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Speaker 1: Welcome to Truth Hounds, a production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm Anna and I've been unemployed for two years now,

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Speaker 1: so i really have nothing going on. And I'm Kyle,

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Speaker 1: and in middle school I received the ward most Enthusiastic

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Speaker 1: to Learn. So that makes me pretty special. And that

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Speaker 1: is what makes us the perfect investigative duo. We are

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Speaker 1: two friends who love each other very much, but what

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Speaker 1: we love even more is getting to the bottom of mysteries.

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Speaker 1: All mystery, sure, but small mysteries specifically. Trust me, No

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Speaker 1: mystery is too small. No, no, no, Why don't you

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Speaker 1: trust me when I tell you we are ready to

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Speaker 1: sniff around. We are the the truth Hounds. Previously on

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Speaker 1: Truth Hounds, my literal worth a here is to be canceled.

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Speaker 1: We would help Kyle overcome her fear of getting canceled.

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Speaker 1: I've written to think pieces about the men that did

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Speaker 1: the thing. You know, after the cancelation you do a

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Speaker 1: hard pit a to, all right, and this is the

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Speaker 1: place that cancel make human detritus. That's what I feel like.

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Speaker 1: If you were getting canceled, chances are you were on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: But what would Kyle tweet about? And then something happened? Hello, Hey, Kyle, Hi, yeah,

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Speaker 1: are you Are you busy? Um? A little bit? Why

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Speaker 1: what's up? Okay? Something just went down at the Oscars. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you about it. Okay, Well I'll

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Speaker 1: be right there. No, no, no, actually we shouldn't. Um,

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Speaker 1: we should just probably lay low. Um, do you want

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Speaker 1: to I'll come to you. Okay, Well i'll see you'll

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Speaker 1: be ready, yeah, yeah, I'll come yeah yeah yeah. Right

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Speaker 1: when you last left us, we were trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to cancel me. We knew it should probably

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Speaker 1: be a series of tweets about something topical. We had

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Speaker 1: a really hard time coming up with something because our

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Speaker 1: brains just didn't really work like that. Anna insisted that

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Speaker 1: we skipped the beach this week and meet immediately at

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Speaker 1: her house. There. She told me the news. Will Smith

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Speaker 1: takes a swing at Chris Rock on stage at the Oscar.

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Speaker 1: It all went down after Chris made crack and Will's wife,

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Speaker 1: Will Smith, striking him in the face. Overnight, Chris Rock

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Speaker 1: breaking his silence. In the wake of the Will Smith

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Speaker 1: Oscar slap. Episode seven, Kyle gets canceled, Part two. The

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Speaker 1: news about the Will Smith slap broke the internet and

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Speaker 1: people were really upset about it. On both sides, it

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Speaker 1: seemed to be a truly divisive issue. It seemed like

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Speaker 1: to have any opinion about it was putting you at

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Speaker 1: risk of upsetting someone. And that's when we had an idea.

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Speaker 1: I would have a strong opinion about the slap, make

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Speaker 1: it known in tweet form, and that would for sure

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Speaker 1: get me canceled. So we finally had a plan. We

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Speaker 1: would get Kyle to fire off a few tweets about

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Speaker 1: the slab and that would for sure get her canceled.

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Speaker 1: But what kinds of things would she tweet? The truth was,

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Speaker 1: neither Kyle nor I were particularly skilled a topical humor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you needed a joke about a cute

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Speaker 1: pig getting kidnapped by a friendly family of crows, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll have a packet written for you called murder. She

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Speaker 1: point by end of the day. But this was not

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Speaker 1: that we needed her to be thinking quick, mean and

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Speaker 1: current like a real stand up comic. Have you ever

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Speaker 1: seen those guys? Something will happen that day, and no lie,

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Speaker 1: by the time they hit the stage later that night,

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Speaker 1: they'll have a two to three minutes to say about it.

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Speaker 1: Damn they were good, these guys. I honestly didn't think

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Speaker 1: that I could do that. But maybe we could find someone,

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Speaker 1: you know, a real stand up comic, and maybe they

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Speaker 1: could help, you know, give me some pointers, or they

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Speaker 1: could write the jokes, or maybe they could do the tweeting,

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Speaker 1: or hey, maybe they could even use their own account

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Speaker 1: and tweet and they're the one that gets canceled. Kyle,

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Speaker 1: you are getting canceled. You're not getting out of this,

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Speaker 1: but you know what you are right? Maybe we should

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Speaker 1: hire someone to write the tweets? Fine, but Anna, can

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Speaker 1: I say something? Of course? What is it? Um? I

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Speaker 1: really don't want to do this, And onward we marched,

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Speaker 1: are you even listening to me? This was a great

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Speaker 1: starting point. The updated plan. We would find a real

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Speaker 1: stand up comedian who does topical material and hire them

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Speaker 1: to write us some tweets about the slap so that

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Speaker 1: Kyle would in turn get canceled. I spent the week

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Speaker 1: researching the local comedy scene. Who was performing where, who

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Speaker 1: And I landed upon someone who would be perfect. I

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't miss a thing. M And when that said,

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Speaker 1: are you ready to get the shot? Put your heads

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Speaker 1: together for your motherfucking horse now homed, motherfucking Windberg in

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Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, thank you. My grandma died. She did.

