WEBVTT - Relax and Win from Legacy of Speed

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello Revisionist history listeners. I'm so excited to bring

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<v Speaker 2>you Season seven in just two short weeks. Until then,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to share another podcast with you that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been working on. It's a new show called Legacy of Speed.

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<v Speaker 2>As any loyal revisionist history listener knows, I'm totally crazy

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<v Speaker 2>about running. So when Tracksmith approached Pushkin to make a

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<v Speaker 2>show about running in sports activism, I was all in.

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<v Speaker 2>Legacy of Speed is a series about the transformation of

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<v Speaker 2>a track program at San Jose State in the nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>What started out as just a second tier state college

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<v Speaker 2>that no one outside of northern California had even heard of,

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<v Speaker 2>quickly became known as the home to Speed City. Under

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<v Speaker 2>the guidance of one coach and his unconventional techniques, San

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<v Speaker 2>Jose launched the careers of the fastest sprinters of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I traced the journey of those sprinters who went on

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<v Speaker 2>to make an iconic protest at the nineteen sixty eight

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<v Speaker 2>Summer Olympics. The show features conversations with Olympic athletes, sports journalists,

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<v Speaker 2>performance coaches, and documentarians. You'll hear from some of the

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<v Speaker 2>best runners of all time. Tommy Smith, John Carlos, Lee Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a story about athletes who dare to take a

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<v Speaker 2>stand and the mentors who made them fast and brave

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<v Speaker 2>enough to pave the way for the sports activism we

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<v Speaker 2>see today. Here's a preview. You can follow the story

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<v Speaker 2>by searching for Legacy of Speed wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen sixty eight, the Summer Olympic Games are in Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>City for the first time. The Games are truly a

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<v Speaker 2>television spectacle, twice as many hours of coverage with new

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<v Speaker 2>technology like instant replay, and it's being broadcast live around

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<v Speaker 2>the world in color. Everyone is watching.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States leads the Olympics and Metal Awards, and

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<v Speaker 3>is just about supreme in the sprint races thanks to

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<v Speaker 3>men like Tommy Smith and John Carlos.

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Smith John Carlos, two of the greatest sprinters of

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<v Speaker 2>all time, captured in one of the most iconic images

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<v Speaker 2>of the twentieth century, two black men standing on a platform,

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<v Speaker 2>each with a fist in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday they stood on the victory platform with bowed heads,

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<v Speaker 3>wearing black socks and gloves and a racial protest.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing that photo as a kid growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen seventies, a kid who was obsessed with sports,

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<v Speaker 2>And even though I was much too young to understand

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<v Speaker 2>anything about the context for it, I understood that it

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<v Speaker 2>was an act of transgression. Over the next five episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you the story behind that transgression,

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<v Speaker 2>how those two men ended up on the victory stand,

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<v Speaker 2>their struggles and triumphs, because in that moment half a

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<v Speaker 2>century ago, the way we think about sports and social

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<v Speaker 2>protest shifted forever in ways that we are still wrestling

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<v Speaker 2>with today. Two extraordinary figures made that iconic moment possible.

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<v Speaker 2>One Bud Winter, an eccentric tactician who reinvented what it

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be a coach. The other Harry Edwards, a

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<v Speaker 2>fiery professor and black power activist who dared to challenge

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<v Speaker 2>that most sacred of American institutions. And here's the remarkable thing.

