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Speaker 1: to what the Jets gave him, which I honestly think

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Speaker 1: would have been insane. It's like, wait, you're willing to

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Speaker 1: give him even a number near that couple of years

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars in guarantee thirty and you wouldn't and

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Speaker 1: you benched him for Russell Wilson. How's that possible? And

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Speaker 1: you refused as Russell Wilson started not playing well and

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Speaker 1: it got cold and he looked like a shell of himself.

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Speaker 1: You refuse to start Fields like that would have showed

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Speaker 1: you that you essentially threw the last season. So I

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Speaker 1: think both these franchises. I was pretty aggressive on how

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Speaker 1: I was out on the Steelers last year, and I

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Speaker 1: looked dumb when they started ten and three, and then

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Speaker 1: everything changed. They started playing good teams and I look

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Speaker 1: smart again. And listen, I've come to grips with I'm

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Speaker 1: no longer saying that Mike Tomlin and the Steeler should

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Speaker 1: get divorce. I don't believe it's gonna happen. I believe

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Speaker 1: he will be there forever, no matter how many eight

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Speaker 1: to nine to ten wins seasons he has and how

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Speaker 1: many times he gets his ass kicked in the first round. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm done, that's it's a take, that's a waste of

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Speaker 1: my energy. I'm also done ever thinking the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: gonna suck. They're clearly not. But like their version of

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Speaker 1: suck is what we are witnessing right now. The team

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Speaker 1: that just has the same thing every single year. And

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Speaker 1: clearly the Chiefs are this dynasty team, five super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: six years, three championships. But that next tier of team

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Speaker 1: that cannot beat the Chiefs kicks your ass, the Bills

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens. So it's like the Chiefs are in

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Speaker 1: their own category, and then that next tier of the

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Speaker 1: Bills Ravens have nothing in common with you. They own you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: occasionally you could beat the Ravens and Lamar in a

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Speaker 1: regular season game. No one cares, right, I mean, guys

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Speaker 1: like Daron Fox score fifty in random regular season games.

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Speaker 1: It does not matter in the landscape of the league

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Speaker 1: and the important games. So it's like, I just think

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are now in the same spot over and over,

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Speaker 1: over and over. They can add Rogers, they can bring

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Speaker 1: back Russell, they can draft Jackson Dart, they could do whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anything's gonna change. And it sucks if

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Speaker 1: you're a Steeler fan because it's like, we're never gonna

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Speaker 1: bought him out, so we never will have a chance

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Speaker 1: that the Jayden Daniels or the you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence any good, but like that type player

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Speaker 1: will always just, you know, somehow be nine to ten wins,

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Speaker 1: be one and done in the playoffs, not host a

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Speaker 1: playoff game, have a stretch in the regular season. We're like,

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Speaker 1: are we pretty good? And it's like, no, you're actually not.

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Speaker 1: So it's just the same, all same old, And now

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Speaker 1: now you're waiting on a forty one year old who's

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Speaker 1: twing with your emotions. That's what it's come to. You're

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Speaker 1: waiting on a forty one year old that we've all

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Speaker 1: acknowledged isn't that good anymore? Like he's not worthy of

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Speaker 1: like we should be but we're desperate. What else are

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Speaker 1: we supposed to do? And the answer is, you're screwed. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll get out of here on this. Some potential rule changes. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: one of the headliners over the last couple of months

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Speaker 1: has been the Packers want to ban the tush push.

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Speaker 1: My overall take is I don't care if they ban it.

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Speaker 1: I don't. It will not bother me. If they let

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Speaker 1: them continue to do that will not bother me either,

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Speaker 1: because anyone can do the toush push. The only team

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Speaker 1: that has the guy who is a little shorter that

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Speaker 1: can squat six hundred plus pounds is them. Because I

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Speaker 1: saw Josh Allen, who I thought is one of the stronger,

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Speaker 1: bigger quarterbacks I've ever seen, try to run quarterback sneaks

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Speaker 1: and he couldn't gain a half yard. So I just

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Speaker 1: don't care. Ban it? Cool, you don't ban it, okay,

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Speaker 1: don't doesn't bother me. But I do think there are

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Speaker 1: some pretty important potential rule changes. I have been saying

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Speaker 1: forever as a fan of football, someone the gambles on football,

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Speaker 1: as someone who just watches a ton of football, the

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Speaker 1: amount of games in tight. Most NFL games are close.

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Speaker 1: I think eighty percent of games are within one score

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, So giving teams automatic first downs

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Speaker 1: on defensive holding is the most I think one of

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Speaker 1: the craziest things in the NFL rule book. How often

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Speaker 1: do you watch a third and ten in the second

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Speaker 1: half tie game down three up three and a team

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Speaker 1: it's third and nine and some questionable defensive holding or

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Speaker 1: illegal contact, automatic first down. It's fucking bullshit. I would

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Speaker 1: even go a step farther pass interference. We should go

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Speaker 1: college fifteen yard penalty, but that's a different discussion. No problem.