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Speaker 1: His name was a Hommed Winberg. And he was awesome,

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Speaker 1: and not that it was about this. And he was gorgeous,

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Speaker 1: fiery red hair, a shade of red that was so

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Speaker 1: bright that it could light up any night. Like if

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Speaker 1: you were on a quest where you had to travel

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Speaker 1: by foot by night, you could put him and to

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Speaker 1: the front of the quest. He would instantly provide light

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the pack following suit. But if

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Speaker 1: you caught wind of the enemy approaching, you would need

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Speaker 1: to immediately tackle him to the ground and cover him

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Speaker 1: with sheets of burlap lest the enemy see his light

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Speaker 1: and know your location. Worth beginning to show, my grandma

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Speaker 1: did die this year. It wasn't COVID. It wasn't COVID,

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Speaker 1: thank god, it was. It was a vaccine. This guy

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Speaker 1: was good. As soon as he was done, we left

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Speaker 1: our front row seats and rushed backstage to meet him. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: that was really good. Thanks, I'm Hannah, nice to meet you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you were great. And we actually we're wondering, Um, we're

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Speaker 1: looking for a very kind of specific type of comic

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Speaker 1: who is great at crafting jokes. We're kind of like

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Speaker 1: a job. I think we're looking for maybe like seven

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Speaker 1: tweets seven seven tweets to get canceled yet okay, and

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Speaker 1: like they can be offensive or like should be okay,

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Speaker 1: everything can maybe be good. I know, you tell us,

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Speaker 1: because that seems only the comedy works is that should

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Speaker 1: be about some type of card that if we're talking

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Speaker 1: about you want me to write seven tweets about the

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Speaker 1: Chris Rock thing for you for free? Yeah? Yeah. He

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Speaker 1: seemed to be on board, but before putting the keys

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Speaker 1: for us. Will this get back to me in any way? Like,

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Speaker 1: are you gonna credit me for the offensive? No? Not

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Speaker 1: at home. We could see it in his eyes, Ahamed,

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Speaker 1: just like the rest of us, was scared of getting canceled.

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Speaker 1: We assured him the only person here who would be

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Speaker 1: getting canceled it was going to be Kyle Um Hannah

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Speaker 1: and onward we marched. A couple of days went by

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Speaker 1: before a Hammed delivered the goods, well some of the goods. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: the process wasn't as seamless as one would hope. I

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Speaker 1: much prodding via text, he finally started slowly texting as

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Speaker 1: the tweets one at a time, at really weird times too.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I would be a target and I would get

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Speaker 1: one of his text and be like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I hope nobody saw that anyway. As

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Speaker 1: the text slowly started coming in, it was my job

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Speaker 1: to start tweeting from my account, and I got to

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Speaker 1: be honest, it was hard. Listen for yourself. I am

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Speaker 1: about to uh tweet out my first tweet. Um that

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Speaker 1: I believe my last tweet was in like two thousand seventeen,

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Speaker 1: so he yeah, and I'm also just scared about getting canceled.

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Speaker 1: So there's that. But before I could even get that

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Speaker 1: even know how to send out this tweet. So I've

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Speaker 1: I might have to call Hannah. Okay, hello him. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: I know you think I'm probably going to be joking

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Speaker 1: right now, but I literally can't figure out how to tweak. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I just you know what. I'm so stutie. I see it.

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Speaker 1: Finally it's the big BLUs signac. Oh gosh, you're adding

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Speaker 1: looking and go adding something to the world. That's so

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Speaker 1: fun the world is. I guess we can tell me

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Speaker 1: the tweet. Yeah, hold on, let me just okay, So

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Speaker 1: here's the tweet. I said. I'm right, Will Smith could

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Speaker 1: smack me. I wouldn't mind winky phase hashtag the smack,

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Speaker 1: which is actually a hashtag that exists. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: the first one. They're not the first one. No, I

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Speaker 1: think there's no doubt in my mind that you're not

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Speaker 1: the free person to tweet about the smack. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: think you're adding to a very sizable pool of discourse. Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: you are kind of cornering a pretty interesting um take

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Speaker 1: you know, no offense, but your signature wasn't really working. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I just tweeted it. God, keep in mind this is

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you, and it's okay. I know

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Speaker 1: things are getting really good, but we have to take

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Speaker 1: Back to it. Before I got off the phone with Anna,

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Speaker 1: she dropped one last bomb on me. I want you

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Speaker 1: to know that I might not like it, oh God,

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Speaker 1: just don't be offended when I don't like it. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna get canceled. Anna was talking about

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Speaker 1: not clicking like on my tweet. We all know that

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Speaker 1: endorsement to you. They're saying I'm with her. So this

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Speaker 1: distancing herself from me. I mean, this person was my rock.