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<v Speaker 2>All four of those men, those two runners, the professor

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<v Speaker 2>and the coach, came from the same place, a second

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<v Speaker 2>tier state college that no one outside of northern California

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<v Speaker 2>had ever heard of, San Jose State, or as it

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<v Speaker 2>was known back then, Speeds City. I'm Malcolm Gladwell. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Legacy of Speed, a story about athletes who dared

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<v Speaker 2>to take a stand and the visionaries who made them

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<v Speaker 2>fast enough and brave enough to change the world. In

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixties, Silicon Valley was not yet called Silicon Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>That nickname wouldn't come until the early nineteen seventies. But

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<v Speaker 2>among the Rolling Hills and Citrus Grove south of San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred revolutions had already started to bubble, the microchip,

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<v Speaker 2>the beginnings, the personal computer, the Internet. The Bay Area

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<v Speaker 2>was wide open to innovation and reinvention and anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>had a crazy idea about how to do things better.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the middle of that ferment was a commuter

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<v Speaker 2>school in downtown San Jose. San Jose State State was

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<v Speaker 2>where a coach named Bud Winter held court, and Bud

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<v Speaker 2>Winter is where this story begins. Bud was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most important coaches of the twentieth century. He invented

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<v Speaker 2>modern sprinting with an unconventional approach that has today become dogma.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever watched the way of the fastest man

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<v Speaker 2>in history, the Jamaican sprinter Ussain Bolt, glides down the track, You, Saint.

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<v Speaker 1>Bolt, look at the timeline by night, world record, unruffled,

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<v Speaker 1>calm composed.

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<v Speaker 2>You can credit Bud Winter for the way Bolt ran.

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<v Speaker 2>Bolt's coach was a Bud Winter disciple. Over his career,

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<v Speaker 2>Bud coached one hundred and two All Americans, thirty seven

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<v Speaker 2>world record holders, and twenty Olympians, including Tommy Smith and

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<v Speaker 2>John Carlos, the two sprinters who raised their gloved fists

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<v Speaker 2>in Mexico City. Bud's athletes so completely dominated sprinting the

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<v Speaker 2>people stopped calling the San Jose A team by its

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<v Speaker 2>formal nickname, the Spartans, and just called it Speeds City.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a scrapper. He grew up in a poor

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<v Speaker 4>neighborhood in San Francisco. Yeah, it was right by the zoo.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Kathy Winter, Bud's daughter. Bud Winter was born Lloyd C.

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<v Speaker 2>Winter in nineteen oh nine and grew up in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, his mom was a spitfire Irish woman, and his

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<v Speaker 4>father was a photographer and a very quiet introvert. And

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<v Speaker 4>he lived on the poor side, So I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>why he had such a compassion and a heart for

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<v Speaker 4>people that didn't have money.

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<v Speaker 2>Bud ended up at UC Berkeley. He studied psychology. After college,

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<v Speaker 2>Bud coached football at a high school and then a

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<v Speaker 2>junior college. He was a man of obsessions. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just golf. He invented a golf club that he swore

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<v Speaker 2>hit the ball further because he'd exposed it to radiation.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't just fish, He went fishing around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>He was unkempt, unassuming. He wore mismatched patterns. His clothes

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<v Speaker 2>were often wrinkled. When he traveled, he stuffed his suits

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<v Speaker 2>into a Duffel bag.

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<v Speaker 4>You always seem to have soup or something down his shirt,

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<v Speaker 4>but when you pointed it out, he'd go, you know

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<v Speaker 4>who cares. It just wasn't his priority.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen forty one, Bud took a job coaching track

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<v Speaker 2>and freshman football at San Jose State.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say my dad was somewhat absent, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't say that with negativity in my heart or anything,

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<v Speaker 4>but his whole life was about track and field and

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<v Speaker 4>the guys. We'd be sitting there at the table at dinner,

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, my dad would get up

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<v Speaker 4>and he would go over to the side and he'd

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<v Speaker 4>start to practice like the shot put. Okay, now he

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<v Speaker 4>wants to tell him to turn his head this way.

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<v Speaker 4>And here we were in the middle of trying to

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<v Speaker 4>tell him a story about what we did at school.

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<v Speaker 2>As a coach. Bud was a teacher, not a screamer.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing that impressed me about Bud he never raised

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<v Speaker 5>his voice.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Ray Norton, one of Bud's athletes.