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Speaker 1: If it's third and three, defensive holding first down, but

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Speaker 1: automatic first down. We have seen so often second and long,

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Speaker 1: third and long. It'd be like third and fifteen and

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Speaker 1: there'd be a defensive holding automatic first down, especially when

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Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't even throw that guy's way and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even come close to being completed. So the Detroit Lions,

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, Brad Holmes and the Ford family F one

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Speaker 1: fifty number one selling truck in America, no free ads,

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Speaker 1: but it's truth. They want that gune, They want that

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Speaker 1: changed and just make it a spot foul. So if

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Speaker 1: it's third and nine and it happens at three yards. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's now third and six. I'm all for it. I

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Speaker 1: am one hundred percent down because the automatic first down

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Speaker 1: on that play has has an outweighed impact on the

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Speaker 1: outcomes of way too many games. This is not college

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Speaker 1: football where half the games during the fall are fifteen

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Speaker 1: to twenty thirty points spreads. That's not the case. All

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Speaker 1: these games are close, or the majority of them are,

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Speaker 1: and so many times coming down the home stretch, and

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Speaker 1: it probably impacts more games earlier in the game two.

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Speaker 1: But it's like a tigh game, six minutes left and

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Speaker 1: it would have been a punt, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you get a first down. It leads to

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Speaker 1: a field goal, and that's the difference in a game.

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Speaker 1: So props to the Lions on that one. They also,

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Speaker 1: I guess a lot of teams are behind the reseting

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Speaker 1: of the playoff teams. Essentially no longer the first four

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Speaker 1: seeds one through four are the four division winners, because

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Speaker 1: we have constantly seen you know, nine ten win teams

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Speaker 1: usually be the fourth, sometimes even the third seed. And

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Speaker 1: yet we've had wildcard teams win twelve, thirteen, fourteen games

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Speaker 1: and have to go on the road in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: so they are discussing making Basically, the top seven seeds

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs are just buy record. And now if

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Speaker 1: you win the division, you do get a playoff spot,

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Speaker 1: So four of the seven spots are still going to

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Speaker 1: go to the division winner, which I'm all for, but

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Speaker 1: you don't automatic I actually get a home game. Look

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Speaker 1: at the Vikings now, because of the fires, they ended

548
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: up playing in Arizona, but the Vikings had to go

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00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: on the road. The Vikings were sixty minutes away from

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Speaker 1: being the number one overall set. Instead they lose, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're playing a Monday night game

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Speaker 1: in Glendale, Arizona, which still kind of worked out to

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Speaker 1: be a home game for them because of how many

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Speaker 1: people from the Minnesota general area. You know, I would

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00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: say live, you know in Arizona, but that's beside the point.

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Speaker 1: They have one of the best home field advantages in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So I'm totally for this. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have hit me up over the years

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00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: asking if they should do A team can pick whoever

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Speaker 1: they want to play. I think that's fun to talk

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Speaker 1: about and it's a cool discussion. It will never happen

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Speaker 1: and all thirty two teams, the good and the bad

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Speaker 1: teams would not want that, so totally for that. The

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Speaker 1: other thing is, I think the Steelers put through this

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Speaker 1: rule out which I don't hate. Right now, during the

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Speaker 1: tampering period, you are, based on the letter of the law,

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Speaker 1: not allowed to talk to the player. So if I'm

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and I want Milton Williams, I

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Speaker 1: can talk to his agent. But if I'm Vrabel or

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Speaker 1: my defensive coordinator, I can't get on the horn with Milton.

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Speaker 1: I have to wait till the official start of the

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Speaker 1: league year to talk to him. They want to make

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Speaker 1: the tampering period allow you to talk to a player,

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Speaker 1: So if I'm recruiting Player X as a free agent,

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Speaker 1: I basically can't talk to him where I can avoid that.

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Speaker 1: Remember Saquan said something about how he talked to him

577
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Speaker 1: last year and then he had to push back and

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Speaker 1: it turns out, you know, it's like, I think the

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00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: fix is pretty simple. You are allowed. You're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to announce anything. But to me, the tampering period should

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Speaker 1: start at the NFL combine and then the league year.

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Speaker 1: Whenever that tampering period quote unquote starts should be that

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Speaker 1: Monday in the league year, and then for maybe even

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00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: three days, so it could be a Sunday you're allowed

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Speaker 1: to negotiate with the player and the agent. Because it

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Speaker 1: is very you have to be extremely naive to think

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Speaker 1: that these discussions aren't happening very very frequently at the Combine.

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Speaker 1: So we all know the Combine is the unofficial start

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Speaker 1: to legal tampering. Yet you can't start quote unquote legal

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00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: tampering till like a week later on Monday. It's just

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Speaker 1: it's very disingenuous, and it's just not the way the

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Speaker 1: real world works. So to me, I would mess with

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Speaker 1: the Combine and have that as some sort of legal

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00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: tampering and try to ideally give it a week where

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Speaker 1: you start announcing the deals. But even right now, once

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00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: the legal tampering period begins, all these deals start breaking.

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Speaker 1: You think we just come to an agreement sixty million

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Speaker 1: dollars Monday at noon. Of course not. We've been talking

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00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: for a week. So I think there's something to be

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Speaker 1: manipulated with the legal tampering, with the discussions, and just

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Speaker 1: make it all legal so we don't even have to

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Speaker 1: pretend anymore. But I'm all for the Lions and the

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Speaker 1: defensive holding in illegal contact not resulting in an automatic

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Speaker 1: first down and not against either. The reseting just based

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Speaker 1: on records, even though the four division winners get an

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Speaker 1: auto spot. The volume