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Speaker 1: She wished me luck and hung up. Okay, well, good luck, okay.

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Speaker 1: By my initial feeling was that this wasn't a good idea,

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Speaker 1: and my initial feeling was starting to feel right after

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Speaker 1: I literally feel like I'm having an anxiety attack. Um

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Speaker 1: tweeting out that tweet. I just it's just crazy because

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Speaker 1: I haven't tweeted since two thousand four. Yeah, you really

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Speaker 1: are spiraling because you're lying. I corrected myself are two

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Speaker 1: out of the woodwork and I'm saying, um, my piece

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Speaker 1: about the Will Smith slap. I just I god, I wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Despite my feelings of anxiety,

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Speaker 1: in Hollywood, got scared dot dot dot, I am legend.

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Speaker 1: Yes you are, sir for smacking Chris Rock And finally

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Speaker 1: the last tweet more like the pursuit of slappiness. So

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Speaker 1: the tweets had been tweeted, and nightfall came. You know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of cancelations actually happen overnight. The person wakes

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Speaker 1: up in the morning. Their phone is set ablaze with notifications,

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Speaker 1: family members demanding answers, complete strangers threatening your life. Wait,

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Speaker 1: have been there for her. But again, other than that,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know her. I'm happy to say I'm

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Speaker 1: working on tons of my own stuff and look out

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Speaker 1: for me because here I come solo style as I

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Speaker 1: have always been. So nothing new there, peace and love,

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Speaker 1: just anna. Okay, so my apology is live, and I

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Speaker 1: guess I'm just going to leave your house. Just where

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Speaker 1: are you gonna go? I've been canceled, so I'm gonna leave.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think you should stay because I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can go anywhere. I'm gonna go to my

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Speaker 1: think he could be there right now. I think you

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Speaker 1: should let it cool off. Kyle was kind of been consolable,

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Speaker 1: kind of inconsolable. My whole life was ruined. Think about it.

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Speaker 1: People out there in the Twitter verse were actually thinking

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Speaker 1: that I Kyle was obsessed with the will Smith slap.

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Speaker 1: They were sitting at home thinking, Ah, Kyle really thinks

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Speaker 1: that the pursuit of slappiness is a funny joke. She

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Speaker 1: really can't let this thing go. Huh. Remember I hadn't

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Speaker 1: tweeted since two thousand and seventeen. People were thinking I

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Speaker 1: climbed out of my hole to talk about will Smith

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Speaker 1: weeks later after the actual event. Nothing could have prepared

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Speaker 1: me for being canceled, for being thirsty. I should have

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Speaker 1: seen it coming. I shouldn't have let those final tweets

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Speaker 1: get to my head. I honestly felt like a loser.

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Speaker 1: You guys, the listeners, I feel like a loser. Are

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Speaker 1: you guys turning your backs on me? As I speak? Figures?

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Speaker 1: This was definitely one of those investigations where it wasn't

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Speaker 1: about the destination at all. It was entirely about the journey,

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Speaker 1: because the fact of the matter was that this was

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Speaker 1: a journey. Sure, this was the death of Kyle's fear

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Speaker 1: of getting canceled. But remember, death is not the end.

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Speaker 1: Death is just the opportunity for rebirth. Wait, isn't that

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Speaker 1: exactly what Megan had said? A lot of people are

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Speaker 1: standing death, but I'm going to tell you death is

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Speaker 1: not yet. Death is just the opportunity of full rebirth. Wow,

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Speaker 1: now it was all starting to make sense. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's making sense. I feel horrible, Kyle, my friend.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is this was just a stepping stone

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Speaker 1: to something bigger. Don't you get it. We still have

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Speaker 1: a big fear to conquer beat macromy We feared him,

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Speaker 1: and yet we couldn't look away. We still need to

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Speaker 1: figure out why. So this is just one door in

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Speaker 1: f Okay, but why did it have to involve me

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Speaker 1: getting canceled? Because, Kyle, when you're not bound down by fear,

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Speaker 1: you're weightless enough to fly. Ye. Hey, if you like

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