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<v Speaker 5>And never did I ever hear him use propenity. That's

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<v Speaker 5>pretty unusual for a coach, My high school coach. Is

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<v Speaker 5>all they did yo. They couldn't coach all that they

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<v Speaker 5>was used propetit.

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<v Speaker 2>Bud didn't look like a traditional coach. He didn't sound

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<v Speaker 2>like a traditional coach, and that was all part of

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<v Speaker 2>the charm. Norton remembers the first time he met Bud,

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<v Speaker 2>he was still in high school. He and some of

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<v Speaker 2>his friends who also ran went to a track meet

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<v Speaker 2>at the University of California, Berkeley, the annual showdown between

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten and the conference that would become the

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<v Speaker 2>Pac twelve.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, we snuck in the place and we're

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<v Speaker 5>sitting quietly hoping nobody noticed us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Norton and his friends all ran track for

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<v Speaker 2>their high school teams. A couple of them were pretty fast,

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<v Speaker 2>but none of them expected to be recruited by the

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<v Speaker 2>colleges at this meet. It's nineteen fifty five, not too

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<v Speaker 2>many of the big track schools. We're interested in black sprinters.

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<v Speaker 5>We watched the big boys, the collegian guys, and then

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<v Speaker 5>when they left, we kind of eased down on the

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<v Speaker 5>track and got into starting blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>They started to raise each other just for fun.

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<v Speaker 5>We were supposed to be there, obviously, and there were

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<v Speaker 5>several coaches in the stands watching. All of them left

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<v Speaker 5>except one that one was but Winter and but walked

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<v Speaker 5>from the bleachers and then we were in the starting

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<v Speaker 5>blocks and we said, oh god, we've been busted. They're

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<v Speaker 5>going to throw us out of here. And he walked

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<v Speaker 5>real slow, and then he stopped in front of me

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<v Speaker 5>and he said, do you know you could be the

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<v Speaker 5>world's fastest human? And I went k, I wasn't even

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<v Speaker 5>the fastest guy in the starting blocks where he was standing.

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<v Speaker 5>A couple of the high school kids could beat me.

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<v Speaker 5>And they're going, what this coach must be old something.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, Norton had no idea what Bud saw

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<v Speaker 2>on him. It wasn't until he went to San Jose

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<v Speaker 2>State that he understood that Bud had turned the science

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<v Speaker 2>of sprinting on its head.

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<v Speaker 5>I was six three sprinters are like five eight, five, nine,

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<v Speaker 5>five ten. What he saw is that I had a

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<v Speaker 5>natural relaxation mode. I did string what I ran and

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<v Speaker 5>the other kids did. He could teach me the relaxation mode,

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<v Speaker 5>and I could handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>The relaxation mode shorthand for the complex set of ideas

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<v Speaker 2>at the heart of Bud's philosophy. Coaches for generations had

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<v Speaker 2>stressed the visible application of effort intensity, the grimacing, tightly

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<v Speaker 2>coiled runner, huffing and snorting down the track like a

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<v Speaker 2>runaway plow horse work harder, push, push, push, But Bud's

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<v Speaker 2>thought was, what if that was entirely backward? What if

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<v Speaker 2>the sprinter should be gliding. Norton joined Bud's team in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifty six on a scholarship. He would become a star,

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<v Speaker 2>the first real star of the so called speed city

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<v Speaker 2>era at San Jose State. We'll be right back. Bud

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<v Speaker 2>Winter had his light bulb moment when he first arrived

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<v Speaker 2>at San Jose State. He sat in on a class

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<v Speaker 2>taught by Dorothy Hazeltine Yates. It was about the psychology

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<v Speaker 2>of fighter pilots, an enormously important subject. At the start

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<v Speaker 2>of World War Two. Pilots were suffering from nervous exhaustion,

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<v Speaker 2>burnout breakdowns. They were making fatal errors in combat because

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<v Speaker 2>of the enormous stress they were under. In the class,

