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Speaker 1: If you ever have open heart surgery, it's important for

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Speaker 2: That's a good point, Jeff. You know, you put a

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Speaker 1: If you have to get a bunch on there so

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Speaker 1: in the operating room. It's also important for our everyday lives.

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Speaker 1: And that's why we created this segment called Closure Calls. Normally,

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Speaker 2: Please tell me they're not a surgeon, please doctor.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Lindsey, So Lindsay, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hi guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Lindsay. You don't work in the medical field, do you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just not as much of an emergency

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Speaker 3: You said, Yeah, one of my best friends, Julia. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we've been close for many, many, many years. We've even

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Speaker 2: That's so fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but last month, it just feels like everything kind

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Speaker 3: I don't know why everything's like changed completely.

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Speaker 5: Okay, how you can feel it?

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Speaker 2: You guys aren't still living together, are you?

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, that was like many years ago. But again,

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Speaker 5: Okay, but yeah, you're top tier friendship.

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Speaker 1: But how is this? Yeah, how's it changed in the

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 3: I feel like she stops including me, like missing a brunch,

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Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like it's not even just her, Like

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Speaker 2: Not your friends.

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Speaker 1: Is it all of your friends that have cut you out?

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Speaker 3: So they're confused to they don't understand why this is happening.

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Speaker 3: And then when they ask her, she's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: You don't bring your personal problems are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you both single? Like it's your relationship statuses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're single, Like I'm seeing someone kind of but

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Speaker 3: I am not invited to this birthday.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because like you have that

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Speaker 5: She's so uncomfortable. She just has to distance herself and

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Speaker 1: So you said the birthday was the big indicator that

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Speaker 3: No, it's happened. Yeah. When she texted me, she was like,

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Speaker 1: Maybe as her best friend, you should have been throwing

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Speaker 3: So I even texted her happy birthday, seeing maybe if

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Speaker 5: I'm to get hold of you.

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Speaker 2: You get your contacts with your new phone number. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know how everything about women. I apologize.

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Speaker 2: Dude, and she wrote back to us but not to her.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, it's just because we're so trustworthy. I don't

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Speaker 3: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, we're in the middle of a closure call

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Speaker 1: Man, it's been really weird. It started with just not

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Speaker 2: And you know something that's.

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Speaker 1: The ultimate betrayal, and that was last week. The party

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Speaker 4: If you're usually the one that plans your bff's birthday party,

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Speaker 1: So she's tried texting Julia on her own with no

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Speaker 2: I am nervous your friendship.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is more important than any like romantic

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling nervous?

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Speaker 3: I guess, but I want information. I want to know.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get right into it. Question number one that

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Speaker 1: So Julia wrote back. She said, no, it was not

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Speaker 1: Brook seems to be more invested in this friendship than

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Speaker 3: The fourth question, that's super vague. What does that even mean?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: That makes sense, I mean, because when you're talking to

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Speaker 3: What if she even talk Zach and I have been

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're not like super on the open, but

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Speaker 3: Does she think that he doesn't even like her? Like

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Speaker 2: But she obviously likes him.

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Speaker 3: Unless she is lying to me.

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Speaker 2: You guys don't tell each other that you hooked up

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Speaker 1: No, I would even pass them along to them.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my friends like snapchow, they're gonna say, guess whose

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense with a shared hookup, we know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, like your next girl.

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Speaker 1: Sorry again, female relationships. I don't quite grasp it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she has been talking to me for at

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Speaker 1: Like her like okay, wait, yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 1: which was I have a birthday present to give you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we can meet up one on one and get

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Speaker 1: it used to be before we knew the last thing. Lindsey,

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Speaker 3: I mean there might be more than just a present now,

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Speaker 3: but yes, I want to meet up.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Sandwich for sandwich?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: I mean, now, I guess I have some questions for her.

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm not the only one now that's in

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Speaker 3: the dark.

