hmm.

1157
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I told you I allowed to perform,

1158
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: so I don't care if you told me to go

1159
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: out here and say say my ABC s, I'm gonna

1160
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: say about anybody you ever saying. I don't care who

1161
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: I gotta be up there with. We're gonna havelp the

1162
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: time about lives up there. Uh you know, essentially you

1163
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: mentioned the cash money guys. Cash money guys still very big, Okay,

1164
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: no limit guys not so big. So you guys were

1165
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: there before and you guys are after. Is there any

1166
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: rivalry or his rivalry not exists because they're really not

1167
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: existent now, know him, Pee and my dad Baby they

1168
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: very cool as hell. They're they're cool everybody. You know,

1169
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to make the most of every day now

1170
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: these days. Truthfully, yeah, no, and Peak a hoop a

1171
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: little bit, not as much as he thought he could,

1172
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: but he could definitely who speak the whole well well,

1173
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean but he was like preseason with he was

1174
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: like preseason with the Hornets, Like he's not that he

1175
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: went easy easy right, Like I, Hey, I got Hoop,

1176
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: I never got a preseason NBA game and peace playing

1177
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: preseason like whoa, whoa what Brian McKnight I think did

1178
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: that too. You're like, wait with the Raptors, I can

1179
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: see that. I don't know, I don't remember. I think

1180
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: Brian McKnight got a little run mcnightt I know you

1181
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: guys know for a fact. People, Hey, let's let's chop

1182
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: it up in person at some point in time. I

1183
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: know you got a studio session to get to congrats

1184
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: and the Lakers. It was amazing for you spend as

1185
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: much time with and thank you so much for joining me.

1186
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate that real thanks way. How much fun was that? Huh?

1187
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun. Make sure you tell your friends. Subscribe,

1188
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: download rate, listen, tell a friend, passed on, forwarded on

1189
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: social media, put it on Facebook, whatever you want. It's a.

1190
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: It's a. The guy's a great dude. I've met him

1191
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: three times in person. Every time walk away going like,

1192
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: that's a great guy. Are we actually friends now? I

1193
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: feel like the answer is yes. Once you share like

1194
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: an hour long zoom with somebody post championship, the answer

1195
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: is yes. I answers about anyway. My thanks to the

1196
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: Little Wayne, My thanks to our production crew for making

1197
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: this thing happen. And congratulations to the Lakers, to all

1198
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: of l A. We thought l A people were obnoxious

1199
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: way till the Dodgers and then if SC wins as well,

1200
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, everybody, just don't come to l A.

1201
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: People are gonna be obnoxious. In the meantime, Thank you

1202
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: so much for listening. Don't forget to listen to the

1203
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: radio show Daily three six eastern twelve to three Pacific

1204
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 1: on Fox Sport Tradeer The I Heart a do Apple.

1205
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: Wherever you download this, you can download that show in

1206
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: the meantime. Thanks so much, I'm Doug got the good.

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Speaker 1: This is all