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<v Speaker 2>Bud learned about a new approach to tackling the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>teaching the pilot's relaxation techniques. Bud watched as the techniques

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<v Speaker 2>were applied to boxers at San Jose State. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what Bud wrote in his nineteen eighty one book, Relax

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<v Speaker 2>and Win. The results proved not only gratifying in some cases,

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<v Speaker 2>they were amazing to us. Green inexperienced novices very soon

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<v Speaker 2>showed the cool, confident poise of champions. San Jose boxers

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<v Speaker 2>won every bout that season, some spectacularly. At the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the Second World War, Bud enlisted in the Navy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he got a chance to build on what he'd

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<v Speaker 2>learned with Yates's class at San Jose. He was put

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of a research study at a flight school

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<v Speaker 2>in California looking at relaxation training for cadets. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of what would be a radical transformation in

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<v Speaker 2>the way we think about preparing people for stressful jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>We called up doctor Belisa Vranich to get a little

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<v Speaker 2>one oh one on relaxation techniques.

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<v Speaker 6>So, any tense muscle you have on your body is

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<v Speaker 6>using oxygen, and you need other muscles to be sort

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<v Speaker 6>of prepped and alert and ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandich is a clinical psychologist who works with lots of

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<v Speaker 2>people in high stressed jobs, law enforcement, firefighters, navy seals, pilots.

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<v Speaker 6>So if your entire body is tense, you are going

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<v Speaker 6>to be using up calories and you're going to be

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<v Speaker 6>using up oxygen. For instance, chess masters burn a tremendous

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<v Speaker 6>amount of calories playing chess, and it's because your brain

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<v Speaker 6>uses so much oxygen. So if you are thinking intense

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<v Speaker 6>and if your body is tense, you're tapping into your

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<v Speaker 6>tank of energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine how quickly you might drain that tank of energy

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<v Speaker 2>in a dog fight, And if you return safely, how

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<v Speaker 2>would you manage to get some sleep so you could

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<v Speaker 2>fight again tomorrow. The solution is to learn how to relax,

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<v Speaker 2>to contain and control your stress.

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<v Speaker 6>Inhale two three four.

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<v Speaker 2>Breathing slowly and deliberately. This is called tactical breathing.

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<v Speaker 6>Inhale, stretch a little bit more, sigh on the exhale,

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<v Speaker 6>and you're ready to go. So your breathing controls your

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<v Speaker 6>heart rate, and your heart rate is your main indicator

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<v Speaker 6>of stress. So when you get stressed out, your heart

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<v Speaker 6>rate goes up, and once it goes past a certain point,

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<v Speaker 6>it affects your motor skills, your fine motor skills, your memory,

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<v Speaker 6>and your ability to perform. So, whether you are working

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<v Speaker 6>in a corporate setting or you're an athlete, you'd like

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<v Speaker 6>your heart rate to be at a place where you

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<v Speaker 6>are calm but alert.

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<v Speaker 2>At the Flight School, Winter study involved two hundred cadets.

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<v Speaker 2>For six weeks, they get tended classes, played sports, and

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<v Speaker 2>took psychological tests. The cadets were split into two groups.

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<v Speaker 2>One was the control group. The other group learned relaxation techniques.

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<v Speaker 2>Bud wrote about the outcome in his book. The relaxation

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<v Speaker 2>group made more significant and even spectacular progress. The greatest

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<v Speaker 2>improvement by the relaxation group was demonstrated in the courses

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<v Speaker 2>that involved the most pressure. When the war was over,

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<v Speaker 2>Bud went back to San Jose staid, and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>he realized if relaxation techniques could help pilots. Surely they

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<v Speaker 2>could also help sprinters. Doctor Belisa Vranich again.