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Speaker 2: I felt, so now you're getting mad.

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Speaker 5: Okay, listen, wait to give her the present.

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Speaker 1: Zach is not.

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Speaker 2: Worth any of this drama. I mean, I don't even

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm kind of enjoying the drama, so let's keep

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Speaker 1: reading the answers to the questions. She wrote. Back to

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Speaker 1: your invitation to meet up for the birthday present, she said, well,

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Speaker 1: you already gave me the present I needed, which was

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Speaker 1: not being at my party. She says, that gave me

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Speaker 1: the chance for Zach and I to finally get together.

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Speaker 1: This smiley face.

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Speaker 3: Is you're trying to imply that they hooked up.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was an implication there. I think

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Speaker 2: that that's what happened. She put a smiley face.

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Speaker 5: That's evil.

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Speaker 1: So this is bad.

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Speaker 2: Smiley face.

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Speaker 3: Dude, there's no way they haven't. Okay, if that's the case,

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Speaker 3: then we're both hooking up. But this is literally, honestly,

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Speaker 2: Was she snaky before this?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: No, are you sure, you've never liked the same guy,

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Speaker 3: nothing like that. No, I would never expect this of her,

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Speaker 5: Is causing a complete bit. It's a friend.

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Speaker 4: It's a friend, for sure, and she's rubbing it in

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Speaker 5: She's rubbing it in Lindsay's face like that until they

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Speaker 2: I'm mad.

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Speaker 5: I am too. I'm sad for that.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy with the drama that's happening, but

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Speaker 1: sad for you, Lindsay, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: What's the last question we asked?

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Speaker 1: So we got to get a question.

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Speaker 3: You don't even ask it. Honestly, I don't even want

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Speaker 2: I need to know the rule.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the rule is I have to read all the questions, Lindsay.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so question number four. And remember this is

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Speaker 1: from you. You said you mean so much to me.

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Speaker 1: Our friendship is everything I know in my heart. We

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Speaker 4: Mind is a great idea, Weddy. They're going to burry

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Speaker 4: the same dude that.

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Speaker 1: Would make the wedding costs even easier.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I already take all that back. So well,

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Speaker 3: here's what I'm already taking all that back. Okay, oh

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Speaker 3: my god.

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Speaker 1: Well she already responded to it. You can't take it back,

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Speaker 1: because Julia wrote, I understand this is awkward, but if

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Speaker 1: you're not too bitter about this situation with Zach choosing

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Speaker 1: me over you, the absolutely, one hundred percent we can

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Speaker 1: move past this, and Zach and I can even wing

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Speaker 1: man for you to help you find your guy. That

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Speaker 1: is kind of a nice offer, though at the end,

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Speaker 1: not a nice offer.

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Speaker 2: Lizzy, did you just get dumped by Zach in the

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Speaker 2: same time?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I literally was with Zach last night, Journey, Are

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Speaker 3: you okay? Obviously I'm not okay. I guess I need

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Speaker 3: to go talk to honestly, both of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're probably hanging out in the same place right now.

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Speaker 4: Okay, she didn't tell any of the other girlfriends in

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Speaker 4: your guys circle because they would hate her for this shady.

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Speaker 2: At least you're not the bad guy.

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Speaker 5: But now there's like a ginormous hole.

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Speaker 2: Wait, that is closure. You are done with this woman.

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Speaker 1: So there's no chance that you and Zach are going

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Speaker 1: to like continue this together.

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Speaker 3: Unless she's lying about everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is messy.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, would you do any of this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we set out to try and find out the

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Speaker 1: reason that Julia was secretly cutting you out of all

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Speaker 1: the life events. It's because she sucks And that's a

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Speaker 1: better summary than one of So.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could be Alexis and I his best friend.

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Speaker 4: If you need a new best you could.

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Speaker 2: Just mind it'll be better.

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Speaker 1: Seven boyfriends that you could choose from. It's Brook and

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.