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<v Speaker 6>If you are able to get yourself to breathe well

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<v Speaker 6>mechanically meaning dive framatically, and now you train those muscles

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<v Speaker 6>separate from your sport, it actually affects your times. It

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<v Speaker 6>delays fatigue.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem at the heart of a sprinter's task was pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't running a marathon where they had two hours

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<v Speaker 2>to settle in and adjust and make up for mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>and misjudgments. One hundred meters sprint is ten seconds, the

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred meters is twenty seconds. The runner must react

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<v Speaker 2>instantly to the gun, run a flawless race, extract every

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<v Speaker 2>ounce of speed from their bodies over an impossibly compressed timeframe.

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<v Speaker 2>The sprinter settling into the blocks before a race was

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<v Speaker 2>under an extraordinary, potentially debilitating amount of pressure, and the

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<v Speaker 2>body's untrained response to that pressure makes the runner slower,

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<v Speaker 2>not faster. Bud realized he needed to fix that problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That idea seems common sense to our ears today, but

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<v Speaker 2>he came from Bud.

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<v Speaker 6>He was really visionary and understanding how important relaxation was

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<v Speaker 6>to performance. Think about it in the forties fifties, or sixties.

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<v Speaker 6>What you were hearing was buck right, and maybe a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit later was no pain, no gain, was pull

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<v Speaker 6>yourself up by your bootstraps. So that he was saying,

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<v Speaker 6>relaxed to perform better was fantastic because it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Norton and other athletes on the track team remember

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<v Speaker 2>Bud and his phrases.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you explain to a sprinter running bull speed

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<v Speaker 5>to relax? Well, you teach them to relax by using

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<v Speaker 5>certain terminologies, mantras.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, they were designed to keep parts of your body relaxed.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ran for Bud, a couple of them were

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<v Speaker 2>burned into your brain.

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<v Speaker 7>Loose hands.

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<v Speaker 5>You never clinch your fists when you're running. Loose jaws,

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<v Speaker 5>but you don't have to open your mouth, but just relax.

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<v Speaker 2>To demonstrate the power of loose hands loose jaws, Bud

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<v Speaker 2>would have his athletes run it tight, straining with effort

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<v Speaker 2>and time them. Then he'd have them run relaxed, their

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<v Speaker 2>hands unclenched, their faces sagging with what Bud called fish lips.

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<v Speaker 2>The stopwatch didn't lie. I spoke with Tommy Smith, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the greatest of all Bud's athletes. Was it difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to master some of the things he was talking about.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was a lot of things that he put

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<v Speaker 8>into a process that we had to understand, and it

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<v Speaker 8>was very difficult at times for us to master the

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<v Speaker 8>usage of the muscles to their maximum without tensing up,

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<v Speaker 8>without overdoing it. The process of too much is not good,

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<v Speaker 8>too little is just as bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And just like the Navy cadets, Bud's athletes also had

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<v Speaker 2>to do visualization exercises. This is Ben Tucker, a distance runner.

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<v Speaker 7>Before each competition, Bud would always call us in on

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<v Speaker 7>the Friday night. This is the night before the event,

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<v Speaker 7>and then he would have us sit in a room,

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<v Speaker 7>turn the lights out, and then we would just sit

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<v Speaker 7>there and he would just talk us through. This is

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<v Speaker 7>the first lap. This is a second lap. And so

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<v Speaker 7>he had us not only strategizing, but he had us

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<v Speaker 7>seeing ourselves. This is the night before. A hypnosis, but

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<v Speaker 7>it's hypnotize on us, but it got into our heads,

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<v Speaker 7>got into our heads.

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<v Speaker 2>But also ran his athletes methodically through drills he'd created,

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<v Speaker 2>like the high knee exercise. The runner marches up and

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<v Speaker 2>down the track, driving one knee after the other high

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<v Speaker 2>into the air. In an exaggerated slow motion version of running.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a real basic of how sprinter's run.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Peter wayAnd And studies the biomechanics of sprinting at

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<v Speaker 2>the Locomotive Performance Laboratory at Southern Methodist University, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Directly connected to how forcefully the sprinters hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you watch a marathon or run, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>run that way. They have kind of a shuffling gait.

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<v Speaker 1>The sprinters punch the track with their limb, so the

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<v Speaker 1>high knee lift allows in the space to get the

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<v Speaker 1>high velocity and then the quick stop. It's like delivering

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<v Speaker 1>a punch to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>The more force the sprinter can deliver with that leg punch,

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<v Speaker 2>the faster they can get off the ground, which leads

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<v Speaker 2>to a longer, more efficient stride.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the difference in how fast they can run,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the force difference happens during that initial impact period.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's essential that they get the highknee lift and

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<v Speaker 1>that they execute the high velocity and quick stop. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the entire secret right there.

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<v Speaker 2>The innovations, the tinkering, the rethinking, the search for the

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<v Speaker 2>slightest edge never stopped.

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<v Speaker 9>I realized, I said, this is the first genius. I

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<v Speaker 9>remember because his mind was busy of how to make

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<v Speaker 9>us run faster.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Lee Evans, another Abud's greatest sprinters.

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<v Speaker 9>I remember he said, okay, everybody, give me your your shorts,

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<v Speaker 9>and he was punch holes in the back part of

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<v Speaker 9>him so the wind could throw through them better. And

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<v Speaker 9>he said, okay, okay, give me, everybody, give me the

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<v Speaker 9>spikes out of your shoes. We take our spikes on

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<v Speaker 9>get to him, and he would shape them like a

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<v Speaker 9>pyramid so that the real part would get more push off.

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<v Speaker 9>He was always thinking of waye to take off a

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<v Speaker 9>tenth or one hundredths of a second, and I never

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<v Speaker 9>had a coach to you'd be concerned about little minor

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<v Speaker 9>details like that.

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<v Speaker 2>At the heart of the Bud Winter Revolution is that

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<v Speaker 2>he saw his role as cultivating the talent of his athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>He took raw clay and molded it. That is not

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<v Speaker 2>how coaches saw their role in those years. The traditional

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<v Speaker 2>coach exploited talent. The distinction between cultivation and exploitation is crucial.

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<v Speaker 2>Coaches of that era were motivators, recruiters, tacticians. Coaches took

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<v Speaker 2>what they were given and put it to use. Bud

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the first modern coaches who understood that

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<v Speaker 2>a coach's job was to make you facture elite performance

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<v Speaker 2>systematically and methodically, not just shepherd it into existence. The

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<v Speaker 2>most successful of the coaches of the contemporary age, Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick and football, Phil Jackson and Pat Summit and basketball

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<v Speaker 2>are in many ways Bud's disciples. When a coach wins

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<v Speaker 2>again and again in different places and with different athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>it means they have crossed the line from exploitation to cultivation.

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<v Speaker 2>Bud was the profit of that movement. Bud held coaching

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<v Speaker 2>clinics NonStop. He wrote a how to manual, So You

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<v Speaker 2>Want to Be a Sprinter that became a must read

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<v Speaker 2>for coaches and athletes alike. In it, two cartoon sprinters

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<v Speaker 2>helped demonstrate the right way and the wrong way to

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<v Speaker 2>execute Bud's techniques. Their names were Jack Champ and Joe Chump.

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<v Speaker 2>Their coach is a Bud like figure named Igor Beaver.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it egor Beaver. He eventually made a fifteen minute

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<v Speaker 2>instructional film that he shot at San Jose State.

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<v Speaker 10>Coach Winter believes that the sprinter should undergo a special drill.

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<v Speaker 2>Members of Bud's team appeared in the film, which was

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<v Speaker 2>called sprinting with Bud Winter.

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<v Speaker 10>Bohm action is powerful, but it is also relaxed. The

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<v Speaker 10>run of things, of driving his elbows, the hands are loose.

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Norton was his first major recruit. In nineteen fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Norton tied the world record for the one hundred yard

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<v Speaker 2>dash with a time of nine point three seconds. The

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<v Speaker 2>only other Americans that held that record were from big

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<v Speaker 2>schools like USC and COL. That same year, Budd added

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<v Speaker 2>another star to his team. This one was shorter in

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<v Speaker 2>stock here, a more traditional looking sprinter. Bob Pointer was

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<v Speaker 2>a high school state champion from Pasadena who had his

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<v Speaker 2>heart set on USC. He went to junior college trying

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<v Speaker 2>to study his way onto the USC track team. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>Bud kept sending him letters.

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<v Speaker 11>That kind of thrilled me, you know, in fact that

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<v Speaker 11>somebody for you tented to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Eithers started to pay attention to San Jose State too.

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<v Speaker 11>It drew crowds from you know, the Bay area and

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<v Speaker 11>all around because Bud would promote the heck out of

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<v Speaker 11>attract meet and we got an invitation to go to

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<v Speaker 11>the pen relays. Well, I didn't even know where that

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<v Speaker 11>was because I'd never been back east in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>The Penn Relays in Philadelphia are the oldest track and

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<v Speaker 2>field event in the United States, a massive international carnival

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<v Speaker 2>of track and field.

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<v Speaker 11>So Ray and I went and we won all the

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<v Speaker 11>stuff back east, and people back there they hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 11>the sounds. They used to pronounce its San Josie and say,

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<v Speaker 11>those guys from San Jose, And they thought it was

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<v Speaker 11>a black college because we had gold uniforms and most

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<v Speaker 11>of the kids were African Americans. But what that did?

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<v Speaker 11>That put Soundly State on the map.

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<v Speaker 2>Bud was doing all of this with a minuscule budget

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<v Speaker 2>out of state college that when he arrived didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>have dormitories.

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<v Speaker 11>He loved beating Carol of Stafford and anybody who's big,

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<v Speaker 11>because he felt that like the poor people going out

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<v Speaker 11>against the rich people.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ray Norton, he was beating almost everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifty nine was my biggest year. At that time. I

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<v Speaker 5>held the world's record for the one hundred yards, two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and twenty yards around a curve, the hundred meters,

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<v Speaker 5>and the two hundred meters. I had all those records

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<v Speaker 5>at one time, and I also went undefeated another meters

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<v Speaker 5>period for two years. I beat them all, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>It was now nineteen sixty. Norton had been going strong

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<v Speaker 2>for almost two years. Everyone thought he would win big

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<v Speaker 2>at the Rome Olympics that year, but then just before

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<v Speaker 2>the games, he suffered a freak injury. A teammate, the

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<v Speaker 2>high jumper John Thomas, played a prank and threw a

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<v Speaker 2>snake at him.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a real stink. It was a little one,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was, you know, done. No, I don't do

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<v Speaker 5>things still though. I jumped out of that hurdle's position

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<v Speaker 5>and snapped my back low part of my back. It

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<v Speaker 5>roughs at the nerve. This is three weeks before the

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<v Speaker 5>Olympic Games. I had no feeling in my legs, couldn't walk.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't run in any tune up meets. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't run anymore until the Olympic Games, which I

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<v Speaker 5>had probably lost ninety percent of my conditioning. I couldn't sleep,

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't eat. I lost ten pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>But Norton didn't want to give up his chance at

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 5>I just decided that I still could win and nobody

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<v Speaker 5>can beat me, even though I couldn't walk. Three weeks before.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Norton made it to the finals of the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred meters and the two hundred meters at the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 2>but he finished dead last. Then he botched a baton

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<v Speaker 2>pass in a four by one hundred meter relay, leading

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<v Speaker 2>to a disqualification. The meltdown was astonishing. The US hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>like the men's hundred meters since nineteen twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know how I ran. To be honest with.

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<v Speaker 2>You, only a few people knew about his injury. One

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<v Speaker 2>of them was Bud. Norton says he begged his coach

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<v Speaker 2>not to reveal the truth.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in one room, Bud next door. My door's open,

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<v Speaker 5>so Buck to see me because I'm hurt, and he

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<v Speaker 5>knows it. Okay, So I say, Bud, I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm drafted. I'm gonna play football after the Olympics. He says,

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<v Speaker 5>I know. Champ he called me Jim and I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want him to know I'm hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Norton says Bud didn't want to lie.

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<v Speaker 5>I said, you're not. It's my nerves in my back

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<v Speaker 5>that's killing me. All you got to see is my nerves.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not gonna be telling a lie. Let's say I

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<v Speaker 5>said can you do that? But I don't want these

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<v Speaker 5>people to think they get damaged goods because I'm playing

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<v Speaker 5>football as soon as I get back out of the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>All Bud would say after Norton's loss was that ra

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<v Speaker 2>Orton was trying too hard and that's the worst thing

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<v Speaker 2>a runner can do, which was the truth as far

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<v Speaker 2>as Bud Winter was concerned. Speed City had been stopped

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<v Speaker 2>short in its first great international test.

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<v Speaker 12>The Olympic Games to me were at once a inspiring, exciting, interesting,

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<v Speaker 12>horrible experience.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Bud in nineteen sixty three giving the opening remarks

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<v Speaker 2>that a sports symposium hosted by San Jose Steai.

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<v Speaker 13>They were aspiring because once again they pointed out what

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<v Speaker 13>we must do in the United States if we're going

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<v Speaker 13>to maintain our sports supremacy. They were wonderful because it

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<v Speaker 13>pointed out that maybe on the field of sport is

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<v Speaker 13>the one common ground upon which the nations in the

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<v Speaker 13>world can get together. And now horrible because of what

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<v Speaker 13>happened to Ray and Norton and are losing the sprint supremacy.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that relaxation training, the visualization exercises, the loose hands,

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<v Speaker 2>loose jaws, high knees all undone a freak injury from

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<v Speaker 2>a prank gone wrong. Bud was devastated, but he and

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<v Speaker 2>his runners would get another chance in the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 13>Every Olympic Games has its heroes, both athletes and coaches,

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<v Speaker 13>and perhaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Only this time, Speed City would get swept up in

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<v Speaker 2>another bigger revolution across America. The nineteen sixties would bring riots, protests, violence,

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<v Speaker 2>political assassinations, and the organized marches of the Civil rights movement.

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<v Speaker 2>And here was a group of young black men who

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<v Speaker 2>had already been liberated from one orthodoxy, who had been

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<v Speaker 2>taught that calm and self possession and preparation could unleash

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary performance. The sprinters of speed City would become famous,

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<v Speaker 2>and a question would be asked of them that had

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<v Speaker 2>never really been asked of athletes before. What will you

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<v Speaker 2>make of your position? You will stand on a platform,

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<v Speaker 2>what will you do once you're there? In our next episode,

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<v Speaker 2>the athletes of speed City win, acclaim and break world records,

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<v Speaker 2>but off the track, they struggle to make ends meet.

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<v Speaker 2>After a discus thrower objects to the treatment of black

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<v Speaker 2>athletes on campus, he sparks a movement that will become

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most important moments of activism in sports history.

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<v Speaker 2>Legacy of Speed is hosted by Me Malcolm Gladwell. It's

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<v Speaker 2>executive produced by Tracksmith and presented by Puma. Our producers

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<v Speaker 2>are Joel Meyer and Emily Rostak. The show is edited

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<v Speaker 2>by Chrishibobita and Karen Shakerji, and our mix engineer is

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Gorski. Original music composed by Alexis Quadrato with trumpet

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<v Speaker 2>Pushkin EPs are Katherine Girdeau and miel Obel. Our development

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<v Speaker 2>team is Lee Talmulaude and Justin Lang. We had help

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<v Speaker 2>with research and archival material from eur La Hill, Kathy Winter,

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Ratcliffe, John Stalkup, Brett Lyman, and Carly Lowe. Special

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